1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,400 Because what am I going to do, sit down and listen to? 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,840 Yeah, you can listen to how the the the notes how the the the 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:13,280 the yeah you look you can't even you can't even continue your BS 4 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,520 the yo what's up? And welcome to episode 53 of the 5 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:03,400 30% podcast hosted by yours truly, AFAM and my Fantabulous 6 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,319 Co host Sam, Sam. What's up? 7 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,560 What's going on? How you doing man? 8 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,360 You good? I am tired. 9 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,720 You're tired. Me, I'm tired, Sam. 10 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,480 Gypsy. I hope you gin. 11 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,240 I'm tired, Sam. I hope you can find some energy 12 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,520 to get through this podcast. Which people, by the way, you 13 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,000 guys can find this podcast on Instagram. 14 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,160 No. What am I saying? 15 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,360 You can find this podcast on Spotify. 16 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,800 You can find this podcast on Apple podcast. 17 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,600 You can find it on Google Podcast. 18 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,120 You can find it on Spotify. And you can also find it on 19 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,640 YouTube. You can find our social media 20 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,960 handles on Instagram, on Twitter, on threads, on 21 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,040 LinkedIn, as well as X. And that's going to be the 30% 22 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,640 pod on all of. Those I can confirm. 23 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,040 Sam. Sam, how was your week, man? 24 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,720 How was my week? It was. 25 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,560 It was good. It was good. 26 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,280 I don't remember, honestly. I honestly don't remember beef 27 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,360 anything before Thursday last week. 28 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,280 This week, what week are we in? I just read the What Week. 29 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,840 OK, man, I was so confused. But yeah, it was it was good. 30 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,200 It's very productive, very tiring, I think. 31 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,320 I have not slept regularly since Thursday last week. 32 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,000 I've been involved in some video shoots, which we're not allowed 33 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,960 to talk about, unfortunately. But yeah. 34 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,200 No. So I've been doing that, been 35 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,560 doing some scoring, been in the studio, creating. 36 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,840 It's been like back-to-back creativity, man. 37 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,560 It's it's, it's it's crazy. But yeah, that's it. 38 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,720 Very tired. Very, very, very happy to be 39 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,640 here, man. It's good. 40 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,240 It's good. How are you, Fireman? 41 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,320 What you been up to? I'm. 42 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Hey, I'm good. I mean, you know what I was up 43 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,880 to on Thursday For sure. We have something special for 44 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,080 you guys. Oh, snap. 45 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,560 Coming very, very soon. That's what I am. 46 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,320 I forgot about that. Yeah, this is a this is a 47 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,400 monument Monumentous occasion for the podcast. 48 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:15,440 Because there's some things, yeah, we've we're doing 49 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,240 something that we've never done before. 50 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,640 Yeah. So this is going to be an 51 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:24,760 exciting thing for you guys at least. 52 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:33,480 But yeah, that is going to be in your zones and in your media 53 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,720 devices very, very soon. But yeah, yeah, yeah. 54 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,640 So yeah, we a very good, very exciting, very, yeah. 55 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,120 Monumentous. Very monumentous, yes. 56 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,480 Yeah. So, so yeah, so that was my 57 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,120 Thursday. But other than that, man, I've 58 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,360 been really creative. I've been really churning out 59 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,280 the beats. I've been making a lot of music. 60 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,320 I'm just trying to work on as much music as I can before the 61 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,320 year ends and just try and collaborate with as much people 62 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,000 as I can. Speaking of November, bro, yeah, 63 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,360 it's already the end of November. 64 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,480 But Speaking of collaborations, I got a placement recently. 65 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,800 So fire I was on. Yeah, I was on Sabu's tape. 66 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,440 Really. Yeah. 67 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Yeah, yeah. I I produced, I produced a song 68 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:29,880 with with with Sabi Wu and Swahili Papi, and then it's 69 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,240 called Marengo Kashmani. And then the second-half of the 70 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,120 song, I think, I believe was produced by Cap and FK Beats. 71 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,760 OK. All right. 72 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,520 All right. Yeah. 73 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,560 But I wasn't. Listen, I wasn't. 74 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,960 I didn't know that there was a Part 2 to the beat. 75 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,960 So it was also a surprise to me. That's fine. 76 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,800 They get you the placements. They're getting more placements 77 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,000 than me, though. I don't like it. 78 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Oh, yeah. Yeah, bro, I'm trying to listen. 79 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Well, I don't know about getting more placements than you, but 80 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,640 I'm really trying to scale up the amount of placements I get. 81 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:02,880 Yeah. Oh, I don't know if you don't 82 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,120 know what placements are. By the way, placements is what 83 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,000 we call when when a producer gets his songs on an album. 84 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,840 Essentially, that's what it is. Oh, with an artist. 85 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,360 Oh, with an artist, it's not not only an album, Yeah, with an 86 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,160 artist. So, and that's like some that's 87 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,840 a lot of producers. Goals like I want to get 88 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:20,360 placements with this person and this person. 89 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,880 There's thoughts about that, but that's one of the podcast. 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Yeah. So. 91 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,280 Yeah, man, that's cool, man. Congratulations. 92 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:28,880 Working, working, working. Congratulations. 93 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Yeah. Thanks, man. 94 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,400 I'm just trying to trying to get get the sounds out there as much 95 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,480 as possible. Nice. 96 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Nice. Yeah, As much as everything 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,160 else. What are you making now? 98 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,640 Today I've been making a bunch of Trap amid R and BI also made 99 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,160 a dance tune. So I'm making everything. 100 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,600 And then I also want to make I want to make a Ganga tone joint 101 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,600 afterwards after we record the podcast because I there's 102 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,240 there's an artist who I'm trying to work with. 103 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,320 Oh nice. Yeah, really busy. 104 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,480 Really busy man, really busy. There's no sleep for for the 105 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,920 weekend which makes me wicked. Anyway, I don't know what I'm 106 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,400 saying. So yeah. 107 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Sam, yo. Oh man, let's get into Well, 108 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,160 actually also this week has been interesting, an interesting time 109 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,840 for the podcast. Just a lot of feedback, which we 110 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,720 appreciate and stuff. Yeah, for sure. 111 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,200 So yeah, one thing, bro, one thing I'm learning about 112 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,040 podcasting is it's definitely a responsibility. 