1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,080 Yeah, so, I know. So, so let me, OK, listen, I'm 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,360 doing this for the content guys. Listen, this is how much I fuck 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,600 with you guys, so I'm going to give you guys an insight into 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,640 the behind the scenes. So I actually knew about Magana. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,760 Like a while ago she released a song, I believe it was called 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,320 Drifting like way back in 2018. And I believe I heard it in 2019 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,400 and I reached out to her. So, so this is like, like, when 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,920 you're a producer, what you do is you find some artists and 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,640 they're really exciting and then you just hit them up. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,600 So I was like, because, you know, I saw the release and I 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,880 was like, Magana. That name is so familiar. 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,560 And I was like, wait, I know Magana? 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,240 And then I was like, yo, I actually hit her up way back in 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,280 the day. And I still have the DMS. 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,920 So this is how this is how it usually goes. 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you guys like my DMS? 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,760 This is how young afam? Young. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,480 Well, young, I say. Well. 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,000 Relatively, yeah. Four young compared. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,080 To 4 1/2 year? Yeah, exactly. 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,840 So 4 1/2 year AFAM. Wait, 4 1/2 year ago AFAM in the 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,200 past. That makes the that's. 23 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:12,760 A lovely way to see what you're trying to say, read the DMS, 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,720 man. Let's see, let's see what? 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Let's see what was cooking. So. 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:47,560 The. Yo, what's up? 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:53,560 And welcome to episode 59 of the 30% Podcast. 28 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,920 I go by the name of AFAM and I'm joined by my amazing Co host, 29 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,320 Sam Sam. What's up? 30 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 What's? Up was up was up was up. 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Good to be back. Good to be back in the flow of 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,560 the podcast, which by the way, you can listen to on YouTube. 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,880 You can listen to this on Anchor Podcast. 34 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,560 You can listen to this on Spotify. 35 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,760 You can listen to this on Apple Podcast as well as Google 36 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Podcast. You can find us on social media, 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,840 you can find us on X, you can find us on Instagram, you can 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,920 find us on Threads, You can find us on LinkedIn. 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:36,200 And I believe we have a link tree in our bio which you can 40 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,880 follow and just find all the platforms in which we exist. 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Sam, how are you? I am good, man. 42 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,360 I am. I'm good. 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,520 I'm. I'm good. 44 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,360 Before, before we before we get into actually how our weeks are, 45 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:56,840 I found an interesting article about Sam. 46 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,480 Do you believe in Angel numbers? I don't even know what those 47 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,040 are, so. So Angel numbers can be a 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,040 powerful source of inspiration and guidance. 49 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,120 By staying receptive to the messages they contain, you could 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,280 uncover the key to unlocking your full potential and purpose 51 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,040 in life. When interpreting Angel numbers, 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,320 thinking about how you felt in the moments leading up to seeing 53 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,520 the number is essential. Now we are in episode 59. 54 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,000 I want to read the Yeah, like let's figure out what this whole 55 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,080 episode means. Sam. 56 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Ultimately, the 59 Angel number symbolizes abundance, wealth and 57 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,080 success. Everybody who's listening to 58 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,880 this podcast right now, you We are put no is an episode. 59 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Wait. Wait, no, no, no. 60 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,200 This is serious. This is serious. 61 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,560 No, no, this is serious stuff. This number symbolizes 62 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,400 abundance, wealth, and success. Well, this Angel number appears 63 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:01,960 in your life. You. 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Sound like a Nigerian? Appearing in our lives, Sam, let 65 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,480 me cook. It can indicate that you are 66 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,000 about to experience a period of great prosperity and good 67 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,680 fortune. The Angels are encouraging you 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,279 to keep taking steps towards your goals and your dreams. 69 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,920 They are signaling that the universe is ready to open the 70 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:29,000 order of abundance in your life. You listen Episode 50. 9 This is 71 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,440 unexpected episode of a bundle no. 72 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,680 And it's only this episode. So when you get to 60 what are 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,440 we doing? Is is it are we? 74 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Are we back to to and? Then when we get to 69, you know 75 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:47,040 what time it is, bro? Anyway, I'm sorry, but yeah, 76 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,000 listen. Episode 50. 9 Let's go, Let's 77 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,720 go. What did you say? 78 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,280 Episode of success and abundance? 79 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Abundance exactly. Prosperity. 80 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Prosperity, Abundance, and. Wealth and also success. 81 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Of course, of course. Of course. 82 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,520 Of course. And and as as we we definitely 83 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,920 wish because we won't just want to use that blessing on 84 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,160 ourselves would we so on everyone who's. 85 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Did you have an abundantly wealthy success this week? 86 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,840 Let's take the wealthy out. We can, we can live with 87 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,680 abundant abundantly successful. No it was it was it was actually 88 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,320 a successful week. I was in the studio more times 89 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,880 than I have been, which was cool. 90 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:29,480 Worked on some really good music. 91 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,520 I had a really cool experience where it's interesting as a 92 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,560 producer where when you make something and before you play 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,040 it, it just like just Kuchi Shukutu and then and then you're 94 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,760 like you know what let me sneak this one in. 95 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,080 Hopefully they'll like it and then you sneak it in and they're 96 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,800 like farm this is the greatest thing ever. 97 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,160 So it's it's very nice when that happens on my head on those and. 98 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,360 OK. Yeah, so it was just that. 99 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,800 And then just really honestly working. 100 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,800 I've been trying to produce a lot more and link up with 101 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,200 artists. So that's that, man. 102 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,320 My my life right now is grind mode. 103 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,240 It is grind mode. So that's what I've been doing. 104 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,080 That's what I've been doing. What have you been up to? 105 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Me, I've been smoking gasoline in the Kili Valley, Gaza. 106 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,680 I've been getting cheese like a Milli Valley pasta linking with 107 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,160 my rasters. Picking with pastas. 108 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,880 We be in the cell like Mikasa sukasa, Sukasa, eh Promoters 109 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,760 wouldn't followed you. I don't know. 110 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,720 I didn't know that line. The vision in a song. 111 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Come on, Sam, Sam, I appreciate how much for a set. 112 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,960 How much for a set? What did you say, Bonga? 113 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,800 Sorry, I'm letting you down, man. 114 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,360 I'll let you down. I heard he was speaking, then I 115 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,960 heard he was no longer getting way too okay. 116 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,640 Anyway, I like. I like the. 117 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Bonga. Bonga no longer. 118 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,640 I like that. That's very. 119 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Very. Very. 120 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,480 The cover to Befika Juba Doba Zina. 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Gonga was a gone guy. I got it. 122 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,920 Anyway, anyway, anyway, for those of you guys wondering what 123 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,280 is affirm on about, those are the famous lyrics by a famous 124 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,120 Kenyan artist called Korbs Corby. 125 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Anyway, so it's just been in my head, man. 126 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,320 I don't know why these things have been in my head. 127 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,040 So my my week has consisted of me listening to that song. 128 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,600 Then what? What? 129 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,280 OK, the first three days of my week were dedicated to making 130 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,680 Afrobeats for reasons unstated. But yeah, it was, bruh. 131 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,480 It was intense. I was making Afrobeats like from 132 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,920 dusk till dawn. Like it was. 133 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,680 I made enough Afrobeats for a lifetime, almost. 134 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,480 That's how it felt. But yeah, so I made a bunch of 135 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,720 Afrobeats until Wednesday. And then So what else did I do 136 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,360 this week that was of note? Oh yeah. 137 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,160 And then on Thursday, we had the announcement. 138 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:01,840 So Steph sent me the the the trailer for the song for cocoa 139 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,200 butter, like the video. And I was so impressed. 