1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,680 I understand and I hear you offer. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,720 I think what they are doing is none of that. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,160 You receive, I receive, I receive, I receive I internalize 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,320 and absolutely threw it away because I don't think that's 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,360 what they digest. No, I just first if I throw it 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,800 away. Yeah, first you digest. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:54,240 OK, I digest. Hey everybody, welcome to the 8 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,560 30% podcast. This is episode 60 of the 30% 9 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,760 podcast. We thoroughly enjoy you guys 10 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,960 being with us. I'm pretty sure if I'm agrees, 11 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,600 does if I'm agree. I I really much do. 12 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Really much do spoken like a true, true English man, this 13 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,680 podcast is offered on Spotify. 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Oh, what's going on? 26 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Nothing much, man. It's. 27 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,560 Happening with you on this. 60th episode Nothing much on this 28 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,720 60th episode. Wow. 29 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Big 60, Big 66 listen 60 seconds make a minute. 60 minutes make 30 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,600 an hour. 60 podcasts make. A. 31 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:17,640 What you Will 60 podcasts make a amazing time that you are 32 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:25,200 spending with the 30% Pod boys. But what's going on? 33 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,000 How's your week been? I guess we can get into that. 34 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,800 My week's been good. Been working on music, been 35 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,800 working on a release that's coming out next Friday with my 36 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,240 artist. Can you play snippets on the 37 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,800 podcast? No, we cannot. 38 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,240 But we will talk about it when it's out. 39 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,720 But yeah, yeah, so just been working on music for that, been 40 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,920 working on a bunch of beats, been working on another secret 41 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:55,680 project, which I can't really get into much details, but it's 42 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,160 really cool. So I'm working on that as well. 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,400 And yeah, yeah, the week, the year has started well. 44 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,120 So hopefully can take in or can. Oh yeah. 45 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Oh sorry. And then also, I'm just waffling 46 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,560 here. The video with Little Minor came 47 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,840 out during the week, which was really insane, really dope. 48 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,920 The reception. Was really great. 49 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,760 I don't know that part actually. Don't I need to listen to this 50 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,600 again? Coco butter. 51 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Coco butter. Anyway, yeah, the video came 52 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,200 out. I was in the video at the end, 53 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,040 which was so cringy for me to see myself in the. 54 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Music video 100% support you. You know you're my guy. 55 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,200 But they didn't do you right. Go look at the video. 56 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Look at the video. Go see what? 57 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,800 It's my fault. It's my fault. 58 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,080 It's like, why was I? Why? 59 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,840 Did you look so lost? My why did? 60 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Yeah, what was I doing? Man look like he didn't belong 61 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,840 there at all. It was. 62 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Crazy bro. Yeah. 63 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Anyway, yeah, you can see my 2 seconds of fame. 64 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Don't even 2 seconds. Probably less of fame on the 65 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,160 cocoa butter video by Little Minor And dance. 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Yeah, shout out to him for putting me on for sure, bro. 67 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,480 So yeah, that came out. That was exciting. 68 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,079 Just seeing the numbers going up and seeing the engagement and 69 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:25,320 interaction and yeah man, hopefully I can't. 70 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,000 Here's too many more. Here's. 71 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Too many more. Were you holding? 72 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,280 I was holding up a fake glass. No, no, no. 73 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:32,920 OK, here's. One. 74 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,280 Now you have a real glass. More. 75 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:36,080 Here's too many more. Because that glass is empty. 76 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,880 There's nothing in there, but you can toast emptiness. 77 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Why? Why are you exposing me like 78 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,640 this? Come on. 79 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,520 I'm so sorry. OK. 80 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,400 How was your week? How was your? 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Week It was good because actually it was really good. 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,640 It was very creative. I've I think I made an average 83 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:51,200 of. Everybody's so creative. 84 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:55,760 Yeah, I made an average of, I want to say 2 tracks a day. 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Like it's been ridiculous. Like I've been sleeping at 2:00 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,000 PM, three PM, and I've it's been a while since I've been doing 87 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,960 that. So I've been really leaning into 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,840 it. I've been doing a lot of. 89 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:07,560 I'm a piano, which is fun. I'm a piano is a lot more fun 90 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,320 than I thought it would be. Like, I thought it just getting 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,760 on and making the same thing over and over again. 92 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,720 But there's so many different ways you can take it. 93 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,880 I particularly I'm working on an Electro piano type of deal where 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,840 it's more like EDME because I'm I'm also an EDM producer, so 95 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:26,960 it's more like an EDME take on it. 96 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,920 So it's very simple, almost almost structured it structured. 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,000 I'm a piano in an EDM way kind of deal. 98 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 So yeah that's cool. Reaching out to artists, sending 99 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,120 them stuff. A couple of people liked it and 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,680 then also been planning. There's there's a few people who 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,520 I'm working with that I'm just trying to plan their releases 102 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,360 and how we're going about their careers currently. 103 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,480 So I've been getting into that, getting into more of the 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 planning part of music, not necessarily like not producing, 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,880 but then the back end and all that stuff, which is really 106 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,960 cool. I think it's very cool. 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:03,560 It's very interesting, exciting. So that's really, honestly what 108 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,720 I've been up to and staying alive. 109 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,400 Nice. Staying alive. 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Alive. Staying alive. 111 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,640 We're supposed to be together. Staying off beat. 112 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,120 OK. Anyway, bro, shout out to you 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,960 for staying alive. Shout out to me for staying 114 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,600 alive. Sam. 115 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:19,440 What? What? 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,120 What? What was captivating your 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,320 attention? Depends on what. 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,960 We're starting with music industry. 119 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Should we start Zomba or should we start with seriousness? 120 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,360 Let's start with a mixture of Sirius and Somba. 121 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:42,400 So Sam, Yeah, MCSK, bro. It's the saddest story in 122 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,080 history of. Sadness. 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,440 That's like so. I mean going through, just going 124 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,240 through the interwebs and then I see, I see an article about a 125 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,000 tweet by Noonini. And if you don't know Noonini, 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,000 where have you been? He's a which is a legend in the 127 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,080 Kenyan industry. So anyways, he was just do you 128 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:02,920 know? Sorry. 129 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,720 Oh wait. Before you go on, do you know 130 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,720 this is how I found out his real name? 131 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,520 Really. He thought his name was no name. 132 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,280 No, I just never thought of asking of thinking of what his 133 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,120 real name? Yeah, yeah. 134 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Anyway, sorry, go ahead. Yeah, so he's actually based on 135 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,560 the US. That's crazy. 136 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:30,240 Did he send him the money, bro? OK, let So MCSK decided if. 137 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,080 They did send him the money. It would equate to $8. 138 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:41,280 That's that's barely a dollar. So yeah, the, what do you call 139 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,440 it, MCSK got a little bit of money. 