1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,240 Hey everyone, this is from Konstein and you're listening to 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,000 Bitcoin for Millennials. Together with my guests on this 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,480 podcast, I go on a journey to discover how our current 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,240 financial system works, why it's flawed, and why Bitcoin is the 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,160 most relevant technology that you, my fellow millennials, 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,560 should adopt. In this episode, I'm joined by 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,040 Chris Knight, AKA Bitcoin Chris. He's a financial coach and 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,000 mentor helping people analyze and repair their credit. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,960 He's also an entrepreneur, investor and author in his 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,480 upcoming book is called Fiat That Bitcoin Dad. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,000 That's a that's a great take on the OG title, man. 12 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:35,880 He's a very outspoken Bitcoin believer and I'm excited to talk 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:36,720 with him. Welcome man. 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,040 Thank you for having me and absolutely I'm excited to to 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,920 chat with you and you know, spread the gospel of Satoshi 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Nakamoto and Bitcoin. So how did you get into Bitcoin? 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,760 I'd love to hear that because I just off mic. 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,330 I told you I saw your music. You're a rapper as well, so 19 00:00:55,370 --> 00:00:58,090 obviously rappers love money. Love money. 20 00:00:59,410 --> 00:01:03,690 Was that the entry? No, actually I talk, I talk down 21 00:01:03,690 --> 00:01:09,290 on the rappers because, you know, they teach, they don't 22 00:01:09,290 --> 00:01:11,250 teach. They influence us to spend money 23 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:13,930 frivolously on things that really don't matter, right? 24 00:01:14,410 --> 00:01:17,370 And they they influence us. You know the culture is cool and 25 00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:19,090 all that. You know and you know we 26 00:01:19,090 --> 00:01:21,690 influence the, you know the culture hip hop influences. 27 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:24,660 You know the world, right? But that wasn't how I was 28 00:01:25,420 --> 00:01:28,260 influenced by Bitcoin. I was actually introduced to 29 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:32,140 Bitcoin by Max and Stacey. Max Kaiser, Stacey Herbert. 30 00:01:32,740 --> 00:01:35,900 And I actually was working a normal job. 31 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:40,900 I used to work at Hilton at a call center, and somehow I 32 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:43,700 stumbled across, you know, Bitcoin and some shit coins. 33 00:01:44,180 --> 00:01:46,620 And back then, this is probably 26. 34 00:01:46,620 --> 00:01:50,400 This is 2016. Back then, I had no idea about 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,760 money. I had no idea what Bitcoin was. 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,320 I had no idea what shit coins were. 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,840 I just saw, you know, you can make a lot of money from it. 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,320 So instead of taking phone calls, I was actually, you know, 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,000 buying Bitcoin and buying shit coins and, you know, trying to 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,960 figure out how to, you know, get into it. 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,080 And I'm pretty tech savvy, so buying the shit coins on all 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,760 these crazy exchanges and, you know, doing all that was easy to 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,400 me. But instead of taking phone 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,080 calls, I actually bought my first Bitcoin was on Coinbase. 45 00:02:17,020 --> 00:02:19,700 So, you know, I was on Coinbase buying Bitcoin, and when I saw 46 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:23,620 Bitcoin, it was like 5-7 hundred, $800 a $1000. 47 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:26,020 And I'm like, and I was thinking of it as a stock. 48 00:02:26,020 --> 00:02:28,620 You know, I'm like, there's no way I'm buying this stock for 49 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:32,740 $1000 because I'm so used to stocks moving 2%, five percent, 50 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:34,580 10%, You know, those baby gains, right? 51 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:36,540 Stocks don't really move like that. 52 00:02:37,020 --> 00:02:40,100 But when Bitcoin went from, that's that's when the Bitcoin 53 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:43,620 bull market started, right? Because Bitcoin went from $1000 54 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:48,640 to $20,000. And you know, again, I didn't 55 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:51,440 really know much about it until I started learning from Max and 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Stacy. So shout out to the O GS, the 57 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,480 grandpa grandma of Bitcoin. You know, Max and Stacy, I got 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,880 to meet them as well. They follow me as well on 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,040 Twitter. Yeah. 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,240 And I'm really cool with them. I chat with them all the time 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,920 and you know, they're they're, they're the best in my opinion. 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,760 So without them I wouldn't be a bit corner. 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,640 Oh man, that's dope. Well, actually Max is one of my 64 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:17,960 biggest influences as well. I always I had to laugh when I 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,640 saw what his company was called. It was called Heisenberg Capital 66 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:26,600 named after after Walter White breaking Breaking Bad. 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,000 But yeah, like anyone who's listening who doesn't know Max 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,640 Kaiser, you should just search him on YouTube and then you know 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,680 why he's so influential? Like he he's been calling 70 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Bitcoin I think from $0.10 or a dollar. 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,160 I don't even know $3. I have no clue. 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,110 And he gave like thousands of Bitcoin away to people just to, 73 00:03:48,950 --> 00:03:52,350 you know, educate them. So, oh man, that's that's dope. 74 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:53,670 That's fun. Fun that you share that. 75 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:57,550 But you saw it as a stock before or like a money making 76 00:03:57,550 --> 00:04:00,110 something. Now you see it as something 77 00:04:00,110 --> 00:04:02,150 different, I think. Like what? 78 00:04:02,430 --> 00:04:04,990 What was the what was your aha moment there? 79 00:04:04,990 --> 00:04:06,990 Like when? When did that view change? 80 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:12,070 Well, seeing how Max and Stacy on the Kaiser report before they 81 00:04:12,070 --> 00:04:15,300 took down RT on YouTube. They would explain the contilion 82 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:16,860 air effect. They would explain what's going 83 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:18,899 on with the money. They would explain what's going 84 00:04:18,899 --> 00:04:21,260 on with inflation. They would explain what's going 85 00:04:21,260 --> 00:04:25,660 on over in China and they would just explain to, you know, to 86 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:28,740 their audience, you know what's what's really going on with our 87 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:33,180 money. And so growing up, I knew that I 88 00:04:33,180 --> 00:04:34,380 knew something was wrong with the money. 89 00:04:34,380 --> 00:04:35,860 I just did. I didn't have an understanding 90 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:37,060 of what was going on with the money. 91 00:04:37,060 --> 00:04:39,140 So they were able to break it down for me in a way that I was 92 00:04:39,140 --> 00:04:42,140 able to understand and the best way to for me. 93 00:04:42,770 --> 00:04:45,970 The best way I like to explain it is you know, it's real estate 94 00:04:45,970 --> 00:04:48,730 is the best way. I like to explain how how much 95 00:04:48,730 --> 00:04:51,610 the money's gone down. So you said Bitcoin is the real 96 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:54,650 real estate, so. The only property that you can 97 00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:58,410 own and even though I am a proponent of cash boring 98 00:04:58,410 --> 00:05:03,210 businesses such as real estate, I I Bitcoin is, you know, number 99 00:05:03,210 --> 00:05:04,890 one. I have Bitcoin tatted on my 100 00:05:04,890 --> 00:05:06,490 face. That's a that's AB for Bitcoin 101 00:05:06,490 --> 00:05:08,650 on my face. If you didn't know, I got one. 102 00:05:08,890 --> 00:05:10,810 I got one on my. Arms. 103 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,280 Got you. Excellent. 104 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,480 So you know, back in when our parents were growing up, while 105 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,480 I'm in America, so I know you're overseas in Europe, but here in 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,440 America, you know when our parents were growing up, they 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,680 could buy a house for 304050 grand. 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,360 And you know that's because the dollar was so strong back then 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,800 and now the same house is worth $350,000. 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,360 And that's not because of the value of the house going up, 111 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:38,120 it's the value of our dollar and the purchasing power going down. 112 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,740 So that just shows you how much. Inflation has pretty much just 113 00:05:43,940 --> 00:05:46,620 eliminated and annihilated our purchasing power. 114 00:05:46,940 --> 00:05:48,820 And that was the great aha moment for me. 115 00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:51,780 And as well as, you know, the 2008 crisis, I remember that 116 00:05:51,780 --> 00:05:55,220 like it was yesterday because you know, everyone that I know, 117 00:05:55,620 --> 00:05:58,940 when when the banks crashed the Depression, everybody was 118 00:05:58,940 --> 00:06:01,620 hurting. So I remembered, like I 119 00:06:01,620 --> 00:06:04,300 remembered all going through these times with our money and 120 00:06:04,300 --> 00:06:06,380 understanding that they bailed out the banks. 121 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:08,660 But you know, we got the short end of the stick. 122 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,360 And you know, the only way to opt out of the system was to buy 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,080 Bitcoin. And once I figured that out, you 124 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,480 know, I'm a rebel. I'm a rebel. 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,760 Offer it right? And I'm, I'm very defiant. 126 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,360 And like you said, I'm very outspoken. 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,720 So once I understood how we were being screwed by our governments 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,800 and by the money printing, I was like, you know what? 129 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,520 I'm all in. I'm all the way in and how long 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,480 would you say did it take you to go from? 131 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,240 This is a cool investment to to understanding what you just 132 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,120 said. It took me a little bit. 133 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,200 It took me a little bit of time because you do have to do the 134 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,720 work right and you have to learn and you have to go. 135 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,520 I think most people have to go through a bear cycle to 136 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,360 understand it. I actually rode Bitcoin up to 137 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,000 20,000 and all the way back down to 3000 and then I bought more. 138 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,920 I went up to 10K, then went back down to 3000. 139 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,800 So I was actually in the space. That whole time. 140 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,640 And I was just accumulating at that time. 141 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,880 And the great thing is, is in 2017 when we hit that bubble, I 142 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,760 actually started my business. I actually started credit repair 143 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,400 and started to learn about, you know, money and credit in the 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,680 United States. So by the time 2020 came around 145 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,800 before the pandemic, I was still working at a job. 146 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,400 But I was able to understand how credit works in America, and I 147 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,640 was able to get my brother and myself over $100,000. 148 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:36,190 On credit and I bought Bitcoin right before the before on half 149 00:07:36,190 --> 00:07:38,590 and I and I was actually contemplating on whether I 150 00:07:38,590 --> 00:07:43,030 should buy real estate or if I should buy Bitcoin and you know 151 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:45,750 the only reason why real estate is good is again the cash flow 152 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:49,430 and the tax advantages of it. So I know British you know 153 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:51,430 British says if you buy real estate you're stupid. 