We're having a peaceful situation.
One have to pick your to tear gas.
One have to pick to Melissa. Where do you have to kill us?
That will go be reject your bill, reject your bill, reject
your bill. What's up everyone?
Welcome to the 30% podcast. My name is Sam.
I am here with Affirm. This is episode 8282, right?
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We talk about everything around it Today.
We won't be talking necessarily about, not necessarily about the
music industry, but about the things around it.
A lot, a lot has been happening. Reject your bill.
Reject your. That's a shout to Sabi.
Woo man. He, I mean he was really quick
with it bro, like. Yeah, yeah.
It's a smart move. It's a smart move for an artist.
I'm saying it's a smart move for an artist because obviously that
song is raining number one in the world.
So it is, yeah. To use it for social change is
fire. Timing Yep, timing wise he he he
killed it, but like also like the thing about Sabi Woo that's
interesting is like his bars are also very funny.
So he he mixes in this song seriousness with also a little
bit of humor, but like it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's important like his his he's definitely highlighting the
a lot of people are highlighting just the the need.
I think, I think we're becoming a lot more conscious in how we
speak about some of these things.
Kenya is a very there's a lot of like jokes and it's cool.
It's a cool jokey culture, but a lot of people are very like
serious and and and when still throwing jokes in there.
Twitter has been a light. We'll talk about that.
But then, yeah, it's really cool.
I think it's really cool to see, especially artists, right, Get
out, but we'll get to that. AFAM, what's going on, man?
How are you doing? How are you doing despite the
circumstances? I mean, how's your mental
health? As well as well as I can be in
these trying times man. Definitely it's it sucks to be
so far away from home when everything is happening man.
Yeah. You know.
How does that feel though? Like do you feel powerless?
I mean like running through your mental.
Process yeah, you feel you feel powerless, but like also I'm.
I'm really like, you know, emboldened by just the digital
activism that's happening at this current moment like and you
know that's what we can do as well as also contributing to
specific causes. So you just have to like, be in
solidarity. And, you know, actually that's
one of the positives about activism in 2024, and that's
maybe one of the things that our government is realizing is very
different, is like this battle, this revolution is going to be
fought both on the streets and on the Internet.
And so, you know, at least like for those people who can't be
physically there, like the Internet is a powerful tool,
especially when I was seeing like that reject Finance Bill
2024 hashtag gets over 2 million.
I'm I'm pretty sure it might have even gotten to 3,000,000.
But like, yeah, when I saw it, like when it was trending, it
was like over 2 million. And I was just like, wow, like
the power of the Internet is insane.
So yeah, I'm doing as well as I can.
Interestingly enough, I've been very creative.
And it's just a function of like, you know, like, brah,
it's, it's a, it's a time where there's just so much anxiety and
stuff like that. And I feel like music has been a
good outlet and I've been able to just kind of like also just
channel like all that frustration and anxiety and
stuff like that and just be creative.
And interestingly enough, this past week I've been the most
creative I've been in a in a minute.
And I hope it will pay dividends in the future.
But yeah, other than that, like, brah, I'm, I'm, I'm me
personally, I found the person is doing OK.
I found the person. I found the Kenyan is is just.
You know, they're doing as well as all Kenyans are doing.
Yeah, Yeah. Some of the best music is is on
on that last point you made. Some of the best music is
birthed through pain. Yeah, it's true.
So yeah, well, that's good, man. I I.
Sam, how are you doing? How was your week?
Week was the beginning, so in the beginning it of the week it
started. It started off slow, started off
chill. There's something that I've been
really hoping to do that I kind of kick started.
So that was like very, very like for some reason that just
unlocked a weird, it's like a part of my brain was locked
because there's something I've been wanting to do, but I
haven't done it yet. And so once I started that
process, it kind of just unlocked that door and it's like
fresh air just, you know, a little like when it's a stuffy,
OK, no, no, I don't know. I don't know if you can, if
there are my tattoos in Texas, it's a stuffy, stuffy matatos.
And then the conductor opens the door and then it's like cool air
enters. So that's what happened to me.
And then it slowly, slowly started getting started getting
a little bit dicey, like with the whole just, I don't know
that call it an uprising. This, this distressed unrest.
It's unrest, not distressed unrest and everything happening
those there were protests in town, protests online.
There's a lot going on. It all came together for me, I
guess. On when was it?
Friday, Saturday. Saturday was it?
Yeah, on. No, it was no, no, the protest
was Thursday. The protest was yes, the protest
was the protest was Thursday. Friday was cool.
