1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,040 I don't remember what I was doing in 2005. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,800 I don't remember what I was doing in 2004. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,880 Honestly, I don't remember that that far back and good therapy. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,760 Yeah, welcome. To the my memories are being 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,480 blocked, so I have blocked memories that I need to unlock 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:01:01,600 this. Yo, what's up? 7 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:08,520 And welcome to episode 58 of the 30% Podcast. 8 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,400 I go by the name AFAM and I am joined by my amazing Co host 9 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Sam. And. 10 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:24,720 This is the first episode of the 2020 Witch. 11 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Fire. We made it afam I. 12 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,040 Want to start? We. 13 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Made it. By saying this amazing joke, 14 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:38,120 Sam, what did #48 and 49 say to #50 after it had the mirror? 15 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,960 Well, sorry, say that again, what is number? 16 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:45,760 What after what? What did #48 and 49 say to #50 17 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,080 after it had a mirror? They were all set seated at the 18 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,800 table. What did #48 say to #49? 19 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,080 You know what's annoying? As I know this joke, but I've 20 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,760 forgotten about it. I've forgotten the answer. 21 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:04,560 It said. I don't know, I don't know, I 22 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,880 don't know what. What? 23 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,440 What did #48 say to #40? Came up with. 24 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Oh, all right. So then, OK. 25 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,680 Go ahead. I came up with it on the spot. 26 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Oh gosh, I feel like told Joe. OK, I thought. 27 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,760 I felt this. I'm just gonna say they said 58 28 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,080 episode 58. Anyway, guys listen on that 29 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,240 sombre. Some would say no. 30 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,160 You guys can listen to this podcast on YouTube. 31 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Yes, we're still on YouTube in the new year. 32 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,280 You can listen to us on Spotify, you can listen to us on Apple 33 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Podcast, and you can also find us on Google Podcast as well as 34 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:46,000 Anchor Podcast. You can also find us on all the 35 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 social media platforms that you guys love to frequent such as 36 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,920 TikTok, such as Instagram, such as threads such as X. 37 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,440 And if you are business minded, yeah yeah, you can also find us 38 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,880 being business, business majorical on LinkedIn. 39 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,640 Yes, I created a word called. Business Majorical. 40 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,120 Yeah, yeah. I feel like the first year I 41 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,960 find a name for a newspaper or an article. 42 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,040 The. If I'm his cooking this new 43 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,320 year, his cooking. The first, the, the, the, the, 44 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,840 the last thing that I've almost forgot. 45 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,200 You can also find us in real life IRL. 46 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,480 IRL, IRL. Yeah, we live IRL. 47 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,960 That's where we mostly reside. That's what I must do. 48 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,360 Happy New Year, man. How are you? 49 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Happy New year man. Happy new Year. 50 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Happy new Year. I'm fine man. 51 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,680 I've I've, I'm I'm easing easing slowly into into the year like 52 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,440 it's been so slow. I usually. 53 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Yeah. My, my default is like, I'm 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,080 almost always on, like go mode. But this year I've been like, 55 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,920 OK, like let me, I'm. I'm just not We're going to 56 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,160 relax on purpose. Like, it's so weird. 57 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,840 I don't know why I'm doing this at the beginning of the year, 58 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,520 but weirdly enough I've been very productive which is making 59 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,080 me rethink, rethink my whole strategy for the rest of my 60 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,600 life. So yeah, that's, I mean I have 61 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,600 goals bro. I have goals just like you do. 62 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,960 I have goals and and we have to achieve them so. 63 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Factoids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 64 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,560 So that's like factoids, only nice. 65 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,000 I'm happy to hear. I'm happy to hear. 66 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,360 That you've heard from that to, yeah. 67 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Yeah. I'm happy to hear you've had the 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,400 productive year so far. Literally productive. 69 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,520 It's been production. It's been produced. 70 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Yeah, same. Literally the same. 71 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,120 I've just been. I've just been making a lot of. 72 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Music man, how are you? You sound. 73 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,680 You sound, you sound a little bit under under the weather. 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,440 It sound a little bit sick. Yeah. 75 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,280 A little bit. For all those listening you can 76 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:45,040 hear, my voice is. Not the greatest sinus, It's 77 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,960 just a lot of sinus coming from your mic. 78 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,160 Yeah, I've been unwell since the year began. 79 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Yikes. Just have like a little flu here 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,520 and there, a flu here and there. That doesn't make sense. 81 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Anyway. Yes, I have a flu, so it's but 82 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 I'm in the recovery stages. I'm in the for me how my flu 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,240 progresses. I have a scratchy throat and 84 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,480 then the next days I'll just be under the weather with the usual 85 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,720 symptoms, just the fatigue, malaise, the, the clogged nose, 86 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,480 ETC. Then when it's starting to tail 87 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,880 off I develop a cough. That's the always the last. 88 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,880 The Remnant. Colleagues, me? 89 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Yeah, is is me having a cough? Yeah. 90 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,200 So right now I'm in the cough stage and it sucks. 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,960 You know, I feel because I've I've been in the cough stage. 92 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,920 I had a flu maybe second week of December and I'm still in the 93 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,760 cough stage. My worst, my worst, my worst, my 94 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,800 worst stage of of that flu is the scratchy throat. 95 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,280 I hate it having a sore throat. It's the worst. 96 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,360 It's like when you're when when I get it, I'm like I now I I 97 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,920 wish I would just be well like it's just. 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,160 Yeah. It's so irritating and there's 99 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,200 not much you can do about it. Exactly what you mean. 100 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,280 Yeah, yeah, you're powerless. Because at that point, you know 101 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:03,880 the wheels are already in the ocean. 102 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,200 You're getting sick. But, Sam, what did you get up to 103 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,320 for New Year's, man? How did you usher in 2024? 104 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,440 The New Year's I didn't. I didn't I I I thought I was 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,680 just going to be at home chilling but a couple of people 106 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:23,040 invited me out so we went out. It was I mean it was it was 107 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,480 interesting it was a was a club like setting. 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,200 I bro I really don't understand what people go to do. 109 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,120 Like it's it's this noise you can't you can't hear each other 110 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,360 you're just literally going there to dance and consume 111 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,520 beverages. I just that's that's the point 112 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,320 like yelling at each other trying to say things that would 113 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,120 be easier said farther away from the speaker. 114 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,160 It was interesting just going out and and seeing you know 115 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:53,400 people were outside, people were being mixy, being social. 116 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,280 That was cool. It was cool. 117 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:57,560 It was it was a good night for me that the importance was being 118 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,040 with the people I was and just chilling. 119 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,680 It's not necessarily the the environment and going out and 120 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,080 you know I don't, I don't usually do that. 121 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,120 So, so that was that was cool the did you? 122 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,640 See any fireworks? Did I see there were fireworks? 123 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,920 But I didn't like rush because people were rushing out to see 124 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,760 them. I don't know, man. 125 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,440 I don't know. Fireworks don't really excite 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,080 me. So I sound like such a It was 127 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,120 cool and people seem to like them so and it was very loud and 128 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,400 noisy. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 129 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,480 I'm sorry. I'm being that guy. 130 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,120 My bad. Do you need next time to find 131 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,160 out the things? That Sam really doesn't care 132 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,280 about. Yeah. 133 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,040 How was that? Was yours? 134 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Is that how? For me it was it was cool. 135 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,960 I I linked up with a bunch of my friends. 136 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,680 The new year is a good time to be social. 