Japan, I love this. I love this pen so much.
It's so simple from Japan and it's so it's just So what do you
like? About it.
I love its features. I love the feel of it.
I think it's got this cool little.
I love the little trigger thing there.
It's got a great click. Listen.
This one does a similar thing to it.
Yes, very important to have. Yeah, great clicks on these pens
and it's just got a good, it's a little 0.5.
It's got a great way to it. Which I really appreciate.
And my little Smisky holds it. It's one of those two.
Also a 0.5. I bought a blind box today too.
I was irresponsible today. What the hell?
What is this Black Friday sales? So I thought I bought a miffy.
I thought I bought a miffy. Yeah, but you got Miffy's
friend. It's a magnet.
Oh, I was. Expecting a little figurine.
This was like $15. OK, so $15.00 for a little tiny
magnet, which is fine. It's very cute.
It is very cute. I I honestly think that has more
like more more use cases than than the than the regular blind
box. I kind of appreciate that.
I think you know exactly. Where to put it on the my ruler
piece of metal? Yeah.
How long is that 24 inch ruler I just tacked to the wall?
And I use that and I put little magnets on it.
So I've just put this diva on it and it's really cute, but I was
not expecting it to be a magnet. Can I do a little show and tell?
I've received some. Please, I just did mine.
Too. Please. 1st I'll start with the
the one of the best things I've ever been made, which is the the
painting of of my show poster. This is.
Incredible. Absolutely unbelievable.
I don't know how. Like I didn't know paint could
be this bright. It's so.
Accurate to the same. Shade.
In your eye, like there's like a medieval yearning in there.
I. I really appreciate how like
like the styling of it instead of like, like instead of like
getting the the letters right here and stuff.
Just doing this kind of like washy impressionist style.
I really appreciate it. It's there's so much emotion in
it and it's pretty that that was pretty incredible to receive.
Wow. The same post also made me these
two. Speaking of notebooks, we got
the intimate design book, the actual book, and this is a, this
is a lined notebook that we've got and it's like, like it's
inside, like even on the side, like it's the whole, it's the
whole thing at the back. But now you have to make the
book. Book signing Collector's
edition. I know like.
Being upside down is perfect. Yeah, so good.
And it's like it's perfect. It's just it's incredible.
It's it's so well, well done. Like it's so it's just so well
done. I can't believe how well that
is. And then I got.
Oil press on the back. I think it, yeah, I think it
was. I believe these were yeah, yeah,
yeah. I made this for Elliott with my
mom's cricket cricket mention. So I don't know if the gradient
was always here on this. I think it is.
I think the gradient is was on it and then they've gone over
the top and just matched the colour, which is sick.
That's crazy. Yeah, this one has the dots at
the bottom as well as the line at the top.
Pretty sick. Pretty, pretty cool.
Pretty insane. I can't believe it.
And then finally someone else made and and and they did give
me two. So I have I have some for you as
well. When when you get the chance,
but. The geek lives on.
Oh my. God lives on.
I was like, I was like the geek and then a fish because they
were like, I already make fish, so I just thought it made sense.
And I was like, oh wow. And then it was like of.
Course, you already make fish naturally.
So I think these, what are they like lino cuts or something?
Yeah, they're like the. Way they've.
Been made, yeah, and then? They're so cool.
You know, all handmade stuff and there's two sets of these.
So don't worry, people. People think of you, Kel.
It's very sweet. I don't think of you, Jared,
unfortunately. We'll get there.
We'll make it happen.
Well, there's four in total.
Everyone can get one. Me, our three and our 4th member
Jack Conte from Patriot. Second Elliot.
Yeah, second Elliot. Damn, what a good little
collection of stuff. Pretty amazed.
Forever amazed by like Zeli. That's a really good example of
merchandising. Yeah, yeah, right.
Like I. Like when it's like, you know?
It's so crafty and so creative. Like the idea.
I love the intimate design notebooks so much.
I'm like I should make those. That is absolutely what it you
that what people should get, But I want I would want to make the
cover better. I feel like the cover isn't as
good as I want. I want it to.
Be oh, I think it's perfect I. Want to look like amazing.
Yeah, but that's neat. Pretty.
It is pretty. It does it does it well.
Yeah. What a fun show.
Thank you to everybody came to the Sydney run.
That was that was, we are now three days.
It's Wednesday today filming this.
I just did them on the Sunday and I'm so tired from the shows
but so overwhelmed with love and joy for the game because comedy
is back, comedy is legal and in person events go crazy
interacting with people. It was so much fun.
And you had a bigger crowd this
time. Yes, yes, full houses, baby. 150
of you guys in each night. It was awesome.
It was so. Cool, so many people.
And the room makes it feel small, which is really cute.
So it's like the noise is really loud, but the the kind of room
still feels really intimate. You can see everyone, especially
when I did Q&A, like I was still able to like ask questions from
the back because of course, most of the show is Q&A in character.
And the book killed reading the book in Melbourne.
Reading the book was always the challenge.
And I thought that like reading the book was purely so people
would have good questions to ask.
And the questions were the funny part.
This time the book went, the book went off.
Sydney loved the book and I was like, oh, damn, I've actually
made quite a funny book. There was some new lines in
there. I added a line about crawling
out of a bathroom on all fours on a date and I was got killed.
I lost it at that. I laughed myself.
Don't cringe, dad. It's it happens to all of us.
I have to burst out laugh. Why would you hold in laughter?
You can't do that around Elliot. He's gonna take personal events
to it. Why?
Do we hold in laughter? This is the thing.
This is all of Melbourne. I was like, well, not all of it,
but some of the some of the quieter shows.
I was like, why are we not laugh?
Like come. On Do you think maybe people
were like laughed out because it was like a Comedy Festival that
they've just, they've laughed all their laughs for the month?
I have to say sometimes it's important to reflect as a
comedian and think, hey, maybe that person in the crowd who was
like staring off into the distance the entire night wasn't
just like disengaged and not into the show.
Maybe they found out some really bad news today and they had they
came to the show because they didn't want to waste their money
and they're just processing that that happens like.
I need something to cheer me up. Legit, the entire family
exploded. But you know what?
I. Heard it.
I gotta do it on the Saturday night.
I heard someone say that. They, they, they, they, they
heard someone leaving the venue going God, I needed that.
And I'm like, that's so nice to hear.
Stop. That's awesome.
Yeah, I was like, because this Saturday night was so much fun.
Like it was like the best parts of graphic design live that I
like when I was like doing that show, especially like the
breathing into the mic, like getting audience members like
really like pissing themselves because they were like, Oh my
God, what is this? And I was like, I want to do
more of that, like get more of those moments.
And I it was just so like 10 times the amount of that.
Like, I just feel like it's such an evolution.
It was so much fun. And I think everyone left having
a really good time. I wish I recorded that.
I did a voice memo of the Sunday night and it was still unreal.
But like, you know, very, very different.
Very well. Not very different, but just a
bit bit more. They've they've warmed up to it
a bit slower. Whereas the first night, you
know, there was someone sitting in the front row with a bald cap
on and she was so into it. This merely got into, I was
like, like, they're just people showed up.
It was awesome. It was awesome.
I hope that becomes a new tradition where people wear bald
caps to the show because it's really, it's really quite funny.
It's awesome. There's something about a bald
cap. It's just very uncanny.
Yeah, right. It's just odd.
Especially if it really looks like a bald cap.
Yeah, it. And they always do.
They always do. They very rarely look like any
more effort was was done to them than just putting.
They're hard put on OK as as someone who's done 2 in my life,
yeah, it's hard and. How do you wash them all those?
Photos. I think they're the ones that I
use are like a one and done. Yours is like a unit.
It's thick. It's like silicone.
Like, it's like, yeah, it's disgusting.
It's like, could you like jiggle it around and it would go like?
Yeah, oh, 100%. Like it feels wet, Like it just,
it's not wet, but it's material. It's got, it's like a good piece
of paper, like it's got a shiny side and a rough side.
Right, as many bald heads do. Yeah.
And I'm like, which side do I wear?
And I would change it each night.
And I think the glossy side was the best because it would
reflect really well. It's reversible.
I assumed like 10. Yeah, it's, I guess so, right.
Like it's kind of it is just a piece that you could flip inside
out and it won't change anything because it's still like the
wrinkles are embossed on one way and beveled on the other
potentially. Is that, you know, you know what
I'm saying? I guess, Yeah.
That's insane, really. Enjoyed in those photos that you
posted how on the side it kind of looks like your head's dented
in these big sort of like soft spots, like a newborn baby.
They do. And I never was able to round it
out entirely, like fill it out you would hope it would.
And then it just, I think I had too much hair, so it would just
kind of sit on top of me, which left it in its natural form,
which had a bunch of ridges. You just didn't spend enough
time on your tummy as a baby and your your bald head is just
misshapen now. Yeah, it was a it's a lifelong
thing that I'll have to kind of settle.