I think it was Saturday. Yeah, I think it was Saturday
where I think, I don't know, I, I, I probably let a lot of and
I'm just being, this is just being honest, transparent to me.
I'm a psychologist, so I don't have a problem sharing like
emotional stuff. A lot of things just got, I
think it just ended up getting to me just seeing what was
happening and how sort of things were playing out in terms of the
protests and and what was happening both on Twitter.
Actually, it was more more what was happening on Twitter than
what was happening on the ground that really started to affect
me. And I don't know it, it kind of
triggered some some anxiety and just trying to because I think
naturally I feel like I am an activist, but I don't do much
like outward activism. It's like inward activism in my
head. And maybe that's a bad thing.
And so if you all the questions that we're asking, like it's
questions I ask myself over and over again, like, what on earth?
Why are we being treated like fools?
Why are politicians doing this? Why is it that money?
Why, why is no one asking these questions?
And so when you see these things happening, then you start seeing
the repercussions from them. And, and of course we'll talk
about them. But then like people going
missing and, and some losing their lives.
It just, it really just affected me up to the point where I find
it difficult to eat. I went to bed starving because I
just like farm. I don't, I don't want to eat
right now. Like eating doesn't seem
important. A lot of things don't seem
important at this moment. But today, I guess that's slowly
lifted and it's still there. It's still a weird tension, I
guess in me of just trying, just hoping.
It's a hope, you know, it's a hope that things go well.
Yeah. But yeah, so.
But apart from that, I'm doing cool.
I realized that it's really important to be around people,
man. Like I've been mostly solo
during this time and that doesn't help.
Like it's really important to be around people and and just have
some sort of support and go through this in community so
that you're not alone. And because your mind can become
an echo chamber, it could drive drive you crazy.
But that's that man, Hey. Well, you should know you're not
alone. We're all in this together, man.
And that's also, I think one of the beautiful things that have
come out of this port, this protest, sorry, this is one of
the beautiful things that have come out of this protest is that
a lot of us have banded together in a way that I never thought
possible. You know, back in 2022, man, I
feel like there was, there was a lot of apathy in our generation
and the generation after the Gen.
Z's. Like, I feel like a lot of us
weren't very engaged with the political landscape.
And obviously that was a mistake.
But I think now there is no doubt in my heart that every
single youth in the country is going to come out to vote in
2027. Quite frankly, I wish change
could happen sooner. I feel like 2027 is too far
away. I would love if this kind of
government was out tomorrow. But like, I don't know if that's
possible or feasible. But you never know.
It would be so amazing. Anyway, I feel like one of the
great things that have has come out is there is a togetherness.
And I just wanted to say that to say that, bro, like, yes, you
are going through these feelings and emotions of anxiety and
uncertainty and hoping that the best comes out of everything.
But you're not facing those thoughts by yourself though, you
know? Yeah.
And and I wanted to get. Sorry, hold on.
I just just just to to round that up.
I think with with the anxiety, I'm not having anxiety and
cowering away. It's, it's almost like a
positive anxiety where it's like, OK, I don't know what's
happening, but I'm glad that it's happening.
You know, like I'm happy that, that we're going through some of
these things because it's a road to change, some change.
And so it's, it's a positive, it's a hopeful anxiety rather
than I'm just reframing it in my mind rather than sitting around
cowering. And we should not, I know a lot
of people might be dealing with it and we'll maybe not talk
about it. It's important to talk about
these things, right? But talk about try and reframe
the anxiety in your mind from being, oh, I'm scared that these
things are going to happen to being, yeah, this stuff that's
happening is kind of crazy. It's, it's a wild world out
there. It's treacherous times.
But there's a positive that could come out of it.
And so we don't attack, we don't, we don't manoeuvre that
anxiety with fear, but with faith.
I think I spoke about that towards the end of our last, our
last podcast as we go through anxiety with fear, I mean, with
faith, not fear. So yeah, man.
Yeah. So I wanted to lead this
conversation with, you know, obviously we are a music
podcast. And so just to get into it, I
wanted to just highlight the artists that have been using
their platforms responsibly for, you know, this whole movement
and uprising against our our government.
And one of them is charisma. Yeah.
Heat.
That's the voice you heard in the beginning of the podcast?
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he used to be part
of the band, but now he is solo. Less solo.
And yeah, and, and bro, he's, he's done so much like
documenting of his experience out there fighting for our, our
rights with every like as every Kenyan is doing as well.
And I've seen a lot of outpouring of positivity towards
him of people saying, yo, y'all should stream his music and
stuff like that because this guy is, is actually like out there
like. Fighting and.
That's that's people, people that's positive and I don't
know, good. No, people want people.