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,240 They came into some money and they decided that they were 141 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,880 going to share that money equally among all their Was it 142 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,200 16,000 plus? How? 143 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Benevolent of them? How benevolent. 144 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Oh man, there's so many things wrong about this. 145 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,520 They say they're going to share that money equally among the 146 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,480 16,000 plus, I guess artists that we have in that are signed 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,720 up to their platform. So I guess, I don't know, I 148 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,360 think it was maybe 20 something. I don't know the exact numbers, 149 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:21,960 but that came up to around 1200 and a whopping 1200 and a 150 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:28,480 crazily mind blowingly whopping 1250 shillings per head. 151 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:34,760 What some people are going to make 1200 Bob from their hard 152 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,360 earned music their hard imagine sums not like. 153 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,960 For years and. Think about this, Think about, 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,679 think about this sum. Yeah, you invest 100,000 doing a 155 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,200 music video. You you invest 100,000 into 156 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,880 recording the whole album with the mixing and master. 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You invest around 60,000 just to 158 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,440 do the PR run, you know, just to, you know, to talk to the 159 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,240 press and everything. You do the whole 60,000, right? 160 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,920 You pay the people who do your artwork. 161 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,640 You pay the people who do your you know, just the random 162 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,960 visuals on your Instagram and social media and some all this 163 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,240 is building up to the big 12:50 that's going to come into your 164 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,200 bank account to justify all the hard work you did for your 165 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,200 music. Let's clap it up for MCSK, Sir. 166 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Let's clap it up for them. Shout out to them now. 167 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:25,800 Amazing. Yeah. 168 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,840 Oh, so they're sharing. They're sharing 16,000,000, not 169 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,880 20. Sorry, I misquoted that. 170 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,840 They're sharing 16,000,000, which is a lot of money now. 171 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:38,760 MCSKCEO Ezekiel Muto shout out to you Sir, dismissed the 172 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,840 assertion saying the monies will be distributed in two ways in 173 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,000 general and scientific. AFAM please tell me what that 174 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,960 means. Bro, me when I saw them 175 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 describing it as scientific. I'm like, bro, this guy does 176 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,200 himself, doesn't even know what that means, so he doesn't even 177 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,560 know what that means. With science, don't you have to 178 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,320 have, like, a method to distribute these things? 179 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,000 You can't. Just like, hey, our method is 180 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,360 everyone gets it's Oprah, it's Oprah. 181 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 All of a sudden, everyone gets part of the money. 182 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:10,280 That's You get a car, you get top 50, you get top 50. 183 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,800 You get to get to Listen, Sam, this is the big this is the 184 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,360 biggest red flag. First of all, giving people a 185 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,160 general amount, that's standard. Just giving people every, like 186 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,600 everybody who makes music, that's a red flag. 187 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,120 That's a red flag. A huge one. 188 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,960 Because listen, in any industry, like, if they're giving you at a 189 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,040 oh, you guys will all get $10. That's a red flag because that's 190 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,200 you being finessed. It's like, okay, we'll give you 191 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,400 something and then you will feel like we're giving you something. 192 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,280 No, give me what I'm owed. Like if you're giving a dentist 193 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,080 who has earned 12150 for the year, that's that's fine. 194 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,240 But me, an artist who has done all this work and give people 195 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,880 the money that they have worked for essentially. 196 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,800 It's kind of don't give people, yeah, like as your scientific 197 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,760 system needs to be actually scientific. 198 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Of course there was pushback. He said that of course we are 199 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,080 not just giving everyone money, which is exactly what they're 200 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,680 doing, but there's like we are going to award them royalties 201 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:19,760 based on how much they've played and all and we've seen. 202 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,760 So the problem with that is we've seen what has happened in 203 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:22,880 the past. So we don't believe you. 204 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,120 We honestly really don't believe these people and it seems like 205 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,160 we are being harsh on them. But this is a major way or 206 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,780 rather the way that's supported by the government, quote UN 207 00:11:33,780 --> 00:11:36,720 quote, supported by the government that artists can earn 208 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,480 money. And if this is how people are 209 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,880 going about it, how on earth what do we have? 210 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:47,480 Like just of how what? Oh yeah, it's just. 211 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,240 It's ridiculous. Listen, listen. 212 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,200 MCSK is a is a joke and it makes and. 213 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,040 You know the thing they? Make they make the music 214 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,680 industry seem like such a but listen such. 215 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:00,400 A play thing. They don't take it seriously. 216 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,400 It's not, it doesn't look like that. 217 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,880 That's actually taking art seriously in that way. 218 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,800 It's more like, oh, let's just do whatever and you guys have to 219 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,880 be OK with it. That's like why? 220 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,680 Yeah. And The thing is, they collect, 221 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,640 they collect the monies that are generated from music very 222 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,640 efficiently. You know, they have all the 223 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,680 representatives or what do they call them, officers, who go 224 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,720 around collecting all these monies from the from the 225 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,400 matatus, from the restaurant establishment, from the clubs, 226 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,520 you know, permitting them to play music, But hey, when it 227 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,000 comes to actually paying out the artist. 228 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,320 It's not that serious. It's an issue. 229 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,760 It's not that serious. It's an issue, man, I. 230 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,480 Hope they clear it up. No, it's it's horrible. 231 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,560 Yeah, the sorry. Listen, no Sam, at this point I 232 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,440 this. Listen maybe this is reckless 233 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,320 for me to say. I personally don't care if 234 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,080 these. Views. 235 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,000 These views are Affirm and Affirm's. 236 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Views. No, listen, I don't care. 237 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,160 Because as Kenyan artists, I can tell you they are very listen. 238 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Nonini even stated that he left like he's he's no longer part of 239 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,440 MCSK. Whatever. 240 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,640 Like he. He he must. 241 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,520 He must have left money on the table too. 242 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,160 But there are multiple ways to collect your royalties outside 243 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:23,280 of these MCSK guys and it's it's just, this is the fact of the 244 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,720 matter, your MCSK are not going to save us. 245 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,120 They're not some look at me, they are not going to save us. 246 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,480 They're not. So listen, there are other ways 247 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,280 to collect your monies. There are other PR OS that you 248 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,440 can involve. Yourself. 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,560 Especially since, especially since music is more global now 250 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:44,920 and a lot of it is not just within your region like you can 251 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,360 appeal to other regions because of the Internet. 252 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,920 Like, it's probably good to look at how to get your music 253 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,920 collected. I mean revenue collected in in 254 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,880 other places, not just you know locally, so. 255 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,600 Exactly. Listen, maybe I'm being a 256 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,200 pessimist, but like. You don't think it's going to 257 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,560 change? It's too much money they're 258 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:10,600 making, man. They're making too much money. 259 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,520 So even whether it's it's Ezekiel Mutura, whether it's the 260 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,920 next guy who comes in that money is way too much and and and and 261 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,560 it's it's always going to be a matter of contention. 