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A lot of people talk about the 
financial benefits of Bitcoin, 

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but in this episode of Bitcoin 
for Millennials, we're going to 

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talk about something far more 
profound, the psychological 

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relief that it brings you. 
I'm joined by Gospel Drini and 

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we dive into how living on a 
Fiat standard where your money 

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loses value every day, literally
breeds nihilism, depression, and

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anxiety. 
Gus shares his personal journey 

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of working 60 hours a week to 
provide for his family and how 

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escaping the Fiat rat race gave 
him his time, peace, and hold 

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back. 
Together we explore what it 

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means to actually reap the 
fruits of your labour and why 

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adopting a Bitcoin standard is 
the ultimate way to stay 

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positive about the future. 
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it would mean a lot to me if you
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Thanks a lot. 
Now let's dive in to this 

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episode. 
All right, Gospel Drini. 

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Welcome back to Bitcoin for 
Millennial. 

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Thank you so much for having me 
brother. 

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I appreciate your time and I 
know it's hard to get some time 

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to do these because especially 
when you have children and and 

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jobs, you know, So thank you for
having me. 

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Well, thanks again for, for 
coming on. 

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I, we talked, I don't know, 
probably 18 months ago or 

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something like that. 
And I, I really enjoyed our 

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conversation because I think, 
you know, you're an amazing 

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example of, of someone who is 
very hard working trying to 

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provide for his family and 
really found Bitcoin as a way to

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protect yourself and your family
and be positive about the 

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future, et cetera. 
So I'm very excited to, to kind 

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of like make a sequel on our, 
our, our previous conversation 

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because I learned some new stuff
about you, you know, you, you 

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also post on X and like your 
thoughts on, on, on, on Bitcoin.

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And I think it would be fun to 
kind of explore that together. 

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And like the, the biggest thing 
that you told me that you think 

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we are really, you know, on the 
brink of, let's say, a mass 

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awakening regarding Fiat money, 
right? 

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And so I wanted to ask you what,
what does that look like? 

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Like, what is the tipping point,
right? 

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I think for, for, for 
bitcoiners. 

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And you know, I talk about this 
a lot, right? 

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Like at 1 moment in time, we 
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curious enough, we dove in and 
then we kind of couldn't Unsee 

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it anymore, right? 
But as you probably also 

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experienced, when you start 
talking about this with other 

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people, they're they're not 
always, you know, reacting in a 

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in a similar way. 
So what do you think is needed 

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for people to actually 
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Hey, there's really something 
going on with the money. 

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This morning I was pondering 
upon that and I, I've, I can't 

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help but notice that the, the 
banks and the major corporations

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are, are front running the, you 
know, the everyday working class

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for now. 
For now, you know, there's two 

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paths we could take. 
I think it will be the, the, the

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first one, which is something's 
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It's going to collapse. 
And I mean by collapse is that 

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people will realize that America
has so much debt. 

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And I never stopped posting 
about this on Instagram too. 

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They print money out of thin 
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They, they broke the gold peg in
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The dollar is backed by nothing 
but oil. 

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And now with all this commotion,
we'll see what happens. 

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But there will be a mass 
awakening for sure, especially 

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now that we have these, you 
know, the phones and everybody's

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connected. 
So they'll know, you know, 

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they'll know. 
And Bitcoin is truth is 

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self-evident. 
You know, when people see it, 

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they're like, ah, there it is. 
And they study it and they can 

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tell from my everyday life when 
I talk to my friends and family,

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I think maybe because they know 
me, but maybe not like most 

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people my age and younger, 
they've heard about Bitcoin. 

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So it's gonna eventually they'll
connect the dots just like I 

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did, in my opinion. 
Yeah, I, I recently had a, had a

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podcast with Brennan Quitam and 
we talked about, you know, he 

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did this research on like the 
personality types, right? 

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And I, I agree that, you know, 
it'll become more clear to more 

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people, at least I certainly 
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Right. 
But having kind of like the 

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motivation to actually dive into
kind of think about like, what 

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can I do about it, right? 
Like that, that feels very 

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daunting, I think for a lot of 
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Or they just feel like, Hey, 
this is just by definition 

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something I cannot change, 
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There's other other people that 
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So I'm kind of putting my trust 
in, in them. 

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And I do think like with this 
issue, it, it is also quite 

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hard, right? 
Because with a lot of other 

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issues, that is still the case, 
right? 

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You just think like, Hey, I'm 
not, you know, it's just very 

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far from me, maybe doesn't 
affect me too much, right? 

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But with money, I think, you 
know, it would actually be way 

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more apparent that you actually 
have to figure something out. 

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But it still seems like, you 
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the bankers print we had money 
out of thin air is is is obvious

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to us, but still dismissed by a 
lot of people that that is 

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actually the issue. 
Do you think that is like the 

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main thing or like the truth, 
like something that people need 

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to accept or is there is there 
something else? 

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Like what? 
What do you get in terms of 

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feedback when you try to talk to
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I think just like anything, it's
like a slow realization. 

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You know, the thing that really 
captured me so quickly into 

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Bitcoin is that my curiosity, 
I've always been curious about 

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learning things about religions 
and dive deep into these 

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subjects and eventually it's 
going to be inevitable. 

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Like the thing with Vemo, like I
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once and everybody was going to 
buy pizza and they were all 

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chipping in. 
I had no cash and my buddies 

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like, oh, just Vemo me, you 
know, I had no idea what them 

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was. 
And then he told me about it 

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and, and just I connected my 
bank account in minutes and sent

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him 5 bucks and that was it. 
But I didn't know about Venmo 

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and just for overnight I knew 
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It's going to be just like that 
with Bitcoin. 

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My opinion, I don't know if you 
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cash app, it's all the 
applications we use here in 

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North America. 
Everybody has them and now they 

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see the ticker for Bitcoin is 
the first thing when when it 

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says crypto, I call it craptow, 
but it says Bitcoin and the 

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price is there. 
And now people are starting to 

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look more and more. 
And then they'll hear something 

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in TV and then a podcaster say 
this why? 

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So is what why it's so important
that you can see now with 

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influencers, people who have 
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people, political pundits, 
podcasters, they talk about 

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Bitcoin here and there, you 
know, and then people are going 

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to start hearing Bitcoin more 
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everybody is aware. 
And then they'll see the 

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problem. 
They'll observe it. 

