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We're having a peaceful 
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One have to pick your to tear 
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One have to pick to Melissa. 
Where do you have to kill us? 

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That will go be reject your 
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your bill. 
What's up everyone? 

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Welcome to the 30% podcast. 
My name is Sam. 

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I am here with Affirm. 
This is episode 8282, right? 

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82 Yes, Sir. 
Yep, 82 welcome, welcome, 

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welcome. 
You can catch this. 

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This is at the 30% pod on 
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going on X on what else? 
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So that's Instagram threads and 
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if you want to link with us Yeah
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TikTok. 
Sorry, TikTok, TikTok, TikTok. 

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I'm not on TikTok a lot, so I 
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It's not like a major, a major 
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But yeah, that's the 30% 
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We talk about the music 
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We talk about everything around 
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We won't be talking necessarily 
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music industry, but about the 
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A lot, a lot has been happening.
Reject your bill. 

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Reject your. 
That's a shout to Sabi. 

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Woo man. 
He, I mean he was really quick 

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with it bro, like. 
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It's a smart move. 
It's a smart move for an artist.

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I'm saying it's a smart move for
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song is raining number one in 
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So it is, yeah. 
To use it for social change is 

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fire. 
Timing Yep, timing wise he he he

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killed it, but like also like 
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interesting is like his bars are
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So he he mixes in this song 
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bit of humor, but like it works.
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And it's important like his his 
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a lot of people are highlighting
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I think, I think we're becoming 
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speak about some of these 
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Kenya is a very there's a lot of
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It's a cool jokey culture, but a
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serious and and and when still 
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Twitter has been a light. 
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I think it's really cool to see,
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out, but we'll get to that. 
AFAM, what's going on, man? 

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How are you doing? 
How are you doing despite the 

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circumstances? 
I mean, how's your mental 

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health? 
As well as well as I can be in 

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these trying times man. 
Definitely it's it sucks to be 

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so far away from home when 
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Yeah. 
You know. 

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How does that feel though? 
Like do you feel powerless? 

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I mean like running through your
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Process yeah, you feel you feel 
powerless, but like also I'm. 

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I'm really like, you know, 
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activism that's happening at 
this current moment like and you

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know that's what we can do as 
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specific causes. 
So you just have to like, be in 

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solidarity. 
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one of the positives about 
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maybe one of the things that our
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different, is like this battle, 
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fought both on the streets and 
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And so, you know, at least like 
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physically there, like the 
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I'm I'm pretty sure it might 
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was like over 2 million. 
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the power of the Internet is 
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So yeah, I'm doing as well as I 
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Interestingly enough, I've been 
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it's, it's a, it's a time where 
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stuff like that. 
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good outlet and I've been able 
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channel like all that 
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stuff like that and just be 
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creative I've been in a in a 
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And I hope it will pay dividends
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But yeah, other than that, like,
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personally, I found the person 
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I found the person. 
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You know, they're doing as well 
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on that last point you made. 
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birthed through pain. 
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So yeah, well, that's good, man.
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Sam, how are you doing? 
How was your week? 

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started. 
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chill. 
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unlocked a weird, it's like a 
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because there's something I've 
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haven't done it yet. 
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process, it kind of just 
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fresh air just, you know, a 
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OK, no, no, I don't know. 
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there are my tattoos in Texas, 
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enters. 
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a little bit dicey, like with 
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that call it an uprising. 
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It's unrest, not distressed 
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those there were protests in 
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There's a lot going on. 
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guess. 
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Friday, Saturday. 
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was Thursday. 
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was the protest was Thursday. 
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I think it was Saturday. 
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where I think, I don't know, I, 
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I'm just being, this is just 
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I'm a psychologist, so I don't 
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emotional stuff. 
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think it just ended up getting 
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happening and how sort of things
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what was happening on the ground
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me. 
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triggered some some anxiety and 
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naturally I feel like I am an 
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like outward activism. 
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questions I ask myself over and 
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Why are we being treated like 
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Why are politicians doing this? 
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And so when you see these things
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the repercussions from them. 
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about them. 
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missing and, and some losing 
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it difficult to eat. 
I went to bed starving because I

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just like farm. 
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right now. 
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important. 
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important at this moment. 
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lifted and it's still there. 
It's still a weird tension, I 

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guess in me of just trying, just
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It's a hope, you know, it's a 
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I realized that it's really 
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man. 
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during this time and that 
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Like it's really important to be
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some sort of support and go 
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that you're not alone. 
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an echo chamber, it could drive 
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But that's that man, Hey. 
Well, you should know you're not

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We're all in this together, man.

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come out of this port, this 
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the beautiful things that have 
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a lot of us have banded together
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possible. 
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feel like there was, there was a
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Z's. 
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single youth in the country is 
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2027. 
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I feel like 2027 is too far 

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I would love if this kind of 

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government was out tomorrow. 
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possible or feasible. 
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It would be so amazing. 
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great things that have has come 
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And I just wanted to say that to
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are going through these feelings
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uncertainty and hoping that the 
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But you're not facing those 
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know? 
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I just just just to to round 
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I think with with the anxiety, 
I'm not having anxiety and 

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cowering away. 
It's, it's almost like a 

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positive anxiety where it's 
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happening, but I'm glad that 
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You know, like I'm happy that, 
that we're going through some of

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these things because it's a road
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And so it's, it's a positive, 
it's a hopeful anxiety rather 

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than I'm just reframing it in my
mind rather than sitting around 

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cowering. 
And we should not, I know a lot 

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of people might be dealing with 
it and we'll maybe not talk 

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about it. 
It's important to talk about 

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these things, right? 
But talk about try and reframe 

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the anxiety in your mind from 
being, oh, I'm scared that these

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things are going to happen to 
being, yeah, this stuff that's 

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happening is kind of crazy. 
It's, it's a wild world out 

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there. 
It's treacherous times. 