Like it's it's kind of like this is the shit I was taking with
the audience. And it's just like, like that's
not right. I was like, oh, let me take some
photos of the audience and post them.
I don't want to post that. Is this the same bald cap?
It's the same board cap every single night.
Like out of all of the times that you've worn the bald cap,
OK, same bald cap have not replaced the bald cap And do you
wash the bald cap? No I've never watched the bald
cap and my skin hates me for it gets very itchy and red.
I'm getting a head massage tonight.
That's what I know. It was gifted to my brother.
Can I read you guys a message as well that I received that I
haven't posted about but I wanted to read this message?
Absolutely, which I think. It's, that's the way I've always
said my shows are a great date night, right?
That's a joke and then I get this message.
I met a guy and started relating and bonding about some of your
graphics on comedy a couple of years ago.
An ADHD journey. Ended up asking him on a date to
see book signing in Melbourne in March.
We're dating now and things are fantastic.
Thanks for being funny and can't wait to see what you'll do next.
And that is the second confirmed case.
Not the book signing meet and queue.
Oh my God. It's happened twice now.
It's happened twice. Someone else was asked out and
then they came to the the next year and we're like, we're
dating now and I'm like, Oh my God, it's awesome.
Expect an invite just. For the lovers, yeah, I do think
if you're if you're interested in like if you like my type of
comedy, I think it's quite quite and like the ground design world
and stuff. I do think you would have a lot
of in common with the other audience members.
I do think it's. Like there's a lot of weirdos.
Yeah, 100%. That's great.
Everyone gets. It that's awesome.
That's so cute. Congrats guys.
Lovers, shout out to the lovers of the world who come to my
show. I feel it on stage.
I feel the love. Yeah.
As I play the loneliest man on stage.
As you groan on stage. That's like groan, and I beg,
and I beg for a laugh, and I sing and I dance.
Please God it's fun. Please give me a little laugh.
It is what it it is. That is what it feels like a
little bit just made begging staring at me do.
You ever feel like a court jester?
All the time. And I love that feeling.
God, I love it. I do anything.
It's my, I'd love to think it's my, it's my job.
It's my life's work to make the king laugh.
And in my mind, the king, the audience.
Is do you feel more like a court jester or a clown?
Court jester, I think. A clown.
A clown is too, I think I I've tried to associate myself.
In clownery. I, I've tried to associate
myself with the clowns, the clowning style of comedy and
stuff. And I don't think it's for me.
I think it's too a lot of the, the clowning revolves around
this thing of like taking it's very audience forward, which I
think is what I do now. But it's also like you position
yourself at you get you get yourself to a point where you're
so vulnerable that like any laugh is like such like a Oh my
God, like Alaf, this is the best thing ever.
Like this is all I need. Like the Oh my God.
Whereas I think like when I do that, it becomes a bit like
desperate. And I think I'm more like my
version is more. The.
Characters, yeah. Like my clown is more of a
gesture, I think, because it's like I'm not discovering my ACT.
I have an act and I'm like, this is fucking funny.
You guys got to get on board kind of thing.
Like that's what the character is thinking in his head.
He. Thinks he's the funniest guy in
the world. Yeah, I.
Think so a Thing versus yeah clown.
Just somebody's like stumbled on.
Yeah, clown is a bit more like, oh, what's happening?
Like, Oh my God, I just dropped everything on the ground and now
I'm like slipping over picking them up.
But people find it funny. So I'm gonna keep and I'm and
I'm jacking off like this. Like so many things that don't
cringe, Jared. There's so many things that can
like that are so different. It's so different.
And I think like whenever I tried doing that and I'd be a
bit more like I'm the same. I'm like, oh, like I just felt,
I don't know. I felt weird because I think my
audience are so loving that like it doesn't.
Maybe if they didn't know me, I could play the clown better, but
they're almost like so ready to like support me that I, that
there's no point like trying to get like work for it because
they will just jump on it immediately, which is amazing.
And I think it's such a weird thing to kind of work out being
like, Oh no, they'll, they'll like they want me to be
confident. They want me to win in a way.
And I think you want a clown to win, but they, but I, I don't
know, they just wanted me to win.
It was really cool. I feel like getting there is is
different. Yeah.
Like you have to like root for a clown longer.
I I want people to look at me and go like, this is what?
Like this guy's such an idiot. Like this guy, why does he think
he's so funny when he's not? But you still want him to win,
even after all that, Even after all the dumb shit he says, the
ways he keeps ruling. His little bell on his little
hat. Yeah, that's the funniest shit
I've ever seen. Why do I still love him though?
That's what I want it to be when I sing at the end and they go
damn why do I actually feel sorry for this guy?
Like, I think that's the difference.
Why is this beautiful? Why is why is this beautiful?
You know, Anyway, that was a good time.
That was a good time. Hey, I'm glad.
What are we doing today? There was a comment on this
week's episode that went up that said this podcast is slowly
turning into a basketball podcast and.
Great comment. You'll never guess what we're
doing today. Can.
We plan this. We plan this before that comment
as well, which is very funny I think.
I saw that and I was like, were they in the call when we were
talking about that? Like, yeah, that's crazy.
It was a SO. VLB the 6th Thank you.
All my podcasts are slowly becoming more basketball
focused. First waveform now Kelly.
I don't know what the waveform 1 is, I've never heard of this,
but I like that it's all happening.
It's. Good to talk, just a glimpse
into how basketball oriented we are becoming.
So today we are going to make game day posters for a matchup
that will absolutely happen. Totally, 1000% will happen
because these are two very good, historically very good teams
that have really, you know, 1. So obviously we're doing, Oh
yes, definitely not constant front office issues, arena
issues, player issues, talks. About relocating.
All constant threats. We're going to move the.
Team. Basketball town.
So obviously we're doing the Wizards versus the Trail
Blazers. 2 elite teams that are winning big league all the time.
So I love game day, but we have a number.
Yeah. We shouldn't have been.
I don't know why. I do.
Feel sorry that.
Like, you know, we'll try to limit the amount of, I mean, we
don't have to, but we'll just try to limit the niche
basketball chat and just have it on in the as fodder in the
background. But I will say though, the the
Blazers are in a familiar position for me as the Wizards
were always like the eighth seed, the seventh seed, the
sixth seed, first round exits and just churning the same, just
just on the same treadmill every year.
And then they finally did something about it and we copped
2 years of being the biggest embarrassed and we let Bam out
of bio score 83 points on us this year.
That does mean that we so that happened to the Wizards because
that is 1000% something that would happen to the fucking
Blazers. Like that is such a Blazers
phenomenon to happen. Like, talk about ESPN stats.
Yeah, like, like the Blazers conjure the most niche ESPNS
stats. Like, it's stuff that nobody
could even think of happening. The Blazers have a stat on it.
First play the. Business themselves.
With themselves cry on the clock since 1992 and also score a
triple double with turnovers, turnovers and turnovers.
Yeah, it's it is pretty the Wizards are very like I've I've
seen some pretty dark days of Wizards history like the the the
biggest comeback in NBA history, I'm pretty sure is against the
Wizards. And I watched that full game and
that was like and if you any you will believe anything can happen
at that point to your team. Like how can you ever trust
A-Team when you win someone scores 83?
Points when. You're triple teaming someone
and he still scores 83 points. You will believe the refs are
getting paid. You will believe.
They just start thinking they're just giving it to him.
Yeah, yeah, maybe they want it to happen.
Maybe they want a headline, maybe they want a few more
clicks. Alas.
Anyway, it's a two big teams. They're going to definitely make
the finals probably next year. I'm saying it the way I'm saying
it is next. Year Damian Lillard will be back
next year, and he will be a spry 22.
For sure, he's never been better.
He still hits three. It's like he's three.
There is a cool thing that some teams do.
I've reported it on a YouTube video.
I made a video a few years ago, God a few years ago about wow,
passing of time, about wow. I made three videos last year
about NBA teams and their social media, like what they do to
promote the team and like game day and stuff like that.
Most teams were very boring except 2 at the time, the Dallas
Mavericks and the Cleveland Cavaliers.
They were the only two teams that at the time appeared to be
doing anything interesting where they would post make posters of
the game day. And they would like hire artists
and cool graphic designers to do them.
It was really cool. Most teams now I think, are
jumping on this. The Wizards are now doing it,
which is crazy. They're making the.
Blazers did it a couple years ago.
We have a bunch of game day posters from one year.
We were season ticket holders and if it was a really good
poster I would get it. But we have a couple.
You might have seen them in our dining room.
There's a really good Blazers Laker 1 and it's like, and it's
unbelievable. It's really, but they're like 11
by 17. They're perfect little posters.