People want to make you more successful and they want to like
pay for your music and stuff wants to see that you want once
you relate and it's it's it's the music business once and
that's why people do a lot of marketing is once you are not
indeed, then this is not at all that conversation right, but.
It's not marketing. Yeah, no, he's not doing this
with the. Marketing, but once when you
make yourself more relatable to people, they want to support you
and this is how it is. And so him being out on the
streets and taking tear gas to the eyes is definitely like, all
right. So it humanizes, you know,
someone who you would have previously thought is not
necessarily on that level. Yeah.
It does and it's and it's important.
It's important because people look up to charisma.
You know, I've, I've seen even nameless and well who are there
as well. I've seen so many, I've seen so
many artists like out there like protesting.
And it's important. It's important because there's
so many people who you influence and those people look up to you
and it's good. It's good to see that the people
who we give these platforms, yeah, using the, you know, using
the Stitch and the, the, the platforms that they have to kind
of push. More than just via music, yeah.
Are which are definitely necessary and are contributing
to just like the wider country, the the wider Canyon, just
everyone, everyone needs to be part of this conversation.
So the greatest story yeah the greatest story.
So it's tough to see people like Charisma out there.
And then also using your platform via music.
I've seen so many people release songs that are addressing the
Finance Bill. I mean, in the intro to this
podcast, we played Reject Your Bill by Sabi Wu.
I mean occupied the streets by Trio Mio Sam, do you know my mum
sent randomly on WhatsApp, She sends me this and she's like, I
thought you'd like this because these are the type of beats you
make. And I was like, oh, interest.
And she said I never in my life did I think my mum would send
you. Send your trio Mio joint.
Yeah, that's crazy. That shit was, it was
circulating in the WhatsApp groups, man.
And it was like. But that's powerful.
It's powerful. I mean, and scene, I mean scene
Bien there's I mean there's a legendary song that's that's
that we used to fight sort of what do you call it?
Not fight the power. But then like political
commentary, which is is called to Jiangalia, right by by South
de Sol and Nashinsky, if I'm not wrong.
I mean, just seeing him like he performed that again, like with
the guitar and everything. And the song has just been
circulating. Yeah.
And there's many more that we've not mentioned.
Yeah. I mean, and even our busy.
Our busy released a song. As well that was, that was.
Interesting to me, everybody. That was interesting to me.
Listen like I want to hear reject your bill in in auto tune
like I'm here. Yeah, exactly bro, bro.
So many people have used their platform and we had a a podcast
about activism in music and listen, it's so impactful.
My mum is sending me a Tiomio song as a factor of that.
Like it kind, it kind of goes to show like how important music is
because it kind of like makes the it's it's you can make the
theme song of the like whenever. Soundtracks 2 star tracks 2
Revolution period. Exactly.
The soundtracks to Revolutions are very, very important man.
And I just wanted to highlight like the the artists I've seen
like kind of use their platform in this way and.
Yeah, and we mentioned it. We're also just seeing artists
out there, seeing artists out there with the people, mingling
with the people, not necessarily having 500 people around them
talking about them fighting for fighting for Kenyans.
And you're, you're protected. You know, nothing is going to
touch you, but you're actually there on the ground, which is
very cool. It level levels all of us.
And you're just as important as the person who consumes your
music. You're just as important as the
person fighting for their rights.
It's all our rights we're fighting for, you know, it's all
of us. And it's important to remember
that now is now. That's really not the time to be
releasing this track. But anyway.
Leave. Leave that one alone right
there. Just that's enough, we need to
say. Yeah, that's just that.
That's all that needs to be said.
That's all that needs to be said about that.
So one thing that's weighing heavy.
But I'll give it to myself. Yeah, One thing that's weighing
really heavy on my heart right now is the loss.
You know, the first one, Rex Maasai, man, it hit me, man,
because he's he's my age. And I was like, brah, that could
have been me. That could have been you.
That could have been. I literally could have been
anyone on that street. It could have been anyone on any
St. At all.
Which raises the question, why are they even shooting live
rounds out of in a peace peaceful protest?
It's it's so scary. And obviously as well, Evans
Kiratu also got hit by a tear gas canister and passed away.
And if anything, we can't. What 20?
One legacies, Yeah, he was young.
We can't, we can't let their, we can't let their legacies just
like go like that, man. But also don't forget over 200
people have been injured in these protests across.
We're not hearing, yeah, we're not hearing that.
We're not hearing that story a lot like that's not been been,
of course, the people who passed away publicized.
Yeah, it's, it's going to be like make the major news.