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They'll say, wait a minute, the 
America made gold illegal, you 

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know, in the 1930s, Executive 
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broke the gold peg. 
It's, it's going to connect. 

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And I do think that's the most 
important thing because if you 

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think about it, you're working 
so hard, man. 

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Everybody here is working. 
Everybody in the world, you 

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know, especially the third 
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Can you imagine making a dollar 
a day for America to just Sprint

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the, the, And I think Europe 
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other countries. 
It has a huge influence. 

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Europe is very powerful, but 
they just print the money that 

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everybody has to use. 
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But eventually they're going to 
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this? 
What's going on here? 

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Like stake is like 10 times what
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You know, right now it's like 
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But eventually it gets worse and
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And now Americans are starting 
to feel how the third world has 

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always felt, which is price 
increases in Argentina, 

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Venezuela. 
Everyone's used to it, 

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unfortunately, right? 
You see the, the the, the 

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Bitcoin price in their Fiat 
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It's ridiculous through the 
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The dollar is going to be a 
slower rise, but still it's 

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going to climb. 
You know, people get annoyed. 

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I don't even look at prices 
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Bitcoin is going to be the 
world's unit of account. 

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I just, I just DCA buy Bitcoin 
and wait and you know, people 

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eventually are going to Bitcoin 
doesn't do anything until it 

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does, right. 
Remember that the rallies in 

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2023-2024, you saw 3033, 3035, 
you know, 3540, it kept going up

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and up. 
That's what's going to happen. 

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You know, especially now with we
keep forgetting that the 

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institutions are here and the 
banks are here and not only the,

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the ETFs and, and not to 
mention, of course, the, the 

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Bitcoin ETF from BlackRock was 
the most successful ETF in 

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American history, possibly in 
the world history, but I don't 

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know much of world history. 
And eventually all these banks, 

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they're all interconnected and 
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They all owe each other our own 
each other and they're all the 

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people it's going to trick hole 
down and it's going to be of 

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course, grassroots from us. 
That's why, like you say you're 

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worried sometimes, You know, you
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that people don't seem to be 
carrying as much, but because of

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people like us, and I'm not toot
my own horn, but we are like you

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see the guys on Twitter X, it's 
grown everyday, dude. 

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I don't know where these people 
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People I didn't even know. 
You know, there's the old 

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accounts that follow you that 
you interact with and then more 

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start popping up and you're 
like, oh, nice, more people are 

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joining. 
Oh, Class of 2025, Class of 

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2026, more people are coming. 
I see it. 

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We just don't see it because 
it's the grand, grand scheme of 

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things. 
You know, we're small humans in 

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the end of the day. 
If something happened to you 

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tomorrow, could your family 
access your Bitcoin? 

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Not probably not. 
They'd figure it out, but with 

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certainty. 
I thought about this a lot. 

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Whatever custody solution you 
are using, inheritance is a 

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piece most people haven't solved
yet. 

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Billions in Bitcoin have already
been lost because someone died 

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without a plan. 
With on ramp. 

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Inheritance planning is built 
directly into your custody 

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setup. 
Your Bitcoin stays segregated 

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and in your control, secured 
across independent institutions 

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in multiple jurisdictions, 
insured through Lloyds of 

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London, and accessible to the 
people you choose when they need

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it. 
And it doesn't matter where in 

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the world you or they are. 
You can book a free consultation

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to learn more at 
onlinebitcoin.com/brom. 

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That's onlinebitcoin.com/brom. 
Most people stop too early with 

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Bitcoin. 
They buy it, maybe move it to a 

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wallet, and think they are done,
but they're not. 

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The real questions are how 
you're securing it, how private 

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your setup is, and whether 
you're verifying your own 

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transactions or trusting someone
else. 

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And what happens to your Bitcoin
when something happens to you. 

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This is the layer that most 
people ignore, and it's the most

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important one. 
That's why I've been working 

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with the Bitcoin way to help you
set up self custody properly, 

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including privacy, 
cybersecurity, inheritance, and 

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even running your own note. 
And they do it without ever 

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touching your Bitcoin. 
They're not a custodian, they're

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your support team. 
If you're serious about this 

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like I am, go to 
thebitcoinway.com/bram. 

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That's Bram to book a free call.
They'll walk you through your 

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setup, personalize everything to
you, and help you get a much 

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stronger position very quickly, 
whether you're a beginner or 

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more advanced. 
That's the bitcoinway.com/bram 

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you share a lot about. 
You know how how Fiat money 

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makes people very nihilistic and
depressed, right? 

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I also see it, I don't see it a 
lot, but I also think that a lot

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of people just don't talk about 
money, right? 

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Or what their relationship with 
money is or how it's going and 

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stuff like that, right? 
What? 

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What have you. 
Seen and and yeah, maybe you can

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share like your your thoughts on
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happens. 
But also, yeah, like what have 

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you seen? 
And, you know, with the, with 

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the people, you know, you maybe 
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know, tell them about this, but 
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time seeing it. 
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I've seen my my posts on X 
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point out. 
You know, Fiat makes us 

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nihilistic and it's a big 
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You know, people are not getting
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having children. 
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future. 
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influencer, political pundit, I 
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voices, Alex Jones and there are
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millions of viewers and the 
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everybody is in huge credit card
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That's why they don't like 
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and once and I think that people
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need self responsibility and 
they're looking more into why 

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exploded. 
It's basically because the Fed 

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has been printing the money out 
of the there from 1971, right? 

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WCF happened 1971.com and 
everybody's the older 

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generation's assets are all 
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they're stuck with extremely 
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You know, some of them have a 
small savings here and there, 

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but they're going to notice you 
know, especially when they watch

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Bitcoin go hit 250,300 thousand 
it's it's inevitable because 

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they're going to print more 
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They're going to have to print 
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If you, if you really want to 
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is the our interest on the debt 
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trillion. 
At least it's projected to to 

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hit 1.2 trillion this year 
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trillion. 
Depends who you ask who's 

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looking at the stats, but and 
it's going to be more and more 

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because what was it by 2050 
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trillion, you know, which is a 
ridiculous amount of debt and it

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they just keep kicking the can 
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why Bitcoin is inevitable is 
because they keep kicking that 

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can down the road. 
Yes, they'll use, you know what 

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you will call it stable coins, 
because now it's with the 

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clarity Act stable coins are 
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legalized. 
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the clarity Act, I've haven't 
had read it thoroughly, but had 

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Chachi PT basically make the the
main points and summaries about 

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Bitcoin and it because not that 
we need it. 

