Hey everyone, this is from Konstein and you're listening to
Bitcoin for Millennials. Together with my guests on this
podcast, I go on a journey to discover how our current
financial system works, why it's flawed, and why Bitcoin is the
most relevant technology that you, my fellow millennials,
should adopt. In this episode, I'm joined by
Chris Knight, AKA Bitcoin Chris. He's a financial coach and
mentor helping people analyze and repair their credit.
He's also an entrepreneur, investor and author in his
upcoming book is called Fiat That Bitcoin Dad.
That's a that's a great take on the OG title, man.
He's a very outspoken Bitcoin believer and I'm excited to talk
with him. Welcome man.
Thank you for having me and absolutely I'm excited to to
chat with you and you know, spread the gospel of Satoshi
Nakamoto and Bitcoin. So how did you get into Bitcoin?
I'd love to hear that because I just off mic.
I told you I saw your music. You're a rapper as well, so
obviously rappers love money. Love money.
Was that the entry? No, actually I talk, I talk down
on the rappers because, you know, they teach, they don't
teach. They influence us to spend money
frivolously on things that really don't matter, right?
And they they influence us. You know the culture is cool and
all that. You know and you know we
influence the, you know the culture hip hop influences.
You know the world, right? But that wasn't how I was
influenced by Bitcoin. I was actually introduced to
Bitcoin by Max and Stacey. Max Kaiser, Stacey Herbert.
And I actually was working a normal job.
I used to work at Hilton at a call center, and somehow I
stumbled across, you know, Bitcoin and some shit coins.
And back then, this is probably 26.
This is 2016. Back then, I had no idea about
money. I had no idea what Bitcoin was.
I had no idea what shit coins were.
I just saw, you know, you can make a lot of money from it.
So instead of taking phone calls, I was actually, you know,
buying Bitcoin and buying shit coins and, you know, trying to
figure out how to, you know, get into it.
And I'm pretty tech savvy, so buying the shit coins on all
these crazy exchanges and, you know, doing all that was easy to
me. But instead of taking phone
calls, I actually bought my first Bitcoin was on Coinbase.
So, you know, I was on Coinbase buying Bitcoin, and when I saw
Bitcoin, it was like 5-7 hundred, $800 a $1000.
And I'm like, and I was thinking of it as a stock.
You know, I'm like, there's no way I'm buying this stock for
$1000 because I'm so used to stocks moving 2%, five percent,
10%, You know, those baby gains, right?
Stocks don't really move like that.
But when Bitcoin went from, that's that's when the Bitcoin
bull market started, right? Because Bitcoin went from $1000
to $20,000. And you know, again, I didn't
really know much about it until I started learning from Max and
Stacy. So shout out to the O GS, the
grandpa grandma of Bitcoin. You know, Max and Stacy, I got
to meet them as well. They follow me as well on
Twitter. Yeah.
And I'm really cool with them. I chat with them all the time
and you know, they're they're, they're the best in my opinion.
So without them I wouldn't be a bit corner.
Oh man, that's dope. Well, actually Max is one of my
biggest influences as well. I always I had to laugh when I
saw what his company was called. It was called Heisenberg Capital
named after after Walter White breaking Breaking Bad.
But yeah, like anyone who's listening who doesn't know Max
Kaiser, you should just search him on YouTube and then you know
why he's so influential? Like he he's been calling
Bitcoin I think from $0.10 or a dollar.
I don't even know $3. I have no clue.
And he gave like thousands of Bitcoin away to people just to,
you know, educate them. So, oh man, that's that's dope.
That's fun. Fun that you share that.
But you saw it as a stock before or like a money making
something. Now you see it as something
different, I think. Like what?
What was the what was your aha moment there?
Like when? When did that view change?
Well, seeing how Max and Stacy on the Kaiser report before they
took down RT on YouTube. They would explain the contilion
air effect. They would explain what's going
on with the money. They would explain what's going
on with inflation. They would explain what's going
on over in China and they would just explain to, you know, to
their audience, you know what's what's really going on with our
money. And so growing up, I knew that I
knew something was wrong with the money.
I just did. I didn't have an understanding
of what was going on with the money.
So they were able to break it down for me in a way that I was
able to understand and the best way to for me.
The best way I like to explain it is you know, it's real estate
is the best way. I like to explain how how much
the money's gone down. So you said Bitcoin is the real
real estate, so. The only property that you can
own and even though I am a proponent of cash boring
businesses such as real estate, I I Bitcoin is, you know, number
one. I have Bitcoin tatted on my
face. That's a that's AB for Bitcoin
on my face. If you didn't know, I got one.
I got one on my. Arms.
Got you. Excellent.
So you know, back in when our parents were growing up, while
I'm in America, so I know you're overseas in Europe, but here in
America, you know when our parents were growing up, they
could buy a house for 304050 grand.
And you know that's because the dollar was so strong back then
and now the same house is worth $350,000.
And that's not because of the value of the house going up,
it's the value of our dollar and the purchasing power going down.
So that just shows you how much. Inflation has pretty much just
eliminated and annihilated our purchasing power.
And that was the great aha moment for me.
And as well as, you know, the 2008 crisis, I remember that
like it was yesterday because you know, everyone that I know,
when when the banks crashed the Depression, everybody was
hurting. So I remembered, like I
remembered all going through these times with our money and
understanding that they bailed out the banks.
But you know, we got the short end of the stick.
And you know, the only way to opt out of the system was to buy
Bitcoin. And once I figured that out, you
know, I'm a rebel. I'm a rebel.
Offer it right? And I'm, I'm very defiant.
And like you said, I'm very outspoken.
So once I understood how we were being screwed by our governments
and by the money printing, I was like, you know what?
I'm all in. I'm all the way in and how long
would you say did it take you to go from?
This is a cool investment to to understanding what you just
said. It took me a little bit.
It took me a little bit of time because you do have to do the
work right and you have to learn and you have to go.
I think most people have to go through a bear cycle to
understand it. I actually rode Bitcoin up to
20,000 and all the way back down to 3000 and then I bought more.
I went up to 10K, then went back down to 3000.
So I was actually in the space. That whole time.
And I was just accumulating at that time.
And the great thing is, is in 2017 when we hit that bubble, I
actually started my business. I actually started credit repair
and started to learn about, you know, money and credit in the
United States. So by the time 2020 came around
before the pandemic, I was still working at a job.