262 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,240 And people, it has always been and it always will be pockets, 263 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,040 unfortunately. Yeah, they're going to line want 264 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,440 to line our pockets with money that we're generating with for 265 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,880 them for free. So how about we figure out our 266 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,120 own ways in which we can, you know, try. 267 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,960 Because, bro, it's what what are we going to do? 268 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,000 Like, listen, Sam, these leaders are going to be corrupt. 269 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,360 They're going to corrupt like corruption is going to. 270 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,560 Corrupt, you know, You know what's. 271 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 So you know what's annoying is that whenever they give out 272 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,120 information like this, like it's not clear. 273 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,640 Like we don't have a clear. This is what's happening. 274 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,200 This is what's happening. Even the numbers are here. 275 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,360 I'm here in 16,000,000. Here I'm hearing 20 million. 276 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,120 I'm hearing they're giving out five. $1000 Taking out 1200. 277 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,800 It's already the red flag is already in them giving people at 278 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,320 a specific value of money. No other kind. 279 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,400 Other music industries. They'll give you what you're 280 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,160 owed. They won't give you at they 281 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,560 won't say at Now everybody gets $10. 282 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,720 That's how you know you're being finessed. 283 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Yeah, it's looking a lot. And then we'll and then we'll 284 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,160 engage in scientific methods. What are those scientific 285 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,400 methods, Sam? What are they really? 286 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,840 What are they? You know what I mean? 287 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,880 So yeah, man, that's. I mean that's that's crazy. 288 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,400 We can't. You just we just can't. 289 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,480 We can't You just can't shout out to people who are thinking 290 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,200 differently and doing things differently because you're the 291 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,280 ones who are going to further. We can't be. 292 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,480 That's $8, bro. It's $8. 293 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,120 What am I going to do $8 after my music has been played? 294 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,120 Nothing. And why isn't that important? 295 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Why isn't that an important form? 296 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,720 See now I'm getting to rant mode. 297 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,320 All right. Let's go. 298 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,520 Let's move on, man. Just you all need to act right. 299 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,120 Sorry, MCSKI know you all need to act right. 300 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,800 You just, you just have to and and if some of the information 301 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,920 being put out is wrong how about you give us clear, concise 302 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,600 information with the data to back it up that people can 303 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,760 actually say, OK, this is deserved and this is deserved 304 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,280 and this is deserved rather than coming out of the gate talking 305 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,320 about, oh, we're really happy that artists are going to earn 306 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,560 from the music. And then it's 1200 and we're all 307 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,080 in up and arms because we don't really know what that means. 308 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Like what does that mean for my statistics as an artist? 309 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Because artists are supposed to look at that data and plan their 310 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 future projects, plan their singles, plan the way they move. 311 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,280 But we can't plan anything off. Hey, everyone gets a dollar, you 312 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,680 know? It just doesn't make much sense 313 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,040 anyway. Well, it doesn't. 314 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,040 I don't know. We all have to hold their feet 315 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,560 to the fire and hope for the best because honestly, it's not 316 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,120 looking good. Fam it's not. 317 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Looking good, fam. It's not looking good. 318 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,760 I have the audacity to even feel that. 319 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Headline is making it's bringing bile. 320 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 It's bringing bile into my mouth, man. 321 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,720 It's bitter taste. It's not very tasty, distasteful 322 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:02,640 meals. Not at. 323 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,319 All literally distasteful. Meals. 324 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,640 Let me see. OK, so there's there's one thing 325 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,160 I wanted to bring up as well. So this is music industry 326 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,480 related. So a friend of mine, Benjamin 327 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:24,200 Otwal, he's yeah, he started a YouTube series called the Music 328 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,800 Business Academy and he actually just sent this to me. 329 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:33,760 So Benjamin Otwal, you know, he's worked at Boom Play, he's 330 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:39,640 also managed Saru and he's also done a lot of stuff like with 331 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,160 the, you know, the dance crews in the country, like they worked 332 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,840 a lot of of stuff with them on YouTube and just monetizing the 333 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,960 that type of content on YouTube and stuff like that. 334 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,800 But like, he's really, really building a niche in the music 335 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,880 industry for himself. And he's like I said, he started 336 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,080 a series called the Music Business Academy where he'll be 337 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,240 taking people through like what the music industry is about 338 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,080 financial literacy and just all that type of stuff. 339 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:19,560 Releasing music consistently, being, you know, aware of the 340 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,360 just the different facets of music, whether it's 341 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:24,960 distribution, whether it's publishing the. 342 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,520 Technicals of it. Exact the technicalities. 343 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,000 And yeah, he's, I've watched two of his episodes, his intro, 344 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,480 where he kind of just explains who he is and, you know, the 345 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,160 space that he occupies in the music industry. 346 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,080 And then I watched a different one where he just talks about 347 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,000 like the people he's worked with, his experience, as well as 348 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:53,920 just, yeah, just describing what The Academy Is going to be and 349 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,680 what he's hoping to achieve. So if you are in the music 350 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,120 industry and you're lost, cause bro, like the music industry is 351 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:06,160 very complex. There's so many moving parts and 352 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,720 it's very complicated. And so sometimes you need some 353 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,680 of these type of individuals who kind of break, break it down 354 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,840 into, you know, more digestible chunks. 355 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,080 So this is stuff you can find on YouTube for free. 356 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,840 So I I would urge you guys, if you are interested in learning 357 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,800 more about the music industry, to check out Benjamin Otual. 358 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,200 Yeah, I think he's doing some really dope. 359 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,840 Stuff. It's really cool. 360 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,800 It's really cool. I. 361 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,760 Wanted to highlight. That yeah, I checked out two 362 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,960 episodes. I mean it's always good. 363 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,880 It's always and it's partly obviously why we're we're we're 364 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,120 on here talking is to give information to artists. 365 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Not to say that we know everything, but then just using 366 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,080 our own experience and and our opinions and what we've seen in 367 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,720 work is to give you information to artists that might not 368 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,280 necessarily be thinking that there is a whole world behind 369 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,720 just the studio. And so like being an artist 370 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,960 there's so many things involved and whoever currently for this 371 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,640 for this for our industry to grow we also need to have a lot 372 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,320 of information and a lot of people who know how to go about 373 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,360 some of these things in in in you know at A at a higher level 374 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,440 and how you do is start by just knowing. 375 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,040 So it's really good. Like I watched two episodes. 376 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,800 And I'm definitely looking to to see what like I'm genuinely 377 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:26,000 interested in my own to learn to learn from what he's he's done 378 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,840 and. Bro, one thing about this music 379 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,680 industry, you never stop learning more. 380 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,800 Like some and I some and I. The other day, let me expose 381 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,760 this a little bit. We were kind of like going 382 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,760 through how producers should make money. 