137 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,520 It is. It is, yeah. 138 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:51,000 We went to, we went to the mall. Yeah, the mall, the rooftop they 139 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,520 have, they had like an event. I think it was called when the 140 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,320 clock strikes, and yeah, it was. Very under nose. 141 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,720 It was very under nose. Yeah, it was decent. 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,680 It was a decent experience. I was just happy to be with my 143 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,280 friends, just like you. At least it was open because 144 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,520 like you know, I prefer like the open like an OK I don't, I don't 145 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,960 like. The yeah, that was the 146 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 difference I think yeah mine mine was like those those those 147 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,440 are roofs over 8 and it was that was maybe that took away from 148 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,240 the experience anyway. Maybe, yeah. 149 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,880 So. So yeah, it was dope. 150 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,160 Jumped the year. I ended up getting home like at 151 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:35,520 7:30 AM, And yeah, man, I probably got my cold from that 152 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,159 night. Made some bad decisions. 153 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Yeah, not bad decisions, but like just being outside in the 154 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,400 cold. Whatever you did, I mean, if you 155 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,160 got a cold from that, there's there's definitely a bad, a bad 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,120 decision that was made there. Whether you made it on purpose 157 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,680 or not, there was a bad decision that was made. 158 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,680 I wouldn't say it's a bad. Oh my bad. 159 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:56,800 It's life you in in life, you experience things and then 160 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,080 things happen, right? It's cause and effect. 161 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,680 Cause. Anyway, so yeah, so that's what 162 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,880 I did. And yeah man, I guess the year 163 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,720 really starts for real, like this week, which is cool. 164 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,360 So bro this and. Everybody's getting back on 165 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:12,960 that. Right. 166 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, man. Life continues Christmas 167 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,320 decorations. Come down. 2024 MAN 2004 was 20 168 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,760 years ago. Sam, we're old. 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,040 That is true. That is true. 170 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,880 Where were you in 2004? What are you up to? 171 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,640 I was a little. A wee little lad. 172 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:39,440 Young lad in class 4. You're a youngin, as they say I 173 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:42,200 was in. Class 4 Papal and my teacher was 174 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,600 called Mrs. Corros. I remember her shout. 175 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,480 Out shout out to her, man. Wherever you are, I hope you're 176 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,480 doing well, man, bro. Shout out to this is. 177 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,280 You're part of the story. The story, of course, of the 178 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,280 boy. Listen when. 179 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,600 I'll be. Recounting. 180 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,000 You know how? Like people recount, like the 181 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,880 people who are really in inspirational and influential 182 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,880 into their life stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 183 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,400 She's there. She's part of it. 184 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,200 I don't remember what I was doing in 2005. 185 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,960 I don't remember what I was doing in 2004. 186 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,080 Honestly, I don't remember that that far back and good therapy. 187 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,840 Sam, yeah, welcome to. The my my memories are being 188 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 blocked. So I have blocked memories that 189 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,360 I need to unlock the state trade for. 190 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Maybe that's my New Year's resolution. 191 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Listen, what's your New Years? What? 192 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,240 What? What are you? 193 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,200 What are you? I am glad you asked that, Sam. 194 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,520 Thank you. So last year one of my New 195 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,160 Year's resolutions, I remember we had them on the podcast was 196 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,080 to go out more be just go out for more events and stuff. 197 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,840 I think. I think I did that like to some 198 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,160 extent, but I think I want to carry that on to this year. 199 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,120 I want to be more outside as well. 200 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,200 You want to make it a normal thing. 201 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,200 Yeah, I really struggle to, like, go for events and be like 202 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,840 entirely the social, social butterfly that is probably just 203 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,360 waiting to come out inside of me, you know? 204 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,560 I mean, I feel like I have a social butterfly that I've 205 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:17,680 suppressed all. These years So Coon Yeah, you're 206 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,120 a what's what's the stage before butterfly. 207 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,680 You're a. Chrysalis no whatever it's 208 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:23,520 called. That sounds cool. 209 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,560 I'm talking about like the warm. Isn't that like a warm? 210 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:28,520 Wow, some you don't want me to sound cool. 211 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,080 No. Listen guys, this is your 212 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,520 friends Will. Tell you the truth, my friends 213 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,760 will be rude with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 214 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Sorry. Go ahead. 215 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:38,600 But anyway, yeah, so I want to. I want to do more going on, but 216 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,280 I have another New Year's resolution, which I want to 217 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,400 stick to. Let's hear it. 218 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:51,000 I want to attempt to listen to an album or an EP, essentially a 219 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:58,120 project every day of the year. I so this I got this idea every. 220 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,120 Day. Every day. 221 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,600 Every day. Yeah, every single day. 222 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,320 So I got this idea from Hafare because he posted so Hafare as 223 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,720 you guys know, Breaking Hearts podcast. 224 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,240 So he posted on his social media, like all the albums he 225 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,560 listened to. And I was like, bro, they were 226 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:16,800 like in the hundreds or some something like that. 227 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 And I was like, this is insane. I was like, how do you listen to 228 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,720 all that music? And yeah, I want to push myself 229 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,520 to listen to more music. One thing about me is, contrary 230 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,200 to popular belief, me being a music producer and music. 231 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Thing in my life you're not, really. 232 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,800 I don't listen much, Music did. Spotify give you as. 233 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,200 Much music, as you would think, did. 234 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,840 Spotify give you the adventurous. 235 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,040 What did they what did they give you? 236 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,040 I can't remember what what they gave me, but like it's 237 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,760 definitely not adventurous. Well, maybe because of the 238 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,000 TikTok series it would see as though I'm. 239 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,280 Adventurous. I mean, you were in general. 240 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,560 General. You did a lot. 241 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:56,760 Of But in general, I don't consume as much money as I the 242 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:03,480 money as much music as I should. Don't we? 243 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Yeah. So. 244 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,160 So I've started and the two projects I've listened to are I 245 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,200 listened to. I finally listened to the Red 246 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:18,440 Moon in Venus project by Kali Uchis which by the way is so 247 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,680 beautifully arranged and. Curated. 248 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,880 It's curated so well. Shout out to all the producers 249 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,440 who are part of that Sam and I were bopping to. 250 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,600 No, there's some. There's some. 251 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:30,880 I mean you. Can. 252 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Don't, Oliver. Yeah, it's You can tell when the 253 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,120 music is well done. Yeah, you can tell when music is 254 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,160 well done, well produced. It's written well. 255 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,840 It just sticks in your mind and fam. 256 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,360 There's some good joints on there, some really good joints. 257 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,720 But obviously my favorite song is like, and I think think this 258 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,120 is everybody's favorite songs, Just Moonlight. 259 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,160 That's an amazing song, especially when she starts 260 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,080 talking about when she starts, like, one thing I love about 261 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Kali, which is, is how she just seamlessly switches from 262 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,560 speaking in Spanish and then just, yeah. 263 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,960 And then in like, it's just so seamless. 264 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,320 So I've never looked. Yeah, definitely up. 265 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,480 You put you put her on to me. I've not really listened. 266 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,280 I've heard her name everywhere, but I've not really listened to 267 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,600 her music. I might need to do a little bit 268 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,120 of a dive. So yeah, I've listened to. 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,800 I listened to that because I only started this resolution two 270 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,840 days ago. Yeah, I listened to that. 271 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,000 And then I listened to, I finally got around to listening 272 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,720 to The Submissive Project by Dustin Conrad. 