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Of course it's it's free speech 
First Amendment, but it it 

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basically puts into law, it 
codifies into law that your 

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right to self custody is like 
it's, it's your absolute First 

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Amendment right. 
So that's going to be good. 

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I hope that passes. 
I'm watching that very closely 

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and people eventually are going 
to watch the Bitcoin price go up

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high. 
Like I said in demo cash at 

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PayPal, everybody has that. 
You're one of those. 

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They every American, especially 
in our Asian under, they're 

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always watching the ticker 
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Then no matter what, it's always
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And as more and more people 
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be a meeting, people say it's 
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Some people say it's going to be
institutional. 

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I think we're just kind of come 
right Midway, you know, and it 

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sounds crazy. 
It sounded crazy that the Wright

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brothers flew. 
Oh, a New York Times posted, 

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humans won't fly for a million 
years. 

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Five years later, the Wright 
brothers flew for the first 

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time. 10 years later, there was 
like planes and jets and, and, 

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you know, in, in wars, God 
forbid. 

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But unfortunately, that's what 
it is. 

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It's just going to take a long 
time. 

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But therefore, you know, I I 
also think that stories also 

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like yours because there's 
something else that I really 

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love and basically also how you 
live your life, right? 

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Like that is an example for 
other people, you know, even 

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though, you know, you told me 
like, yeah, you're working 60 

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hours a week, right? 
But I think that you also 

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experienced like a big shift in,
in being, you know, having it 

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more peaceful and feeling more 
fulfilled, right? 

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I think you you have a soccer 
team of kids. 

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Right. 
You know, and this all came to 

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you when you actually grasped 
Bitcoin. 

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So could you maybe explain like 
what kind of relief, like 

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psychological relief you felt, 
You know, simply by changing the

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way you, you save? 
Well, it's knowing that I have 

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my time back. 
Once I realized what the 

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banksters were doing, I was, you
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I was really angry and it just 
made me more nihilistic. 

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And of course, every time I, if 
I'm depressed, if I'm sad during

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the day, it happens. 
We're humans. 

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I remember, Oh yeah, there's 
Bitcoin when people truly 

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understand what Bitcoin is and 
I, it seems like I'm a broken 

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record, but it's true. 
When people see what Bitcoin is 

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the hope that that it provides, 
because now all of a sudden 

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you're working and yes, you're 
earning the the Fiat bucks, but 

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then you immediately DC into 
Bitcoin and you watch that those

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stats grow and you know that 
eventually bitcoin's going to 

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keep doing NGU thing as it has 
always done. 

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That's the thing that it does. 
You know, the hash rate goes up,

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the price goes up to have any 
happens. 

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It almost double S in price. 
It's going to keep happening 

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every four years, presidents 
come, presidents go and it it 

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gives me hope, especially for 
the general society that in 

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America now the Bitcoin and and 
unfortunately, crypto or crapto 

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in general is now being more 
spoken about in the open 

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political debate. 
So now it's letting the culture 

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know that people know that the 
average Joe who maybe has a 

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corporate job and is afraid to 
speak, speak up. 

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Like you said, you know, they're
more reserved because they don't

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want to say the wrong thing 
because they really want the 

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promotion, you know, and you 
don't know if the boss likes 

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Bitcoin or not. 
Well, now with all the 

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politicians talking about it, 
they, you know, even the bosses 

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are going to be talking about 
it. 

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So eventually Bitcoin, if you 
will, Bitcoin will be more and 

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more politically correct. 
You know, it was a cypherpunk 

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underground thing. 
It grew naturally with 

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Immaculate Conception, the Rock 
Solid Foundation, and now it is 

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just poised to be the world 
reserve currency. 

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I spent my day thinking about 
that. 

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And I think when people get that
feeling, you know, when you work

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hard and you're actually reaping
the fruit of your labor and that

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it's going to go up in value 
over time, that everyone is 

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going to get into Bitcoin and 
that there won't be an option. 

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Maybe the older generations 
won't be as much into Bitcoin, 

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but you see boomers all the time
in Bitcoin. 

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I love Lawrence Lapard. 
He's imagine how many people his

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orange bill, you know, Jeff 
Booth, he he had a massive value

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following it before Bitcoin with
a, you know, a bunch of people 

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in the, in the business world, 
financial world. 

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He brought a lot of people into 
Bitcoin and those people will 

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bear fruit. 
Just you know, those people will

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talk more about Bitcoin and and 
want to spend the Bitcoin. 

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That's why I always nowadays in 
my day-to-day life, be the 

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change you want to be in the 
world. 

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I always ask, hey, do you take 
Bitcoin? 

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Oh, OK, no biggie. 
Don't take that's fine. 

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You know, can I be in Bitcoin? 
You know, I accept Bitcoin. 

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I just I changed the protocols 
of the company today and I 

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clarified, I put in a for for 
our SSO PS standard operating 

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procedures. 
I put in the the our Bitcoin 

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lightning address. 
So you know, whenever someone, 

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now we have 2 girls in the 
office all the time besides my 

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mom and my wife, they will now 
have our address to charge the 

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40% deposit, you know, 
beforehand before we start the 

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job. 
And so I think it's going to be 

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more and more, I'm very hopeful.
You know, Bitcoin will give 

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humanity that hope and I mean 
humanity because the third 

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world's suffering more than we 
are. 

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People wonder why do people just
walk here, get on boats and go 

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to Europe? 
You know, I'm an Italian 

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citizen. 
I'm an European. 

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You are an European citizen too,
right? 

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Yeah. 
So I'm sure you sometimes hear 

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it on the news. 
Just people get on boats and 

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just go, of course it's it's 
wrong because people are putting

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their children in danger. 
But we have the money printers. 

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People are just doing what 
people do. 

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They they want a better future 
in a in a safer society. 