And then because the previous owner of the Blazers was like so
cheap and evil, she stopped doing it.
And then we have a new owner who is the same kind of cheap and
evil. Yeah.
I don't think we're going to see a return.
It's a shame because I think it's it's one of my favorite, I
think things that people do. I think it's when whenever a a
band tours and they have a poster made by a designer in the
city that they're in to reference that.
See, I love when they do that. I love when the and, and I love
Yeah, this when, when NBA teams do it as well.
I think it's such a cool way to. Love event posters?
Yeah, even if you even if your team loses by like 40, it's
still funny that there's a poster that you can buy about
that to remember that occasion, right?
And I think that's what we want to do.
There's a guy who does it on YouTube.
You guys might have seen him, who's the Boston Celtics artist
and residents. I think that there's like the
title. I think they've they've gone in
that direction and he makes game day posters for the Celtics and
it's like, that's a really cool gig.
Like he got to make like 12 this year or something like that.
I think there was like a certain amount.
So it's more of a limited run, which I think is the better way
of doing it. I think doing 1 every game is
kind of crazy. I think like setting it up with
the rivals and stuff like that is kind of a fun way of doing
it. I.
Feel like you have a big games. Yeah, big home games.
For the physical one at least. And then the digital.
I love the idea of a digital one.
Having every the NFL does it surprising.
The Jaguars do it a lot and you can't.
I don't know if they're AI or not because they are like that
photo bashing kind of style. I don't think they are, but they
might be. But since you only play one game
a week, it's a lot easier obviously to make like put a lot
more. Effort, yeah.
They have very few games in comparison.
Yeah, like very. I cannot believe they don't play
every team. You might not play a team in the
NFL for years. That's insane to me.
You're playing them at least
twice in the NBA and then you'll play one team like 3 times and
some teams never. Like it's all division based in
the NFL. It's it's bizarre.
Absolutely. And you can play those three
games back-to-back to back. Yeah, and then have a buy.
What rest. It's a disaster for fantasy
football. So yeah, that's all we're doing
today. We're going to be making
posters, and you can make them too.
About anything? Yeah, you can do it.
About your favorite concert if you are into sports and
completely fair. You make it about Kel versus
Elliot. Yeah, like a UFC fight.
Yeah, I'd love to see that like a race, like a running race.
Like an Olympic poster, you know, but it's like.
You know, like imagine us as champion sprinters and see and
what would that suppose to look like?
Me being 7 feet tall, yeah, so. Would that be an advantage or
disadvantage, you know, elephant versus the tiger kind of thing?
Let's, well, let's skip right into it, eh?
Yeah. Awesome.
I'm doing mine to be Instagram sized.
Yeah, yeah, I think I will do the.
I think I'll do the same one. I'll do the same one.
OK, let's let's everyone, everyone gets set up and we'll
meet you over in the the file, shall we?
Do it the file. Let's do it Basketball poster
Challenge Your timer starts in 54321.
OK. Go, Jared, can you read out that
comment one more time that we were talking about as we were
off camera? You'd like me to tell you the
commenter? If you, if you wish.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna get angry at them or anything.
At Aaron HMO Four O 4 that if there ever is an episode in the
future where Elliot finishes designing before Cal without any
spontaneous singing, I will unsubscribe.
Isn't that interesting, everyone And I, I, I, I think that it's a
very good point. I do, I, I've been, you know,
thinking about this a lot about how my designs, how I get
distracted so often on these and me getting distracted enables
Kel to lock. Hey, a doughnut.
It's, you know, I'm, I do think it's important that I get
distracted. I go off on my Little Dream
stead in my little tangents so we can witness what Kell does.
But I've made a pledge to myself that I will do better.
I will make make better things starting today, however, I will.
I would also like to start this by talking by mentioning that I
did attend a 2 hour workshop yesterday on how to write a
musical and I thought I could tell you.
Did not tell us this. This is news.
I did I, it was a, it was a zoom
recording of a workshop that I missed because I was flying back
from Melbourne after the comedy fest.
But I finally got around to watching it and I actually like,
got to, got to take some good time to, to, to kind of write
down some ideas for what I would do if I if I hadn't, if I
hadn't, if I were to write a musical.
And now I actually have ideas and I think I'm going to make a
musical about logo designers, in all seriousness.
And I think it actually has legs.
I think it has legs. Does it have arms?
It has arms as well. It has a mouth.
It's got fangs. Whoa.
Instead of jaw, I'm NUM NUM. Oh.
OK. It's going to be great.
OK, I, it was actually a really in all, in all seriousness, it
was run by Eve Blake who wrote the musical Fangirls, which is a
musical that was playing here in Australia for a bit, then went
on to West End. Fantastic musical, fantastic
person. And it was like all about like
how you can like start with the idea and like try and find
something because like musicals take like like how it's until
like 6 years to ride or something like that.
Seven years, you know, like this.
It's a labour of law. It takes a long time.
It's. A joke in Peaky Blinders or not?
I don't even think it's a joke. It's a reference for Alfie's
character. What's his name?
Alfie, His name, His real name. I have vain Tom Hardy.
Tom Hardy, Yeah. Almost.
But yeah, he in like the last season because I just finished
PE Blinders. He's talking about how he's been
trying to finish his play and it it's never really addressed that
much. Or not his play.
He's writing one, an opera. Maybe he's writing an opera.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he keeps like, talking about
how he's like, I, I need to, I need to come up with an ending.
And then Kelly Murphy's like, I could be the ending.
I will say the last season of Peaky Blinders.
He becomes the ultimate corn on the cob.
Like the shit that he starts saying.
I'm like, girl, shut up. Did you like the final season?
Because it's my favorite season, I think.
The ending gagged me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Yeah.
Did you like the the different look like the Netflix look?
It was. It started to feel more like a
period piece. Yeah, yeah.
Which I'm not a huge fan of, but I didn't think it ruined the
tone of the show like I was afraid of.
Like when you said it, it's it does look a little different,
like how it shot. I was like, Oh no, Oh no, it's
just it's very smooth. Like it looks like a lot of
other like period pieces. But I think it's still like
remains true to like the feel of the show, which I liked.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, continue.
Alfie was writing, I think, an opera.
Oh yeah. But it takes a while.
Yeah, yeah. Also, I just want to very
quickly mention what I'm doing on my screen.
Everyone, this is the wizard. And that's like the ball, OK?
And imagine, you know what I mean?
Imagine it's a basketball. OK, There's something there.
That's what I'm thinking. This is the wizard.
This is. The ball, yes, that's the sketch
that I'm trying to I got to do some.
I got to find some good imagery. Maybe I'll generate some stuff,
I always a good start. Wait, what's fire light?
Shut the fuck up. Higgsfield.
Hello.
Higgsfield. I yeah, the a lot of the
workshop was about like finding that right idea that you could
sustain yourself on for like 5 years.
Because if you're going to write something for five years, you
better hope you have that good kind of first idea.
Yeah, you got to be like obsessed with it.
Yeah. And it's like part of it's like
taking like you see this kind of cool triangle diagram.
And I won't go into in too much depth because I did pay for
this, but I do believe it. Part of it comes from a book.
But there was like the basically you take what you like to look
at and what you want a musical to like look, sound and feel
like. And then you combine that with
like something in the world that fascinates you.
And then you combine that with your own personal experience.
And then those those three kind of points of the triangle should
hopefully get you something where it's like these are three
parts of you that you just have to get out, like things that you
just want to see happen on stage and you will.
And for me, the thing that I wanted the, the, the place that
fascinates me, the people that fascinate me the most are logo
designers. And I think they always have
been. I think they always have been.
And I do think I need to write a musical about it in some way or
another, which is such an insane idea.
And I wanted to feel like the movie challenges in a way like
that kind of like, Oh yeah, like, really like.
Intense. How much like Challenger?
Yeah, not too. Maybe it'll be love.
It'd be very much, but it would be.
It would be. It'd be a triangle.
But just like, I think like there's the the idea of like
how, how like people think that that, that, that, that, that
like the logo designs, feeling like this is the most important
thing. This is such an important thing,
logo design and the kind of like, I feel like that ambition
to make life change. Like think your legacy will be
these logos like world changing stuff.
And at the same time there's this under like I imagine this
main character, like the same time, there's this feeling
within you of like being underappreciated that no one, no
one gets it. No one sees the logo.
No one sees the person. They just look at it and they
go, they shrug it off. What that?
Happened like finish the logo. Yeah, yeah.
Like how that will have like that, like that you never get
the recognition and like I think even though everyone sees it's
everywhere, but no one cares and no one cares that I did it.
And I think like how that could affect someone.
And then if it's something they weren't expecting, suddenly
everybody's an expert on logo design.
Exactly, exactly. And it's like like that, that
feeling of being like this is my life's work and no one gets it.