But then we're not hearing of the many people who've been
injured and who need blood. If you're, if you're able to
donate blood, if you're able to, to get to some of those
stations, like it's, it's really important to do that.
I think a lot of people do need it.
And yeah, if you're able to do it, like we just again,
encourage you to, to go out there and do that.
But yeah, I mean, you're, we're out here and just holding up a
placard, trying to hold your government accountable, probably
with your friends in your mind, you know, you're making change
and the next minute you're not around.
That has to be one of the scariest thing.
I mean, you don't leave. You're leaving the house not
thinking that you're not coming back.
It's a peaceful protest. Why, why, why are we?
Why is why is it a thing? Why, why, why are people dying
in in a nonviolent protest? What's that about?
I'm going to see now. I should have started a short
circuit again. My brain is I said to get heated
again. No, quite frankly, it shouldn't
be the case. And I and and I can't believe
that well, as of us recording this podcast that that policeman
who shot him hasn't been like nothing has happened and there
are no repercussions. Hopefully by the time this
podcast comes out, that will be a different story.
But you're here. How is he just out there roaming
the streets? That's a criminal who has shot
an innocent. Completely innocent of the
country, unarmed. He had a bottle of water his and
his ID on him. What?
Yeah, that's that's actually disgusting.
It's. Really sad because now what do
you tell his? What do you tell his his folks?
What do you tell his mom? I was looking at pictures of her
I. Was so sad I saw pictures of
broke my heart. That's exactly where I was.
Broke my heart. I saw pictures of that and all I
could see was my mum in that instant.
And I'm like, imagine how my mum would be like just seeing me
like on the like in the Mortuary, like in the clothes.
She so believed the house in. Man, it's, it's, it's painful.
Yeah, and, and, and I guess we should, I guess we shouldn't
dwell on the on the negativity of it because what it shows is
bravery. They were out there and there,
you know, and there's so many people.
So, so even even some of the artists, man, it's really brave
to know that you're and I was just thinking about this
recently is artists tend to be like the government could look
at them and say, OK, like you're the, you know how there's,
there's almost like a hunt for who is the one leading the
protests and who's sponsoring the protests.
And it's very easy. Yeah, it's very easy to.
It's very easy to point towards, oh, look at the artists because
they have influence already and to point to them.
And then you're targeted just because, because you brought,
you have that. It's like a pre influence
already. So it's very brave of them to be
out there fighting for change. Not just artists, but people who
are part of the culture, people who are recognisable, not just
musicians. There's dancers, there's people
in museum, instrumentalists, there's videographers.
There's so many people out there who are who who want their voice
to be heard. So shout out to them.
Yeah, it's dangerous. And I love how I love how I love
how there's no like there's no one face to this whole.
No, no, no, like it's. Very decentralized.
They don't know who to come for. Like they, they just, you know,
like it's there's no leader, like we're all doing this.
And it's so hilarious to me that they think that people are being
paid or this is being funded by anyone.
No, listen, we hate this government for free.
You had, and I think you had mentioned it, you had said it
earlier, you said it earlier, how, how people, I mean, the,
the, the, the, the generation, we've been quiet and we don't
have political affiliations. And so we've been quiet about
things. But it's that quietness and that
just frustration that has been building and building and
building and building that has led to this.
It's like, all right, cool. Like you guys are clearly just,
you guys are clearly, because this is not the first year
there's been a Finance Bill, by the way, there's finance bills
every year. But this time, yeah, this time
we're just looking at it like, OK fam, you guys literally don't
care, so. It was the last stroke.
If you guys want to help Rex's family man, I know people were
circulating his mum's number which you can send anything that
you can it it would go a long way.
For sure. That number is 0722238122.
Send whatever you can. You know, we just need to do the
little that we can to kind of like help because that could
have been anyone. I haven't seen too much
information of how we can directly help Ivan Skiratu and
his family. I'm sure that will come up.
So just keep your keep your eyes open for that.
Keep your eyes open for for that online, especially on XA lot of
this has been done on on Twitter slash X and yeah, and shout out
again, just a big shout out to the brave people who are sort of
not necessarily leading on that front, but just being an
amplifier and organizing one thing that that that.
Speaking of. Yeah.
Go ahead, Sir. No, just about the one thing
that was really, really, really good to see was this.
The the Spaces that was the Twitter Spaces that was held was
yesterday, not sorry, not just on Saturday.
On Saturday, I'm giving myself was the spaces that was held on
Saturday and just seen droves and droves of people I don't
know, I mean. At the time At the time Billy
was still his whereabouts were. Unknown.
And so a lot of it was driven by that as well.