113 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,800 But I mean, you know, we're, we're, we are. 114 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:43,080 I think we are working towards, like, really getting ourselves 115 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,040 situated in this space, yeah and yeah. 116 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:50,080 I would say, I would say, I think I would say that this week 117 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:56,160 has has probably put into light like I said I think it's put 118 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,920 into light a greater responsibility in terms of just 119 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:04,680 being being. Careful is not the word being 120 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:12,120 more thoughtful about about going going about this whole 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,200 thing. Yeah just looking at both the 122 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,440 feedback that that what we from from the previous episode and 123 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,440 then also this week I've gotten a lot of feedback from other 124 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,040 people who've just who stumbled on the podcast and listened and 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,040 it's been like really good. So it's just it's. 126 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,560 For it's, it's. It almost puts it into 127 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,320 perspective now. So it's not it's I mean for us, 128 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,160 I don't think it's ever been. We're just sitting around and 129 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,120 talking. But it's it's interesting 130 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,400 because, like, it's so divisive because I've gotten an equal 131 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,440 part of people who are like, super, like, yo, thanks for like 132 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,480 last podcast, because that's, you know what I mean? 133 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,720 And then other people are like, why would you had differing 134 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,080 opinions? So it's it's it's very it's very 135 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,040 divisive. But that's podcasting anyway. 136 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,880 So Sam into the news man. So bro like recently. 137 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Now this is interest. This is an interesting 138 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,040 conversation to have, especially by two led by two very 139 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,160 introverted individuals who barely. 140 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Said the right people to talk about this, aren't we? 141 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we are absolutely the right people to 142 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,120 go outside. But listen, I I mean to go on 143 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,040 this topic, but I've been on SO you know me, I love TikTok. 144 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,840 So I've just been on TikTok a lot and I've been on Gabzi talk. 145 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,919 Like a lot of people have been posting tik toks about their 146 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:37,880 experience at Gabzi as well as tweets and everything. 147 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,960 And it's safe to say it was a shambles. 148 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,480 My general, no. Go ahead, go ahead. 149 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:49,600 I agree with you. Yeah, so, so the general, so the 150 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,160 general consensus from what I have seen on TikTok and Twitter 151 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,520 is that the event itself, like Gabzi and the people who 152 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,240 performed were not bad at all. Like they did their thing, but 153 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,520 everything surrounding the event organization was an issue. 154 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,720 Like like, brah, I've seen so many tweets about people saying 155 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,160 this was the first time they ever got tear gassed. 156 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,400 And then when I like, I remember I woke up and I saw somebody 157 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,120 saying that they got tear gas and I was like. 158 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Have you ever been tear gas before? 159 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,760 No, I haven't. Never. 160 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Oh man, it's not. It's no. 161 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,840 And I hope I don't. It's not good. 162 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,840 I hope I don't get tear gassed anytime in my life because bro 163 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,200 like people were like, yo, this is the first time I got tear 164 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,200 gas. It felt, it felt like I was in 165 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Mandamano, like people were like bro, like the some people were 166 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,680 saying that police were actually beating people. 167 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,680 So somebody claimed that they were shooting rubber bullets. 168 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,800 I was like, I was like what the hell is happening? 169 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,520 And then obviously there was the whole mud situation. 170 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,320 It was really muddy, so. It was, it was nice. 171 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,000 This time of the year is really weird for events, especially 172 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 because we don't have like, well, we do. 173 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,720 But then, some of the venues that artists choose are not 174 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:10,120 necessarily the most. What's the word I'm looking for? 175 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,760 The events that some of them can be very, very tricky in in that 176 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,320 aspect and so like when it's raining and there's mud all over 177 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,080 the place, it makes for a less enjoyable experience. 178 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,360 I do enjoy, however, I enjoyed TikTok in this aspect because I 179 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:32,400 think it gives us an adult an unadulterated view of of really 180 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,800 what's going on in terms of people's experiences. 181 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Like like, it's just really, really and really raw because. 182 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,160 People run with that kind of content on Tiktok, so I do 183 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,280 enjoy. I enjoy seeing that in Twitter 184 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,280 and all that business rather than getting it from polished 185 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,480 sources, you know? So that's pretty cool, Yeah. 186 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,440 But oh man, I didn't attend the show. 187 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,400 But yeah, I didn't. I mean, listen, I'm not going to 188 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,040 lie and I'm just going to come clean and brah, maybe this this 189 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,200 is not good for my brand as somebody who puts people onto 190 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,880 music. Oh yeah, my brand as somebody 191 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,160 who puts people onto music on TikTok. 192 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,400 I can't lie. I don't really know much about 193 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Gabzi. Like, for me, I was like because 194 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,080 everyone was like Gabzi, Gabzi. And I was like I have no idea 195 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,440 but like. Catalog Do you listen to him? 196 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,320 Dope. Oh, OK. 197 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,520 I've heard maybe one song, one or two songs from him, like some 198 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,480 of his songs that have done really well, but I've not really 199 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,160 paid that. I've had his name before but 200 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,120 I've not really paid. I thought Gabzi was a was a 201 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,520 female artist at some point but that was the same actually also 202 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,960 be that's very, very that's the same thing I did because like 203 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,360 bro, like even on Twitter a lot of people. 204 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,200 So before the event even happened like that was the main 205 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,880 discourse. Like we have no idea who Gabzi 206 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,680 is. A lot of people were like, yo 207 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:54,920 Kenyans. Kenyans will just go and support 208 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,760 like anyone or whatever, whatever. 209 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,120 So what Kenyans will go and support anyone? 210 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,280 What do you mean by that? That's what people were saying, 211 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:03,880 man. This. 212 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,240 I'd need to make it clear that's not what I am saying. 213 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,720 That's what people were saying. Kenyans will go and support 214 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,240 anyone. Why would you say that? 215 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Of course they would. But, but, but, but, so I I 216 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,120 looked at videos of him performing and people knew all 217 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,360 the words man like to his songs. So I was like obviously, 218 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,200 obviously he has like an established fan base and then I 219 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:33,600 think even the the people who were also performing essentially 220 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,600 carton raising for him also did well. 221 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:41,080 I heard Charisma AKA Luja Heat also had a very, very good set. 222 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Quinnote We know his class. Quinnote also performed. 