1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,360 It's just funny to see you like amongst grey stuff because it 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,680 just doesn't. It. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,760 Just doesn't feel like you, feel like you're. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,960 That's not you. You're even a hospital bed or 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,480 something I feel like. Look like you're in a hospital 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,640 bed. Reporting, like anything for 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,680 Kelly. Where's the cobalt blue shelf? 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,160 I know, I know. Where's? 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,040 The plan Where's the random orange? 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Where's your basketball? Where's the life behind my eyes? 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Zest. Exactly. 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,480 And even even if I can't bring the colour into my my 13 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:37,000 background, you'd hope I'd be able to bring it in my my, my 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,360 tone or my my, my character, my energy. 15 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,800 Not today either. I'm I'm I'm existing in the grey 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,840 today. It's because I'm doing a show 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,240 everyone, because I'm doing. Did you? 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,680 Know he's doing a bunch of shows. 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,680 You know, I'm doing 20 shows. I feel like not enough people 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,120 know still. I feel like still people go, 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,280 you're doing a show. And I'm like, really, I, I post 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,160 so much, I'm trying to post so much about it. 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,200 And I think it's just going to my fans in Brazil. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,280 I think it's going nowhere else well. 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,760 That's what you get for not going to Brazil. 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Yeah, I know. Brazil, Argentina, New Jersey. 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,840 It's a real like. The Big Three. 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,800 It's hard, it's really Hard Out Here to, to tell people 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,000 specifically in Melbourne that I'm here doing a show. 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,000 And also then there's the second, this is the worst part 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,320 Kel, There's the second layer to it. 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,320 Not only do I have to, to let people in Melbourne know that 33 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:36,000 I'm doing a show, it's that there's that show is not a book 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,960 signing, it's just called book signing. 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,960 So there's 2 levels that we're working with and I've learned a 36 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:43,920 lot and I changed. The name of place. 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,640 I did this is all my doing months ago. 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,240 I thought this would be so funny and then I changed the name of 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,520 It's Funny. It's not smart though, and I 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 just changed the name of my Sydney Comedy Fest show in 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,080 mid-May to Intimate Design, which is the name of the book, 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,000 because I think that's a better. I think that's easier to 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,479 understand than. Book signing is like, that's a 44 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:13,000 very high level name like. Yeah, yeah. 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,760 That's not not to dumb it down, but like it's such like an elite 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,640 name that I fear just the average person who might not be 47 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:25,800 familiar with you would understand. 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,200 Oh, that's actually really funny. 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,120 Yes. They're like books. 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Book signing. This is a comedy show. 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Exactly even. Though I think it's a good name 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,880 5. Years from now, yeah, it's it's 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,440 hard to get the idea. It's like, no, it's I think it 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,880 what makes it hot is there are actual book signings during this 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Comedy Festival by very established comedians. 56 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,080 And I'm just coming out here doing a show called Books. 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,040 But they'll it's like signing that always gets a laugh 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,680 revealing, revealing that fucking I've I pull it out and I 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,080 go and it's amazing. It's beautiful hardcover and I 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,200 slowly rotate it. So you see Molly Baz that on the 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,480 back. It's just a photo of some 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:09,760 meatballs and it's something every, I think like 2 nights if 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,800 I've had someone ask what does the book have anything to do 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,320 with those meatballs that are on the back of it and what 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,760 happened? Every time I read the book, I 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,680 put it back in the box that it came. 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,400 I tape the box back up. So I unbox it and I'll read a 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,040 chapter. I'll put it away and I'll tape 69 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,400 it back up. So if anyone asks about the back 70 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 cover, I'm like, we actually can't check because it's in the 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,160 box, but we'll have a look next time. 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,080 I don't know what you're talking. 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,560 About, yeah, don't think so. I'm like, it's a sample, sure. 74 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,720 I'm a graphic designer so I don't see why. 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Inside the cover. There would be meatballs. 76 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,800 You're you must be thinking of someone else. 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:52,960 Yeah, it's a very, they're very confused, but but it's really. 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Confusing. Yes, it's a lot of fun. 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,320 It's a lot of fun. It's just, it's just so I really 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,520 like have no energy the entire day up until about two minutes 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,920 before I go on stage, which is when I put the bold cap on. 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:14,760 I stare at myself in the mirror doing that and then push ups, 83 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:22,000 shadowboxing and then I do it and I go give it everything I 84 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,120 have, everything that I have. Then I get home and it's like it 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,560 never even happened and we do it again. 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,000 I only have Wednesday off until next Sunday and today's Friday. 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,720 But this is such a fun experience. 88 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,640 It is a fun experience. It's like you're kind of like in 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,320 boot camp. Yeah, yeah. 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,160 So you're just really running essentially really intense 91 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,160 drills. I brought my camera. 92 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,960 I was going to film a YouTube video down here. 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,920 I brought like so much stuff to do normal things. 94 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Not no way. I can't do it. 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,000 I could have seen that coming. It's annoying because it's see 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,520 already my voice is on hello. It's annoying because the 97 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,640 Ritalin dries out my mouth which makes it really hard to perform. 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,280 So I'm not taking any meds while I'm here. 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Oh, and that just means I'm like this old dad, like. 100 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,240 OK, it's like whenever you're in situations like that, you're 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,720 like, fuck, I do need my. Meds yeah, it really makes you 102 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,560 go huh, how am I unable to do anything today and it's like oh 103 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,680 I. Just live like this. 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,320 Exhausted. Yeah. 105 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,920 I'm like, kind of even. I also just found out like some 106 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,400 other comedians that I know are like kind of staying in the same 107 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,880 building as I am. Oh. 108 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,320 Maybe just we've. Never chatted before. 109 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,720 So I'm just like trying to avoid them because I'm awkward like 110 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 that. And now I'm like, don't want, I 111 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,000 don't want to go to the gym in the building or like the cafe 112 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,000 attached to the building or anything because I'm like, I 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,920 might have an awkward conversation and that's not the 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,920 right way to live. That's not the right way to 115 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,400 live. This sounds all self-imposed, 116 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,040 I'm sorry. It's fair. 117 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,760 It's very valid, yeah, But thanks to everyone who's come to 118 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,520 the show so far. I wish I could see it, 119 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,720 genuinely. I'm sorry, I can't even record 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,880 this one. It wouldn't even be. 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,280 It would be. It doesn't make it needs to be 122 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:17,520 in person. It really requires this one. 123 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,760 I believe that. OK, to be filmed Yeah. 124 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,160 How many wishes I uploaded graphic design live with the 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,400 crowd might have made it easier for people to understand my type 126 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,360 of the. Payoff was so good though. 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Yeah, I think it was worth it. I think it was worth it. 128 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,000 I might just, I might just take. I'm going to ask for the the 129 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,120 crowd version so I can make clips out of it to make it. 130 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,200 I think that would be a good idea. 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,800 Yeah. The Elliot's version. 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,480 Yeah, make ads out of it, you know? 133 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,040 Yeah, I think that's a good idea. 134 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Because right now it's not really working as an ad. 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,200 People are very confused. We're very confused on it again. 136 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,200 You're thinking too high level, OK, like not everyone is. 137 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,240 They'll understand is up there. They'll get, they'll get it 138 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,240 eventually, They'll get it eventually. 139 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,640 How are you doing? I'm chilling. 140 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:16,080 I've got my sorry, one of my many necklaces I have. 141 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,520 I have to wear this fucking heart monitor for a month. 142 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,080 A month. That's wild. 143 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,760 That is wild. A month. 144 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,480 I have a car key taped to my chest for a month. 145 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,560 It really does look like a car key. 146 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,040 It looks like a car key. Strap that you would like. 147 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,840 And it's because it's the, it has like a little, there's the 148 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,680 sticky thing that's like, the sticky thing is like 6 inches 149 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,440 long, but it has to go right below. 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,240 Like, you know, like where your collarbone starts, it's like an 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,920 inch below that. And then it just goes down your 152 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,280 chest. And it's, I don't know, it's 153 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,720 like I, it talks to a phone. I have a phone. 154 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,560 They sent me another phone. Oh my God, what phone is that? 155 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,200 Out of curiosity, I don't even know doctor phone so it just 156 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,320 says monitoring. Doctor Phone? 157 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,040 That's an Android. Interesting. 158 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Yes, it is an Android. I opened this box for my doctor 159 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,680 and there's a phone inside and I was like, wasn't anticipating 160 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,360 that you. Need to keep that thing charged, 161 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,240 yeah. Yeah, I have to keep this 162 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,200 charged. And then the thing on my chest, 163 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,240 I have to undock it. Oh my God. 164 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,760 Then I have to charge it. I was going to say, I'm like, 165 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,880 does it? Is it just like? 166 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:34,280 So it's not actually monitoring you at all times because you 167 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,480 have to charge it. But do you do you swap it out 168 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:43,080 with a charged? One, the some of the kits come 169 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,120 with two again, this was prescribed by my doctor. 170 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,120 I got DMS asking they're like, where did you get this from? 171 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,520 And I was like my doctor. They're like, oh, I thought you 172 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,280 got it online. And I was like. 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,680 I'm doing this myself. I'm tracking it myself. 174 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Yeah, and I was like, first of all, this is probably like I've 175 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,520 I read other people paid like 2 grand for this monitoring and 176 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,200 I'm like, thank God my insurance is covering this fully. 177 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:13,240 But yeah, some hacks come with like a second monitor so you can 178 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,200 kind of always rotate them out my game with 1. 179 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:23,240 So I will have a couple gaps in my monitoring because it takes 180 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:28,040 about an hour to charge but it's 24 hours a day. 181 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,240 Like you shower with it, you don't unplug it to shower. 182 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,640 So that feels really wrong to shower. 183 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,320 And this morning I was like, because like this morning was 184 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,520 the 1st morning I showered with it on me because I showered 185 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,280 yesterday morning before I put it on. 186 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,480 And then like I, I was telling Matt, I was like, it feels 187 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,960 really wrong to get in the shower with like an electronic 188 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,600 device. Yeah, I feel. 189 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Like I was. And then you reminded me, I 190 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,200 bring my phone in the shower. Every single time I shower I'm 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,720 dropping my phone just it's hitting the bottom of the shower 192 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,320 straight under the stream of water. 193 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Like my my phone is constantly getting submerged. 194 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,680 It's water resistant. I'm testing the outer limits of 195 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,600 the water resistance with my phone. 196 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,880 But I was like, well, this also feels like I don't feel bad 197 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,600 about my phone getting wet. This I feel bad about getting 198 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,760 wet because it feels like it's very serious and stuff. 199 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,400 So yeah, it beeps randomly. If it beeps, that's out of my 200 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,840 hands. Yeah, it just constantly sends 201 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:42,520 data to my doctor, which is fun. So I'm like, so it knows kind of 202 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,760 everything that I do, which is kind of odd. 203 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,480 So and also the other thing, it doesn't give me any live data. 204 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,920 OK. It doesn't even like show it 205 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,640 kept in the dark. Here's what you're up to. 206 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,960 I can't even you can generate. I get nothing. 207 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,920 It just says monitoring. There's a way to get There's a 208 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,360 way to turn that phone into a regular phone. 209 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,480 It has 4G. Yeah, I reckon. 210 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,520 You but I can't even leave the app it's like always just in 211 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,120 this there's. Always a way I'm. 212 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Sure you can think. Yeah, it's like those screens 213 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,160 that like restaurants that have like order the, the the way you 214 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,240 order it on the touchscreen, It's all just an Android phone. 215 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,520 You can jailbreak all of it. I bet it's always. 216 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,360 I bet you can. Typical guy who worked at a 217 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,080 phone store. Oh. 218 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Yeah, I love that shit. I'm actually so I love trying to 219 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:35,960 breaking AI chat bots and breaking physical giant touch 220 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,560 locked touch screens is a yeah. It's a good hobby to do that I'm 221 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,800 not very good at, but I do like thinking about it. 222 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,400 It's a hobby, I'm not good at it, but. 223 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,320 It's a hobby that I can't do, but I'm passionate about it. 224 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Yeah, I have. A lot of respect for it. 225 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Maybe you could jailbreak the monitor itself. 