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And so we don't attack, we 
don't, we don't manoeuvre that 

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anxiety with fear, but with 
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I think I spoke about that 
towards the end of our last, our

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last podcast as we go through 
anxiety with fear, I mean, with 

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faith, not fear. 
So yeah, man. 

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Yeah. 
So I wanted to lead this 

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conversation with, you know, 
obviously we are a music 

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wanted to just highlight the 
artists that have been using 

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their platforms responsibly for,
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and uprising against our our 
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And one of them is charisma. 
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Yeah. 
Heat. 

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That's the voice you heard in 
the beginning of the podcast? 

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of the band, but now he is solo.
Less solo. 

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And yeah, and, and bro, he's, 
he's done so much like 

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documenting of his experience 
out there fighting for our, our 

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rights with every like as every 
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And I've seen a lot of 
outpouring of positivity towards

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him of people saying, yo, y'all 
should stream his music and 

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stuff like that because this guy
is, is actually like out there 

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like. 
Fighting and. 

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That's that's people, people 
that's positive and I don't 

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know, good. 
No, people want people. 

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People want to make you more 
successful and they want to like

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pay for your music and stuff 
wants to see that you want once 

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you relate and it's it's it's 
the music business once and 

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that's why people do a lot of 
marketing is once you are not 

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indeed, then this is not at all 
that conversation right, but. 

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It's not marketing. 
Yeah, no, he's not doing this 

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with the. 
Marketing, but once when you 

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make yourself more relatable to 
people, they want to support you

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and this is how it is. 
And so him being out on the 

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streets and taking tear gas to 
the eyes is definitely like, all

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right. 
So it humanizes, you know, 

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someone who you would have 
previously thought is not 

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necessarily on that level. 
Yeah. 

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It does and it's and it's 
important. 

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It's important because people 
look up to charisma. 

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You know, I've, I've seen even 
nameless and well who are there 

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as well. 
I've seen so many, I've seen so 

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many artists like out there like
protesting. 

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And it's important. 
It's important because there's 

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so many people who you influence
and those people look up to you 

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and it's good. 
It's good to see that the people

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who we give these platforms, 
yeah, using the, you know, using

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the Stitch and the, the, the 
platforms that they have to kind

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of push. 
More than just via music, yeah. 

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Are which are definitely 
necessary and are contributing 

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to just like the wider country, 
the the wider Canyon, just 

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everyone, everyone needs to be 
part of this conversation. 

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So the greatest story yeah the 
greatest story. 

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So it's tough to see people like
Charisma out there. 

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And then also using your 
platform via music. 

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I've seen so many people release
songs that are addressing the 

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Finance Bill. 
I mean, in the intro to this 

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podcast, we played Reject Your 
Bill by Sabi Wu. 

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I mean occupied the streets by 
Trio Mio Sam, do you know my mum

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sent randomly on WhatsApp, She 
sends me this and she's like, I 

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thought you'd like this because 
these are the type of beats you 

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make. 
And I was like, oh, interest. 

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And she said I never in my life 
did I think my mum would send 

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you. 
Send your trio Mio joint. 

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Yeah, that's crazy. 
That shit was, it was 

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circulating in the WhatsApp 
groups, man. 

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And it was like. 
But that's powerful. 

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It's powerful. 
I mean, and scene, I mean scene 

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Bien there's I mean there's a 
legendary song that's that's 

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that we used to fight sort of 
what do you call it? 

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Not fight the power. 
But then like political 

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commentary, which is is called 
to Jiangalia, right by by South 

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de Sol and Nashinsky, if I'm not
wrong. 

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I mean, just seeing him like he 
performed that again, like with 

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the guitar and everything. 
And the song has just been 

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circulating. 
Yeah. 

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And there's many more that we've
not mentioned. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, and even our busy. 

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Our busy released a song. 
As well that was, that was. 

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Interesting to me, everybody. 
That was interesting to me. 

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Listen like I want to hear 
reject your bill in in auto tune

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like I'm here. 
Yeah, exactly bro, bro. 

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So many people have used their 
platform and we had a a podcast 

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about activism in music and 
listen, it's so impactful. 

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My mum is sending me a Tiomio 
song as a factor of that. 

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Like it kind, it kind of goes to
show like how important music is

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because it kind of like makes 
the it's it's you can make the 

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theme song of the like whenever.
Soundtracks 2 star tracks 2 

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Revolution period. 
Exactly. 

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The soundtracks to Revolutions 
are very, very important man. 

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And I just wanted to highlight 
like the the artists I've seen 

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like kind of use their platform 
in this way and. 

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Yeah, and we mentioned it. 
We're also just seeing artists 

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out there, seeing artists out 
there with the people, mingling 

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with the people, not necessarily
having 500 people around them 

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talking about them fighting for 
fighting for Kenyans. 

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And you're, you're protected. 
You know, nothing is going to 

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touch you, but you're actually 
there on the ground, which is 

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very cool. 
It level levels all of us. 

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And you're just as important as 
the person who consumes your 

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music. 
You're just as important as the 

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person fighting for their 
rights. 

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It's all our rights we're 
fighting for, you know, it's all

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of us. 
And it's important to remember 

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that now is now. 
That's really not the time to be

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releasing this track. 
But anyway. 

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Leave. 
Leave that one alone right 

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there. 
Just that's enough, we need to 

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say. 
Yeah, that's just that. 

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That's all that needs to be 
said. 

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That's all that needs to be said
about that. 

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So one thing that's weighing 
heavy. 

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But I'll give it to myself. 
Yeah, One thing that's weighing 

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really heavy on my heart right 
now is the loss. 