273 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,360 I haven't figured out how I'm going to like decide what I 274 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,240 listen to. So I just, it's just like, 275 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,440 especially it's I'm going to go by things I've been putting off 276 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,400 because like those two projects I put off, I was like, I'm going 277 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,400 to listen to this. But then I never found time to 278 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,600 and and and the reason why I'm doing this is I want to panned 279 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,120 my palate. I feel like I'm very one track 280 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,280 minded. I feel like I'm very limited in 281 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,760 my influence. I like what I like and I stick 282 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,720 to that. I want to change that. 283 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,600 So that's my New Year's resolution. 284 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,240 How about yours, Sam? Now that's dope. 285 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,720 That's dope. Yeah, I my mine would be. 286 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,600 I want to work with more artists. 287 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,160 I feel like this 2023 I did a lot of more commercial type 288 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,080 things and like and like what do you call them? 289 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,960 You're getting to the back. Ads and and yeah but now I I 290 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,400 want to get back into into like like and I want to make it a 291 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,840 point to work in studio with artists and that's like I want 292 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,000 to link up with everyone because I I I'm very versatile in terms 293 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,400 of production like I do everything so I would like to 294 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,880 get a whole bunch of artists and about and I'd like to discover 295 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,400 like you know like when you find that one artist that you you 296 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,800 lock in with and it's like yeah yeah yeah. 297 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,800 So I'm I'm currently on in the search doing doing our send, 298 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,880 send your CVS to send your CVS to. 299 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Let me tell you bro, it's a, it's a. 300 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,480 It's a tedious process finding an artist to deal with because 301 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,240 you're building from when they're raw. 302 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,160 Very, yeah. But I enjoy that though. 303 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,760 I enjoy it. I enjoy like, like, like helping 304 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,560 figure out. All right, no, don't do this. 305 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,240 This up to them. For the listeners who can't see 306 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 us, some just did a jig of excitement. 307 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,080 I did a jig of excitement. That's a good way to put it. 308 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,720 But yeah, no, I really want to lock in with artists. 309 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,840 Like very new artists, very niche artists. 310 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,080 And then also like I want to build my resume with with a, 311 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,600 with a, with a big, big players. So it's going to take a lot of 312 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,840 work. It's going to take a lot of 313 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,480 because I have to get out of my shell. 314 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,960 I think that's been my issues. I've just been in my shell a lot 315 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,760 in terms of reaching out to people. 316 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,120 So I have to like actively get out of that and reach out to 317 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,960 every single person whether whether, whether you're dubbed 318 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,880 or not out. I'm not saying like that whether 319 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,160 it's reciprocated or not, I don't think that's the major 320 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,400 issue. I think it's reaching out that's 321 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,360 that's that's going to do. So yeah, man. 322 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,000 Listen, if you do listen to this podcast and you make music, you 323 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:06,560 might get reached out to buy me from me, Buy me, buy me sounds 324 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,920 better. So yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 325 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,640 that's part of my goal. I really just, I want to. 326 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,800 I want to make more music, man. Like I want to have more music 327 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,480 out. So. 328 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,960 Here's, here's to that, bro. I really do hope. 329 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,720 I really hope that's successful for you and you get to work. 330 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,480 Yeah. Be a producing artist. 331 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:24,280 Be a producer. Possible. 332 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Yeah, be a producer. Speaking of being a producer, 333 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaking of this past week, yeah, my, my, my year also 334 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,320 started a little bit with a bang because, you know, the whole 335 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,880 Cocoa Butter song has been blowing up. 336 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:43,920 For my butter, yeah. Yeah, that one. 337 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:52,600 Anyway, So, so yeah, we scheduled a shoot, the video and 338 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,320 everything. And that was exciting, was 339 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,400 exciting. You do producer. 340 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Did you do the you know the producer cameo? 341 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,520 The guys when they show when your tag hits and then you're 342 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,440 rubbing your hands. It's in slow MO licking, 343 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,760 fortunately and fortunately. I did. 344 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,480 Oh you did a cameo. Oh yes. 345 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,240 I'm. Gonna be to see you looking 346 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,160 like. Capacity. 347 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,080 I hope it's not. Connie. 348 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Connie, I'm going to. I'm going. 349 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,280 To Sam. I don't know if I'll be able to 350 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,600 watch that video. Sam, I don't know if I'll be 351 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,120 able to watch. No, don't worry, I'll watch it 352 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,480 for. You and you'll replace the part 353 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,800 where Oh no, look. Look, that specific part where 354 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,760 FM is going, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's me. 355 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Yeah. So I'm gonna be, I'm, they're 356 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,400 gonna include me in the end where my tag goes. 357 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,720 So, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be cringey for sure. 358 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,000 And I'm going to. Change very much. 359 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,040 And I'm so sorry to cringe in advance a bit. 360 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Of cringe is good. A bit of cringe, but anyway. 361 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,760 So the reason why I bring it up is because so that song really 362 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,240 plays on the past, you know, it's a, it's a song that sounds 363 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,600 like you know, the kapuka of days gone past and everything. 364 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,040 And and I feel like in to some extent that's why a lot of 365 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,920 people have resonated with it. Right. 366 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,240 And Sam, we had this conversation before the podcast. 367 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,800 We were trying to talk about like the things that we think 368 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,520 are going to be very influential in the music industry or are 369 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,320 going to be really big points of conversation in the music 370 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,160 industry over the years. We wanted to project that. 371 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,760 And for me, I want to say urban Tone is is the thing, at least 372 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,080 for the next two quarters. That's what's going to be like 373 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:41,240 the thing that's really booming in the music industry and yeah, 374 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,680 I don't know what, what do you, what do you. 375 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,040 I mean, it's it's interesting. What? 376 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Do you think it's it's interesting, It's it's like 377 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Genghatton took a break and then it decided it went and hit it. 378 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,760 What what? What do people say when they're 379 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,360 when? Like after, after. 380 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,280 Yeah, after you. Just took a hiatus, no? 381 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,240 No, no. Yeah. 382 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,040 Well, yeah. After after relationship, what 383 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,840 do people do to to? Get themselves back. 384 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Like the guys go to the gym and start working on on themselves. 385 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,280 So Gangiton. Gangiton did that. 386 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:11,040 It's it's Gangiton broke up with the music industry for a while 387 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,400 and then it started and then now it's coming back as urban tone 388 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,880 cut hair. It's a little bit more you know. 389 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,240 Anyways it would be interesting. That's a silly analogy. 390 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,240 It's. A little bit more familiar. 391 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,240 Yeah. It'll be interesting to see that 392 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,680 I I'm, I'm, I mean I'm looking forward to I'm I'm always for. 393 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:37,880 For the older Kenyan music to make a resurgence or like new 394 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,680 life, you know, new life for for stuff that we have been and 395 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,320 we'll see that a lot. Like a lot of at least towards 396 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,640 the end of last year, we saw a lot of of the Uberton songs, 397 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,760 like sample older Kenyan music, older Kenyan songs, older Kenyan 398 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,040 acts. So that's cool. 399 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,800 I I like to see that. I do predict that that might 400 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,440 raise a few issues, but I feel like those would be good issues 401 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,760 to solve because that will help us forge new ways of going about 402 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,560 the business. But that's the business side. 403 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,720 We'll get to that. We'll get to that. 404 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 The music should be exciting. Yeah. 405 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,600 We've seen how people have ripped off just basically cause. 