154 00:07:51,870 --> 00:07:54,990 I, I, I can agree with that but it depends on what your outcome 155 00:07:54,990 --> 00:07:56,510 and what you're trying to accomplish is. 156 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:59,550 So if you're looking to accomplish saving money on 157 00:07:59,550 --> 00:08:01,240 taxes. And if you're looking to 158 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,240 accomplish, you know, cash flow and you're not using your hard 159 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,080 earned money, that's why we use credit. 160 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,120 We use the bank's money to buy assets, that cash flow to pay 161 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,720 back the money, right. So if you're doing that, then 162 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,080 yes, that makes sense. But at that time, instead of me 163 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,080 buying bit, instead of me buying real estate, I took money, I 164 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,240 just bought Bitcoin and I started a business and it was 165 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,680 the best decision I ever made. And from there we went from 166 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,470 three grand. The five grand, the 10 grand, 167 00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:31,150 the 20 grand, $69,000. And you know, the whole time I 168 00:08:31,150 --> 00:08:34,470 was online promoting and telling everybody to buy Bitcoin, 169 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:36,110 telling everybody to buy Bitcoin. 170 00:08:36,110 --> 00:08:39,110 They didn't want to listen. We hopped on me and British and 171 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:43,750 countless other people on the clubhouse room every day, buying 172 00:08:43,750 --> 00:08:47,110 Bitcoin, encouraging people, educating on, educating people 173 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:49,590 on Bitcoin. The wallets, You know, the same 174 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:52,510 dumbass questions every day. What wallet should I get? 175 00:08:52,510 --> 00:08:55,590 What wallet should I get? Should we buy Ethereum? 176 00:08:55,710 --> 00:08:58,070 And, you know, some people have to learn the hard way, you know, 177 00:08:58,070 --> 00:09:01,070 and I did get in the shit coins and I did lose a lot of money 178 00:09:01,390 --> 00:09:03,310 and I did trade and I lost a lot of money. 179 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:06,630 But I feel like everybody, not everybody, but majority of the 180 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:10,670 people need to go through that to understand, you know, what 181 00:09:10,670 --> 00:09:15,430 Bitcoin is and also then what you know why Bitcoin is not 182 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:16,870 crypto. Of course. 183 00:09:16,910 --> 00:09:19,670 And yeah, I think that's great. I love. 184 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:22,550 I have a few things that like speak my mind. 185 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:27,250 I love that everyone says you have to do the work, right. 186 00:09:27,250 --> 00:09:29,890 That's what. What is the work? 187 00:09:30,130 --> 00:09:33,130 What is the work like? What is Is that like learning 188 00:09:33,130 --> 00:09:37,170 and unlearning? Challenging yourself like? 189 00:09:37,530 --> 00:09:39,410 You hit the nail. What would you say is the word? 190 00:09:39,410 --> 00:09:40,610 You hit the nail right on the head. 191 00:09:40,610 --> 00:09:44,650 It's unlearning and relearning because everything that we 192 00:09:44,650 --> 00:09:46,770 taught is a lie. And I actually learned that. 193 00:09:46,770 --> 00:09:49,290 I actually learned that at a young age by watching, you know, 194 00:09:49,570 --> 00:09:52,050 zeitgeist and all these other videos and you know. 195 00:09:52,430 --> 00:09:55,030 The the conspiracy theories that they call people crazy, right, 196 00:09:55,030 --> 00:09:57,110 They're not crazy. Conspiracy theories are more 197 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:59,430 closer than the truth and what we're being told. 198 00:09:59,870 --> 00:10:02,870 So I learned that our society and everything that we learned, 199 00:10:03,390 --> 00:10:06,030 you know, was a lie. So I had to unlearn. 200 00:10:06,830 --> 00:10:08,630 You know, we're taught that credit is bad. 201 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:12,550 We're taught that, you know, buy everything in cash. 202 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:15,790 We're taught, we're taught to buy a home and get a 30 year 203 00:10:15,790 --> 00:10:17,750 mortgage. Even though you pay the mortgage 204 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:20,070 off, you pay the house off damn near three times. 205 00:10:21,150 --> 00:10:23,270 And if you don't know how money works or you don't know that 206 00:10:23,270 --> 00:10:24,990 you're supposed to buy investments to pay for your 207 00:10:24,990 --> 00:10:27,790 liabilities, you know you're just going to continue to do 208 00:10:27,790 --> 00:10:30,230 what everybody's been doing for the last, you know, century, 209 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:33,670 right, in America. So you have to unlearn all the 210 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:38,190 brainwashing, all the what would be the correct terminology for 211 00:10:38,190 --> 00:10:43,550 that? It would be well, you start 212 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:45,390 thinking for yourself in a sense, absolutely. 213 00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:49,450 The condition like really. You have to start thinking for 214 00:10:49,450 --> 00:10:52,130 yourself and you know, most people aren't ready to to do 215 00:10:52,130 --> 00:10:57,290 that, unfortunately. So when you try to Orange Bill, 216 00:10:57,290 --> 00:11:02,130 people like what's what's the biggest, I want to say pushback? 217 00:11:02,130 --> 00:11:05,130 You get, but more like, I don't know if pushback is the word 218 00:11:05,170 --> 00:11:08,250 like, I like the hesitancy, right? 219 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:12,170 Like, I think with Bitcoin, there's a lot of things that you 220 00:11:12,170 --> 00:11:15,810 can like logically explain, you know, like, oh, the financial 221 00:11:15,810 --> 00:11:18,530 system works like a but that doesn't really make sense 222 00:11:18,530 --> 00:11:20,610 because etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, right. 223 00:11:20,610 --> 00:11:23,330 But then that is just what it is, right? 224 00:11:23,330 --> 00:11:27,410 It's not even your opinion. You're just sharing how you have 225 00:11:27,410 --> 00:11:29,930 understood, you know, that it now works. 226 00:11:30,970 --> 00:11:33,930 But in my experience, like a lot of people think like oh, whoa, 227 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:37,570 holy, holy moly, you know, like that that's that's really 228 00:11:37,770 --> 00:11:40,250 confronting my current beliefs, right. 229 00:11:40,650 --> 00:11:45,180 And so they they kind of get on a defense in a sense like what's 230 00:11:45,180 --> 00:11:47,220 your, what's your experience there like how do, how do you 231 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:53,780 mitigate that or try? And I'm very, like, I'm very 232 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:57,100 brash and I used to be way more like aggressive and way more 233 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:58,500 brash. So I've toned it down a lot, 234 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:03,140 trust me. But you know, I've to to. 235 00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:05,220 I usually just give them Bitcoin, right? 236 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:07,820 And the biggest pushback I get is the unit bias. 237 00:12:07,820 --> 00:12:10,020 They think, oh, I have to buy a Bitcoin. 238 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,880 I don't have $30,000. I don't have 20,000. 239 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,600 I don't have 10,000. I don't have 5000. 240 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,960 They don't have nothing, right. A lot of people don't have 241 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,360 anything, unfortunately. But This is why I I talk the way 242 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,680 I talk because for me it's just an excuse. 243 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,480 But I feel like it's the education that needs to be done 244 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,240 first. However, you know if they buy 245 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,300 stock that they buy. If they buy stocks, then they 246 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:37,220 should have an idea about investing. 247 00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:38,620 And a lot of people don't buy stocks. 248 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:41,780 There's a very, very small percentage of people that are 249 00:12:41,780 --> 00:12:44,860 investing in the in the middle class. 250 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,340 So I would usually just give them Bitcoin, right? 251 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:48,860 I say, hey, it's 10 bucks free Bitcoin. 252 00:12:48,860 --> 00:12:51,060 Hey, watch it go up and down. Watch it go up and down. 253 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:53,700 And a lot of people also got burned, right? 254 00:12:53,780 --> 00:12:55,420 A lot of people got scammed, right. 255 00:12:55,860 --> 00:12:58,980 A lot of people bought Dogecoin, Toshiba. 256 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,280 A lot of people buy Bitcoin and they send it to somebody else 257 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,160 that sends them Adm and says they can make their, they can 258 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,840 turn their 500 bucks into $10,000 in a week. 259 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,880 So you know a lot of people got scammed that way. 260 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,400 So they're turned off to the space. 261 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,160 They lost money with like I said Dogecoin because the Elon. 262 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,920 So they're turned off to the space and they don't even really 263 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,120 want to hear it, you know, at the end of the, at the end of 264 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,280 the day, however, you know, once I give them some free Bitcoin 265 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,810 and I say, hey, inflation. Is real because I I tell them, 266 00:13:28,810 --> 00:13:30,930 hey, you know the gas, how much is gas now? 267 00:13:31,490 --> 00:13:35,450 How much is your groceries now? You know the same $20 bill is 268 00:13:35,450 --> 00:13:37,730 not buying as much. And I just try to explain it to 269 00:13:37,730 --> 00:13:41,330 them in that way, Educate them. Sometimes they push back, 270 00:13:41,330 --> 00:13:42,730 sometimes they don't. They get it. 271 00:13:42,730 --> 00:13:45,610 They a lot of a lot of a lot of times it doesn't click for them. 272 00:13:45,610 --> 00:13:48,330 You know, it still doesn't click even though I give these 273 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:50,450 examples. So that's why I just give them 274 00:13:50,450 --> 00:13:53,450 the Bitcoin and you know, they watch it grow. 275 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:55,890 And then they. And then you know when, when 276 00:13:55,890 --> 00:13:58,210 it's their time, everybody buys Bitcoin at the price they 277 00:13:58,210 --> 00:14:00,570 deserve. So if they don't get it after I 278 00:14:00,570 --> 00:14:03,050 explain it to them, I've done my job. 279 00:14:05,090 --> 00:14:09,730 I think it's an interesting like team that's coming back in this 280 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:19,290 podcast Now you're my 7th guest and everyone kind of mentions 281 00:14:19,290 --> 00:14:22,050 the same and it's starting to dawn on me more and more. 282 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:25,220 Like we should ask more questions, you know, kind of 283 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:27,580 like less explaining, more asking questions. 284 00:14:27,580 --> 00:14:32,860 Because it also took you and me as well like a while to actually 285 00:14:32,860 --> 00:14:35,220 understand why does this thing exist, right? 286 00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:39,900 And why this exists, is this exists is because there's a 287 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,660 problem with, you know, how good the money is. 288 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:50,350 And most people don't know that. So they first have to know, then 289 00:14:50,350 --> 00:14:53,470 they have to understand, right? And then they have to understand 290 00:14:53,470 --> 00:14:55,390 also. And Bitcoin is just really hard 291 00:14:55,390 --> 00:14:58,390 to understand. I think still you know that that 292 00:14:58,390 --> 00:15:00,670 is a possible solution, right? So there's like 3 steps. 293 00:15:00,670 --> 00:15:04,150 And usually, you know, we begin somewhere within these three 294 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:09,710 steps, we begin to, we begin to talk, you know, But I think I 295 00:15:09,710 --> 00:15:12,350 think a lot of people realize later on, like, OK, I know it. 296 00:15:12,350 --> 00:15:14,310 I believe in it. I think everyone should have it, 297 00:15:14,310 --> 00:15:16,420 you know, like, I think, you know, you know, even like what 298 00:15:16,420 --> 00:15:18,660 you say, like if you use strong language or you're a bit 299 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:21,420 aggressive, like, it's just because you know and you love 300 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,380 these other people, right? And you just want them to know 301 00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:27,220 as well, right? Like, I, I, I think and I 302 00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:29,140 experienced the same. It's like a very altruistic 303 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:30,940 feeling because I think like, I'm good. 304 00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:33,420 You're probably good, you know, Like you just want other people 305 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:40,230 to understand as well, right? And that is just what takes over 306 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:45,070 this kind of like enthusiastic talking type way while you 307 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:48,270 actually have to just be really chill and just ask questions 308 00:15:48,270 --> 00:15:52,030 like do you think it's OK to to pay five times more for your 309 00:15:52,030 --> 00:15:59,110 cucumber or your bread or your, you know, whatever you buy buy 310 00:15:59,110 --> 00:16:01,870 in the store right over the over the years and then explain like 311 00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:04,350 OK like then you have like a little thread that you can 312 00:16:04,350 --> 00:16:10,110 basically pull from and just you know start answering questions 313 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:12,470 hopefully there, right. Absolutely. 