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I am unbeatable. 
Yo, what's up? 

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And welcome to episode 83 of the
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Sam, what's up? 
Have you been? 

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Has your week transpired? 
Week transpiring? 

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Oh, man, I mean again, doing the
best I can with the 

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circumstances, but I've been 
I've been I've been OK. 

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Right now I'm currently I'm 
under the weather. 

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I am under the weather and it's 
not it's not very, very kind 

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weather. 
It is it's a bit cloudy. 

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I over age caught up to me. 
I overexerted myself physically.

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I was running and and and my 
body just. 

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Why are you running? 
Because I'm paranoid I would get

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into the whole thing because 
it's actually, I feel like, I 

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feel like, I feel like, what do 
you call it? 

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I feel like a Sissy when I say 
it. 

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But anyways, I was, I, I live, I
live on on, on. 

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I'm going to give away my 
location, but I live in an 

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elevated area. 
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whatever reason that I was going
to run up the hill and non-stop.

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And I haven't done like very, 
very rigorous exercises in a 

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long time, apart from like a gym
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So my body was letting me know 
that we can't go on that way. 

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We can't continue living. 
It was, it was two days ago. 

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It was a mess, bro. 
That was a mess. 

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So I woke up today and my body 
is just, I'm just so I'm 

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recovering though it's, I guess 
as you grow older, you can't do 

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the things that you used to do, 
like run, like run up hills just

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off the whim. 
And you can't, you have to, you 

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have to prepare for it. 
But apart from that, I'm all 

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right, I mean, we'll get into 
it, but in terms of just like 

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what's been going on, it's been 
again, just continued like just 

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sadness, so sad that I did that.
Maybe this was not exactly the 

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best thing to do, but I, I, 
I've, I've taken a break of XI 

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might get back into it this 
coming week. 

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But then since maybe it was the 
end of last week, I think I just

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decided, you know what, I I will
be staying off this platform 

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because there's so much negative
information. 

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Not negative information, 
there's just so much going on 

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that's affecting. 
And I realise I have a very soft

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heart. 
I'm not ashamed to say it. 

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And I just couldn't stand to see
people get shot and killed on 

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what do you call it on, on my 
phone like that and just 

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continue with my day. 
So yeah, of course that has come

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with these drawbacks, but 
luckily the information is being

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passed still. 
So yeah, I don't know what else 

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to say. 
I'm hopeful, though. 

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I'm hopeful. 
How are you doing? 

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How has your week been? 
How's your health, bro? 

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This this this week. 
This week has been, it's been 

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difficult to even get any work 
done because like all all my 

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attention has been on the 
current protests. 

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Not gonna lie man, it's just 
it's hard to do anything. 

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It's hard to, I know I said I 
was creative last week, but this

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week was just different, man. 
I was just very in invested and 

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just mentally, emotionally just 
drained from this whole 

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situation, man. 
Yeah. 

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So it's just been, it's just 
been difficult to just even just

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do anything, man. 
Like, yeah, so. 

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So yeah. 
My week. 

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Yeah, it does. 
It does. 

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It does take a toll. 
Yeah. 

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But yeah, my my week. 
So I, I mean, I decided to make 

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a TikTok video just, I'd kind of
like just expressing. 

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This was on Wednesday after 
after our well after William 

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Ruto decided to kind of address 
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Well, he adjusted the he adjust 
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evening and on Wednesday. 
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like I was incensed at the 
because he kind of just made-up 

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a bunch of stuff, omitted a 
bunch of a bunch of information.

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So I made a TikTok video and I'm
glad that I did, although 

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obviously I've gotten a lot of 
texts and stuff and concerns 

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because obviously, you know, 
like my language was very 

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abrasive towards him. 
So a lot of people like, like, 

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brah, you know, remember the Moi
regime, remember, like, you 

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know, these guys are dangerous 
people. 

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ETCTC But yo, listen, at the end
of the day, we have to we have 

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to say something man and for 
those of us who can't be there 

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physically man, digital activism
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age. 
And therefore, you know, if if I

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can't be on the ground, at least
like I can help use my platforms

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for for good. 
So anyway, yeah, I did that 

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happened Wednesday and yeah, I, 
I tried so like you, I tried to,

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I didn't get off X, but I tried 
to like just try and do like 

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normal things. 
So I, I tried to start a new 

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series. 
I was actually in in I was very,

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there's this new series on Apple
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matter and I've actually been 
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It's it's very interesting. 
It's like a sci-fi thriller 

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thing. 
So I've I've tried to get 

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invested in that just. 
To get my head your brain away 

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occupied from. 
Yeah, I keep my brain occupied 

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and away from all the things 
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Yeah. 
And then I finally, I made one 

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beat. 
I made just a singular beat. 

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Hey, shout out to that one beat 
for coming out man like. 

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Oh yeah, yeah. 
Shout out to it man, that that 

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one beat was it was very 
difficult to make. 