But I was able to understand how credit works in America, and I
was able to get my brother and myself over $100,000.
On credit and I bought Bitcoin right before the before on half
and I and I was actually contemplating on whether I
should buy real estate or if I should buy Bitcoin and you know
the only reason why real estate is good is again the cash flow
and the tax advantages of it. So I know British you know
British says if you buy real estate you're stupid.
I, I, I can agree with that but it depends on what your outcome
and what you're trying to accomplish is.
So if you're looking to accomplish saving money on
taxes. And if you're looking to
accomplish, you know, cash flow and you're not using your hard
earned money, that's why we use credit.
We use the bank's money to buy assets, that cash flow to pay
back the money, right. So if you're doing that, then
yes, that makes sense. But at that time, instead of me
buying bit, instead of me buying real estate, I took money, I
just bought Bitcoin and I started a business and it was
the best decision I ever made. And from there we went from
three grand. The five grand, the 10 grand,
the 20 grand, $69,000. And you know, the whole time I
was online promoting and telling everybody to buy Bitcoin,
telling everybody to buy Bitcoin.
They didn't want to listen. We hopped on me and British and
countless other people on the clubhouse room every day, buying
Bitcoin, encouraging people, educating on, educating people
on Bitcoin. The wallets, You know, the same
dumbass questions every day. What wallet should I get?
Should we buy Ethereum?
And, you know, some people have to learn the hard way, you know,
and I did get in the shit coins and I did lose a lot of money
and I did trade and I lost a lot of money.
But I feel like everybody, not everybody, but majority of the
people need to go through that to understand, you know, what
Bitcoin is and also then what you know why Bitcoin is not
crypto. Of course.
And yeah, I think that's great. I love.
I have a few things that like speak my mind.
I love that everyone says you have to do the work, right.
That's what. What is the work?
What is the work like? What is Is that like learning
and unlearning? Challenging yourself like?
You hit the nail. What would you say is the word?
You hit the nail right on the head.
It's unlearning and relearning because everything that we
taught is a lie. And I actually learned that.
I actually learned that at a young age by watching, you know,
zeitgeist and all these other videos and you know.
The the conspiracy theories that they call people crazy, right,
They're not crazy. Conspiracy theories are more
closer than the truth and what we're being told.
So I learned that our society and everything that we learned,
you know, was a lie. So I had to unlearn.
You know, we're taught that credit is bad.
We're taught that, you know, buy everything in cash.
We're taught, we're taught to buy a home and get a 30 year
mortgage. Even though you pay the mortgage
off, you pay the house off damn near three times.
And if you don't know how money works or you don't know that
you're supposed to buy investments to pay for your
liabilities, you know you're just going to continue to do
what everybody's been doing for the last, you know, century,
right, in America. So you have to unlearn all the
brainwashing, all the what would be the correct terminology for
that? It would be well, you start
thinking for yourself in a sense, absolutely.
The condition like really. You have to start thinking for
yourself and you know, most people aren't ready to to do
that, unfortunately. So when you try to Orange Bill,
people like what's what's the biggest, I want to say pushback?
You get, but more like, I don't know if pushback is the word
like, I like the hesitancy, right?
Like, I think with Bitcoin, there's a lot of things that you
can like logically explain, you know, like, oh, the financial
system works like a but that doesn't really make sense
because etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, right.
But then that is just what it is, right?
It's not even your opinion. You're just sharing how you have
understood, you know, that it now works.
But in my experience, like a lot of people think like oh, whoa,
holy, holy moly, you know, like that that's that's really
confronting my current beliefs, right.
And so they they kind of get on a defense in a sense like what's
your, what's your experience there like how do, how do you
mitigate that or try? And I'm very, like, I'm very
brash and I used to be way more like aggressive and way more
brash. So I've toned it down a lot,
trust me. But you know, I've to to.
I usually just give them Bitcoin, right?
And the biggest pushback I get is the unit bias.
They think, oh, I have to buy a Bitcoin.
I don't have $30,000. I don't have 20,000.
I don't have 10,000. I don't have 5000.
They don't have nothing, right. A lot of people don't have
anything, unfortunately. But This is why I I talk the way
I talk because for me it's just an excuse.
But I feel like it's the education that needs to be done
first. However, you know if they buy
stock that they buy. If they buy stocks, then they
should have an idea about investing.
And a lot of people don't buy stocks.
There's a very, very small percentage of people that are
investing in the in the middle class.
So I would usually just give them Bitcoin, right?
I say, hey, it's 10 bucks free Bitcoin.
Hey, watch it go up and down. Watch it go up and down.
And a lot of people also got burned, right?
A lot of people got scammed, right.
A lot of people bought Dogecoin, Toshiba.
A lot of people buy Bitcoin and they send it to somebody else
that sends them Adm and says they can make their, they can
turn their 500 bucks into $10,000 in a week.
So you know a lot of people got scammed that way.
So they're turned off to the space.
They lost money with like I said Dogecoin because the Elon.
So they're turned off to the space and they don't even really
want to hear it, you know, at the end of the, at the end of
the day, however, you know, once I give them some free Bitcoin
and I say, hey, inflation. Is real because I I tell them,
hey, you know the gas, how much is gas now?
How much is your groceries now? You know the same $20 bill is
not buying as much. And I just try to explain it to
them in that way, Educate them. Sometimes they push back,
sometimes they don't. They get it.
They a lot of a lot of a lot of times it doesn't click for them.
You know, it still doesn't click even though I give these
examples. So that's why I just give them
the Bitcoin and you know, they watch it grow.
And then they. And then you know when, when
it's their time, everybody buys Bitcoin at the price they
deserve. So if they don't get it after I
explain it to them, I've done my job.
I think it's an interesting like team that's coming back in this
podcast Now you're my 7th guest and everyone kind of mentions
the same and it's starting to dawn on me more and more.
Like we should ask more questions, you know, kind of
like less explaining, more asking questions.
Because it also took you and me as well like a while to actually
understand why does this thing exist, right?
And why this exists, is this exists is because there's a
problem with, you know, how good the money is.
And most people don't know that. So they first have to know, then
they have to understand, right? And then they have to understand
also. And Bitcoin is just really hard
to understand. I think still you know that that
is a possible solution, right? So there's like 3 steps.
And usually, you know, we begin somewhere within these three
steps, we begin to, we begin to talk, you know, But I think I
think a lot of people realize later on, like, OK, I know it.