314 00:16:12,990 --> 00:16:16,950 I think you're absolutely right. Asking questions and letting 315 00:16:16,950 --> 00:16:18,710 them kind of figure it out for themselves. 316 00:16:20,110 --> 00:16:23,430 Like you said, it's it's not, it's not that I'm that we're 317 00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:24,750 brash, right or we're aggressive. 318 00:16:24,750 --> 00:16:27,830 It's we're passionate, right? And some people make mistake in 319 00:16:27,830 --> 00:16:31,590 our passion for, you know, being rude or being aggressive or 320 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:34,430 being brash, right. And maybe sometimes it's both 321 00:16:34,430 --> 00:16:35,750 right. Maybe sometimes people are just. 322 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,120 Idiots, right? So a lot of people are stupid, 323 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,520 right? So we have to keep that in mind 324 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,280 too. A lot of people are just stupid. 325 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,440 So at the same time, it's like a balance, right? 326 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,160 We have to find that balance, yeah. 327 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Well, sometimes I think like, is it because I also know a lot of 328 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,880 super intelligent people that also don't want to get it right. 329 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,430 So sometimes I think, like, it's not really about intelligence. 330 00:17:00,430 --> 00:17:03,470 It's really about, you know, do you have the capability of 331 00:17:03,470 --> 00:17:07,630 challenging your beliefs, right. And think that think like when 332 00:17:07,630 --> 00:17:11,430 someone tells you like, oh, well, the government influenced 333 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:14,550 the money, influences the money in a very bad way, and the 334 00:17:14,550 --> 00:17:16,390 consequences are on the citizens. 335 00:17:16,390 --> 00:17:18,790 You know, like when you say that, even now when I say it, I 336 00:17:18,790 --> 00:17:22,109 feel like that sounds very bad, right? 337 00:17:22,109 --> 00:17:25,940 So it's and it's just hard for people to believe because 338 00:17:25,940 --> 00:17:29,220 they've maybe they think like well if I would be in charge, I 339 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:31,900 would ever do that, right. So I cannot imagine that someone 340 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:35,100 else would do that. But it's not really in this not 341 00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:38,660 my opinion what I just said. It's just how it works, right. 342 00:17:38,660 --> 00:17:42,300 So there's not really there's it's not really a discussion 343 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:43,580 point. It's kind of like, you know, 344 00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:47,060 here's the fact. But if you are not able to well, 345 00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:50,460 receive the fact that fact and then kind of like integrate it 346 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:54,670 and challenge what you thought was true, yeah, then it's it's a 347 00:17:54,670 --> 00:17:56,110 really tough conversation. Right. 348 00:17:56,110 --> 00:17:59,950 Absolutely. A lot of like, you're absolutely 349 00:17:59,950 --> 00:18:01,470 right. A lot of, a lot of very 350 00:18:01,470 --> 00:18:05,870 intelligent people or we would say they're intelligent, right. 351 00:18:05,870 --> 00:18:10,790 Maybe because they have a degree or that they went to Harvard or 352 00:18:11,030 --> 00:18:14,110 their economic, their economic, they went to school for 353 00:18:14,110 --> 00:18:18,070 economics and they know how this system works. 354 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:21,630 And you know, the bankers people on TV, you know? 355 00:18:22,780 --> 00:18:27,220 The newscasters, you know, they all, It's crazy how they know 356 00:18:27,220 --> 00:18:33,340 nothing about what we know. And I feel like bitcoiners are 357 00:18:33,340 --> 00:18:36,180 some of the smartest people on the planet, because we really 358 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:40,260 are, in my opinion. And it takes, it definitely 359 00:18:40,260 --> 00:18:42,700 takes a lot of self reflection. It's really, it's really a 360 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:44,340 mirror to yourself and to your soul. 361 00:18:44,340 --> 00:18:46,420 Like you said, you have to challenge yourself and what 362 00:18:46,420 --> 00:18:50,980 you've been told, and even if you, even if you disagree. 363 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,800 You still need to, you know, check out that information to 364 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,880 verify a different point of view. 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,200 And that's why also Bitcoin Maximus are very mentally, 366 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,560 mentally intelligent people. Because you know, there's 367 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Bitcoin SV, there's Bitcoin Cash, there's shit corners 368 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,960 selling you shit coins all the time. 369 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 There's there's that doubt, right, that comes into your mind 370 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,160 like Oh my God is, is Bitcoin really going to be the real 371 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Bitcoin? Is there another going to be 372 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,740 another Bitcoin or? You know just all these 373 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:26,540 different attacks and self doubts and you know shit corners 374 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:30,780 and the economy and people, the news and just so many ways that 375 00:19:30,780 --> 00:19:34,140 you're being attacked that's going to test your test your 376 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:37,220 conviction and test your faith and test your knowledge. 377 00:19:37,420 --> 00:19:39,580 And if you don't know what you're talking about, you're not 378 00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:42,620 going to be a Bitcoin Mexican and you're just going to fall 379 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:45,180 when right And probably get scammed and you're probably 380 00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:49,100 going to buy Shiva Inu and get and get rug pulled or you're 381 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:52,050 probably going to buy. Does coin because Elon tweeted 382 00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:56,410 it at $0.70 and then get rug pulled and then you're back to 383 00:19:56,410 --> 00:19:58,450 square one? You either turned away from 384 00:19:58,450 --> 00:20:01,330 crypto in general, or then you become a Bitcoin maxi. 385 00:20:03,890 --> 00:20:06,330 So what? What do you think is like the 386 00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:12,050 biggest hidden thing or risk in like the traditional financial 387 00:20:12,050 --> 00:20:16,090 system that most people don't know or or that they overlook? 388 00:20:17,210 --> 00:20:18,770 That when you put your money in the bank. 389 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,600 It's no longer your money. Also, saving money is probably 390 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,040 the dumbest thing that people can do. 391 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,560 And rich people don't save money, which, you know, I just 392 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,640 shared a video about that as well and I've been saying that 393 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,600 forever too. But you know, I think the 394 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,440 biggest thing people overlook is when they put their money into 395 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,800 the bank, it's not your money anymore. 396 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,840 They lend that money out to investors such as myself and 397 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,480 other real estate agents and you know, other business people as 398 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,830 well and. But again, fractional reserve 399 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:49,390 banking. You know, they lend that money 400 00:20:49,390 --> 00:20:52,510 out 10 times, You put $100 in, they can loan out 1000. 401 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:56,670 And then again, if you save money in the bank with inflation 402 00:20:56,670 --> 00:20:58,630 going on, you know, what are you saving your money for? 403 00:20:58,630 --> 00:21:00,670 Just sitting there losing money. You're supposed to make your 404 00:21:00,670 --> 00:21:02,630 money work. Of course you want to have, you 405 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:05,870 know, maybe a rainy day fund. That's different from the 406 00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:07,630 savings account, right? Because you're savings. 407 00:21:07,950 --> 00:21:09,870 What are you saving for? You should be. 408 00:21:09,910 --> 00:21:11,710 Your money should be working for you. 409 00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:14,670 Because if you don't, you're not going to beat inflation. 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,520 The best savings account is giving you .001% or .1% or even 411 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,560 1%, right? In a whole year. 412 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:27,560 Bitcoin is up 100%, almost 100% in less than a year. 413 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,320 So people don't even do simple math. 414 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,320 In American, people are just, you know, slow like that. 415 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,320 I don't know why, but. Or they just want security, 416 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,520 right? It's not about being slow. 417 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,560 They're more secure, right? Because Bitcoin fluctuates. 418 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,640 They're more at the more depth and, you know, just be secure. 419 00:21:44,610 --> 00:21:50,650 So they want to be safe and when you play it safe you're going to 420 00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:54,330 get. And does this also tie into. 421 00:21:54,330 --> 00:21:57,730 I saw you shared I think, I don't know I think in your 422 00:21:57,730 --> 00:22:00,770 Instagram like people, people pay too much for their homes. 423 00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:06,530 Like you just also said like can you explain it how mortgage 424 00:22:06,530 --> 00:22:10,090 works like actually works And maybe a funny story like why 425 00:22:10,090 --> 00:22:13,050 also I started this podcast or how I got into Bitcoin. 426 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,200 I was 30 and I had a mortgage and I was working at a bank mind 427 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,360 you. And I talked to I talked to a 428 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:27,640 colleague and he said, did you know that the money in the bank 429 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,000 is not yours? And I said sorry what? 430 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,360 And then we had a conversation for an hour and then he 431 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:41,310 explained to me how it worked. And then I was like, OK, I feel 432 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:44,390 like an idiot, like I'm participating in this system, 433 00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:48,790 but I have no clue. And I also had a mortgage. 434 00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:51,350 And I knew, you know, you pay interest on your mortgage, 435 00:22:51,390 --> 00:22:54,950 etcetera. But actually what wasn't that 436 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:59,230 bad with me because I had a really low like rate, but let's 437 00:22:59,230 --> 00:23:04,590 say on a, yeah, $100,000 mortgage, you probably pay like 438 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:12,070 135 ish on 100,000. So you pay like 30% more, 40% 439 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:15,350 more. And I see your face maybe it's 440 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:21,750 more well, but still, but still. But still, you know, I think the 441 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:25,910 questions is like, OK, that's apparently the reward that a 442 00:23:25,910 --> 00:23:29,190 bank, you know earns because they give you the money for that 443 00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:32,730 amount of time. So apparently it's how it works. 444 00:23:32,730 --> 00:23:35,770 But I think there's a lot of things with Bitcoin and then 445 00:23:36,090 --> 00:23:38,650 I'll let you answer like there's a lot of things that are like 446 00:23:38,970 --> 00:23:43,250 with Bitcoin, so many things in the traditional financial system 447 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:47,570 kind of sound stupid, right? Like what I just said, like if I 448 00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:51,330 if I borrow 100K and I have to pay 130 hundred 40 over for 449 00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:55,970 this, like, is that justified? Maybe it is, I don't know. 450 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:57,490 But like, it's not really explained. 451 00:23:57,490 --> 00:23:59,290 It's just like this is how it works. 452 00:23:59,650 --> 00:24:01,480 Do you want it or don't you want it? 453 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,880 You know, there's just like a yes or a no. 454 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,240 But you you don't. You just don't understand. 455 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600 But you still do it right? Absolutely. 456 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,440 And I was saying, yeah, I made the face because like I said, I 457 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,440 think that's pretty good because here in America, you know, 458 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,560 interest rates now are a little bit higher now. 459 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,840 So they're about 8-9 percent. The example that I tweeted out 460 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,200 was I think was a four or 3% interest rate and at a three or 461 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,800 four interest rate over 30 years. 