383 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,800 Oh yeah, I know. Like we should. 384 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,680 We should. Definitely. 385 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,640 Know we should know the answer. But we don't like even us. 386 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,760 We were like. Super technical and there's just 387 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,320 so many things I thinking about. Thinking about all the 388 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,320 percentages, what's actually acceptable in the industry like 389 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,440 this is information that some it changes all the time. 390 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,080 It's different here and there. Like the way things operate here 391 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,640 in Canyon is not the way things operate like in general. 392 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,440 So just like knowing all this type of stuff, it's hard. 393 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,840 And yeah, you you sometimes you do need information need. 394 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Yeah, so it's cool. It's cool that there's people. 395 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Who are doing that, willing to share? 396 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,200 Yeah, it's cool that there's people who are who are, who are 397 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,680 doing that, especially people with a lot of experience in 398 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,040 different areas and in different fields too. 399 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Because he's not just music he's done. 400 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,240 He's worked with like dancing he's done. 401 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000 He's worked with some video. So he's yeah, it's really cool 402 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,400 to see my child to him. I really hope that your goal 403 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,920 with it is reached. I guess that's the most 404 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,160 important thing. So yes. 405 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,000 Yep. Oh, OK. 406 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,320 So the last. So for me, this is the last bit 407 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,840 of news that kind of caught my eye. 408 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,960 I know. Last podcast we we shared the 409 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,160 open calls from go to institute and there's another open call 410 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,280 brought to you by the Nawiri fellowship. 411 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,400 It is, I think, Nawiri It's brought to you. 412 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,680 Yeah. By now we fellowship brought to 413 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,200 you by the Nawi Afri Fem Collective and they're looking 414 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,680 for artists for its first fellowship programme to take 415 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,760 place on the week of Monday, January the 29th to Saturday, 416 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,720 February the 3rd of 2024. The deadline for application is 417 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:21,440 January 23rd by 11:59 PM. Oh, 1159 past. 418 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:28,400 Ah yeah, oh man. Anyway, but anyway, this is a 419 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,440 fellowship. It would have passed by the time 420 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,840 this podcast comes out, but this artist fellowship is brought to 421 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,600 you by now a collective. And they're a group of African 422 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,560 women who believe that the economic systems and policies 423 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,280 guiding our countries and the global economy are anti poor, 424 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,640 anti labour, anti women, anti joy, anti beauty, anti 425 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,280 sustainability and therefore fundamentally at odds with life. 426 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,920 We are collective helping to build a community of African 427 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,960 women researchers, writers, artists, healers and dreamers 428 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,400 committed to analyzing, giving language to changing the 429 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,160 language of, and influencing the policies guiding our 430 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,680 macroeconomic systems. So essentially, during this 431 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,000 multi multidisciplinary fellowship, artists will be 432 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,880 inspired to create very hard art that explores the effects of 433 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,760 economic policies on the communities we live in and the 434 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,120 effects of the political economy on our everyday lives. 435 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,640 You are eligible to apply if you are an artist or creative 436 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,360 exploring art and culture. This includes, but are not 437 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,520 limited to fine artist, musician, graphic designer, 438 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760 poet, writer, songwriter, photographer, ETC. 439 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,000 And you are female or non binary Kenyan available to meet in 440 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,640 Nairobi within the program dates and between the ages of 18 and 441 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,560 33 there will be a stipend that would be afforded to you 442 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,920 probably. More than MCSK is going to give 443 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,840 up. Oh yeah, definitely way more 444 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,720 than MCSK is going to give you. So if you feel like you fit the 445 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,360 criteria you should definitely check them out. 446 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Obviously the deadline may have passed by the time this podcast 447 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:20,400 comes out, but I do urge you to look into their website and and 448 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,240 maybe just e-mail them their Their e-mail is now we 449 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:31,200 nawearyfellowship@gmail.com. Double NAWIRI Fellowship. 450 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:37,880 You Should not spell fellowship. Yeah or info at nawi dot Africa 451 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,440 and you can just hit them up and and and bro. 452 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,120 Like for me personally I want to see the the art and the 453 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,480 creativity that comes out of being. 454 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:56,200 You know of if you do get a scholarship scholarship, if you 455 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,720 do get a grant or a stipend from these guys that you know affords 456 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,080 you the ability to like create and everything. 457 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,640 I'd love to see the art that comes out of that. 458 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,320 So yeah, definitely do apply and that's dope, look and yo. 459 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Just dope just dope and and sorry just to add on on that 460 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,080 like so it there are usually at the beginning of the year a lot 461 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,320 of these come up. So as an artist it's just to be 462 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,240 cool to look to be on the lookout and and like apply like 463 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,120 yes it's not it's not kept for a specific you know what you call 464 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,360 it type of person or anything like it's just good to try and 465 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,320 apply especially if you if you if you meet the criteria. 466 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,960 So I'm just look out for more of these. 467 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,200 This one will have maybe the deadline might have passed, but 468 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,600 then I'm sure there's there's a lot more that you can really do 469 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,080 research because some of these things having help in that way 470 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,800 would help you push your music in different ways and your art 471 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,360 as a whole. So it's just good to look, look, 472 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:59,080 look Exacta Mundo. It's good to look those up. 473 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Is there anything else that you've seen that's been? 474 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Yeah, there's something I wanted to bring up. 475 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560 This is not, this doesn't necessarily apply to the Kenyan 476 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,520 market, but I found it super interesting. 477 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960 I think there is some crossover, so. 478 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,960 The I need. To navigate this properly, 479 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,320 there's an artist who is popular for stealing people's 480 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,800 boyfriends, I. OK, OK, OK, my name is. 481 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,320 My name is. Ariana Grande which is really? 482 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Oh no, I'm not doing that. No, there's there's too many bad 483 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,160 jokes in a row. Ariana Grande Rodrigo suddenly 484 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,640 released a song called Yes and which she tends to be taking a 485 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,240 direction in terms of her naming, like the last one was. 486 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,880 What was it? Because of what was it? 487 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,840 I don't know. I'm. 488 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,680 Not clued up on. Ariana, you're not you're not up 489 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,480 now. I have to find it. 490 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,320 It was. Thank you. 491 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,280 Next. There we go. 492 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:54,160 Thank you. Next to us. 493 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,960 No thank you. Next. 494 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,320 Came out a while. Ago, OK And then positions and 495 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,120 then yes. And so she's kind of continued 496 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:00,400 that. You're sounding like you're 497 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,240 sounding like. It's very good. 498 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,920 Hurry. So anyway, she released her, her 499 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,840 little single called Yes, and just move. 500 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,920 Just walk quickly, walk quickly past it. 501 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,680 Don't. Think about it. 502 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,160 OK. OK. 503 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:11,680 OK. Yeah. 504 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,880 That didn't happen. That didn't happen. 