Yeah, driven by that. And then and then just it, it's
just turned into people coming out and airing their
frustrations and. There was No Fear.
Oh, man, at some point, I, I, I mean, I, I wasn't going to leave
this like I was, I was actually on the spaces from, I think I
might have joined mid morning, I want to say maybe 11:00 or 12:00
PM And I stayed on it until 12:00 AM when, when it, when it
was closing down, of course, on and off because there's a bunch
of stuff I was doing. But then I was paying attention
and then not, and then paying attention not.
But people were on there just telling the truth and I was.
That was really good to see. Yeah, politicians, some, some
some MPs were jumping in there and they were being flamed, bro.
Like. Because they're in there for all
of all of what, 12 seconds? They will not believe, they will
not believe and they really hate all these people.
Yeah, yeah. We're, we're, we're it's, it's
unified. We, we don't have a specific
target target. It's like not, it's where our
target is corruption. That's that's who we're going
against. So the shoe fits.
And it's. Put it on, you know.
It's, it's, it's so. It's so good to see how many
people in the international community are also picking up
this story. The biggest shock to be was
seeing an anonymous video that was and I was like, is this the
real anonymous? And I was like.
I went to check. I went to check like I went.
To also vary. I saw the mask.
I was like, no, wait, it can't be.
And then I went check. I was like, hey, yo, this is
fire. This is This is.
Fire. And they're just like,
greetings, citizens of the world.
This is a warning message to William Ruto.
I was like, bro, this smoke. I wonder who recorded that?
I wonder what? I wonder what mic they used to
record that joint. The part I love.
Was like. They said soon there will be an
uprising of hackers, many of whom may reside in your home
country. Your secrets may no longer be
safe. And there is a chance that all
these secrets will be exposed to show how corrupt and unjust
members of this parliament are embezzling public funds for
personal gain. And I'm like, bro, I'm sure this
got to rooters table and I'm I'm sure he's been like, he'd be
wondering like what the fuck? Because like bro, I just, I must
think. People to do some.
Research I could hack bro would be hacking away.
Sam, you don't understand. That.
You're hacking away right now. This is diving into numbers.
Any and every computer you can find.
Yeah, e-mail. Things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For real man, like oh bro, but I
love I love the the audacity of the youth in in Kenya right now,
bro, we are so auditions as like having all these numbers D Ming
them messaging them on WhatsApp, a lot of politicians.
Posting, posting the screenshots, you know, some of
the screenshots are hilarious. And, and, and it's on the other
side of that, some, some of the, some of our politicians,
honestly, these are people we've put into power.
Some of these guys are rude. Just ridiculously rude.
Like just just brazen about their rudeness and.
OK, lack of So Speaking of of. Intelligence.
Speaking of rude politicians, I guess I'm speaking you can talk
about. I'm scared.
I don't know where this is going.
Why Speaking of no when you start with Speaking of rude
politicians, I'm like, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, but these are rude. So.
So one thing, one thing that's been weighing heavily on my mind
is politics. And Kimani Ishungua, who is
currently the leader of the majority in parliament, was kind
of clipped talking about the fact that the people going out
for the protest, Gen. Z12, will after the protest, go
and have KFC. Three, they will have filmed the
protest on their iPhones. And four, they would have
arrived at the protest and consequently left using Ubers.
Ubers. So where's the problem?
I find this very interesting. I find this very interesting
actually, because it just kind of goes to show what politics is
all about. And listen, I'm not a person who
is, who has prior to like this, been very interested about the
like psychology of politics, but it's very interesting.
I feel like politics is all about divisiveness and dividing
people. Definite one of the major.
Factors there was a it is and I feel like there was some
conversation around this on Twitter and one thing that's
really beautiful about this current generation that's
protesting is tribe tribalism isn't really a thing for us.
Like we've grown up like mixed with each other.
Nobody's really tribalistic at this time in like in 2024, you,
you, you're thinking about tribes like, what are you?
Doing, you know what I mean? Yeah.
And, and sorry on that point. I also feel like, and one of the
reasons for that is I feel like we're growing up.
You know, there's this whole thing of of you young kids do
not speak your mother tongues, you young kids.
I think it's that whole thing of culture.
Culture means something to us, but doesn't mean the same thing
that it has meant that it means. It doesn't mean this.
It doesn't mean the same thing it does to us that it means to
you, and it doesn't mean what it means in the same way.
Culture. Culture is important because
people are important. They're still keeping their
names. People will try.
And yeah. I was about to say that like it
is important for people to know their mother.
But it's not, we are not using it as a tool to yes, you know,
Yeah, I know. Continue.