462 00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:33,060 Again you're paying for the house damn near 3 times. 463 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:37,100 Literally damn near 3 times, like 2 1/2 times. 464 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:41,460 So there's ways to mitigate that by you know making extra 465 00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:46,500 payments each month or each quarter to pay down you know 466 00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:49,740 that interest or go directly to, you know principal cause a 467 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:52,540 majority of your payments like you said go to straight interest 468 00:24:52,540 --> 00:24:55,260 only. So you know especially those 469 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:58,220 first couple years, I think it's the 1st 10 years of your 470 00:24:58,220 --> 00:24:59,900 mortgage go straight to interest, so. 471 00:25:00,910 --> 00:25:03,270 If you don't, most people don't know and they don't care. 472 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:06,670 And you know, real estate agents don't tell you that. 473 00:25:06,670 --> 00:25:09,590 Mortgage brokers don't tell you that like you said and you just 474 00:25:09,630 --> 00:25:12,310 you just into it. And unfortunately, that's the 475 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:15,550 way to Cookie Crump. And So what is wealth for you 476 00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:22,070 then? Wealth is great question to me. 477 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:26,470 Bitcoin as well, right? Bitcoin is so many different 478 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:29,040 things, right? And for me, wealth is Bitcoin 479 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,280 because Bitcoin is going to be able to be passed down to 480 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,520 generations and generation. And as the generations receive 481 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,840 that Bitcoin right, and we educate them on Bitcoin, it's 482 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,480 going to be abundantly worth more, infinitely worth more as 483 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,560 the generations grow, go on. So for me, wealth is just being 484 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,000 able to have freedom and not being able to, not being, not 485 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 being tied to the system and being able to do what you want 486 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,560 when you want. And you know, being able to pass 487 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,800 that, that generational wealth, which is that freedom down to, 488 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:08,080 you know, your kids, your kids and your kids, kids, does that 489 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,720 tie into like, I like what saved Dina most? 490 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,240 When he talks about like prioritizing, I think he says 491 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,320 something like future security over over present happiness, 492 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,000 like short term, short term time preference, like short time 493 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280 preference versus long time preference. 494 00:26:27,870 --> 00:26:31,230 What do you think about that? I I actually use that analogy as 495 00:26:31,230 --> 00:26:33,230 well with my credit repair program. 496 00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:35,430 And you can use that with a lot of things in life, right. 497 00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:39,230 If you go to the gym, you know you're not going to, you go to 498 00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:41,590 the gym one day, you're not going to see results. 499 00:26:41,950 --> 00:26:44,070 You know you're probably going to have to if you want to get, 500 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:47,270 depends depending on you know your diet and what you're 501 00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:49,630 looking to accomplish. You're probably going to have to 502 00:26:49,630 --> 00:26:54,070 be consistent in the gym six months to a year if you want to, 503 00:26:55,310 --> 00:26:57,260 if you want to. Build wealth. 504 00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:59,980 It's not something that's done, you know, in one year, two 505 00:26:59,980 --> 00:27:01,700 years. It's a long term game, it's a 506 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:03,620 long term goal, it's a long term game. 507 00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:07,380 So you know, absolutely you got to, you have to think about the 508 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:09,460 future. And I think once, once I had a 509 00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:12,460 child and I know you have kids as well, once you have kids, it 510 00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:16,820 it kind of clicks for you and a lot of people you know now are 511 00:27:16,820 --> 00:27:19,700 not having kids due to financial reasons, which I can understand 512 00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,610 why. But I think a lot of people 513 00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:25,730 don't that don't have children are not, they don't really care 514 00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:29,530 about the future because they're they're trying to make it, make 515 00:27:29,530 --> 00:27:32,770 it them trying to make it through, you know, the day or 516 00:27:32,770 --> 00:27:34,050 the week. Because a lot of people look 517 00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:37,290 paycheck to paycheck And you know when when they're in that 518 00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:39,530 survival mode, they don't. They don't want to think. 519 00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:42,890 They don't have the capacity to think about the future because 520 00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:45,090 they're trying to survive, you know, week to week or 521 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:49,090 day-to-day. Do you think that's also then 522 00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:52,480 why we talked a bit about the rappers impressing us with all 523 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,240 the stuff they buy, right? Like, is that also why people 524 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,240 are like attracted to that, like that they think they also need 525 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320 stuff and then they start buying stuff, right? 526 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,160 Like I talked about that this in the previous episode as well 527 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,120 like that because the money is kind of broken and people have 528 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:14,800 like this. Therefore also this short time 529 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,560 preference, they spend it on stupid stuff basically. 530 00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:27,540 I think it has a lot to do with self worth and you know, maybe 531 00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:31,180 the brain. Yeah, I think it's really about 532 00:28:31,180 --> 00:28:34,100 self worth and the conditioning and programming of the of the 533 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,380 youth. I think if we were taught better 534 00:28:36,380 --> 00:28:39,940 things and you know, listen to you know, different things 535 00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:42,780 growing up, we wouldn't have that need. 536 00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:45,860 But I also think it's it. It's again. 537 00:28:46,270 --> 00:28:48,510 A lot of people don't have self worth in themselves, so they 538 00:28:48,510 --> 00:28:50,870 look for things to buy. That's going to validate them, 539 00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:53,190 not knowing that it's not going to validate them in the long 540 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:56,470 run. Yeah, What's like by other 541 00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:58,150 people you mean then? Absolutely. 542 00:28:59,710 --> 00:29:03,150 I also, and that's exactly why, you know, and again I used to 543 00:29:03,150 --> 00:29:05,590 you know, little Wayne and we all know little Wayne. 544 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:09,350 Snoop Dogg, we all listen to, you know all those people. 545 00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:12,270 But you know what? Are they really when you? 546 00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:15,460 When I listen to like, some of the that music now, now that 547 00:29:15,460 --> 00:29:18,180 I'm. I'm 34, so now that I listen to 548 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:20,300 some of that music, I'm like, yo, we used to listen to this. 549 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:22,180 Like, you're used to say something. 550 00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:24,660 Yeah. When I was 16, I'm like, I would 551 00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:27,260 not let my son listen to that at all. 552 00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:29,460 Thinking about Lil Wayne. Amelie. 553 00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:33,780 Amelie, Amelie. So you know when they buy, you 554 00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:36,740 know cars and they say buy everything cash and you know 555 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:40,340 they're talking about women and you know drugs and. 556 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:44,350 All that stuff, all all that stuff is everything is a net 557 00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:47,950 negative like it's a negative. There's nothing positive that 558 00:29:47,950 --> 00:29:49,630 comes from listening to that music. 559 00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:53,750 I guess besides the hustler hustlers mentality right in the 560 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:55,830 hustle and you know to get money right. 561 00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:58,430 But if you're getting that money and you're spending it right, 562 00:29:58,430 --> 00:30:02,590 because the, the, the saying is I'm going to get money and get 563 00:30:02,590 --> 00:30:05,190 money fast and blow it fast, right, and get it, I'm going to 564 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:07,710 get it and blow it in because I'll make it right back like. 565 00:30:08,650 --> 00:30:09,930 That's not the way to think about money. 566 00:30:09,970 --> 00:30:11,570 So that's actually pretty dumb, right? 567 00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:14,250 It's funny. It's like, Oh my goodness. 568 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:19,650 But but I I want to touch upon this like I love rap music. 569 00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:23,130 Like I was, AI was, AI was. I was like a village boy. 570 00:30:23,130 --> 00:30:25,210 Who doesn't. I was like a village, like a 571 00:30:25,210 --> 00:30:27,570 white village boy with 1000 people in the village. 572 00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:28,970 I was just listening to rap. All day. 573 00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:31,970 So it's not this is not like to to to diss the rappers, but I 574 00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:34,930 find it so interesting that like also what you said, like it 575 00:30:34,930 --> 00:30:36,890 influences culture so much, right? 576 00:30:36,890 --> 00:30:42,010 And this showing off. But I don't know now that we're 577 00:30:42,010 --> 00:30:44,170 talking about it's like some stuff just really doesn't make 578 00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:45,170 sense. Like it's not cool. 579 00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:47,210 It's actually fucking stupid. If you make a lot of money and 580 00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:49,290 you blow it all like it's. Very dumb, right? 581 00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:53,210 Buying a Car, But why? As soon as you the stupid. 582 00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:55,170 Also weird. Stupidest thing you can do is to 583 00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:55,810 buy a car. Car. 584 00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:59,610 And I say this and I say this, and you know, I say so much that 585 00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:01,050 it probably gets lost in the tweets, right? 586 00:31:01,050 --> 00:31:02,530 It gets lost in the post. It gets lost. 587 00:31:02,530 --> 00:31:04,290 Yeah, yeah. But you know, the dumbest thing 588 00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:06,930 you can do is to buy a car cash. First of all, when you buy a 589 00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:08,930 car, cash. As soon as you drive it off the 590 00:31:08,930 --> 00:31:10,730 lot, it loses value. Yeah, yeah. 591 00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:12,770 Second of all, I think of a little baby. 592 00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:15,290 A little baby. I spent 500 wrecks on a Lambo 593 00:31:15,290 --> 00:31:17,170 and didn't even know how to make them a fucker go. 594 00:31:18,130 --> 00:31:22,970 Thinking about that I. Mean Sorry. 595 00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:24,370 Finish your sentence. No, no, you're good. 596 00:31:24,370 --> 00:31:25,810 You're absolutely this is a good subject. 597 00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:27,770 I I I think this is a good subject. 598 00:31:27,770 --> 00:31:28,930 It's so interesting. Like why? 599 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:33,210 But why is that so? Logically, it's kind of stupid 600 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:36,850 to follow that advice, right? But it does influence like 601 00:31:36,850 --> 00:31:37,850 society in a sense. Right? 602 00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:38,810 Like and even. Like. 603 00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:42,890 Of course I I observe America from a distance, right? 604 00:31:42,890 --> 00:31:45,480 Like Twitter. But like, I see these videos of 605 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,880 people in the club, They are like buying crystal or 606 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,680 champagne. They're pouring it like they're 607 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,920 pouring it. Empty to battle like they buy 608 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,520 it. It's like $300.00, right? 