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But what genre was it? 
Yeah, that's still so I'm, well,

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I don't know if I'll say that 
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like dancy dance vibes, dance 
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So yeah, I also tried listening 
to a bunch of music just because

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I brought the beginning of the 
week. 

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I was doing none of that, man. 
I feel like beginning of the 

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week was just information 
information. 

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It was. 
It was. 

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Being on, being on, being on, on
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Just like you know, every single
there was a. 

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Lot of info coming in. 
A lot, a lot of information and 

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it's yeah. 
So towards the end of my week, 

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like Friday, Saturday, I was 
trying to listen to new music. 

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I'm trying to watch this new 
series. 

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Just trying to like whatever. 
Also The Bear came out. 

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So I tried, I watched like 2 
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Oh yeah. 
I finished the the the season. 

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Wait, that's no, that's not 
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I didn't finish it. 
I slept, I slept throughout the 

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I think it was the last episode 
of the the 2nd to the last 

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episode of the last season, 
season two of the bear. 

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So I've not really gotten into 
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I've not been, I've been 
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I've been I've been watching 
more, more comedy, more comedy 

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related things just to like lift
my spirit because I can't, I 

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can't. 
If it's serious, it's going to 

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I'm going to start thinking and 
overthinking and then I'm going 

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to get into a hole. 
So I've been watching like more 

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fun, funny, light hearted 
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Shout out to Michael Scott for 
keeping me keeping my head above

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the water. 
Yeah, Dang, this past week has 

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been, has been kind of. 
Crazy, it's been crazy crazy 

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like on on on on the TikTok. 
I was saying one person you guys

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will know Edwin Y Nina. 
He's the the famous like TikTok 

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digital artist. 
He commented. 

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He was like turned our producer 
to a freedom fighter. 

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Ruto, you will crumble. 
That was at least that was one 

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funny thing I saw that it's kind
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But anyway, Speaking of rooter 
will crumble. 

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This podcast came out on 
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So obviously we were unable to 
address what happened happening,

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the beginning of the like, you 
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and everything. 
So Tuesday, Sam, you know, was 

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the Occupy Parliament. 
Tuesday, Tuesday Tuesday 1st 

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off. 
Occupy Parliament, Yeah. 

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I'm just going to like applause,
applause. 

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Everyone who who like came out, 
like people came out in, in, in 

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numbers. 
It was a very, very, very 

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legendary. 
Legendary. 

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I don't know legendary is the 
right time, but it was a very, 

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very important day, I think in, 
in, in the history of, of what's

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going on. 
Yeah. 

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So Tuesday was Occupy, the 
Occupy Parliament today. 

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So there are protests. 
People came out. 

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It was, I mean, it was largely 
peaceful, right? 

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Largely peaceful, the protest, 
Like the protest, this was the 

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2nd. 
The second major protest. 

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The first one was the previous 
week Thursday, right? 

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No, no, no there. 
There was a protest on on the 

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previous week Tuesday as well. 
Yes, yes, sorry. 

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Yes. 
So previous Tuesday, Thursday 

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and then this was I guess what 
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one. 
So yeah, it was, it was good. 

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It was good. 
Again, seeing people out there, 

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this there, there was a 
concerted effort and goal as to 

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what what like there was a 
message that they were trying to

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send. 
So they're in town for the for, 

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for, for a while. 
And then of course, it led to 

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people ended, ended up actually 
occupying Parliament, which is 

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really, I'm not going to lie, it
was really interesting, But I 

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was also a little bit, I was a 
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like when people say no, they've
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I was like, oh, snap, how how 
enough did that happen? 

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But you know, I guess it's a 
revolution. 

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So, so guys were they're going 
to get there anyway. 

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But yeah, so that was 
interesting. 

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I don't know what you if you 
picked up, Did you pick up 

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anything? 
Yeah, I picked up that the 

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government is willing to kill 
its own civilians to. 

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Oh man, just you know. 
Protect their agendas, man. 

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If you saw all those bodies that
were strewn outside parliament 

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on the road and everything, I 
mean, they were using a sniper. 

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Like, bro, these are things you 
only see in movies and stuff 

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like that, man. 
People's brains were like on the

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pavement and everything. 
It was insane. 

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Honestly, I've never seen 
something like that happen in in

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in this country. 
Kenyan history. 

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Yeah, man, at. 
Least at least televised. 

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On TV, televised on Tuesday. 
Yeah, televised on TV and and on

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social media just like in front 
of us to see like that that was,

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I mean, come on, man, for sure. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, so my take away was like, 
I'm those people who breached 

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parliament and, you know, at the
forefront, like those people are

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very, very brave Kenyans and 
they deserve so many plaudits, 

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man. 
Yeah, like I, I wholeheartedly 

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respect what they what they did.
Obviously they did succeed in 

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breaching Parliament. 
There was the funny picture of 

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the one guy who was eating the 
the all the guys who are eating 

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the rice. 
I love food, I love, I love 

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Kenyans man. 
Kenyans always find a way to 

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joke. 
No Kenyans. 