226 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,880 You've hit false, Yeah. Give me the data. 227 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,480 Tell me what you're sending. What else could you use it for? 228 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,880 Like, what is it? Yeah, it could be used, probably 229 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,800 could be used for other things. Maybe you could start your own 230 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,520 service, your own practice. Yeah, maybe you could use it for 231 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,040 that reason. It'll be fine. 232 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Take it on Twitter. So yeah, I don't know how this 233 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,800 thing is going to like I got four of the sticky things and I 234 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,200 can only replace them when they're like literally about to 235 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,720 fall off. And the monitor will tell me 236 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,000 once the contact of like the sensor that's in it is like 237 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,560 like, I guess I kind of like starting to lose contact as the 238 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:41,760 adhesive is breaking down. So that's the only time I can do 239 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880 it. And then you have to remove it 240 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:51,200 in the shower. So yeah, I'm really excited. 241 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,280 It's just a long time. I, my mom did it when she was 242 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,200 like younger and she was like, oh, I only have to do it for 24 243 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,640 hours. And I was like, oh. 244 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,920 It's a month now, Yeah, 24 hours. 245 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,360 I feel like you, you wouldn't get much. 246 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,840 You wouldn't get much from that. That's what I'm saying. 247 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,960 Yeah, the full month makes a lot more sense. 248 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,880 I've had like recorded arrhythmias before. 249 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,680 They're trying to figure out why my heart is being weird. 250 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,920 There's something wrong with my heart right now, but I was born 251 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,600 with a heart. I have a heart defect that I was 252 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,640 born with and it's it's like a hole between two of my. 253 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Atrium aortas. A it's, you know, chambers, 254 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,680 they're between the chambers. It's a patent frame in a valley. 255 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,920 So it's essentially like a valve that's supposed to close when 256 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,600 you're a baby, like when you're born, it's supposed to close. 257 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:58,120 And then mine just stayed open. And it causes like heart murmurs 258 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,240 when you're a kid. And then mine closed eventually, 259 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,800 and then it opened again. So it just increases your risk 260 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:15,200 of stroke because there's like your heart's not working 261 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,000 properly, essentially. So it increases your stroke 262 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,320 risk. I have a clotting disorder so 263 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,240 that also puts me at an increased risk of stroke, and 264 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,680 there's also a very weird connection between the heart 265 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,640 issue and migraine and they don't know why so. 266 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Talk to each. Other yeah, so I got to do this 267 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,960 in a bunch of other scans and I have to do like an echo and a 268 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,440 couple Ekgs and some blood work and figure out why I'm I'm 269 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,920 having arrhythmias because I don't they're concerned about it 270 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,080 and I swear to God, if they say it's my Ritalin, I'm going. 271 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,280 To oh God. Don't take away from me. 272 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,840 You have to. You have to stop your 273 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,040 medication. I'll be like Matt, Matt. 274 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,200 Get me a new heart. I don't know. 275 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,880 Yeah, I'd rather work than live. Yeah, I don't know if you know 276 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,120 this. I have a job. 277 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,680 Yeah. I have to work. 278 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,960 So yeah, yeah. So that is, that's what I'm up 279 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,080 to. Yeah, yeah. 280 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:31,960 Yeah, hilarious side quest of mine, but also worth noting, per 281 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Jared's no in our run sheet, yes, my post went triple 282 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,120 platinum on Instagram. Thank you. 283 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Very, very exciting. Thank you. 284 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,840 It's the first time it's happened to me, so it's, you 285 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,000 know, a huge is. It is it the first time? 286 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,080 Yeah, yes. Wow. 287 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,760 Yes, I think the most I've ever gotten before was around 20K. 288 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,480 Can you see how I built an entire Korea out of making 289 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:08,680 posters with snacky text? It's people like it, they eat it 290 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,520 up, they really. Really do though? 291 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,680 Yep. Yeah, you can. 292 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Really. You can really do the whole 293 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,480 thing. It's crazy. 294 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Yeah, it's awesome. So if you enjoyed that by the 295 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,680 time you see this, I was a couple weeks ago, but I am 296 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,800 working on adding these to my print shop. 297 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:38,520 So make sure you're following me slash Killian on Instagram, yes, 298 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,760 so I can have real. Look at that. 299 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,640 This is just a sample I printed so. 300 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,560 Looks like such. Good. 301 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Yeah, it's a 13 by 19 print and it has a really nice texture to 302 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,400 it because I wanted to make sure it had like the grit that's on 303 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,520 the post and not just have it be a clean, flat print. 304 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,200 Like, I want it to look a little distressed, but not in a tacky 305 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,200 way, you know? Yeah, and the geek is. 306 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,760 On it, Geek, dork and diva. They live on Geek. 307 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Dork and doubt. There was a lot of love for the 308 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,720 exclamation mark above the diva. So glad people enjoyed that to 309 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,640 the degree that I did. I also love that the diva is, 310 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,680 I'm now realizing, is one with the chair. 311 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,400 Yeah, she is. She has one with the chair. 312 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,680 She's one of the chair. It's kind of awesome. 313 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,160 Yeah, I like to think that's a little thoughts on her. 314 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,120 She's like sweating. She's really sweating. 315 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,160 Due to the exclamation mark appearing. 316 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,960 But yeah I I really like how this print came out. 317 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,520 I had the thought of spray painting a couple of these so it 318 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,720 has a light gradient. Which? 319 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,320 I've done previously but I would have to do it after I print them 320 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,280 because I am not putting spray painted paper through my 321 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,680 printer. Would you, would you do like you 322 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,040 release 50, say, and then one of them is a shiny and you don't 323 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,000 know if you're gonna get the shiny one or not, but someone 324 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,520 gets a shiny version, You know what I mean? 325 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,360 The Pokémon, the hollow version brain, the Pokémon brain guys, 326 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,120 it is affecting more people. It is. 327 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,640 It is affecting more people than you think I love. 328 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,520 That idea, it's cool, right? Shiny poster I'm going to do I 329 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,720 think I might steal that. I'm going to one of you will get 330 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,200 a shiny. Like a glossy 1. 331 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,560 No, like like the well shiny is in like it's a different colour 332 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,640 way or something. Like something unique about it 333 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,680 that you don't. You wouldn't that. 334 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,000 I assumed you literally meant something shiny. 335 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,720 No, Yeah, more of like a like a secret rare. 336 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,160 Like a special edition type of thing. 337 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,680 Yes, yes, yes. And you don't put up any photos 338 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,520 of what it is. You just write in the 339 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,640 description. One person will receive a shiny 340 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,000 edition and it's completely random. 341 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:59,680 And then it becomes like a collector's item. 342 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,320 What are we doing today? We're going to play run on 343 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,720 little website that people love so much and only good things 344 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:32,720 ever come from. But I like to think Reddit has 345 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,600 more use in this world than artificial intelligence. 346 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:41,040 Everybody's like, oh, I'll just ask Claude, I'll ask ChatGPT 347 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,280 guys, whatever you're searching, whatever you're asking a chat 348 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,560 bot, just type it into Google. Remember her Google and then hit 349 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,320 special word. This is the keyword. 350 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Everyone's asking like what prompt? 351 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,760 What's what did you what prompt did you use for this? 352 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:01,960 But the prompt you're looking for here is the word Reddit. 353 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,280 OK, start that at the end of your search. 354 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,880 It's just it'll it'll get you the best answer. 355 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,360 OK, I guarantee you whatever you're looking for, someone else 356 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:15,280 has already experienced it because nobody has a unique 357 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,880 experience ever. It's kind of having your 358 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,920 resurgence in a way of Reddit because of that. 359 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,400 Exactly. I think people are understanding 360 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,360 the importance of forum boards. And I think Reddit was Reddit 361 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:29,360 got a bad name because well, fair enough. 362 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:33,040 I think it's it's. They got a bad name, and for 363 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,400 good reason. For a good reason. 364 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,080 There are some communities that you're like, what the fuck is 365 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,000 this, but. Some of those people moved over 366 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000 to other platforms. Yes, they went on the what 367 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,560 telegram? Probably discard Telegram bowl. 368 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,560 So Telegram is a scary one, that one. 369 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,600 Whenever I find out how many people use, I think Telegram has 370 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,560 a billion users. Look it up. 371 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,200 Hey, hey, that's scary. Look. 372 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,640 It up. Telegram has 1 billion monthly 373 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,240 active users and that was. Launched. 374 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,440 How many? How many people use Signal in 375 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,320 comparison? Signal. 70 to 100. 376 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,040 Million. Why do sketchy people use 377 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,640 Telegram? 100 million only. 378 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,840 It was 100 million. A billion. 379 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,640 No, that's 1000, a thousand million, right. 380 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,680 Wait, so a billionaire has 1000 million dollars, People will be 381 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,000 like 1000 million dollars. That's how much a billion is 382 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,480 Yeah, Telegram is concerning how how I think it's quite 383 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:41,800 considering how popular it is, but I think it's mainly I don't 384 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,280 think it's like, yeah, there you go. 385 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,120 OK, India is the biggest country, India, Brazil, Mexico, 386 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:49,960 South Africa, Spain, Italy. Because I know it mainly as a 387 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,040 anonymous. Neo Nazi communications. 388 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Yes, yes, yes. But I think that. 389 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,400 I know it. I do think it is genuinely just 390 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,080 a popular like messenger. OK. 391 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,360 But I do know in at least Australia it has very negative 392 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:08,240 connotation. It has an unfavorable. 393 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:12,800 Yes, it's like all the the manosphere like group chats and 394 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,880 stuff on Telegram. Yeah. 395 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,320 It's kind of 1 billion though, is that's wild. 396 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,400 That's that's. So many. 397 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,000 Wild. Absolutely wild. 398 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:29,600 A many people. Yep, I just want to use it. 399 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,320 I mean, I don't I I. Hey guys, are you using Telegram 400 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,320 and what for? Yeah, because I'm genuinely 401 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,320 curious if it has that many users. 402 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,400 We'll get on it. Hey. 403 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,720 Guys, that many users. We'll make a community, we'll 404 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,600 make a Telegram chat. We can sell our shortcuts. 405 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Country. Hey guys, have you ever wanted a 406 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,000 worse version of discord? May I introduce you to Telegram? 407 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,680 Yeah, the, the, the best community will always be Patreon 408 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,560 group chats. That's the that. 409 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,000 Truly like that's my safe space. It is lovely on them, it is 410 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,320 absolutely. That's my safe space, so we're 411 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,160 going to go to my not safe space, but sometimes it is my 412 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,200 safe space. Reddit, we did this a while ago 413 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,240 and you guys really enjoyed it. Just like from when we were 414 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:24,440 pulling posts that we wanted to go over, there isn't energy 415 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,280 going on right now in the graphic design world on 416 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,880 subreddit. Wellbutrin, now Lexapro, now 417 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:42,080 calling a friend now. I'm worried about that. 418 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,720 So we've got a little bit of everything, a little bit of 419 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,640 everything here. So we're going to try to keep it 420 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,080 a little bit more positive. Definitely a very different 421 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,240 energy from when we did this like a year and a half ago. 422 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,080 Yes, it's come a long way. I would say it was. 423 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,840 It used to be the butt of a lot of jokes like our slash. 424 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,120 Gravity design is where gravity design goes to die because you 425 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,600 would just look at someone making a post and then the top 426 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000 comment would like, it'd just be like made this poster for fun. 427 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040 And the top comment would be like, what does this mean? 428 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,720 What purpose does this serve? This isn't gravity design. 429 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,200 Everyone called, Yeah, literally just talk, talk. 430 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,480 And like I, Jared's rubbing his head, being like, I have to 431 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,160 bleep that out. I have to bleep that out. 432 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,560 The woke police are here. It's dark humor, Jared. 433 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:38,520 It's literally just dark humor. And yeah, snowflake in the we've 434 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,520 had a snowflake in the cold. We. 435 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,880 Got a snowflake woke police. Ridiculous. 436 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,760 But now it's very much like there was a strong anti AI 437 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,320 sentiment, I think a cross Reddit in general, because like 438 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,000 you were saying how I think Reddit is becoming a generally 439 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,800 anti AI tool in that it is in, you know, human the the easiest 440 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,000 place to get a human response. So I think Reddit have kind of 441 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,520 proudly attached themselves to that Reddit users. 442 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:12,520 And even like when it comes to I saw a fuck ice shirt I saw in 443 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,720 the top yearly posts, I saw some general anti Trump stuff at the 444 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,480 top of the I'm like, OK, I just had thought it was always 445 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,120 conservative aligned but maybe I was wrong. 446 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,400 So it's it's it's turned around. It's kind of cool now. 447 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,120 But it's all right. So we're just going to have an 448 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,200 objective look at this. Yeah. 449 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,600 See what everyone's saying? So let's get into it. 450 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,880 Let's read some posts. Let's. 451 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,560 Go ahead. OK, this is our first post 452 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,120 everyone. This is the first post we've 453 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:43,760 we've gone. Jared has found one from Am I 454 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,880 the Asshole, which is AITA. This is a classic page. 455 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840 We've gone off our such graphics as under score design. 456 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,240 This is from four years ago. That's quite funny. 