505 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,120 Yeah. So she leaves a single called 506 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:20,240 Yes and and I think, I think it was 2 weeks ago she released it. 507 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,720 But then now recently this past week cycle released I think it 508 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,560 was Friday. She dropped a couple more 509 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,320 versions of the song. Now we've seen this happen in 510 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,720 in. Why do you think that is? 511 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800 We've seen this happen in in, in music where people would drop, 512 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,680 then they'll probably drop an edit to it, or they'll drop the 513 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800 acapella, they'll drop the instrumental, you know, just to 514 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,840 create more buzz, this young lady has dropped 8 new versions 515 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,640 of the song. All right, so we have this main 516 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,280 song, we have the edit, we have the extended mix, we have the 517 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,000 Speed up version, we have the acapella. 518 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,160 Hey, in case you didn't like the Speed up version, we have the 519 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,560 slowed version, We have the instrumental, then we have the 520 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,440 extended mix instrumental. Now there's rumours that that 521 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,160 she does 14 different versions, but officially on Spotify 522 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200 there's just eight. OK On streaming there's just 523 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,560 eight. I was looking at it and I'm 524 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,440 like, it makes sense, all right. It makes sense to drop. 525 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,360 But then my feeling that I automatically went to thinking 526 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,160 about why you would do this because Ariana Grande has the 527 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,480 numbers. She doesn't need to at first. 528 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,040 The song was released maybe I want to say 2 weeks ago, if not 529 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,840 a week ago. And it's on 66 million plays on 530 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,440 Spotify alone, right. So that's she she brings in her 531 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,240 numbers. Why afam, let's, let's, let's 532 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,600 hypothesize here. Is that a word? 533 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,120 Let's, let's let's do some thinking. 534 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,280 Why would you think she would? I wish she hadn't said it. 535 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,040 I wish she hadn't said it because now I feel dumb. 536 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,960 That's hypothesize. Why do you think she would drop 537 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:56,080 88 versions and a possible 14 in your brain in Afam's mind? 538 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,840 So I think what they're trying to do with Ariana Grande, I 539 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,880 mean, OK, at this point, these guys have a lot of analytics, 540 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,040 right? One thing I know a lot of people 541 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,520 have been releasing slowed versions and speed up versions 542 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,840 to really increase engagement on social media platforms. 543 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,520 So there's this one song called Tekkit by Kafune that really, 544 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,480 really did well on TikTok, especially the Speed up version, 545 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,960 like the Speed up version did so well, like that's actually, I 546 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600 think that's the first version I had. 547 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,720 I watched the moon make it run my mood. 548 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,720 That's how it goes. So I so I I think I heard the 549 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,560 the Speed up version first before I even heard the actual 550 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,520 version of the song and it did wonders for them. 551 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,720 We've also seen Victoria, Tony with Soweto. 552 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Oh yeah, Speed up versions, Slow down versions, like. 553 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,280 So one angle would be the they're trying to increase 554 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,160 engagement, right. Tiktoks then. 555 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,120 So Tiktoks using the slowed versions and the speed up 556 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,560 versions then when it comes to like instrumentals, acapellas, 557 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360 that's for us, you know that's for the producers, like 558 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,760 producers that that's really an invitation is. 559 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,880 It really because you can't really do anything with those 560 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,880 though. You can't. 561 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,000 But like people do still people will still use those 562 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,800 instrumentals and acapellas and make mixes and post them on 563 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,800 YouTube and it just spars engagement in that, right? 564 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:35,120 So, so I think 1 angle would be definitely to increase the life 565 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,200 cycle or the life, it's just the life of the song. 566 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,400 It's in itself because all these iterations of the song are 567 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,640 coming out. Another angle, which maybe like 568 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,880 like you kind of glanced on would be to increase the 569 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,680 streams. But then again, you look at the 570 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,040 numbers, the numbers don't really correlate, although one 571 00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,760 of them broke a million, but yeah, because the main song is 572 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,120 the one that's done most of the the bulk of the streams and. 573 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,680 There was a super low compared to that like the, the, the, 574 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,040 they're, they're not. But, but, but but then again you 575 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,240 know we live in a time when you know streaming. 576 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,880 To do well in streaming you have to have a high volume of 577 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,760 streams. So it could be that that's 578 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,920 that's kind of like even the the matter that a lot of artists 579 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,840 were doing. You look at like the Chris 580 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Brown's and whatever releasing albums that have 24 songs, It's 581 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,920 all a whole streaming game type of thing where you're you're 582 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,160 trying to game the system. So it could be a bit of that as 583 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,160 well mixed into it. But yeah, so for me those are 584 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,040 just like the surface level. It's really, it's really 585 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,960 interesting on your point. It's really interesting that 586 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800 even artists that are at that level, like Ariana Grande is 587 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000 like top 10 pop artists currently, right? 588 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,880 Maybe even higher than that. And they still have to if, if 589 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,360 that's where we're going, they still have to result to doing 590 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,920 the things that they that the the the bottom of the pile would 591 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,760 be the. Peons. 592 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 593 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120 You know, don't put me. I don't know why you just just 594 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680 jumped to putting. Me in that room, the peons like 595 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200 me, the peons. Now, now, I shouldn't have 596 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,040 pointed it out. I should have. 597 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,280 Just like, because now it looks like I'm trying to be elitist 598 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,840 and I'm not really elistic elitist musically, which is 599 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,040 stupid. I understand, and I hear you 600 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,680 often. I think what they're doing is 601 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,360 none of. That you receive I receive. 602 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,440 You receive what? Is I receive, I internalize and 603 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,160 absolutely throw it away because I don't think that's what I 604 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,080 digest. No, no, I digest no first. 605 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,200 I just first before I throw it away. 606 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,600 Yeah, first you digest. OK, I digest. 607 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,840 OK, so so now here's here's, here's my thoughts. 608 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:57,040 OK. I do think well from so I I came 609 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960 up across someone else's opinions and then opinions on it 610 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,960 and it made sense. I think what they're trying to 611 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:09,480 do is because because labels and artists place a lot of value in 612 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,560 being in in numbers not numbers in terms of like streaming, but 613 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,040 then being like a number one or winning that Grammy and and all 614 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,080 that stuff. So I do think that partly what 615 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,800 they're doing, if they are 14 versions, I think what they're 616 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,720 doing is first of all 14 versions, bro. 617 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,960 Like, that's crazy. What they're trying to do is 618 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,360 increase the increase their chances of getting like on a 619 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,880 billboard and they're probably trying to do that quickly, you 620 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720 know, And that's one way to do it because the more she's on and 621 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,280 she occupies, she would occupy a lot of spaces on on that list. 622 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000 And so, like, she's inevitable to be #1. 