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Are hilarious man. 
Because now you just. 

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Spice it next time, like. 
Yeah, but they were like, OK, 

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let's now compare on Thursday 
because you know, Thursday at 

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that time everyone was saying 
it's Occupy status. 

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Let's compare what? 
Like, oh, let's compare the 

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chefs. 
Let's let's see which chef is 

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better, the one for Parliament 
or for State House. 

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And then they obviously got in, 
stole the Mace or took the Mace.

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I should say I was. 
I wasn't very, I wasn't very hip

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to that whole Mace thing. 
I was like, OK, he just, he got 

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a thing like, why is it so 
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Until I went to look at it and I
was like, oh snap, this gets 

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this gets a bold, this gets a 
very bold. 

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And then the other guy who's 
what did you do? 

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He went to go where the, the 
coat of was it the speaker or 

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something? 
And he was saying that I'm the 

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speaker now. 
It's so funny, man, It's I love,

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I love that the fact that people
were able to joke through that. 

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But of course, that was inside 
the, the, the Parliament. 

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They, I mean, Nairobi city was a
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they, the, the governor's office
was the governor's office, 

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psychiatrist's office was on 
fire. 

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They, they, I think that some 
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well, that was the report that 
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also burning. 
They obviously destroyed a lot 

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of stuff inside Parliament and, 
and a couple of, and later on, 

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later on in the day, I think 
there was some looting that 

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happened around town and some 
shops were destroyed, things 

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stolen from supermarkets and 
whatnot. 

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So I guess that aspect of it was
not, it's not the best news 

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because these are businesses 
that thrive on, on, you know, 

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exchanging goods for money. 
But then when goods are just 

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taken, you know, they, they got 
a loss. 

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So that part wasn't well, wasn't
wasn't really like good news to 

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hear. 
But I do understand that usually

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if there's unrest somewhere 
that's in many revolutions, 

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that's what that's the kind of 
thing that happened, that 

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happened. 
Sorry so. 

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Yeah, so the looting and stuff 
was definitely unfortunate, but 

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I think what's even more 
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like being revealed as time goes
along, is the whole thing that 

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happened in Gidurai. 
Because bro, I was so curious as

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to like why they just deployed 
people to like barrage Gidurai 

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like in the evening. 
And people are saying that the 

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speculation is they were in they
were hunting for the mess that 

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was taken from Parliament. 
Either way, first of all, I hear

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that that Mace is, is is a 
replica. 

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It's not the the one that was 
taken is a replica. 

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It's not the actual one. 
Yeah. 

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And I I just feel like they they
had no right to kind of like 

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find the Mace is gone. 
But like, they killed so many 

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people, man. 
Like I was just. 

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Seeing it's really worth all 
those lives. 

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It wasn't even the real one in 
the first place. 

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And I was just seeing so many 
videos of, of people being 

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killed. 
Well, not people being killed, 

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but like I saw videos of the 
police like shooting almost 

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indiscriminately. 
And then I saw certain videos of

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like people being stuffed into 
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Like, I, I saw some weird stuff 
and it's just like, I, I, I 

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don't know what's happening with
this government where they're 

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just like killing people, man, 
over a Finance Bill. 

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So Godurai was very unfortunate.
There was so many different 

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reports coming in the news, like
up till now, like nobody knows 

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for sure how many people died 
that night. 

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And that's very dangerous 
considering the next day our our

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own president in quotes comes 
out to say only six people had 

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died. 
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multiple people had died the 
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even incensed people more. 
So rest in peace to the people 

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who lost their lives on. 
The Yeah Man and all the. 

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Mothers are real freedom 
fighters of the country. 

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Yeah, the mothers, brothers, 
fathers who lost family members.

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I, I what, what They said the 
other, I guess from the other 

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side, they're saying that there 
was a police officer who was 

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killed. 
So like apparently this is. 

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Really. 
That's what they're saying. 

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Yeah, like the the police 
officer was was attacked by the 

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people and then that's kind of 
what triggered the whole 

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giddurai Giddurai thing. 
So. 

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But we don't know. 
I, I didn't hear that report, 

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but either we're just, I, I 
don't know, I don't know, man. 

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And then bro, Wednesday was an 
interesting day because 

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obviously Ruto held the, his 
second address. 

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Well, Tuesday night he had his 
address, which I feel like that 

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was the real Ruto because, you 
know, that's where he called the

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people protesting criminals. 
He wasn't smiling. 

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He kind of even his. 
Gate. 

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Oh no. 
His gate was off. 

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It was that was war. 
He was declaring war on us. 

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He was angry and but Wednesday, 
Wednesday was more of a curated 

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response where, you know, he 
started off by detailing his in 

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quotes, so-called victories and 
things that he's done and things

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that he was looking to do with 
the Finance Bill. 