I think it's such an interesting thing that's AI think that's
quite a universal thing. But I think like shaping that
within the world of logo design and saying what would that look
like on stage? I think could be very
interesting and. I think that's very cool.
Yeah, I think it could be fun. Yeah.
I don't know what it would look like yet.
Yeah. Isn't the isn't that's like kind
of you're kind of like doing a dramatization of the creator of
the Nike logo because wasn't that person paid like $15?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I was thinking like the
Nike, like that could be like a good basis where it's like you
have like, look, yeah, you have like someone who's going to make
something that's so like, and whether where you see that
character in the musical, is it after, is it years in the future
where they're like, they're just on a date and they bring up the
fact that they made the does it start there?
They made-up, you know, they say I made the Nike logo and no one
cares. And it's like how that it's like
the 10th time you've heard it in a week and you're like, it
starts fucking with you. And then they make like a deal
with the devil to reverse time where their name is attached on
the logo or something like, you know, something crazy like that,
some dumb, like insane thing at the end.
So I think I want it to be weird.
I want it to be like or like I said it, I was thinking as well
like potentially setting it the hours after sending it like so
it's sent off like this character doesn't care about the
design itself. It the character only cares
about the feedback. So it's like the musical is set
in the first act. It would be like awaiting the
feedback. They get the feedback at the end
of Act one song and then act 2 is like, you know, an
apocalyptic future that they've caused or some shit like that
based on how they reacted to this feat like some.
Kind of like. Insane change of time and space,
like afterwards, because I do love when you leave a show at
Act one and you come back at Act 2 and the whole set has changed
so much time has passed and like a whole kind of event has
happened. So I think like, I think that
could be, I think that could be quite fun.
There's a lot of, I think there's more I could do with it
than I than I originally thought, which is exciting.
So. Yeah, it sounds like it.
It is. I do really like the idea also
that it can worry. So it's just like, yeah, it's
like the the opening song is the like cheery, happy, I've
submitted the divine, everything is great.
Yeah. And then the self doubt creeps
in. Yeah, right.
The sort of like you're going to hate it.
Yeah. And it's like, what is that?
How how's that going to affect this character's like
relationships with other people who might be doing genuinely
really important stuff? And it's just like, like I want
to do a scene where where, where he crashes out because someone
makes a joke about a font or something.
And he's just like, like at the peak of like his like, like
anxiety and just just like you don't understand.
It's like you don't like shut the fuck up and it goes into
song. It feels like more of a play
than a musical at this point. But I feel like I can, you know,
start the journey. That's what's important, you
know. Yeah, because it's.
I think that's cool and I. Want to write all the music or
message row and do it with row potentially.
There's so many, so many things where it could take me and I
will play the lead. Obviously didn't have a doubt in
my mind. I want to show everyone this
image really quick on my screen. This is the wizard's bed,
everyone the wizard's bed. Whenever the Wizards win a game.
The Wizards community jokes about we're sleeping in the
wizard's bed tonight. I think it's a fucking on the
wizard's bed. I'm pretty sure but.
We're not, we're not just sleeping.
He's. A crazy image.
Such a wizard's bed. This is the kind of stuff we
get. This is Cory Kiss.
But wizard's plan. Go on, maybe all these can make
make it somehow. Where's a good place to find
like stock images you find? What are you looking for?
Like a wizard. Public domain vectors like.
An illustration of a wizard. Publicdomainvectors.org I'm.
Just I'm just going to find a vector.
I'm just going to find an illustration.
I'm going to find someone like. You'll find something.
Yeah.
That's it is possible to find something there?
Yeah. You just have to be willing.
Your heart has to be open. Royalty free arts you check in.
Royalty free art in the entire search.
Changes to AI imagery. Awesome awesome.
Alas, help me pixels, help me, help me vectasy, help me fix the
band. You know you're desperate when
you're when you're hitting vectasy.
Oh. Yeah, God, they suck.
This is just Harry. Potter these.
Are people doing Harry Potter cost by on pixels?
This is ridiculous. Harry Potter cause plan vectasy.
Not vectasy. I.
Feel like this concept has been done before but at this point.
My fingers are getting hot from the heat radiating from my
computer by the. Way.
Oh my God. That's.
Concerning that is, that is quite good.
Do you have an external keyboard or is it all you do it all all
native? It's all all in one so.
It's got a laptop. It's an all in one package.
It's an all in one. I don't know if you're familiar
with them. They're pretty cool, actually.
I feel like you might benefit from one sometimes It, you know,
you know, I, I, I, I, I've been saying this for a long time, but
I really feel like I, I'm going to be able to get a new computer
soon. I need to because it's like
getting bad. It's getting bad.
So whoops, you know. I keep getting worried I'm going
to melt my logic board again in the midst of like heavy client
work. Fair.
These laptops need to be better. I melted my first laptop.
You straight up melted it, that's the thing.
What? I blocked the fan.
I was a child. I fell asleep with it under my
blankets. Oh my God.
That's so dangerous, this is. Hard wait, it's bad to leave a a
hot lithium battery under a bunch of blankets when it's
running. It feels like, it feels like
those photos of like people lighting their pillows on fire.
I think they're they're falling. That's me.
I'd be doing that. Yeah, I, you know, I wasn't, I
wasn't proud of of that, but yeah, I melted my like hard
drive. Like I wasn't able to get
anything off of it because the hard drive also overheated.
Wow, so I assume you were you were watching?
Yes. Are the covers going to that is
is what were you watching? No clue, genuinely, what was I
probably watching at the time? I don't know.
It was such like AI was in like 8th grade.
I might have just been watching like Paul McCartney compilations
if I'm being so honest and vulnerable.
And I ask it like this was in your, your, your.
Sorry. Your Paul McCartney fan Damera.
Yeah, and I'm still kind of there.
I can't watch Paul's performance on SNL.
Sometimes I feel a certain type of way about people that I'm
really, really obsessed with and I like, I cannot, cannot bring
myself to watch anything in and around them.
Like, I don't understand it at all.
It just is that way. And some I feel that way
sometimes with Taylor, but I also sometimes feel that way
about Paul where it's like it's like too special to me.
Like I can't talk about it, so I can't.
That's how I feel about like Paul being on SNLI.
Can't. That's not for me to know.
So yeah, I everyone's like, Oh
my God, have you seen it? No, and I won't be watching it
for a while. That was pretty good.
Good. Do you feel like it's a like an
expect like a fail they they might fail the expectation that
you have of that experience? I, I'm not sure I've tried
talking to my therapist about this.
It's very hard for me to articulate.
Like I think it has to do with like a vulnerability thing.
Like, I fear the vulnerability so much.
And because I, like, I Paul is so special to me that like, I
can't stand the idea of other people perceiving something that
I find so endearing and important to like who I am as a
person. And then I'm also, like,
reminded of the fact that he is like, aging.
And that freaks me out. But something I've known my
like, entire life, Paul has been old.
It's not like he's suddenly aged 50 years in the past decade.
But yeah, it's like I can't explain it.
It's just, it's a vulnerability thing.
Yeah, I, I, I've dumbfounded my therapist trying to figure it
out. I don't know if it's an autism
thing maybe? Seems like it seems like it not
not. What the fuck man?
They. Can like it.
Vaccines. I'm becoming super autism and I
plan to become more autism this week as I get my vaccine so I
don't get typhoid. I mean that in the most
endearing and I like I experience it in my own way type
of way of like, yeah, it probably seems like it's in
that. Yeah, it's like, it's like an
obsession that's so intense. Like when people say like, Oh my
God, I hyper fixated on this neurotypical people never should
have learned the term hyper fixation because like I was
talking to Julia about this. Like we like have talked about
how we go into like deep like almost like wells where days
will go by. We are not sleeping normally.
We are not eating normally, we're not getting dressed
normally. Like we've become completely and
utterly anti like social. We're not staying on top of
work. Like the obsession is so
intense. That is a hyperfixation.
Not, oh, you're just into something right now like it is.
It is a debilitating symptom of autism.
It's not like a quirky thing. It's intense.
And I still have it as an adult. And I've just learned to let
myself feel those things when I feel them as a part of unmasking
so. I finally I officially broke
1000 ELO in chess. We're talking about
hyperfixation. Hell yeah.
How long did that take? I hit I did it in like 5 just
over 5 months. OK.
Zero to 1000. I started playing chess for the
first time in years in this at the end of December, beginning
of January, and then kind of had a goal.
I I heard Gotham chess L Jinx that if he played every day, he
could could reasonably get to 1000 in six months.
So that was sort of my litmus of like, well, I'm not going to
play. I I don't play that much, but I
am going to win enough to. To get there, I'm not going to
play a lot, but I am going to win.