140 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,280 But bro, I'm telling you, like videographers are like magicians 141 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,280 because like, on the day, like when we were doing the shoot, 142 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,000 like it was very run and gun. It was like it doesn't look like 143 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,280 much. We shoot this, whatever. 144 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,240 But then you he sends the edit in and I'm like, what? 145 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,880 It's so insane. So anyway, that edit was the. 146 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,600 Miracle of Editing is what it is. 147 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 I know. So yeah, so then we just, we had 148 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,640 the announcement for the for the song, for the video, which by 149 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,120 day, if you guys are listening to this, it's coming out 150 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,720 tomorrow. The music video for Coco Butter. 151 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,400 You may see me there again, but like you, if you see me, you 152 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,360 didn't see well, You dripped out. 153 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:45,560 But moving on, no, I wasn't. You didn't have the drip, drip 154 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,440 for my bad. Sorry. 155 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,800 No, I just look like I'm music producer. 156 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,720 It's sad. It's on brand. 157 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,640 What else? What else did I do on the week, 158 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,840 bro? Whenever anybody asks these 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,080 questions like. Whenever anyone asks any 160 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,560 question, that's when the answers decide not to show. 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,480 They're just not available. Camouflage. 162 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,000 That's what it is. Yeah, let me see. 163 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Let me see. Let me see. 164 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,480 Mama. Say Mama. 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,360 I don't know. I didn't really do that much. 166 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,680 Like my week was mostly about just making music and then 167 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,720 scheduling a bunch of stuff as well. 168 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,840 In terms of music, you know, we have a few release plans down 169 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,720 the pipeline. Actually, There's some music 170 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,200 coming. On this I also saw, I saw I saw 171 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,880 something you had posted the the there's some artists you posted 172 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,720 on on on on Instagram page. What was that page? 173 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,760 None. None of. 174 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,240 Oh yeah, yeah. Then me and my bro Foster, we 175 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,960 started a page called None of It Was Real. 176 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,840 And essentially what we'll be doing is we'll just be 177 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,880 highlighting artists, this artist who we listen to more on 178 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,000 the alternative spectrum of music. 179 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,280 And yeah, it's literally just that. 180 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 It's just where we're highlighting the whole world of 181 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,840 drum and bass and maybe a little bit of hyper pop and maybe a 182 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,120 little bit of shoe gaze, maybe a little bit of alternative 183 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:14,200 rockish leaning stuff, but just stuff that's alternative in 184 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,160 general. Just just for highlighting sake, 185 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,000 that's like that's the goal, just to highlight it. 186 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,160 Yeah, just for highlighting sake because like we feel like it's a 187 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,720 space that's not really highlighted. 188 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Like the the spaces that are really highlighted are like the 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,760 trap scene is very well covered. The hyper pop scene is very well 190 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,840 covered. The pop scene is very well 191 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,280 covered. But just the area in between 192 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,840 that Gray area where it's like people who are making like D&B 193 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,000 and stuff, but like also like being very experimental with it, 194 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,440 like this girl called Ivory. Yeah, like we just wanted to 195 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,720 like highlight that. So yeah, so we started the page 196 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,760 and. Hopefully that's what. 197 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,800 But yeah, Sam, Sam, tell me, tell me what, what, what is 198 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,600 happening in this, the the musical, the musical streets as 199 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,560 they will be referred to by myself? 200 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:12,120 The industry is waking up. Bro, the industry is really, 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,680 really waking. Up. 202 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:17,040 The industry is waking up. It was a good, good sleep 203 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,840 towards the end of the year. OK, people need to get back. 204 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,720 So I've found an article, yo, I mean one shout out to Sophie 205 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,840 Anzal of course. So I listened to the I know this 206 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,080 is like this is not the music segment, but it makes sense. 207 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,600 Listened to the remix by Major Lazer. 208 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,040 I know Diplo did a remix to Milwaukee of course. 209 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,560 And that came out, which is, yeah. 210 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,720 It's interesting that. Yeah, go ahead. 211 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,960 Sorry, No, I'm saying no. Just sorry. 212 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Actually, I interrupted you for the reason. 213 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,480 Continue. I'll oh. 214 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,360 No, no, I was just going to say, yeah. 215 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,200 And so Diplo is actually doing a show on the 20th of January. 216 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,920 It's going to be in Carnivore and this is actually the third 217 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,000 time he's going to be in the country. 218 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,560 The the, the, the, the event is organized by Kenya Knights and 219 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,040 he's going to be sharing the stage with Cool Drink from South 220 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,320 Africa, Night Freak from Zimbabwe and our very own 221 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Hiribai who used to be 1/5 of EA Wave among other local DJs who 222 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,200 will also be there. TA Wave. 223 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,600 Yeah, I don't know. I think they're more like a 224 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,720 trying to be like a label or something. 225 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,840 I don't know. So apparently he made a video 226 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,240 kind of saying that yo, you know how they always make videos? 227 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Yo, Nairobi, what's up? What's up? 228 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,280 Do you always find those videos cringy? 229 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,960 Yo, Nairobi, what's going on? You're Nairobi. 230 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Oppressed. And then and then at the end, 231 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,880 and then and then at the end they always said. 232 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,120 Exactly, so just. Be like hey. 233 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,680 To to to. Looking forward to having you. 234 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,160 He's just like, all right. Thanks, bro. 235 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Thanks, bro. Shut up. 236 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Wait, wait, who tells them to do this thing? 237 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,160 No, you have to, but no, you have to. 238 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,120 You have to because no, but you have to at the end, at the end 239 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,080 of like you want. You want them to feel like, like 240 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,160 you're part of of them. You know, it's like how? 241 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Like when? Yo, Nairobi, Yaj. 242 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,800 I go by the name Drake. I'm sorry bro. 243 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,680 And Jake would imagine Jake would definitely. 244 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,560 No, man, no. Jake is corny enough to do that, 245 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,280 I think. Because you know the video of 246 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Jake where he's like, there's a video of Jake where he's the one 247 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,920 where he's like, oh, man's what does. 248 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,920 He say. Oh man, don't care about all 249 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,520 that. It's like, why are you saying 250 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,680 that? He was saying that because of 251 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,880 this song. But why are you saying that like 252 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,120 in the video? Because you're out in the UK. 253 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,200 Drake is a good he's he's good at that. 254 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,360 It'd be interesting. How are you talking about Drake? 255 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,000 You know shout out to shout out to Diplo man. 256 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Diplo. Diplo. 257 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Kanye seems to be a this is, this is. 258 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:12,360 I was aware of the 2014 one and OK, no, no, no. 259 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,760 Yeah. So he's been here twice before. 260 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,040 OK, man, that's that's supposed it's interesting that he dropped 261 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,520 the market release right before he decides to come here. 262 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Like that's that's good marketing in my. 263 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,320 Sense. Tactically, yeah, bro. 264 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Before the podcast, Sam was telling me that he released a 265 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,760 song with Yashinsky and I was like, it must have been really 266 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,520 poorly marketed because I. I can't even. 267 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,880 I can't even find it anywhere. You can't even find that song. 268 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Yeah, that's all. Must have not done really well 269 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,840 because, like, I didn't even know that was a thing that 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,400 happened. Yeah, those skulls, but. 271 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,240 Yeah, I mean skulls. Stay open. 272 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Stay open. Yeah. 273 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,320 Diplo MO, which is MO was on Lean on. 274 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,440 You need somebody to lean on and Yashinsky. 