457 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,440 A whole election cycle. So this is the asshole for 458 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,160 refusing whole Olympic cycle for refusing to do graphic design 459 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:11,040 work for my mother? Hi, let me art and please I'll 460 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:13,720 read it now. I'll read it and we will decide 461 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,200 if this person is the asshole. Is that how this works? 462 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,360 Yes. Sorry I've never been on the 463 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:21,600 subreddit before. OK, guys. 464 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,360 It's his first day living. Yeah, I'm behind. 465 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:31,320 What is this website? OK I-17 F Enjoy making art and 466 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520 I'm going into stop motion animation in university. 467 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,880 My high school offers university. 468 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,880 This could be Australia or the UK potentially not college. 469 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,840 My high school. High school, definitely 470 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Australia. My high school offers an 471 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,360 internship that makes graphics, logo, T-shirt designs for 472 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,000 clients. I joined this internship and was 473 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,280 promoted to the position of art director so this is an 474 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,120 opportunity. My mother has been asking if I 475 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,520 could design logos and T-shirt designs for the different events 476 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,960 that she participates in. This is outside of the 477 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,640 internship and she asked me for designs because she doesn't have 478 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,600 the artistic vision that I do. This is the the first time she 479 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,920 asked for design. I was fine with doing it, but 480 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,160 she now frequently tells me that I have to make designs for 481 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,800 things she is a part of. She never asks if I want to 482 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,960 design A graphic. She tells whatever group that 483 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,400 she's in that I will make the design and then informs me 484 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,560 later. I have told her multiple times 485 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,800 very explicitly that I refuse to create more designs for her and 486 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,440 every time she gets very upset and expects me to make the 487 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,960 design anyway. She says that if I don't make a 488 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000 design, I'm not allowed to ask her any favour ever again. 489 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,240 Fucking hell. I've explained to her that if 490 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,240 she paid me, I would make the designs. 491 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,080 The internship is unpaid and I am in too many extracurriculars 492 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,320 to have a job during the school year. 493 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,200 But she was shocked and appalled that I would make my own mother 494 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,680 pay for my work. It's not like I have much free 495 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,000 time to make these designs. I'm enrolled in three AP classes 496 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 and I'm taking an extra 1 outside of school. 497 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,720 I also have been severe. I also have been several after 498 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,480 school activities and I'm the art director for the internship. 499 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,120 On top of this, I'm also applying to scholarships and 500 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,680 worrying about in college the college now. 501 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,040 All right, the time that I have to spend making these designs to 502 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,880 my mother is very valuable to me and I tried explaining that to 503 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,720 her. But now every time I'm watching 504 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,120 a television show or playing a video game, she will get upset 505 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,520 and say that I could be working on her designs instead. 506 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720 I thought I was in the right for being upset until I explained 507 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,600 my. This is. 508 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,520 Crazy who instantly sided with my mother. 509 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,520 They told me that the least I can do for my mother are these 510 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,600 simple favors and that she asked very little of me otherwise. 511 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,120 That she is just very proud of me and has given me 512 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,000 opportunities to expose my art to the world. 513 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,640 They both have done a lot for me, paying for my private art 514 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,040 lessons and allowing me to pursue a career in art, so I 515 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,960 genuinely don't know if my anger is justified. 516 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,920 And then there's some updates as well. 517 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,200 Generally. OK, I doubt anyone would read 518 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,840 this, but I talked to my mother after this post and we came to a 519 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440 consensus. I would be allowed to decline 520 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,320 any artwork that she asked for without complaint as long as I 521 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,280 genuinely took each ask into consideration. 522 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,920 I made her some art and declined some. 523 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800 I passed all my AP classes and got into my dream college. 524 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,960 Now that I'm in university, I have a lot more freedom and I 525 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840 think our relationship has been somewhat repaired from the 526 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,040 distance. Thank you for everybody 527 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880 commented. I remember being brought to 528 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,440 tears reading This is what means want to be the Nana Jesus. 529 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,240 Wow, this is. An American. 530 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,520 I guess potentially now I'm I'm I'm I I the the phrase. 531 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,880 Because there are some Americans who say university, and I think 532 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,080 it's weird. They think they just want to 533 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,360 sound like they're a part of the Commonwealth. 534 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,120 People. Yes, yes. 535 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,560 They say it to to be different because. 536 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,880 AP is very American, I feel. Yeah, AP is an American thing. 537 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Yeah, yeah. Well, this is fascinating. 538 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,440 This is fascinating. This is a world pretty. 539 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:50,760 What a what a solid mind of a 17 year old like the boundaries, 540 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,640 willing to have the boundaries is so bold. 541 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,760 I couldn't when I was 17. I'd be like, yes, mother. 542 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Yeah, of course. Yeah, I'd be like I'll. 543 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Do that, Yeah. I have no time. 544 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,880 I have no time or will to live, but I will do that for you. 545 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,160 Quiet is everything. Yes, especially if it's your 546 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,280 mother. Especially if it's your over 547 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,000 demanding mother. Wow. 548 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,080 This stems to a a larger issue, which is that thing of like 549 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,160 people thinking that it doesn't take much time. 550 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,120 People think the graphic sign if the the classic, the classic 551 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,240 situation where people go, oh, I don't know how to do it. 552 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,360 It looks so hard, but you know how to do it. 553 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640 So it takes very very little amount of time. 554 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,720 Yeah, it takes you only an hour to do that. 555 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880 It would. Take you as well. 556 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,040 I feel like when you're young and it's not like I remember 557 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160 when I was in high school doing work for like family and friends 558 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200 and there it was always like the most insane revisions. 559 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,680 Like can we just see a completely new direction or 560 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,040 something like that? And you're doing it for free and 561 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,000 you're just like, this is a lot of this is a lot more work than 562 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,800 I was originally expecting. And if you don't communicate 563 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,000 that, you know, then then it's then it's hard. 564 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,160 It's hard. The other person doesn't 565 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,680 realize. They may not realize how much 566 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,840 work it actually takes. If you're just saying, yes, yes, 567 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,240 yes, but this is unreasonable. I don't think this person is the 568 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400 asshole. I think, I think the mother is. 569 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,560 No, I agree, especially not getting paid for anything like 570 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,800 Jesus. Like is it if you're you're 571 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,400 making money off of the stuff like if she if the mom is doing 572 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,280 these events, what does the mom do? 573 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,000 What are? The events, yeah, yeah, it's 574 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,960 very expletive. Yeah, different events that she 575 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760 participates in. What are the events? 576 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Is she making money at these events like? 577 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Justifying it because she doesn't have the artistic vision 578 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,800 that I do as well is like such a cop out as well. 579 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,080 I shouldn't pay you because I have a smooth brain. 580 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,960 Yeah, it's like, I would do it, but I'm not like as talented as 581 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,440 you are, so you should do it for free. 582 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,160 So that's why I shouldn't because I was going to do. 583 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200 You're more talented than me, so that's why I don't pay you. 584 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,880 She. Says that if I don't make a 585 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,920 design, I am not allowed to ask her any favor ever again. 586 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Is like the. Crazy slime. 587 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Yeah. Child minor. 588 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,360 That's crazy. Well, I'm happy this person got 589 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,280 into their dream college. Yeah, that's a nice one past. 590 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,440 Older AP classes and I hope the AP classes actually counted 591 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680 towards something. Maybe they're a kind head. 592 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,800 I hope maybe, maybe. There's sty head. 593 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440 There's actually a very real possibility of yeah. 594 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,640 That'd be awesome. I feel like I feel like I want 595 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,360 to share this at the bottom here there is someone did say that 596 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,480 yes this person was the asshole and I I think this is This is an 597 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,960 insane comment which the OP responded to and someone said 598 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,560 quoting sections of their post. I am in too many 599 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200 extracurriculars to have a job during the school year. 600 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,880 So you want your family to pay for these extras? 601 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480 Seems like they could stop paying and you'd have a piece of 602 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,520 time. He says that if I don't make a 603 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280 design I'm not allowed to ask her any favors ever again. 604 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560 But you ask often, then question mark enough that you panic and 605 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,600 run to dad when she tried to cut you off from her favors. 606 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,880 Your parents aren't. Entitled to your work for free. 607 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360 Good opinion, but you aren't entitled to theirs either. 608 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,360 So far this has been a one way St. of favors running in your 609 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,240 direction. Yes, the asshole. 610 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,880 So. Yes. 611 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,520 The I love when people say like, if you, you, yes, you should be 612 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,080 like grateful for like, you know, the amount of work that 613 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:39,000 some parents put into caring, but the parents generally 614 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,040 probably wanted you and like signed up in that sense to be a, 615 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,760 a parent in some capacity. I hate parents who are like, you 616 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840 owe me. And it's like a 16 year old. 617 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,400 What do you mean a 16 year old owes you? 618 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,720 Like they're a child. What do they owe you? 619 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Like wow, you parents. Are homework. 620 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,800 Doing stuff for you. It's like, yeah, they're the 621 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,880 parents. This is a fucking child like. 622 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,640 That's that's their job. I've always dreamt of having a 623 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,080 child to do my design work. I think that'd be awesome, you 624 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,280 know? There's a, a great anarchist 625 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,280 theory about like, kids are one of the most oppressed classes in 626 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:27,840 the world because of the way parents really are so 627 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,320 controlling over their kids out under the guise of like, I'm 628 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,040 protecting them, I'm teaching them. 629 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,080 I'm I gave them everything. So now they need to give me 630 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,840 everything in return. And just like the domineering 631 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,239 attitude of so many parents is truly like, terrifying. 632 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Yeah, as someone with a very domineering parents, but man, 633 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,320 girl, I'm glad you're, I'm glad you're adding him. 634 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,840 Quite well, because even the response to that was like, it's 635 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,080 just so sweet. This person seems very sweet. 636 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,280 This is very well written. Like this is someone who is 637 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,280 like, this is someone who's really tried to be reasonable, 638 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:14,080 like 1 does not end up posting on this if they're like being 639 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,840 flippant. Like this is someone who's like, 640 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880 I'm out, I'm backed into a corner. 641 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:25,280 My mom is crazy so slay Lever. If you are a Kelly Head, please 642 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,560 let us know. Yeah, genuinely, MTA, OK. 643 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,120 Episode 22 appearance on the screen share. 644 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,000 Oh, because you screen shared the run sheet. 645 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,280 It's. Funny, and I think I. 646 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,080 Yeah, I've noticed. Exposed. 647 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,000 No, no pay for you this week, Jared. 648 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,560 All right. Our slash entitled people. 649 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,480 This is awesome. What is this? 650 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,160 What is this subreddit for? It just was reporting on 651 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,200 entitled people. Oh yeah yeah OK. 652 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,200 What is the S? Am I the asshole for not doing 653 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,200 free work? Free graphic work for my 654 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,200 neighbor and causing tension between us? 655 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,760 Well, what kind of tension? Tension between us causing 656 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,640 tension. Sexual tension. 657 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,440 Yeah, yeah. What happened? 658 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,120 I'm edging my neighbor by not working. 659 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,040 I'm sure that's where this post is going, surely OK. 660 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,400 My work neighbor. Work neighbor. 661 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,360 Okay, so is that someone who maybe shares if you're in an 662 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,160 office building? Yeah, this feels like a 663 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,400 freelance or shared space potentially, Potentially. 664 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,400 My work neighbor who runs a high end business catering to local 665 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,880 celebrities. Okay. 666 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,680 I'm kind of a local celebrity in my own right. 667 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,840 Yeah? Approached me today asking for 668 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,360 help with some graphic design work. 669 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,480 He's working on a project and already has the logos designed, 670 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,160 but he needs help tweaking and adjusting them to fit properly 671 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:21,360 over wet graph. Paper your work neighbor 672 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,960 approaches you for help on his wet graph paper. 673 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,360 OK, God, my client wants to. He wants me to do Jesse's logos 674 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,800 for the wet graph paper. What is wet graph paper that is 675 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,800 not in my wheelhouse? So he can print them out. 676 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,320 For context, he's completely graphically. 677 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840 No, he. Doesn't even own a computer. 678 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,720 This is a guy. This is a guy. 679 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,680 You run a business and you don't own a computer. 680 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,760 How do you run a business? Yeah, legit. 681 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,360 The white graph paper. Local celebrities, just just 682 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,600 just just community heroes. So does this guy just have like 683 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,960 a Rotary phone in his office? Yeah, I. 684 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,000 Did a quick mock up for him in Canva and he loved it. 685 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,280 Now he's asking for more help which involves additional 686 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,120 tweaking and resizing to get everything and just right. 