223 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,440 I met I just really random, but I met Quinnote in the studio I 224 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,800 was working in on Thursday. Oh, really? 225 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,360 It was interesting fire. Yeah, I know. 226 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,960 Shout out to him did. Oh, nice. 227 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,360 That's random, but very nice. Very nice. 228 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Razor man, the sharp guy. That's so cheesy of me to say 229 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 that Razor man also just got. It Oh my goodness. 230 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,320 I found no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 231 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,880 Can't do like, yeah, I mean like a bunch of people performed and 232 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,080 it looks, it looks like it was lit. 233 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,680 But like, brah, apparently people were trying to like 234 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,360 really break into this to to the grounds. 235 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,760 So it was at carnival because no one is trying to pay. 236 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,440 I saw a funny tick talk about somebody saying they paid 3000 237 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:33,680 to enter Gabzi for free because I guess people pushed down the 238 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:37,200 barriers and just kind of forced their entry into the event. 239 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Let's let's To be honest, that must feel bad, doesn't it? 240 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,680 It it shouldn't feel bad. It shouldn't feel bad because 241 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,160 because you're not supposed to enter for free, right? 242 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,760 So no, you're not. But at the same time, it's like, 243 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,600 oh man, I paid for this. No, it's good pay, pay put, pay 244 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,040 up. Sorry, no, I shouldn't be 245 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,240 arguing supporting. I don't. 246 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,520 I don't condone that behaviour. Yeah. 247 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,320 But yeah, I mean and it's dangerous to be honest because 248 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,000 like you know people breaking into events and stuff is kind of 249 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,800 what led to like the yeah it it's what led to the disaster 250 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,960 that happened at Astro World ETCETC. 251 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,520 But like, so here's the main discourse. 252 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,120 The discourse is like events are kind of like being shortly 253 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,160 organized in the country. So this was organized by sounds 254 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,760 from Africa or air beat. Yeah. 255 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,920 And a lot of people have been saying the only event worth 256 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,480 attending in this country is Gondwana events. 257 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,320 I've heard, I've heard good things about, about, about that. 258 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Yeah. Yeah, I've heard good things 259 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,520 about because because they recently they had the joint 260 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,640 event with Kunye, which I find a very funny name. 261 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,600 Anyway, they had the joint event with Kunye and apparently that 262 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,200 one went very well. Like I had a lot of feedback 263 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,040 about the Kunye event that happened, like was it a month 264 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,720 ago or something. I know it's it's such a funny 265 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,640 word. Anyway, like I had a lot of 266 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,760 feedback about it and apparently it was really, really well 267 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,360 organized and stuff. People are also people are also 268 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,680 really saying. Make sure you check Gondwana. 269 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,760 I don't know the the specific people behind Gondwana. 270 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,040 If I'm honest, I'm barely outside so I I don't know the 271 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,720 people like, yeah, but Gondwana for sure, even blankets and wine 272 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,560 people are very happy about that event. 273 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,680 But listen, Sam, if we even list, if we even go through the 274 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,600 events that have happened in the past year and a half or not 275 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,560 happened, we saw Thames, the events. 276 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,800 Haven't happened. Yeah. 277 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,000 Like I was saying, bro, we saw, we saw Thames had to pull out 278 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,680 from her event. That was the end of 2022. 279 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,440 Yep. It left so many people 280 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,840 disappointed. Like, come on man. 281 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Like, man, we were. We were. 282 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,040 So we were cheated out of seeing Thames, which was honestly very 283 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,000 sad. And then recently this year we 284 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,400 saw, pardon Ruger. Is that where you're going? 285 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Yeah, Yeah, exactly. This year we saw Ruger had to 286 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,840 push back his event and then ultimately the second time 287 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,240 around have to cancel it like altogether. 288 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,920 And that was shocker. Shockers Festival. 289 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,200 I hope they, I hope they paid. I hope they refunded people 290 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,160 because that's the last thing they said and I don't think 291 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,800 they've posted anything ever since. 292 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:41,080 So that was 12 weeks ago. I hope people got their money so 293 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,400 we saw Rogas had to pull out. I don't. 294 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,160 Think they got them, but and then we've seen, we've seen 295 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Shancia. Shancia was supposed to come to 296 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,000 Kenya as well. She also pulled out and that was 297 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,280 also like a breakdown between the events organization and her 298 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,560 team. And then also in in events in 299 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:12,160 like events news like there's the popular event the wind down 300 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:18,480 which is like for the I think everybody knows this is an event 301 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:25,079 that's strictly for women and I suppose also non non binary 302 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,800 people. And it's like I remember like 303 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,240 maybe two months ago or three months ago on Twitter like there 304 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,000 was a popular DJ saying how she wasn't paid by the event 305 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,520 organizers for the wind down. And a lot of people were like in 306 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,160 support of her and saying yeah like we these guys are moving 307 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,400 shadily. So Sam like we've seen all these 308 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,800 things happen with events in this country. 309 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,120 And my question to you, I know this has been a very long 310 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,960 preamble, but my question to you is what's going on with events 311 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,520 in this country? And like what? 312 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,680 What can we do to get to a place where, like there can be some 313 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,880 semblance of trust between the fans and the event organizers? 314 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:19,080 And just like having a seamless, like, like just a seamless. 315 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:24,880 Production Seamless. Production Seamless, What's it 316 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,120 called? Experience. 317 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:27,400 Yeah. What? 318 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,080 What say you, man? What say I? 319 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:36,960 I say, I think I do feel like the event space could be facing 320 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,560 the problem. I think. 321 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,520 I think it's it's suffering from the same problem that that art 322 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,440 is suffering from in terms of the Kenyan space. 323 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,840 And this of course this is just my opinion but I feel like it's 324 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,520 it's it's the same thing. So Art has this. 325 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,000 We have we have an issue where a lot of the times. 326 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,160 No, that's not how I'm trying to. 327 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,160 That's not what I'm trying to say. 328 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:08,800 I think there's a lack of investment in art itself, I 329 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,160 think. I think how so? 330 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:17,920 I for OK, so how art function is you start, you start. 