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Like he was just kind. 
It felt more like a campaign. 

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Obviously the address was 
directed not to ask the Kenyans,

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but I guess to the people who 
he's trying to show that he's, 

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he's, you know, he's doing the 
right things as a president 

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within the international 
community. 

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And then one, that one comment 
he made about there only been 6 

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deaths in this protest like that
incensed a lot of people because

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we know it wasn't true even just
based off of how many people had

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to be identified at the morgues 
and everything. 

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Yeah. 
The thing about Wednesday, 

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though, that stood out was the 
social media. 

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Space. 
Yeah, because I feel like a lot 

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of misinformation and propaganda
kind of like circulated and then

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there was a lot of fear 
mongering as well. 

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And yeah, Wednesday just became 
unfortunately a day where the 

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momentum for Thursday was lost a
little bit. 

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And and I guess it's just, it's 
also because there was a lot of 

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like talk that, yo, if you guys 
go to State House on Thursday 

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for the occupied State House, 
there'll be more deaths and of 

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course people don't want to die.
So as a result, the 

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communication on Thursday was 
kind of confused because people 

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were like, are we still going to
State House or are we just going

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to into CBD or are we doing this
or are we doing that? 

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And within that lack of like a 
like. 

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A. 
What do you call it? 

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A central yes, yes, central 
like. 

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Deploying of information and I 
guess that's, that's, that's one

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of the things that is, I don't 
call it a drawback. 

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I, I don't want to put any 
negative connotation on it. 

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But then that's one of the 
things I guess that's 

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challenging about how this 
current demonstrations are being

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held because it's been done by 
the people and we are literally 

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just going out. 
And, and, but then there also we

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also stand there's, there's a 
risk of, of groups doing what 

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feels right within the immediate
group you're in rather than 

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binding together. 
So I guess that that's that's, 

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that's one thing that we might 
need to and I understand why, 

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because again, people, people 
have there's there's a thought 

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of if we have like a specific 
leader or a bunch of leaders. 

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Sorry, I'm just, I'm just 
remembering those, those four 

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were there four or five who came
out and started saying that to 

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do their forming a party. 
I talked about last week. 

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It just came. 
I don't even know. 

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Oh the oh, the Gen. 
Z, the next Gen. alliance. 

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Oh my God, that's so 
embarrassing. 

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Thing that's so embarrassing, 
but no SO if there's like a 

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specific leader or leaders like 
we see how the government is is 

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is sort of abducting people who 
they feel are, you know, in 

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charge of the information. 
And so there's that fear that, 

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hey, if we have a central place 
that the information is coming 

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off from, we'll just cut it down
and cut the movement off. 

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So I understand both sides in in
where we feel like we don't need

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to have a specific person or 
people or party or group or 

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company or whatever it is 
leading us. 

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But also there needs to be a 
better there needs to there 

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needs to be a, a way to better 
chance. 

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I mean. 
Well, I I mean I don't know the 

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information. 
Kind of the. 

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I don't know for sure. 
I think I like that this 

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movement is leaderless. 
You know the thing about like. 

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But you see, either way, the 
government is going to find ways

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to compromise both. 
But I think it's easier to 

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compromise us having a leader 
because then you have somebody 

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to target. 
Yeah. 

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And then you can, you can 
because it's, it's it'll always 

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devolve into okay, let's let's 
talk. 

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And then the talking will go on 
for two years and then there 

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will be a handshake or like 
whatever, coming to terms, which

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doesn't really translate well. 
Yes. 

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Headless chicken is is all right
if all the chicken are running 

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in the right direction, that's 
all. 

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That's you know. 
Exactly, which is why they're 

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also taking liberties to 
compromise the fact that we're 

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leaderless. 
But I think it's better even if 

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they're compromising it with 
misinformation and the 

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abductions, of course, and just 
making it so that, you know, 

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there's multiple sources of 
information and there's no, 

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because that's what they're 
trying to do. 

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Just try to like manipulate the 
fact that there's no leader. 

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Like I think it's better than if
they were just manipulating like

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the the clear leader and 
whatever. 

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Because you see, if they abduct 
that person, there would be a 

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huge breakdown and loss of 
confidence behind this protest 

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and stuff, in my opinion. 
So like, it is what it is. 

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Like obviously they they're 
fighting back, but we are also 

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fighting, you know what I mean? 
So Thursday, Thursday ended up 

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not being like the day that it 
should have been. 

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But I'm still very proud of 
everybody who went out to CBD. 

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Actually. 
That's very brave on the back of

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us having lost all those lives 
on the protest and in Gudurai. 