I believe in it. I think everyone should have it,
you know, like, I think, you know, you know, even like what
you say, like if you use strong language or you're a bit
aggressive, like, it's just because you know and you love
these other people, right? And you just want them to know
as well, right? Like, I, I, I think and I
experienced the same. It's like a very altruistic
feeling because I think like, I'm good.
You're probably good, you know, Like you just want other people
to understand as well, right? And that is just what takes over
this kind of like enthusiastic talking type way while you
actually have to just be really chill and just ask questions
like do you think it's OK to to pay five times more for your
cucumber or your bread or your, you know, whatever you buy buy
in the store right over the over the years and then explain like
OK like then you have like a little thread that you can
basically pull from and just you know start answering questions
hopefully there, right. Absolutely.
I think you're absolutely right. Asking questions and letting
them kind of figure it out for themselves.
Like you said, it's it's not, it's not that I'm that we're
brash, right or we're aggressive.
It's we're passionate, right? And some people make mistake in
our passion for, you know, being rude or being aggressive or
being brash, right. And maybe sometimes it's both
right. Maybe sometimes people are just.
Idiots, right? So a lot of people are stupid,
right? So we have to keep that in mind
too. A lot of people are just stupid.
So at the same time, it's like a balance, right?
We have to find that balance, yeah.
Well, sometimes I think like, is it because I also know a lot of
super intelligent people that also don't want to get it right.
So sometimes I think, like, it's not really about intelligence.
It's really about, you know, do you have the capability of
challenging your beliefs, right. And think that think like when
someone tells you like, oh, well, the government influenced
the money, influences the money in a very bad way, and the
consequences are on the citizens.
You know, like when you say that, even now when I say it, I
feel like that sounds very bad, right?
So it's and it's just hard for people to believe because
they've maybe they think like well if I would be in charge, I
would ever do that, right. So I cannot imagine that someone
else would do that. But it's not really in this not
my opinion what I just said. It's just how it works, right.
So there's not really there's it's not really a discussion
point. It's kind of like, you know,
here's the fact. But if you are not able to well,
receive the fact that fact and then kind of like integrate it
and challenge what you thought was true, yeah, then it's it's a
really tough conversation. Right.
Absolutely. A lot of like, you're absolutely
right. A lot of, a lot of very
intelligent people or we would say they're intelligent, right.
Maybe because they have a degree or that they went to Harvard or
their economic, their economic, they went to school for
economics and they know how this system works.
And you know, the bankers people on TV, you know?
The newscasters, you know, they all, It's crazy how they know
nothing about what we know. And I feel like bitcoiners are
some of the smartest people on the planet, because we really
are, in my opinion. And it takes, it definitely
takes a lot of self reflection. It's really, it's really a
mirror to yourself and to your soul.
Like you said, you have to challenge yourself and what
you've been told, and even if you, even if you disagree.
You still need to, you know, check out that information to
verify a different point of view.
And that's why also Bitcoin Maximus are very mentally,
mentally intelligent people. Because you know, there's
Bitcoin SV, there's Bitcoin Cash, there's shit corners
selling you shit coins all the time.
There's there's that doubt, right, that comes into your mind
like Oh my God is, is Bitcoin really going to be the real
Bitcoin? Is there another going to be
another Bitcoin or? You know just all these
different attacks and self doubts and you know shit corners
and the economy and people, the news and just so many ways that
you're being attacked that's going to test your test your
conviction and test your faith and test your knowledge.
And if you don't know what you're talking about, you're not
going to be a Bitcoin Mexican and you're just going to fall
when right And probably get scammed and you're probably
going to buy Shiva Inu and get and get rug pulled or you're
probably going to buy. Does coin because Elon tweeted
it at $0.70 and then get rug pulled and then you're back to
square one? You either turned away from
crypto in general, or then you become a Bitcoin maxi.
So what? What do you think is like the
biggest hidden thing or risk in like the traditional financial
system that most people don't know or or that they overlook?
That when you put your money in the bank.
It's no longer your money. Also, saving money is probably
the dumbest thing that people can do.
And rich people don't save money, which, you know, I just
shared a video about that as well and I've been saying that
forever too. But you know, I think the
biggest thing people overlook is when they put their money into
the bank, it's not your money anymore.
They lend that money out to investors such as myself and
other real estate agents and you know, other business people as
well and. But again, fractional reserve
banking. You know, they lend that money
out 10 times, You put $100 in, they can loan out 1000.
And then again, if you save money in the bank with inflation
going on, you know, what are you saving your money for?
Just sitting there losing money. You're supposed to make your
money work. Of course you want to have, you
know, maybe a rainy day fund. That's different from the
savings account, right? Because you're savings.
What are you saving for? You should be.
Your money should be working for you.
Because if you don't, you're not going to beat inflation.
The best savings account is giving you .001% or .1% or even
1%, right? In a whole year.
Bitcoin is up 100%, almost 100% in less than a year.
So people don't even do simple math.
In American, people are just, you know, slow like that.
I don't know why, but. Or they just want security,
right? It's not about being slow.
They're more secure, right? Because Bitcoin fluctuates.
They're more at the more depth and, you know, just be secure.
So they want to be safe and when you play it safe you're going to
get. And does this also tie into.
I saw you shared I think, I don't know I think in your
Instagram like people, people pay too much for their homes.
Like you just also said like can you explain it how mortgage
works like actually works And maybe a funny story like why
also I started this podcast or how I got into Bitcoin.
I was 30 and I had a mortgage and I was working at a bank mind
you. And I talked to I talked to a
colleague and he said, did you know that the money in the bank
is not yours? And I said sorry what?
And then we had a conversation for an hour and then he
explained to me how it worked. And then I was like, OK, I feel
like an idiot, like I'm participating in this system,
but I have no clue. And I also had a mortgage.
And I knew, you know, you pay interest on your mortgage,
etcetera. But actually what wasn't that
bad with me because I had a really low like rate, but let's
say on a, yeah, $100,000 mortgage, you probably pay like
135 ish on 100,000. So you pay like 30% more, 40%
more. And I see your face maybe it's
more well, but still, but still. But still, you know, I think the
questions is like, OK, that's apparently the reward that a
bank, you know earns because they give you the money for that
amount of time. So apparently it's how it works.