331 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,720 I mean like like let's say let's let's put music, let's say a 332 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,960 musician for example, right? You start with what you have. 333 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,520 It's low budget, it's everything, but it's what you 334 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,160 have. And then you essentially how how 335 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,760 we think it's supposed to work is from that you get fans, and 336 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,880 from that fans it brings you more money and then you put that 337 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,840 more money into the music and and work on getting. 338 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,240 So now you work on maybe going to a studio and creating. 339 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,080 From there. And then songs sound better, 340 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,200 there's a little bit more money for marketing, it goes out, 341 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,960 money comes back in, then you reinvest it into the art and 342 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,120 then you start working like big time producers and big time 343 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,880 engineers. And so it just keeps progressing 344 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,800 in terms of the quality. Of that I think, I think events 345 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,240 also function the same way. We've seen a lot of events that 346 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,280 are really smaller, but then they have like a good cult 347 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,600 following. But then it doesn't it it a lot 348 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,000 of them don't seem to go past that level. 349 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,360 I think, I think one of the major problems is just 350 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,480 investment. We lack investors in events in 351 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,280 order to put down a good show and it. 352 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,160 In my mind it's tied to the ticket pricing because that's a 353 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,720 very good indicator of of of the the public and the public 354 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,680 perception, right what they what they want. 355 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,720 So if let's say a ticket is 3000 shillings for a lot of Kenyans 356 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,920 and we talked about I don't know what episode that was but we 357 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,800 talked about the socio economic issues that could lead to some 358 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,400 of these decisions And some of these problems is 3000 shillings 359 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:58,560 might be a lot for for Leigh Canyon, like just to pay to go 360 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,320 for a show on a Friday night. Right now that's on the the the 361 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,160 consumer side. Now the people who are putting 362 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,560 the show together for them, they do need that money in order to 363 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,360 be able to make. Now we're talking, of course, 364 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,760 when I'm talking about this, I'm talking about people who are not 365 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,440 finessing, my guys who are actually taking the money and 366 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,120 putting it into a good show because there's a lot of 367 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:23,520 finessing going on. So they need that money to pay. 368 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,280 Now, if not, if, like it's if not many people are willing to 369 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,200 pay for a show, then, and I'm not saying that's a problem. 370 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,640 I'm not saying there's a problem on the kind of people. 371 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,880 I'm just saying that's what it is, right? 372 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,400 So if not many people are willing to pay for the show, 373 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,120 then that means the investors don't make as much or there's 374 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:45,520 not that anticipated or projected revenue from it which 375 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,840 they can't take to investors and say OK this is what we 376 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,200 anticipate and this is what project which now they don't get 377 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,200 the money and then they they're not able to put together show 378 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,720 that will be expensive. So it's almost like a it's a 379 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,440 what's what's it called? The Catch 22. 380 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,040 It's a It's a round trip of of nastiness. 381 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,680 It's a negative reinforcement loop, Yeah. 382 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,120 Yeah. So that's part of part of the 383 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,520 problems. I do think, yeah, for shows, I 384 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,080 mean, we'll talk about it. But for shows to get better, 385 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,640 there needs to be a concerted effort in. 386 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:19,720 Yeah, in in setting up concerts. That's absolutely terrible. 387 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,240 Sorry, I'm tired. That was a horrible pun. 388 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,240 But that's that. I also think the other problem 389 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,120 is sometimes I don't. I feel like we over here, we 390 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,360 just put together shows for putting together shows sake. 391 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,480 I think there could be more creativity in terms of the 392 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,000 shows. But now this is my opinion. 393 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,760 Take it to the grain of kosher salt, pink Himalayan salt if you 394 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,480 will. Yeah the people just put on 395 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 shows for show's sake. Like it's not it's not the 396 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,360 creativity and the the the uniqueness in like a show 397 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,760 shouldn't just be. Well, in my opinion, a show 398 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:02,560 shouldn't just be walking up to a venue and looking at an artist 399 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,040 dog sing their songs and then leaving. 400 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,720 I feel like there could be more it. 401 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Should be like more of an experience. 402 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,560 So it should be. It should be more of an 403 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,880 experience. So yeah, that there's a number 404 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,040 of things that go into it. Maybe people don't find shows 405 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,920 that important yet. Maybe. 406 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,600 I don't know. Yeah. 407 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,240 What do you think? Yeah. 408 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:26,000 And and honestly, I don't know like what we can do to like 409 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,440 improve the event space over here. 410 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,000 I I find it curious as to why all these big artists kept on 411 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,360 pulling out, but the only thing it can be is finances, right? 412 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,880 I think the events organizers are like playing a game where 413 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,480 they because even the guys for Shoke Shoke, they said they were 414 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,560 they used the money they got from the early bird tickets to. 415 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Like kind of supplement what they had to pay Ruger and all 416 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,760 that type of stuff. Yeah. 417 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,600 So it's like they don't have like investment outside of that 418 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480 because that's risky. It's like you're you're relying 419 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,120 on the money that you're getting from early ticket sales to pay 420 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,480 the artist. But if anything goes wrong, like 421 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,520 it's such a fine margin of error. 422 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,680 You know what I mean? It's like very like I would 423 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,520 assume like it would make, it would make sense if you had more 424 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,320 like financial backing to pay the artist like from a separate 425 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,880 port of money and then you know what I mean? 426 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:23,520 Because. Then even then how do you go 427 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,120 about refunds and all that type of stuff if if you're really 428 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,080 like you're playing the game like it's like real it's so 429 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,880 risky. So I feel like the events 430 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:39,520 organizes, organization game is it's it's a very like. 431 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,160 I feel like it's, one, it's very cutthroat and two, it's just 432 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,240 very stressful. It's not only it's and it can 433 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,800 also be very lucrative but it can be very definitely it can be 434 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,160 very lucrative. I mean we we we see like in in 435 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:56,080 the West like what do you call them like companies like Live 436 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,240 Nation and. Loud. 437 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,840 Yeah, those guys are the guys are raking in millions and 438 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,400 millions and millions, but that's because they have systems 439 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,360 and they are. It's a machine that's working 440 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,120 well. It's also working in conjunction 441 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,320 with the labels, so I guess that's right. 