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But then you see that brings us 
to wrong guy, man Wrong guy was 

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another another like very, very 
unfortunate like time because 

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the images that came out of what
they did, I watched so many tik 

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toks of people just in their 
houses hearing non-stop 

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gunshots, man. 
And yeah, man, there was 

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gunshots for days. 
And then obviously the videos of

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the children, man, the the two 
that stood out for me was the 

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one kid who was just lying on, 
on the ground, his leg at a 

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very, very odd angle with a, 
with a vacant expression, just 

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looked like he was gone. 
And then there was the other one

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of the, of the of the two guys 
on the border border holding the

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baby who had been shot. 
I'm just like, bro, I don't weak

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what, what, what is going on 
here? 

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Seriously. 
Like seeing those videos was 

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super painful, man. 
Like imagine seeing that. 

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That's your child. 
That's, that's your relative. 

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That's, that's your friend. 
Bro. 

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When, when, when, when I was 10 
years old, man, my, my, my 

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biggest worry was homework. 
It wasn't whether I'm going to, 

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like, survive. 
Yeah. 

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Or if I'm going to be short. 
This is it's, it's, I don't know

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man like that all. 
All I know is I really do hope 

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that whoever is responsible for 
all of that is like really 

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brought to justice. 
If it's the police, then that 

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they're held accountable for it.
And I don't, I don't think. 

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We know who was responsible. 
Yeah, yeah, because that's super

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sad. 
I mean, I it's really sad. 

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Like, this is not where we don't
live in a war-torn zone, you 

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know, like this is not, let me 
not mention the countries, but 

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then, but we all know them. 
Countries that have been at war 

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and you're scared should just 
come out of your house because 

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gunshots and gunshots are like a
regular sound of the of, of. 

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Yeah. 
So it's really unfortunate. 

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Definitely condolences to 
everyone who lost people. 

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I, I, I, I, I like the fact that
a lot more Kenyans seem to 

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identify with, with people like 
that's one of the beauties of 

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this movement is it's classless.
It doesn't matter where you 

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where you live. 
It doesn't matter whatever it 

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is, like everyone at this point 
is we have common, a common 

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desire that's driving us. 
And so we're all able to see 

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these things and point them out 
as wrong rather than being, oh, 

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it's not my problem because I 
don't live in that area. 

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It's not my problem because I 
don't, you know, which is very 

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divisive rather than than 
bringing us together. 

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So that's one of the beauties of
this movement is there's a lot 

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more togetherness in, in, in how
we're doing things. 

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But yeah, it's very sad what's 
happening. 

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Again, hopefully people who are 
the people who are responsible 

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are brought to Swift justice. 
And Speaking of the people who 

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are responsible, I mean, we've 
just come. 

446
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,560
So we're recording this on 
Sunday and we've just come from 

447
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:34,080
watching the round table that 
the president, I said I wouldn't

448
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,760
call him that, that William 
Bruto had with Linus, Linus 

449
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:47,440
Kaikai and Eric Klatif as well 
as Joao man. 

450
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,120
And yeah, like shout out to them
because they actually were 

451
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:57,920
asking the hard questions, man. 
And and and and showing him 

452
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,280
clips of things that he has said
and done and asking him, how do 

453
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,080
you feel? 
Man, how do you feel? 

454
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,760
What do you think? 
Let's let's review your game 

455
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,320
tape. 
Let's review your game tape. 

456
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,720
How do you feel? 
About Yeah, exactly. 

457
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Let's review your game tape. 

458
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:22,440
Ruto said a bunch of nothing. 
He chose he he he used every 

459
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,960
trick in the book man to just 
like deflect. 

460
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,600
Because I I know these guys how 
they're coached like to answer 

461
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,240
questions, especially when they 
don't want to answer questions 

462
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,240
is you always have to take the 
narrative and whatever you ask, 

463
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,520
like somebody could ask, could, 
could say, like you could ask me

464
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,600
Afam, how was your day? 
And I'll respond by saying, 

465
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,600
well, you know, days are 
relative and the definition of 

466
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,320
me thinking about has changed. 
Yeah, it has changed. 

467
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,360
And we have to address the 
people and we have to address 

468
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,000
the people who are trying to 
define what a day is, because 

469
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,400
the 24 hours that I had are not 
the same. 

470
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,840
I mean, the 24 hours I used to 
know for what they used to be 

471
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,520
and what they used to represent 
are not the same as what they 

472
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,520
are today. 
And that's why you know what I 

473
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,320
mean? 
So you just end up like 

474
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,480
answering your you have to. 
So that's what the politicians 

475
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,200
do. 
You ask them the question and 

476
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,880
they just go off on a tiny. 
Man, you ask the question. 

477
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,560
And then they. 
Yeah, they create. 

478
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,120
They create another question 
from your question, then they 

479
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,840
answer it without really 
answering what you've asked 

480
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,120
them. 
And then now they look at you 

481
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,920
like, like expectantly, like, 
see, I've answered your 

482
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,040
question. 
No, you haven't. 

483
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600
You've just really answered your
own questions. 

484
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120
And that's essentially what he's
just done. 