But I think there's a lot of things with Bitcoin and then
I'll let you answer like there's a lot of things that are like
with Bitcoin, so many things in the traditional financial system
kind of sound stupid, right? Like what I just said, like if I
if I borrow 100K and I have to pay 130 hundred 40 over for
this, like, is that justified? Maybe it is, I don't know.
But like, it's not really explained.
It's just like this is how it works.
Do you want it or don't you want it?
You know, there's just like a yes or a no.
But you you don't. You just don't understand.
But you still do it right? Absolutely.
And I was saying, yeah, I made the face because like I said, I
think that's pretty good because here in America, you know,
interest rates now are a little bit higher now.
So they're about 8-9 percent. The example that I tweeted out
was I think was a four or 3% interest rate and at a three or
four interest rate over 30 years.
Again you're paying for the house damn near 3 times.
Literally damn near 3 times, like 2 1/2 times.
So there's ways to mitigate that by you know making extra
payments each month or each quarter to pay down you know
that interest or go directly to, you know principal cause a
majority of your payments like you said go to straight interest
only. So you know especially those
first couple years, I think it's the 1st 10 years of your
mortgage go straight to interest, so.
If you don't, most people don't know and they don't care.
And you know, real estate agents don't tell you that.
Mortgage brokers don't tell you that like you said and you just
you just into it. And unfortunately, that's the
way to Cookie Crump. And So what is wealth for you
then? Wealth is great question to me.
Bitcoin as well, right? Bitcoin is so many different
things, right? And for me, wealth is Bitcoin
because Bitcoin is going to be able to be passed down to
generations and generation. And as the generations receive
that Bitcoin right, and we educate them on Bitcoin, it's
going to be abundantly worth more, infinitely worth more as
the generations grow, go on. So for me, wealth is just being
able to have freedom and not being able to, not being, not
being tied to the system and being able to do what you want
when you want. And you know, being able to pass
that, that generational wealth, which is that freedom down to,
you know, your kids, your kids and your kids, kids, does that
tie into like, I like what saved Dina most?
When he talks about like prioritizing, I think he says
something like future security over over present happiness,
like short term, short term time preference, like short time
preference versus long time preference.
What do you think about that? I I actually use that analogy as
well with my credit repair program.
And you can use that with a lot of things in life, right.
If you go to the gym, you know you're not going to, you go to
the gym one day, you're not going to see results.
You know you're probably going to have to if you want to get,
depends depending on you know your diet and what you're
looking to accomplish. You're probably going to have to
be consistent in the gym six months to a year if you want to,
if you want to. Build wealth.
It's not something that's done, you know, in one year, two
years. It's a long term game, it's a
long term goal, it's a long term game.
So you know, absolutely you got to, you have to think about the
future. And I think once, once I had a
child and I know you have kids as well, once you have kids, it
it kind of clicks for you and a lot of people you know now are
not having kids due to financial reasons, which I can understand
why. But I think a lot of people
don't that don't have children are not, they don't really care
about the future because they're they're trying to make it, make
it them trying to make it through, you know, the day or
the week. Because a lot of people look
paycheck to paycheck And you know when when they're in that
survival mode, they don't. They don't want to think.
They don't have the capacity to think about the future because
they're trying to survive, you know, week to week or
day-to-day. Do you think that's also then
why we talked a bit about the rappers impressing us with all
the stuff they buy, right? Like, is that also why people
are like attracted to that, like that they think they also need
stuff and then they start buying stuff, right?
Like I talked about that this in the previous episode as well
like that because the money is kind of broken and people have
like this. Therefore also this short time
preference, they spend it on stupid stuff basically.
I think it has a lot to do with self worth and you know, maybe
the brain. Yeah, I think it's really about
self worth and the conditioning and programming of the of the
youth. I think if we were taught better
things and you know, listen to you know, different things
growing up, we wouldn't have that need.
But I also think it's it. It's again.
A lot of people don't have self worth in themselves, so they
look for things to buy. That's going to validate them,
not knowing that it's not going to validate them in the long
run. Yeah, What's like by other
people you mean then? Absolutely.
I also, and that's exactly why, you know, and again I used to
you know, little Wayne and we all know little Wayne.
Snoop Dogg, we all listen to, you know all those people.
But you know what? Are they really when you?
When I listen to like, some of the that music now, now that
I'm. I'm 34, so now that I listen to
some of that music, I'm like, yo, we used to listen to this.
Like, you're used to say something.
Yeah. When I was 16, I'm like, I would
not let my son listen to that at all.
Thinking about Lil Wayne. Amelie.
Amelie, Amelie. So you know when they buy, you
know cars and they say buy everything cash and you know
they're talking about women and you know drugs and.
All that stuff, all all that stuff is everything is a net
negative like it's a negative. There's nothing positive that
comes from listening to that music.
I guess besides the hustler hustlers mentality right in the
hustle and you know to get money right.
But if you're getting that money and you're spending it right,
because the, the, the saying is I'm going to get money and get
money fast and blow it fast, right, and get it, I'm going to
get it and blow it in because I'll make it right back like.
That's not the way to think about money.
So that's actually pretty dumb, right?
It's funny. It's like, Oh my goodness.
But but I I want to touch upon this like I love rap music.
Like I was, AI was, AI was. I was like a village boy.
Who doesn't. I was like a village, like a
white village boy with 1000 people in the village.
I was just listening to rap. All day.
So it's not this is not like to to to diss the rappers, but I
find it so interesting that like also what you said, like it
influences culture so much, right?
And this showing off. But I don't know now that we're
talking about it's like some stuff just really doesn't make
sense. Like it's not cool.
It's actually fucking stupid. If you make a lot of money and
you blow it all like it's. Very dumb, right?
Buying a Car, But why? As soon as you the stupid.
Also weird. Stupidest thing you can do is to
buy a car. Car.
And I say this and I say this, and you know, I say so much that
it probably gets lost in the tweets, right?
It gets lost in the post. It gets lost.
Yeah, yeah. But you know, the dumbest thing
you can do is to buy a car cash. First of all, when you buy a
car, cash. As soon as you drive it off the
lot, it loses value. Yeah, yeah.
Second of all, I think of a little baby.
A little baby. I spent 500 wrecks on a Lambo
and didn't even know how to make them a fucker go.
Thinking about that I. Mean Sorry.
Finish your sentence. No, no, you're good.
You're absolutely this is a good subject.
I I I think this is a good subject.