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You know, the first one, Rex 
Maasai, man, it hit me, man, 

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because he's he's my age. 
And I was like, brah, that could

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have been me. 
That could have been you. 

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That could have been. 
I literally could have been 

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anyone on that street. 
It could have been anyone on any

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St. 
At all. 

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Which raises the question, why 
are they even shooting live 

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rounds out of in a peace 
peaceful protest? 

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It's it's so scary. 
And obviously as well, Evans 

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Kiratu also got hit by a tear 
gas canister and passed away. 

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And if anything, we can't. 
What 20? 

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One legacies, Yeah, he was 
young. 

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We can't, we can't let their, we
can't let their legacies just 

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like go like that, man. 
But also don't forget over 200 

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people have been injured in 
these protests across. 

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We're not hearing, yeah, we're 
not hearing that. 

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We're not hearing that story a 
lot like that's not been been, 

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of course, the people who passed
away publicized. 

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Yeah, it's, it's going to be 
like make the major news. 

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But then we're not hearing of 
the many people who've been 

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injured and who need blood. 
If you're, if you're able to 

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donate blood, if you're able to,
to get to some of those 

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stations, like it's, it's really
important to do that. 

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I think a lot of people do need 
it. 

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And yeah, if you're able to do 
it, like we just again, 

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encourage you to, to go out 
there and do that. 

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But yeah, I mean, you're, we're 
out here and just holding up a 

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placard, trying to hold your 
government accountable, probably

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with your friends in your mind, 
you know, you're making change 

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and the next minute you're not 
around. 

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That has to be one of the 
scariest thing. 

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I mean, you don't leave. 
You're leaving the house not 

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thinking that you're not coming 
back. 

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It's a peaceful protest. 
Why, why, why are we? 

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Why is why is it a thing? 
Why, why, why are people dying 

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in in a nonviolent protest? 
What's that about? 

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I'm going to see now. 
I should have started a short 

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circuit again. 
My brain is I said to get heated

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again. 
No, quite frankly, it shouldn't 

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be the case. 
And I and and I can't believe 

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that well, as of us recording 
this podcast that that policeman

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who shot him hasn't been like 
nothing has happened and there 

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are no repercussions. 
Hopefully by the time this 

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podcast comes out, that will be 
a different story. 

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But you're here. 
How is he just out there roaming

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the streets? 
That's a criminal who has shot 

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an innocent. 
Completely innocent of the 

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country, unarmed. 
He had a bottle of water his and

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his ID on him. 
What? 

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Yeah, that's that's actually 
disgusting. 

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It's. 
Really sad because now what do 

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you tell his? 
What do you tell his his folks? 

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What do you tell his mom? 
I was looking at pictures of her

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I. 
Was so sad I saw pictures of 

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broke my heart. 
That's exactly where I was. 

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Broke my heart. 
I saw pictures of that and all I

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could see was my mum in that 
instant. 

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And I'm like, imagine how my mum
would be like just seeing me 

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like on the like in the 
Mortuary, like in the clothes. 

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She so believed the house in. 
Man, it's, it's, it's painful. 

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Yeah, and, and, and I guess we 
should, I guess we shouldn't 

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dwell on the on the negativity 
of it because what it shows is 

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bravery. 
They were out there and there, 

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you know, and there's so many 
people. 

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So, so even even some of the 
artists, man, it's really brave 

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to know that you're and I was 
just thinking about this 

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recently is artists tend to be 
like the government could look 

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at them and say, OK, like you're
the, you know how there's, 

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there's almost like a hunt for 
who is the one leading the 

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protests and who's sponsoring 
the protests. 

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And it's very easy. 
Yeah, it's very easy to. 

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It's very easy to point towards,
oh, look at the artists because 

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they have influence already and 
to point to them. 

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And then you're targeted just 
because, because you brought, 

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you have that. 
It's like a pre influence 

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already. 
So it's very brave of them to be

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out there fighting for change. 
Not just artists, but people who

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are part of the culture, people 
who are recognisable, not just 

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musicians. 
There's dancers, there's people 

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in museum, instrumentalists, 
there's videographers. 

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There's so many people out there
who are who who want their voice

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to be heard. 
So shout out to them. 

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Yeah, it's dangerous. 
And I love how I love how I love

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how there's no like there's no 
one face to this whole. 

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No, no, no, like it's. 
Very decentralized. 

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They don't know who to come for.
Like they, they just, you know, 

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like it's there's no leader, 
like we're all doing this. 

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And it's so hilarious to me that
they think that people are being

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paid or this is being funded by 
anyone. 

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No, listen, we hate this 
government for free. 

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You had, and I think you had 
mentioned it, you had said it 

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earlier, you said it earlier, 
how, how people, I mean, the, 

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the, the, the, the generation, 
we've been quiet and we don't 

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have political affiliations. 
And so we've been quiet about 

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things. 
But it's that quietness and that

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just frustration that has been 
building and building and 

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building and building that has 
led to this. 

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It's like, all right, cool. 
Like you guys are clearly just, 

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you guys are clearly, because 
this is not the first year 

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there's been a Finance Bill, by 
the way, there's finance bills 

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every year. 
But this time, yeah, this time 

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we're just looking at it like, 
OK fam, you guys literally don't

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care, so. 
It was the last stroke. 

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If you guys want to help Rex's 
family man, I know people were 

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circulating his mum's number 
which you can send anything that

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you can it it would go a long 
way. 

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For sure. 
That number is 0722238122. 

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Send whatever you can. 
You know, we just need to do the

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little that we can to kind of 
like help because that could 

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have been anyone. 
I haven't seen too much 

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information of how we can 
directly help Ivan Skiratu and 

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his family. 
I'm sure that will come up. 

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So just keep your keep your eyes
open for that. 