485
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,960
Yeah, they definitely they've, 
they've, they've, they didn't 

486
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,840
back down from the really 
important questions, which which

487
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,000
I really applaud them for, you 
know, the, the, yeah, 

488
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,960
definitely. 
And, and when he didn't answer, 

489
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,240
they pushed and pushed and 
pushed and pushed and pushed. 

490
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,600
Of course, if he's not, if he 
doesn't answer the questions, I 

491
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,160
mean, and give like actual 
answers, they can't sit there 

492
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,400
until until 2:00 AM in the 
morning still trying to get an 

493
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,520
answer out of him. 
So, but I think they did a good 

494
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,280
job so far and it'll be 
interesting to see what people 

495
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,040
are saying about that. 
But yeah. 

496
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,440
I mean, bro, Ruto, Ruto has done
he's done. 

497
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,320
So like bro, he's thrown the 
police under the bus, then he's 

498
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,480
defended what they've done, then
he's thrown them under the bus 

499
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,160
again. 
In in the meantime, he's fired 

500
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,600
his wife. 
He's fired like he's he's said, 

501
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,840
you know what? 
OK, cool. 

502
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Like he's probably. 
Going into timeout, the poor 

503
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,960
guy. 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

504
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,400
He's he's going to sort them out
like, and you know how that guy 

505
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,960
is going to. 
Be called for a meeting tomorrow

506
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,640
morning probably, but we don't. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

507
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Anyway, Chantal. 
Is a dangerous gaslighter a 

508
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,600
manipulator? 
He's in a position where, and 

509
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,640
you know, what he's done now is 
he's, he's given like the worst 

510
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,160
thing you the, the, the worst 
thing you can do right now is 

511
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,360
give promises to people who are 
right at your door. 

512
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,160
They're, they're, they want you 
to, to make a move and they want

513
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,440
you to make a move now. 
And he's given promises. 

514
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,000
He's given multiple promises 
about corruption. 

515
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,320
He's given multiple promises 
about, you know, attempting to 

516
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:31,120
reduce the unnecessary spending 
in the government. 

517
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,200
He's given all these promises 
and he's, he's, he's starting to

518
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,680
throw around timelines and 
whatnot. 

519
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:42,880
He, the ice that he's on is 
paper thin at this point, so he 

520
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,440
can't, he cannot bear to stand 
in one position and feel like, 

521
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,720
like he he has all the time in 
the world because that might 

522
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,600
break and you'll fall into icy, 
icy waters. 

523
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,720
So yeah, it's up to us to 
continue to hold him 

524
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,360
accountable. 
So that doesn't. 

525
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Stop. 
And Speaking of Speaking of 

526
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,160
continuing to hold him 
accountable, So the agenda for 

527
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,960
next week remains, man, we're 
still protesting on Tuesday and 

528
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Thursday, although I must say 
there's like two different like 

529
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,160
directives going, going about. 
And, you know, obviously like 

530
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,720
we've been talking about like, 
you know, there's a lot of like 

531
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,040
attempts to kind of like have 
different messaging in this 

532
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,120
period, have people a bit 
confused and stuff like that. 

533
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,280
But Tuesday and Thursday still 
happening. 

534
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,480
So, you know, in the early in 
the week, there was a Seven Days

535
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:49,280
of Justice poster going around. 
And then after that, there was a

536
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,760
7 seven days raging on poster 
going around. 

537
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,920
And now the prominent poster 
going around is the seven days 

538
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,680
journey to the new Saba Saba. 
So yeah, there's different 

539
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,440
posters going around and 
everything. 

540
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,280
But me, me personally, all I 
know is Tuesday and Thursday is 

541
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:15,440
very much on every Tuesday, 
Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday is 

542
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,239
still happening, man. 
So we're not relenting until our

543
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,960
concerns are are heard. 
And our primary concern is that 

544
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:29,679
Ruto must go. 
I do like the Saba Saba poster 

545
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:34,040
because it's, it's kind of 
equating the circumstances that 

546
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,080
led to Saba Saba day in 1990 to 
what's happening today. 

547
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:44,320
And you know, the common 
denominator is a leader who is 

548
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,960
very much dictatorial. 
And so according to the Saba 

549
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Saba poster, on July 1st, which 
is Monday, it'll be for the 

550
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,600
flag. 
In honour of those who have lost

551
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160
their lives fighting for a 
better Kenya, we share flag 

552
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,880
pictures. 
Tuesday will be iPod Day with 

553
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,120
support from the Police Reforms 
Working Group. 

554
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,360
We need to present grievances on
police brutality, therefore 

555
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,000
issue notice for a peaceful Saba
Saba rally on Sunday. 

556
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,200
Wednesday will be a day of 
shame, name and shame 

557
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,360
individuals in Zacchao's 
government who have featured in 

558
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,800
all manner of scandals before 
and after their appointments. 