609 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Because can you, can you elaborate on that? 610 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,840 Like do you know what's going on there? 611 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,200 Like why is that? Is that a thing? 612 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,000 I don't know. The reason why? 613 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,280 Yeah, it's it's oh man, it's a it's a great topic. 614 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,520 It's a great subject and like you're saying and it's it's the 615 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,520 culture and I think it's if we want to get, I think it's more 616 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,730 of a spiritual thing. I believe in God and I believe 617 00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:18,330 in, you know, I believe that there are forces out here that's 618 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:23,330 going to, that's trying to, you know, sway the youth and they've 619 00:32:23,330 --> 00:32:28,050 done a good job. And I think that when you buy a 620 00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:31,690 $50 bottle of alcohol in the club for $300.00 and then you 621 00:32:31,690 --> 00:32:33,810 pour it out and then you buy another one and then you pour it 622 00:32:33,810 --> 00:32:35,690 out and then you throw money, right? 623 00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:37,530 And then you're throwing money in there and making it rain, 624 00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:40,010 right? Unless you're a smart business 625 00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:41,410 person and you're writing that off. 626 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,520 That makes sense, right? Like networking expense or what? 627 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,960 Like what do you? Which I hope they're doing, 628 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,360 because that would be stupid to tell. 629 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,160 If they're not, that would be great. 630 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,320 Or marketing? Market expenses in the sense 631 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,160 someone films it. Absolutely. 632 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,200 That makes Teach the man preach this, please. 633 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,160 Yeah, that makes sense if you're doing that as a marketing sense. 634 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,160 And if you're like an upcoming rapper and artist and you're 635 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,280 doing that, you can also, you can also write that off as an 636 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,960 expense. You should have an LLC. 637 00:33:09,250 --> 00:33:12,010 You should be operating as a business in general and you 638 00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:13,730 should put your car in the business, right. 639 00:33:13,730 --> 00:33:16,090 And that way it's a write off and that way you say taxes and 640 00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:21,570 you know that you know all that good stuff, but you know it's 641 00:33:21,570 --> 00:33:24,850 really just the influence and into into you know, get the 642 00:33:24,850 --> 00:33:26,970 youth lost. Because again, if you're if 643 00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:29,650 you're drinking all this alcohol, you're smoking weed. 644 00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:32,210 I used to smoke weed and there's nothing wrong with smoking weed, 645 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:33,650 right? You can smoke weed if you want. 646 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:36,530 I don't anymore. I used to smoke since I was 14 647 00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:40,450 and I actually quit this year. Because I didn't want to smoke 648 00:33:40,450 --> 00:33:43,410 anymore. And that's fine if you smoke. 649 00:33:43,410 --> 00:33:44,650 I know I'm not hating. No smokers. 650 00:33:44,650 --> 00:33:46,930 I used to smoke all the time. I love weed, but you know, I 651 00:33:46,930 --> 00:33:49,770 stopped. But if you're drinking it, it, 652 00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:51,890 it impairs your decision making, right? 653 00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:55,050 Then you're smoking weed, right? And then you're popping pills, 654 00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:56,770 right? And then you're drinking lean, 655 00:33:56,770 --> 00:33:57,810 right? Because this is all the things 656 00:33:57,810 --> 00:34:00,650 that they promote, right? And they make it look cool. 657 00:34:01,310 --> 00:34:06,830 So all the kids that are 12131415161718192021, they're 658 00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:08,870 seeing you guys doing, they look up to you. 659 00:34:09,070 --> 00:34:11,909 So now they think it's cool and now they're drinking and 660 00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:14,590 driving, popping pills, all this crazy stuff. 661 00:34:14,989 --> 00:34:18,230 It's a net negative, man. And it's really just to sway and 662 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:21,590 to, you know, get our children lost, man. 663 00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:24,989 And you know, ever since I I had a child and you know, ever since 664 00:34:24,989 --> 00:34:28,150 I've come to that realization, man, I call out rappers all the 665 00:34:28,150 --> 00:34:28,909 time. I used to call out. 666 00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:33,679 Meek Mill used to call out. Soulja Boy, I used to call. 667 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,360 I have to call out anybody. You know, all rappers, you know, 668 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,400 in general, But you know, Meek Mill would be online talking 669 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,239 about those coin and all these crazies. 670 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,760 I'm like, bro, stop it. You're going to get everybody 671 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,199 wrecked. And he got everybody wrecked. 672 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,360 And So what? Last thing about this, when I 673 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,480 talked to British huddle huddle in the in the first episode of 674 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,120 the podcast, he said something about you know like everything 675 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,600 bad or everything also bad with like culture, societies like 676 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400 downstream from the money. Is this also then like one 677 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,040 example of that in a sense like the broken? 678 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Yeah, How do you say like the broken example basically for the 679 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,880 youth? Let me think about that for a 680 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,960 second. It could that, could that be, I 681 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,760 don't think. I don't think that's because of 682 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,040 the money. I think that's a moral and 683 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:36,600 spiritual attack you know, which leads into the money and I think 684 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,800 the money is is a part of it but I don't think it's because of 685 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,120 the money. I think it's really a spiritual 686 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,520 attack and a again it it's something to just pretty much 687 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,440 destroy our our community and the kids right and the lead us 688 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,760 on the on on the wrong path. So I don't think it's the money. 689 00:35:55,330 --> 00:36:00,090 For say at this, I just think it's like what? 690 00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:07,330 Like the evil, evil powers that be right They And so yeah, they 691 00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:08,810 don't want you to win. They don't want you to win. 692 00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:14,970 So how does Bitcoin then change your thinking? 693 00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:17,370 Like what topics does it touch for you? 694 00:36:20,290 --> 00:36:23,050 It changed my thinking because as we just talked about it. 695 00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:28,270 I went from thinking about, you know, buying Louis Vuitton, 696 00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:31,390 Gucci, you know, being being a rapper myself, you know, I used 697 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:34,150 to, you know, I like, I like nice things and it's nothing 698 00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:37,670 wrong with buying nice things as long as you can afford it, 699 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:40,670 right? But I think the way to go about 700 00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:47,150 this is to 1st buy assets or start a business and then you 701 00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:49,550 know, then you can buy all your toys, right? 702 00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:52,890 And it changed my thinking. I'm buying. 703 00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:54,890 I don't even go shopping like that anymore. 704 00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:57,050 If I shop now, it's for my kids, it's for my girl. 705 00:36:57,650 --> 00:37:00,170 It's, you know, I really don't buy anything for me. 706 00:37:02,050 --> 00:37:06,210 So it changed my mindset on, you know, buying frivolous and 707 00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:08,090 stupid things, right? So now I don't buy. 708 00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:11,610 I don't buy anything that I don't really even think that I 709 00:37:11,610 --> 00:37:13,450 want. I'm like, do I really want this? 710 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,880 And even my girl, I'm like, do I buy more? 711 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,040 Bitcoin, even my girl. I'm like, you know, we should 712 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,000 have just bought some more Bitcoin instead of going out 713 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,680 tonight. But you know, I love taking my 714 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,320 girl out and whatnot, but besides that, man, I don't buy 715 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,960 anything for me. Honestly, it's very 716 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,920 recognizable, Like I got some nice watches and I have 20 pairs 717 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,600 of sneakers, but now I live like a monk. 718 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,560 Almost like very frugal. You know, but it's it's really 719 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,720 about I, I, I, I have the same faults. 720 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:45,230 Like do I want to buy this or. Yeah, like why do I actually 721 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:47,110 want to buy this? You know, like I start thinking 722 00:37:47,110 --> 00:37:50,310 like what to do what? Like do I need another dis or 723 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:53,830 another dad? But yeah, it's interesting. 724 00:37:53,830 --> 00:37:56,270 I also really like what you just said about just like this 725 00:37:56,270 --> 00:38:01,130 spiritual part. Like I I feel the same actually. 726 00:38:01,130 --> 00:38:03,610 I like another episode with Mark. 727 00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:06,250 We talked about this like the spiritual journey into into 728 00:38:06,250 --> 00:38:08,930 Bitcoin like well, what what can you share about that? 729 00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:12,610 Because you mentioned it a few times and I I it's funny like 730 00:38:12,610 --> 00:38:14,810 you're the 7th guest. But I see so many overlap 731 00:38:14,810 --> 00:38:18,490 between like the journey people have from doing the work but 732 00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:21,290 also seeing the spiritual part and challenging yourself and 733 00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:23,170 letting go of certain beliefs and stuff. 734 00:38:23,170 --> 00:38:27,250 So, like, what's your, what's your point of view there? 735 00:38:27,570 --> 00:38:30,790 Yeah, Bitcoin is. So I believe in God. 736 00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:33,270 And, you know, back when I was younger, I used to do a lot of, 737 00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:36,230 I used to drink. I used to, you know, take Xanax. 738 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:40,990 I used to smoke weed. I used to party a lot, right. 739 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:43,910 And during my experiences, I took ecstasy. 740 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:48,070 You know, I've done a lot in my days and I and I could have died 741 00:38:48,070 --> 00:38:50,150 a couple times. And I thank God that, you know, 742 00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:53,270 I know it's God because trust me, I could have died a couple 743 00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:54,950 times. And I know if it wasn't for God, 744 00:38:55,350 --> 00:38:56,590 then I wouldn't be here right now. 745 00:38:57,230 --> 00:39:00,480 So. During my adolescent in my 746 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,040 younger years, I I took shrooms, right? 747 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,680 I'm sure you're familiar with shrooms. 748 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:12,360 So I've taken shrooms and that opened up my mind and helped me 749 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,800 to understand and you know, look at life differently. 750 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,240 And I also microdosed as well here and there. 