275 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,320 I didn't even know that song. Exists, yeah. 276 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,000 But yo, for those of you who are oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. 277 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Sorry, no, I was, I was trying to stabilize on streaming 278 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,000 platforms, stills actually, but I couldn't find it recently. 279 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Anyway, continue. No, I was just going to say for 280 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,840 those of you who are very into the UNS, the UNS is in your 281 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,720 blood streamed. I guess this is something that 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,000 you guys are looking forward to some. 283 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Do you think you're going to attend the Kenya Knights? 284 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,240 Good. I don't think so. 285 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,880 I don't think so. I mean why? 286 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Don't you? That's not your scene, that's 287 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,720 not your vibe. It's not myself. 288 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:34,200 No, not necessarily. I mean, not I I could go for the 289 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,560 music's sake but then I don't know. 290 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,560 I just don't think I'm going to deeply is cool. 291 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,960 So this raises is this is this deeply solo or Major Lazer? 292 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Major Lazer's deeply so. It's just Diplo. 293 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,840 Yeah, I think it's just deep. Deeply sorry but. 294 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,280 He shows love, bro. He must, he must love coming 295 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,440 here because, I mean, this is going to be the third time he 296 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,640 comes through. Yeah. 297 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Yeah, shout out to Mr. Thomas Wesley Pence. 298 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,520 Thomas Wesley Pence. He's from America. 299 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:09,840 OK, so so that's Diplo. OK, so yo, this is the what we 300 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,240 are in January and this bro, do you feel like this year is 301 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,880 already good? Like it's already been 2. 302 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,040 Weeks halfway through January, the. 303 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Year is already flying. Back Oh, that's how the year 304 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,400 moves at a constant speed. I think it's just our 305 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,480 participation in it that that dictates whether it's also slow. 306 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Also, I read somewhere that like the older you grow, a year 307 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:36,880 becomes less of a of a of a big period of time because it's it's 308 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,800 a. It's in the way in just in the 309 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,920 sense of how we perceive it because it becomes a smaller 310 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,480 fraction of our entire life. For example, when we were 10, 311 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,080 right? And you're in Class 5, you'd 312 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,520 only lived nine years prior to that. 313 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,080 So a year is really, really significant. 314 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,280 So that's why like a year like when you're in Class 5 felt like 315 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,040 a year like that year felt like really long and like because at 316 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,440 the time when you were experiencing it, that was a 317 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,280 tenth of your life. Now if you are 30, for example, 318 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,560 a year is a 30th of your life. So it feels relatively less 319 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,240 significant than it would 10 year old that does? 320 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,760 No, that makes, it makes definitely makes sense. 321 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,720 It makes sense, it makes sense. But then now it's like so now as 322 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,400 you grow older because you don't know how much of the year, I 323 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,280 mean how many years you have left because we never know, 324 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,120 right. But I guess you're just 325 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:36,560 functioning off, that's the truth. 326 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Did you get that from the same site as the Angel Angel numbers? 327 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Wow, Sam throwing shade. So wow, Angel. 328 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Numbers. I can't believe you did that. 329 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,560 No. Prosperity. 330 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,240 Prosperity. Prosperity. 331 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,680 And and and and wealth. I can't believe Sam doesn't want 332 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,800 us to be prosperous and. Wealth and prosperity. 333 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,680 Angel numbers. What does that even mean? 334 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,040 Who came up with that? Who was sitting in their 335 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,760 basement typing that up? That's what I need to. 336 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,520 That's what I need to know. That's what I need to. 337 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Know, listen, Sam, Don't be so sceptical, man. 338 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Don't be such a sceptic. OK, so, so this. 339 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,640 Like I was saying, this is the beginning of the year and you 340 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,200 know a lot of people are especially in no in all 341 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,800 industries, we're trying to set up what 2024 is going to look 342 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,960 like. And you know and if you're in 343 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,040 the creative scene, there are a few opportunities that you 344 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,680 should be looking to kind of involve yourself in. 345 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Essentially these opportunities can really, really greatly 346 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,720 impact your year and even next year because some of these 347 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,080 opportunities span two years. And you know one thing, one 348 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,520 thing and we've talked about this in the pod in the podcast 349 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,720 before when highlighting different various opportunities 350 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,680 like you know getting grants and all this type of stuff can 351 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,600 really, really help facilitate the art. 352 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,840 For example, like even the press play, I believe, I don't have 353 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,240 the specific grant like pulled up, but I believe a sole 354 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:16,320 generation secured a grant that kind of enabled them to to 355 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:19,120 engage in the press press play project. 356 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:23,680 And so like there's some and and look like now that's that's 357 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,800 initiative that has put on the likes of Juanita and Bakita 358 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,920 like. So you see like grants can 359 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:36,360 really help unlock industries because it helps people have 360 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:40,120 that ability to facilitate like some of these initiatives that 361 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,840 might take a lot of capital that maybe you just don't have liquid 362 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,080 at the moment, right. So I found a few articles, so 363 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,160 one of them is. So there is. 364 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,080 So there's a there's an open call for the Nafasi Co 365 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:01,000 Production fund which is going to be led by Goete Institute. 366 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,400 They are inviting applications for the NCF fund in Kenya. 367 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,080 The initiative was birthed to encourage more dialogue and 368 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,880 interdisciplinary collaboration between artists and the fund 369 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,080 will support 3 innovative collaborative works slash 370 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,080 projects grounded on a collective artistic 371 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,640 collaboration that explores new art forms in the areas of visual 372 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,080 art, music, dance, theatre and new media. 373 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,160 Each of the three selected projects will benefit from will 374 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,360 benefit from a grant of 400,000 Kenya shillings. 375 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,600 The final output will be presented at the Goatee 376 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,280 Institute, Nairobi or any pre approved and free to use space 377 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,960 of the artists choosing in the year 2024. 378 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,480 The application deadline is on the 31st of January and listen, 379 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,240 the eligibility is open to all creatives in Kenya. 380 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Like all you just need to do is you need to submit your 381 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,400 project's description right which must include like a brief 382 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,240 profile of the artists involved and any relevant links to the 383 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,840 websites that you have ETC. You have to have a a a time plan 384 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,720 for your projects because all of these outputs must be presented 385 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,600 before the 31st of November. You need to have an itemized 386 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,000 budget which shouldn't exceed 400,000. 387 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,360 You can cover the cost of production props, space, hire, 388 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:37,520 assistant fees, all that jazz. So brah, if you. 389 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,800 I mean if you're building up to like like now if the music 390 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,320 industry and you want to build up to like an album or an EP and 391 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,840 you you know this is. Something it's a good thing to 392 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,760 apply for. It's a good thing to apply for, 393 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,520 yeah. So you you're the applicants 394 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,360 will be contacted before the 3rd of February and there's no 395 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:00,520 specified format for the application process. 