559
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaking of which, there's 
somebody who created a portal 

560
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880
where all you need to do is type
in the name of an MP and it'll 

561
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,520
pop up with all their 
corruption. 

562
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,600
Have you seen this some? 
No, no. 

563
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Yeah, some, somebody created a 
portal where if you just type in

564
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680
the name of the of the MP, it'll
bring up all the corruption 

565
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,840
cases that they have. 
And I think you can also try and

566
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,320
recall them as a as a result or 
something like that. 

567
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,680
It's actually very insane. 
Like, that's interesting, the 

568
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,640
capabilities that technology is 
allowing us. 

569
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,400
So yeah, so on on Wednesday, 
that's all we'll be doing. 

570
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:17,400
We'll be shaming them. 4th of 
July on Thursday will be a day 

571
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,800
of mothers gathering at Jivanji 
Gardens and elsewhere around the

572
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,240
country in solidarity with our 
mothers who have lost their 

573
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:28,600
children. 
On Friday the 5th day of fathers

574
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,400
gathering a dead and Kimathi 
statue and elsewhere around the 

575
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,000
country in solidarity with our 
fathers who have lost their 

576
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,680
children on 6th. 
On Saturday will be Saba Saba 

577
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,960
mega concert at a venue to be 
confirmed plus a live stream on 

578
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640
YouTube. 
And on Sunday which will 

579
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,360
actually be July 7th Saba Saba 
day, there'll be vigils. 

580
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,120
Nairobi citizens gather at 
Kimathi statue and March to 

581
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,640
Nyayo house and keep a vigil 
outside the building. 

582
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,200
Also have countrywide vigils in 
the 47 counties. 

583
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:08,320
And at the back of the poster or
the second poster just shows the

584
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,480
kind of history that Saba Saba 
holds for our country. 

585
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,680
And I think it's really well put
together and it's a very 

586
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,360
sensible To Do List for next 
week. 

587
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Yeah, I mean that that seems 
like the directive especially 

588
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,320
for the for the for the the man.
The man was the Tuesday and the 

589
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Thursdays again, we still go 
out. 

590
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,200
We still go out. 
We still keep to the goal. 

591
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,960
We still attempt to to get 
ourselves heard. 

592
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,920
The president keeps, I mean, 
Ruto keeps talking about about 

593
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,560
conversation and conversation 
and conversation. 

594
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,760
We need to amplify our voices to
make sure like the country 

595
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,600
belongs. 
The country is is is the 

596
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,520
people's like we are the ones we
make up the country. 

597
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,520
So we definitely should, should 
should keep that up. 

598
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Yeah, it must go. 
It's. 

599
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,360
Difficult, it's difficult to go 
out knowing, I know like the 

600
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,920
first, the first day, like the 
charge is great because you know

601
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,240
you're going out for cause and 
you don't anticipate yourself, 

602
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,800
you know, being dying for no 
reason, right. 

603
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,880
So the more you see that, the 
harder it probably becomes and 

604
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,320
the more braver we we need to be
about this kind of thing. 

605
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,080
So not to be insensitive. 
I know like losing a life is 

606
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,560
definitely a scary thing. 
Like, it's hard to see a cop 

607
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,080
just like raise his gun and fire
at you and the of the friends 

608
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,640
around you just because you guys
are standing up for yourselves. 

609
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,040
So I know that's really tough, 
but I think it's, it's still 

610
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,120
important that we we're outside.
It's important that we we push 

611
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960
till the end and not let it die 
out. 

612
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Yeah. 
Indeed. 

613
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Yo. 
So when it comes to music, I 

614
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,040
mean, people haven't really been
releasing as frequently. 

615
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,880
And I completely understand. 
I know a lot of people have 

616
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,800
postponed like events and 
postponed shows and even 

617
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,760
postponed like their releases. 
I mean, right now isn't really a

618
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:14,400
time where I think our message 
needs to be streamlined into 

619
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Ruto Must Go. 
And yeah, so I understand if the

620
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,240
music has slowed down South. 
Yeah. 

621
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,880
I don't know, Sam, what? 
What do you think we should do 

622
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,840
for the end of the podcast this 
week? 

623
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,680
I think I think in, in, in, in 
in line of what we did last 

624
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,440
week. 
It's yeah, I like, I like it 

625
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,760
when when music, I said it last 
week, like when, when artists 

626
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,920
sort of like journal the the the
voice of the people and try to 

627
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,840
amplify it. 
So I think we should continue 

628
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,120
with that, play another song 
that that, and we have many, we 

629
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,400
have many songs that are that 
are, you know, I don't say 

630
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,400
protest songs, but songs that 
that are sort of describing 

631
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,560
what's going on now, songs that 
call out the government, songs 

632
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,000
that encourage the people to 
speak out for themselves. 

633
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,280
So I think we should do that. 
I've got one artist who was 

634
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:16,160
really known for for that in his
early days is Eric Waina, and he

635
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,600
released a lot of music that 
that. 