623 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,160 Now that's cool and that's fine. And we know the music industry 624 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,440 runs off numbers and it's not really about the art. 625 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,200 But personally, I feel like that kind of dilutes music. 626 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,960 When we're chasing numbers, I feel like it dilutes music. 627 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,840 So it's cool, like, and we've seen singles that have come out 628 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,120 with different versions. You have the edit, you have the 629 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,840 speed up window. But then when you have just a 630 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,320 whole bunch of things that obviously, well, to me obviously 631 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:19,080 looks like you're trying to trying to game the system in 632 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,520 that way. It just comes off as all right, 633 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,360 so at what, Do you guys really care about the music or are you 634 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,040 just chasing that number one spot? 635 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,360 And that's kind of where I'm stuck. 636 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520 Like I I appreciate a few versions. 637 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:37,320 I just don't know where the thought process lies. 638 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,480 Oh, the thought process lies in going for the number one rather 639 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120 than making the music itself greater. 640 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,600 Like that's what I would think would be more important. 641 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,080 I don't know if you have an opposing view, but that's kind 642 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,080 of what I mean. That's how I think about it. 643 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,679 Games. Just weird. 644 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,639 System man. Game The system? 645 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:58,880 Game the system? What do you mean like? 646 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,600 Like what do you mean Game The system. 647 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,920 Like, first of all, yeah, get all the number ones. 648 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,000 And first of all, Billboard is like, they just come up with 649 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560 rules. Like today they decide bundles 650 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,680 are not a thing, tomorrow they decide you know what bundles. 651 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,600 But isn't that, isn't that what do you call it? 652 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,520 an A point to not think about that anymore? 653 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,520 Because they're really just sleeping and waking up and 654 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,880 thinking, oh, let's do this, let's do that. 655 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,200 Like that makes it. Yeah. 656 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,640 Unstable. Yeah, so even me, I can. 657 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,680 Even me, I can. I can decide to play a game. 658 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,800 So I'm going to decide like, even like with Kenna Taylor 659 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,080 Swift, when they decided to sell, what did they do? 660 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,200 The four. You had to buy four different 661 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,840 albums. Yeah, no four different vinyls, 662 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640 but they had, it was the same album, but all of them. 663 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,280 You were building like a clock, so you had to buy four of them. 664 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,000 And I mean it's the same music, but you're just really like 665 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,360 gaming the system. They found a innovative way to 666 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,080 make people purchase more and therefore their numbers were way 667 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,160 up. You know what I mean? 668 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,680 Do you think play the game, You need to play the game like also 669 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,000 for Ariana's team, right? If you if you if you have like 670 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,040 and this is for all the music people like if your if your 671 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,560 music debuts top ten, number one. 672 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,320 If you get the number one album whatever that greatly impacts 673 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,400 your leverage for the next projects. 674 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,520 Because you see these people are in, are in they're in deals with 675 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,680 labels and so you go to the label you say listen my previous 676 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,440 project, my previous single, they build a number one. 677 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,200 This is how much I'm worth. This is how much you guys should 678 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,320 be investing in my next my next releases my blah blah blah blah 679 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040 blah. It gives you so much more 680 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,160 leverage when the numbers are on your site. 681 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,320 At what point does the start become important? 682 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,080 The art is always important, but the business is important. 683 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680 I'm sorry, I'm. I'm joking. 684 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,800 I'm joking. A little bit. 685 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,680 OK, OK, I'm joking. But I'm really not. 686 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,840 I'm. I'm joking, but I'm really not. 687 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,360 Like, that's just the thing. Music business is a huge thing 688 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,040 and there's a lot of money to be made. 689 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,200 That's really, honestly, a game is what it is. 690 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,440 It's annoying. There's so many careers at stake 691 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,880 outside of just the music, the artists themselves. 692 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,520 So yeah, man, there's there's a lot of money to me. 693 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,840 And these things can really greatly impact like, you know, 694 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,680 like you got a number one, you got another #1, then they put in 695 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,480 way more so then also, but also listen, it goes back into the 696 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520 art because if they're investing, like if they would 697 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,680 have invested 100,000 into your next single, but then you got 698 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,760 the number ones, you have the meetings, they see, OK, you know 699 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,360 what, your high value will invest 200,000. 700 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,080 That gives you the leeway to create even better art with 701 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,760 better facilities. Have more studio time, right? 702 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,440 Right. So even the art can be. 703 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640 I don't know man. I don't know. 704 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,960 I just don't agree. I just, I hear you. 705 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080 I just don't agree. So, so I'll just read something. 706 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,400 So someone had had commented on this and like while while this 707 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,800 is not new to to, it's not new to artists, right? 708 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,280 Like this is something that's done so it's a common practice 709 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,640 these days for major musicians to employ this plan to ensure 710 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,880 that the biggest debut possible on the Billboard charts, which 711 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,880 we know. So that means that the sale of 712 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,960 all 14 versions of high. Yes and will be grouped together 713 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,960 into one release. So it's it's again, it's it's 714 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,560 still the numbers game. Even though they're playing for 715 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,520 the number one or whatever. They're still that number one is 716 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,880 still going to bring in money, right? 717 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,120 So fans have the option to buy all of them. 718 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,520 However, the problem with this it's it's once when they do 719 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,760 this, very obviously it takes away from the organics and the 720 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:50,920 magic of the wind and organics and magic is is is closer to 721 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,160 artistry than the business side of it. 722 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,240 I don't know if that makes sense. 723 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,360 It's just, it's like, it's just it seems like a very obvious, 724 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,760 like you can look at it and you're like, OK, this is 725 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,800 obviously a play. So now artists are like, all 726 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080 right, I know what your goal is here. 727 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,520 And it's not, It seems like it's not just the music. 728 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,840 And some people don't mind. Other people are like, I don't 729 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,000 care. I'm of the mind of the of the 730 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,400 side. I mean, I'm at the side where 731 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,480 like, I don't know. I feel like I don't know, bro. 732 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,120 Listen. Hey, I get it. 733 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,320 Listen this. Song, I get it, but I just don't 734 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,040 like it. That's it. 735 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,200 I get it. I just don't like it. 736 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,480 And that's fair. Yeah. 737 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,640 Listen, Sam, I receive what you're saying and I you have 738 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000 received it to your point of view, Have you internalized it? 739 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,920 I am currently. Digesting it all right, Yeah. 740 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,040 Anyway, Speaking of music, I don't know if there's anything. 741 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,600 Of music, new music, Sam. What were the artists from 742 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,280 Canada? We need to bring back remixes. 