It's so interesting. Like why?
But why is that so? Logically, it's kind of stupid
to follow that advice, right? But it does influence like
society in a sense. Right?
Like and even. Like.
Of course I I observe America from a distance, right?
Like Twitter. But like, I see these videos of
people in the club, They are like buying crystal or
champagne. They're pouring it like they're
pouring it. Empty to battle like they buy
it. It's like $300.00, right?
Because can you, can you elaborate on that?
Like do you know what's going on there?
Like why is that? Is that a thing?
I don't know. The reason why?
Yeah, it's it's oh man, it's a it's a great topic.
It's a great subject and like you're saying and it's it's the
culture and I think it's if we want to get, I think it's more
of a spiritual thing. I believe in God and I believe
in, you know, I believe that there are forces out here that's
going to, that's trying to, you know, sway the youth and they've
done a good job. And I think that when you buy a
$50 bottle of alcohol in the club for $300.00 and then you
pour it out and then you buy another one and then you pour it
out and then you throw money, right?
And then you're throwing money in there and making it rain,
right? Unless you're a smart business
person and you're writing that off.
That makes sense, right? Like networking expense or what?
Like what do you? Which I hope they're doing,
because that would be stupid to tell.
If they're not, that would be great.
Or marketing? Market expenses in the sense
someone films it. Absolutely.
That makes Teach the man preach this, please.
Yeah, that makes sense if you're doing that as a marketing sense.
And if you're like an upcoming rapper and artist and you're
doing that, you can also, you can also write that off as an
expense. You should have an LLC.
You should be operating as a business in general and you
should put your car in the business, right.
And that way it's a write off and that way you say taxes and
you know that you know all that good stuff, but you know it's
really just the influence and into into you know, get the
youth lost. Because again, if you're if
you're drinking all this alcohol, you're smoking weed.
I used to smoke weed and there's nothing wrong with smoking weed,
right? You can smoke weed if you want.
I don't anymore. I used to smoke since I was 14
and I actually quit this year. Because I didn't want to smoke
anymore. And that's fine if you smoke.
I know I'm not hating. No smokers.
I used to smoke all the time. I love weed, but you know, I
stopped. But if you're drinking it, it,
it impairs your decision making, right?
Then you're smoking weed, right? And then you're popping pills,
right? And then you're drinking lean,
right? Because this is all the things
that they promote, right? And they make it look cool.
So all the kids that are 12131415161718192021, they're
seeing you guys doing, they look up to you.
So now they think it's cool and now they're drinking and
driving, popping pills, all this crazy stuff.
It's a net negative, man. And it's really just to sway and
to, you know, get our children lost, man.
And you know, ever since I I had a child and you know, ever since
I've come to that realization, man, I call out rappers all the
time. I used to call out.
Meek Mill used to call out. Soulja Boy, I used to call.
I have to call out anybody. You know, all rappers, you know,
in general, But you know, Meek Mill would be online talking
about those coin and all these crazies.
I'm like, bro, stop it. You're going to get everybody
wrecked. And he got everybody wrecked.
And So what? Last thing about this, when I
talked to British huddle huddle in the in the first episode of
the podcast, he said something about you know like everything
bad or everything also bad with like culture, societies like
downstream from the money. Is this also then like one
example of that in a sense like the broken?
Yeah, How do you say like the broken example basically for the
youth? Let me think about that for a
second. It could that, could that be, I
don't think. I don't think that's because of
the money. I think that's a moral and
spiritual attack you know, which leads into the money and I think
the money is is a part of it but I don't think it's because of
the money. I think it's really a spiritual
attack and a again it it's something to just pretty much
destroy our our community and the kids right and the lead us
on the on on the wrong path. So I don't think it's the money.
For say at this, I just think it's like what?
Like the evil, evil powers that be right They And so yeah, they
don't want you to win. They don't want you to win.
So how does Bitcoin then change your thinking?
Like what topics does it touch for you?
It changed my thinking because as we just talked about it.
I went from thinking about, you know, buying Louis Vuitton,
Gucci, you know, being being a rapper myself, you know, I used
to, you know, I like, I like nice things and it's nothing
wrong with buying nice things as long as you can afford it,
right? But I think the way to go about
this is to 1st buy assets or start a business and then you
know, then you can buy all your toys, right?
And it changed my thinking. I'm buying.
I don't even go shopping like that anymore.
If I shop now, it's for my kids, it's for my girl.
It's, you know, I really don't buy anything for me.
So it changed my mindset on, you know, buying frivolous and
stupid things, right? So now I don't buy.
I don't buy anything that I don't really even think that I
want. I'm like, do I really want this?
And even my girl, I'm like, do I buy more?
Bitcoin, even my girl. I'm like, you know, we should
have just bought some more Bitcoin instead of going out
tonight. But you know, I love taking my
girl out and whatnot, but besides that, man, I don't buy
anything for me. Honestly, it's very
recognizable, Like I got some nice watches and I have 20 pairs
of sneakers, but now I live like a monk.
Almost like very frugal. You know, but it's it's really
about I, I, I, I have the same faults.
Like do I want to buy this or. Yeah, like why do I actually
want to buy this? You know, like I start thinking
like what to do what? Like do I need another dis or
another dad? But yeah, it's interesting.
I also really like what you just said about just like this
spiritual part. Like I I feel the same actually.
I like another episode with Mark.
We talked about this like the spiritual journey into into
Bitcoin like well, what what can you share about that?
Because you mentioned it a few times and I I it's funny like
you're the 7th guest. But I see so many overlap
between like the journey people have from doing the work but
also seeing the spiritual part and challenging yourself and
letting go of certain beliefs and stuff.
So, like, what's your, what's your point of view there?
Yeah, Bitcoin is. So I believe in God.
And, you know, back when I was younger, I used to do a lot of,
I used to drink. I used to, you know, take Xanax.
I used to smoke weed. I used to party a lot, right.
And during my experiences, I took ecstasy.
You know, I've done a lot in my days and I and I could have died
a couple times. And I thank God that, you know,
I know it's God because trust me, I could have died a couple
times. And I know if it wasn't for God,
then I wouldn't be here right now.
So. During my adolescent in my
younger years, I I took shrooms, right?
I'm sure you're familiar with shrooms.
So I've taken shrooms and that opened up my mind and helped me
to understand and you know, look at life differently.
And I also microdosed as well here and there.