So so basically the point I was trying to make is tribalism
isn't really a thing anymore. And then there is things like
religion as well. Like you can't really divide us
by religion anymore. Like bro, Christians, Muslims.
We went to the same, yeah. You know, we're going through
the same things, but like, what? What, what it is is like now.
Wow. OK.
You realize that this generation, how do we divide
them? How do we make them feel like
this other group? I need to like separate.
The tools we used to divide ourselves are not working.
What what? What do we go to now?
What's next? Exactly.
And that's how you win in politics, man.
You have to find a way to divide.
And for them now they're trying to like build this whole
classism thing and make it a thing and try and divide us that
way. They're also even trying to use
and weaponize the whole Gen. Z narrative to kind of make it
seem like millennials aren't doing anything and have that as
a divisive thing as well. Yeah, Like it's so interesting
how they're really, really trying to find angles in which
they can. Which they can, which is.
It's interesting. It's.
And it's it's interesting actually to just observe and see
how evil people can. Be it's like, and you can tell
guys as as much as they're trying to be braggadocious about
it and, and, and speaking in matter of fact tones, they can
tell guys are scrambling. You can tell people they're
making phone calls on the back end and like your farm, what do
we use? Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
iPhones. Yeah.
Talk about those iPhones. Talk about those iPhones just
like fun bro iPhone, whether you have a Mulika Mizzy, we're all
on the streets yelling we're tired of you guys.
So it doesn't matter what you tell us where it's you we're
tired of, we are not tired of, of systems or freaking classes
or whatever it is. It's your.
Divide and rule, policy or divide and conquer in politics
and sociology is gaining and maintaining power divisively.
This includes the exploitation of existing divisions within a
political group by its political opponents, and also the
deliberate creation or strengthening of such divisions.
That's how they win. That's always how they win in
America. They'll focus on things like
abortion and religion, race, They'll focus on things like
that. And then you see, The thing is
amidst everybody arguing whether or not it's right for abortion
to be a thing in the 1st place, right amidst everybody, just
like arguing. This is why I think I'm pro-life
or This is why I think, and This is why I'm, I'm pro-choice.
Like you forget that they're busy creating policy, creating
things that are so detrimental to the society.
You're arguing about the fringe topics.
Yeah, And they've used these as just like the main focal points
in which they can just like create their divisiveness and
then kind of attack. And then now they'll have like
some some really despicable things that they do there.
But like nobody's focusing on these things because like, let's
just let them argue about this. So.
So that's what they kind of do. And that's what this guy Kimani
is trying to do right now by making us try and argue amongst
ourselves about like, oh, wait, like, is it just the rich kids
like out there? Like, no, we're not, We're we're
not doing that. We're keeping.
And that's the beautiful thing about about this protest.
Like people are focused, man, completely focused on the end
goal. And even I've realized the whole
tactic with this abductions, this random abductions.
And, and I'm really glad to hear that Billy has been freed as
well as Jabrudo as well. Like what they're trying to do
as well, or Jabrado, Sorry, what they're trying to do, man, is
they're also trying to like reduce the bro, these guys have
really been trying to divide us, man.
Like they're trying to reduce the effectiveness of the reject
Finance Bill 2024 hashtag by by creating so many other divisive
issues within. So like, you see now The thing
is once these abductions happen, like everybody's attention moves
to that and then the hashtag moves to like a different
hashtag. Or even there was a point where
there was this weird thing of gain trains on Twitter.
Like people were like, Oh yeah, let's gain followers and stuff
like that so that people can see.
Like and destroy me from so much.
Bro, I'm telling you they're doing everything in their power
to. Just stop.
The actual conversation and then and then even.
Not to mention like, like implanting false hashtags.
Yeah, like and then. Also bro these guys are.
Crazy. And then even in the in the in
the protests themselves, they'll implant moles there who would do
everything that they can to incite violence so that they
have like a reason. To be violent.
Violent. Yeah.
Like it's actually so evil. Like the things that they do,
man, just to like. But those are not tactics.
Those are those. Those don't look like tactics of
of of the winning side, does it? It doesn't.
It's it's. But no.
But people have won using those tactics.
They have, they have. Yeah, yeah.
So that's why they're using it. And and the reason they've been
switching tactics over there, They're doing everything and
anything because they've tried one thing.
Wait, not they didn't buy it. Oh, let's try something else.
Oh, snap. They've not bought it.
What can we do? Oh, let's insult them.
Oh, those guys are all kill cool kids.
First off, just look into the crowd.
We're not all cool kids. There's kids from everywhere.
There's they're scrambling and. So what like.
And So what? That's the question.