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Keep your eyes open for for that
online, especially on XA lot of 

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this has been done on on Twitter
slash X and yeah, and shout out 

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again, just a big shout out to 
the brave people who are sort of

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not necessarily leading on that 
front, but just being an 

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amplifier and organizing one 
thing that that that. 

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Speaking of. 
Yeah. 

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Go ahead, Sir. 
No, just about the one thing 

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that was really, really, really 
good to see was this. 

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The the Spaces that was the 
Twitter Spaces that was held was

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yesterday, not sorry, not just 
on Saturday. 

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On Saturday, I'm giving myself 
was the spaces that was held on 

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Saturday and just seen droves 
and droves of people I don't 

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know, I mean. 
At the time At the time Billy 

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was still his whereabouts were. 
Unknown. 

450
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,880
And so a lot of it was driven by
that as well. 

451
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,120
Yeah, driven by that. 
And then and then just it, it's 

452
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,840
just turned into people coming 
out and airing their 

453
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,240
frustrations and. 
There was No Fear. 

454
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,040
Oh, man, at some point, I, I, I 
mean, I, I wasn't going to leave

455
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,720
this like I was, I was actually 
on the spaces from, I think I 

456
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:57,240
might have joined mid morning, I
want to say maybe 11:00 or 12:00

457
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,360
PM And I stayed on it until 
12:00 AM when, when it, when it 

458
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,040
was closing down, of course, on 
and off because there's a bunch 

459
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,280
of stuff I was doing. 
But then I was paying attention 

460
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,600
and then not, and then paying 
attention not. 

461
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,960
But people were on there just 
telling the truth and I was. 

462
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,920
That was really good to see. 
Yeah, politicians, some, some 

463
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,320
some MPs were jumping in there 
and they were being flamed, bro.

464
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,760
Like. 
Because they're in there for all

465
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:32,280
of all of what, 12 seconds? 
They will not believe, they will

466
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,200
not believe and they really hate
all these people. 

467
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,800
Yeah, yeah. 
We're, we're, we're it's, it's 

468
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,480
unified. 
We, we don't have a specific 

469
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000
target target. 
It's like not, it's where our 

470
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000
target is corruption. 
That's that's who we're going 

471
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,520
against. 
So the shoe fits. 

472
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,320
And it's. 
Put it on, you know. 

473
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,920
It's, it's, it's so. 
It's so good to see how many 

474
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,160
people in the international 
community are also picking up 

475
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,880
this story. 
The biggest shock to be was 

476
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,480
seeing an anonymous video that 
was and I was like, is this the 

477
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,960
real anonymous? 
And I was like. 

478
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,840
I went to check. 
I went to check like I went. 

479
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,480
To also vary. 
I saw the mask. 

480
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,000
I was like, no, wait, it can't 
be. 

481
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,640
And then I went check. 
I was like, hey, yo, this is 

482
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,680
fire. 
This is This is. 

483
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Fire. 
And they're just like, 

484
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,640
greetings, citizens of the 
world. 

485
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,280
This is a warning message to 
William Ruto. 

486
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,800
I was like, bro, this smoke. 
I wonder who recorded that? 

487
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:25,760
I wonder what? 
I wonder what mic they used to 

488
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,720
record that joint. 
The part I love. 

489
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Was like. 
They said soon there will be an 

490
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,240
uprising of hackers, many of 
whom may reside in your home 

491
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,960
country. 
Your secrets may no longer be 

492
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
safe. 
And there is a chance that all 

493
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,840
these secrets will be exposed to
show how corrupt and unjust 

494
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,960
members of this parliament are 
embezzling public funds for 

495
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,000
personal gain. 
And I'm like, bro, I'm sure this

496
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,400
got to rooters table and I'm I'm
sure he's been like, he'd be 

497
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:03,400
wondering like what the fuck? 
Because like bro, I just, I must

498
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,320
think. 
People to do some. 

499
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,920
Research I could hack bro would 
be hacking away. 

500
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Sam, you don't understand. 
That. 

501
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,960
You're hacking away right now. 
This is diving into numbers. 

502
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Any and every computer you can 
find. 

503
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,880
Yeah, e-mail. 
Things. 

504
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
For real man, like oh bro, but I

505
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,240
love I love the the audacity of 
the youth in in Kenya right now,

506
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,440
bro, we are so auditions as like
having all these numbers D Ming 

507
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,840
them messaging them on WhatsApp,
a lot of politicians. 

508
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Posting, posting the 
screenshots, you know, some of 

509
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,680
the screenshots are hilarious. 
And, and, and it's on the other 

510
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,280
side of that, some, some of the,
some of our politicians, 

511
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,080
honestly, these are people we've
put into power. 

512
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,800
Some of these guys are rude. 
Just ridiculously rude. 

513
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Like just just brazen about 
their rudeness and. 

514
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560
OK, lack of So Speaking of of. 
Intelligence. 

515
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaking of rude politicians, I 
guess I'm speaking you can talk 

516
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,760
about. 
I'm scared. 

517
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,840
I don't know where this is 
going. 

518
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,520
I don't know where this is 
going. 

519
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,880
Why Speaking of no when you 
start with Speaking of rude 

520
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,520
politicians, I'm like, yo, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa. 

521
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Yeah, but these are rude. 
So. 

522
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,560
So one thing, one thing that's 
been weighing heavily on my mind

523
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,720
is politics. 
And Kimani Ishungua, who is 

524
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:33,960
currently the leader of the 
majority in parliament, was kind

525
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:42,080
of clipped talking about the 
fact that the people going out 

526
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,360
for the protest, Gen. 
Z12, will after the protest, go 

527
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,040
and have KFC. 
Three, they will have filmed the

528
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720
protest on their iPhones. 
And four, they would have 

529
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,120
arrived at the protest and 
consequently left using Ubers. 