687 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,600 This is literally make the logo bigger. 688 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Yeah, for the wet graph paper. He's helped me in the past by 689 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,240 loaning me some random items, which I've appreciated, but I've 690 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,200 never asked him to do anything that involves his time for free, 691 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,560 and I never expect him to do work for free either. 692 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,520 What he's asking for will take up to an hour and require 693 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,680 several back and forth revisions to get everything sorted. 694 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080 I feel like this is more than a casual favor. 695 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,040 After a tax exchange over this, he's now giving me the silent 696 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,520 treatment. He is clearly mad at me. 697 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160 Am I the asshole if I don't want to do this work for free even 698 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,600 though he's helped me out before? 699 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,760 I have so many questions. Why is this person this person 700 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,800 in the wrong subreddit? As far as I know, this is you 701 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,720 know. Straight to entitled people as 702 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:04,360 bold. Yeah, I think this is very 703 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,800 interesting. I think I definitely have been 704 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,920 in this situation where you say yes to a small thing and then it 705 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,280 kind of like once it leaves their hands and into yours just 706 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,040 for a bit, then it, it, the, the return process is much more 707 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,000 difficult because suddenly you're the, you've become an 708 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,360 expert in this and they've lost a lot like a bit of confidence 709 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,280 in their own vision. They see the potential and it 710 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,600 really is down to communication at this point. 711 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,640 It's, it's all just because it's so no one knows how to be a 712 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,840 client. I think especially like 713 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,800 independent people, no one knows how to be the client. 714 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,240 I think everyone should know how to value someone else's work. 715 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:47,160 I think that's a big thing. If I ever work with anyone, I'm 716 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,560 always like, let me, if they're a professional, I'm like, let me 717 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,360 pay you. Let me pay you. 718 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,280 Like, that's a big part of it. And I think, you know, other 719 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480 freelancers should uplift each other in that kind of way. 720 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,800 But if maybe this person genuinely thinks that loaning 721 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,920 random items is equivalent, and maybe it is to them, you got to 722 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,920 understand. I'd like to know more about 723 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,480 these items. Yeah, what are they like? 724 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,960 How Like if it was like, Oh, my neighbor loaned me his like 725 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,760 photo studio and camera equipment for two days. 726 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,200 Like OK. Yeah. 727 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,600 That's a lot of value and stuff that was loaned or if it's like, 728 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,560 oh, do you have a plunger? Yes, different, you know. 729 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,440 Yeah, did you clock the toilet? Yeah, like, so that's, that's 730 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,000 fair. I just, I'm very fascinated on 731 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,520 what your neighbor, your work neighbor does and the tension 732 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,480 that you've created catering to local celebrities with the wet 733 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,440 graph paper. I love, I do love that line of 734 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:49,280 work catering to is that food, do you reckon catering or is it 735 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,800 just is it just like who what do what is the what does the 736 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,040 catering involve I wonder? Where do you live where you have 737 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,000 local celebrities? It's working on a project and 738 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,760 already has the logos designed, so it's like this. 739 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,440 There's A and what is the wet graph paper? 740 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,440 You print them out. People who work in like print 741 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,560 production are like, it's this one thing that everybody who 742 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,080 works in print knows. How do you OK, I'm sorry. 743 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,320 I don't feel foolish. I don't know. 744 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:20,080 I'm just picturing like a stack of like, graph paper that you'd 745 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,400 have in school, but just like, like it was like dunked in a 746 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,680 toilet or something. Yeah. 747 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,040 And it's just like all rippled and swollen. 748 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,400 That's what I'm picturing. And I'm like, well obviously you 749 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,720 can't print on that. Yeah, also a hot tag. 750 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,280 Using the term to describe someone as graphically 751 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,240 challenged makes you the entitled person. 752 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,200 It makes you the entitled person. 753 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,920 I'm going to say that's kind of crazy. 754 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,760 Kind of crazy. Just because they don't own a 755 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,320 computer doesn't mean that they're graphically challenged. 756 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,160 Just because they only have a Rotary phone doesn't mean 757 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,600 they're graphically. They have a Rotary phone and a 758 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,680 slab of wet graph paper. OK, give them a break. 759 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,360 I do think that's a big it's a it's a big issue in the 760 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,240 industry. People people thinking that 761 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,600 people going on they don't have any taste. 762 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,400 They got no style, they got no skill. 763 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,960 Fuck them. You know, and I get it. 764 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,960 Does it does happen. It does exist. 765 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,080 They can be. Random We graphically challenged 766 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,760 people in this world. I do know, but it. 767 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,960 We should not look down on them. Welcome them with open arms. 768 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,240 Exactly. I would. 769 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,520 I would say like this is one of those things like this would 770 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,400 apply to any client, whether it's your work neighbor or any 771 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,920 anyone, especially with like people you might have a closer 772 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,760 relationship with. That's not just like a distant 773 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,720 person, that would just be a client. 774 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,000 This is like like neighbors are like family and friends 775 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,840 adjacent. Or maybe you are friends with 776 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,800 your neighbors. I am, but like, that's kind of 777 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,600 it's, I feel like it's easier for people to lean into things 778 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,000 and kind of push those boundaries a little bit more 779 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,000 because it's like, it's more so just like a favor instead of an 780 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,800 exchange. But maybe, maybe direct your 781 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,400 work neighbor to the local library where he can use the 782 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,920 computer and maybe, you know, show him how to sign up for 783 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,680 Canva and just hand over your Canva templates. 784 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,880 And yeah, he will no longer be graphically challenged. 785 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,360 I do think that is the probably the best solution in this case. 786 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,400 Don't, don't, don't give them the fish. 787 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,360 Teach them how to fish right. Yeah. 788 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,520 I think like you kind of have to in the sky. 789 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,200 I think that's probably the easiest way if you want to do it 790 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,240 free, if you don't want to waste too much time, be like, hey, I 791 00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:43,840 don't have the time to take this on right now because if I'm 792 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,640 going to work for you, you're a friend of mine. 793 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,200 I want it to be good. You know, that's I think that's 794 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,320 how you would start it. I also just had a really quick 795 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,160 joke, which I think I'm going to turn into a poster. 796 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,040 Maybe I can do it, which is the easiest way to lose a friend is 797 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,920 to offer graphic to do their graphic design work because I 798 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,000 think that genuine. I've lost a lot of the client. 799 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,120 Genuinely lost. Yeah, turn them into the client. 800 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,720 I've genuinely like had such awkward back and forth with 801 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,800 people that I've that I've that have been the last messages 802 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,360 we've sent. You know, it's kind of awful, 803 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,200 but. It's. 804 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,760 Truly, you do need to approach it to stop being like I would. 805 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,280 I would want to put in more time and you know, obviously I. 806 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,920 Can't you deserve better? Free stuff. 807 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,840 You deserve better. But in the meantime, let me show 808 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,080 you a way that you can still have full control. 809 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,080 Here's canva.com. And here's some fonts. 810 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,800 Yeah, like, that's a basic size. Well, it's just some fonts that 811 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,280 might hand it over. Yeah. 812 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,360 Yeah. A recommendation list. 813 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,280 You don't have to do it all, because it is. 814 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,760 It is tough when you say that they want to make small changes 815 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,800 to your to your vector and you don't know they don't know how 816 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,240 to change a vector. And then there's just pixel 817 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,120 pushing and it's just. Like then you're screwed. 818 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,200 Make the logo bigger. Make the logo smaller. 819 00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,880 Yeah, yeah. OK, so people are generally 820 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080 saying you do it once, you might ask for more later. 821 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,400 That's true. Yeah, so. 822 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,320 Interesting. Good puzzle. 823 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,640 Feels like it provides a lot of context about this person. 824 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,200 They like voiced your concern and then they just. 825 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,720 Yeah, the side treatment. Is yeah, grown adult. 826 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,360 I think that means that you don't have to give back the 827 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,760 random items if they've guessed she. 828 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,720 Keep that plunger. Keep the plunger. 829 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,400 Good little post. This is quite fun. 830 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,600 I'm enjoying this. Reading this I see why people 831 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,440 make YouTube videos doing this. Whole podcast. 832 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,280 I'm sorry Jared, this is how I'm doing it. 833 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,160 I'll do something. Better or should we jump to 834 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640 another? Category, Yeah, let should we 835 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,880 do? Yeah, one of the vent ones 836 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,080 maybe. I just. 837 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,560 OK, Yeah, here we go. 20 years of Adobe and I've done. 838 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,160 Yeah, seven days ago. Oh, this is popular. 839 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,720 This is popular. OK, why don't you read this? 840 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,080 One. Yeah, I got it. 841 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:08,120 I'm graphically challenged. This is on RI Love that in the 842 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,600 bottom right of this screen share there's just fuck Adobe 843 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,320 with all of my heart from R slash graphic designing just 844 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600 kind of there. Good to know people people feel 845 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,560 the same. OK this is 20 years of Adobe and 846 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,400 I'm done. Tagged as a vent in R slash 847 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,720 graphic under score design. I've been using Adobe since I 848 00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:30,800 was 11. Illustrator, Photoshop, After 849 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,320 Effects, Indesign. This software built my entire 850 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,680 career. I loved it, genuinely just tried 851 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,280 to cancel my subscription. This person was using Flash. 852 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,520 They were making animations in Flash. 853 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,480 Flash is a site which. Means that they're like my age. 854 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,880 Yeah, just tried to cancel my subscription and they want £70 855 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,560 to let me leave an exit fee for software. 856 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,240 I blocked my card, froze my account and changed banks 857 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,520 because Jesus Christ, Because that's how. 858 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,960 Far, I'm taking my money. This is crazy. 859 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,680 The software is still incredible, I'm not pretending 860 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,360 it isn't. Adobe AI tools are stupidly 861 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680 good, OK? And they make my job easier, 862 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,400 more efficient and idea driven. Less on your side now. 863 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,800 Yeah, I know, keep confusing, really confusing. 864 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,640 More efficient and idea driven instead of technically, 865 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,880 especially paired with other tools. 866 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,600 The company behind the software has lost the plot. 867 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,160 They've over engineered their entire system to be profit 868 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,800 driven, hooking people into small print and trapping users 869 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,680 who aren't reading the terms like it's a law degree in 870 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,520 shitification. Back in the day it felt built 871 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,400 for the creatives by the creatives. 872 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,920 Now it's built by greedy profit driven corporates in control of 873 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,560 daydreaming geniuses and sold to those not yet aware. 874 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,840 So where are you lot at with this? 875 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,480 Still writing it out, Made the jump to Infinity or something 876 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,360 else? Can anything actually replace 877 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,240 what Illustrator and Photoshop do right now? 878 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,680 AI tools included? The line has been crossed for 879 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,400 me. Wondering how many of you feel 880 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,200 the same? Wow, 881 uploads in seven days? 881 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,920 That's pretty. That's pretty big for Oscillos 882 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,280 graphic under score design. This is one of those people, 883 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,400 like we started watching the show neighbors. 884 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,120 I don't know if you've heard about it, but it's like about, 885 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,680 it's like, it's like a reality show, that sitcom. 886 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,560 Neighbors. Oh no, no, no. 887 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,320 And sorry, not. Sitcom. 888 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,800 This is very American, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 889 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,680 I think very American good of this, it's created but. 890 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,200 It's just about like. People as like the Yeah. 891 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,600 Yeah, it's like spats between neighbors. 892 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,880 And when we were sitting down to watch it, we were like, we're 893 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,760 about to see people with the most insane political 894 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,040 alignments. Yeah, like it is going to be the 895 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,240 most like they have. OK, this one belief, you're 896 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:49,640 like, oh, that's really good that they believe this. 897 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,240 And it's like the most insane thing that completely 898 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,640 contradicts it. But yet they hold both at the 899 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,920 same time. This is one of those people. 900 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,840 Like, I just hate the insertification of Adobe. 901 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,080 I think they're just scalping people with the money every 902 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,360 month. But I do really love their AI 903 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,920 tools and there's really nothing quite like it. 904 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,160 But I really hate that it was so hard to. 905 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,240 Guess yeah, I am wondering which are you, which tools that are 906 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:18,920 really helping them because. Maybe they have the Killian bot? 907 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,600 Maybe they have Killian bot. It's a very good point. 