406 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,480 Some issues, yeah. But. 407 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,680 The music is great. The music is, yeah, it's it's 408 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,320 without a doubt it definitely it's. 409 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,760 It's cool because it's playing on, like I said, it's playing on 410 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,200 nostalgia, but then it's giving it. 411 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,240 It's like a new it's it's it's yeah, it's like current. 412 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,840 It's making it more current, which is Which is cool, which is 413 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,040 cool. It'll be interesting to see how 414 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:44,680 the old school acts. Get on new school with old 415 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 school nostalgia. That'll be an interesting 416 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,600 marriage. I would do. 417 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,720 You think that? Do you think the old school acts 418 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,480 will have a role to play outside of their music being used? 419 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,880 I don't. Think like how how did, how did 420 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,400 they respond to Gangiton because I think it will be along that 421 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,760 lane. No, Gangiton, I'm sure they 422 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,640 embraced, they were like, yeah, we were the funnel. 423 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,880 But you see this is different because this is like, OK, we're 424 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,760 actually using samples from your. 425 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,640 I don't know. Did they really embrace it? 426 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,600 I don't think it was embraced as much. 427 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,920 Some did. It wasn't like it was like a 428 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,040 white. DNA, DNA and all those guys, 429 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,320 but. For them it's pretty similar 430 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,320 because for them it's similar because it's it's the sound is 431 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,600 sort of what they're used to, you know, like it's Genghis Tone 432 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,920 as it's still based off Kapuk and all that business. 433 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:35,960 So it'll be interesting to see if the newer and I guess there's 434 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,520 a divide between now and just the Urban Tone School and just 435 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,440 the rest of the industry, just to see how the rest of the 436 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,560 industry treated, especially since this is like, it almost 437 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,720 feels like it's a resurgence. Like, all right, we're trying 438 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,280 again, sort of so interesting to see if they treated differently 439 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,320 than they treated the Ganga tone. 440 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,280 That is, actually, that's a really good observation. 441 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,320 I feel like this new resurgence of of Ganga tone as urban tone 442 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:07,760 is more playful. Yeah, it's less not. 443 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,160 It's not graphic. What's the word? 444 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,160 Provocative. It's more like it's more it's 445 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:19,160 it's more fun and more playful and it's less like it's like 446 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,840 TikTok challenges and this and that. 447 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,520 So it's more like. And that might work. 448 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,440 Yeah, that might work well for it. 449 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,320 That might also be its detriment, again because TikTok 450 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,720 plays a big part, especially with the younger ones doing it. 451 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,120 Little minor, all the all the kids like TikTok plays a huge 452 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:44,160 part in in in it. So as as as well as we are, as 453 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,920 well as the older acts and the older audience is able to adapt 454 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:54,120 to the TikTok vibe that might indicate partly how we how well 455 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:57,080 we're able to receive the music so. 456 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,960 So some of the names, some of the names I'm seeing that are 457 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,200 really big in this Abanton space. 458 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Urban tone. I don't know why, maybe I'm old, 459 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,920 but like these names are so interesting. 460 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,960 Like why BW Smith? That's what they said when when 461 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,280 all the yeah, that's I mean Tipsy G Hip Hop had that that. 462 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:18,440 Era Scooby. Yeah, it sounds like. 463 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,080 It's like, where did these guys come up? 464 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,080 Sean? MMG. 465 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,520 Like I don't know where they came up with their names, but 466 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,800 there is hip. Hop had that area where I mean 467 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,120 that that that era where where names started being like, but 468 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,240 honestly if you look at their names it's interesting just 469 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320 watching how names have changed over time. 470 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Like that's a cool little study you could do like hip Hop went 471 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,240 from all the MCMC this MCMC, then it evolved and then became 472 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,680 the Leos then after that it. Now they had their their run 473 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,880 Scooby error which is interesting. 474 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,360 So and now I don't know what they're doing now. 475 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:56,080 Actually, but yeah, we've gone through some some interesting 476 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:57,040 so. OK. 477 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,040 So, Sam. Yeah, The question is why is 478 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:06,040 Abantone really gaining traction within the hearts, within the 479 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,040 young hearts of the kids? Because honestly, I feel like 480 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,040 the the biggest demographic that's really consuming this 481 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:22,120 music is the younger generation. Like, why are they so drawn to 482 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,440 this new genre that's not really new? 483 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,920 I think it's really. Playing on the nostalgia from 484 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,160 back in the. Day it's just off the top. 485 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,800 I know there's many reasons off the top of my head. 486 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,760 I feel like it's it's music it's it's a good time right? 487 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,800 So that's obviously it's a good time but it's also theirs. 488 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Like it's it's been done by people around that same age 489 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,360 group with that same mindset mentality and everything. 490 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:54,480 So it's it's it's resonates more than I mean we listened to the 491 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720 older old school and it's also a good time obviously because 492 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,440 that's what they keep playing. But it's a different sort of 493 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,640 mind that was that was a different type of mind created 494 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,000 that. So now this is like it's party 495 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,760 music and it's their party music so that that that makes it more 496 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,960 palatable. There's there's aspects of 497 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,680 nostalgia where you're taking a bit of what they enjoy with 498 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,040 other music and then and it just it feels, it feels. 499 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,800 I feel like the younger generation have a lot of FOMO, 500 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,320 like they really wish, like especially the kids who are now 501 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,040 like starting to go out to parties, starting to club and 502 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,880 everything. Like they're like, damn, like I 503 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,720 wish I was outside in the day when like, you know, all the 504 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,800 like classics were like popping off. 505 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,080 And it's not just Kenyan music, because a lot of them are also 506 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,560 sound. Like all the dance hall, the 507 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,760 dance hall joints of of, of. Stuff and everything. 508 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,120 So I feel like, I feel like a lot of these kids will really, 509 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:02,920 really want to find a way to resonate with what was back in 510 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,960 the day. Like the music that was 511 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,840 consumed. Right? 512 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,280 And I feel like it's genius. Like it's like, wow, like, OK, 513 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,880 how can we bring elements of things that worked? 514 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,360 They already worked because they're taking elements from 515 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:19,320 songs that were already hit songs and then kind of re 516 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,920 imagining it into something that would be. 517 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,360 And inserting. Yeah, inserting today's culture 518 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,960 into it. Exactly, exactly. 519 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,680 And bro, it's, I think it's so huge, man. 520 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,920 Like you look at some of these urban tone songs that are coming 521 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,280 out and you look at the times, the timelines. 522 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,920 Like Sean MMG released a song Now could die a month ago and 523 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,000 it's already on 1.2 million views on YouTube ran Scooby 524 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,400 released Tic Tac like 3 months or so ago. 525 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,160 It's I think it's about to get to 1,000,000 views. 526 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,600 There's attention on YouTube as well. 527 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,920 There's attention on. Yeah, but there's there's 528 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,000 definitely a buzz. Sound Craft. 529 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Sound Craft released that. What is it called? 530 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,280 Tik Toka featuring Godi Tenor and Tipsy G and Carpi. 531 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,240 That song came out two months ago. 532 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,720 It's already on 3.7 million views on YouTube. 533 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,480 So obviously there is an energy that's just very tangible right 534 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,720 now with Abantone and especially these new kids. 535 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,680 Like they have the streets like Unlock. 536 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,760 It's definitely it's it's. I love to see where it is. 537 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,400 I do hope that now The thing is, I do hope that they learn from, 538 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440 because again, the music industry is a music industry and 539 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,840 the music business is a music business, right? 