396 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,800 And yeah, the costs to be covered by Gote directly include 397 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,240 posters and PR material, photography of the final output, 398 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,880 and all space related costs. So yeah, listen, if you are an 399 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,040 artist listening to this podcast, I would greatly urge 400 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,960 you to, like, look at this opportunity and see if it fits 401 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:27,080 or suits your vision. And then, yeah, go for. 402 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,120 It I mean if you if you have a vision that takes money it's 403 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,800 just I guess so they have a budget limit which is which I 404 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,440 guess would be the the major thing and they also said that 405 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:40,360 the so the artists what was what was the term they used the 406 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:48,120 artists fee it should be part of it but it shouldn't exceed 4545% 407 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:51,520 So that's just important to note because we know how some 408 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,560 sometimes it could be where the artist fee is the bulk of 409 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,440 actually with a lot of productions working in a lot of 410 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,200 productions outside I've seen that artists well depending on 411 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,280 what it is sometimes artists tend to take a huge chunk of 412 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,960 like even in like Hollywood films and stuff like that like 413 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:12,680 they have a but the artists will take like 10 to 20 I mean sorry 414 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,800 the actors take like 10/20/30 sometimes 40% of of the entire 415 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,960 budget which is huge but yeah no it's a definitely it's 416 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,800 definitely a good a good a good opportunity a good opportunity 417 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,920 be good be good to see what comes to say that there's three 418 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,880 projects that they're going to they're going to sponsor so. 419 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,960 400,400 thousand is good money to like for a project, yeah. 420 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,720 No, Yeah, it's good enough for. Successful like a music. 421 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Project. Yeah, it's good for successful 422 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,320 project here locally. So that's pretty dope. 423 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,800 That's pretty dope. Yeah, that's cool. 424 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,560 So on. On other Gothe Institute is it 425 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,400 Gothe, Gothe. Do you not pronounce it Gothe 426 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,920 Gothe Institute News. So there's the SASA Nairobi 427 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,960 Artist Fellowship, the Open Call for the Stuff Nairobi Artist 428 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,400 Fellowship. To go to institute. 429 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,480 Man, yeah there's they're they're doing a whole bunch in 430 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,760 like we've we've we've I think we've covered them last year 431 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,120 also. They're doing a whole bunch for 432 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,280 not let me just say a whole bunch, but they're doing quite 433 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,800 creating opportunities for artists, not just artists but 434 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:29,560 creatives which is really cool. So the Artist Fellowship is is I 435 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,480 guess the the other grants sort of that they're that they're 436 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,760 looking for applications for. Yes Sir, yes it's part of the 437 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,800 the the Institute's visual art programme. 438 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,680 It aims at giving artists space and resources to present concept 439 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:49,440 based exhibitions. So two year programme that wait. 440 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,160 Did you say this is the Sasa Nairobi Artist Fellowship? 441 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Yeah, yeah, the Sasa Nairobi artist. 442 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,160 The Open Golf is Sasa Nairobi Artist Fellowship. 443 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Yeah, it's a two year programme that attempts to bridge the 444 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,640 grap, the gap the grap the gap between artistic scholarship, 445 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,440 research and practice and is designed to provide structured 446 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,600 support to meet career artists and curators to help them 447 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,000 advance to the next stage in their careers. 448 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,160 So this one is almost slightly different from the last one we 449 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,440 talked about. This one seems to be more more 450 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,800 how do you put it, more focused, more technically? 451 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,200 I don't know if technically is the right word, but it seems 452 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240 like it has a lot. The Fellowship will take the 453 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,200 form of lectures, so it's definitely more serious if 454 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,400 there's lectures involved. Introduction to performance art, 455 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000 public art and concept in sculpture, exploring theories 456 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,760 and advancements in curatorial practice in person and online 457 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,960 presentations by guest artists, cultural practitioners and 458 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,400 various thought leaders from Kenya and abroad. 459 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,880 Which is pretty cool. I'd like to know who those are 460 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720 actually. Group discussions, group 461 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,160 discussions, taking me back to my college days where I'm having 462 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,080 flashbacks, writing workshops, one-on-one mentorship sessions 463 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:05,720 and consultation and more. Man in a possible road trip to 464 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,040 Kampala, Uganda. So if you have been looking, if 465 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,320 you're if you're a mid career artist who has been looking for 466 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,520 an opportunity to go to Uganda, this is, this is definitely, 467 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,600 yeah, it is. So there's a structure, yeah. 468 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,400 I mean it's not, it's not, it's not too it's not, it's not, it's 469 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,040 not too stringent like much you have to be available for two 470 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,920 weeks April, one week, June, one week, August 2 weeks. 471 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,120 So like it's it's it's flexible. But like it's definitely looks 472 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:40,920 like it's it's whatever it's. You have to dedicate that at 473 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520 least like a portion of. Your time, yeah, for sure. 474 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,760 It's definitely time. It's requests, some of that. 475 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,640 So how you'd apply for this? And of course you can, you can, 476 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,200 you can go and check the requirements and everything at 477 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,840 the Goat Goate Institute. I'm sure they have, they have it 478 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,040 there. And also the article is on the 479 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,920 musicinafrica.net, so you can find that there, but we're just 480 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:09,280 highlighting it so how you could apply for that you you apply in 481 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,960 various documents. So I think there's three 482 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080 documents that you need. The first document this you need 483 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,200 to describe your current body of work and how it fixed fits into 484 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,880 your larger artistic practice And then your vision and and the 485 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,120 goals that you have document to your bio and your statement and 486 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:33,280 it's really important. Over the over the holidays I was 487 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,800 looking to write a bio and you think that it's a very simple 488 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,400 for there's people on on on on Spotify who don't really take 489 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000 that serious and they just like put a :) or something but then 490 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200 writing a goodbye is super important because that's like 491 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,840 that's like the the it's like one of the introductions to how 492 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,800 you think as an artist and and and what you want to know. 493 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,920 So that's really cool. And then the documents three is 494 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600 your portfolio. So I'm guessing what you've done 495 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,560 it could so I mean it could links websites social media and 496 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,520 and your artist buyers and motivators. 497 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,720 So yeah, that's it's, I mean this is a really cool 498 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960 opportunity. It's an opportunity to to to 499 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,280 sorry before I mention that. So again you can check the 500 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,080 details on on on the website Got, got, got Institute. 501 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,520 I keep saying that. Wrong. 502 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,040 And then Sam, what's the the monetary like benefit? 503 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,680 The monetary benefit. Did they mention? 504 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Did they mention? Oh yeah, I think they did. 505 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Each artist will receive a stipend of 10,000 Kenya 506 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,400 shillings per month for a period of 10 months and a total 507 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840 material research budget of 25,000. 508 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,720 Which, yeah, I mean, it's decent. 509 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,000 And this will also include a library membership card to allow 510 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,600 access to the Go To Institute Art books collection. 511 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,720 Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. 512 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,360 I mean, I mean any amount of money as an artist could be used 513 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,200 well, so. Yeah, and and the time, time, 514 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,760 time, time you're supposed to submit this. 515 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Oh yeah, shortlisted applicants will be contacted, be before 516 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:20,240 12th February and you can send in your application anytime 517 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,880 before the 28th of January. So you have about two weeks for 518 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,840 both applications essentially. So yeah, yo, me, I'm just trying 519 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,080 to see all of the, you know, artists like win and if you you 520 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,400 guys think any of these open calls and grants like apply, 521 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,360 then you should definitely look into them for sure and see if 522 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,000 they're thing that you for sure. Participate and shout out to the 523 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,480 to the Institute, man, this is. Not to stay, stay supportive. 524 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,440 They stay. Some might say they're the 525 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200 goats. Anyway, that was horrible. 526 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:04,840 So anyway, and you're the one who said Sam, you're the same 527 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,120 person who said that. I'm the one who always leaves a 528 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,440 silence after like. Oh, I'm sorry. 