908 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,600 They might have access to Jared, but I think yeah, this is this 909 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,920 is confusing that they see a lot of you know that that that it's 910 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,600 greedy profit driven corporates, but they don't understand that 911 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,800 that applies to literally the entire AI industry. 912 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,600 It's it is confusing. What is there a top comment on 913 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,840 this one? I feel like this one would have 914 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,960 would have a. Yeah, I gave up on them too. 915 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,480 Outstanding software, but the grid is completely unhinged. 916 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,920 Plenty of alternatives out there. 917 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,720 Affinity. Affinity mentioned just released 918 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,000 version 3 and it's a high quality and free replacement for 919 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,400 Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign. 920 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,480 AI tools have a cost if needed, but that's rather common. 921 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,480 Yeah, yeah. So here. 922 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,200 We go the next comment on on at the bottom there. 923 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,720 This is a classic slash graphic under score design thing being 924 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,400 like, you agree? Yeah, that's not an exit fee. 925 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,920 It's a fee for breaking the one year contract that you signed in 926 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,600 which you agreed to subscribe for a full year in exchange for 927 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,680 a lower per month cost. Yeah, I would prefer that if it 928 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,080 were a straight unlimited license and not a subscription, 929 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,720 but that ship has sailed. It's like this is how it is now, 930 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:37,840 bucko. To quote Kyle Kolinsky, you're 931 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,440 glazing Adobe GUI, OK? Gooey. 932 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,000 Stop. Stop glazing gooey. 933 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,760 OK? Jesus Christ. 934 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,520 It's an exit fee actually. Well, this is literally, well, 935 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,320 actually. Yeah, Jesus Christ, I do hate 936 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,160 that thing. But also this, this OP hasn't 937 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:02,320 hasn't talked to their customer support yet, which because it is 938 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,840 ridiculous. It's like, it's like the thing 939 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,200 when you when I signed up to Adobe Stock for the seven day 940 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,720 free trial. And then I forgot. 941 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,760 To cancel it and then when I did go and cancel it I had to pay 942 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,920 $400.00. I was like this is when like 943 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,360 this is in because they they hide it like this is the thing. 944 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,080 It's like I think someone else mentioned it very like with 945 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,920 some. A lot of people got wrapped up 946 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,320 in the. I got wrapped up into it and 947 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,080 even Matt got wrapped up into it because we both realized because 948 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,600 we had like I think it was before we merged our Adobe 949 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,200 accounts, but like we had individual Adobe accounts. 950 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,560 And then we both realized that we are both paying for Adobe 951 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,440 stock somehow. And this was like in like 2018 952 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,440 and it would have been like a year that had been like wrapped 953 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,160 up into it. And I wasn't paying attention 954 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,920 because it was just on like autopay and I was paying another 955 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,000 $10 every month for Adobe stock. And I think I just like went 956 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,840 sicko mode on on something and I was able to cancel it. 957 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,640 But like you can't even like get the credits that like I was 958 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,080 like, well, at least I'll use all my credits. 959 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,040 Nope. So. 960 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,000 Yeah, it's, it should make it very clear when you sign up. 961 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,680 It should be a thing that you have to like, read and approve 962 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,120 being like, if you can't, like, you know, if they're going to do 963 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,840 it, it should say like, just letting you know if you cancel 964 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,080 this, you will have to pay all of it up front. 965 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,880 Do you agree? And you have to like, do it 966 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,080 rather than hiding it in like a terms and conditions kind of 967 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,520 thing. They're like class action. 968 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,200 Why can't they just have it be like a cancel anytime like 969 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,200 what's the point Why they desperate? 970 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,120 To make money because they're going under because they're 971 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,720 going. Under that's true. 972 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,960 They deserve it. But the answer to this everyone 973 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,360 if you ever get into the situation, message the customer 974 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,640 support. Do not stop until you don't have 975 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,040 to. I didn't have to pay the Adobe 976 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,320 stock thing. I just said I never used it. 977 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,520 I wouldn't use it. You can like and that's the 978 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,680 thing. It's like if I didn't have to 979 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,520 pay it, then why should anyone? You know if there's exceptions. 980 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600 I've had pretty good luck with their customer support. 981 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,400 Like when I've had issues like I would say their customer support 982 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,960 is better than a lot of other customer support that I've 983 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,960 experienced. Absolutely. 984 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,400 They're very fast. YouTube's always insane. 985 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:36,000 I they have, I have some unkind words for them, but yeah, every 986 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,760 time I've had like an issue with Adobe, they've been able to help 987 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960 me. Like when my entire font library 988 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,600 uninstalled a couple weeks ago. Whole font library. 989 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,520 Every single font on my computer uninstalled. 990 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,720 That's insane. OK, And then I posted on my 991 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,560 story and a bunch of other people were like, this literally 992 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,680 happened to me this weekend. I'm losing my mind. 993 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,600 I don't know why. And then the Adobe, I was like, 994 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,640 it's just we had to reinstall Creative Cloud and it'll it'll 995 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,680 fix it. And I'm like, I should. 996 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,720 Why? Why, Yeah. 997 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,080 It's but. Whatever, totally fair. 998 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,640 I think Affinity is a great alternative, especially now that 999 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,280 it's free. And I like that their AI tools 1000 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,640 are like separated as a premium feature, which means I'm not 1001 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,160 going to be harassed by them like I am with Adobe. 1002 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,240 Yeah. So that's really annoying. 1003 00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,320 That's how it should be. That's how it should be, yeah. 1004 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,280 I went into the controversial comments. 1005 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,120 There was one someone basically doing the blaming. 1006 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,440 Oh you, you know you're you're you have to cancellation fee 1007 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,960 because you they have to recoup OPS response. 1008 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,120 You're just straight up licking corporation ass with this post. 1009 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,280 Not going to sugarcoat. Glazing gooey. 1010 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,160 Glazing gooey which and and this is this is where I wanted to get 1011 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,560 because the next comment to this someone said if you pay 899 for 1012 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:09,040 Netflix with ads instead of 1999 for standard, do you get angry 1013 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,440 when ads show up? Because that's you right now 1014 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,600 laugh my ass off. That's not the own you think it 1015 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,760 is. Netflix used to be 899 with no 1016 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:23,600 ads and had more stuff like. That's that's this is the Asus 1017 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,120 graphic under score design to know and love right? 1018 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,720 Like this type of this type of like this is just the way it is 1019 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,200 now, OK, You have to be OK with the way it is. 1020 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,480 It's going to keep getting worse. 1021 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,480 And then they go it's it's not going to get any worse than 1022 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:39,440 this. And then when it does it go, 1023 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,080 this is just the way it is, OK. It's a good. 1024 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,000 It's the industry standard. It's a good. 1025 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,200 It's a good company. Yeah, do not fall behind. 1026 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:54,320 Still confuses to the the AI stuff on on, on OP, really. 1027 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,800 It's like. Yeah, I don't know, Maybe it's 1028 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,640 the integration. Subject stuff maybe? 1029 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,000 I don't know. I don't think this. 1030 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,800 Is because I would say the best yeah AI tool is the better 1031 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,000 select subject. Yeah, it's select subject, it's 1032 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,880 it's any of the like removing background stuff. 1033 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,480 Yeah. Or like, I don't know, maybe 1034 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,440 they're into that turntable. An illustrator thing. 1035 00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:26,000 We can take it to take a thing and make it we. 1036 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,600 Turn it around and it gets all super distorted, like it starts 1037 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,120 looking like the early Dolly days. 1038 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,320 Yeah, it's good to know. That's weird subscriptions. 1039 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,720 So we do one more of this, maybe. 1040 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,040 Let's do what event? Or either or either. 1041 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,880 What do you reckon? Maybe an advice one? 1042 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,760 Maybe an advice one? OK, what do we have here? 1043 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,880 How to deal with clients who don't? 1044 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,240 Something just got replaced by AI. 1045 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,760 Maybe they'll maybe that one. Yeah, I think that's. 1046 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:54,840 Maybe. Maybe this is what we're 1047 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,960 talking. Yeah. 2.9 hours and upwards. 1048 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,680 Who's turns it to red? Yours. 1049 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,400 You want to take this one or should I? 1050 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,960 Sure, OK, whelp, I love when people say well. 1051 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,440 Yeah, I love whelp. Well, just got replaced by AI. 1052 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,920 Someone's seeking career advice. I've been working in Graph. 1053 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,040 Let me I'm just adding graphic design. 1054 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,760 Sorry, I've been working. We can't assume. 1055 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,640 We can't assume in the graphic design subreddit. 1056 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,320 So that's true, True. That's a shame. 1057 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,200 Shame of mine I can't read. I've said that. 1058 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,200 I've been working in design for 12 years and recently got hired 1059 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,880 for a flat rate logo plus billboard project. 1060 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,280 Interesting combination. Yeah, yesterday the client sent 1061 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,480 me a generated graphics of what he wants and he simply wants me 1062 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,800 to recreate them. They're unfortunately really 1063 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:57,360 good and exactly what he told me he was looking for during our 1064 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,440 kickoff meeting. I've been extremely angry ever 1065 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,360 since. I always assumed that we'd be 1066 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,000 fine with the AI integration, as AI can't put soul into graphics 1067 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,640 and will never be able to. Maybe emotion, but not soul. 1068 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,320 I appreciate that, however I never considered this type of 1069 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,760 replacement situation and definitely foresee it becoming a 1070 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,040 norm. I'm thinking about adding a 1071 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,120 stipulation to my contract and possibly pricing guide stating 1072 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,120 that I will not recreate AI generated images if client wants 1073 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,600 that they can go to fiber. Is this a bad idea? 1074 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,400 I don't know if I can stay in this industry if AI becomes a 1075 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,880 creative director, which makes me so sad. 1076 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,440 I dealt with a situation like this very recently. 1077 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:53,000 I had a client at a major label bring AI generated stuff to our 1078 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:58,200 creative meeting. And I didn't know that it was 1079 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:04,840 AII was looking at it. And I was like, there's a hue, 1080 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:13,560 there's a hue, A tint to it. And then I eventually brought it 1081 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,600 up with another director and they were like, Oh yeah, this 1082 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,440 happens a lot with this client. And I was like, and you decided 1083 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,400 I was the one to handle the project. 1084 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,640 You thought this was going to be a good pairing me. 1085 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:33,560 And so essentially what we decided on, and I think it's a 1086 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:39,000 good practice if a client, if you don't go this route, which I 1087 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,240 think the route that they presented here is genuinely a 1088 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,160 good route. If you don't go this route. 1089 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,600 The alternative would be, and it's something that I've 1090 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,960 implemented, if I don't abandoned ship, which I'm 1091 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,440 perfectly fine with people wanting to abandon ship because 1092 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:59,840 these are like sycophants. But what you can do is if a 1093 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,720 client brings AI generated stuff to you. 1094 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,400 What you can do is control what you give back to them. 1095 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,520 So even if you're presented with that, sometimes you might not 1096 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,560 have a choice to abandon the project or back out for whatever 1097 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,240 reason. What you can do is just control 1098 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,600 what you give back. So it might involve a difficult 1099 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:30,880 conversation with them and say, you know, in and around working 1100 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,200 off of ideas like this. And it's a big reason why in 1101 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,320 graphic design, it is still fairly taboo. 1102 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,600 And I don't think it will go away or I don't, I don't think 1103 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,320 it will become as big of an issue that I think we initially 1104 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,840 thought it would be. And that's because of the lack 1105 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,840 of legal foundation around AI generated graphics. 1106 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:57,360 Like the US Supreme Court ruled like a month ago that this stuff 1107 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,680 can't be trademarked because it has to, that it can't like it's 1108 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,760 source work can't be like fully AI generated. 1109 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,360 Like it needs to be created by a person. 1110 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,840 And that's why a lot of people are like like legal teams find a 1111 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:21,760 lot of issues with AI generated stuff because it's legally hard 1112 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,040 to enforce. So that is a a pretty strong 1113 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:32,320 armed way to go back to the client as if you're essentially 1114 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,560 being asked to RIP off the AI generated stuff. 1115 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,840 Having the conversation with the client. 1116 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:43,800 If you're in the US here that, you know, remind them of the 1117 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,600 Supreme Court ruling about this stuff is not able to be 1118 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,040 trademarked. So if you want to be as safe as 1119 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,160 possible, the best way if you want to be able to trademark a 1120 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,520 graphic or have legal backup behind it, being able to say 1121 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,320 that a human was behind this the entire way. 1122 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:06,720 Instead of saying, oh, the brainstorm was AI generated and 1123 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,080 we use that as a jumping off point. 