530
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Ubers. 
So where's the problem? 

531
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,240
I find this very interesting. 
I find this very interesting 

532
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,280
actually, because it just kind 
of goes to show what politics is

533
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,240
all about. 
And listen, I'm not a person who

534
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,080
is, who has prior to like this, 
been very interested about the 

535
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,360
like psychology of politics, but
it's very interesting. 

536
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,840
I feel like politics is all 
about divisiveness and dividing 

537
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,640
people. 
Definite one of the major. 

538
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,880
Factors there was a it is and I 
feel like there was some 

539
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,520
conversation around this on 
Twitter and one thing that's 

540
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,680
really beautiful about this 
current generation that's 

541
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,120
protesting is tribe tribalism 
isn't really a thing for us. 

542
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Like we've grown up like mixed 
with each other. 

543
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,880
Nobody's really tribalistic at 
this time in like in 2024, you, 

544
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,320
you, you're thinking about 
tribes like, what are you? 

545
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,320
Doing, you know what I mean? 
Yeah. 

546
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,920
And, and sorry on that point. 
I also feel like, and one of the

547
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,760
reasons for that is I feel like 
we're growing up. 

548
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280
You know, there's this whole 
thing of of you young kids do 

549
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,920
not speak your mother tongues, 
you young kids. 

550
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,640
I think it's that whole thing of
culture. 

551
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Culture means something to us, 
but doesn't mean the same thing 

552
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,920
that it has meant that it means.
It doesn't mean this. 

553
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,360
It doesn't mean the same thing 
it does to us that it means to 

554
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,560
you, and it doesn't mean what it
means in the same way. 

555
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Culture. 
Culture is important because 

556
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,920
people are important. 
They're still keeping their 

557
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,360
names. 
People will try. 

558
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,160
And yeah. 
I was about to say that like it 

559
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,680
is important for people to know 
their mother. 

560
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,160
But it's not, we are not using 
it as a tool to yes, you know, 

561
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Yeah, I know. 
Continue. 

562
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,800
So so basically the point I was 
trying to make is tribalism 

563
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,720
isn't really a thing anymore. 
And then there is things like 

564
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,320
religion as well. 
Like you can't really divide us 

565
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:54,320
by religion anymore. 
Like bro, Christians, Muslims. 

566
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,320
We went to the same, yeah. 
You know, we're going through 

567
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,440
the same things, but like, what?
What, what it is is like now. 

568
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Wow. 
OK. 

569
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,560
You realize that this 
generation, how do we divide 

570
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480
them? 
How do we make them feel like 

571
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080
this other group? 
I need to like separate. 

572
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,440
The tools we used to divide 
ourselves are not working. 

573
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,840
What what? 
What do we go to now? 

574
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,680
What's next? 
Exactly. 

575
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,960
And that's how you win in 
politics, man. 

576
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,200
You have to find a way to 
divide. 

577
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,360
And for them now they're trying 
to like build this whole 

578
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,760
classism thing and make it a 
thing and try and divide us that

579
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,720
way. 
They're also even trying to use 

580
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,320
and weaponize the whole Gen. 
Z narrative to kind of make it 

581
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,520
seem like millennials aren't 
doing anything and have that as 

582
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,720
a divisive thing as well. 
Yeah, Like it's so interesting 

583
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,440
how they're really, really 
trying to find angles in which 

584
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720
they can. 
Which they can, which is. 

585
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,720
It's interesting. 
It's. 

586
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,920
And it's it's interesting 
actually to just observe and see

587
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,960
how evil people can. 
Be it's like, and you can tell 

588
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440
guys as as much as they're 
trying to be braggadocious about

589
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,040
it and, and, and speaking in 
matter of fact tones, they can 

590
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,159
tell guys are scrambling. 
You can tell people they're 

591
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,960
making phone calls on the back 
end and like your farm, what do 

592
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,440
we use? 
Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, 

593
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:15,239
iPhones. 
Yeah. 

594
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Talk about those iPhones. 
Talk about those iPhones just 

595
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,199
like fun bro iPhone, whether you
have a Mulika Mizzy, we're all 

596
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,280
on the streets yelling we're 
tired of you guys. 

597
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,360
So it doesn't matter what you 
tell us where it's you we're 

598
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,080
tired of, we are not tired of, 
of systems or freaking classes 

599
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,600
or whatever it is. 
It's your. 

600
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,280
Divide and rule, policy or 
divide and conquer in politics 

601
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,280
and sociology is gaining and 
maintaining power divisively. 

602
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,320
This includes the exploitation 
of existing divisions within a 

603
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,719
political group by its political
opponents, and also the 

604
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,400
deliberate creation or 
strengthening of such divisions.

605
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,520
That's how they win. 
That's always how they win in 

606
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,560
America. 
They'll focus on things like 

607
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,960
abortion and religion, race, 
They'll focus on things like 

608
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,880
that. 
And then you see, The thing is 

609
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,520
amidst everybody arguing whether
or not it's right for abortion 

610
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,480
to be a thing in the 1st place, 
right amidst everybody, just 

611
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,920
like arguing. 
This is why I think I'm pro-life

612
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,920
or This is why I think, and This
is why I'm, I'm pro-choice. 

613
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:35,120
Like you forget that they're 
busy creating policy, creating 

614
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,520
things that are so detrimental 
to the society. 

615
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,240
You're arguing about the fringe 
topics. 

616
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,080
Yeah, And they've used these as 
just like the main focal points 

617
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,960
in which they can just like 
create their divisiveness and 

618
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,360
then kind of attack. 
And then now they'll have like 

619
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,560
some some really despicable 
things that they do there. 

620
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,160
But like nobody's focusing on 
these things because like, let's

621
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,880
just let them argue about this. 
So. 