442 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,880 But yeah, so if it's done well, it. 443 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Does. Yeah, sorry. 444 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,560 No, no, no. I'm just saying it's like they 445 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,080 work in conjunction with the labels. 446 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,440 But yeah, and that's obviously going to work better because now 447 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,480 now they have that that, I mean the labels are trying to push 448 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,520 their artists so the funding is there for them. 449 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,160 So yeah, that that's the thing here. 450 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,640 I just, I just feel like I and just like the music scene. 451 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,840 I think the the the live performances and the shows and 452 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480 concerts and all that stuff. I still, I feel like here in 453 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,960 Kenya we have like such a good opportunity to grow. 454 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,000 Yeah, there are some shows that have been put on that are really 455 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,640 good though, and there's some long, long running events and 456 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,120 stuff like blankets and wine and the ones that have been there 457 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,600 for a long time, you know, which have become favourites, cult 458 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,960 favourites, They have their following. 459 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,360 But yeah, we do have the opportunity to. 460 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaking Speaking of opportunities to grow, like 461 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,000 we've seen our fellow East African country, Rwanda, they 462 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,680 secured the whole of Africa thing. 463 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,640 So that's the partnership with Kendrick Lamar. 464 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,520 We didn't speak about it on the podcast, but that's going to be 465 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,520 happening exactly a week from when you guys are listening to 466 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,600 this podcast, so next Wednesday. And you see this this 467 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,480 partnership is between Move Africa and PG Lang, which is 468 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,200 Kendrick Lamar's outfit. I don't really know what PG Lang 469 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,760 is about to. It's like a label. 470 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:47,120 It's like a do they, Do they? It's like a lifestyle. 471 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:52,480 It's a it's a it's a fashion company, it's but it's 472 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,760 everything. It's everything. 473 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,480 They're just curators. Curators are ideal incubator. 474 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,800 Yes, that's what it is. It's an. 475 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,320 It's an idea. Kendrick is just having a blast. 476 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,000 Bro, bro, give us an album. Stop. 477 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,200 That's rude to tell an artist. So this is being creative and 478 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,160 give us so. What I'm reading is like, say 479 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,720 that again. Sorry, no, no, no. 480 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,480 I was saying it's rude to tell an artist to to stop being 481 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,040 creative in other areas and just give give us an album should 482 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,640 stop. Yeah, I will stop. 483 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,200 Yeah, I mean, like, bro, we've seen 103,000 release a whole 484 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,000 album. Yeah, of. 485 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,440 What did you anyway, by the way? By the way, it just. 486 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,600 Just. I didn't listen to it. 487 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,440 I haven't listened to you. Are you going to listen to it? 488 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,840 You can't be a man of the culture and not listen to a 489 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,680 whole, a whole 5 hours of flutes, bro. 490 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,080 You need to listen to those flutes, Doug. 491 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,800 I don't know. I don't know if I have the 492 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,880 motivation to. I probably will at one point if 493 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,840 I play it in the background, because what am I going to do? 494 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,080 Sit down and listen to yeah, you listen to how the, the notes, 495 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:03,560 how the, the, the. Yeah, you look, you can't even 496 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,600 you can't even continue your BS. Anyway, I was. 497 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080 I was in and out of consciousness and 498 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,880 subconsciousness and tells a story that's worth 1000 499 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,120 pictures. No a picture is worth. 500 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,480 It a transformative, totally butchered that. 501 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Sorry, Go ahead please. Yeah, we've we've heard that 502 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,920 like multiple times. Anyway, but I don't doubt it's a 503 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,400 good album. I don't doubt it's a good album. 504 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,840 Getting on track. So I was about to read an 505 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,800 article or just like the press statement from Global Citizen 506 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,360 and Move Africa. So that's so as essentially 507 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,600 they're saying they're working with the creative imprint PG 508 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,080 Lang to bring to the world. Move Africa, a global Citizen 509 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,640 experience a new long term large scale effort to pioneer a first 510 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,840 of its kind international music touring circuit throughout the 511 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,120 African continent over the next. Five years. 512 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,200 You heard me right. Five years. 513 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,040 The very first event, Move Africa Rwanda will be headlined 514 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,240 by Grammy Award, Pulitzer Prize winning artist and Co founder of 515 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,520 PG Lang. Kendrick Lamar, Zuchu and Bruce 516 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Melody are also set to light up the stage as performance 517 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,760 performers at the show and Kendrick Lamar's creative 518 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,040 imprint. PG Lang will also serve as the 519 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,160 curator of the Move Africa events for the next five years. 520 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,040 I bet they got a huge bag for this whole thing. 521 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:36,240 Yeah, maybe. So, so they they also go on to 522 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,640 say this is a unique collaboration that aims to 523 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,520 showcase the best of African creative talent to the world. 524 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,760 Through curated, memorable entertainment experiences that 525 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,480 address, that address development priorities of our 526 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400 continent. And yeah, so. 527 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,160 So essentially what they're saying is like, it's not even 528 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,840 just gonna be about Oh yeah, let me just read this real quick so. 529 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,960 They said that the inaugural Move Africa event will focus on 530 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,320 the need to strengthen health systems, with a specific 531 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,640 emphasis on supporting community health workers, adjusting the 532 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,560 climate crisis, particularly its impact on food security and 533 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,320 security, securing support for smallholder farms, and tackling 534 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080 the lack of access to economic opportunities for future 535 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,000 generation generations. So I'm just saying like, it's 536 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,760 not. So it looks like this whole Move 537 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,600 Africa thing is not just limited to the event space it looks like 538 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 they're trying to do. A lot of things outside of that 539 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,560 as well, which is very cool, seems to be super helpful as, as 540 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,640 well as they want to come into the African space and kind of 541 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,520 make this like like integrate this into the global circuit of 542 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,200 events. Because you, you know how 543 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,440 whenever like a Beyoncé or Taylor Swift say they're going 544 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,960 on a glow like on a world tour, it doesn't include Africa. 