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We should be flattered. 
We form beautiful societies. 

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And in the end of the day, it's 
not really fair that America 

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prints the money the world has 
to use. 

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And then we use that to, you 
know, the banks just use that to

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buy politicians to do their 
bidding. 

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And eventually people, you see 
that cycle that Thomas Vassey 

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just lost at the Senate race. 
And now people are more 

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frustrated. 
So now I get the opportunity to 

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like, go on these, even though 
I'm not political at all. 

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And I don't get into politics, 
but I go in these politics X 

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accounts and I just hate Bitcoin
fixes this. 

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Bitcoin separates money and say 
I sow the seeds. 

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You know, I'm always sowing 
seeds everywhere in every aspect

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of life. 
But people are seeing it more 

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and more. 
You can't vote your way out of 

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this, could you? 
Potentially if you have a big 

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large enough number like let's 
say we have 50 million 

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eventually Bitcoin maximal is 
God willing. 

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Now all the sudden you can sway 
elections and you can see when 

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Trump endorsed Bitcoin in the 
Bitcoin conference, all 

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Bitcoiner bitcoiners eyes and 
crypto people eyes were on that 

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stage. 
And just you could see the the 

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poll numbers for Trump going up 
like as he spoke. 

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You could see it, you know. 
So now the politicians are 

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aware, you know, if I don't like
this Bitcoin thing, I really 

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won't have a big part of the 
young population voting for me. 

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Yeah. 
So funny, right, that Elizabeth 

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Warren and and like almost 
straight reaction was like I'm 

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building an anti crypto army, 
right. 

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It's just like she she doesn't 
she doesn't even know why. 

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She just hates everything. 
That's not everyone that's not 

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thinking like her, right. 
So you know, if this person is 

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pro, I'm anti this. 
Yeah, I also do feel, you know, 

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like once you really get deep 
into Bitcoin, you also create 

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this skill or acquire a skill 
that you know, helps you to kind

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of like zoom out more and kind 
of like see what you what 

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you've. 
Said this before, yeah, you've 

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said this before, and it's true,
I think. 

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That makes it also a bit more 
peaceful, like you're less hung 

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up on all the politics stuff and
whatever because you just 

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understand it's it's just a 
messed up game. 

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I went back. 
On our podcast and listened to 

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that and it took me a couple 
listens. 

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I, I listened to our podcast 
sometimes and you know, mine and

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Robbins and mine just to see 
what I can do better and maybe 

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ponder more about and talk 
about. 

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But you said that and I and it 
stuck with me, man. 

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Like when I'm working out or 
working, I'm like, what do you 

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mean by that? 
Is it an acquired skill or an 

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innate thing, right? 
Nature versus nurture thing and 

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I I'm beginning to think it is a
skill and I think every person 

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is able to do it somewhat more 
than others maybe if you will, 

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but it it absolutely I I love 
that that's true well, or. 

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Maybe it is actually an innate 
thing and you know, the whole 

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Fiat money paradigm actually 
makes you, you know, because 

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it's so unpredictable. 
I love that idea, right where, 

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you know, Bitcoin is a very 
clear, absolute unchangeable 

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truth that just constantly gets 
added to, right? 

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And Fiat money is just pure 
chaos, right? 

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Like it's, it's, it's a 
variable, but it's manipulated. 

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It's changing all the time, 
right? 

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So it's changing chaos in 
different ways in your life, but

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it also gives you this maybe 
this idea that you need to pay 

450
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,440
attention to everything, right? 
Or it actually makes you pay 

451
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560
attention to everything. 
So you don't pay attention to 

452
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,840
the actual, to the actual thing 
you should pay attention to, 

453
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,840
which is the the corruption of 
the of the money, right. 

454
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,440
So yeah, how do you recognize 
that? 

455
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,240
And maybe also like how, how did
your world view kind of change 

456
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,160
or your behaviour when you 
actually started aligning with 

457
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,160
Bitcoin and decided like, OK, 
you know, I'm going to, I'm 

458
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,160
going to save in this thing for 
myself and, and my, and my 

459
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,440
family, No. 
It's come, it comes back to 

460
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,880
deferred gratification, right? 
The Bitcoiners like to call it 

461
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,280
low time preference versus high 
time preference low. 

462
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,400
I've always called it deferred 
gratification. 

463
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,880
You know, there are studies 
about on children about this, 

464
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,840
that some children or most 
children will choose like it. 

465
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,760
They can either take a 
marshmallow now exactly. 

466
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,280
And but you tell them and that's
that shows the humanity. 

467
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,120
You tell them, listen, you can 
wait a couple hours. 

468
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,960
Don't have the marshmallow. 
I'll give you 4 more, right? 

469
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760
I forgot the exact numbers. 
And a lot of kids will wait. 

470
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,600
They'll do the deferred 
gratification thing. 

471
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,720
But why are we not doing it now?
It's because of Fiat. 

472
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,400
Fiat has the incent, like you 
said, chaotics. 

473
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,720
And I was going to say 
something, but I'm always 

474
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,840
careful with my language to not,
you know, screw up people's 

475
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:24,520
YouTube channel, the sheer pain 
and hurt that Fiat is causing. 

476
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,760
You know, I never like to blame 
that group of people or this 

477
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,840
group of people. 
It's a system. 

478
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,560
It's, it's an embedded 
environment that we've, we've 

479
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,320
create as humans created around 
this thing, around this money 

480
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,040
printer. 
And everything flows from there.

481
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,240
A centralized monster. 
Bitcoin is like it's like a 

482
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,520
godly decentralized Angel giving
power back to the people. 

483
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,080
So when people it's like a kid, 
I remember what my my Italian 

484
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,400
grandma used to, you know, yell 
at me in Italian and she used to

485
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,280
to iron her clothing and she 
left the iron her on. 

486
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,800
I think she turned off, but it's
still hot. 

487
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240
I was like, I must have been, I 
still remember this. 

488
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,360
I swear to God, I was. 
I must have been like four or 

489
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,600
five. 
I remembered it because they put

490
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,880
my hand on the I'm like, oh, so 
pretty, you know, she wasn't in 

491
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520
the room and I burned my hand. 
I'm like, ah, you know, 

492
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,280
immediately your brains like, 
stop. 