751 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:22,480 So that really helps me, you know, stay humbled and stay 752 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,680 grounded. And the Bitcoin is. 753 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,680 It just really reveals who you are because as you just 754 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,280 mentioned, it makes you think about things that you really 755 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,080 didn't think about before, and it makes you question why. 756 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,000 Like you said, why do I want to buy this? 757 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000 And when you start asking yourself these questions, like 758 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,160 why am I, why am I thinking that I need to buy this? 759 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,840 And what is making me want to buy this? 760 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,240 It makes you take a deeper journey into yourself, and it 761 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:54,200 makes you realize that you're programmed and that you've been. 762 00:39:55,110 --> 00:39:56,750 You've been brainwashed since you're a kid. 763 00:39:56,750 --> 00:39:59,070 OK, You like, like, I have a nice watch on. 764 00:39:59,070 --> 00:40:04,070 I have a nice ring on. But you know, do I need this 765 00:40:04,070 --> 00:40:05,070 stuff? No, I don't. 766 00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:06,510 Why do I want it? Because it's shiny. 767 00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:08,110 Because I've been towed. Because of marketing. 768 00:40:08,110 --> 00:40:10,710 Because of commercials. Because we've been brainwashed. 769 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:11,590 But. Still, right? 770 00:40:11,590 --> 00:40:15,550 Still, I I find it interesting like I have the same like you 771 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:16,990 know this, but you still have to watch. 772 00:40:16,990 --> 00:40:19,190 Like I'm not judging, but it's interesting, right? 773 00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:23,370 That it's still it's not fully away or else you would have sold 774 00:40:23,370 --> 00:40:27,410 it maybe right? Like like it's it's very deeply 775 00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:30,450 ingrained. I bought this watch a long time 776 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:32,170 ago. So this watch is not a new part. 777 00:40:32,410 --> 00:40:33,970 No, no, it's fine. Like, it's not about the watch. 778 00:40:33,970 --> 00:40:36,490 But I think like it. It's just, I know that was just 779 00:40:36,490 --> 00:40:38,130 my point. Like, it's just ingrained, like 780 00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:40,010 very deeply, right. Like, I know I'm not going to 781 00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:41,170 live. Like, you know what? 782 00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:44,850 What the Steve Jobs doing with his mattress and like, one plate 783 00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:46,650 and a fork. No. 784 00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:51,430 You know are are, are are like these funny memes like on 785 00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:55,350 Twitter, like nowadays guys live like with you see like this blow 786 00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:58,910 up bed and like ATV and a PlayStation or something like 787 00:40:58,910 --> 00:41:02,590 no, no, and that's that. Like yes, you could go there, 788 00:41:02,590 --> 00:41:05,710 but it's more the point that it's so deeply ingrained, right. 789 00:41:05,710 --> 00:41:09,270 And that it's so deeply ingrained that you have to, you 790 00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:11,270 have to actually go on a journey, in a sense. 791 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:15,430 And then another thing as well is is is this ties to traveling? 792 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,520 Right. Because I travel a lot and I 793 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,280 went to Jamaica, been to Cancun. I want to go to the continent of 794 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,360 Africa and visit a few countries there. 795 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,240 But you know when you travel like, and I say this all the 796 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:32,040 time, that Americans are spoiled rotten and I guess the Europeans 797 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,400 as well, I'm not sure how spoiled you guys are because I'm 798 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,680 not a I'm not a European probably, yes, yes. 799 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,480 Compared to these, I say yes, absolutely. 800 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,600 Compared to, you know, 100%. Compared to Africa compared to 801 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,580 Jamaica, Mexico. You know, you don't realize how 802 00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:48,540 good we have it until you go to these countries, right? 803 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:51,580 And you see how people live with way less than us. 804 00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:55,460 No AC, they don't. None of the luxuries. 805 00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:56,460 Nothing. No. 806 00:41:56,780 --> 00:42:00,500 And they're happy. And we're here in America, 807 00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:02,700 spoiled rotten. And we get pissed off if 808 00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,020 McDonald's gets our I don't eat McDonald's. 809 00:42:05,260 --> 00:42:07,940 But you know, people get mad if their food's messed up. 810 00:42:07,940 --> 00:42:12,440 Or the clown world videos. Exactly now. 811 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,000 But I, I Dude, seriously, like I said this in the previous 812 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,440 episode as well. Like I realized that my 813 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,760 upbringing, like the millennials, especially in 814 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,360 Western Europe and also America, I think, but but let's say in 815 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,960 Western Europe more we had it like the best anyone has ever 816 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,400 had in the entirety of humanity, Right? 817 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,370 So yeah, like I know. So I, I and I, I, I know. 818 00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:47,690 But I also think that the traveling that you mentioned 819 00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:49,650 like that really helps in perspective. 820 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:52,890 I don't know if I really like integrated this, but I do know 821 00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:56,010 that I'm very, very lucky, right. 822 00:42:56,050 --> 00:43:02,530 And that other people have had way, way, way worse. 823 00:43:02,530 --> 00:43:06,580 And I also feel that it's kind of for me that is with Bitcoin, 824 00:43:06,580 --> 00:43:09,420 like it's a responsibility to help other people. 825 00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:13,460 Like I feel inclined almost to do that or at least try to do 826 00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:15,940 that right. So just like this podcast is 827 00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:18,580 just, I'm starting out, I don't know what I'm doing, you know, 828 00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:21,820 and just see if we can reach more people like that that that 829 00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:24,700 would be great. And interestingly, absolutely 830 00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:28,220 collectively we all play a part in, you know, orange filling, 831 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,730 you know, the masses, but. You know, I I highly recommend 832 00:43:31,730 --> 00:43:35,050 that you, you know if you haven't gone to you know Mexico 833 00:43:35,050 --> 00:43:37,850 or you know any just any third world country or just anywhere 834 00:43:37,850 --> 00:43:40,210 that's not you know, it's it's Lux. 835 00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:43,410 As luxurious as what we have, where we have it and how we have 836 00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:45,970 it. You know it it'll make you, you 837 00:43:45,970 --> 00:43:48,330 know I'm a I'm a sensitive person you know. 838 00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:53,890 So you know I went to Mexico and it's like then where is this? 839 00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:56,490 It's like like a little island, right. 840 00:43:56,770 --> 00:43:59,490 And I was walking down the street and. 841 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,960 The person I was with at the time, with the girls with at the 842 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,160 time, you know, I had on this nice. 843 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,360 It wasn't Versace, but it looked like a Versace shirt. 844 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,200 It was a nice shirt. And some dude was like, hey, I 845 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360 like your shirt. And I'm like, you really like 846 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,480 it. And like, yeah, I like it. 847 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,560 And he has like, he has like the most raggedy clothes on him, 848 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,760 like, Oh my God, I like 1 to cry And I'm like. 849 00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:22,740 I just took off my shirt and gave it to him. 850 00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:24,220 Yeah, well, like, what am I doing? 851 00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:26,300 Yeah, like, right, like, Oh my God, let me. 852 00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:28,540 I gave him the shirt and he almost started crying. 853 00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:30,260 He's like, you really giving me this shirt. 854 00:44:30,260 --> 00:44:32,300 I'm like, yeah, Dad, it's just a shirt, man. 855 00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:35,140 I have a closet full of shirts that I don't even wear. 856 00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:37,580 You can have this shirt and I'm walking around. 857 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:39,900 And then after that I'm just walking around like, man, we got 858 00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,060 a maid and you know, I went to Jamaica. 859 00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:44,340 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to Jamaica. 860 00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:46,140 Go ahead. Yeah, no problem. 861 00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:53,400 I went to Jamaica on a cruise. Back in 20, probably 1516 and I 862 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,880 went to Jamaica. You know they're chilling with 863 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,960 in the. They're chilling in huts, right. 864 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,480 They got clay playhouses and it's hot as hell. 865 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,760 They have no AC, but they're happy, man. 866 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,440 And you know, I have some friends that live in Haiti and 867 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000 you know, he goes down with all of our old shoes and all of our 868 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,320 old clothes that we hate and that are dirty and he goes over 869 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,400 there. And they're ecstatic and they're 870 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,120 crying and they're happy. And he gives it away and we 871 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,600 don't even like it and we don't even wear it. 872 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,880 And they have nothing on their feet, They're barefoot, they 873 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,400 don't have any clothes, They can barely eat. 874 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,600 So, you know, once I, once I experienced that, man, it it 875 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,200 really changed my my perspective on how we live. 876 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,000 And that's why I always That's why I talk as much shit as I do. 877 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,440 Because we are really spoiled in America and we don't know how 878 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,880 good we have it. Yeah, I fully agree, man. 879 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,530 I I think it's really good to like, take moments like this and 880 00:45:49,530 --> 00:45:51,330 actually think about this, right? 881 00:45:51,330 --> 00:45:54,930 Because we are just doing our thing and every day is another 882 00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:56,130 day. Yeah, bro. 883 00:45:56,290 --> 00:45:59,650 This phone is $1000. I'm on another phone. 884 00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:02,450 It's $1000. These kids don't even have 885 00:46:02,490 --> 00:46:04,770 phones. You know, we complain, oh, we, 886 00:46:05,050 --> 00:46:08,850 oh, I don't have Wi-Fi or I'm losing service and we get so 887 00:46:08,850 --> 00:46:12,770 pissed and we're so irate and they don't even have Internet. 888 00:46:14,260 --> 00:46:18,940 I have to think of, I think it's Louis CK or BE or or Bill Burr. 889 00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:20,700 They have like, I think it's Louis CK. 890 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:25,140 He has like a bit where he says, you know what I hate when you're 891 00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:31,020 like on a plane and there's Wi-Fi and then there's people 892 00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:36,020 who pay for the Wi-Fi, way too much money, right, For the 893 00:46:36,020 --> 00:46:38,100 Wi-Fi. And then he starts complaining 894 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,060 that it doesn't fucking work, what the fuck? 895 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:42,060 I just paid and the Wi-Fi doesn't work. 896 00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:45,240 And then he says, like, seriously, think about it. 897 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,880 You're in a plane in the air, there's Wi-Fi. 898 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,840 You are able to pay for the Wi-Fi. 899 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,080 And you're so privileged. I'm not the and you're so 900 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,840 complaining about that the Wi-Fi in my plane towards my holiday 901 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,320 destination does not work. Like, man, Oh yeah, I have to 902 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,360 think of that that's. Yeah. 903 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,320 But it's good to think about that. 904 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,200 Like, also sorry. Like I I love the psychedelics 905 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,720 topic. I can talk for days. 906 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,080 But I wanted to ask you like, is that like a way to? 907 00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:18,450 I don't want to call it a shortcut because I also think 908 00:47:18,450 --> 00:47:20,690 psychedelics take work, actual work. 909 00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:26,970 But it is a way to, like, humble yourself when you come from a 910 00:47:27,130 --> 00:47:32,650 privileged place like America or like a Western country. 