545 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,040 So hopefully, hopefully they're kind of like establishing that 546 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,440 framework. I also hear like now when they 547 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,880 go to like Rwanda. Like they're going to train a 548 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,440 lot of these people into like how to have like a high quality, 549 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,360 high standard international, high international standard of 550 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,800 like events. And I'm hoping that in within 551 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,560 this next five years they can come to Kenya as well. 552 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,720 Because it seems like we really need this type of thing to kind 553 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,160 of yeah, you know you can you read stuff our our scene. 554 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,120 Yeah, for sure. Can you really benefit from 555 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,600 that? Because I think it's it's one of 556 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:30,440 the at least in Africa it's one of the what do you how do you 557 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,280 say it culture forward places where it's like Kenya is a lot 558 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,320 seems to be in tune. Oh wow. 559 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800 So you're saying that the places in Africa are not culture 560 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,800 forward. I mean, sidestep that one 561 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,880 because that's a chap. OK, That's a chap. 562 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,000 I found you're trying to chop me. 563 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,360 Yeah. So I mean some of the the 564 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,240 countries that are usually mentioned, South Africa, Kenya, 565 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,920 Nigeria, now Rwanda is quickly making themselves putting 566 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,280 themselves into that picture and stuff like that. 567 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,520 So like it would be really good to see that and happen. 568 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,640 Yeah. And I think we would really 569 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,680 benefit from that, honestly. I will benefit from PG Lang. 570 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,080 PG Lang just help us out man. Come, come and save us man. 571 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,080 Come and save us from the from the mud. 572 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680 How can how can we save us from the mud? 573 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,280 Please bro, we only have one trustworthy like event. 574 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,200 Like everyone is just like Gondwana. 575 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,400 That's it. Like everyone, like everything 576 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,840 else is just part. I mean, I've heard good, good 577 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,960 things about. I've never been to a single 578 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,880 blankets and wines for the past 13. 579 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Yeah, OK, even blankets and wines, but like, fine, but also 580 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,120 that's. 2 events. It's two events, some that like 581 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,600 people have like somewhat like, yeah. 582 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,120 Faith in the rest is just like, who knows? 583 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Something could just get fucked up. 584 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,960 Like in the net, you know what I mean? 585 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:58,080 So yeah, the the ground is ripe. I hope the ground is ripe for 586 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,440 good events. The ground is ripe, I hope. 587 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,120 I hope Move Africa are looking at the Kenyan space because we 588 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,040 don't want to have more. Events where people are being 589 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,480 tear gassed and beaten and shot with rubber bullets. 590 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,600 Yeah, I went out to have a good. Oh yeah, and then also some. 591 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,400 Remember, there was the whole there was the whole debacle with 592 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,520 boys to men. I even forgot to bring that up. 593 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,040 That was the whole thing as well. 594 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,720 That was a huge because of the sound. 595 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,840 And then like you see, yeah. And then, I mean there's all 596 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,520 these other. There's just so many examples 597 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,280 and then two chains and all this business that people end up 598 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:35,120 really it's it's I don't know, man, I don't, I don't know what 599 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,480 it is. But then they're just we 600 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,520 definitely have. There's just so many ways to go. 601 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,040 Yeah, there's just so many examples of of the events seen 602 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,080 over here kind of letting us down. 603 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,280 OK, so yeah, moving on to new music. 604 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,920 Sam, what did you listen to? Why are you laughing? 605 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,960 I don't know why it's. Listen audience, this is an 606 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,240 audio only podcast and I don't know why Sam is laughing 607 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200 unexplicably. Anyway, OK, I'll just. 608 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,880 I'll leave it. I'll leave it because you've 609 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,400 you've you've requested. So we shall we shall leave it. 610 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,880 Sorry. Just let me not break the 4th 611 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,480 world. We're back. 612 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,639 Back. Back into the first. 613 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,080 One, Yeah. Don't break the 4th one back 614 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,760 into the anyway. Back into the picture music new. 615 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Music. Do you want to start or should 616 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,840 I? Let me just start with like a 617 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:25,600 few songs that tingled my ear hairs, Tingled my ear hears, he 618 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,120 says. So I listened to the song by 619 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,639 Bahati and Nadia Mukami Baby, you. 620 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,840 That was dope, bro. And then project by Zoe 621 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,239 Kengocha, Oh my God, what a song. 622 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,760 Like bro. That shit came out and I was 623 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,960 just so hyped. For me personally, that was my 624 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,719 favorite colours like like song. Like I was just. 625 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,199 Yeah, for me, like, Zoe really came through. 626 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,800 And I'm so happy for her because like a lot of people like were 627 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,520 discovering her through that, which is just insane. 628 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,880 If me and you really had some guts we would rank the colours 629 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,200 performances, but I don't think we have those guts yet. 630 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,840 Yeah, and who's that going to help, really, anyway. 631 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,040 I mean preference, because you put this one at the top, so 632 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,720 you're definitely ranking it, so you're not going to sidestep. 633 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,200 Like I I haven't. I haven't thought about it. 634 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,320 I haven't thought about it. I have only thought about which 635 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,720 was my favorite. And I can say I saw personal 636 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:24,800 opinion. Either way, we shouldn't be 637 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,880 afraid of personal opinions. But. 638 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,800 And let's continue. Yeah, yeah, so yeah. 639 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,840 So bro, shout out to Zoe, bro, man. 640 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:37,280 Like, I feel like her trajectory is going crazy right now, man. 641 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,840 And she's so young. She's like 21. 642 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,480 So bro, Zoe is definitely going to be a name in the industry. 643 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,600 And listen bruh, our ear is unmatched because we played Zoe 644 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,480 in this podcast ages ago. So big up ourselves, man, for 645 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,600 seeing the potential. So just another woman by Sophie 646 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,040 and Zao. I mean we know Sophie and Zao is 647 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,480 having a blinding. I love what she's doing. 648 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,320 Yeah, she's she's capitalizing off of. 649 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,080 Of the marquee hype, which is really good. 650 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,920 I've also seen a lot of other producers capitalizing. 651 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160 Like a lot of them have also gone into those vocals and 652 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,920 they're now releasing like, so that's pretty. 