493
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,120
You know, when people get 
familiar with Bitcoin, This is 

494
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,800
why I love what you're doing, 
what Paul is doing, what Robin 

495
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,200
is doing. 
There's not enough Bitcoin 

496
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,520
podcasts and it's, it's really 
selfless. 

497
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,240
You're taking your time to, to 
educate people and it does. 

498
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,160
That's why I always write 
comment, fam, like subscribe, 

499
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,720
comment, give them a like, share
with people, clip it, put it up 

500
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,960
because the algorithms do get 
triggered. 

501
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,520
And then it, it's, you're 
basically doing Bitcoin 

502
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,000
evangelism through social media.
It does because everybody's like

503
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,840
on social media now and people 
will discover what Bitcoin is 

504
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,800
and they'll say, do I want to 
burn my hand on Fiat and suffer 

505
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,080
in pain for the rest of 
eternity? 

506
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Or do I want to see this thing 
here? 

507
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,600
That's a bright orange future. 
Humans are going to choose the 

508
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,760
most, you know, the least pain 
possible because it's a signal. 

509
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,400
It's a little evolutionary 
signaling for, for your, you 

510
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,960
know, your whole body, your 
nervous system is completely 

511
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,240
interconnected with your body 
directly to your brain. 

512
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,800
And people are, I'd like to say 
people are smart, man. 

513
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,600
We don't give credit. 
And I mean everybody like we 

514
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,480
Bitcoiners, we don't give people
enough credit. 

515
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960
You know, eventually they'll see
they just haven't gotten the 

516
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,480
chance. 
Like when I was in the pizzeria 

517
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,720
in 2013, I like to tell the 
story. 

518
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,120
I was, I came out, I was just 
sweating, making pizzas, you 

519
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,880
know, my boss yelling in Greek. 
And then I come out to the bar 

520
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,480
area and I see in TV Bitcoin. 
Is this something? 

521
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,400
Is it a scam? 
I still forgot the exact 

522
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,760
language, but I'm like Bitcoin. 
Interesting. 

523
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,680
A digital currency. 
That makes sense. 

524
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,760
I took my water and walked away.
The worst mistake of my life, 

525
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:53,880
right? 
I mean, I should say I guess it,

526
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,800
I guess so. 
But the the worst financial 

527
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,560
mistake of my life. 
But then you see that seed got 

528
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,320
planted. 
And then when I downloaded Robin

529
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Hood with my friends in 2021, 
shout out to Diogo. 

530
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,440
My childhood friend Ivan came 
over, his brother came over. 

531
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,480
Well, had a BBQ, was a nice 
family, our friend gathering 

532
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,880
from childhood and we promised 
to each other we're going to 

533
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,040
just buy $100.00 of stocks every
every week. 

534
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,960
And then I saw this thing go 
boom. 

535
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,200
It just Bitcoin doing what it 
does from like I forgot 10,000 

536
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560
to like 64,000. 
I watched it. 

537
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,880
I watched it do that, you know 
from the beginning of 2021 to 

538
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240
through like April and May. 
That was the all time high I 

539
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,200
believe and it was like 64,000 
like oh, what is this? 

540
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,440
Oh, I remember this. 
I heard that in the beat area I 

541
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,960
bought 100 bucks and then I 
watched the dip and then I think

542
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,080
with the number go up technology
and it is a sort of a side 

543
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,760
effect or, or a small part of, 
you know, the Bitcoin iceberg is

544
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,760
just the thing sticking out of 
the water is the price because 

545
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,200
it's what people talk about the 
most. 

546
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,360
And I, I would say 
unfortunately, but not really 

547
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:59,240
because it is a like a, a health
indicator, but under that is 

548
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,640
like freedom, happiness, you 
know, hope it your, your money 

549
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520
and time is back to your family 
instead of the banks are 

550
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,440
sprinting it and inflating it 
away. 

551
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,920
So I think people will get the 
hand off the hot stove or the 

552
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,040
hot ironing thing and go, all 
right, let's go to Bitcoin. 

553
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,080
What is this? 
Let's study it. 

554
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,240
For my European friends that 
want to buy Bitcoin with ease, 

555
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,080
check out Relay. 
I've been a long time fan and 

556
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,200
happy to partner up with what I 
think is the best Bitcoin only 

557
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,520
platform for Europeans. 
They offer a super simple 

558
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,720
beginner friendly app with no 
distractions and no shit coins. 

559
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,320
You can do a quick one time 
smash buy or set up automatic 

560
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,640
purchases when you're stacking 
regularly. 

561
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,480
And here's the. 
Thing that matters most Relay is

562
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,520
100% self custody. 
Every set you hold is yours, 

563
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,600
your keys, your coins. 
If you want to get started, 

564
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,320
download the app file in my link
below or in the description and 

565
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,680
use code BRUM that's BR AM at 
checkout to get 10% of your 

566
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,720
fees. 
Every. 

567
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,200
Bitcoiner hits this moment, you 
need cash, maybe a house 

568
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,520
deposit, an emergency or a tax 
bill and you're staring at your 

569
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200
stack thinking, do I really want
to sell this? 

570
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,360
Here's the thing, you don't have
to. 

571
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,800
You can borrow against your 
Bitcoin instead, so there's also

572
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,320
no taxable event and your stack 
can keep on stacking. 

573
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,720
This is where Firefish comes in,
a peer-to-peer marketplace for 

574
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,200
Bitcoin backed loans. 
And Firefish isn't a lender. 

575
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,160
They built the protocol that 
makes this all possible, which 

576
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,240
is exactly why they never ever 
have to touch your Bitcoin 

577
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,040
during your loan. 
Your Bitcoin sits in an on chain

578
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240
multi 6 secured by open source 
code. 

579
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,040
You can easily create a loan 
request with your desired 

580
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680
amount, duration and interest 
rate and share it on their 

581
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,640
marketplace at firefish dot IO. 
When you get matched and decide 

582
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,240
to accept a loan offer, you can 
use code Brom to get 30% of your

583
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,760
first loans fees. 
That's firefish dot IO and code 

584
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,480
takes time. 
And I think you're spot on in 

585
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,720
terms of like the podcasts and 
there's not enough podcasts, 

586
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,000
right? 
We just have to make like so 

587
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,040
many possible touch points told 
by so many different people in 

588
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,120
so many different ways, right? 
That it will also actually reach

589
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680
so many different people in so 
many different ways, right? 