I'm. Going to win and now I'm at that
point with like and maybe this is very similar to the Paul
McCartney thing where it's like I got to 1000 and I'm terrified
to play another game because I like do not want to drop below
1000, but I also don't feel like I have the capabilities to like
climb confidently higher. So I need to find some sort of
like medium it's. Very common in Street Fighter.
I was waiting for it. You hit Master rank and then you
stop playing because you like you feel you're you're proud of
hitting Master, but you know you can't keep playing because now
you're a master and you're like and you doubt yourself.
But the only way to get better is to fail again.
Sometimes you're going to drop out of master to be the true
master. Try, try again.
Rage, Rage Against. There have been several moments
while you guys have been chatting where I've been like on
Google looking at images and stuff.
And then I've clicked back to my file and I've said to myself, I
think this could be the most embarrassed I've ever been on
Kelly. And if I could, I might, I might
be presenting like genuinely some of the worst stuff I've
ever done in my life. And.
I I'm excited, OK. So just know that.
OK. This is a tougher, this is
absolutely one of the toughest, I think challenges.
It's well out of the wheelhouse. It's a little bit.
There's so much like reference material, like comparison is the
deep of joy in that regard, and there's not nearly enough time
to do a really excellent job. On that, but we believe that we
there is enough time. That's the issue.
Always 45 minutes is is nothing. So sure.
Honestly, some of my best designs and easiest approvals
are ones I've spent less than 1/2 hour on and it does piss me
off because sometimes I'll spend an obscene amount of time on
something and then it doesn't get approved and I'm like all
right well fuck my drug it's fine.
Not mad, not mad at all. Like there was a moment where I
had searched up furry blue hands and that's, that's where we were
like trying, like you got to understand.
It's. Just been, it's been a roller
coaster, but I actually think I'm getting somewhere right now
somehow. And somehow I'm like, oh, OK, I
think I can see where this is going.
Actually. I'm like, yes, Oh my God.
OK, I also just figured out an issue I was having.
I could not figure out why something wasn't quite working.
Redeemed OK. Band on the Run for the Band on
the Run. For the for the Kelly listeners,
just to give you some sense of time and space, as we're
recording right now, the the Cavs and the Knicks are are
playing. Have we got the half time yet?
And I think it was yesterday the Western Conference final game
happened and it was quite the game with the Spurs winning in
double overtime. Did you watch that game?
That was such a good game. That was one of the best games
I've ever watched in my life. Wow, really?
Oh, Victor Webman. That was the that was the game
where you just go Victor women Yammer is like another on
another world, like he's like it's he's amazing, like amazing.
He hit this three from the logo to tie the game in like
overtime. He just walked up and shot it
and it was just like, how did he do that?
Like it was just unbelievable. He's a talented guy and he's
French. That he is.
He is Francois. Francois.
I didn't realize that the Mavs
have just fired Jason Kidd. Really.
Interesting. Just May 19th, 7:10 PM is that.
Today. Oh, today.
Shit. Couple hours ago.
Damn. I didn't realize Messiah Jury
was the the manager, the president.
The old Raptors Raptor. Yeah, I ran into him at the
Canadian Tire near my house. That's wild, did you say?
Very cool. He was with his mother, I was
with, I was with AI was with someone and we were kind of in a
rush. We're grabbing something.
We went in and it's like one of those moments like I saw him in
the tool aisle with his mom. They needed help and I looked at
him. We looked at him and he looked
at us and I was just, it was just like, I think it was just
kind of like a knowing like we saw him and were like, this was
after they had won kind of like I think he the summer after they
had. We just kind of looked at him
with reverence. He kind of smiled.
We left with his mom. We didn't want to bother him on
I'm sure he but it was it was really cool.
Very handsome man. That's pretty sick.
Yeah, it is a fun little thing about the city of Toronto, as
you do just seem to run in the. Yeah.
Like other people, you know, or people of status like we've
especially in the East End, like we've we've come across, I think
I've said I'll do before, like Guillermo del Toro, one of his
favorite places used to be right across the street from us.
I've seen him there. We've run into Ashton Kutcher a
bunch when Mila Kunis was filming something in the city
they're staying at. East Isimomoa used to just run
along the boardwalk out here when they're filming Aquaman.
They were filming Aquaman in Toronto.
I think they filmed some definitely filmed some like BFX.
They had like a whole remember it like Downsy Park that this
entire sort of like rig setup sort of like crazy shit going
on. I think it was Aquaman.
It may have been a different may have been a different one.
Let me see Jason, maybe his Apple TV show.
Anybody have a good TV show that they would recommend?
I'm in the market. Oh.
Company retreat. The jury duty.
Yes, yes, I really enjoyed that. And and Game Changer Season 8
just premiered. Oh, I do like game changer it.
Had legal eagle. I saw that.
Yeah, and. The Eagle Eagle on.
We haven't watched it yet. We're gonna watch it tonight, so
no spoilers. Have anyone seen it?
But it seem I'm very excited. A Jeremy Culhane season premiere
with what looks to be like the rules of the game are you have
to ride the line of what would get censored on television.
That's fun. How much time do we have, by the
way? We have quite a little bit of
time, I believe good. We have 16 minutes and 15
seconds. OK, OK.
Beautiful slow pan. The camera excellent.
Excellent. Yeah.
Are we back? We'll be good.
We'll. Be back to Oh no this.
Is I'm really going to put a lot of my a lot of hope into Super
Rizzo too. So what do you?
Think I really pull it together. So I did that for one of my
illustrations and I don't remember how I did it, so I'm
like trying to apply it to the other one and I don't remember
how I did it on the first one. Nice, nice, nice.
That's that's awesome. That's tough.
I actually wait, wait a minute. What a fucking minute.
Hold on, it just dawned on me. I'm just now realizing the
shadows don't make any sense. It's OK, it's graphic design,
no? No, no.
But I think it'll really help if they make sense.
So I'm going to try and make them make sense.
I'm going to invert the shadows on this character.
That's going to be tough. I think I can do it.
I. Think you said invert and I
literally just inverted my image.
That's really funny. Oh my goodness.
So-called freethinkers. So-called fish chair thinkers
when fish doesn't when the fish chair is when.
The fish when the fish. Me when fish.
Doesn't I just remembered what I did?
Let's fucking go. Finally, Kelly.
Finally. People at home are like, this is
what you did. I watched you and I'm like, what
did I do 10 minutes ago? I don't remember.
OK, OK, OK. Whoa.
Nice. Feel like my arm has gone numb.
Oh. Like it doesn't it doesn't hurt
any more than it was. I feel like maybe it's getting
better I'm not sure. I'm like so traumatized from
like my this sounds stupid odd context but like I was so used
to my COVID shots just like completely disabling my arm for
like 3 days like I could. Oh, they hit you?
Not I Yeah, I would run a fever. I would like not be able to
sleep like it was a misery for me.
So every time, every time it it always, it always sucked, but it
still beat having COVID. Oh yeah.
Means they're working. So yeah, never had a symptomatic
case, so. The brain damage that COVID did.
Any such cases? Any such cases?
The fatigue, Yeah. It like permanently changed
Matt's sense of smell. He couldn't stand the smell of
ground coffee for a bit, but he liked that that's.
Such a good smell. Well, it like smelled like
garbage to him. And I was like, that's like one
of the best smells in the world already talking about.
But he still liked the taste of coffee.
And then it went away. Or like the the weird distortion
of the smell. He didn't like onions for a bit
because the he the like he thought onions tasted bad.
It was fascinating to observe. That is that I, I do remember
one year we had COVID really, really bad right at Christmas
and, and I was cooking us and Chris, like my, our parents, our
families are so great. They brought us a bunch of food
down. They brought our gifts down like
the day before Christmas Eve because we were like, there's no
way we're going to be able to come home, unfortunately.
And I remember cooking the roast for dinner and I was like, you
know, I'm making it. And I go to, I go to taste
something and I go, I can't taste that.
I was like, I was like, oh, that's weird.
Darby was like, oh, this wine. I don't really like the taste
this wine. I was like, how this wine
doesn't really taste like anything.
And then as I was cooking, I, I think I went to taste the, the
seasoning of the roast that I was doing.
There's a mustard in it. So I put it in my mouth, having
a very clear expectation of what this was going to, like,
generally taste like. And I was like, I was like, oh,
I can't, I can't taste anything. And I went and I went and got
like Tabasco hot sauce from the fridge.
And I took like a spoonful of that.
And I was like, yeah, there's nothing.
There's no I was like, oh, it's my taste and my smell is
completely gone. Shit.
I cooked a hell of a dinner and I couldn't taste it because the
one of the. More the worst of it all.
That's devastating. Gosh.
Three hours cooking and you find out midway through that you've
lost both your smell and your taste.
And you're like, great. I'm just, it's all texture.
This meal's ordered. Yeah, it's all.
It's all. Texture.