653 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,320 Interesting. Well listen, I respect the 654 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,480 grand. Oh our guy Waire, the love child 655 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,360 and Kalamoto released and never let go. 656 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,360 It's good to see. Like the legends are still 657 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,320 releasing music, man. Yeah. 658 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaking of of legendary titles over 18. 659 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,680 Well. Okay. 660 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,600 So I was trying to bring like Jim Watt under 18, any what 661 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,840 happened to Jim over 18, where is Jim Watt, where is Jim? 662 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,440 I don't know, but I heard it's a long story. 663 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,880 And yeah, that sounds so disappointed. 664 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,000 Yeah, we need, I need to know that story. 665 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:57,920 Bro, Jim. What? 666 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,240 Had the streets in a tizzy? No, there's some of these Kenyan 667 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,200 musicians who just disappeared and at at at some point I need 668 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,360 to start. We need to start doing it. 669 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,400 There needs to be a duck. A duck needs to come out. 670 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,120 Yeah, there needs to be like a duck. 671 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Yeah. Yeah. 672 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,880 Yeah. So yeah, I'm over 18 by Big 673 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,120 Yassa. And then I I can say, oh, Sam, 674 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,960 we need to talk about the new kid on the block. 675 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,000 Literally. Like, it's super new. 676 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,520 So let me tell you how I first, like, encountered this guy's 677 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,600 music, Sam. So for those of you who don't 678 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,000 know, and a lot of you wouldn't know because this is like 679 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,280 literally his first like project he's released a project called 680 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,320 Time Allows. His name is Altair Saeed. 681 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160 And he is. I hope I'm pronouncing his first 682 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,680 name properly, but he is a new artist, very young, I think he's 683 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:59,160 19 years old and he looks like the new Saini Undersold 684 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:04,000 headquarters, which we know is Faye's outfit. 685 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:11,440 Faye famously manages Zenia and Karoon, as well as I think BT, 686 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,000 but I I would need to be. I wouldn't. 687 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,600 I I thought so, but I don't know. 688 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,560 But I think Betty as well. But anyway, Um, so she's also 689 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,520 managing side. And listen, we know Faye has a 690 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,640 really, really good ear for R&B and UM. 691 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,800 This is something really special that's cropping up here because 692 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120 like, I think Saeed is going to be a bro. 693 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,920 He's 19 and he sounds so freaking good, man. 694 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,360 So we had an event at the studio earlier this year and this was a 695 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,920 Nikita catching event and she was like, yo, I have this friend 696 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,320 and I want him to like go on stage and whatever. 697 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,920 And I was like, OK and well, I was just like, OK, let me see 698 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,520 what he can do, bro. Goes on the stage and is 699 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,760 absolutely. Totally fantastic. 700 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,960 I I go to him and I'm like, bro, you killed it. 701 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640 Like, you sounded so, really so good. 702 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160 And I was just like, bro, I got his number. 703 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,120 I was over there fanboying over, over, over. 704 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,720 This guy's like, bro, I really was, man. 705 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,400 I was like, I was. I was really. 706 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,880 I was no bro. I really was because I was like, 707 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,760 bro, this guy's actually really solid. 708 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,960 So anyway, I mean, no, the the yeah, I I I mean I listened to 709 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,760 the project and I was like this is like it's good. 710 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,040 It sounds, it sounds good. It sounds good, it sounds good. 711 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,600 It sounds well written, well performed. 712 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,560 It's very exciting. Well produced too. 713 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,680 It's very exciting. I'm, I'm looking what to see 714 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,920 what he does and the different types of R&B he brings to the 715 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,680 table. Yeah, I mean he's in. 716 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,800 If he's in face hands, he's in good hands because we've seen 717 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,120 what she's doing with the people over there. 718 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,720 It's pretty cool. So shout out to him, man, shout 719 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,200 out to him. Definitely looking forward to 720 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,640 more music. Of course, this is just the 721 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,040 first, his first project and it's sounding great. 722 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,640 So let's let's go. The ceiling is high. 723 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,360 What else did you listen to? Sam the. 724 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:12,680 Ceiling is high. I'll if I'm being 100% honest, I 725 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,840 haven't really sat down with music. 726 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,680 I've gone through a bunch of stuff. 727 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,920 I'll just pick out some of the ones that I really liked. 728 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,800 First off, I want to shout out the boys at Espresso. 729 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,440 Oh, yes. They dropped something. 730 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,480 It's called which for all our non-english. 731 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,400 I mean our non Swahili speaking people. 732 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,120 Do you think we have non Swahili speaking people? 733 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,800 Listen to the podcast. Yes, Yes. 734 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,600 OK, we do. Have all our non Swahili 735 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,280 speaking people. It means what? 736 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,960 How would you translate them? Super painting? 737 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,440 Yeah, shout out to them. Shout out to them. 738 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,560 Again, we talked about Freedom By by by Sabiu Freedom Two. 739 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,200 He released Freedom One earlier, which is cool. 740 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,960 Freedom 2 by Sabiu. I checked that out. 741 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,480 I haven't gone through it, but now I'm. 742 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,360 I'm going to sit down with it and see what it sounds like. 743 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,080 Honestly, I don't know. There's not much else, bro. 744 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,760 There's not much else, no, no, no. 745 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,680 There's also. I want. 746 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,680 To point out something, sorry, there's there's this culture of 747 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,320 sampling which it seems to be on the rise in the Kenyan music 748 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,880 scene, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. 749 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,240 Admiral sampled what songs are no matter what I do. 750 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,800 Is that the one dilemma? Dilemma. 751 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,520 Yeah. Yeah. 752 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:30,200 And Song called Ain't Mine, Ain't Mine, which is cool. 753 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,240 I I I thoroughly enjoyed that beach. 754 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:36,120 I turned it to a Jersey club joint which is not she but I 755 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,480 don't know if she's going to produce it. 756 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,720 But yeah that was that was interesting to listen to. 757 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,920 I like the culture of sampling. I think it's it's a new frontier 758 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,760 that we're getting into. But it's it's it's it's it's the 759 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,840 it's it's part of the new urban tone wave yeah urban tone with 760 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,280 an A which I think I think I'm safe in saying like one of The 761 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960 Pioneers of urban tone is little minor. 762 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,320 But anyway, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. 