So what? Are who come from the middle to
upper class families are also engaging in this protest bro So
what like at least everybody's engaged the.
Like the finances? Are going to make.
And corruption effects everyone in the country.
Everyone so. Yeah.
So listen, I just want to say, I mean, there's also the, the
directive for for the Seven Days of Rage in which you could go
through as we are recording. And this is this is a this is a
frustration. I have also been a podcaster is
like because we record like in advance and this podcast comes
out on Wednesday, but obviously before this podcast comes out,
there's going to be, I mean like in the in the meantime, you
know, in the period between US recording and us releasing this
podcast, a lot is good a lot. Is going to happen, yeah, so.
So this podcast, like when it comes out, it's not going to
sound like exactly up to date. That frustrates me a little bit.
But so basically right now as we speak, we're on Sunday and I
want to shout out to everybody who went to the churches.
I saw the dude at Holy Family Basilicus chanting reject your
bill. Shout out to all the churches
and then the guy who's who spoke up about them and then and then
and then the churches that kind of kind of danced around the
issues. Don't think we don't see your
like like congratulations. We won't forget hand of
applause, I mean round of applause they.
Will not believe they will not believe they.
Really won't. Yep.
So yeah, Sunday, the platform politicians in church.
Don't allow any politician who voted yes to speak in your
church. Actually, I'm interested to see
on Tuesday if the number so I know there's 204 politicians
voted yes. I'd like to see if that number
goes down. Probably wouldn't, but
interesting. So on Monday there's supposed to
be. So make a courtesy call on MPs
who voted yes at the constituency office.
Tell them and then Leah Hivio, boycott the businesses of those
cheaters and ostracize them for betraying 54,000,000 Kenyans.
Bro I love the way this shit is just being controlled.
Like I don't even know who created this stuff but shout out
to them man. And then Tuesday, now Tuesday is
the big day man #occupy parliament and total shutdown
Kenya. Because on Tuesday there's going
to be a second reading of the bill, at which point the
politicians are going to vote or the MPs are going to vote again.
I expect them to vote yes, but nonetheless I think.
No, don't put that action to the universe.
FM. Come on.
No, it's it's going to happen, man.
Like, bro, these are pigs, man. And and this bill is something
that puts money into their pockets and fits the agenda.
They're going to vote yes, but anyway.
So on Tuesday we can expect a total shutdown.
So Gen. Z are granting all hard work,
hard working canyons, a day off. Parents keep their children.
Yeah, that's crazy, man. That's crazy.
But that's crazy for a group of people.
Just say, you know what, guys? Stay at home.
You're you're cool. Stay at home.
Yeah. Just turn on your TV, watch the
news. We've got this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Enjoy some time with your
family. You guys just chill.
You guys just chill Wednesday. So Tuesday is going to be a
really big day, at which point I'm also really, really praying
for the safety of everybody who's going to be involved.
Let's yes. Please not lose any other people
to these protests. And this is actually more
towards the police like because everyone is being peaceful.
So if the police are also peaceful back, we're not going
to suffer. Unless unless the incentives
from elsewhere to not be peaceful, they should go very
smoothly. That whole thing.
But yeah, anyway, Wednesday 26th June, justice for Rex.
They're going to visit IPOA and IPOA and the IG of police
demanding justice for Rex. Also, we need to find the person
who shot him. We've seen so many pictures of
him, but his name needs to be in circulation and he needs to be
brought to justice. And on Thursday, there's also
going to be a super, super huge day because people are going to
be camping outside State House, so block main roads leading to
Nairobi and #occupy State House to witness Ruto sign our lives
into slavery. Yeah, yeah.
And, and, and on that on, on that last point, I just wanted
to highlight a couple of people. I mean, there are a couple of
people, lawyers on the space, who on the Twitter space and on
and on Twitter, who are very, very open to educating people
about the bills and, and, and, and what exactly it means.
I've also seen a couple of, and this is, this is just a really
cool idea. I've seen a couple of artists.
I saw Kosta or Drang, who's a really brilliant artist on two
fronts, both music and visual arts.
What do you call? Do you call it visual arts when
it's like painting? Is it?
We'll call it. Visual arts, yes, but he's been
he's been trying to educate people on the Finance Bill in
his mother tongue. And I also saw them try to do
that. I mean not try but then doing it
also in sign language which is really important in my.
I saw the sign language when I was going to say that yes, I.
So shout out to everyone who is doing it.
I mean, if you can just make sure that you get get what it's
saying right, so that we are not passing off faulty information
or incomplete information to other people.
But if you can, you know, in whatever.
Hey, if I could speak Yoruba farm.