1124 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,240 If someone were to really come to you and pin you on the source 1125 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,160 of something, you wouldn't be able to back that up very far 1126 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,720 other than to oh, well, I fed it into, I don't even know a 1127 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:26,320 program to make the graphic and then it was transformed via 1128 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,560 human. I think legally speaking, it 1129 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,920 doesn't have the foundation of like people worked on this the 1130 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,640 entire time. It was never generated in any 1131 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,000 aspect. So I think, you know, reminding 1132 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,680 people of lack of legal foundation for something does 1133 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,920 tend to scare people into wanting to cooperate if push 1134 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:53,640 does come to shove. You were to be sued for whatever 1135 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,080 reason. AI is known for just taking 1136 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,040 stuff and going and spitting it back out. 1137 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,680 So you don't know where the things were pulled from. 1138 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,520 So someone could come after you because one of their things got 1139 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,560 fed into this generation and then they could be mad at you 1140 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,720 because it was then transformed in another way. 1141 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,280 So being able to say people were behind it the whole time I think 1142 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,760 is a better argument with clients. 1143 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,800 But if you have that conversation and they still are 1144 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:32,600 like, no, I want to do this. Being able to just say, OK, I'm 1145 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,400 in control here. I can give them something that I 1146 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:42,800 made in, in the best of your ability and not, you know, give 1147 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,080 them any AI generated stuff back. 1148 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,280 Essentially, you can only control what you give them in 1149 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,520 that situation. If the conversations don't go 1150 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,200 anywhere, just know that you have that control. 1151 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,960 And that was the ultimately the conclusion we came to with this 1152 01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,320 other client that I was working with. 1153 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,480 And I eventually like asked to be removed from the project 1154 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:09,880 because it got out of out of my hands because it was just a 1155 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,960 little too beyond my comfort level. 1156 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:19,960 So it's a very real possibility. I really like the idea though of 1157 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,280 the stipulation in the contract. Yeah, I was going to say, I 1158 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,440 really like it, very valid. I think that'll help you find 1159 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,160 like clients who also in Tai as well. 1160 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,160 I think it would be a good way of like preventing issues down 1161 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,280 the track I. Have it on my website, like in 1162 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,680 my about section. Like it's very clear that I do 1163 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,640 not use it and I do not work with it. 1164 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,760 And I think being upfront with that, like it's ultimately a 1165 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,280 sign of respect for yourself and also the client. 1166 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,360 Like it's like, come on, let's be like adults about this, OK. 1167 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,600 Like do you want people to care about your business? 1168 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,440 Yeah, because everybody sees businesses using AI as like, it 1169 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,320 like cheapens the business. Like it's like, oh, so you don't 1170 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,760 care? Do you care about your business? 1171 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,520 Because from this it looks like you don't. 1172 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,320 Yeah, it's like gives it gives the client like a bit of an 1173 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,920 outsider perspective from you as the designer. 1174 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,680 Yeah, I imagine clients could get very, they wouldn't be able 1175 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,720 to see that. They think that, oh, everyone's 1176 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,320 using it all these look at all these other businesses using AI. 1177 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,480 I'm an I'm a business as well. I should like follow that trend. 1178 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,240 I think they a lot of them get caught up in doing that rather 1179 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,360 than looking at it from the other perspective is actually 1180 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,680 using the product that you're doing whatever. 1181 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,080 Like what does that look like to you? 1182 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,280 You know, like what are you as a consumer when you look at a 1183 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,040 business using AI, they don't see that. 1184 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,400 So I think like you have the opportunity as the ground 1185 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,960 designer to like be that middleman between the the 1186 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,640 business and just the ordinary people. 1187 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,680 Yeah, I say put in the contract. I reckon that's kind of sick. 1188 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,560 Have either of you had your work put into AI generation and then 1189 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,880 like sent back as a revision? No thank. 1190 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,600 No, thank God. I can't imagine anything more 1191 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,880 demoralizing. Yeah, I'm legit. 1192 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,480 I would. I would go ballistic. 1193 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,200 Yeah, yeah, I think. That would. 1194 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,120 I think people are too afraid of me to do that, and I like that. 1195 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:27,440 That's good. A contract item though to have. 1196 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,480 Yeah, I really like that idea. Please do the like. 1197 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:35,600 You cannot put my work into HEBT to like help with revision. 1198 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,520 Yeah. I'd actually rather you come to 1199 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,520 my house and shoot me. It's just like, yeah, like what? 1200 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:43,560 What? What do you? 1201 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,240 I hate that people can't see that. 1202 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,200 I think that the client wouldn't be able to see how bad that 1203 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:53,320 would feel to be like, hey, I put your work, I gave revisions 1204 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:58,240 to your work to a bot and this is what it did. 1205 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:04,320 Can you now recreate this? It's like just, oh God, I'd be 1206 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,520 so pissed off. And they just tell, just talk to 1207 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,560 me. Literally just talk. 1208 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,000 Like so much of this could be just let's have a chat, let's 1209 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,240 have a call. I know it's one of those things 1210 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,760 like why are you asking that? Just send me the e-mail. 1211 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,720 Yeah, yeah, I think as well if this in I the top comment on 1212 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,480 this is that whole thing like who cares if the check clears is 1213 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,960 the kind of thing you know, for these jobs you perform. 1214 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,480 But if the check clears, who cares kind of thing. 1215 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,480 But like, I think like the the the whole thing of being like, I 1216 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,320 have been extremely angry ever since. 1217 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:40,320 That's that's very important to note, I think as a as if you're 1218 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,360 working. Like this is someone who's 1219 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,160 clearly like, like this is like disturbing them. 1220 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,520 Yeah, like, and it's like that's gonna that's that's going to 1221 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,920 make you hate what you do. I feel like you're going to 1222 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,800 protect your pace a little bit and that kind of thing just 1223 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,080 because the check clears kind of thing. 1224 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:59,280 It's like how how many times are you going to like put up with 1225 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,640 that level of like yourself being so pissed off about it 1226 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,120 like that Can't that that's that's going to fuck with you 1227 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,120 after a while. It's it's not going to do every 1228 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,400 so often. I feel like to put up with that 1229 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,080 kind of shit, but like you'll get. 1230 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,920 There are. Better clients out there. 1231 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,120 I'm convinced. I know I'm like a bit out of 1232 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,040 touch because I'm, you know, I work with more brands doing 1233 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,120 sponsored stuff, but I, I, I don't think like putting 1234 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,720 yourself through that level of anger is good. 1235 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,640 Like, yeah, but obviously money. Is I agree, I agree. 1236 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:38,120 I mean, I lost my my biggest client ever and doing my taxes 1237 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,520 recently has really, you know, reminded me how much that has 1238 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:48,240 hurt me financially and I lost lost the client ultimately 1239 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:57,200 because it my morals, I guess my beliefs, my values cost me this 1240 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,800 account. And it was purely because I like 1241 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,240 I'm, I'm a very patient person. And I think this applies to a 1242 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:10,640 lot of scenarios where we are willing to go like grin and bear 1243 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,720 it for a little bit and just try to see if there's another way we 1244 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,960 can work through this issue. But then it does get to a point, 1245 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,479 and I think like OP says here, that it's like really making 1246 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,520 them upset. Like that's when you've 1247 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,000 approached that point where like, I feel like I'm losing my 1248 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,960 mind. And I think there's a lot of 1249 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:37,399 legitimacy and feeling that Like, I think it's good to be 1250 01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:40,680 angry about AI because like, look at what it's doing to the 1251 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,760 world in so many ways and what it's doing to just like the way 1252 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,720 that we think. And so I think it's OK. 1253 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,279 It is, yes, a privilege to be able to decline stuff. 1254 01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:56,920 But it's also like if these things affect you over time, 1255 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,360 like like the stress of constantly being like the just 1256 01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:04,720 feeling like you're not worth something, if you just feel like 1257 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:10,160 all of your feedback can just be done by a bot like that. 1258 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,800 Also like that feeling, you know, you have that value within 1259 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,680 yourself of like, if that hurts you, that you, that's something 1260 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,760 that you value, you value yourself. 1261 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,200 And I think it's also good to remember that you have that 1262 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,080 value. So like you don't need to always 1263 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,480 degrade yourself for the sake of a check. 1264 01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:34,520 And yes, like, you know, be wise with your decisions, but I think 1265 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:39,920 it's also like, OK, in a world where everybody is just so 1266 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:46,640 easily bending, especially to AI, like it doesn't have to be 1267 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,000 the future. It's the future if you guys just 1268 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,880 lay down like we don't have like it's like when people, people 1269 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:59,760 will so boldly say like fascism is here and it's like we can, we 1270 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,640 can try to do something about it. 1271 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,520 We don't need to just lay down and accept that we live in a 1272 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,720 surveillance state. We don't need to lay down and 1273 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,560 accept that we live in a police state. 1274 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,080 We don't need to just lay down and accept the constant 1275 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,400 monitoring and kidnapping of your neighbors by ICE. 1276 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,600 Like we don't need to keep just being like, well, it is what it 1277 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,160 is. We can't just keep throwing our 1278 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,480 hands up at everything. And I feel that same way with AI 1279 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,680 and people are just gobbling it up because it's not done by a 1280 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,680 government. And like you have to understand 1281 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,200 that these companies are also collaborating with these very 1282 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,000 governments that you guys are being critical of. 1283 01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:38,480 Like, and the fact that you can't decipher between those two 1284 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:42,400 things and realize it's all connected that these companies 1285 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,960 don't care about you. And so you being upset about AI, 1286 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,880 like coming into your work, into your livelihood is a way that 1287 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,040 you pay your fucking bills. Like, I think it's OK to be very 1288 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,360 upset about that. And people who lay down and just 1289 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,880 be like, take the money. Does anything matter? 1290 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,760 Like does anything matter anymore? 1291 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,280 Does anyone mean anything? Like if you're just like, take 1292 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,520 the money. OK, so you would, you would call 1293 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,600 like the Gestapo? Like that's like that's who you 1294 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,320 are to me. Like you just don't care about 1295 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,480 people. You don't care about the 1296 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:21,080 well-being of people around you with friends, family, like never 1297 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:29,840 talk to me again. I my doctor's going to be my 1298 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,680 doctor's going to be alerted of this conversation. 1299 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,560 This goes straight to the heart, one of that. 1300 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:41,440 I'm like getting sweaty. The cherry on top of that rant 1301 01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:46,000 is that the AI poster has just broken 1,000,000 views. 1302 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,280 Let's go. People care this, I think it's, 1303 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,920 it's, it is. That's an obvious sign that the 1304 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,320 because I think, like to your point, Carl, I think it's very 1305 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,800 easy to get caught up in the in the swell of other content 1306 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,360 creators who are just trying to make a buck themselves by taking 1307 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,720 AI sponsorships or like trying to make a hot take or something. 1308 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,080 Putting up a YouTube video called graphic design is dead as 1309 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,200 we know it. Graphic designers who use AI are 1310 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,280 going to like survive this wave and are going to be the ones 1311 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,160 like profiting in the future. They really have no idea what 1312 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,640 the fuck they're talking about because they're just like me. 1313 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,320 They are just other Youtubers who don't work for client. 1314 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,720 They just they just do graphic design stuff, the content, 1315 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,720 right? And they just know that making a 1316 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:36,120 video about a trending topic and a hot take, something's saying 1317 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,080 something as crazy as Hollywood is dead, graphic design is dead. 1318 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,240 All this stuff is going to get clicks. 1319 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,360 It's just fear mongering. And it's like. 1320 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,440 And there's a lot of power. It's like why propaganda is 1321 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,640 propaganda? Like there is a lot of like 1322 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,160 psychological manipulation that goes along with that. 1323 01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:02,160 And like people not being able to recognize like when what's 1324 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:09,400 the term that I'm looking for? Oh, it's like when it's a 1325 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,760 narrative being constructed to you via media. 1326 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,040 Jared, help me. I know you know the word of the 1327 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,240 manufacture consent. Thank you. 1328 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,120 But like it's people are not able to recognize that when it's 1329 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:27,240 happening. And I hate, hate the analogy 1330 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,920 that this is like when the camera was invented. 1331 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,920 Yeah, it's the worst I. Hate that. 1332 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:39,880 Like I think that is such a disingenuous way of categorizing 1333 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,400 tools and looking at the way art evolves and changes over time. 1334 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:50,000 Like I think like that people are so stupid. 1335 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,400 This is why people need to open a book. 1336 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,440 OK? This is why reading like 1337 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,520 political literature is really important. 1338 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,840 This is why I like actually understanding praxis is 1339 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,480 important. Like it's you need to be able to 1340 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:06,160 see how these things are connected. 1341 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,360 Otherwise you're going to have weirdos like in this Reddit 1342 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,360 where they're like, I hate Adobe, but I like their AI 1343 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,800 features. Like that's someone who's like 1344 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,520 wires. Wires are loose. 1345 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,800 There are things that are not making a full, There's things 1346 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,600 not making full contact in the brain upstairs. 