529 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,400 No, no, no, honestly, I didn't mean to do the same I'm trying 530 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,960 to do. They just did the same thing to 531 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,360 me. Why'd you say that? 532 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,400 You know, The thing is, you've been knowing that you're saying, 533 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:25,720 is this, this wild, wild, out of pocket statements that have 534 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,880 humor attached to them. But. 535 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,200 That wasn't wild and that wasn't out of pocket. 536 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,120 Just cringe. Blowing things out of 537 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,520 proportion? Come on, it's 2024. 538 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Anyway, OK so Sam, there was an article I saw that was actually 539 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,560 very interesting that I wanted to get your opinion on. 540 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,680 So, so there was an article about global music streams 541 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,920 hitting about 4 trillion streams in in 2022. 542 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Three. And by global they essentially 543 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,560 mean like what they call Latin music. 544 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,840 Well, no, what they call world music. 545 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,920 And then also Latin music and world music includes J. 546 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Pop. K Pop, Afrobeats, we're all 547 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,200 thrown in the same genre because, like, yeah, I. 548 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,320 Don't understand you guys. Afrobeat. 549 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,480 I kind of understand, but K pop and J Pop feels like it 550 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,960 shouldn't be in that. World music. 551 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,080 The rest of the world, outside of the Western cultures, 552 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600 essentially, is what's what's. Shout out to. 553 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Them anyway, so the the all of these genres have in in have 554 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,720 experienced rapid increases in growth, especially streaming 555 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,880 eyes, which is good news especially for us because it 556 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,640 means our music is being consumed way more in the global 557 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,960 village that we live in. There's some statistics about 558 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480 how Calm Down by Rehma and Selena. 559 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,240 Selena Gomez has just done like huge, huge numbers and 560 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,680 everything. The fifth most consumed song in 561 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,120 the US, which is ridiculous. Honestly, it's. 562 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,560 Crazy 4.8 million song sales and on demand streams And then the 563 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040 This report also shows that Afrobeats slash Afro Pop was the 564 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,800 9th largest growing genre in the US, Just over 2 billion. 565 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:23,640 Yeah, growing genre. The top three genres in the US 566 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,200 are Rock, hip hop and R&B with rock surpassing 15 whatever. 567 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,920 But the most the the interesting thing I saw in this article was 568 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:38,360 so the the SO all the data was compiled by Luminate, and 569 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Luminate usually does a year end report that that usually 570 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,240 highlights just the music industry. 571 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,600 And. All the exactly. 572 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,440 Regions. So it's a very detailed, very 573 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,960 detailed, informative report. It's pretty cool. 574 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,920 And OK, so one thing about these reports, so even if we're 575 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,920 looking at the IFPI report and Luminate, like one thing about 576 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,080 these reports that it's always frustrating is that there's a 577 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,400 very limited coverage of African music. 578 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560 Usually they'll they'll do a thing where they'll they'll 579 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,520 bunch, they'll bunch the Middle East and North African countries 580 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,160 together and call them the MENA region. 581 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,680 Then they'll bunch the sub-saharan African countries 582 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,040 together. And then usually they'll they'll 583 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640 target South Africa and Nigeria and. 584 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,320 A stand forms of standards. Yeah, and and usually it's a bit 585 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,000 frustrating because it's like, damn, I just. 586 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 I. Just want to know what's 587 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,520 happening in Congo, bro, What's? Yeah, like what? 588 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200 What are people in Benin consuming like? 589 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,920 Would be dope to know, you know what I mean? 590 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:56,240 But so, So there's just a small snippet where Kenya gets some 591 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:03,080 like coverage and this on this Luminate report and I found it 592 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,040 interesting. It's very small, but I wanted to 593 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,520 get your opinion. So they say there is a 99% 594 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,280 overall streaming penetration among all music listeners in 595 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,120 Kenya. I've been trying to figure out 596 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,760 what. I mean by that what that 597 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,159 statement means, because that will dictate what they're trying 598 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,440 to say. It's got a good. 599 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,920 Yeah, Google. But anyway, they also while some 600 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,480 Googles. So they also said the top music 601 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:38,840 discovery methods in Kenya are via social media, television and 602 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,080 streaming services, which is interesting because I I thought 603 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,679 radio would be part of that because I think radio is still 604 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:50,840 very, very big in the music industry in Kenya. 605 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,040 That's actually that's pretty interesting. 606 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,320 Sorry, we will get back to that. Streaming, streaming penetration 607 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,200 basically means the amount of the population streaming. 608 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,000 So that's really, honestly what it is. 609 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440 What? So 99% of our population is 610 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,480 streaming. That seems 99. 611 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,360 That doesn't seem right, does it? 612 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,600 That doesn't. What? 613 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,480 How? What population are they talking 614 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,400 about? Are they talking about the 615 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,160 entire country? I think they're talking about, 616 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,920 oh, OK, OK. I think they're talking about 617 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,280 because it's this is the overall streaming penetration among all 618 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,200 music listeners. OK, makes sense among music 619 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,760 because I was thinking that there's definitely. 620 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,440 So it's among the music, no? That's really good. 621 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,520 That's super high. That's almost 100%, of course. 622 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,840 It is. I mean, it is, man. 623 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960 So yeah, so they're saying the top music discovery methods are 624 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,920 social media, TV and streaming. I don't know. 625 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,560 I found that interesting because I thought radio would be part of 626 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:57,040 that. But if you're a music creative 627 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,560 or create or, yeah, now you're looking at social media, that's 628 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,520 that's a big one. Streaming services, that's a big 629 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,800 one. Social media, I think in 630 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,160 streaming services they'll also even include like YouTube and 631 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,120 all that stuff. Then this was the interesting 632 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,280 statistic. So if you look at Nigeria, the 633 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,560 the, the, the top music discovery methods are social 634 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,000 media, TV and friends slash relatives, which is interesting. 635 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,640 OK, but then. That's interesting to put. 636 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,480 Inside. I know, that's so interesting. 637 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,920 Like, yeah. But then they said the top local 638 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,440 genre in Nigeria is Afrobeats, big surprise there. 639 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,200 And then top foreign genre is Blues. 640 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,480 But now you look at the Kenyan industry, our top local genre is 641 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,240 Kenyan gospel and our top foreign genre is Christian slash 642 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,800 gospel music. And I wanted to know what do you 643 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,240 think about that? In my mind it it makes sense. 644 00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:03,320 I think gospel music has, it has an area of crossover. 645 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,800 So a lot of the people who who listen to not now not gospel, 646 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,160 but they listen to the the, how do you say it's the rest, What's 647 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,040 what's the other, the other genres, the other genres of 648 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,040 music, A lot of them, let me say a lot of them, but some of them 649 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,560 would listen to gospel. So there's that crossover. 650 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,400 Yeah, actually. No, there's crossover on both 651 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,400 sides, if you think about it. But it just goes to show how big 652 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,640 gospel music is and the gospel in the that's why you always see 653 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,080 all the artists like the life cycle of an artist is you come 654 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,040 up, you're popping, then you decide I'm going to go into. 655 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,760 Gospel. And then they decide they're 656 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,720 going to go back. That's. 657 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,440 Oh yeah. That's true, but that's that's 658 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,000 really interesting. It would be cool to see. 659 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,360 Now there's now this is just my thoughts. 660 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,000 OK, this is just from from my brain. 661 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,600 It'd be interesting to see parallels of So like with gospel 662 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,360 music, a lot of the times gospel music tends to imitate. 