911 00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:35,210 What do you think of that? Like, I just had to think of 912 00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:38,090 that, like, it helps you for the perspective in a sense, right? 913 00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:42,910 Like zoom out, see your place in the world, or the Infinity of 914 00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:46,270 the universe, basically. You hit the nail right on the 915 00:47:46,270 --> 00:47:47,150 head. Zoom out. 916 00:47:47,550 --> 00:47:50,550 Because that's exactly what happened, is that you zoom, 917 00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:53,150 you're you're you're lifted out of your body, right? 918 00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:55,510 And you get to see it from a different perspective. 919 00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:59,270 You're also connecting the neural pathways in your brain, 920 00:47:59,270 --> 00:48:01,270 and you're using different parts of your brain that you never 921 00:48:01,270 --> 00:48:02,950 used before. You're activating different 922 00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:06,950 parts of your brains and you know it It when I've taken 923 00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:09,270 shrews before. There's been times when I've 924 00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:12,150 taken shrooms and I've been and I cried the whole time and I was 925 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:15,670 just out. It wasn't a sad cry, it was a 926 00:48:16,750 --> 00:48:19,910 I'm so thankful cry. Yeah, it's a not a relief. 927 00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:24,350 It was a I'm so thankful cry because whatever it is that I 928 00:48:24,350 --> 00:48:27,990 was thinking about at that time, it was the complete opposite. 929 00:48:28,190 --> 00:48:32,350 So it brings you to a place where I think it brings you to a 930 00:48:32,350 --> 00:48:35,720 place where you need to. Need to be right and not to take 931 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:39,920 shrooms to like OD and trip out and you know be be messed up on 932 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,560 it, right? Or go to a party. 933 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,840 You know, you take enough. Maybe for me, mine is like 3 934 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,240 grams, 3 1/2 grams is A8. Maybe that's for some people 935 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,160 that's maybe a little bit too much. 2 grams, 3 grams. 936 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,800 Hey, that's enough for me to, you know, get a nice, you know, 937 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,200 a nice trip is what we call it. And you know, just. 938 00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:05,490 Just breathe, right? That's exactly what you do. 939 00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:08,850 You just take a deep breath and relax, man. 940 00:49:08,850 --> 00:49:10,610 And you go sit out in the porch, right? 941 00:49:10,610 --> 00:49:13,610 And you go sit down and you calm yourself and you just, you just 942 00:49:14,050 --> 00:49:16,090 relax, man. It's the best thing I've ever 943 00:49:16,090 --> 00:49:17,450 done. One of the best things I've ever 944 00:49:17,450 --> 00:49:20,210 done is is taking shrooms and enlighten me. 945 00:49:21,610 --> 00:49:26,090 I feel more and more people are are into this and and and like 946 00:49:26,090 --> 00:49:29,050 researching and wanting to try this. 947 00:49:29,090 --> 00:49:36,100 Actually just had a friend over. He's like 48 and he was like, I 948 00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,060 want to try. I want to try this together 949 00:49:38,060 --> 00:49:41,940 once, you know, and I said OK, yeah, but I'm really excited. 950 00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:45,260 He said, I said OK, well we can do this, but but like even like 951 00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:47,940 all these, I don't know what it is. 952 00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:51,140 But I think like people need currently like there's there's 953 00:49:51,140 --> 00:49:54,780 kind of this, I don't know, I don't know like this undertone 954 00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:58,660 of people that like want to know more about life or something, 955 00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:00,060 right. Like, they realized that it's 956 00:50:00,060 --> 00:50:04,760 just going every day and then at one moment it's two weeks later 957 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,720 and they're like, oh, damn. Like this is another two weeks 958 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,840 going by, like, what? Kind of like, what? 959 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,000 I want to say, like what is going on? 960 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,160 You know, Like they want to take this moment to reflect. 961 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,080 And I think, yeah, the psychedelics just really help 962 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,600 you to gain like a new, new perspective. 963 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,680 Kind of like take AI. Don't want to say take a break, 964 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,760 but just stand still for a minute and take that moment. 965 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,360 And it gives you another level of of appreciation and. 966 00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:34,460 I'm just thankful, you know that I was able to you know embark on 967 00:50:34,460 --> 00:50:37,460 that journey and I don't think I would be the same person if I 968 00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:41,100 didn't And I I encourage everyone that you know, don't 969 00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,340 take too much if it's your first time taking it and you're 970 00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:44,860 watching this. Just be careful, you know? 971 00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:47,140 And don't you gotta lean in. You gotta lean. 972 00:50:47,140 --> 00:50:49,580 Into it and being a take it in on a good mood. 973 00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:53,980 Don't take it when you're upset. You know and I highly recommend 974 00:50:53,980 --> 00:50:57,060 that you you know micro dose if you if you're able to do so and 975 00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:59,730 you know. I highly recommend that you guys 976 00:50:59,730 --> 00:51:03,170 just take that spiritual journey and look deep within yourself, 977 00:51:03,170 --> 00:51:04,650 right? And and reflect and like you 978 00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:07,530 said, take it, take a deep breath and be still because 979 00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:10,130 we're moving so fast. And I actually just got off the 980 00:51:10,130 --> 00:51:12,970 phone with one of my friends and I've been telling them to buy 981 00:51:12,970 --> 00:51:15,410 Bitcoin and I've been telling them to fix his credit. 982 00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:19,370 And a lot of my people that I know, a lot of my friends that 983 00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:21,250 are that are very close and I don't have a lot of close 984 00:51:21,250 --> 00:51:23,130 friends because, you know, I tell the truth and a lot of 985 00:51:23,130 --> 00:51:25,330 people are offended by the truth, unfortunately. 986 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,880 So my close friends that I do, that I'm cool with, you know, 987 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,680 I'll fix their credit for free. And I've been telling him to 988 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,480 send me his ID and so I can do all the stuff. 989 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,520 He still hasn't done it. But I was on the phone with him 990 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,200 today and he said, man, I'm just tired of paying bills. 991 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,960 I'm tired of working just to pay bills. 992 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,120 And this ties back into Bitcoin. And you know, I explained to him 993 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,760 why Bitcoin is important again and he's been stacking a little 994 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,120 bit. And he said, man, he's just 995 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,760 tired of, you know, working to pay bills. 996 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,090 That and being stressed out and. You know, it's just going 997 00:51:56,090 --> 00:51:59,530 through the motions of life and like you said, 1111 minute 998 00:51:59,530 --> 00:52:03,370 you're here and then next, next one, one day you're 16 years 999 00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:07,890 old, next day you're 30, right? Like you, time is time is going 1000 00:52:07,890 --> 00:52:12,210 to lose them. And so to hear him say that, it 1001 00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:15,130 just reminded me of me, right? And it reminded me of Bitcoin 1002 00:52:15,130 --> 00:52:18,570 and saying that we are tired of the system and we're tired of 1003 00:52:18,570 --> 00:52:21,570 being manipulated and we're trying to being exploited and 1004 00:52:22,010 --> 00:52:24,090 we're going to fight back. And that's what Bitcoin. 1005 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,400 So what's what's, what's your shortest answer to how how 1006 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,320 Bitcoin can contribute to personal and financial freedom. 1007 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,440 Then like I said, shortest because I think you can probably 1008 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,800 go for long on this, but like, what's the core of that I'd say. 1009 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,920 Let's start. Let's start with what is yours 1010 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,920 and then I'll go. Because I don't. 1011 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,840 I don't. I don't. 1012 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,560 I'm not sure how to, how to. I'll tell you, I'll tell you. 1013 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,400 So when I realized that the money in the bank wasn't mine, 1014 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:01,040 and I actually read up on it like how it works, like my, my 1015 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,080 conclusion that when I put my money on the bank, I basically 1016 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,240 borrowed or I lend it to the bank, they borrowed for me, 1017 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:12,360 that's contractually I sign for that actually when I open an 1018 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,600 account. And then they try to make more 1019 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,600 money of it, right. Like that's their business 1020 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,890 model, which is fine because I think banks started as like a 1021 00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:25,970 credit facilitator for businesses etcetera. 1022 00:53:25,970 --> 00:53:29,050 Like I think that's necessary. Of course now there's all these 1023 00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:31,130 other things you can you can think a lot of that, but let's 1024 00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:32,730 say you know that's just their business model. 1025 00:53:32,970 --> 00:53:38,890 But when I realized that when it goes great and the bank makes a 1026 00:53:38,890 --> 00:53:42,490 lot of money, I don't see any upside of that, right. 1027 00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:45,450 Only only the people who hold their stock or get dividends, 1028 00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:47,090 like they they see the upside of that. 1029 00:53:47,930 --> 00:53:54,710 But when it goes bad, I do, I do get like you know the results 1030 00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:58,430 there, right. So for people listening like in 1031 00:53:58,430 --> 00:54:01,830 in America you have the FDIC insurance right up until I don't 1032 00:54:01,830 --> 00:54:03,070 know. Well now it's kind of like a 1033 00:54:03,070 --> 00:54:07,110 battle how high it can go. But let's say 250K for now in in 1034 00:54:07,110 --> 00:54:10,590 my country it's 100K, right. So if the bank loses your money, 1035 00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:12,950 quote UN quote, you get that money back. 1036 00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:14,550 That's the insurance that is there. 1037 00:54:14,550 --> 00:54:16,540 But, but where does that money come from? 1038 00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:18,180 Oh, that money comes from the government. 1039 00:54:18,180 --> 00:54:20,140 Where does the money from the government come from? 1040 00:54:20,140 --> 00:54:22,100 That comes from the citizens, right. 1041 00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:29,780 So when I kind of like went through that and thought like I 1042 00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:32,820 don't want to participate in that, not like in an anti bank 1043 00:54:32,820 --> 00:54:35,780 way, but it just doesn't make sense for me. 1044 00:54:36,180 --> 00:54:39,460 And so when I realized that there's that my money or that 1045 00:54:39,460 --> 00:54:42,580 what I earned was trapped in a system that I couldn't really, 1046 00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:46,380 like, rationalize and agree with to participate in that sense. 1047 00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:50,700 And I knew about Bitcoin, and I learned more than when. 1048 00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:54,020 And this was my biggest one of my biggest, like clicks when it 1049 00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:59,020 clicked was, hey, I can move that what I own to another 1050 00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:04,500 place, which I can argument is prove provably better. 