So that really helps me, you know, stay humbled and stay
grounded. And the Bitcoin is.
It just really reveals who you are because as you just
mentioned, it makes you think about things that you really
didn't think about before, and it makes you question why.
Like you said, why do I want to buy this?
And when you start asking yourself these questions, like
why am I, why am I thinking that I need to buy this?
And what is making me want to buy this?
It makes you take a deeper journey into yourself, and it
makes you realize that you're programmed and that you've been.
You've been brainwashed since you're a kid.
OK, You like, like, I have a nice watch on.
I have a nice ring on. But you know, do I need this
stuff? No, I don't.
Why do I want it? Because it's shiny.
Because I've been towed. Because of marketing.
Because of commercials. Because we've been brainwashed.
But. Still, right?
Still, I I find it interesting like I have the same like you
know this, but you still have to watch.
Like I'm not judging, but it's interesting, right?
That it's still it's not fully away or else you would have sold
it maybe right? Like like it's it's very deeply
ingrained. I bought this watch a long time
ago. So this watch is not a new part.
No, no, it's fine. Like, it's not about the watch.
But I think like it. It's just, I know that was just
my point. Like, it's just ingrained, like
very deeply, right. Like, I know I'm not going to
live. Like, you know what?
What the Steve Jobs doing with his mattress and like, one plate
and a fork. No.
You know are are, are are like these funny memes like on
Twitter, like nowadays guys live like with you see like this blow
up bed and like ATV and a PlayStation or something like
no, no, and that's that. Like yes, you could go there,
but it's more the point that it's so deeply ingrained, right.
And that it's so deeply ingrained that you have to, you
have to actually go on a journey, in a sense.
And then another thing as well is is is this ties to traveling?
Right. Because I travel a lot and I
went to Jamaica, been to Cancun. I want to go to the continent of
Africa and visit a few countries there.
But you know when you travel like, and I say this all the
time, that Americans are spoiled rotten and I guess the Europeans
as well, I'm not sure how spoiled you guys are because I'm
not a I'm not a European probably, yes, yes.
Compared to these, I say yes, absolutely.
Compared to, you know, 100%. Compared to Africa compared to
Jamaica, Mexico. You know, you don't realize how
good we have it until you go to these countries, right?
And you see how people live with way less than us.
No AC, they don't. None of the luxuries.
Nothing. No.
And they're happy. And we're here in America,
spoiled rotten. And we get pissed off if
McDonald's gets our I don't eat McDonald's.
But you know, people get mad if their food's messed up.
Or the clown world videos. Exactly now.
But I, I Dude, seriously, like I said this in the previous
episode as well. Like I realized that my
upbringing, like the millennials, especially in
Western Europe and also America, I think, but but let's say in
Western Europe more we had it like the best anyone has ever
had in the entirety of humanity, Right?
So yeah, like I know. So I, I and I, I, I know.
But I also think that the traveling that you mentioned
like that really helps in perspective.
I don't know if I really like integrated this, but I do know
that I'm very, very lucky, right.
And that other people have had way, way, way worse.
And I also feel that it's kind of for me that is with Bitcoin,
like it's a responsibility to help other people.
Like I feel inclined almost to do that or at least try to do
that right. So just like this podcast is
just, I'm starting out, I don't know what I'm doing, you know,
and just see if we can reach more people like that that that
would be great. And interestingly, absolutely
collectively we all play a part in, you know, orange filling,
you know, the masses, but. You know, I I highly recommend
that you, you know if you haven't gone to you know Mexico
or you know any just any third world country or just anywhere
that's not you know, it's it's Lux.
As luxurious as what we have, where we have it and how we have
it. You know it it'll make you, you
know I'm a I'm a sensitive person you know.
So you know I went to Mexico and it's like then where is this?
It's like like a little island, right.
And I was walking down the street and.
The person I was with at the time, with the girls with at the
time, you know, I had on this nice.
It wasn't Versace, but it looked like a Versace shirt.
It was a nice shirt. And some dude was like, hey, I
like your shirt. And I'm like, you really like
it. And like, yeah, I like it.
And he has like, he has like the most raggedy clothes on him,
like, Oh my God, I like 1 to cry And I'm like.
I just took off my shirt and gave it to him.
Yeah, well, like, what am I doing?
Yeah, like, right, like, Oh my God, let me.
I gave him the shirt and he almost started crying.
He's like, you really giving me this shirt.
I'm like, yeah, Dad, it's just a shirt, man.
I have a closet full of shirts that I don't even wear.
You can have this shirt and I'm walking around.
And then after that I'm just walking around like, man, we got
a maid and you know, I went to Jamaica.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to Jamaica.
Go ahead. Yeah, no problem.
I went to Jamaica on a cruise. Back in 20, probably 1516 and I
went to Jamaica. You know they're chilling with
in the. They're chilling in huts, right.
They got clay playhouses and it's hot as hell.
They have no AC, but they're happy, man.
And you know, I have some friends that live in Haiti and
you know, he goes down with all of our old shoes and all of our
old clothes that we hate and that are dirty and he goes over
there. And they're ecstatic and they're
crying and they're happy. And he gives it away and we
don't even like it and we don't even wear it.
And they have nothing on their feet, They're barefoot, they
don't have any clothes, They can barely eat.
So, you know, once I, once I experienced that, man, it it
really changed my my perspective on how we live.
And that's why I always That's why I talk as much shit as I do.
Because we are really spoiled in America and we don't know how
good we have it. Yeah, I fully agree, man.
I I think it's really good to like, take moments like this and
actually think about this, right?
Because we are just doing our thing and every day is another
day. Yeah, bro.
This phone is $1000. I'm on another phone.
It's $1000. These kids don't even have
phones. You know, we complain, oh, we,
oh, I don't have Wi-Fi or I'm losing service and we get so
pissed and we're so irate and they don't even have Internet.
I have to think of, I think it's Louis CK or BE or or Bill Burr.
They have like, I think it's Louis CK.
He has like a bit where he says, you know what I hate when you're
like on a plane and there's Wi-Fi and then there's people
who pay for the Wi-Fi, way too much money, right, For the
Wi-Fi. And then he starts complaining
that it doesn't fucking work, what the fuck?
I just paid and the Wi-Fi doesn't work.
And then he says, like, seriously, think about it.
You're in a plane in the air, there's Wi-Fi.