540 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,800 So I do hope they learn from the mistakes that I won't say 541 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Gengeton made. Well, they're already making one 542 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,680 big mistake, which is sampling things with that. 543 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560 I don't know if people are clearing things, so that's a 544 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,520 mistake, but like. Yeah, Because back then, yeah. 545 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,560 It's it's going well. It's it's going to be 546 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760 problematic. It is so some of these kids are 547 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,480 going to need to I just you need to be smart. 548 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,440 I don't. I I honestly don't feel. 549 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,480 I don't feel like our industry is going to get keep samples. 550 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,760 I don't think there's artists are going to be like no don't 551 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,560 choose my song. But maybe there might, there 552 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,040 might be some Divas. Around advise these kids what 553 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,840 I'd advise these kids is So what you do is because the sampling 554 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,520 of the music is is undeniably dope right. 555 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,480 As a producer, you know like even me I'm looking at this 556 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,080 urban to movement and I'm like I want a piece of that but like So 557 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,560 what I would advise them is although as a producer this is 558 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,320 also a double edged swords. But if we just talk about it as 559 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,680 an artist, yeah do it. But maybe when it comes to like 560 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,240 monetizing like in terms of YouTube and streaming, you know 561 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,640 you you're going to have to have that conversation with the guys 562 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640 who you're sampling and they'll want a large percentage of the 563 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,080 pie. Then. 564 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,160 That's great. The only place you can really 565 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,680 capitalize is performance, but even then that might be. 566 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,760 It's going to be tricky. Yeah. 567 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,960 It's going to be problematic because I know. 568 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,800 I because I know there are cases where like, even artists like, 569 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,000 have stopped performing songs that they sampled because that 570 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,760 would also lead to, well, you're performing songs that were, I 571 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,280 don't know, it's hot, it's it's weird. 572 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,760 It's also, I think it's also going this, this period is also 573 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,120 going to show us how many of the older acts have their business 574 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,280 right? Because I mean, you could, you 575 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,880 could go crazy and all these kids or something myself. 576 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,520 And then you realize that, oh snap, I don't have no rights. 577 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,360 I don't need to be talking about it. 578 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,520 I don't know. I just want to ask like, 579 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,600 especially like now the the songs that are sampled from old 580 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Kenyan classics. I want to ask the artist to just 581 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,640 be just be a little bit open to WhatsApp. 582 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 583 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,600 If you if you have to reach out to these kids like strike at 584 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,920 like deals where you'll be like, OK, fine, let's revenue share 585 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920 and let's split whatever, like let's be open to. 586 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,520 To what's happening and the kids. 587 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,200 Because at the end of the day, it's progressing. 588 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,360 It is the kids. The kids are going to. 589 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,600 Shining a light to your music. You know, yeah, the and the kids 590 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,240 are going to have to be OK with what they're given. 591 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,960 Especially since you're taking, you're taking, you have to like 592 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,120 like unless you want to create from scratch. 593 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240 But the whole Ubuntu movement, there's the big, a big element 594 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080 of it is, is is you know, borrowing. 595 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,880 So listen, the sampling game is a sampling game. 596 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,920 If you know what what people who sample have to give up in terms 597 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,080 of of rights, then it's that's just the music business and how 598 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,800 it works. So you're going to have to just 599 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,280 be smart about it. And this would be a good time to 600 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320 learn about that aspect of the business, You know, like the 601 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,840 aspect of when you take from someone else. 602 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,240 Because we don't do that here. Here. 603 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,840 You just, you take it and you hope that no one, no one 604 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,440 stumbles onto the song and you're living your life looking 605 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,160 over your shoulder like that for the rest of your life. 606 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800 Like, that's craziness, but it's the producers curse. 607 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,440 I guess So, yeah. I mean, it's just a good 608 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,560 opportunity to learn about that aspect, get lawyers, figure, 609 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,280 like figure it out. We shouldn't be an industry that 610 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,880 does the bare minimum and is OK with it. 611 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,480 Like, let's figure all this stuff out and figure out how how 612 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,280 that can work for us. Yeah. 613 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400 Yeah, I don't know. For for me, if I was managing 614 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360 one of these artists, it would just be about like one. 615 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,880 I'd I'd, I'd know it's coming some somewhere down the line. 616 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Somebody's going to ask? Yep, Yep, Yep. 617 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,560 But you need to just set up that line. 618 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,240 Of yeah, it's better to be on the offensive than defend. 619 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Yeah, just like, be more proactive, like ask if you need 620 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,080 to. Yep. 621 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,880 And because I don't want this urban tone wave to stop, bro, 622 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,720 It's it's it's dope, man, what these kids are doing. 623 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,800 Like I I'm seeing the energy and it's dope. 624 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600 I just, I worry about the business side of it. 625 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,200 And I but like, I think, I think let's look at the bigger picture 626 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320 here. Like, you know, like the bigger 627 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,840 picture is we could actually like get to a place where Kenyan 628 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,040 music is, you know, on the limelight again. 629 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,720 In that regard, although the Kenyan music is already in a 630 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,240 limelight. I'm just talking about in this 631 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,160 genre of music, it's all the. Acts should, should, should, be, 632 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,960 I would say just they should be more graceful with it because 633 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,040 they also stand to benefit, I feel. 634 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,520 Yeah, obviously I want the older acts to get their just dues for 635 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,640 for the music, definitely, of course. 636 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,760 I mean, yeah, they shouldn't, of course. 637 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,520 Of course I'm. Just saying like be at least 638 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,760 open to having a conversation. If not, we're just also just 639 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,960 also speculating. Maybe those conversations are 640 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,560 already. Going being had the scenes, 641 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,840 maybe, maybe people are on top of, on top of their business. 642 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,720 Hopefully. Let's just hope everyone is on 643 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,640 top of their business, everybody involved. 644 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,320 But yeah, I think Urban Tone is my prediction for at least the 645 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,640 first two halves of the year. Yeah, that's what's going to be 646 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,800 the big thing. Do we have any other predictions 647 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,360 do you have? Any do I have any other 648 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,880 predictions? In the music industry. 649 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,880 Man, I don't know. I don't. 650 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,840 I don't know if I have predictions as much as I I'm 651 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,360 just really excited to see what we've built on progress. 652 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,120 I feel like towards that like last year there was a lot of 653 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,040 building and a lot of things that that clicked into place. 654 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,880 I'd like I wouldn't want that should be like a 2023 thing, you 655 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,679 know. Like I'd like it to be this the 656 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,560 the turn of the key, you know and and like moving the car 657 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,199 into. Like, do you think we'll have 658 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:53,320 more activations and whatever's, like whatever's what a? 659 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,920 Podcast very specific there AFAM. 660 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,360 Very specific. Listen, yeah. 661 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Anyway, do you think we'll have more like products like we saw 662 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,000 with colours and collaborations with Spotify? 663 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,200 Do you think like this is not just with Spotify, Do you think 664 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,480 we'll have more of that type of thing? 665 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,240 And if so, maybe I can ask, what would you like to see 666 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,760 highlighted this year in the music industry? 667 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:26,400 I OK now this is my I I feel like I do need to preface this 668 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,960 with this is my opinion and this is just how I've seen things. 