590
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,960
Like how I talk about it is not 
how you talk about it, right? 

591
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,800
And you will touch other people 
than than than I do. 

592
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,400
And that's an that's an amazing 
thing. 

593
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,640
And the fun part is actually 
that everyone is in that sense 

594
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,840
working for Bitcoin right in, 
in, in any capacity. 

595
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:32,080
And so that that that by itself,
I think is extremely 

596
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,000
interesting, right? 
I wonder, you know, the only 

597
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,440
other topic I, I once had this 
conversation, actually, the only

598
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,920
other topic where this is the 
same thing is with like 

599
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,360
religion, right? 
It's kind of like a 

600
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,760
decentralized thing. 
Like, you know, there, there 

601
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,560
there's a pastor in Sydney 
talking about something, you 

602
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,600
know, and there's one in Nairobi
or whatever, right? 

603
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,200
And they don't really know each 
other, but they're bounded by 

604
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,920
this thing that they feel like 
they should contribute to any 

605
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:04,840
and, and, and evangelize, right?
I, I think that's the only thing

606
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,760
like I, I don't think there's a 
topic in the, I don't know for, 

607
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,800
for people that love horses or 
or even cars. 

608
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,880
Or whatever, right? 
Like where there's such? 

609
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Such a. 
Decentralized way of how people 

610
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,280
organize and talk about it and 
try to educate and and stuff 

611
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,560
like that. 
So yeah, I find it, I find it 

612
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,600
very, very fascinating. 
And I also love that there's 

613
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,840
also actually a lot of gens ears
that are into Bitcoin and and, 

614
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,720
and really see that, right, like
I have, I have, I have huge. 

615
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,320
I'm very happy for like 50% of 
them. 

616
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,200
I think it's like 5050 in the 
Gen. 

617
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,880
C, right? 
It's like 50% is like, you know,

618
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,080
F all of this old stuff. 
I'm going to figure out how the 

619
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,640
world works. 
You know, I'm going to make a 

620
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,640
direction. 
I'm going to, you know, think 

621
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,320
for myself and do my own stuff. 
And, and the other half is just 

622
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,320
very nihilistic, right? 
They kind of gave up. 

623
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Like, you know, it's all messed 
up. 

624
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,680
And Oh yeah, that's something 
that I also wanted to say. 

625
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,280
You, you, you said nihilistic, 
you know, you mentioned Alex 

626
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,840
Jones. 
I, I think that there's so many 

627
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:14,160
people that are very smart that,
you know, go really deep in all 

628
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,640
of these rabbit holes, try to 
figure out how the world works. 

629
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,160
But then they still dismiss 
Bitcoin, right? 

630
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:25,600
They they are so black built 
that they cannot see any any 

631
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:31,160
option of any hope or any light 
right that could give them some 

632
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,160
direction towards the future. 
That that I also find a pity. 

633
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Actually, there's many of of 
those types of people I. 

634
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,080
Think that it's a lack of having
it in front of them. 

635
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,040
You know, if it's if we put it 
in front of them, it's like a a 

636
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360
beautiful hot meal with a 
beautiful cup of water. 

637
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,280
When you're in a lost in the 
desert, all the sudden this guy 

638
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,160
comes to save you. 
He puts a table in front. 

639
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,560
Your team made it. 
You know. 

640
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Oh my God, that is no, But you 
know what it was like? 

641
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800
That's where. 
They end up then right, because 

642
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,360
it must be. 
A bad. 

643
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,880
Thing too, because everything is
so fucked up and that that that 

644
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,360
that it keeps them from actually
being curious enough and that. 

645
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,520
Reminds me, right? 
Yeah, that. 

646
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,800
That that reminds me. 
My. 

647
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,760
People perish for a lack of 
knowledge. 

648
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,320
You know, God says that my 
people perish for a lack of 

649
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,440
knowledge. 
So people don't understand, you 

650
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,040
know, they come to presumptuous 
false conclusions from, you 

651
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,880
know, regurgitated, vomited 
things that a dude said once, Oh

652
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,360
yeah, Bitcoin Epstein made it. 
And they connect the dots and 

653
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,320
forget about it. 
You know, that's why I think 

654
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,240
they need to see some world 
changing event such as the Fiat 

655
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,840
system. 
You know, it's not going to 

656
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,640
collapse overnight like Lynn 
Alden says. 

657
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,320
It's, it's like a, a transition,
but it, it's going to be visible

658
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,080
and palpable to people to, to 
notice the changes, you know, 

659
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,320
and as the younger generation 
comes in, you see the, the 

660
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,480
transaction volume goes up and 
it is going up. 

661
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,920
If you look back, you know, I 
just saw one of my memes today. 

662
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,760
I was messy my old computer and 
it's a mean from 2023, Bitcoin 

663
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,280
was 9 trillion transactions, $9 
trillion in transactions for the

664
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,120
year of 2022 or 2023. 
And that that has gone up. 

665
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,640
And you can see the numbers go 
up and the health indicators 

666
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,840
going up. 
And once I believe, once they 

667
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,400
see it, they'll say, oh, you 
know what? 

668
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,080
They'll they'll connect 
different dots, they'll see it 

669
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,480
in a different light. 
That's why it's so important for

670
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,760
us to never stop talking about 
it because eventually, yeah, I 

671
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280
might just have 20,000 
followers. 

672
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,360
But you know, you, a guy's going
to hear you say, a guy with 

673
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,280
100,000 followers going to hear 
you say something enlightening 

674
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,360
like you do because you met, you
mix and synthesize philosophy 

675
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,320
with Bitcoin and psychology and 
lifestyle and wisdom you've 

676
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,400
acquired naturally. 
And people see that's genuine 

677
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,560
and people connect different 
dots. 

678
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,520
They're like, oh, wait a minute.
So it's decentralized. 

679
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,080
Oh, Jeffrey Epstein just funded 
a couple of core devs in 2011. 