663 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,240 I won't say here in Kenya, I'm just looking at the gospel music 664 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,360 in general, but sometimes gospel music tends to imitate what's 665 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,800 happening. So it'd be interesting to see 666 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,360 like gospel like like Ganga tone and gospel, you know, like 667 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,160 what's happening on the other side. 668 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,480 I don't think we see that currently here. 669 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:28,760 I think gospel music has its own concentrated sound and and all 670 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,040 that stuff. So it'd be it'd be interesting 671 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,000 to see if because the the data is saying that that's that's the 672 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,480 largest, right. So it'd be interesting to see 673 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,920 more, let me just put it simply, more imitation, more, more, more 674 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,960 exploration of the gospel genre outside of what we already know 675 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,640 it to be. But that's. 676 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,280 I don't know, man. That's really interesting. 677 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,960 Essentially what Sam is saying is he's trying to get into the 678 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,000 gospel game and he wants to make more relatable stuff to him so 679 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,480 that he can, you know? He. 680 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,840 Can also participate. OK. 681 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,720 I would, I would highlight that that's not First off that's not 682 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,000 what I was trying to say. I'm just saying that it will be 683 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,360 interesting to see because gospel, all I'm saying is that 684 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,200 gospel seems to have like, you know when someone says the 685 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,800 gospel song, you seems to have like specific sounds so good to 686 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520 see in Kenya. That's what I'm saying. 687 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,840 Some wants to make trap beats and still make it gospel. 688 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,520 That's not what I'm trying. All right, you know what? 689 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,840 You win. You win. 690 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,120 What else? Please. 691 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,400 Listen Charlotte to Lubidate for this interesting insight. 692 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,600 Best believe. No, no, not best belief. 693 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,000 I was going to say best belief. We've got to start making gospel 694 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,760 tracks. None of that. 695 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,840 But it's just interesting, it's it's interesting insight into 696 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,920 the Kenyan music industry and I'd like to see way more like 697 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,440 detailed data on the Kenyan music. 698 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,360 Industry like actual like numbers, not percentages. 699 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,200 It's. Always so limited and we only 700 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,640 have these small snippets to hang hang on to and just kind of 701 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,400 like you know so yeah yeah man was there anything else in the 702 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,640 news that caught your caught your. 703 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,240 Eye not much let me see there was there was something else. 704 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:16,680 So last last year we had talked about, we had talked about the, 705 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,760 I mean there was a big Hoo ha from Spotify talking about 1000, 706 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:27,520 a thousand year 1000 year 1000 plays or fewer, 1000 plays or 707 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,920 fewer won't be getting monetized, which is interesting. 708 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,560 I feel like they should have put it at 999 because 1000 seems 709 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,640 like. So sorry digressing. 710 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,200 So they have a few number statistics for us just to put it 711 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,680 in perspective. So last year they said 712 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,920 158,000,000 tracks, so 158,000,000 individual pieces of 713 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,880 Sonic art had. How many 100 and? 714 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,840 58 million, so that's 158 with six zeros at the end of it. 715 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,960 I think had fewer than had 1000 plays or fewer on music 716 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,680 streaming services last year and which is a huge number honestly. 717 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,760 And then 45,000,000 had no plays at all. 718 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,200 So this would be, this would be 45,000,000 being songs that are 719 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,080 already existing on the platform and I guess new songs that have 720 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,840 been uploaded, which is a hard fit to like. 721 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640 I would think that even if as an artist, if you upload your song, 722 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,160 please listen to it once, just put it on play and go out and 723 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,200 you know, But yeah, so that just validates. 724 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,800 So the the whole thing was about them not paying out artists who 725 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,280 don't reach that $1000 a 1000 play threshold, right? 726 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:49,000 And I've just done some quick maths and look, Spotify pays out 727 00:41:49,000 --> 00:42:00,080 on average about 0.003 to 0.005 dollars of per per stream per. 728 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,840 Stream. Which is crazy. 729 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:09,160 So that would mean with this 158,000,000 streams that get to, 730 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,800 they don't really get to around about 1000 plays. 731 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:21,840 It means that the money that's now going to be redirected from 732 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,480 those people who are making music that doesn't reach those 733 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:33,440 thresholds will be round about between $474,000 to $790,000 as 734 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,280 the upper limit if you do the maths. 735 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,600 So that's interesting, but that's significant. 736 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,720 It is significant. It's, it's well, it's 737 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:45,520 significant. I feel like it's not that much 738 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:51,280 in terms of Spotify's overall revenue, but it's significant in 739 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,160 terms of and and and now plus the the 45,000,000 that didn't 740 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,040 you know and I guess for them their thought would be so the 741 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,000 songs haven't to put the songs up on Spotify, like there are 742 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,360 costs involved, right. So those songs according to them 743 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,040 aren't making money and it costs. 744 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,400 It costs, which is, I don't know whether that's that's where the 745 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,920 ground is tricky. But then it costs money to 746 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,600 maintain them on the servers and whatever it is and I'm pretty 747 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,240 sure some of those, some of that 400 or to 700 K could cause 748 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:27,760 cover this cause. Anyways, I don't know what's 749 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,520 happening. This is merely just speculation, 750 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,240 but it's really interesting. I didn't. 751 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,360 I honestly didn't think that the numbers would be that many like 752 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,280 158,000,000 tracks is a lot of tracks not to get up to 1000. 753 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,760 So yeah, I don't know. I just thought I found that that 754 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,600 interesting. I'll definitely look more into 755 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,400 that. I do feel like this funny stuff 756 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,760 have been happening with the numbers though. 757 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640 I don't know. Yeah, it's kind of. 758 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,800 Yeah, it's kind of interesting. Anyway, that's Spotify. 759 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,440 Spotify for. You Speaking of Spotify and new, 760 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:08,000 we we, you know, new music, bro. What was new that was tingling 761 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,400 your ear hairs, man? We don't like that statement. 762 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,960 Yeah, but you're the one who came up with that. 763 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,800 Was it me? I don't know if it is me. 764 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,320 Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, 765 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,840 let's see. Stella Wangi, formerly known for 766 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680 my lean on. STLST. 767 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,800 L released a song called Chalk that Chalk. 768 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,040 STL sounds like a STL. Sounds like a fire finisher, 769 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,120 like a WWE finisher. She just hit the STL. 770 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,760 The STL. Oh man, What? 771 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,920 Yeah, I did. I don't remember. 772 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,000 I don't remember. By God, he just hit the STL. 773 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,080 That's how Jr. would be like. You ever know Bro's name? 774 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,200 I forgot his name. His name is Jr. actually. 775 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,480 Yeah, Jr. Oh, man. 776 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,120 Jr. the King. Wait, no, there was Jr. and 777 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,000 there was Jerry the King. Whatever. 778 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,040 Anyway, sorry. Go ahead. 779 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,080 I remember Jerry Anyway STL released a song called Chalk 780 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,520 That talk it's it was interesting listen. 781 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,920 It's down her lane. Like she has a style of it's 782 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,280 like her music is very energetic. 783 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,200 Very, very. Yeah. 784 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,760 So. So it's. 785 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,320 For me, it's very nostalgic of like the year 2012. 786 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,120 Why specifically? I don't know. 787 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,800 It just gives me like if like if this this song is dope, but I'm 788 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,920 just saying like it. It's very reminiscent of that 789 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:38,600 period 2010 to 2011 twelve. Like the The Beat selection, 790 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,280 just like the vibe in which she's like projecting. 791 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,040 It's it's it's such a time capsule type of sound. 792 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:46,320 I fuck with it. I like it. 793 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160 It's it's it's interesting. She hit my ears. 794 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,960 Yeah, she's been, she's been releasing music for minutes. 