I've been throwing up. I've been breaking down the
finance bait in some Yoruba. But but yeah, it's good to see
some of these things being done. It's really important.
And yeah, yeah, man, listen, this week is, is is is a very
important week, I think for the country.
And I really do hope it goes down well.
Yeah, hopefully It's just a reminder to stay focused.
Let's stay focused. Let's We have.
We have. A Stay focused because they're
going to try and divide. They're going to try everything,
everything. So let's stay focused.
Let's, let's, let's do what we can to play, to play, to play
the role we're playing in the best way so that we don't look
back and say, oh man, I wish I would have done this better.
I wish I would have done this better.
It's always better to move in in numbers and and know what you're
doing with the people around you because again, they love to
isolate or and generally in war, it's really better when you when
you isolate a couple of people and you pick them off.
So yeah, man, stay safe. There really isn't anything
else. We feel like we we.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's not really
much we. All don't want to know about
universal. Music industry I'm.
Saying people don't want to know what Universal, Universal Music
is doing. At this point, I don't think
it's important. Not really.
Now isn't the time for that. I mean, there was also new music
that came out this week. I mean, briefly we can just say
shout out to the people who released music right now, I
guess. Me personally and a lot of
people like music isn't even bro even the Euros are going on
nothing is really like. Yeah, it's not.
It's not hitting, bro. It's not hitting like it.
Usually does. Really, man, we're all kind of
just. We have more important things,
of course, music is music is is one of the things that just
lightens mood and brings people. So which is which is cool.
So it'd be cool to just highlight some stuff that maybe
you'd want to listen to as you March.
Yeah, I mean, OK, so Mao Mao from Nowhere released Restore.
It also has like very big political themes in their
pertinent to the times. So shout out to to Mao from
Nowhere and Jay James for releasing the song Restore.
Namanga by Bensol came out, Malaika by Bien Antenny.
I fuck with Tenny man. Tenny.
She's very comedic sometimes, so shout out to Tenny.
The bass in that, like I love the choir, the choir vocals that
they did up up there, that was that was fire the choir vox.
Yeah, Bay by DTX and Boutros came out Step Up by Blocker,
Rachel Candy, Jiggy and Lemmy Rizzi by Jovi Jov.
No Rizzi and Jovi Jov released a song called Sharp.
Sorry, I listened to it as like this is interesting.
Like they just named the song Sharp so I'm shout out to them.
Hey, it is Shrap. Yeah, there wasn't really much.
I mean the last thing I saw was in a clap by Trio, Mio, Shannon,
MMG, Godi, Turner, Tipsy G that also came out.
Yeah. Did you listen to anything else?
I mean, it's pretty much there was that, to be honest with you,
there's not much else that was released.
Yeah, I'm not much else that came onto my radar.
So of course we got a couple from a disease.
Sophianzar released Nesson Burrow.
We have that group our our EDM, yeah, Afro EDM group that also
released music, which is cool. So yeah, man, God support your
artists as we try to for sure make some change.
So I guess for the end of the podcast, our focus track of the
week has to go to Triomio. Man, like I said, brah, my mum
literally sends me a song for Triomio.
My mum does not listen to Triomio.
But like that, that was just so interesting to me.
My. Mum occupied the streets by Tio
Triomio. I love it.
I I love artists using their platform responsible,
responsibly in this way. And you know, I love the message
and it's coming from a Gen. Z themselves.
So yeah, man, Sam, I think to end this podcast, I'd love to
play the song Occupy the Streets by Trio.
50. That was occupied the streets by
trio Mio. Shout out to you.
Shout out to you man. Thank you for using your
platform to highlight what's going on in the country man.
And broke some. And the many others who have
released music release activists.
Sorry, no, just just to highlight also the many others
who have released. I not, I don't call it activist
music, but music that sort of talk about what's going on now
and, and, and social commentary, social commentary, social
commentary. So that's cool, That's cool.
And the ones who aren't? All right, that was episode 80.
82 of. The 30% podcast, man, I'm hoping
that by the time this comes out, which is going to be Wednesday,
I hope yesterday was a success and it was peaceful and you
know, nothing, nothing bad happened.
Yes and and yeah, and I'm I'm, I'm just really again hoping,
I'm hoping that I don't want to be Mr. Positive, but I'm hoping
that some of this politicians hearts changed and and they stop
looking at they stop seeing green and start seeing human
beings because that's really one of the biggest problems that we
are facing as as a country, as people.
So hoping for that. Agreed.
Stay brave. Agreed.
And on that note, yeah, guys, stay brave like Sam said.
And yeah, man, let's catch you guys on episode 83. 83.