It's not really Wow. The mashed potatoes sure taste a
lot like the egg. Sure, tastes a lot like the
broccoli. I love this part of designing
where you just lose how to do like.
You lose sense of how to do normal things that you would do
with time. Yeah, yeah, literally.
When select subjects doesn't work and you're like oh cool,
let me just lasso to all this entire thing.
And then you just look crazy. Yeah, I'm glad.
I'm going to say that out loud so people know that this isn't.
I mean, you know, maybe this is the it's the best way of doing
it, but it doesn't feel, does not feel like it.
But but God, this feels awful. Photoshop AI bullshit doesn't
work. Yeah, I'm using 2024 when AI
wasn't a thing. It was.
It was a thing. We're we're about 9 1/2 minute.
Consider the passage of time and it moving so quickly a sign that
your inflow that you have been doing right work.
The shock that the time is going by so quickly is a sense that
you are doing the best version of that you could be doing.
You are very kind, however. Wrong.
However wrong. Oh, you're wrong.
Hello. Fuck.
Go back, Kelly, Go back. I feel you both absolutely
locked. Locked in, right?
Yeah, yeah, I feel it. I can.
I can sense it.
OK, OK, what do I want to do? Is sphere as?
Yes, I want to sphere as. My cats has been under my desk
just licking my feet and I have been trying to manoeuvre in a
way and and she's been chasing me this whole time and while it
is adorable, it is very distracting.
She's very, very distracting. Oh, my cat loves me too much.
Oh. My cat loves the buttery.
But like, but I would lift, but I when I lift her up into here
into like just then sit with me, doesn't want to be here, wants
to be down licking my legs like it as if it's a salt leg and
that's not. Have you considered maybe you're
a little salty? Yeah, you can.
Have savory. Oh no, she hates me in non
basketball news, but in Sports News, Arsenal officially won the
Premier League today. That's really exciting for a guy
like me. Let's keep it in basketball, OK?
OK all. Right, Arsenal know my
grandfather will be very happy. That's actually good to know.
I should call him. Yeah, first time in 22 years
Invincibles won it back in O 4. Pretty big deal.
Not to mention that they've they've won it with a game to go
because City drew today and that means that we get to rest all of
our guys in an opportunity to try to win the Champions League
as well. So May 30th, I'm going.
I'm bold. Hey, Jared, no matter what Kel
says, I think that's pretty cool and I'm happy that you're happy.
What's so nice of Cal? You're welcome.
Guys, this design is just not
good. That's kind of cool.
I don't know, I can't tell. It's more of AI.
Cannot wait to see. It's just so tall.
I'm telling you, it's all down to Super Rizzo now.
It's out of my hands. Yeah.
What do you, what do you think I'm doing?
Don't. Forget to group reckon reckon
mentions do grouping everything together and then potentially
doing it on the top layer. I could be wrong.
I I thought that was something that he, I saw him doing.
I'm trying, Yeah. I'm trying to remember what?
Yeah. You move the artwork into the
thing and then you check, then you apply the thing through the
thing. Right?
Yeah. Yeah.
To the group. The styles of the group.
He started posting tutorial content how to use I.
Saw this. I saw this.
OK, OK, OK, OK. OK.
Lock in, Elliot. OK, that doesn't look great.
It's only great, Kelly. So a Portland, a Portland,
Washington series. Who wins and in how many games?
Wizards win in four. Wizards in five.
A wizard sweep. Easy sweep?
No, it would probably be a pretty close matchup at the
moment. I think it would actually be
quite a close matchup. Yeah, you know, it's fun.
Put that in mind. But what are some?
Let's see if we can find the Washington Wizards Portland
Trail Blazers all time record against one another.
Oh, it is a pretty it is a pretty close match up.
The Trail Blazers have the edge. Yeah.
A total of 127 regular season games as far back as this data
set is going, and the Trail Blazers have won 68 to the
Washington Wizards 59. Interesting.
Yes. How far does this go back?
This goes all the way back to the 70s.
I see. I wondered back when Washington
was the Baltimore Bullets. Oh, bring back the bullets.
What a great name. Well, it's a pretty cool name.
It's like it's for speed. Speed.
Oh no, Bracken doesn't have a white.
Does he not have white for that colour?
No, he. Can't do that.
You can't print white, so it's the absence.
Good job. Honestly, this is kind of
devastating data because the Washington, Washington Bullets
and the Washington Wizards up until up until the year 2000
basically had Portland's number. And then it's since this modern
era that the Portland Trail Blazers have just sort of taken
the lead. Yeah, interesting.
Which I do have. I will.
We have just under 2 minutes, OK.
It's really just a shave under 2.
And as the audience knows, as Elliot has mentioned multiple
times, we always design exactly to the timer.
Yes, so true. We never go a second over.
Never. You can go back to any previous
episode. You'll see that when the timer
stops is the OBS recordings and we go directly into sharing the
designs. There isn't another 10 or so
minutes of designing. Oh, don't we have fun, don't we?
Oh, we have fun. We have a good time.
OK, I actually might have cooked.
OK. Not going to lie, I think I
might have cooked. I think I can do something with
this. That's good, 'cause there's 40
seconds left. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully doing
something with it is that you're gonna It just needs to be
exported. Is are we doing like this year's
finals? Like is this like a 2026 finals?
I think up to you. OK, 20. 27 I think maybe?
I also thought a part of it was a predictive or.
When do you? Oh, that's right, that's right.
I forgot we were doing that. Turn that off.
Whatever that sound was, turn it
off. It didn't.
No, get those lights off. Turn it off.
This exists for chair. Nice, nice, nice, nice.
No, because I actually am cooking OK, and I need to do
this. I need it.
I need to see my vision through. At this point I've locked in and
I haven't even started singing. It's not over till Elliott
starts to sing. Oh.
OK. Oh yeah, Oh, new.
New soundboard. New soundboard.
We got to sort that out. Really the only thing I'm only
positive of Cal going away is going to be.
You can just do it like regardless.
No, I know, but just get away, you know?
I I feel that, yeah. It might make you know what it
might make for some fun bonus contact Elliot just jumping into
a call and being like, all right, let's build the sound
board. Elliot has Elliot has the
technical know how I have all the sound, but does it is.
We have the power, we have the technology.
I I also want to, I also want Elliot to teach me how to set it
up so that I can so that that I can also have the sound.
Board, I'm a gatekeeper. There's something here, but it's
not happening. There's something here.
It looks insane, Kelly. So Ellie, you went for more of a
mascot? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. And Kelly, you went for more of
a traditional like. Yes.
Was there was there something that particularly inspired the
direction of either of your designs?
I think I'm just honestly bad at like working with like images of
people. I think genuinely like it's just
something I do. And I also, I don't know, I just
kind of start feeling bad that I'm doing the that they might
say it. So I like the mascots.
The mascots for me is like, so, so like easy because they're so
silly in nature and I think they're so like, like, Gee,
whizzes eyes are so insane in what I'm looking at right now
that it looks really, it looks really good, I feel.
Yeah. Cal You.
What? Don't worry about.
It OK cool. What was your you learn
inspiration? Oh, that was.
I didn't know if that was directed towards me, Mike
Carney. OK.
That's my it's like a Mike Carney design.
Yes, yes it is very much so. I'm very excited to see.
Was was the previous, I don't think I've ever asked this
question, but was the previous Kelly at vintage card design?
Was did that pre date and lead to the the Seattle Kraken jersey
design thing for you or was that something that was already
happening? That was already happening.
That was in the works for a long time before it came out.
That was a very cool thing that they.
Have you got any work because of things we've done on Caliot
specifically? No.
Then why do we? Do this I have like an actual
network that I I do think it's. Funny, it's like how it's like,
oh, what's like the one big Kelly thing we've done And it
was like Canva create and that was before Kelly it.
Yeah. In terms of like a public
appearance, well, I don't think this looks good anymore.
Trying. To think of where I get the
majority of my work, I would say Instagram.
If I'm being so honest. That's definitely my.
Still, it's still. Real on Instagram, but other
than that, I would say like my network, if you will like a
people, people just refer me. So which I'm very grateful for.
OK, I bought a plug in. I never buy plug insurance but I
did. OK, yeah, while we were
recording. Oh, no, no, I had this.
I had this. It was a recommendation per
front of the pod, Julia. Hey, it is from Texture Labs,
which I love, love them. If they start using AII, think
they're going to have to put a net around my house because I'm
going to jump off the roof, I think.
I had Lowe's business. Oh, big time.
But I bought this plug in and it's going to work really,
really slowly right now because my computer is fighting for its
life which. Which one?
It's the texture labs distresser.
It's just saved me a lot of time when I'm doing like mass super
deep fried edits. Like I really want everything to
be scan esque. So it's just, I don't know, it's
really helpful and it's really customizable when your computer
isn't fighting for its life. But I I really quite enjoy it.