743 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,120 Compelling. Like remixes have fallen off. 744 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,400 We need to bring back remixes bro. 745 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,160 Just give us like a remix version. 746 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,400 Don't give us a slow version, a speed up version. 747 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,440 Just give us the song and the remix. 748 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,520 Still going on about that Mia was already. 749 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,280 In new you had moved on. Oh my bad. 750 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,560 Hey new music. Shout out to Casey of course we 751 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,160 will load him here on the podcast. 752 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,760 Casey. I mean Casey. 753 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160 If you don't know Casey Casey has who was who was on Kanye's 754 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,400 Donder album he's been on. He's worked with numerous 755 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,680 different people up there and he recently just released a song 756 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,240 with Joey Bad. I say Joey Bad. 757 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,200 Oh man, that's bad. Called passports and suitcase, 758 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,440 suitcases, Passport. I want to get it right. 759 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,240 I just found. I found his real name. 760 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,360 Can I do I put his government? I don't know. 761 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,560 Dog, Do you? I don't know. 762 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,360 But it's right there. It's on Wikipedia. 763 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,760 Oh, OK Well, if it's public information, then we can make it 764 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:49,120 public, I guess. Mark Macora, Bogo. 765 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,360 AKAKC Pluto. Yeah, yeah, there's actually, I 766 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,760 watched an interview of his. I watched an interview of his 767 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,360 where he, he he explained the name Casey. 768 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,880 I don't particularly remember it, so I probably shouldn't have 769 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,920 brought it up, Brought it up. But you said. 770 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,640 I think he got that from his Mama. 771 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,440 Shout out to Casey, man. Shout out to Casey. 772 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,400 Passports and suitcases. It's just cool to see. 773 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,560 Winsborough, man, I listened to this and I was like, this is so 774 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,720 familiar and obviously they they used the instrumental, what they 775 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,160 added like the drums were different but they used the good 776 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,800 and plenty instrumental by Alex Isley. 777 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,360 There was also a remix with Alex Isley and Marsejo. 778 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:37,400 Marsejo, it's Marsego and no, no, it's you're you're supposed 779 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,120 to pronounce it Marcel like that. 780 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,840 Anyway, he said he did. He. 781 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,560 Yeah. Anyway, the song was originally 782 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,440 produced by Jack Dine. Jack Dine is so fired. 783 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,920 Like, I've literally spent hours trying to produce like Jack 784 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,760 Dine. But yeah, shout out. 785 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,800 Shout out to everything that happened to make this release a 786 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,120 thing. Fire Sarul is a song called 787 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,640 Pande Pande Ile. I was going to say pande Ile, 788 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,840 but pande Ile. I think it matters how you say 789 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,320 words in Swahili. That side. 790 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,840 That side yes shout to her Bien and it's Yaba released a song 791 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,680 called Nashanga is produced by So Fresh is on the beat. 792 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,000 I really like that Nashanga. Are you shocked when you 793 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,560 listened to the song? No, I wasn't. 794 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,680 I wasn't. Not. 795 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,160 Not at all. Jeez. 796 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,560 So it's Saba, It's Yaba. Rather it's Saba, it's Yaba. 797 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,240 Says that he has his. He's trying to do well. 798 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,440 His version of music is called Benga. 799 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,240 Oh no. Was it called? 800 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,800 Let me not get that right. That that wrong. 801 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,720 Is it Roomba Cane? Not Benga cane. 802 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,360 I don't know what I was saying. Benga Roomba cane. 803 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,520 Oh, Roomba. So Roomba and sugar cane, 804 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,360 apparently, is what it's in the bio. 805 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,040 Because it's sweet. Sweet, sweet music. 806 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,880 So I really enjoyed that. BN is always a good listen. 807 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,840 I think they they they did a really cool it was. 808 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,120 It's a cool collaboration, man. I enjoy that. 809 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,640 I'd like to listen to that outside Boutros booty. 810 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,520 What's what is the nicknames? Do you know does he have any? 811 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,720 OK, so Boutros Boutros released a song called Intro Freestyle. 812 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:18,520 If it's called Intro Freestyle, then I think we can think, oh, 813 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,320 we have the the the, what do you call it the the free reign to 814 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,400 hypothesize, hypothesize that maybe, I don't know why. 815 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,200 I just feel like there shouldn't be extra syllables on that word, 816 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,840 but they are so intro freestyle by Boutros. 817 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,160 Is that the intro to the album? Could it be? 818 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400 Yeah, I think so. I think he mentioned that 819 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,600 Contendo is on the way. That's fine. 820 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,320 So definitely looking forward to that. 821 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,360 Looking forward to the the, the jobs and the eventual project. 822 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,920 So yeah, that's super cool. What else? 823 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,280 Nick Agessa released a song called Susanna that was 824 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,800 interesting to listen to. Share it here by Dark Lord 825 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,520 Colossal music and landmark that was also released. 826 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Did you say Lady Fiona? I did in fact, not Saudi soul as 827 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,840 well. I did not. 828 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,320 No. Yeah, Saudi soul. 829 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,960 So I saw still dropping music. I thought they disbanded. 830 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,560 Yeah, yeah, what? But it is still didn't drop in 831 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,640 music. It's a different sort of soul. 832 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,880 There was Lily by Kushman. Yeah, received that with the 833 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,440 mixed received. Internalized. 834 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,480 Received. Digested. 835 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,840 Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 836 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:41,640 There was Jungle Walk by the angels. 837 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,800 Aziz and Kellerkind actually. It does this released twice 838 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,200 because the 2nd. Is game. 839 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:53,400 Limbi oh Limbi by Barnino Lackwister and it Aziz. 840 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,640 That was my I was popping to that. 841 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:59,920 Yeah, bro, that was my cup of Chinese bro. 842 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,200 That was just so like the melody. 843 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,520 Just everything. I I really, really enjoyed 844 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,840 listening to that man. So shout out to everyone who was 845 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,320 involved in fire. I don't even usually listen to 846 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,800 EDM like that, but like that one was like that was. 847 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,800 That's cool man. Dance stuff. 848 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,280 Yeah, that was cool. Shout out to it, hopefully you 849 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,920 can get you can catch one too. Oh, and then lastly, I listened 850 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:29,520 to 925 with Liki and Mr. Wright, Mr. Wright from Brooklyn Boys. 851 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,440 So yeah, that was hard. It was a it was a tough listen. 852 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,880 So shout out to them. Fireman fire I think for the for 853 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,040 for of course we didn't mention it so Blinky Bill is is coming 854 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,800 out with his. I mean it's coming out he's 855 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,680 dropping his. I think it's next week, this 856 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,440 week, this week, Friday. When you're listening to this 857 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,920 this week, Friday, he's dropping. 858 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,840 Sometime this month. Yeah, he's dropping. 859 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,600 We cut keys. I think that's the name of it. 860 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040 We cut keys too. So yeah. 861 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,600 So he dropped a single off the project. 862 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,800 It's called Get the Paper and I Boy, oh boy. 863 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,240 Should I tell you the funk on this was crazy. 864 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:09,200 Like the bounce, the swing. It's produced by him and another 865 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,760 artist, Emok who I don't know if you've talked about him before. 866 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,080 I don't think we've talked. About. 867 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,480 Him. We've got him backwards. 