You are able to pay for the Wi-Fi.
And you're so privileged. I'm not the and you're so
complaining about that the Wi-Fi in my plane towards my holiday
destination does not work. Like, man, Oh yeah, I have to
think of that that's. Yeah.
But it's good to think about that.
Like, also sorry. Like I I love the psychedelics
topic. I can talk for days.
But I wanted to ask you like, is that like a way to?
I don't want to call it a shortcut because I also think
psychedelics take work, actual work.
But it is a way to, like, humble yourself when you come from a
privileged place like America or like a Western country.
What do you think of that? Like, I just had to think of
that, like, it helps you for the perspective in a sense, right?
Like zoom out, see your place in the world, or the Infinity of
the universe, basically. You hit the nail right on the
head. Zoom out.
Because that's exactly what happened, is that you zoom,
you're you're you're lifted out of your body, right?
And you get to see it from a different perspective.
You're also connecting the neural pathways in your brain,
and you're using different parts of your brain that you never
used before. You're activating different
parts of your brains and you know it It when I've taken
shrews before. There's been times when I've
taken shrooms and I've been and I cried the whole time and I was
just out. It wasn't a sad cry, it was a
I'm so thankful cry. Yeah, it's a not a relief.
It was a I'm so thankful cry because whatever it is that I
was thinking about at that time, it was the complete opposite.
So it brings you to a place where I think it brings you to a
place where you need to. Need to be right and not to take
shrooms to like OD and trip out and you know be be messed up on
it, right? Or go to a party.
You know, you take enough. Maybe for me, mine is like 3
grams, 3 1/2 grams is A8. Maybe that's for some people
that's maybe a little bit too much. 2 grams, 3 grams.
Hey, that's enough for me to, you know, get a nice, you know,
a nice trip is what we call it. And you know, just.
Just breathe, right? That's exactly what you do.
You just take a deep breath and relax, man.
And you go sit out in the porch, right?
And you go sit down and you calm yourself and you just, you just
relax, man. It's the best thing I've ever
done. One of the best things I've ever
done is is taking shrooms and enlighten me.
I feel more and more people are are into this and and and like
researching and wanting to try this.
Actually just had a friend over. He's like 48 and he was like, I
want to try. I want to try this together
once, you know, and I said OK, yeah, but I'm really excited.
He said, I said OK, well we can do this, but but like even like
all these, I don't know what it is.
But I think like people need currently like there's there's
kind of this, I don't know, I don't know like this undertone
of people that like want to know more about life or something,
right. Like, they realized that it's
just going every day and then at one moment it's two weeks later
and they're like, oh, damn. Like this is another two weeks
going by, like, what? Kind of like, what?
I want to say, like what is going on?
You know, Like they want to take this moment to reflect.
And I think, yeah, the psychedelics just really help
you to gain like a new, new perspective.
Kind of like take AI. Don't want to say take a break,
but just stand still for a minute and take that moment.
And it gives you another level of of appreciation and.
I'm just thankful, you know that I was able to you know embark on
that journey and I don't think I would be the same person if I
didn't And I I encourage everyone that you know, don't
take too much if it's your first time taking it and you're
watching this. Just be careful, you know?
And don't you gotta lean in. You gotta lean.
Into it and being a take it in on a good mood.
Don't take it when you're upset. You know and I highly recommend
that you you know micro dose if you if you're able to do so and
you know. I highly recommend that you guys
just take that spiritual journey and look deep within yourself,
right? And and reflect and like you
said, take it, take a deep breath and be still because
we're moving so fast. And I actually just got off the
phone with one of my friends and I've been telling them to buy
Bitcoin and I've been telling them to fix his credit.
And a lot of my people that I know, a lot of my friends that
are that are very close and I don't have a lot of close
friends because, you know, I tell the truth and a lot of
people are offended by the truth, unfortunately.
So my close friends that I do, that I'm cool with, you know,
I'll fix their credit for free. And I've been telling him to
send me his ID and so I can do all the stuff.
He still hasn't done it. But I was on the phone with him
today and he said, man, I'm just tired of paying bills.
I'm tired of working just to pay bills.
And this ties back into Bitcoin. And you know, I explained to him
why Bitcoin is important again and he's been stacking a little
bit. And he said, man, he's just
tired of, you know, working to pay bills.
That and being stressed out and. You know, it's just going
through the motions of life and like you said, 1111 minute
you're here and then next, next one, one day you're 16 years
old, next day you're 30, right? Like you, time is time is going
to lose them. And so to hear him say that, it
just reminded me of me, right? And it reminded me of Bitcoin
and saying that we are tired of the system and we're tired of
being manipulated and we're trying to being exploited and
we're going to fight back. And that's what Bitcoin.
So what's what's, what's your shortest answer to how how
Bitcoin can contribute to personal and financial freedom.
Then like I said, shortest because I think you can probably
go for long on this, but like, what's the core of that I'd say.
Let's start. Let's start with what is yours
and then I'll go. Because I don't.
I don't. I don't.
I'm not sure how to, how to. I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
So when I realized that the money in the bank wasn't mine,
and I actually read up on it like how it works, like my, my
conclusion that when I put my money on the bank, I basically
borrowed or I lend it to the bank, they borrowed for me,
that's contractually I sign for that actually when I open an
account. And then they try to make more
money of it, right. Like that's their business
model, which is fine because I think banks started as like a
credit facilitator for businesses etcetera.
Like I think that's necessary. Of course now there's all these
other things you can you can think a lot of that, but let's
say you know that's just their business model.
But when I realized that when it goes great and the bank makes a
lot of money, I don't see any upside of that, right.
Only only the people who hold their stock or get dividends,
like they they see the upside of that.
But when it goes bad, I do, I do get like you know the results
there, right. So for people listening like in
in America you have the FDIC insurance right up until I don't
know. Well now it's kind of like a
battle how high it can go. But let's say 250K for now in in
my country it's 100K, right. So if the bank loses your money,
quote UN quote, you get that money back.
That's the insurance that is there.
But, but where does that money come from?
Oh, that money comes from the government.
Where does the money from the government come from?
That comes from the citizens, right.
So when I kind of like went through that and thought like I
don't want to participate in that, not like in an anti bank
way, but it just doesn't make sense for me.
And so when I realized that there's that my money or that
what I earned was trapped in a system that I couldn't really,
like, rationalize and agree with to participate in that sense.