763 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,800 So yeah, that was cool. That was cool. 764 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,320 Just a whole bunch of releases. Check them out, man. 765 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,600 Check them out. Check them out. 766 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,320 Check them out. Oh brah, brah brah. 767 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,160 Before he forget, man. Before Yeah, I you've You've 768 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:26,080 forgotten to there was the other sample song was Bad Boys by from 769 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,920 from Frank White. I think they're the guys who 770 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,960 sampled the whole kleptomaniac song. 771 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,480 Yeah, but now I listen. I don't know how I feel about 772 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,280 this, OK? I'm still, I'm still sitting 773 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,040 with it. I'm still trying to feel it. 774 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,280 But then essentially this is it's, it's it's a beat when once 775 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,120 once you play, it's like it's one of the most iconic beats 776 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,720 that have come out of this country. 777 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,120 Like I don't know who produced that. 778 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,760 Actually. It'll be good to go to go back 779 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,960 and check who produced it, so we can just ask. 780 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,960 Oh yeah, I could just do that. But yeah, it's for me. 781 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,360 That was interesting. I don't know how I feel about 782 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,440 it. I don't know how you feel about 783 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,280 it. It's like. 784 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,640 Especially going on streaming. I don't know whether I like it. 785 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,000 I like it. I just wonder if people are 786 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,240 clearing samples. I don't think they are, but 787 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:20,920 like, hey, listen. As fellow producers, we have St. 788 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,000 Codes. You don't want the samples 789 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,560 niche, but at the same time it's like, yeah, yeah, we have codes. 790 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,440 So another sort, another song that came out there was The Lost 791 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,840 Cause Rap Freestyle by Asam Garvey. 792 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,440 I really fuck with Asam. Oh yeah. 793 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,120 Shout out to Kaksi. Kaksi produced that. 794 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,560 I like that shout out to Kaksi Kaksi on the beat. 795 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,280 There's also bred up by System Haven and Omawama Figi. 796 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,240 That's on some Kilimani rapper vibes. 797 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:54,120 There was Kimbokita by Mboki Genji. 798 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,560 There was Reggae Genji by Unspoken Salaton. 799 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,840 There was some reggae vibes. And then I think finally the 800 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,000 last song I listened to was Flow, so-called by King Kirby 801 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,600 and O'Hara. O'Hara is an artist, she's not 802 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,040 Kenyan, but she's from South Africa. 803 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,400 So it's good to see that cross country collaboration between 804 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,680 Kenya and South Africa. I think it's really fire. 805 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,640 The song is fire. And listen, I don't even have to 806 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,960 say it anymore. The video is fire because Kirby 807 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,600 has been churning out like some really, really fire videos of 808 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,400 late. But anyway, Sam, I'm thinking 809 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,680 for today or for this week, we should really, really highlight 810 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,320 the new kid on the block, Altair Saeed. 811 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,040 Because bro, I think he if time allows, he's going to be a 812 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,680 really, really big star. See what I did there, bro? 813 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,720 Anyway. I see what you did. 814 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,000 Anyway guys, thank you. Thank you so much. 815 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,960 I will take my flowers. Anyway guys, this is Time Allows 816 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,080 from his debut EP Time Allows by Altair Saeed. 817 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:22,760 I never would have thought I'd meet a soul with so much 818 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:30,560 contacts in my inner self. It's all exposed to you, and I 819 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:37,320 don't understand why I'm so compelled. 820 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:44,800 I'm certain it's a spell. A story only I can tell. 821 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:51,200 I want you to hold on to me tight, 'cause it all just feels 822 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:57,480 so nice to be right here. When you meet, I want to feel 823 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,760 all you can give. I want you to hold on to me 824 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,760 tight, 'cause it all just feels so nice to be right here when 825 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:35,720 you meet. 1000 words just ain't enough to 826 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,920 tell you how annoying I am of every single part of you. 827 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,120 And we don't need to complicate who we believe. 828 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:55,080 Trust that you'll be safe with me in certain, but in time 829 00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:01,880 you'll see. I want you to hold on to me 830 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:09,360 tight, 'cause it all just feels so nice to be right, you and me. 831 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:16,520 I want to feel all you can give. I want you to hold on to me 832 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:24,160 tight, 'cause it all just feels so nice to be right, you and me. 833 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,720 I just want to feel what time allows us to be. 834 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:17,800 Should hold on to me inside. To hold on to me tight because 835 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:23,280 it all just feels so nice to be right here when you need. 836 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:30,360 I just want to feel the time I was to be 837 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:50,080 that was time allows by very Altair side. 838 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,400 Smooth vocals on that. Very smooth. 839 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:57,400 No, I I really love the the melody he's doing on that hook, 840 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,200 man. It's actually very, very. 841 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,960 And it doesn't. Yeah, and it doesn't sound bad 842 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,360 too. This very sounds very decently 843 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,360 engineered, bro. Yeah, I mean, shout out to the 844 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,440 guys. I saw Eugene Kanugo's name there 845 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,120 and the credits, so shout out to him. 846 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,640 But listen Sam. Yep, this was a really, really 847 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,800 good installment of the 30% podcast. 848 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,920 You know where to find us. You can find that at the 849 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,280 beginning of the podcast. Yeah, if I do say so. 850 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,440 Myself and guys, listen, we are this. 851 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,040 Episode Very excited. Three. 852 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,920 Yeah, we're super excited for for you guys to hear the next 853 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,760 episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 854 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,400 Oh, man. It's going to be a good one. 855 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,800 It's going to be a good one. In the words of Boutros, Yeah, 856 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,760 yeah, yeah. Anyway, guys, absolutely 857 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,920 brilliant. We shall catch you. 858 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,240 We shall catch you guys. Thank you for listening, 54. 859 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,840 Thank you for listening. Yeah. 860 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,480 Thank you for listening. Thank you for everyone who's 861 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,040 rocking with us. We're rocking with you too, I 862 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,880 think. Yes. 863 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,760 Yeah. And listen, I mean, I haven't 864 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,960 said this in a while, but we started this podcast to 865 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,640 highlight Kenyan music and we don't forget that that's our 866 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,040 main goal. It's to put Kenyan music, the 867 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,920 Kenyan music industry and the music itself on a platform where 868 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,280 you guys can actually interact with what's happening in a 869 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,360 podcast format and hopefully, you know, look at the artists 870 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,360 who we talk about and think about the issues that we raise. 871 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,320 But. Yeah, guys, start the 872 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,720 conversation. We shall see you. 873 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,280 Solve the problem. We shall see you on episode 50. 874 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,240 54.