1051 00:55:06,180 --> 00:55:10,460 And that has given me a lot of freedom in the sense that I'm a 1052 00:55:10,460 --> 00:55:14,010 pretty risky first person. And I once heard also someone 1053 00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:17,010 said like you, you have an extra job that you don't know you 1054 00:55:17,010 --> 00:55:19,010 have, right? Like you have to mitigate the 1055 00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:23,690 risk of having your money in the bank and due to inflation in the 1056 00:55:23,690 --> 00:55:25,850 basement, it's melting away like you. 1057 00:55:25,890 --> 00:55:29,370 That's why people invest in stuff, or they do like these 1058 00:55:29,370 --> 00:55:33,330 stupid stonks or stupid meme coins or or whatever, right? 1059 00:55:33,610 --> 00:55:37,410 So you already take risk because you have a job or you have a 1060 00:55:37,410 --> 00:55:40,010 venture or something. But then when you come home, you 1061 00:55:40,010 --> 00:55:45,610 basically start your second job, which is taking more risk to 1062 00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:49,010 mitigate something that is happening by default, right? 1063 00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:53,650 The the debasement of the money is a programmed thing in the 1064 00:55:53,650 --> 00:55:57,770 current financial system. And yeah, my my conclusion was I 1065 00:55:57,770 --> 00:56:01,210 don't want to do that because I'm not a risk risk taking guy. 1066 00:56:01,570 --> 00:56:04,930 I want something boring and safe and that's actually why I'm in 1067 00:56:04,930 --> 00:56:07,220 Bitcoin. And that is what's given me a 1068 00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:10,900 lot of freedom in not having to think about other investments 1069 00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:12,140 and stuff. I don't have any other 1070 00:56:12,140 --> 00:56:16,860 investments, basically. Yeah, that's gave me freedom. 1071 00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:19,380 Freedom in my mind and also eventually, well, what we just 1072 00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:22,780 mentioned, like I yeah, I just live like I don't have the 1073 00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:27,260 Bitcoin, I live pretty frugal and yeah, that's it. 1074 00:56:28,020 --> 00:56:28,900 Awesome. Awesome. 1075 00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:30,580 I try. It's hard though. 1076 00:56:30,580 --> 00:56:34,260 It's still hard. Like, it's I I I have the same 1077 00:56:34,850 --> 00:56:36,250 kind of like beliefs as you write. 1078 00:56:36,250 --> 00:56:38,130 Like to buy stupid stuff sometimes. 1079 00:56:39,930 --> 00:56:41,770 But yeah, I think that's what's giving me freedom. 1080 00:56:41,770 --> 00:56:44,130 Like just less to think about, like there's less in my head. 1081 00:56:44,210 --> 00:56:46,250 Absolutely. All right. 1082 00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:47,410 Yeah. Yeah. 1083 00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:49,930 I think that's a great way to put it in. 1084 00:56:50,050 --> 00:56:53,050 I'm sure there's a lot of people that can relate with that as 1085 00:56:53,050 --> 00:56:54,770 well. And like you said, if you're not 1086 00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:58,970 risk adverse and you want to be safe, right, Bitcoin is the way 1087 00:56:58,970 --> 00:57:02,830 to go and not only is it. Safe. 1088 00:57:02,830 --> 00:57:05,590 It's the best asset ever on planet Earth. 1089 00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:06,630 Ever. Ever. 1090 00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:07,990 Ever. I don't know why people don't 1091 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:10,470 understand. It's the best asset ever that's 1092 00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:11,510 ever been. Why? 1093 00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:12,950 Why? Just say one sentence. 1094 00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:16,310 Why? Well, it's that is a challenge, 1095 00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:17,350 I know. Yeah, that's a challenge. 1096 00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:22,670 The best asset ever. Bitcoin is freedom. 1097 00:57:22,670 --> 00:57:25,350 Yeah. Yeah, go ahead now. 1098 00:57:25,350 --> 00:57:31,740 Yesterday I tweeted to someone like Bitcoin is the thing. 1099 00:57:32,820 --> 00:57:35,860 Wait, I have to say it correctly like I want to look up the 1100 00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:39,060 tweet, but I think it's like engineered, the closest approx 1101 00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:42,700 approximation of engineered truth. 1102 00:57:43,060 --> 00:57:46,940 That's what I said. And so it's code, It's just 1103 00:57:46,940 --> 00:57:49,780 code. It's just rules, open rules that 1104 00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:51,660 anyone can adopt if they want to. 1105 00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:53,620 And if they adopt it, they have to play by the rules. 1106 00:57:53,620 --> 00:57:56,380 If they don't play by the rules, they cannot adopt it, right? 1107 00:57:56,380 --> 00:58:01,190 So it's just that thing and you have to agree on that thing. 1108 00:58:01,230 --> 00:58:05,110 That's why I say truth, because it is that and you accept that 1109 00:58:05,710 --> 00:58:08,390 or you cannot play. That's why I call it truth. 1110 00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:12,510 And that is just it. It's just a set of rules and you 1111 00:58:12,510 --> 00:58:16,150 can do whatever you want. You can adopt it or not, but the 1112 00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:19,670 thing just keeps on going. Like it doesn't care if you 1113 00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:21,110 adopt it or not. That's right. 1114 00:58:21,870 --> 00:58:23,430 Sorry, but I want to, didn't want to interrupt. 1115 00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:26,550 No, you're good. So when I Bitcoin for me. 1116 00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:33,550 When I learned. That again, the money is being 1117 00:58:33,550 --> 00:58:35,350 debased. We're being duped. 1118 00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:39,310 We're being stolen from our children are being stolen from 1119 00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:43,270 the banking. The banking cartels, you know, 1120 00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:46,110 abuse us. The government's abuse us. 1121 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:50,790 They lie, they steal, they cheat, and they smile on their 1122 00:58:50,790 --> 00:58:54,350 face and lie on media all day. Once I figured that out and I 1123 00:58:54,350 --> 00:58:57,140 saw the light. And I learned about Bitcoin and 1124 00:58:57,180 --> 00:59:00,820 and figured out that I can escape the system, escape the 1125 00:59:00,820 --> 00:59:04,540 matrix, and, you know, have something that I can actually 1126 00:59:04,540 --> 00:59:06,420 own and move it without permission. 1127 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:10,060 I'm, I hate asking for permission. 1128 00:59:10,060 --> 00:59:18,300 So Bitcoin is permissionless freedom, power, wealth, and so 1129 00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:19,300 much more. All in one. 1130 00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:21,540 And once you understand that, and once you grasp that, and 1131 00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:23,740 once you have conviction, you'll get bitcoins added on you, 1132 00:59:23,740 --> 00:59:27,060 right? Even on your face on your arm 1133 00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:29,140 and you'll stack away and you won't. 1134 00:59:29,180 --> 00:59:32,060 You won't, you won't. You'll have laser eyes right. 1135 00:59:32,060 --> 00:59:34,980 We're focused right. Laser eyes focus on Bitcoin. 1136 00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:37,860 And I highly recommend everybody just stack some Bitcoin. 1137 00:59:37,860 --> 00:59:41,540 And you know if you guys have any questions or or concerns you 1138 00:59:41,540 --> 00:59:44,180 know make sure you hit us up. Bitcoin for millennials. 1139 00:59:44,180 --> 00:59:46,580 Thank you for having me on. It's been a great hour session. 1140 00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:50,820 Great hour talk and. Congratulate you for your new 1141 00:59:50,820 --> 00:59:53,380 podcast, and I know you'll do a great job of, you know, orange 1142 00:59:53,380 --> 00:59:56,380 peeling the masses. I'll try. 1143 00:59:56,380 --> 00:59:57,940 Man, thanks so much for being on. 1144 00:59:57,940 --> 01:00:00,300 I have one last question. Absolutely. 1145 01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:04,620 And that I ask everyone what's a, what's a core belief that you 1146 01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:09,060 will never let go? Let me think about that one more 1147 01:00:09,060 --> 01:00:11,180 belief. I have a few, but I'll just 1148 01:00:11,180 --> 01:00:13,420 stick to this one. There's no white. 1149 01:00:13,660 --> 01:00:16,420 There's no black. There's no purple, yellow, 1150 01:00:16,420 --> 01:00:18,990 green. We're all one humanity. 1151 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:20,870 We're all one of you. We're all one human, right? 1152 01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:23,830 There's one race, the human race, and we're all one one 1153 01:00:23,830 --> 01:00:25,710 color. That's the color orange. 1154 01:00:25,990 --> 01:00:29,590 We're all bitcoiners. And we're also taking back 1155 01:00:29,590 --> 01:00:31,790 another. I love. 1156 01:00:31,790 --> 01:00:34,030 I love that man. I actually want to add something 1157 01:00:34,030 --> 01:00:35,750 to this. I've been waiting, actually, to 1158 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:37,630 say this, like, I want to spread this more. 1159 01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:40,470 So I have a son. He's five years old, right? 1160 01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:44,830 He's seen tall people, small people, fat people, thin people. 1161 01:00:46,010 --> 01:00:49,250 And like he was, he was watching something on Netflix, like some 1162 01:00:49,690 --> 01:00:52,370 animation thing, like a bunch of different children, like, right, 1163 01:00:52,370 --> 01:00:53,850 like six children playing with each other. 1164 01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:56,930 And I asked him, like, who do you like the best? 1165 01:00:57,450 --> 01:00:58,570 Or, like who do you like the most? 1166 01:00:58,930 --> 01:01:02,010 And then he said the girl in the red dress, and it was a black 1167 01:01:02,010 --> 01:01:05,010 girl. And I thought, this is so 1168 01:01:05,010 --> 01:01:08,810 amazing, man, this child is five years old and he does not see 1169 01:01:08,810 --> 01:01:09,650 color. Color. 1170 01:01:09,650 --> 01:01:13,330 Seeing color or judging on color is the most stupidest thing. 1171 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,840 Ever. And I love that you talked about 1172 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,280 this like again like he sees all these different types of people. 1173 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,160 He has never ever said anything about skin color. 1174 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,200 Never. And that's just you know I don't 1175 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,560 I don't know what to say like the the we have to listen to the 1176 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,920 kids like what is going like what is going on. 1177 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,960 So I absolutely love that you that you talked about that 1178 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,820 because that is. I love that. 1179 01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:42,420 That's the love that we. Yeah, that's a perfect ending. 1180 01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:44,300 And that's the love that we need in the world, you know, And 1181 01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:47,780 there's so many things that they try to divide us with, with race 1182 01:01:47,780 --> 01:01:50,260 and color and ethnic religion and where you live and all that. 1183 01:01:50,260 --> 01:01:52,220 It's like, Oh my God, no, we're all human. 1184 01:01:52,620 --> 01:01:53,740 We're supposed to love each other. 1185 01:01:54,140 --> 01:01:56,700 And you know, all of us collectively, you know, God made 1186 01:01:56,700 --> 01:01:58,980 us all right and we're all together, God. 1187 01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:02,780 And you know, we come from God. So I think that's just how we 1188 01:02:02,780 --> 01:02:04,740 should live. Then like I said, we're all 1189 01:02:04,740 --> 01:02:07,580 orange, we're all good corners, and we're all Satoshi Nakamoto. 1190 01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:11,820 Thanks man. So where where can people follow 1191 01:02:11,820 --> 01:02:13,540 you? I'll link to your YouTube and 1192 01:02:13,540 --> 01:02:16,580 your Twitter like, but like what's the best way? 1193 01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:20,860 I'll send you the links as well. And yeah, so my music page is 1194 01:02:20,860 --> 01:02:27,340 Chris Knight four O 7. My Bitcoin page is at sign 1195 01:02:27,340 --> 01:02:33,300 Bitcoin Chris on Twitter, it's Chris Knight four O 7, Instagram 1196 01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:35,700 Chris Knight Four O 7. That's why I'm sending the link. 1197 01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:37,880 It's a lot. And then you can just click the 1198 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,760 links down below and then Facebook. 1199 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,880 It's official Bitcoin, Chris. Awesome, man. 1200 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,440 Well, let's stay in touch and talk soon. 1201 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,920 Absolutely. Much respect and thank you so 1202 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,480 much for having me on, brother. Thanks man. 1203 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,760 Cheers. I hope you enjoyed this episode. 1204 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,800 If you did, it would be amazing if you could rate, review and 1205 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,360 subscribe on the podcast platform of your choice. 1206 01:03:00,770 --> 01:03:03,330 It will help us educate more millennials on the importance of 1207 01:03:03,330 --> 01:03:05,330 Bitcoin. You can follow and connect with 1208 01:03:05,330 --> 01:03:08,650 me on Twitter. I'm Brom K That's at Bramk. 1209 01:03:09,210 --> 01:03:11,370 And if you are or know someone who has an interesting 1210 01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:13,810 perspective on Bitcoin that's worth sharing, hit me up. 1211 01:03:14,170 --> 01:03:15,890 I read and reply to every single message. 1212 01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:18,690 I appreciate your support and hope you'll be here for the next 1213 01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:20,130 episode. Thanks for listening. 1214 01:03:20,450 --> 01:03:20,690 Bye.