669 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:37,880 I would like to see the popular music scene have a little bit of 670 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,040 direction in terms of in terms of like the goal again, again 671 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,680 not to overuse the example, but we saw we see how Nigeria, West 672 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Africa and Nigeria really made Afrobeats work for them in a 673 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,200 way. And just like they've been 674 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,840 putting them and it's from way back then, it's not like a two 675 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,080 week, three thing like I mean two weeks, sorry, two week, 676 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,680 three-week thing that just happened. 677 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,480 Like like grammar is a product of what whiskey and Davido were 678 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,160 doing in 2010, you know, So it's it's like a concerted effort of 679 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,440 of just making those decisions and and so I'd like to see that 680 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,080 work for us here. It'd be nice to see a marriage 681 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,840 between some of the niche products like again, like, like 682 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,400 like I'm not, I don't mean niche in a bad way. 683 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,640 Like Spotify and then the rest of the market, what Spotify put 684 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,800 on and then the rest of the market. 685 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,920 And just like that marriage to see how well, how, how much more 686 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,520 of a stride we can take together than of course there's going to 687 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,280 be individual individualism and and and pushing yourself 688 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,960 individual as the niche and also individually as artists, and 689 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,240 that's expected. That's normal. 690 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,240 That's even needed but it was also just good to see youth how 691 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,520 that progress works. Yeah. 692 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,760 And I I my my thing is I really just don't hope, I I really 693 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,240 sorry don't don't want last year and the different things that 694 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:13,600 have happened to individuals and as a whole to be a 2023 or 2023. 695 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,960 And we're looking back at at this room 20272028 and we're 696 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520 like O23 was a good year and then we're just back to. 697 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,320 Do do you think we'll have that moment? 698 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,000 Where do you think we'll have like a Tyler Water moment where 699 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,480 we have an artist that? Wouldn't that be interesting to 700 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,080 see? Sensation. 701 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,320 Yeah, yeah, I. Because, like, OK, so I just 702 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,560 done some bare minimum research and I can see Tyler the Water 703 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,760 song is released under Epic, which is Sony. 704 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,000 Yeah. So do you think we'll see some 705 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,520 of the big three take interest in maybe maybe let's say, and 706 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,240 ask for lack of an example, a Kenyan act like karoon for 707 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,240 example. Do you think we could see like 708 00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:00,160 something like that happen and a song from a Kenyan like reach, 709 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,200 like international acclaim, like one of those? 710 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,520 And if so, do you have any, like predictions? 711 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,920 I have a bold prediction. Who might go up to that level? 712 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Man, do I think that's that's a huge thing to to speculate on 713 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,120 bold predictions. That's a huge thing to 714 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,800 speculate. This is about giving bold 715 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,360 predictions. Yeah, which I do think. 716 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,120 I think it's honestly, I I I think it's possible. 717 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,000 First off, Tyler, listen, Tyler. Tyler was signed off her. 718 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,880 She was signed off her first hit. 719 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,640 What's it called? Getting late I think so she was 720 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,080 signed off that. So this is like I said it's 721 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,720 progress of build and that was a couple of years back so it's 722 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,480 progress being built. So we do. 723 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,680 My thing is we do need to start and it starts with the work, 724 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,840 man. Like it starts with the music 725 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,560 like putting out quality music that people yeah that people can 726 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,480 resonate with. Of course you can't ignore the 727 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,320 the, the, the, the, the age, which is a TikTok age and 728 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,920 everything. So yeah, and it would be really 729 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,960 cool to see. Let me not lie, I would want to 730 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,760 see. I don't know who would. 731 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,400 If anyone were to make it, I would think it would either be 732 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,800 urban tone. Oh, sorry. 733 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:17,960 It might be an urban tone artist or it would be yeah, that now 734 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,960 from that group of of Zinnia Caroon, you know that's that's 735 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,200 RMB. And Spotify already has laid the 736 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,840 groundwork for that to happen. So. 737 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,800 This gonna happen one of these days. 738 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,840 What's your prediction? Like a you have a bold 739 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,560 prediction, boldly predict the people, the people who are 740 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:40,240 already in pole position in my opinion to like be extremely 741 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:44,360 palatable to the to the western audience. 742 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,120 For example, because my my question was about like Kina 743 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,600 Tyler would be like TG Black and Zoe Kangorcha. 744 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:59,920 I think both of those are acts are already like straddling both 745 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:06,640 worlds and could potentially, if they release music consistently 746 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,360 this year, could potentially put themselves in a position where 747 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,000 like a big a big label or whatever is interested in 748 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,800 amplifying that. Zeno of course like is already 749 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,440 has already proven that she can do that as well. 750 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,880 So even zinnias water moment is is is due water moment karoon as 751 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,040 well. Yeah, water. 752 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,000 That's what we're calling they're. 753 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,120 Calling it the. Water moment. 754 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,280 OK, now there's also Libianca, for example. 755 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,800 Like with people I. Mean we've sort of seen that 756 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,280 with with Sophie and Zao sort of ish, you know? 757 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,160 But, but, but this is the thing. I don't know if Sofia and Zao 758 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,320 has inked a deal with anyone. Probably. 759 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,320 There's people fishing. There has to be. 760 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,760 There has to be. I'm sure, I'm sure there's 761 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,080 emails coming in. That's a good one though. 762 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,040 Sophie and Zou as well. And then now it'll be interested 763 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,480 to see more organic collaborations happen because we 764 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,080 know how the water not know what the marquee collaboration. 765 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,560 Yeah, it's it's in my mind like, yeah, we know how that marquee 766 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,800 collaboration happened. That was more like the universe, 767 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,080 but like, let's see, more intentional. 768 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,000 Exactly intentional. And that's what I'm talking 769 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,280 about. That's that's what I was trying 770 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000 to say, like it would just be good to see more planning. 771 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,600 More planning so. So I think Sam, I think a bold 772 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,640 prediction is we may see an artist become an international 773 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,840 sensation soon. I'm just wondering who it might 774 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,080 be. So this is just the two routes 775 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,280 will be you know, from the R&B sector or like the Libyanca, 776 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,320 somebody who is like hopping more on like the Afro beats 777 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,800 whatever, somebody who's new, who's fresh, but like offering 778 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,040 something that's like, you know, this very, very Kenyan. 779 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,800 So I don't know what that will be. 780 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,760 Authentically it's in it's It would be good if it's kind of 781 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,200 like, I don't think I was thinking about this over the the 782 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,000 the, the holidays. I don't think it's a coincidence 783 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,880 that Marky went viral with a woman. 784 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,880 I mean Sofia singing Kikuyu on it. 785 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,720 Like I don't think it's it's a coin like we talk about when we 786 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:16,600 talk about Kenyan sound. I think an important part of 787 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,640 Kenyan sound is Kenyan culture and we see like she went viral 788 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,400 speaking Kikuyu and I I don't think it's a coincidence, it's 789 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,920 just I feel like it's something for the industry to think about. 790 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080 I'm not saying that everyone needs to go back in and speak 791 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,280 their mother tongue, but there's the aspect of culture which 792 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:38,480 needs to be infused into the music and I think that helps so. 793 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,320 Yeah. All right. 794 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,240 Let's see. I mean, both two things can be 795 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,800 true as well. So hopefully even just however 796 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:52,240 it happens, I think 50 and Zhao blowing up, Zhenya blowing up 797 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,680 last year, like the whole Spotify thing. 798 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,080 I think this is all precursory information. 799 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,480 That's. Connected. 800 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,440 To someone like blowing up in a massive way like Brad Tyler, 801 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,560 Brad Tyler is like international. 