680
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Well, that has nothing to do 
with the, with the, you know, 

681
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,680
with the control of Bitcoin, 
because that's impossible to do 

682
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,639
you. 
It's a decentralized worldwide 

683
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,600
protocol. 
That's why I always put my 

684
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,159
Instagram channel too. 
I put a meme with explaining 

685
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,360
what Bitcoin is briefly short 
because people have a short 

686
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,719
attention span. 
So it's like a sentence or two 

687
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,120
Bitcoin, you know, peer-to-peer 
worldwide distributed Ledger, 

688
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,440
you know, and people eventually 
you do plant the seeds. 

689
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,280
It seems like it's like because 
the price is down, so the 

690
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,159
sentiment you can feel an X, 
it's kind of down. 

691
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,719
That's why I don't even look at 
price anymore. 

692
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,960
I just know the price down 
because somebody posted it on X.

693
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,400
But eventually when Bitcoin does
it's number go up thing which it

694
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,880
will happen and and we might 
have some catastrophic Black 

695
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,840
Swan event before them. 
But Bitcoin remains the same, 

696
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,760
right? 
It doesn't change with the the 

697
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,120
price downtrend. 
It's because there's war here 

698
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,920
and there's rumors of war there 
and there is an oil issue in 

699
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,000
the, in the whatever Butch 
McCall that the Iran thing that 

700
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400
people can't go by, you know, 
the Strait of Hormuz or 

701
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040
whatever. 
But then that passes away. 

702
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160
You know, that passes, that goes
by like a storm and then Bitcoin

703
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,240
does its thing again and then 
the halving happens. 

704
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,680
It's two years away. 
I'm counting the blocks in my 

705
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,280
other computer. 
And then the price, of course, 

706
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,920
almost double S. 
You know, this happened a little

707
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,880
bit before the halving this time
around in 2024, it was like 

708
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,080
April, I believe that the price 
or sorry, the halving was from 

709
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,240
2024 April. 
But before that, in 2023, at the

710
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:30,240
end of 23, it just boom 
skyrocketed, you know, and then 

711
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,520
the having didn't do much and we
hit $126,000. 

712
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,720
But that's really nothing. 
And people are going to trade 

713
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:37,520
it. 
It's going to be volatile, you 

714
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,960
know, and more and more people 
are seeing what Michael Saylor 

715
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,400
is doing. 
Not only Saylor, but other 

716
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,120
institutions. 
Oh, Bank of America is talking 

717
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,320
about it. 
Fidelity has an ETF on it. 

718
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,680
You know, more and more 
institutions and people see that

719
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,720
these institutions are green 
lighting everything. 

720
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,440
It becomes like a so we're 
social creature, right? 

721
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:58,000
It becomes politically correct. 
Or, you know, if, if a lot of 

722
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,360
people like you, people will 
say, Oh, I like this guy too 

723
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,120
because of this social 
influence. 

724
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,440
People are going to do that 
about Bitcoin. 

725
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,400
Oh, wow, this so so this guy 
likes Bitcoin. 

726
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,800
Oh, I like this guy. 
So I'm going to study this and 

727
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,840
it's just going to be a, a ever 
spreading thing, you know, like 

728
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,200
the the washing machines and the
dryers. 

729
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,200
It took the same amount of time 
to go from zero to 10%, right? 

730
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,160
Let's say it took 2025 thirty 
years took 30 years to go from 

731
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,080
zero to 10%. 
It's going to take another 30 

732
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,800
years to go from 10 to 90% of 
world adoption. 

733
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,280
So that the first half takes the
same amount of time to the 

734
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,600
second, except that the 
second-half is completely 

735
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,280
exponential. 
And we're going to see it. 

736
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120
We're going to be like, whoa, 
it's going to be euphoric. 

737
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,800
But we need to remember, we need
to education, you know, for the 

738
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,480
general Bitcoin community, we 
need to stay humbles to excess 

739
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,320
still, but also educate the 
people on what it is. 

740
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,640
This is the moment we come in. 
Everybody's curious. 

741
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,120
We we feed them, you know, good,
good food, you know, in a way to

742
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,000
to describe to them that it's 
only Bitcoin crap toes are 

743
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,480
really dangerous. 
You're going to get burned. 

744
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,880
I got burned in 2022. 
And so people are going to more 

745
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,880
and more come to Bitcoin and 
realize that that's, you know, 

746
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,400
that positive thing that's going
to make their life better and 

747
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,720
it's going to improve their 
psychology, you know? 

748
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,880
So when we when we think about 
the future, right, like one 

749
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,080
thing you're doing as well, 
you're paying your oldest kid in

750
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,760
Bitcoin for doing chores, 
chores. 

751
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,600
I absolutely love that. 
So if we Fast forward to the 

752
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:29,360
future, how do you think, you 
know, kids growing up now that 

753
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,200
grow up in a world where Bitcoin
just exists, right? 

754
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:38,520
You know, maybe in in your kids 
case, you know, they already 

755
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,240
earned it for doing these 
chores. 

756
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,480
What do you think the world 
looks like for them? 

757
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,600
You know, like how do you think 
they will think about work or 

758
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,920
value or or even central 
authority, right? 

759
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,800
Like do do you think we could 
actually already have an impact 

760
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,280
on how our kids experience the 
world? 

761
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,920
Or do you think it'll take 
longer? 

762
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,760
Interesting. 
Question. 

763
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,280
Yeah, Yeah, that paradigm is 
definitely going to change. 

764
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,280
You know, the, the threshold, 
the the, what you will call it 

765
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,240
the, the window. 
What is it that you know that 

766
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,080
it's good at? 
The paradigm will change. 

767
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,560
And like Sailor says, funeral, 
I'm sorry. 

768
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Innovation moves one funeral at 
the time. 

769
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,040
And the young people, as always,
in touch with technology. 

770
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,160
My daughter did something, the 
tablet I couldn't even dream of.

771
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,840
Like she's just, she's in tune 
with their computer and she 

772
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,960
knows what to do. 
And, you know, we we do, we do 

773
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,000
fun games together. 
And I think it's going to be 

774
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,000
natural, you know, the way 
though experienced the word. 

775
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440
That's a great question, man. 
I've never, I'm going to ponder 

776
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,400
over that, you know, in the next
few weeks. 

777
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,600
And I'm going to think about how
the world will be for them, 

778
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,320
what, what their experience will
be. 