1347 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:27,360 Like it's why we need to understand politically how deep 1348 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,560 graphic design goes. This my Trader Joe's video idea 1349 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,800 like it's, it is that deep. It is all that connected. 1350 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:39,920 And I just wish people stopped just taking it, man. 1351 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,080 You don't need to and it is going to cost. 1352 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,200 This is something Matt said to me. 1353 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:51,600 That was a very, very sobering point when I was in the throes 1354 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,200 of losing this really big client, my biggest client I'll 1355 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:59,560 ever have, when I was saying like, this is like, it's going 1356 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:04,760 to cost me financially, you know, just to have these because 1357 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,440 it was ultimately my decision, because it was based on like my 1358 01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:12,160 values and my morals and being able to say, no, I'm not going 1359 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,840 to do this anymore. Like my boundary is here. 1360 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,040 You've crossed it. I'm done. 1361 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:21,040 And so I was like, like, like, I'm like, I'm doing this because 1362 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:25,320 of my morals and it's costing me so much. 1363 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:31,520 And he said, well, for some people it costs them everything 1364 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:40,200 though, like, everything. And it's like, yeah, it is going 1365 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,280 to cost you in the meantime, But some people literally give up 1366 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,600 everything to believe in their morals, like everything. 1367 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:54,080 And that has really sat with me as I've thought back through 1368 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,040 like this past years, as I was looking at the, you know, 1369 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,280 financial breakdown of losing this client is that it cost me a 1370 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,720 lot. It cost me almost half of my 1371 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,960 income. And I have to think it costs it. 1372 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,280 It really did cost me nearly everything. 1373 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,840 But I'm I have a roof over my head. 1374 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,000 I have health insurance. I have food, maybe not my 1375 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,720 stomach right now because I did forget tea lunch, but it like 1376 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,000 other than that, I'm still going to be OK. 1377 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,720 So it is costing me a lot, but it's not costing me everything. 1378 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,000 And that's I think why I feel like I have the leverage to be 1379 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,440 able to give more because there are people who do give literally 1380 01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:36,760 everything for their beliefs, everything. 1381 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,360 And so I think it's annoying when people are like, just take 1382 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:44,000 the money, like it inadvertently comes from a place of a lot of 1383 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,840 privilege because it's like, it just doesn't mean that much to 1384 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,880 you because it doesn't affect you in that way. 1385 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,480 And if you know anything about the cost of AI, it the poorest 1386 01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:56,600 people in the world are the people who bear the brunt. 1387 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,560 That's why I fucking hate the oh, it makes things successful. 1388 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,920 No, it doesn't, because the poorest people in the world are 1389 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:06,320 the people who actually are the cost for it to be so accessible 1390 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,960 to you. The poorest people in the world 1391 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,040 are the people bearing that weight. 1392 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,400 So it's, it pisses me off. It pisses me off so much. 1393 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:20,120 God I fucking hate AI anyway. Someone. 1394 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,480 I love your graphic design podcast. 1395 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,920 Someone asked me in my show last night what my thoughts saw and 1396 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,000 during the Question Time what my thoughts on AI were. 1397 01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:30,160 And my whole character of course loves AI. 1398 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,320 So I went on a little thing about how much I love AI and it 1399 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,640 hurt. I'm not going to laugh. 1400 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,840 It was really like, I was like, this is I can't imagine speaking 1401 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,280 passionately about this, that people genuinely. 1402 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,960 Rubes like. This was like, you know, some 1403 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,120 people like me aren't creative. This allows me to be creative. 1404 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,840 That's one of my least favorite ones being like. 1405 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,760 Community College. Creativity accessible. 1406 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,800 Now Community College. Now youtube.com. 1407 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:01,520 It takes time to learn these things. 1408 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,240 It's a skill. Oh my God. 1409 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,680 Anyway, everybody read Empire of AI by Karen Howe. 1410 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,920 I just finished it. It's phenomenal. 1411 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,080 OK. AI. 1412 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:11,880 Yes, this. Is good. 1413 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:18,440 I want to read an AIAI book. It's one of the better ones that 1414 01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:25,160 was recommended because Karen Howe has been on their ass for 1415 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,720 like 15 years. Like she like, she's like, no, 1416 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,320 there's something going on here. Yeah. 1417 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,400 And I don't like it. Yeah. 1418 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,040 She's been investigating like Open AI specifically since like 1419 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,640 2015. Oh wow. 1420 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,880 Like she's been on. Their ass this is. 1421 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:43,960 Them there. Has he been around since like 1422 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,600 2012? God, I didn't know that. 1423 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,360 Yeah, just slowly chipping away. Yep, Yep. 1424 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,600 So, and that's why, because I read that, it's why I also don't 1425 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,920 fucking trust Anthropic. Because the people who started 1426 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,560 Anthropic came from Open. Hand. 1427 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:03,640 Oh yeah. So yeah, anyway, the state of 1428 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,800 graphic design is OK if we remember that we only have each 1429 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,640 other. And that there is a lot of power 1430 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,240 and the camaraderie and community of people around you 1431 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,440 instead of just being like, how do I get XY and Z? 1432 01:20:18,440 --> 01:20:21,000 How are you guys coming with us? You cope by supporting one 1433 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,960 another. You cope by like showing up for 1434 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,480 one another, being there, listening to people, sharing 1435 01:20:25,480 --> 01:20:29,400 resources. Like that's where the power is 1436 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,200 and it'll. Trick you into thinking this is 1437 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,560 a lonely, isolating career. And it can feel like it, but it 1438 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,840 can still. Yeah, still. 1439 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,760 One of the best things I ever did was just telling people how 1440 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,480 much I was charging and then realizing I was being very 1441 01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:49,840 underpaid. Oh, there you go. 1442 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,240 Why was I keeping this a secret? It's really. 1443 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:59,080 It's so worth talking about it. So you're not alone. 1444 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,520 Now episode. We haven't done one of these 1445 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,880 ones in a while. Chatty, chatty. 1446 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:12,720 Anyway, anyway, let's get on to the things that I actually 1447 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,040 really do look forward to every week, As if I don't already look 1448 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:20,080 forward to anything but this. I dread this every week. 1449 01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:24,120 What's my favorite? This is my favorite. 1450 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,000 Oh, OK. Hates this. 1451 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:32,840 So, song of the week, do you have a song of the week? 1452 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:38,840 I should yes. My song of the week is from the 1453 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,040 new Thundercat album. It's what is left to say a 1454 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,760 Thundercat in the. Another Thundercat. 1455 01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:48,520 I love Thundercats. I have to admit I love 1456 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:54,320 Thundercats. Or actually, I'm going to I'm 1457 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:55,920 going to put this one in This one's fun. 1458 01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,400 I'm going to do this is this is this is Peek Kelliot. 1459 01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:06,560 I feel I'm going to recommend Birds Part 1 by Chassell, one of 1460 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:14,440 my favorite musicians, the French artist Chassell, who I'm 1461 01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:16,600 reading this bio. He has a has a distinctive 1462 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,640 composition method called ultra score. 1463 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,480 This music won't be for everyone, let me tell you that, 1464 01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:25,160 but it's like if what Chassell does, I've seen him live. 1465 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,080 He, he was playing piano for a comedian that I was watching in 1466 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,640 LA once. And his music is so cool because 1467 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:35,800 it like he'll hears someone talking and then hears like the 1468 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,560 cadence in their voice and like how the tone shifts and will 1469 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,440 like play piano. But it's like that kind of thing 1470 01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:43,720 where he plays piano based on how their tone moves. 1471 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,920 So it's like a lot of the music is just like people talking that 1472 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,160 he'll like chop up and turn into like cool music. 1473 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,000 And Birds Part 1 is just bird songs that he's turned into, and 1474 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:54,320 it's really kind. Of. 1475 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,480 Awesome. He's really cool. 1476 01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:59,680 I fucking love this guy and it was made back 2015. 1477 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,880 This is before reels, so it's really. 1478 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,160 Organic. It's organic. 1479 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,400 This is IGTV. He is a really nice guy. 1480 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:10,880 Forgot we called him. That good? 1481 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,880 Yeah, we called him that. Long live IGA. 1482 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,320 But yeah, Chassell give Chassell with Chassell's fucking sick. 1483 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,640 You got to get around it though. You got to like, you got to 1484 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:21,880 embrace it. You got to embrace it. 1485 01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,640 That's what I'll say. Yeah, it's like the The Plant 1486 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,080 music I like listening to. I. 1487 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,960 Army guards by Moscow. That one crazy, Yeah. 1488 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,680 It's like, it's like weird. And then you're like, hold on. 1489 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,320 You're like, hang on, I'm productive. 1490 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:41,880 Wait, am I photosynthesizing right now? 1491 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,560 I'm literally a bug. Yeah, it's so. 1492 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:46,920 Good. It's awesome. 1493 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,280 I I'm telling you, it's like taking just like a little like 1494 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,440 baby Ritalin. It's just like a yeah, it's 1495 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,000 something comes over me where I'm like I am a plant. 1496 01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,240 It's really, I actually need to be listening to that while I'm 1497 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,840 I'm going to, I'm going to quickly pull that. 1498 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,560 What was it called again? What's that album called? 1499 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,360 I've lost. It Omni gardens I'm asking. 1500 01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:10,040 Yeah, I an incredible album artwork as well. 1501 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,680 So, so good. Oh yeah, triple platinum on on 1502 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,440 Pinterest. Dear God. 1503 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,200 Checks out. Yeah, this, this. 1504 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,360 I need this right now. I need this kind of music for my 1505 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,120 brand. That's a good one. 1506 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,400 I'm just stimulating. My song is by a new artist I 1507 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,680 discovered on Instagram recently. 1508 01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:36,040 They are a duo called Esme Emerson and beautiful, 1509 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,320 beautiful, stunning music. Their visuals are incredible. 1510 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:45,680 So my song is Centipede. I love finding new music on 1511 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,560 Instagram like. Yeah, it is. 1512 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,640 You know, it's in this, it is. It is a useful tool for for 1513 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,160 artists. Yeah, it's cool. 1514 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,200 I love discovering new music and it's I feel like I sometimes 1515 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:00,920 really struggle in finding new music. 1516 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,960 And then when I find a new artist where I'm like, oh, like 1517 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,640 a water baby, who I mentioned as my song of the week a couple 1518 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:16,160 weeks ago for Memory Be a Blade, her album just came out or EP8 1519 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,400 songs just came out. It's a beautiful album and I 1520 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,880 don't see anyone talking about water, Maybe even though she has 1521 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,000 a million monthly listeners on Spotify. 1522 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:27,960 It's just. One song. 1523 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,800 Sometimes it's just one song that can fuck with them. 1524 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:35,120 Yeah, and well, they have one that has 94,000,000 plays, but 1525 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,760 it's like it's with someone else. 1526 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,240 Yeah, that is literally, I've got a friend who has a million 1527 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,800 monthly listeners and is and is just featuring on a a song and 1528 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,480 they get they get caught up in that thing. 1529 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:49,080 Yeah, but Esme Emerson, really incredible duo. 1530 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,600 Absolutely stunning. See how my song is Centipede? 1531 01:25:54,040 --> 01:26:00,040 Nice. Do you have a font of the week? 1532 01:26:06,690 --> 01:26:08,610 What was that? Was that Jared? 1533 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,280 You just play real out loud? Are you watching porn, Jared? 1534 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,120 Are you watching porn? While I was recording it, then I 1535 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,640 was looking at Kell. I was Kell, our producer. 1536 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,320 Jared was watching porn while we were recording an episode. 1537 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,360 Hey Jared, we're not on public transit. 1538 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,200 This isn't the time to start watching porn. 1539 01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,440 Everybody knows you watch porn on public transit. 1540 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,880 Yes, is the best place. To watch it. 1541 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,720 I I some people really seem to think that that I'm on the 1542 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,680 train. Time for me to get a boner. 1543 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:48,080 There are no rules. Yeah, Oh God, I I haven't been 1544 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,760 doing anything like super fun or groundbreaking this week. 1545 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:58,160 So I'm like at like, you know what, You know what my fun of 1546 01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,920 the week is going to be? Curls. 1547 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,760 Curls Mt. Curls Mt Curls curls with AZ. 1548 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:13,920 Wow, wow, the iconic curls Mt. Love her if you like had a deep 1549 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,560 connection with curls Mt, but they're like everyone's like, Oh 1550 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:23,200 my God, if you loved this is no curls, curls, curls that she's 1551 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,240 she's that girl, she's that girl Devo all. 1552 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,040 Right, I hold the microphone like a cigarette. 1553 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:35,560 I think it could be fun. What? 1554 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,280 If I held what if Jared? What if I held the microphone 1555 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,840 like a cigar? What if I held my piece? 1556 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,120 Off Jared, you're a big cigar guy. 1557 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,400 What if I wouldn't you a? Cigar would be like a little 1558 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,400 pinch though. You'd do a cigar pinch. 1559 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,880 No, this is like a hand rolled cigarette. 1560 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,440 Yeah, yeah. Hold it like this. 1561 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,320 This cigarette holders that we used to have, I have two of 1562 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,720 them. This was before they were bought 1563 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,440 by Unilever, so. This I love the design of those 1564 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:08,800 things fucking up and I love when on the website they they 1565 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,040 take photos of them like pre crumpled as wrinkled. 1566 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,760 It's so good. It's so good. 1567 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,400 It's a little. It's like, do I like that the, 1568 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,480 you know, over time they do like breakdown at the bottom and the 1569 01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:24,880 metal just splits open and then you have you squeeze to use some 1570 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,520 lotion and then someone. Comes out the other end. 1571 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,600 That's fine, whatever. Nothing matters anymore. 