622
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,320
So that's what they kind of do. 
And that's what this guy Kimani 

623
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,280
is trying to do right now by 
making us try and argue amongst 

624
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,240
ourselves about like, oh, wait, 
like, is it just the rich kids 

625
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,120
like out there? 
Like, no, we're not, We're we're

626
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,320
not doing that. 
We're keeping. 

627
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,080
And that's the beautiful thing 
about about this protest. 

628
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,120
Like people are focused, man, 
completely focused on the end 

629
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,560
goal. 
And even I've realized the whole

630
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,880
tactic with this abductions, 
this random abductions. 

631
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,200
And, and I'm really glad to hear
that Billy has been freed as 

632
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,480
well as Jabrudo as well. 
Like what they're trying to do 

633
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,400
as well, or Jabrado, Sorry, what
they're trying to do, man, is 

634
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,440
they're also trying to like 
reduce the bro, these guys have 

635
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,840
really been trying to divide us,
man. 

636
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,280
Like they're trying to reduce 
the effectiveness of the reject 

637
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:01,720
Finance Bill 2024 hashtag by by 
creating so many other divisive 

638
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,920
issues within. 
So like, you see now The thing 

639
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:10,320
is once these abductions happen,
like everybody's attention moves

640
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,280
to that and then the hashtag 
moves to like a different 

641
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,200
hashtag. 
Or even there was a point where 

642
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,200
there was this weird thing of 
gain trains on Twitter. 

643
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Like people were like, Oh yeah, 
let's gain followers and stuff 

644
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,800
like that so that people can 
see. 

645
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Like and destroy me from so 
much. 

646
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Bro, I'm telling you they're 
doing everything in their power 

647
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,480
to. 
Just stop. 

648
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,800
The actual conversation and then
and then even. 

649
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,360
Not to mention like, like 
implanting false hashtags. 

650
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,560
Yeah, like and then. 
Also bro these guys are. 

651
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,880
Crazy. 
And then even in the in the in 

652
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,520
the protests themselves, they'll
implant moles there who would do

653
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,840
everything that they can to 
incite violence so that they 

654
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,040
have like a reason. 
To be violent. 

655
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Violent. 
Yeah. 

656
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,760
Like it's actually so evil. 
Like the things that they do, 

657
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,120
man, just to like. 
But those are not tactics. 

658
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Those are those. 
Those don't look like tactics of

659
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,040
of of the winning side, does it?
It doesn't. 

660
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,320
It's it's. 
But no. 

661
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,480
But people have won using those 
tactics. 

662
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,480
They have, they have. 
Yeah, yeah. 

663
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,120
So that's why they're using it. 
And and the reason they've been 

664
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,240
switching tactics over there, 
They're doing everything and 

665
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:21,600
anything because they've tried 
one thing. 

666
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,280
Wait, not they didn't buy it. 
Oh, let's try something else. 

667
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,680
Oh, snap. 
They've not bought it. 

668
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,280
What can we do? 
Oh, let's insult them. 

669
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,840
Oh, those guys are all kill cool
kids. 

670
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,200
First off, just look into the 
crowd. 

671
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,640
We're not all cool kids. 
There's kids from everywhere. 

672
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,800
There's they're scrambling and. 
So what like. 

673
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:38,560
And So what? 
That's the question. 

674
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,320
So what? 
Are who come from the middle to 

675
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,120
upper class families are also 
engaging in this protest bro So 

676
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,640
what like at least everybody's 
engaged the. 

677
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Like the finances? 
Are going to make. 

678
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,160
And corruption effects everyone 
in the country. 

679
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Everyone so. 
Yeah. 

680
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,920
So listen, I just want to say, I
mean, there's also the, the 

681
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,400
directive for for the Seven Days
of Rage in which you could go 

682
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,800
through as we are recording. 
And this is this is a this is a 

683
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,760
frustration. 
I have also been a podcaster is 

684
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,960
like because we record like in 
advance and this podcast comes 

685
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,960
out on Wednesday, but obviously 
before this podcast comes out, 

686
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,360
there's going to be, I mean like
in the in the meantime, you 

687
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,600
know, in the period between US 
recording and us releasing this 

688
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,960
podcast, a lot is good a lot. 
Is going to happen, yeah, so. 

689
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,440
So this podcast, like when it 
comes out, it's not going to 

690
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,760
sound like exactly up to date. 
That frustrates me a little bit.

691
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,680
But so basically right now as we
speak, we're on Sunday and I 

692
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,480
want to shout out to everybody 
who went to the churches. 

693
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,680
I saw the dude at Holy Family 
Basilicus chanting reject your 

694
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,840
bill. 
Shout out to all the churches 

695
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,240
and then the guy who's who spoke
up about them and then and then 

696
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,320
and then the churches that kind 
of kind of danced around the 

697
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,920
issues. 
Don't think we don't see your 

698
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,440
like like congratulations. 
We won't forget hand of 

699
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,840
applause, I mean round of 
applause they. 

700
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,000
Will not believe they will not 
believe they. 

701
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,480
Really won't. 
Yep. 

702
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,680
So yeah, Sunday, the platform 
politicians in church. 

703
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,800
Don't allow any politician who 
voted yes to speak in your 

704
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,800
church. 
Actually, I'm interested to see 

705
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,360
on Tuesday if the number so I 
know there's 204 politicians 

706
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,320
voted yes. 
I'd like to see if that number 

707
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,040
goes down. 
Probably wouldn't, but 

708
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,560
interesting. 
So on Monday there's supposed to

709
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,240
be. 
So make a courtesy call on MPs 

710
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:41,120
who voted yes at the 
constituency office. 