868 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,320 Shout out to him this, I really enjoyed man. 869 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,440 The instrumental, the instrumental of this, of this, 870 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,080 of this joint. First of all it just gets you 871 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,680 moving immediately. I can just get you moving. 872 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,560 It wastes no time to get you to the groove. 873 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,920 So yeah, I really enjoyed get the paper and just makes me 874 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,040 excited to see what he's he has for the project. 875 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,280 Of course, Blinky Bill, if you all don't know is is is it one 876 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,880 quarter 1/3? I should get this right of just 877 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,800 a band. The legendary. 878 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,840 The legendary Just a band. So it's always cool. 879 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,160 It's cool to hear music from either one of them. 880 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,840 Jim at the last a couple last last year it was the end. 881 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,760 Jim. Jim Tutu released some music. 882 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,320 It's good to see Blinky Bill releasing music. 883 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,520 Remember, we played, we played just about in the podcast. 884 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,040 Yeah. So from the echo I think the 885 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,040 thing was called echo. Yeah, it was. 886 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,240 And Jim released solo music. Also released solo music. 887 00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:10,480 We also talked about that. Yeah. 888 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,600 So I think for this episode we shall play Blinky Bills. 889 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,240 Get the paper. It's a fire song. 890 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,760 Shout out to you, Blinky. Here is Get the Paper by Blinky 891 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:40,480 Bill, wake up. 892 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,400 Time to get the paper I've been sleeping on myself. 893 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,840 I see that fashion killer under 14. 894 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,680 Tell him on a joke but looking at the time. 895 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,240 Put it in the land. Something in the air is a 896 00:47:52,240 --> 00:48:08,680 magical place that he helped the 897 00:48:54,040 --> 00:49:37,240 the Oh yeah, wake up. 898 00:49:37,400 --> 00:50:28,880 Time to get the paper that was got the paper by Blinky 899 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,280 Bill. Extremely, extremely funky 900 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,080 music. That bass line, bro. 901 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,200 And then the random really like the random horns. 902 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,520 The random sound like French horns. 903 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,640 They're just so fireman. It sounds very well produced, 904 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,880 sounds very well produced. Shout out to him and shout out 905 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,840 to him levelling up the production game. 906 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,440 Yep, Sam, how does it feel to complete yet another episode of 907 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,240 the 30% Podcast? 60 minutes of fame are over. 908 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,920 Yeah, I was 60 minutes of fable over, but before they completely 909 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,560 end, I wanted to just point. The completely. 910 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,920 Attention. One more thing before they. 911 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,600 Completely end one more thing. Did did you ever watch Jackie 912 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,160 Chan? That's that's a reference. 913 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:21,240 One more thing, Eddie glad to see we can relate. 914 00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:25,680 We're we're men of the culture. Men of culture, Men of culture. 915 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:32,720 But seriously, one more thing. I mean, we we, we can't oversee 916 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:37,920 the just the the recent state of affairs, especially affecting 917 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,600 women within the country and just wanted to point out that 918 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,640 it's unfortunate that women have to like, experience these 919 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,680 things. And you know, all as we can do 920 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,480 as men is support and empathy because like, you know, for me 921 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,760 as a man, like I don't, I have have to do so much mental maths, 922 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,040 just living my life for women do when they're when they're 923 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,560 entering maths, when they're when they're walking outside and 924 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,800 all that type of stuff they have to do, all this type of stuff. 925 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,520 And it's unfortunate for the, you know, the women that have 926 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,280 lost their lives. In the past few weeks we've 927 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,080 heard about the Airbnb stuff that happened and that stuff is 928 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,960 definitely despicable. It's it's it's evil and 929 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,600 craziness and it's femicide like the women have been pointing 930 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,800 out. And there is a March on the 931 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:39,520 27th, which is a Saturday I believe next Saturday I believe 932 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:46,240 organized by Usikimi. And essentially it's a walk just 933 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:50,080 to kind of end the femicide that's been going on. 934 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,920 And Sam and I just felt like it's something that we should 935 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,840 just point out and and just kind of see and bring to attention 936 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:04,640 using our platform and femicide in Kenya and let's protect our 937 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:10,120 women, let's let's just be more responsible with how we care 938 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,880 about women and how we treat women and. 939 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,960 Be more responsible with life overall, I think. 940 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,840 Yeah, with live. Yeah. 941 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,040 So we just wanted to point that out and just point out the the 942 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:27,920 March that's happening. And yeah, but yeah, Sam, you 943 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,080 know that was this was 60. That, that that was. 944 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,920 Unfortunately, it's this. But hey, back. 945 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,680 I mean, not, not that it doesn't matter, but then let's end it 946 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,560 till now, yeah? Yeah, I know. 947 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,320 But bro, listen, Episode 60 episode. 948 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,480 We're now in the 60s. We're now in our 60s. 949 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,280 The building is really showing. We're now a psychedelic Oh, 950 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,080 actually I didn't think of when our psychedelic era like you 951 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,200 know how people did psychedelics in the 60s LSD, like the culture 952 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,040 was on the. Rise Was that in the 60s? 953 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,000 Yeah, that was not. The 70s, I feel like. 954 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,840 I feel like the Hebrew wasn't the 70s. 955 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,680 No, it was the 60s. That's when it started. 956 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,120 Part of telling me that very 60s is very, very sternly. 957 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,720 So I'm guess I guess it's telling the truth. 958 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,600 Yeah, matter of Factly. Yes, Sam, Like I am saying, I am 959 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,800 internalizing it. I have digested it and I agree. 960 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,960 And you're receiving, I've received it night. 961 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,800 Yep. Nice. 962 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,680 Why can't I? I said Rice and then I said 963 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,480 night. I I can't speak anyway. 964 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,200 That might be an indication to end the podcast. 965 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,320 That is an indication. It's also because I'm hungry. 966 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,640 It's lunchtime. Stomach is wrong. 967 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,520 Don't say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 968 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,480 I will beat. You guys like yawning? 969 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,040 Well, you see one man hungry. All right, man. 970 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:50,880 Let's end, Let's end. Let's get out of here. 971 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,160 But hey, thank you everyone for listening to this. 972 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,240 We, we are, we we do this, we can you know highlight Kenyan 973 00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:58,720 music in the Kenyan industry and. 974 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,680 Guys like you're because it's contagious. 975 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:01,320 Sorry. Yes. 976 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:07,000 So we can, we can. So we can you know highlight 977 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,080 Kenyan music and put some of some some of the things that 978 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,360 aren't on the map, on the map. If you know people who are 979 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,040 influencers and you know who are who are influencers in the music 980 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,600 industry, these are conversations to have with them. 981 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,320 There's a you can point them to the broadcast. 982 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,120 Hey there's two guys talking about it online. 983 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,200 But yeah, we just we we really enjoy doing this and bringing 984 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,480 this to you and we hope that our goals in just and playing our 985 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,960 part to make sure the Kenyan industry grows and and just is 986 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,000 better for all involved. We hope that yes. 987 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,680 Sorry Bob are achieved. Thank you for listening. 988 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,800 Bye. What's wrong? 989 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,520 Yes, sorry, Bob, what's that?