And I knew about Bitcoin, and I learned more than when.
And this was my biggest one of my biggest, like clicks when it
clicked was, hey, I can move that what I own to another
place, which I can argument is prove provably better.
And that has given me a lot of freedom in the sense that I'm a
pretty risky first person. And I once heard also someone
said like you, you have an extra job that you don't know you
have, right? Like you have to mitigate the
risk of having your money in the bank and due to inflation in the
basement, it's melting away like you.
That's why people invest in stuff, or they do like these
stupid stonks or stupid meme coins or or whatever, right?
So you already take risk because you have a job or you have a
venture or something. But then when you come home, you
basically start your second job, which is taking more risk to
mitigate something that is happening by default, right?
The the debasement of the money is a programmed thing in the
current financial system. And yeah, my my conclusion was I
don't want to do that because I'm not a risk risk taking guy.
I want something boring and safe and that's actually why I'm in
Bitcoin. And that is what's given me a
lot of freedom in not having to think about other investments
and stuff. I don't have any other
investments, basically. Yeah, that's gave me freedom.
Freedom in my mind and also eventually, well, what we just
mentioned, like I yeah, I just live like I don't have the
Bitcoin, I live pretty frugal and yeah, that's it.
Awesome. Awesome.
I try. It's hard though.
It's still hard. Like, it's I I I have the same
kind of like beliefs as you write.
Like to buy stupid stuff sometimes.
But yeah, I think that's what's giving me freedom.
Like just less to think about, like there's less in my head.
Absolutely. All right.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think that's a great way to put it in.
I'm sure there's a lot of people that can relate with that as
well. And like you said, if you're not
risk adverse and you want to be safe, right, Bitcoin is the way
to go and not only is it. Safe.
It's the best asset ever on planet Earth.
Ever. Ever.
I don't know why people don't
understand. It's the best asset ever that's
ever been. Why?
Just say one sentence.
Why? Well, it's that is a challenge,
I know. Yeah, that's a challenge.
The best asset ever. Bitcoin is freedom.
Yeah. Yeah, go ahead now.
Yesterday I tweeted to someone like Bitcoin is the thing.
Wait, I have to say it correctly like I want to look up the
tweet, but I think it's like engineered, the closest approx
approximation of engineered truth.
That's what I said. And so it's code, It's just
code. It's just rules, open rules that
anyone can adopt if they want to.
And if they adopt it, they have to play by the rules.
If they don't play by the rules, they cannot adopt it, right?
So it's just that thing and you have to agree on that thing.
That's why I say truth, because it is that and you accept that
or you cannot play. That's why I call it truth.
And that is just it. It's just a set of rules and you
can do whatever you want. You can adopt it or not, but the
thing just keeps on going. Like it doesn't care if you
adopt it or not. That's right.
Sorry, but I want to, didn't want to interrupt.
No, you're good. So when I Bitcoin for me.
When I learned. That again, the money is being
debased. We're being duped.
We're being stolen from our children are being stolen from
the banking. The banking cartels, you know,
abuse us. The government's abuse us.
They lie, they steal, they cheat, and they smile on their
face and lie on media all day. Once I figured that out and I
saw the light. And I learned about Bitcoin and
and figured out that I can escape the system, escape the
matrix, and, you know, have something that I can actually
own and move it without permission.
I'm, I hate asking for permission.
So Bitcoin is permissionless freedom, power, wealth, and so
much more. All in one.
And once you understand that, and once you grasp that, and
once you have conviction, you'll get bitcoins added on you,
right? Even on your face on your arm
and you'll stack away and you won't.
You won't, you won't. You'll have laser eyes right.
We're focused right. Laser eyes focus on Bitcoin.
And I highly recommend everybody just stack some Bitcoin.
And you know if you guys have any questions or or concerns you
know make sure you hit us up. Bitcoin for millennials.
Thank you for having me on. It's been a great hour session.
Great hour talk and. Congratulate you for your new
podcast, and I know you'll do a great job of, you know, orange
peeling the masses. I'll try.
Man, thanks so much for being on.
I have one last question. Absolutely.
And that I ask everyone what's a, what's a core belief that you
will never let go? Let me think about that one more
belief. I have a few, but I'll just
stick to this one. There's no white.
There's no black. There's no purple, yellow,
green. We're all one humanity.
We're all one of you. We're all one human, right?
There's one race, the human race, and we're all one one
color. That's the color orange.
We're all bitcoiners. And we're also taking back
another. I love.
I love that man. I actually want to add something
to this. I've been waiting, actually, to
say this, like, I want to spread this more.
So I have a son. He's five years old, right?
He's seen tall people, small people, fat people, thin people.
And like he was, he was watching something on Netflix, like some
animation thing, like a bunch of different children, like, right,
like six children playing with each other.
And I asked him, like, who do you like the best?
Or, like who do you like the most?
And then he said the girl in the red dress, and it was a black
girl. And I thought, this is so
amazing, man, this child is five years old and he does not see
color. Color.
Seeing color or judging on color is the most stupidest thing.
Ever. And I love that you talked about
this like again like he sees all these different types of people.
He has never ever said anything about skin color.
Never. And that's just you know I don't
I don't know what to say like the the we have to listen to the
kids like what is going like what is going on.
So I absolutely love that you that you talked about that
because that is. I love that.
That's the love that we. Yeah, that's a perfect ending.
And that's the love that we need in the world, you know, And
there's so many things that they try to divide us with, with race
and color and ethnic religion and where you live and all that.
It's like, Oh my God, no, we're all human.
We're supposed to love each other.
And you know, all of us collectively, you know, God made
us all right and we're all together, God.
And you know, we come from God. So I think that's just how we
should live. Then like I said, we're all
orange, we're all good corners, and we're all Satoshi Nakamoto.
Thanks man. So where where can people follow
you? I'll link to your YouTube and
your Twitter like, but like what's the best way?
I'll send you the links as well. And yeah, so my music page is
Chris Knight four O 7. My Bitcoin page is at sign
Bitcoin Chris on Twitter, it's Chris Knight four O 7, Instagram
Chris Knight Four O 7. That's why I'm sending the link.
It's a lot. And then you can just click the
links down below and then Facebook.
It's official Bitcoin, Chris. Awesome, man.
Well, let's stay in touch and talk soon.
Absolutely. Much respect and thank you so
much for having me on, brother. Thanks man.
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