711
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,440
Tell them and then Leah Hivio, 
boycott the businesses of those 

712
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,440
cheaters and ostracize them for 
betraying 54,000,000 Kenyans. 

713
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,360
Bro I love the way this shit is 
just being controlled. 

714
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,440
Like I don't even know who 
created this stuff but shout out

715
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,880
to them man. 
And then Tuesday, now Tuesday is

716
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,600
the big day man #occupy 
parliament and total shutdown 

717
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,160
Kenya. 
Because on Tuesday there's going

718
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,440
to be a second reading of the 
bill, at which point the 

719
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,640
politicians are going to vote or
the MPs are going to vote again.

720
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,560
I expect them to vote yes, but 
nonetheless I think. 

721
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,160
No, don't put that action to the
universe. 

722
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:25,800
FM. 
Come on. 

723
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,160
No, it's it's going to happen, 
man. 

724
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,400
Like, bro, these are pigs, man. 
And and this bill is something 

725
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,520
that puts money into their 
pockets and fits the agenda. 

726
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,360
They're going to vote yes, but 
anyway. 

727
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,200
So on Tuesday we can expect a 
total shutdown. 

728
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:52,080
So Gen. 
Z are granting all hard work, 

729
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,720
hard working canyons, a day off.
Parents keep their children. 

730
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:57,760
Yeah, that's crazy, man. 
That's crazy. 

731
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,840
But that's crazy for a group of 
people. 

732
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Just say, you know what, guys? 
Stay at home. 

733
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,720
You're you're cool. 
Stay at home. 

734
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,240
Yeah. 
Just turn on your TV, watch the 

735
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,040
news. 
We've got this. 

736
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Enjoy some time with your 

737
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,320
family. 
You guys just chill. 

738
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,880
You guys just chill Wednesday. 
So Tuesday is going to be a 

739
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,120
really big day, at which point 
I'm also really, really praying 

740
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,160
for the safety of everybody 
who's going to be involved. 

741
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,280
Let's yes. 
Please not lose any other people

742
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,240
to these protests. 
And this is actually more 

743
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,120
towards the police like because 
everyone is being peaceful. 

744
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,160
So if the police are also 
peaceful back, we're not going 

745
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,600
to suffer. 
Unless unless the incentives 

746
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,680
from elsewhere to not be 
peaceful, they should go very 

747
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,200
smoothly. 
That whole thing. 

748
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:53,280
But yeah, anyway, Wednesday 26th
June, justice for Rex. 

749
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,840
They're going to visit IPOA and 
IPOA and the IG of police 

750
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,360
demanding justice for Rex. 
Also, we need to find the person

751
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,760
who shot him. 
We've seen so many pictures of 

752
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,840
him, but his name needs to be in
circulation and he needs to be 

753
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,080
brought to justice. 
And on Thursday, there's also 

754
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,240
going to be a super, super huge 
day because people are going to 

755
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:23,520
be camping outside State House, 
so block main roads leading to 

756
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Nairobi and #occupy State House 
to witness Ruto sign our lives 

757
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,320
into slavery. 
Yeah, yeah. 

758
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,800
And, and, and on that on, on 
that last point, I just wanted 

759
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960
to highlight a couple of people.
I mean, there are a couple of 

760
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,080
people, lawyers on the space, 
who on the Twitter space and on 

761
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,160
and on Twitter, who are very, 
very open to educating people 

762
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,800
about the bills and, and, and, 
and what exactly it means. 

763
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,120
I've also seen a couple of, and 
this is, this is just a really 

764
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,560
cool idea. 
I've seen a couple of artists. 

765
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,120
I saw Kosta or Drang, who's a 
really brilliant artist on two 

766
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,320
fronts, both music and visual 
arts. 

767
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:07,160
What do you call? 
Do you call it visual arts when 

768
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,520
it's like painting? 
Is it? 

769
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,920
We'll call it. 
Visual arts, yes, but he's been 

770
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,400
he's been trying to educate 
people on the Finance Bill in 

771
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,480
his mother tongue. 
And I also saw them try to do 

772
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,360
that. 
I mean not try but then doing it

773
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,880
also in sign language which is 
really important in my. 

774
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,840
I saw the sign language when I 
was going to say that yes, I. 

775
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,840
So shout out to everyone who is 
doing it. 

776
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,240
I mean, if you can just make 
sure that you get get what it's 

777
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,160
saying right, so that we are not
passing off faulty information 

778
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,120
or incomplete information to 
other people. 

779
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,600
But if you can, you know, in 
whatever. 

780
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,120
Hey, if I could speak Yoruba 
farm. 

781
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:45,280
I've been throwing up. 
I've been breaking down the 

782
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,840
finance bait in some Yoruba. 
But but yeah, it's good to see 

783
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,600
some of these things being done.
It's really important. 

784
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,200
And yeah, yeah, man, listen, 
this week is, is is is a very 

785
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560
important week, I think for the 
country. 

786
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,560
And I really do hope it goes 
down well. 

787
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,600
Yeah, hopefully It's just a 
reminder to stay focused. 

788
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,400
Let's stay focused. 
Let's We have. 

789
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,760
We have. 
A Stay focused because they're 

790
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,480
going to try and divide. 
They're going to try everything,

791
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,880
everything. 
So let's stay focused. 

792
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,800
Let's, let's, let's do what we 
can to play, to play, to play 

793
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120
the role we're playing in the 
best way so that we don't look 

794
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,840
back and say, oh man, I wish I 
would have done this better. 

795
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,800
I wish I would have done this 
better. 

796
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:34,360
It's always better to move in in
numbers and and know what you're

797
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,200
doing with the people around you
because again, they love to 

798
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,480
isolate or and generally in war,
it's really better when you when

799
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,960
you isolate a couple of people 
and you pick them off. 