636
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,440
You know, where was aimed at 
holding the people who need to 

637
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680
be held accountable in the 
government and just rallying up 

638
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,880
the people to fight for 
themselves and their rights at 

639
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,840
in the middle of a government 
that might not necessarily be be

640
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,080
fighting for them. 
So I think we should do that. 

641
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,560
The song I I I really like. 
It's actually a very good song. 

642
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,960
It's very well recorded. 
If you listen to it like it's 

643
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,440
very well recorded. 
The mixing is great and the song

644
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,840
has a good, very good message. 
It's a song of his album. 

645
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,600
I don't know what year he did 
it, but it's 2020. 

646
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,640
I think that's the name of the 
album. 

647
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,880
And the song is called Deck 
deck. 

648
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,360
It's a very amazing song. 
So I think that's what we'll 

649
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,760
play. 
This is Deck Deck by Eric Waina.

650
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,520
In a made-up language, in a 
made-up time. 

651
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:34,040
A made-up people with a made-up 
pride. 

652
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:48,120
Singing deck, deck, deck. 
In my fabrication on the 

653
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:56,880
Townsling St. stood an army Jane
roll trying to make a speed. 

654
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,800
The people would not listen. 
They weren't listening anymore. 

655
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,520
It lost too many children. 
In a. 

656
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Stupid war singing. 
Dead, dead, dead. 

657
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:33,640
And the tent began to roll, but 
the people would not fool. 

658
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:41,720
And the Tiggers began to choke, 
but the people would not fool. 

659
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,520
They said come and get me, you 
blood circles, come and get me. 

660
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,320
I'm all for what I'm saying, 
that I will live much longer 

661
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:15,680
than the skin of living. 
Plus still independence. 

662
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:26,320
It's still a shade of red, 
despite best efforts to help us 

663
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,680
forget. 
If you listen carefully to the 

664
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:43,040
blades of red here the missing 
pages of our story when the 

665
00:43:43,080 --> 00:44:13,960
tanks began to roll the 
the. 

666
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,480
The that was Eric Wainaina with 
deck deck to just charge the 

667
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:19,960
people and, and, you know, keep 
us in that same mind frame of we

668
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,520
really want to see change in our
government, really want to see 

669
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Kenya move forward and, and all 
the things that have been 

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holding us back. 
Like it's time to it's time to 

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see them. 
Like we're done being quiet 

672
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about this kind of stuff. 
So yeah, man. 

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Yeah, bro, before we end, I want
to give a huge shout out to 

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Hanifa, Hanifa Safi on Twitter. 
If you're looking for her man, 

675
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you know she has done the most 
man. 

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She started An M Changa for all 
the people who either died or 

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got injured during these 
protests. 

678
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The initial goal was for 10 
million, but as of today it has 

679
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I think it's at 28 million 
raised and I think that's 

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insane. 
And she's been almost single 

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handedly disbursing these 
amounts to people who have been 

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sending her messages via her 
WhatsApp and showing her the 

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medical records of okay, like, 
you know, this person has 

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suffered this and requires this 
for treatment, E TCTC. 

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And I think she's doing it like 
single handedly. 

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Like, and even if like so many 
people are on on, you know, she 

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was, she was one of the voices 
that was heavily saying, if you 

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guys go to State House, you 
know, I can't guarantee you, you

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all won't be shot. 
And a lot of people were like, 

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oh, you're being, you've been 
paid, you've been compromised. 

691
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And they were like even using it
as an opportunity to be 

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Islamophobic. 
But bro, you can't even imagine 

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the amount of pressure she's 
under and and bro, she she's 

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doing the most. 
I think we need to give her like

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a lot of grace. 
She's trying her best and she's 

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doing some she's doing the 
Lord's work. 

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Literally man. 
So shout out to Hanifa, man. 

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She is someone you know, to just
look up to because it's insane. 

699
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:22,160
She's act actively changing 
lives by just but you know, 

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people can't afford all the the 
high bills and also, you know, 

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the funeral costs and 
everything. 

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And and just doing all all of 
that and being accountable 

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because she's even gone out of 
her way to show spreadsheets of 

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even how much Mchanga is taking 
as like transactionary costs, 

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which by the way, is insane. 
And we have to have another talk

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about Safaricom and what they do
there. 

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00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,720
But like, shout out to Hanifa. 
Yeah, shout out to Hanifa again.

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Big, big shout out. 
We'll never forget your name. 

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00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,000
Like and the things that you did
during these difficult times 

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with that. 
Sam. 

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That was eighty episode 83 of 
the 30% podcast. 

712
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,680
And yeah, man, thank you guys so
much for listening. 

713
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Yep, Sam, No. 
We're good. 

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00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,160
We're. 
Out. 

715
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,760
OK. 
All right, we'll see you guys on

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episode 84.