802 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,440 Libianca became international, the likes of Amari. 803 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,160 Interest. I think. 804 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,720 They all came out from that, from that. 805 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,920 Yeah. I think, I think we are, we are, 806 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,520 we are. I think we are on the precipice 807 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,520 of. Precipice like that. 808 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,520 Precipice is not a real word. Precipice A. 809 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,800 Real. Word, and I think it is, and I 810 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,840 feel like 2024. I think that my bold prediction 811 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,480 is that we're gonna be able to like, really pinpoint who that 812 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,240 artist may be or who those artists. 813 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,680 May multiple there could be multiple too we don't know Kenya 814 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,960 is not multiple. Yeah Kenya is not a isn't Kenya 815 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,520 is not a it's Kenya is not a stranger to the international 816 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,080 stage. So like we've in other areas, 817 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,360 like there's we've, we've made waves. 818 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,600 So it's very, very, very reasonable that we could in 819 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,760 music too. It just takes intentionality, 820 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,360 that's what it takes, and hard work. 821 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,040 It does good. Old hard work. 822 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,520 Good old hard work. OK. 823 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,320 So in the news, OK, guys, just want to put this out there. 824 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,240 So the music industry, usually the, the wider or general music 825 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:29,440 industry will take a hiatus in January, so as opposed to like 826 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,720 in December. So in January is when the wider 827 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:37,040 music industry kind of takes a pause and people really start 828 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,440 like, you know, coming out of the woodworks like towards the 829 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,520 end of January, February. So there's very little that's 830 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,520 going on right now in the music industry. 831 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,200 There's stuff going on of course, but like it's slow, it's 832 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,480 a slow time. So I just want to preface that. 833 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,880 So in terms of the news, I I guess we can talk about this 834 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,120 like in brief. So there's two articles that 835 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,360 caught my attention. One was major splitting with his 836 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,920 manager Shiko. So yeah, I I read this article 837 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,400 on Nairobi news. It seems like he's he's parting 838 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,480 ways with his manager and he released a statement where he 839 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,640 says Shiko is no longer my manager. 840 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,040 We have decided to part ways, but Makwadjani Ajab, I have 841 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,160 nothing but respect for her. Shukran Wagenge, God bless. 842 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,360 And it's interesting because I think Major is working towards 843 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,080 an album. Yeah, he has been. 844 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,080 He's been working towards an album for a minute now. 845 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,520 He he told us, he told us the album was good, was coming, 846 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,880 didn't say where is it and is this a set back now? 847 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,720 I. Hope it's coming. 848 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,840 I hope this is not a set. Back. 849 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,360 That's another problem. So I hope. 850 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,840 I hope there's no fire in his camp at the moment. 851 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,600 I don't know how if. Major knows that people are 852 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,360 really waiting for his joint. I don't know if he knows 853 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,000 sometimes. Sometimes artists could be in 854 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,600 the studio the whole time. They're not really aware of 855 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,000 what's going outside. Like Major has been the past 856 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,120 couple of years, he's been on fire and we're like, all right 857 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,440 and you know how you know how people are, are in this side of 858 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,880 the world? It's like it's always albums, 859 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,480 it's EPS and albums. It's never singles. 860 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,600 We're never satisfied with singles. 861 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,040 We want you to release an album, so it's like. 862 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,360 On this side of the world, yeah, we want albums and stuff. 863 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,160 So I I don't know. Listen. 864 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,760 An album oriented market. Pathways that happens. 865 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,200 Yeah, so. And hope. 866 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,800 Hope he links up with someone who is forward thinking, yeah? 867 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,080 Hopefully he does, yeah. The other news I saw that was 868 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,280 interesting was, but I I mean we we've kind of touched on this 869 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,640 already about how Bensol and Viri are. 870 00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,280 You know, so this is the year. Angling. 871 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,960 Yeah. The angling at departure from 872 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,800 sole generation and it most likely is going to happen this 873 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,200 year. The interesting thing I saw 874 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,400 about this whole topic was that they said that. 875 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,440 So sole generation kind of said or hinted at, yeah, the fact 876 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,960 that the teams that are currently around Bensol and Viri 877 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,200 might stick with them, Bensol and that's good, that's good. 878 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,200 That's good. That's good. 879 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,280 So they just changed the names, not the teams. 880 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,720 Like more community. I mean continuity. 881 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,560 Sorry, you were saying. No, I'm saying yeah, no, that's 882 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,360 that's so it's it's just the it's a major, major name the 883 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,200 label that's changing it's really good. 884 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,480 Again, it'll be interesting to see to see how they function 885 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,160 without the the leadership and guidance that makes it sound so 886 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,000 serious, the leadership and guidance of of sole generation 887 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,320 itself as as an entity. I don't know me, I'm super 888 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:53,960 excited. It was. 889 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,520 I think for me, I've just been excited to be to have been part 890 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,560 of that story even as little as it is. 891 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,760 Like in the beginning and just back when they were starting up 892 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,200 and figuring a lot of these things out. 893 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,680 Of course when you left they just blew up some so that's part 894 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,640 of it. But it's it's it's cool to see. 895 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,920 Yeah man that's I really I really hope it's. 896 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,400 I hope that after if they leave and when they leave, if they 897 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,040 leave that there'll be a clear explosion in their careers 898 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,240 rather than a lull. And just like a oh man like can 899 00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:33,840 we sit down and figure things out now da da da like and we 900 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,600 start seeing them less because they have been a staple in the 901 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:45,240 pop side of of of the industry. So it'll be really, it'll be sad 902 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,720 to lose that, especially all the momentum that they've been 903 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:52,120 building, you know, with fans and shows and tours that they've 904 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,480 been doing. Also, they won't lose that, they 905 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,520 won't lose that, they won't lose that. 906 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,840 They'll be fine. They'll be fine. 907 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,880 The whole point of them being so Jen was artist development, and 908 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,720 now they're ready to spread. The. 909 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,800 Wings and fly, Yeah, they've developed enough. 910 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,760 So now it's it's time for them to stand on their own two legs 911 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:11,240 and let's see, let's see what what we can expect from both 912 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,560 Bensol and Viri. And so Jen will be fine. 913 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,120 They're already setting up this whole new thing with the press 914 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,440 play and having the new generation of artists that they 915 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,840 want to push, so. Again, yeah. 916 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,040 And this is also an indicator of of, of if. 917 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,120 So Jen really has it because can they do, can they do what 918 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,200 they've done with this two, this two, Yeah. 919 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,520 Can they do it? Can they do it again? 920 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,360 That's, that's the question. That's all on our minds. 921 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,200 That's yeah, yeah. And I think they can so. 922 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,440 I all. Optimistic. 923 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:47,520 Yeah, so. So, Sam, so there's really, no, 924 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,640 I don't know. Did you listen to anything new, 925 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,000 per SE that caught you? Yeah, there was no, I was. 926 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,920 I've been laughing the past two weekends because the guys at 927 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,920 Spotify have not, because we usually get most of our new 928 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,880 music from who has been chosen on this spot. 929 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:06,360 But they're on holiday mode for real. 930 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,000 I feel like they have not updated that playlist for 931 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,200 nothing so. Anyone I can remember who's 932 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,520 released music in the past? So I don't know. 933 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,480 Yeah I I haven't, I haven't been. 934 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,840 I haven't it's we need we need we need other outlets also just 935 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,400 to figure out the music. So I don't know if you've heard. 