800
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,240
So yeah, man, stay safe. 
There really isn't anything 

801
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:49,720
else. 
We feel like we we. 

802
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,560
Yeah. 
I mean, yeah, there's not really

803
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,240
much we. 
All don't want to know about 

804
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:57,240
universal. 
Music industry I'm. 

805
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,600
Saying people don't want to know
what Universal, Universal Music 

806
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,880
is doing. 
At this point, I don't think 

807
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,000
it's important. 
Not really. 

808
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,960
Now isn't the time for that. 
I mean, there was also new music

809
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,600
that came out this week. 
I mean, briefly we can just say 

810
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,880
shout out to the people who 
released music right now, I 

811
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,320
guess. 
Me personally and a lot of 

812
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,080
people like music isn't even bro
even the Euros are going on 

813
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160
nothing is really like. 
Yeah, it's not. 

814
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,040
It's not hitting, bro. 
It's not hitting like it. 

815
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,360
Usually does. 
Really, man, we're all kind of 

816
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,320
just. 
We have more important things, 

817
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,600
of course, music is music is is 
one of the things that just 

818
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,320
lightens mood and brings people.
So which is which is cool. 

819
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,400
So it'd be cool to just 
highlight some stuff that maybe 

820
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,560
you'd want to listen to as you 
March. 

821
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:51,600
Yeah, I mean, OK, so Mao Mao 
from Nowhere released Restore. 

822
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,040
It also has like very big 
political themes in their 

823
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,360
pertinent to the times. 
So shout out to to Mao from 

824
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,320
Nowhere and Jay James for 
releasing the song Restore. 

825
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Namanga by Bensol came out, 
Malaika by Bien Antenny. 

826
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,000
I fuck with Tenny man. 
Tenny. 

827
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,040
She's very comedic sometimes, so
shout out to Tenny. 

828
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,600
The bass in that, like I love 
the choir, the choir vocals that

829
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,440
they did up up there, that was 
that was fire the choir vox. 

830
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Yeah, Bay by DTX and Boutros 
came out Step Up by Blocker, 

831
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:42,760
Rachel Candy, Jiggy and Lemmy 
Rizzi by Jovi Jov. 

832
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:46,600
No Rizzi and Jovi Jov released a
song called Sharp. 

833
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:52,760
Sorry, I listened to it as like 
this is interesting. 

834
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,000
Like they just named the song 
Sharp so I'm shout out to them. 

835
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,920
Hey, it is Shrap. 
Yeah, there wasn't really much. 

836
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,480
I mean the last thing I saw was 
in a clap by Trio, Mio, Shannon,

837
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,600
MMG, Godi, Turner, Tipsy G that 
also came out. 

838
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,880
Yeah. 
Did you listen to anything else?

839
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,680
I mean, it's pretty much there 
was that, to be honest with you,

840
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,920
there's not much else that was 
released. 

841
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Yeah, I'm not much else that 
came onto my radar. 

842
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,920
So of course we got a couple 
from a disease. 

843
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,520
Sophianzar released Nesson 
Burrow. 

844
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:30,880
We have that group our our EDM, 
yeah, Afro EDM group that also 

845
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,080
released music, which is cool. 
So yeah, man, God support your 

846
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,280
artists as we try to for sure 
make some change. 

847
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:42,800
So I guess for the end of the 
podcast, our focus track of the 

848
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,320
week has to go to Triomio. 
Man, like I said, brah, my mum 

849
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,360
literally sends me a song for 
Triomio. 

850
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,680
My mum does not listen to 
Triomio. 

851
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,240
But like that, that was just so 
interesting to me. 

852
00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:02,200
My. 
Mum occupied the streets by Tio 

853
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,320
Triomio. 
I love it. 

854
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,520
I I love artists using their 
platform responsible, 

855
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,560
responsibly in this way. 
And you know, I love the message

856
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,640
and it's coming from a Gen. 
Z themselves. 

857
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:22,360
So yeah, man, Sam, I think to 
end this podcast, I'd love to 

858
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:28,120
play the song Occupy the Streets
by Trio. 

859
00:50:36,720 --> 00:51:54,840
50. 
That was occupied the streets by

860
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,560
trio Mio. 
Shout out to you. 

861
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Shout out to you man. 
Thank you for using your 

862
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,840
platform to highlight what's 
going on in the country man. 

863
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,560
And broke some. 
And the many others who have 

864
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,000
released music release 
activists. 

865
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,040
Sorry, no, just just to 
highlight also the many others 

866
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,320
who have released. 
I not, I don't call it activist 

867
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,360
music, but music that sort of 
talk about what's going on now 

868
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,960
and, and, and social commentary,
social commentary, social 

869
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,280
commentary. 
So that's cool, That's cool. 

870
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,720
And the ones who aren't? 
All right, that was episode 80. 

871
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:38,080
82 of. 
The 30% podcast, man, I'm hoping

872
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,760
that by the time this comes out,
which is going to be Wednesday, 

873
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:48,440
I hope yesterday was a success 
and it was peaceful and you 

874
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,600
know, nothing, nothing bad 
happened. 

875
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,000
Yes and and yeah, and I'm I'm, 
I'm just really again hoping, 

876
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,240
I'm hoping that I don't want to 
be Mr. Positive, but I'm hoping 

877
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:05,640
that some of this politicians 
hearts changed and and they stop

878
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,560
looking at they stop seeing 
green and start seeing human 

879
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,240
beings because that's really one
of the biggest problems that we 

880
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,760
are facing as as a country, as 
people. 

881
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,720
So hoping for that. 
Agreed. 

882
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:20,000
Stay brave. 
Agreed. 

883
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,400
And on that note, yeah, guys, 
stay brave like Sam said. 

884
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,640
And yeah, man, let's catch you 
guys on episode 83. 83.