795 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,360 So it's just that she's still putting our stuff. 796 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,040 She's a legend, yeah. Yeah. 797 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,160 I mean, there was, let's see, let's see, Boutros, Boutros 798 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,600 featured in the music releases twice. 799 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,920 So Charlotte to him is really, really putting in easy work as 800 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,560 we anticipate his new album, Teens. 801 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaking of boutros. Does come out. 802 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,320 It wasn't wasn't. It was just to get this right. 803 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,440 It was conscience who hopped on on the Anjali remix. 804 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,640 Right? Was it conscience? 805 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,560 Did Conscience Hop? I think so. 806 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,320 Was it, I think, was it Angela? You need to confirm that why I. 807 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,240 Just want to check because conscience has been. 808 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,280 Yes, it was. It was all right. 809 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,240 Sorry. Sorry for that. 810 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,320 Yeah. So conscience again. 811 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200 And one the Banton. Yeah, so Conscience again, he's 812 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,680 linked up with another Kenyan KRG, the Dawn for Time Bomb. 813 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:56,160 It's it's interesting how he's focusing on, I mean how he's 814 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,480 he's doing a bunch of collaborations with with Kenyan 815 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,600 artists. That's quite that's. 816 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,880 I wonder what they're thinking. What they're thinking is there. 817 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,920 Maybe he's just rocking with the Kenyan vibe. 818 00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:09,800 But yeah, so KRG, The Dawn featuring Conscious Time Bomb, 819 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:16,040 That was an interesting one. Yeah, so then though like we 820 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,880 said, The Butcher's, he's released a song called Feeling 821 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:25,040 as a feature he the artist is called Ediv I believe. 822 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,080 And then he also featured on the song Makam which was by 823 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:35,560 Kalamoto, Saru and Boutros. Then we talked about this 824 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,440 earlier. There was the major laser remix 825 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,080 from Waki Bro, Shout out to Sofia Anzar. 826 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,720 She's now like 1.9 million multi listeners. 827 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,200 Which is, Which is insane. It is. 828 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,320 And then I read a statistic saying that her song is now the 829 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,360 most like streamed Kenyan song in history or something like 830 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,160 that on Spotify. That's good to hear, man, I. 831 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,160 Like that there was something, there was a there was a 832 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,680 statistic like that because Marquis is now like 19,000,000 833 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,360 please. Yeah, so bro, Sophie Anzhou is 834 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,760 having the time of her life, and I hope that she really seizes 835 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040 this opportunity. I was telling Sam, I just hope 836 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,880 Martin Garrix is somewhere plotting and being like I just 837 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,840 need to fly her out here to the Netherlands to make me. 838 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,800 Yeah, yeah, that's that's me. For me, that's my dream to see 839 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,960 Sophie and Zao. Your dream Your dream is Sophie 840 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,320 and Zao and Martin Garrix make music. 841 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:42,680 Yeah, that's my dream. Or in most Spotify related wins, 842 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:49,440 TG Black was put as the face of the Fresh Finds hip hop. 843 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,760 She's super dope, man. Which is super dope. 844 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,360 She's super. Big man. 845 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,080 That's a playlist that has like over 200,000 like likes and 846 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,240 shit. So Charlotte to TG and her team, 847 00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:04,280 man, they're doing bids, man. Like, that's actually very 848 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,640 insane. So shout out to TD. 849 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:13,000 But bro, for me, the song that stood out this week was by my 850 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000 girl Magana. Let's get away. 851 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,240 Did you listen to that? That was it was a it was a cool 852 00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:18,160 song. It was a cool song. 853 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,240 I was I I've not really listened to her music before as much. 854 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,800 I mean, I might have heard her name once, twice. 855 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,080 But yeah, this was really cool, man. 856 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,960 Some nice, very, very cool unbeat vibes. 857 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,320 I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. 858 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,000 Yeah, so, I know. So, so let me, OK, listen, I'm 859 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,240 doing this for the content guys. Listen, this is how much I fuck 860 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:45,520 with you guys, so I'm going to give you guys an insight into 861 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,520 the behind the scenes. So I actually knew about Magana. 862 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,680 Like a while ago she released a song, I believe it was called 863 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,200 Drifting like way back in 2018. And I believe I heard it in 2019 864 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,280 and I reached out to her. So, so this is like, like, when 865 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,800 you're a producer, what you do is you find some artists and 866 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,520 they're really exciting and then you just hit them up. 867 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,400 So I was like, because, you know, I saw the release and I 868 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,760 was like, Magana. That name is so familiar. 869 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,440 And I was like, wait, I know Magana? 870 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,120 And then I was like, yo, I actually hit her up way back in 871 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,120 the day. And I still have the DMS. 872 00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,800 So this is how this is how it usually goes. 873 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you guys like my DMS? 874 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,640 This is how young afam? Young. 875 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,360 Well, young, I say. Well. 876 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,880 Relatively, yeah. Four young compared. 877 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,960 To 4 1/2 year? Yeah, exactly. 878 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,200 So 4 1/2 year AFAM wait. 4 1/2 year ago. 879 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,600 AFAM in the past that makes. The That's a lovely way to see 880 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,840 what you're trying to say. Read the DMS man. 881 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,040 Let's see, Let's see what? Let's see what AFAM was cooking. 882 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,840 So or he was cooking in the. AFAM listens to drifting. 883 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,160 He's like, yo, this is fine, this crazy. 884 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,720 And then he's like, hey, what's up? 885 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,760 My name's AFA Mephena. I'm a producer from Nairobi and. 886 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,600 I'm like no that's came across yourself let me let me let me 887 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,120 let me let me grade your your I think the intro is the interest. 888 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,240 I'll give the intro a good it's a strong, it's a strong, it's a 889 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:13,240 strong, strong leading. Very simple, to the point. 890 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:15,720 No out of 10 this. Is who I am and this is who I am 891 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:16,960 and this is what I do. Out of 10. 892 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,040 I'm going to say your injuries are solid. 893 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,880 Let's go with a safe 7, because seven is always a safe number. 894 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,640 When you're doing out of 10 Safe 7, Safe 7. 895 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,440 Now establishing why I'm in the I came across your song Drifting 896 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,480 and I fuck with it every keep your e-mail. 897 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,240 I sent you something I'd love to work with you That was that. 898 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,120 That's it. That's, that's that's really, 899 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,160 that's what I said. OK, so and then do you want to 900 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,480 read that section or I'm thinking about, I'm thinking. 901 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,720 About about a reading. So So I would give that. 902 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:57,960 I would give that AA56. I'm not too fond of of peep. 903 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,120 I'm not too fond of peep. As you're introducing yourself, 904 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,440 I feel like maybe if you use more professional words you 905 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,280 could possibly garner more attention. 906 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,920 Check out your e-mail. Check out your e-mail is so 907 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,240 generic. Or check your e-mail so. 908 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,160 Peep. So Peep shouldn't be the 909 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,400 replaced. All right? 910 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,880 Cool, cool. You know what You You're back at 911 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,120 your Safe 7. That's what you are. 912 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,040 You're back at your Safe 7. So Magana replies. 913 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,600 And she's so nice. She's like, hey, nice to meet 914 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,880 you. And then she's like, thank you. 915 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,880 So thank you so much and OK, I'll definitely check my e-mail 916 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,680 a little bit later and I'll let you know. 917 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:39,400 Sparkle emoji fire by this. That's how you like to that's 918 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,200 that's that's how you reply to pesky little producers like 919 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,240 myself. Then I said, I'm pretty sure 920 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,200 that this is where I was. I was bothering into the cringe. 