1572 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:31,720 It's a cool brand. It's fine. 1573 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,600 We'll put up on it. Hey, Kel, just put up with it 1574 01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:35,840 and take the check, all right? Just. 1575 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:40,360 Yeah, OK, Take it on the chin. Take it on the freaking chin, 1576 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,040 guys. Do we have a? 1577 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,800 Kelliot said. So this. 1578 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,840 Yes, we do. Do you want to see the good 1579 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,520 ones? Well, I'm only on one monitor, 1580 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,880 like a loser. All right, from Kerry Digital 1581 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,200 came up with this while watching this week's Kelliot. 1582 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,720 So vectors are from publicdomainvectors.org. 1583 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:04,520 Yay this clown. Yeah, I'm loving this clown. 1584 01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,760 Loving this clown. I also have this $5 diva 1585 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:13,680 downloaded as well. Love her that. 1586 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,040 Font at the bottom. I forget what it's called but I 1587 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,360 I think Boris. I'm pretty sure it's called 1588 01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,720 Boris. I love it. 1589 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,360 It is an awesome font. Absolutely awesome font. 1590 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,200 Yes, it's a free font by Julia Buggio. 1591 01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:31,120 I remember when this came out I lost my mind. 1592 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,400 I love Boris. It's. 1593 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,360 So good. Good to see it's still being 1594 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,440 used. It's. 1595 01:29:36,440 --> 01:29:39,320 AI will never replace me because I am the personality hire. 1596 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,600 It's true. Fantastic. 1597 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,080 Fantastic. I'd like to see AI continuously 1598 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,120 misspell something and then have to ask your Co host to spell 1599 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,560 something out for you because you can't spell it. 1600 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,160 I'd like to see AI do that. AI, Yeah. 1601 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,320 Good luck AI. I'd like to see AI fall down 1602 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,680 their stairs twice in one day. OK. 1603 01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:03,800 I'd love to see AI do 22 shows of a comedy show 22 yeah, you 1604 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:05,480 know, there's a show I. Can't shadowbox. 1605 01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:07,520 No, no. There's a, there's a show in 1606 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,440 this Comedy Festival called Artificially Intelligent. 1607 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,520 Yeah, that's just the word artificially intelligent. 1608 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,720 I guess I am. It sounds like. 1609 01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:17,480 It sounds like there's a, there's a pun in there. 1610 01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:19,840 It's not. It's officially intelligent. 1611 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,680 I guess instead of intelligence it's intelligent and the bio is 1612 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,000 like this comedian asked Chachi PT to write him a show. 1613 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,240 It was not a good idea. And it's like, I think I said 1614 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,400 that last week maybe, but I still think that's so it's So 1615 01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:35,640 what? Like what are we doing in 2026? 1616 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,760 We're doing, we're doing a ChatGPT show, you know? 1617 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,000 It's a bit, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1618 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:47,120 I had a this is the last thing, then we'll go, but I spent my 1619 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:51,200 past couple weekends going. This is going to sound insane. 1620 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:59,040 I spent my past couple weekends going to the local indoor winter 1621 01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,880 percussion and winter guard shows that are in my area and 1622 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,600 then I went to the championships. 1623 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,880 Yeah, yeah. And it's kind of like out of 1624 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:13,280 context, it's, it's very weird. But knowing you, it makes sense 1625 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:14,080 because of your. History. 1626 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,720 Yeah, And because of your history, your. 1627 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:20,120 Yes, because of your. History your past because of the 1628 01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,320 action and I like so. Yeah. 1629 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,400 Yeah, ever since the accident, I just keep going. 1630 01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:30,200 But I would like so deeply feared someone at one of these 1631 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,360 events asking like what school I was with. 1632 01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:36,800 And I did not want to have to say I'm not with any school. 1633 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,840 I just enjoy this. The love of the game. 1634 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,360 I'm here for the love of the game. 1635 01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:43,560 I'm here. Earplugs in. 1636 01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:49,960 Wow, safety. Yeah, I did 4 years of indoor 1637 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:55,440 percussion. My ears are shot OK, but I went 1638 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,680 to the Winter Guard championships, which I also did 1639 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,320 winter guard and I also did winter percussion, but I also 1640 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,920 did percussion in the fall and marching band. 1641 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:13,560 So I went to this, you know, show that's all day and the 1642 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:19,040 groups have like 7 minutes for their performance and there was 1643 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,760 this one show. There were a couple insane 1644 01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,840 themes. One of the themes was the BP oil 1645 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,960 spill. That was the first one I saw and 1646 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:33,760 I said crazy the BP oil. I don't think any of these kids 1647 01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,400 were even born when the BP oil spill happened. 1648 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,040 The. Next one was the Gulf Wars. 1649 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,760 Like, and so one of the other ones, there were some really 1650 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:47,640 creative ones, really remarkable groups. 1651 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:54,960 And one of the shows was I was scared in like the first third. 1652 01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:02,480 I was like, Oh no, Because the show was themed as asking 1653 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,960 ChatGPT to write them an indoor winter percussion performance 1654 01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:12,760 and there was a voice over of that, and I was like. 1655 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,280 Gimmick. The gimmick is odd. 1656 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:23,560 And then it turned into as the show went on, the kids like were 1657 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,240 unzipping their costumes like they were in like these like 1658 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:32,440 grey like lab type outfits. And it was like, very. 1659 01:33:32,440 --> 01:33:36,680 They were like, very sad. And I just thought I was like, 1660 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,400 well, they're kids. I don't expect them to, you 1661 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,760 know, chin up, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1662 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,800 Warm and. They hate this idea too. 1663 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,960 And yeah, I was like, this sucks, man. 1664 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,080 I put these poor kids like, look at their fucking future dog. 1665 01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,760 And then, like, as the show went on, they were like unzipping 1666 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,120 their costumes. And then it was all colorful. 1667 01:33:56,480 --> 01:33:59,160 And then, like, slowly more color started coming out. 1668 01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,960 And then it was the voice over was saying like, like 1669 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:07,480 essentially asking like why they weren't listening right, that 1670 01:34:07,480 --> 01:34:09,520 they were like rebelling against. 1671 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,200 Oh my God. The chat, it was a. 1672 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:13,040 Protest. Oh my God, this. 1673 01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,960 Is so cute. How old is it at the end? 1674 01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:17,400 What? What? 1675 01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:18,520 What? They're in high school. 1676 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,440 So they get it. That's cool. 1677 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,440 Yeah, Oh, these are probably the. 1678 01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:25,560 Kids the most. Like, yeah. 1679 01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,960 And like at the end, there was a voice over that was probably one 1680 01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,880 of the kids that said it because it sounded like a very young 1681 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:37,760 voice. And it was like the best prompt 1682 01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:42,560 is you. Wow, wow, what a beautiful 1683 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:43,880 lesson to teach the kids instead. 1684 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,320 Of being like this is how you. Know you got to use prompts? 1685 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,160 That's so nice. I was like, we got the BP Royals 1686 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:54,400 bill, we got the I was losing it. 1687 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,440 I was my ass hurts so bad from sitting on these bleachers all 1688 01:34:57,440 --> 01:35:00,240 day and I was just like the kids are OK. 1689 01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,360 Yeah, that's gorgeous. That's good education. 1690 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:09,800 It was, it was so cute and I just, I, I believe in, you know, 1691 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:14,560 supporting like local, you know, schools because they, a lot of 1692 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,240 schools don't have funding for like arts programs, band 1693 01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,560 programs, any sort of like performance programs. 1694 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,520 Like I was very lucky to go to a very, you know, well funded high 1695 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:27,840 school, But I also competed against schools that didn't have 1696 01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:32,880 all the windows in their gyms. Like they, they once had a 1697 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,840 window. It was just air. 1698 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,800 Now, some of them were like boarded up, but the other ones 1699 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,960 just, there was just no glass, just an open air gymnasium 1700 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,520 essentially. And like that was like a regular 1701 01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,840 type of thing that we were competing against. 1702 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,640 So coming from a very nice school, I was like, Jesus 1703 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,080 Christ. And then I went to these 1704 01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,480 performances because I was competing against schools in the 1705 01:35:53,480 --> 01:35:55,880 Bay Area. So you had like a lot of inner 1706 01:35:55,880 --> 01:36:02,280 City Schools and then like up here I was like, these are some 1707 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,440 well funded band programs. Yeah. 1708 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:09,800 God damn, like, like all Yamaha keyboards, like, holy shit. 1709 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:14,560 I think really nice. Like, like marimbas can vary 1710 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,600 from like 8 to 15 grand. Yeah, they're not cheap 1711 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,440 instruments. And then they'll have like 20 1712 01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:25,640 keyboards and I'm like, where? What? 1713 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,440 So. Anyway, the kids are OK. 1714 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,880 It was really, it made me happy because I don't, I don't know 1715 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:37,960 any kids in my life, but it was just really sweet to to know. 1716 01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,000 Like and now you get. You might meet some now. 1717 01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,080 Oh, I did not want any of them to talk to me. 1718 01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:46,080 Stick around afterwards. It was great job everyone. 1719 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:50,240 I used to play actually and yeah yeah, if you need, I caught. 1720 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:54,320 Myself a couple times because like you like during like guard 1721 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,960 shows, like if there's a really good catch, if there's just a 1722 01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:02,040 really like good like snappy moment in the show, like you, 1723 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,760 the audience like is responding to that where like people are 1724 01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:08,200 cheering, you know, and it's not like you sit there and wait 1725 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,600 until the performance is over. It's like very lively during the 1726 01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,880 show and it's a really fun energy to feed off of. 1727 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,640 And it's very different from a lot of other types of 1728 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:22,040 performance art where it's like you stay very quiet until the 1729 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,520 end and versus, I feel like more like in comedy, for example, 1730 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,680 like you're interacting more. So you're really feeding off of 1731 01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,320 the energy. And it has a big effect on the 1732 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,600 performers. And like, there were a couple 1733 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,920 moments where like people would like, stand up and cheer after 1734 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,280 something really good. And I was just sitting there 1735 01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:41,920 like clapping. And then there was one where I 1736 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:46,920 felt myself start to get up and I was like, I'm 30, 30. 1737 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,480 I don't know anyone here. I'm here alone. 1738 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:53,920 They would have loved it. They would have loved it. 1739 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:59,720 But it was just, it was, it was really cathartic to see kids 1740 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,400 still loving or performing music in that way because a lot of 1741 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,320 people, it's a very American thing. 1742 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:11,520 And it's just, it makes me very happy to hear like like hearing 1743 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,520 a drumline warming up in the distance. 1744 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,480 It's like, it makes me like swing and kick my feet. 1745 01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:17,800 Like I just. It's. 1746 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,840 So sweet. So it was just crazy to see a 1747 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,960 Chad GBT theme show. I just, I never thought I would 1748 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,360 say that. Or BP oil. 1749 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:25,640 Spill theme show. Yeah, yeah. 1750 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,080 The teacher leading it just being like we're going to change 1751 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,160 the world of this fucking song. We're going to. 1752 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,200 They got me. My eyes were tearing up. 1753 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:35,960 I was like, the kids are OK, the kids are. 1754 01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,240 OK, That was like my Year 6 performance in primary school 1755 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,240 where we did a show about climate change. 1756 01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,600 It was awesome. It was awesome. 1757 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:44,360 This. Is going to get it. 1758 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,600 Did a song about the steam engine. 1759 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,200 It was so good. Never forget. 1760 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,880 But yeah, let's shout out to all the theatre kids, all the music 1761 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,360 kids out there in the. Future. 1762 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,560 It's so important. Yeah, it's so important that we 1763 01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,600 do these things. If you are in high school and 1764 01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,920 for some reason you're watching this, please join your your 1765 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,440 music program, your performance. Program Improv comedy. 1766 01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,600 Improv. Maybe don't do that. 1767 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,360 Don't. Don't do improv. 1768 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:13,480 Stay away from improv groups. Do improv comedy, it'll change 1769 01:39:13,480 --> 01:39:15,400 your life. You'll be able to public. 1770 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:20,000 Space join your your stomp group join like any like drum major 1771 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,720 group and I don't care what it is, please get in a performance 1772 01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,600 group, whatever it is, learn how to perform. 1773 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,720 It's such an integral skill in a team format in a group format. 1774 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:34,080 It is so good for you. Band kids can do anything. 1775 01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:39,560 I watch these kids move tons of equipment in record time. 1776 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,560 It's crazy to me. Half of them are wearing tails 1777 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,840 and they're moving large amounts of equipment. 1778 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:51,640 OK, bad kids can do anything. It's amazing. 1779 01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:56,960 So anyway, that's all I have. We'll see you guys next week. 1780 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,960 Thanks for listening everyone. A more audible Take care 1. 1781 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,840 You can watch this. You can listen to this one as a 1782 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,640 podcast. True A More Podcasting 1. 1783 01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,080 Yeah. Finally, a podcast you can 1784 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:13,000 listen to when you drive. It's all I've ever wanted and I 1785 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,280 didn't think I lost my voice, which I was worried about. 1786 01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,080 I feel like I can do a show tonight. 1787 01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,040 I'm happy. I push, I power you're. 1788 01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,920 Welcome, I sweat through my deodorant, so you didn't lose 1789 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,520 your voice, unlike raise my heart rate. 1790 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,400 But it's fine, you know? I really appreciate that, 1791 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:28,960 appreciate that that's. What the kids were doing the 1792 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:36,320 whole time 30. Love it. 1793 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:41,200 Bye, guys. Bye guys, bye. 1794 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,640 One of each. What if I held the What if I 1795 01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:49,440 held the microphone like a cigar in the recording?