I think it was like 40 bucks. How much is it?
40 US. Yeah, OK, I'll try it.
Yeah, it's I'm not normally one for like shortcuts and and
stuff, but I, I really like them.
I think they, I think the stuff that they do is very tasteful
and cool, so. So I feel like with like with
Bracken stuff and I even like texture lab stuff like these
have always been like really high, highly high producing
quality places. It almost doesn't feel in my
mind sometimes. It's like shortcuts.
It's like these people are have come up with just like a way to
provide me the the sliders necessary to do the thing that I
want. Definitely it gives me.
It gives me that sort of that control.
And like it's, it's still done really well.
Like it doesn't look like a plug in.
I think that's like one thing I, I really don't like, like things
that are too easy to slap and apply to something I'm more
skeptical of. Like I want to be able to have
like as many controls as possible, but still like be able
to save some time with stuff just like that.
From what you've said, it's going to blow your computer up,
so it definitely isn't necessarily a quick slap.
And. Yeah, because this is an actual
plugin like I have. If people looking at home I have
one plugin 1, 1. Plugin. 1.
Geeked out 20 Geeked out. Geek.
I'm done. I just finished, so I think I'm
done. I'm so proud of this.
I came together somehow. I actually can't believe it.
This is sick. I cooked.
Nice, we cooked.
Fuck yeah. OK, I actually really fucking
like this. I'm going to start recording.
I'm done. I'm locked in.
I'm so happy with this. I can't believe it when I tell
you I was looking, it was, it was looking desperate.
At one point it was looking genuinely desperate.
I'm excited to see the footage. It's a lot of like like find the
part where you guys were chatting and I was just sitting
here going like it's just seeing the future and seeing like a
million possible futures and only one of them.
There's a way that this decide turns out well.
That would be a funny real. The math overlay.
Yeah, just like looking at design and seeing the one, the
one future where it looks good and knowing that you have to,
you have to go that way. It's the the saxophone getting
louder. I haven't understood that trend,
but I do recognise that it is around.
Saxophone getting louder. See whole of the world out
there, it's like like something getting worse, like video
footage of something getting worse, like digging yourself
into a deeper hole. But it's like, as the saxophone
gets louder, I think that's what it is.
Right. Could be wrong.
All right, well, I'm good to share how you feeling.
Yeah, I'm ready. All right, well, let's let's
call it there everyone, your 45 minutes, your clean 45 minutes
has ended. And if you if you made something
along with us today, even if it was related to this, even if it
wasn't, feel free to Chuck it up on our Patreon.
We've got a group chat over there for all members, free and
paid, where you can submit it. We can have a look at it there.
See it showed amongst the fine Kelly community or Chuck it up
on Instagram using hashtag Kelly.
It said so and make sure to tag us so we can see so you could be
in the running to be our Kelly said so of the week.
How is that pretty clean right? Very well done.
Thanks guys. Let's head on over to Figma and
reveal our designs. See you there.
Shall we reveal what we have? Made yes.
Here in this fig jam, who would like to go first?
I want to see yours. I'll go first.
Genuinely. It's just behind this orange
box. Here is my design.
Oh my God. I'm so happy with this fucking
poster. OK, so many things I want to
address. First of all, stylistically
insanely cohesive. Right, that's what I was like,
like when I tell you like if you watch back me designing, there
is a moment where it's the none of it works together.
And that's when I said I I put a lot of trust in super Rizzo
today. That's when.
Did we both use that this entire episode?
Oh, probably I. Imagine yeah, I it's so good.
It just it just put everything together well because the
colours were very helpful. I appreciated that the Blazers
mascot is also like a white, red and black palette, so there was
only. I was thinking that same thing.
Yeah, I was thinking. But the hands are like from just
a random image of like some guy, a businessman holding like a
glowing orb. And it just, I was like, they're
not going to look, it's not going to work.
And then I just changed the colour to blue and I was like,
Oh my God, they look like his hands.
It really makes it uncanny. Yeah, like the the fact that
what's his name? J.
Wiz G Wiz that he's like furry puppet material, but he has like
flesh hands. Yes, yes, I play.
That's really quite unsettling. It was hard to find furry hands.
I imagine. So the the doing that pose
specifically. So I was like this should.
Does he have fingers or does he have like mitts?
I think he has mitts. I think he's got two big like,
like kind of like this kind of weird 03 fingers, I think.
I think, yeah, I'm going to see his hands.
OK, wow, and where'd you get the idea for the orb?
What made you think to put Blaze in an orb?
Wizards like trapping them in an orb?
I think that's like how. You wait, I'm an idiot.
Why didn't I? I didn't realize that.
Wizard's Thing. Sorry, I forget they don't lean
into the wizard thing at all. But I think it's I use the old
logo here. They they, they, they lean into
the monument. They don't lean into the wizard.
Such a shame. Yeah, I think it's because
genuinely, because if they leaned more into the wizard
thing, they would look more like the magic.
Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of like a it's a
shame. It's crazy that we have Wizards
in the magic. It's a shame that it's even
magic. The magic play into like
nostalgia if anything, like more so than magic itself.
Like they're, so they're just like, it's like a fun.
They just get the stars and they feel.
Like the? Wizards would benefit so much.
Like the Wizards could really become like a very whimsical
ass. Yeah, Wizards are like casting
spells. Magic's like doing tricks like,
they're very, they're very different.
Energy, it's like a just a clown situation.
Yeah, more orb. Yeah.
So yeah, this is my work. I love it so much.
I'm so happy. This is incredible, thank you.
Dear God. It looks like one of those worms
that you have like on your finger. 100%.
I loved those as a kid, yeah. I truly don't know where this
would have been without super reserve.
I think I would have died. I think I would have.
I think I would have opted to choose not to show my thing
because it was it was looking desperate, but.
Super. I really like how distorted
Blaze is. Like Blaze looks like he's just
like been like shrunk down like really like hello.
A lot of them got washed out in the in the thing, but the color
range thing that I was doing, it's a shame.
Looking back, I would have made him probably a bit bigger and
like really like smushed against it and maybe with some like
hands going like instead I think and.
Then you would have to find another set of furry hands.
Oh, I know it's too much like just the the way that like it
fades, like I put a little half tone thing over it.
The way that you can like fade out stuff with the half then is
my favorite thing. That's why I like down here.
I kind of fucked up because I it was just like a kind of sharp
edge and I was like, fuck it, I'll just do like a general
eraser. I did it the same at the head
here. It's still kind of.
Looks though it's. Kind of a bit of a shop a shop
hit not the red looks so good. Yeah.
Fuck, there's some good data like.
It kind of reminds me of some of the details.
I'm going to drop it in here. Some of the details in this.
Hi George, A cover that some flop did.
Of course. You know, a really low res Paul
Kelly. Yeah, if only.
The idea is working. File.
I don't even know where it is. I go to.
I do like a sharp edge. Yeah, it's like a a sharp edge
mixed with like this was a mistake.
Wow. Because it was supposed to be a
circle. George.
George is trying to worm under the mic stand to get on my lap.
Come on. But yeah, things like that were
a mistake. Yeah, they weren't supposed to
look like that. Happy little accidents.
Yeah, one time I got cooked by this bald guy on Sorry, making
fun of bald people. There are some nice bald people,
but this guy on TikTok pissed me off.
He's like that color theory guy who would like, talk about why
some color palettes didn't work. And so he used this album color
as an example of why you can't have off white and white in the
same thing. And it pissed me off so bad
because I love using off white and white in the same project.
And I was like, of course, this is the example that I was like,
what do you say? Fuck me for?
Like, what? What do I do?
I'm cool as hell. But yeah, it was just so a
similar vibe with the I think this was like the free half tone
brushes, like the Kyle Webster half tone brushes.
But I like that it's like the fade out with the.
Yeah, it's a real nice. With the harsh edge edge.
I think it looks really nice. Yeah, it looks very like
handmade in a sense. Like old, like Xerox.
Yeah. Design.
You know how it used to. Goodbye, G Wiz.
All right, let me see yours. Mine's not funny.
Never had to be. Thanks.
Oh, great. Fantastic.
A very. I do.
I know what you mean when you said Michael Connie.
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.
Wow. Classic, classic kill.
Yeah. Thank you.
Gorgeous colors the but the pallets really do line up.
Yeah, I had to omit the the blue because it was just, it was
standing out too much. And I don't think you lose that
much by making it kind of like that.
Same, I also didn't want to just do black either.
Like, I kind of like that it's kind of a greenish.
Yeah, I love that color. That's such a nice shed.
It just works so well with red. Yeah.
So. Gorgeous effects.
Thank you Dame, especially his tats.
Really, Dame came out really, really good.