921 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,480 I was like, I'm pretty sure I'll end up sending a bunch of beats 922 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,800 before we find in brackets the one and then I put a bunch of 923 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,640 ellipses and then I was like, but I figure at least let's open 924 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,560 this conversation and work towards creating something dope. 925 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,200 That was the last thing that I said and that we said in general 926 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,960 in on in 2019 and. We that last that year that 927 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,680 progressed. Yeah, that last message might 928 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,920 have scared of. Why are we saying we before we 929 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,320 find like you're already working together, take me to your mind 930 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,280 your your thought process. Yes, take me to your thought 931 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,360 process. That's a solid 5. 932 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,400 That's a solid 4-5, by the way. No, I'm a high volume producer 933 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,160 like and by that I mean I produce a lot. 934 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,920 But like I everything I produce won't be great. 935 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,080 You do not. Yeah. 936 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,480 Yeah. So when I'm working with. 937 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,200 Everyone's struggle. No, there's some people who like 938 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,520 all this shit they produce is really fire for me. 939 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,200 But that's the thing. Something is something is fire 940 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,840 to anyone. So you don't think it's fire. 941 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,440 But then there's probably someone who will listen to all 942 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,920 your beats and say bro, if I'm so one, so. 943 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,760 Anyway, that being said, I the bit I sent her probably wasn't 944 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,440 great. I'm pretty sure it wasn't great 945 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,680 so which is why I didn't get a response back. 946 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,040 And that's fine like this. Like bro, I mean I totally 947 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,000 understand, but there's so many times I send dads to people. 948 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,520 But I I what it is, it's just interesting. 949 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,680 It's just interesting that like the whole because, you know, I 950 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,320 saw the name and I was like wait, I know this name from 951 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,920 Summer. So I was like, bro, it's so 952 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,360 funny like I actually DM D her like way back. 953 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,400 But for me personally that was the Best Song that came out this 954 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:33,640 this week. Like I know she's she's so she's 955 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,440 grown up like in Nairobi, like she's she's grown up here in in 956 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,920 Kenya like all her childhood. I know in her bio it states that 957 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,240 she's you. Her parents are Uganda and 958 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,160 Tanzanian, but I feel like yo bro, we listen. 959 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,640 She's Kenyan like we like. She's like bro, like I've 960 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,880 experienced her, like in the Kenyan. 961 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,200 Scene like. You. 962 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,520 I wouldn't have known she was she wasn't Kenyan if I didn't 963 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,760 read the bio. Because like, even back then, 964 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,640 like her music, like it was just, yeah. 965 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:16,040 So Sam, if you would allow me, would you? 966 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,720 Yeah, sure you would. Let's play Magana. 967 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,800 Let's play Magana. I'm just thinking of the day 968 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,080 where I say, no, I'm not allowing you. 969 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,720 How is that going to go? I've gotta play exactly. 970 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:38,240 This is just polite, but yeah, yo, listen. 971 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,800 Shout out to Magana for getting back into the game and releasing 972 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,360 music after so long. But yo, here is her 973 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:50,760 reintroduction. So this is Let's Get Away by 974 00:55:50,760 --> 00:56:06,840 Magana. The 975 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:31,080 I'm trying to stay. Trying to sleep, trying to 976 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,400 sleep. It's time to go swallow. 977 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,280 Hesitation. Does discretion off your 978 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,480 clothes. Trying to find my way back to a 979 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,200 place that I don't know for life so I can see it. 980 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:45,680 Every time we touch a water tends to calm these ways we do a 981 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,080 lamp as matches play. I remember when our uniform 982 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:57,640 these mum, looks over God. So won't you go travel down this 983 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:04,280 road on my own? Believe me. 984 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,920 Tell me here's your dad and done so well with us. 985 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:12,840 Say you're mine. No need to fantasize us and all 986 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,880 the way we can find a baby. It's jumping the pace at this, 987 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:45,920 holding bags inside the slave I now we're dashing past the 988 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,680 floodlights. All this tension and design, 2 989 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,320 broken bodies, breaking wind and breathing fire. 990 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,240 A feet beat on the pavement, a hot speed OverDrive, just as I 991 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,720 think will make it. That's when you turn to me 992 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:03,160 that's such a salty. I smell with salty beats and 993 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:08,280 that's when I feel someone, not you or me, just lurking and I 994 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,600 talk. You cry and I feel the strike 995 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,760 Shots of joy emerge from behind a holes in my side. 996 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,480 You stare going to palm your pale, your conscious wagging on. 997 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,440 So why don't you let me see your face? 998 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,840 Why don't you let me see your eyes. 999 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,280 Keeping my eyes, you stare your reflection there, you fool, 1000 00:58:32,440 --> 00:59:08,360 smile to my heart None. 1001 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,120 That was Let's Get Away by Magana again. 1002 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,840 Shout out to her the production and that was sick. 1003 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,920 Very cool. Vibes Alex Isley, esque. 1004 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,040 Like I really loved the production. 1005 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,760 I wish there was a production credit on the Spotify because I 1006 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,720 I really want to know who made that beat because let me see if. 1007 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,080 You can do social media. Let me see. 1008 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,440 Maybe this time don't you speak. Maybe this time keep away from 1009 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:01,760 peep. Find something else to say. 1010 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,680 It only, Oh yeah. Oh, so it was produced by Dream 1011 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,160 Life Beats. So she gives credits on her 1012 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,400 socials. So it's produced by Dream Life 1013 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,160 beats, I don't know, Dream Life's Dream Life. 1014 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,800 Oh, dream life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1015 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,720 OK, Sir. And then it was mixed by a 1016 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:26,200 person called Micah Wyatt. Shout out to the both of. 1017 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,840 You. Oh, Micah Wyatt seems to be in 1018 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,240 high demand because I can see here that Zinnia also follows 1019 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,560 Micah, so I guess he's a good mixologist. 1020 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,160 But yeah, shout out to Magana and. 1021 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,600 Yeah, shout out to him. I'm saying. 1022 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,520 I'm saying shout out to them. Shout out to them the. 1023 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,200 Yeah, shout out to Yeah, but Sam, there goes another episode 1024 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,440 59, the episode of Abundance and success and just prosperity. 1025 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,160 Listen guys, if you listen to this podcast, if you spent time 1026 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,640 with Sam and I for this hour just listening to us, just know 1027 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,440 that your week will be full of abundance, to prosperity and to 1028 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,680 success. Actually, not just your week. 1029 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,920 Your whole. Entire. 1030 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,280 Life, right? Your generations, your future 1031 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,360 generations, or even up to the 10th up to the 10th generation. 1032 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,160 Listen. Your generations wouldn't even 1033 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,080 know. But just because you listened to 1034 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,240 episode 59, the blessings that they have, they stem from this. 1035 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,360 They stem like this is the inception of all those. 1036 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,840 That's a fact. So. 1037 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,600 That's a fact. Shout out to you and your future 1038 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,960 generation. Shout out to all of you guys 1039 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,400 like we really do. But. 1040 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,200 Yeah, Sam, unless you have anything else that you wanted 1041 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,880 to. To say. 1042 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,080 In fact, do not. Oh, OK, go ahead. 1043 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,800 Oh, you faked all of us for me? I was actually taking you. 1044 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,440 Serious. Sorry, but but thank you for 1045 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,720 listening, man. Thank you for listening. 1046 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,360 Thank you for. You did the podcast equivalent 1047 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:59,560 of doing a Step Over But. Hey, listen, it's been great. 1048 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:00,680 It has. It has. 1049 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,080 Shout out to you guys and yo, the next episode is the big 1050 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,920 episode 60. We're really moving up there. 1051 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,400 We're. Now 66, we can't. 1052 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,240 Even say we're middle-aged anymore. 1053 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,200 Some like we're reaching into the twilight years. 1054 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,800 No, let me not say that. That's not good. 1055 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:21,480 But like we're yo, if you know what, in 2024 we're doing 1056 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,000 shorter outros. So guys. 1057 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,880 Thank you for listening. We'll catch you on everything 1058 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,400 60. Thank you for listening. 1059 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,080 Exactly. Goodbye.