936 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,760 Have you heard anything? Have I heard anything that that 937 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,320 caught my attention this past like, week? 938 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,480 No, I don't. I don't think I've heard any new 939 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,920 music. I mean, I saw the Sabi Wu, I saw 940 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,520 the Sabi Wu video that he did, but the Nyamaza song. 941 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,080 But you know that that came out already. 942 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,120 They're really crushed. It's just. 943 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,280 That they did the video. We need new music. 944 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,120 We need new music. Release music. 945 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,040 We. Shout out to Kina Sabi Wu and 946 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,200 that's that. That video is. 947 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,120 Hard. And if you're listening and you 948 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,920 did release music and we are completely skipping it, please. 949 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,600 Yeah, unfortunately. Light up our Instagram and our 950 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,720 socials. But listen, I think we should 951 00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:08,600 just play, you know, we should do, we should just play because 952 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,720 we talked about all this urban tone stuff. 953 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,600 Yeah, I I would like to play like an urban tone song, kind of 954 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,920 just to give people an insight into what we're talking about, 955 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:22,480 especially people who are not necessarily in the Kenyans 956 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,120 listening space. So me, I want to play my 957 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,960 favorite song, which is Tic Tac by Ron Scooby. 958 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,600 I thought you were about to play cocoa butter first. 959 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,000 No. Well, I well, the reason I've 960 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,360 said no so vehemently is I feel cringy about doing self promo. 961 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,840 I don't know self. Promo. 962 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,680 Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's cringy. 963 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,000 It's not that I love that song, of course, man. 964 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,080 It's my song. It's your platform. 965 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,400 It's my it is. But like, I want to play Run 966 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,080 Scooby. I just like that song. 967 00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:02,080 Tic Tac. Yeah, listen, here is Tic Tac by 968 00:52:02,080 --> 00:53:19,840 Run Scooby. Good 969 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,880 only goes fire baby Mama Shia weekend that there you are here 970 00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,320 for the weekend body Shia fire like gas on the go down on the 971 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,320 like a hip every man down when I press on the give me that thing 972 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,400 when you pull up on the weekend weekend. 973 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:04,960 That was Tic Tac by Ran. Scooby, shout out to him. 974 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,520 Shout out to the whole Abanton movement. 975 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,680 We have our eyes on you guys, our eyes and ears. 976 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,840 Yeah, The whole industry has the eyes on your. 977 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,960 Yeah, on us, on ourselves. We. 978 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,880 Have the eyes on ourselves. Don't worry about it. 979 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,680 Don't worry about it. Please don't do it. 980 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,320 Don't do that bad. Not this New Year. 981 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,480 Not you making me seem cringy this new Year on purpose. 982 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,960 Relax. Calm down. 983 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,360 So you're putting the blame on me? 984 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,920 Yes, I did that. Yes, I do know. 985 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,320 You do know that when someone says something and there's a 986 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,760 it's podcasting 11 and you pause, it allows for the brain 987 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,920 to think things within that pause. 988 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,640 And if I said something that's completely outlandish and you 989 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,520 didn't support me, it's going to be cringe, especially for myself 990 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,800 and you know it. OK, so you're doing that on 991 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,440 purpose and now you're making me over explain myself and now it's 992 00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,080 even worse. I still. 993 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,160 Do that intentionally. I just didn't know how to 994 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,960 respond to that. What was I supposed to say? 995 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,560 Just it's fine. OK. 996 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,280 Anyway, you guys didn't sign up to hear some and I. 997 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:17,440 Bicker over the podcast. That's not what this platform is 998 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,040 for. It's really not. 999 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,200 It's for the music industry and the music it is. 1000 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,120 It is. And we appreciate every single 1001 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,600 person who is part of it. Oh, oh, sorry. 1002 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,680 Exactly, exactly. And shout out to you guys, man. 1003 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,800 Like I was telling some before the podcast. 1004 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:39,160 Like even when we when I we were shooting the video for Cocoa 1005 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,200 Butter, there were two people who you know came up and they're 1006 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,520 like, yo, listen to the I listened to the podcast. 1007 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,760 That's cool, isn't it? Had the conversation. 1008 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,960 It's weird and we sound. We sound so green and vanilla 1009 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,080 and we say that, but it's cool. My it's definitely. 1010 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,160 I don't care how vanilla I sound. 1011 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,640 It's not. It's cool when someone comes. 1012 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,040 Up to you and say never get Yeah, yeah. 1013 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,280 I don't know if I'll ever get used to it. 1014 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,000 Like being recognized from the podcast. 1015 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,960 Like it's it's it's surreal and we're very thankful man. 1016 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,560 Like it's it's like, I don't know. 1017 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,800 I don't even know how to describe. 1018 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,840 It we need to act like, we need to act like we've been here 1019 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,560 before our phone. We need to act like, yeah, so 1020 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,280 that's cool, man. I mean, shout out to all of of 1021 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,080 you, so yeah, well, I'm. Not gonna me. 1022 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,760 I'm not gonna lie to you people. But like you've been here 1023 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,120 before? Nah. 1024 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,360 Nah, I'm not. But you listen shout out to you 1025 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:31,240 guys for rocking with the 30% port boys and listen, we're 1026 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,480 going into our second year man. I'm super excited. 1027 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,680 This is the part where we we say we have such big plans laid out 1028 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:49,120 in the oh, Yep. Big plans, but most very, very 1029 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,880 big plans. So anyway, huge no. 1030 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,040 But we're definitely. Going to be interviewing Obama 1031 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,800 guys. Definitely. 1032 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,200 He's going to tell us about about he's. 1033 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,800 Going to be asking him the tough questions, like how do you come 1034 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,600 up with your yearly playlist? Yep. 1035 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,400 And why are there no Kenyans on there? 1036 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,320 Maybe. Maybe that's the key. 1037 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,560 Maybe we need to. Figure out your question. 1038 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,960 And he's Kenyan, so he should have a Kenyan on there, right? 1039 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,480 But I hope you guys have seen through that that's a music 1040 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,800 industry marketing to. Pain, bro. 1041 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,680 Big box. He needs to make his money. 1042 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,960 Like like he's not getting that government money anymore. 1043 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,840 Oh wait, maybe he's. Look at me. 1044 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,080 Pocket watching Obama isn't. Making any money. 1045 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,640 Look at me, pocket watching Obama. 1046 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,160 But yeah, you have to. Give my label me. 1047 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,600 I'm saying get my music on Obama's list. 1048 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,520 Somehow. Let's do that. 1049 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,640 Spam. Spam. 1050 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,200 Send. Send. 1051 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,440 Send emails to his aides. Send emails to Michelle. 1052 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,400 Hit up. Malia. 1053 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,000 What is her name? Is that his name? 1054 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:41,880 Malia. Malia. 1055 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,080 Malia. That's her name, right? 1056 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,280 That's her name. Malia. 1057 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,720 Malia. I even said his name. 1058 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,560 Oh, this is terrible. Can we move on from this please? 1059 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,000 Emphasis is in the E OK, the emphasis is the. 1060 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,360 Is there an E on I, bro? See you. 1061 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,760 Look, you're correcting me. It's an I, but it's Malia 1062 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,520 anyway, guys. This. 1063 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,440 Was the 30% podcast. Listen, we've been doing this 1064 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,800 for a year, but we're no less cringy and no less better. 1065 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,120 No better at outdoing the podcast. 1066 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,880 So hopefully some things will change. 1067 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:16,120 But guys, listen. That was episode 5058 of the 30% 1068 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,880 Podcast. Thank you all for being here 1069 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,680 with us. We love being here with you. 1070 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,440 We do. We do. 1071 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,400 We do. And we'll catch you again on 1072 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,440 episode 559. 9.