His face came out really nicely. I could not get Alex's face to
look better. Unfortunately because of the
photo I had, it was too low res. Dame just has a lot of really
high res pictures and I wanted a Dame Time 1 and they just happen
to like kind of nest in one another.
I love doing stuff like this where like they can kind of like
come out of one another, especially with like people
silhouettes because they can just take up so much vertical
space. So it's hard to sometimes get
them to take up, you know, enough space in like a poster
format. So I almost mentioned an NDA
project. Oh, never mind.
It's good as well if you did the you did Dame signature move the
Dame time and then Alex sighs signature move, which is taking
an extra dribble and he should just shoot it.
So that's. Is personal.
I'm kidding, personal. I'm kidding.
I love this. Damn.
I have a feeling you're not, but that's OK.
No, I, I, I feel. Like as a wizard fan, you can be
angry. I don't think that's what his
issue is. I think his issue is confidence
and like most young Wizards players.
And here you are. Confidently speaking on it.
Captain Confidence, Captain confidence.
This is great. I love this.
I think this is so like, like like a really nice print out,
really nice like poster on the wall kind of thing.
Thank you. Yeah, whereas mine's more of a
viral hit for the, for the, for the, for the Instagram.
Yours is just insane and I love that and that's what, but that's
what people come to us for. Fuck it all, look at this.
If this if this isn't the two genders, I don't know what is.
He's going to make the Instagram page, I think.
I think we're going to get these.
Yeah, I agree. We put some.
Good times. I really appreciate Elliot your
your footer head but that feels very.
That's a classic, Elliot. An early 2000s era MBA.
Checking in the yeah, yeah, you got to do it.
I was like, I originally had the Blazers logo in there as well
and I was like no, this, this is on the Wizards page.
Why would they include the Blazers logo then I was like,
why include the NBA logo? That's.
Just nice and neutral. Yeah, mine.
I just chose a better photo of Dame.
That was my bias. I'm going to send this to the
Wizards page and be like, hey, if you ever, if you ever want to
post something during the Blazers game, like let me know.
I'd love. Or you could put any team's
mascot in there. That's so true.
That is very true. Like well, I don't know if I can
go back into the working file. I don't know if I could recreate
what I've done, but I. Think you can?
I think I probably. Could you just we, we create a
new Instagram page this this, but every single Wizards game we
change the map, we just post it for every.
Game oh do it to players you could put players in there as
well go on like. It could, yeah.
It's like the Grim Reaper thing of knocking on the doors of like
who is next in my orb. Yeah, Orb time.
Well, what a great good to have an episode.
We did. We did well.
We did very well.
We did the damn thing. We actually did it, I told.
I said at the start I was going to cook today.
I said I'm not going to let myself.
You have like a you went on a roller coaster.
Oh, there was a moment. Oh, let me tell you, I love.
This. I hate this.
I love this. I hate this.
Oh my God, there was a moment. But you know, with, with, with
perseverance, passion and drive, you can do anything.
And I think we, we, we proved that today.
So. Like in last week's episode, I
was like, I think I'm going to start over.
And then I didn't. I persevered.
Yeah, yeah. You got to work through it.
I don't even know what I would have done.
And I think it's this is like my favorite.
It's like when I used to do Design Chef.
It's that same feeling of looking at something and going,
oh God, oh God. And if you just keep going,
those last 15 minutes will be magic.
You just got to get to those last 15 minutes and everything
will come together. Yeah.
If you give up too early, what's the point?
Shall we wrap this thing up, Michelle?
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Do you have a song of the week for us, Kel?
Always toss it to me and I. Can do it.
I can do it. I've got, I've got ready, ready,
ready. I'm ready, ready.
I have a song of the week. I am going to say my song of the
week is Let's Do, Let's do Are You Lonesome Like Me by The
Feminine Complex. I found this song the other day
and it goes crazy. I think it's an old song that's
been remastered. It says it was released in 2020,
but I don't think it was. I think it was released like the
70s. And it's a gorgeous, gorgeous
song by the Feminine Complex. It's real cool, cool, cool album
art too. Look it up.
What's yours? You got a song?
My voice is so weak right now. God.
Mine is lost my head by the 1975.
Nice. Thank you.
Lost my head. I made a really demented Taylor
1975 playlist with the mix feature, so I mixed all of them
to fade into the next OH. Yeah.
I'm a DJ as all as that's all I'm going to say.
Wow, brave enough to say it. Usually people really sorry
about. That I'm and I call the playlist
torture because it's, it's a, it's an if you know, you know,
but it's, it's torture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's really good. Sounds awful.
Sounds fucking awful, yeah, not gonna lie.
Sounds like torture. It's, it's very special to me.
I was listening to it today when I was driving around and I was
like, I'm kind of a genius, so. We might be cooking.
Just be lucky that I'm sticking to graphic design because I
don't think my computer could run a music program.
So count your lucky stars. If you've got an Apple device,
you've got a garage band. True, true and Matt had logic so
I could do that. So anyway.
Font of the wig. I have a font of the week.
Actually, it's a sorry, I'm reopening Photoshop.
I want to make sure I have the title right.
Come on. Come on.
My stomach just rumbled like crazy.
I don't even have for lunch. Nothing.
There's nothing here. You're out of re cooked meals.
I'm out of ready. I'm out of my muscle chef.
I should have not. I'm gonna go get him my muscle
chef and the chocolate milk. OK, my font of the week.
Oops. My font of the week is it's
called College but it's a collegiate like varsity sans
serif and there's a lot out there in the world.
I'm fairly picky but I would say this is in the same vibe as like
Ogden. Ogden's like a classic
collegiate sans serif, but I found this one recently, I think
on the font, but I've been using it a lot, doing my little trick
where I'm like using octen and then I'll swap a couple letters
out with like it's cousin. And I've been swapping it out
too. It's just called College.
Not really helpful at all. But yeah, it's a.
It's a good little font, a little font.
Nice you have the whole family at the table I guess, and on the
post if you're including cousins and all that.
Oh yeah. Let's, Kelly had said.
So this week I've got one up here that I particularly liked
from. I would like to see.
From translation, it is this one here by pH Finacimento dot art
podcast Movement. Am I pronouncing that right?
I probably butchered that, am I right?
That's what they always say, but I reckon I nailed that.
This is by Finacimento Art and this looks so good.
Let's see translation here see this works challenge of a design
podcast. Let's do the personal was make
an art using preset images of phrase in 45 minutes Fuck yeah
and the Adobe 5 flash shut the fuck up.
And what I like about this we've actually got like the we've got
the assets on display so we can see how they've come together
and I think that's pretty awesome Yeah so sick with the I.
Really like the fairies on the butt.
Yeah, that's really cool. And the like keeping with the
same font, like keeping with the same style.
I really like as I'm doing the big like the big letter with the
a that's so-called the drop count.
What? Is that we've talked about that
font before it. Looks familiar.
The design up top too is a is like an Adobe Photoshop Ignea.
Oh yeah. I didn't even notice that.
Oh, very cool. What is it on the average?
Oh, it's completely different. A nudity.
Get that that notice you off my screen.
Well this is fantastic then. This is incredible.
I want a print out of what this diva is carrying, like of that
poster. They're bringing me a print out
of that Incredible work. Unreal stuff.
Incredible work, so good and so fast too.
This was up like. A Felipe.
Yeah, yesterday it was immediately.
Yeah, really, really quick stuff.
Locked in. Locked in good stuff, good
stuff. Make sure to upload your designs
using hashtag Kelly. It said so so we can see and
give us A tag as well. We'll so we'll actually see it
because the hashtag is unreliable because you can't
sort by recent anymore. Fun fact about the business of
all of all this. And we haven't set hard
parameters on what qualifies for it, because why?
Why exactly? Ever changing?
Ever changing. Oh, great episode, good stuff.
Truly, truly, I hope you guys enjoyed this.
May one of our teams win in this game.
Yes, 'cause he can't. I Blazers in five.
Wizards in six winning in Portland 'cause we would have
homecourt advantage as we would be the number one.
Wizards win the play in game. That's one of the more
realistics is the ninth verse, ninth verse, tenth seed.
Actually, they'll never get diverse each other the plan
because they're different conferences.
It's tragic. The only way the Wizards and
Blazers could meet in a playoff series in the Finals.
Think about that, everyone. Think about what that means for
our legacies. It's a long way off.
It's perfect, too, because like, what if we both liked like
Eastern Conference or Western Conference teams that can do
this? No, and in the age of Victor
Wenyama, it would take him being traded to Portland to make this
a reality, as I don't think anyone's been in the Spurs for a
long time. Not gonna lie.
Never seen the. OKC Tik Tokers who are about to.
They could bring Giannis to the Blazers and he could reunite
with Dame because it went really well the last time.
Yes, that sounds great. And Kyle Kuzma bring everyone
along. We'll see you guys next week.
Have a good one everyone. Bye.