779
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040
I think Fiat is still going to 
be a thing because I think 

780
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,480
government tokens are maybe 
always going to be around and 

781
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,400
maybe our lifetime. 
But then again, I don't know. 

782
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Remember, like the Wright 
brothers flew after New York 

783
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Times said that humans won't fly
for a million years. 

784
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,880
So you never know, but one thing
that I, I, I am so positive, I 

785
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,800
shouldn't say I know this for a 
fact, but I am so positive that 

786
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,360
we are going to see a Fiat 
collapse. 

787
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,400
And it's going to be like a 
worldwide thing, especially 

788
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,720
North America and Europe. 
And then it's going to spread 

789
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:17,280
and people are going to realize 
that Fiat system is a bankster 

790
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,320
racket because it's what it is. 
I'm not making things up, you 

791
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960
know, if, if the banksters won't
assume me, let's go, let's go to

792
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,000
discovery, you know, because 
then people are going to, it's 

793
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,360
going to bring more attention to
that, you know, and people, and 

794
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,840
they don't want to do that 
because they don't want to 

795
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,360
expose their racket because they
like it. 

796
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,680
You know, they get to, they 
print the money, bribe the 

797
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,560
politicians. 
And it's a private, the Federal 

798
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,880
Reserve is a private 
institution. 

799
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,120
They don't have any reserves. 
They're not federal entity. 

800
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,080
The founding fathers fought 
vehemently against the central 

801
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,680
bank. 
And then the, the second attempt

802
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,840
at the central bank was under 
Andrew Jackson. 

803
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,040
And he, that's when he called 
you are a den of Vipers and 

804
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,120
thieves, specifically for the 
guy and his friends trying to 

805
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,520
institute a central bank in 
America. 

806
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,840
He called them a den of Vipers 
and thieves. 

807
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,960
And then he put them in jail, 
right? 

808
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,400
And people forget that because 
for some reason you don't learn 

809
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,760
that in school. 
And then of course, the third 

810
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,240
attempt for some reason, right? 
We know that these people have 

811
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,800
so much power and they, they 
knew what they were doing. 

812
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,520
It's not an accident like people
say, oh, you know, it's just the

813
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Fiat system naturally arose. 
Yeah, but it was backed by gold.

814
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,640
I could go with a gold paper 
into the bank and give them, you

815
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,320
know, oh, can I have this is the
my gold certificate? 

816
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,200
Can I have miles of gold? 
OK, thank you. 

817
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,240
All right. 
I'm going to go to Italy. 

818
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,800
Italy now with my gold. 
You can't do that. 

819
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,280
And even a fractional reserve 
like $1.00 has 10 owners. 

820
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,080
It used to be, you know, the the
opposite. 

821
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:44,120
At least it was somewhat, you 
know, regular or more logical. 

822
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,720
And now how can $1.00 have 10 
owners? 

823
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:49,680
That's why when there's bank 
runs, the banks run out of cash.

824
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,760
And then they, of course they, 
they look to the FDIC, you know,

825
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,240
FDIC insures depositors for a 
hundred $250,000. 

826
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
You know what happens to people 
who have more than that? 

827
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,360
Of course they keep their money 
in assets, but general working 

828
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,680
class suffer and they, they're 
scared and they don't know 

829
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,840
what's going on because they 
don't study it. 

830
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,040
That's where we come in, you 
know, just explain to them what 

831
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,800
it is and Bitcoin, there is no, 
there is no day off, there's no 

832
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,320
holiday. 
It's 24/7. 

833
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,200
Doesn't matter if it's a Sunday 
at 2:00 AM. 

834
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,960
You can perform your transaction
and you can see those things. 

835
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Like some people knew that 
Amazon was going to be something

836
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,120
when it was trading at $1.90. 
And people are like, what is 

837
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,200
this? 
They're selling books. 

838
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,600
What a crappy. 
But then some people are like, 

839
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,240
wait a minute, that could have 
potential to be to change 

840
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,560
commerce and how everything is 
digitized. 

841
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,200
They they saw the future 
basically not they saw the 

842
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,040
future, but they saw the 
patterns that were going to lead

843
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,120
us because everything was 
becoming digitized. 

844
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,080
They saw it. 
Blockbuster dying. 

845
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,600
Yeah, yeah. 
Fully agree. 

846
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,360
Yeah. 
What I what I really like is 

847
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,480
that a lot of this stuff already
happened before. 

848
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,160
I love what you said about, you 
know, some people think, you 

849
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,800
know, this form of money is 
where we ended up in a very 

850
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,560
organic way, right? 
This is the best form of money 

851
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,240
that that we can probably have. 
The crazy thing is that this is 

852
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,560
like the youngest form of money 
that that that has existed, 

853
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,560
right? 
Isn't that insane? 

854
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,200
That's one. 
That's crazy. 

855
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,400
You know, if you're millennials 
younger than your parents, 

856
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:28,120
right, which, which is a is a, 
is a wild fought, but you know, 

857
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,680
the field enchantment is just so
big, right? 

858
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,120
And you know, especially in the 
Western country, I think, you 

859
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,760
know, you just have high trust 
toward the government because, 

860
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,960
you know, 80s and 90s were 
great. 

861
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,160
You know, growing up in the 80s 
and 90s as a, as a millennial, 

862
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,160
for example, was, was great. 
So you know, and everything 

863
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,800
worked and you went to the store
and you use the money and you 

864
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,280
know, you got a bread or 
whatever you bought like it just

865
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,040
it just worked, right. 
So why would you even start 

866
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,000
doubting that, right? 
Like that said, that's quite a 

867
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,480
dumer thing to do, right? 
That that's what a lot of people

868
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,920
it was peak. 
Fiat, right? 

869
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,960
It was the, it was the pinnacle 
of the Fiat world where they 

870
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,040
were actually it, it was when 
they started borrowing money, 

871
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,840
you know, and that reminds me, 
Clinton balanced the books. 

872
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,400
We had $0.00 of debt. 
It's when the that's crazy, by 

873
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,480
the way. 
It's when the it's. 

874
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,960
When the not a lot of people 
know that it's it's when the 

875
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,680
scam began in 1970s and then 
they were reaping the the 

876
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,280
benefits. 
But it it's a very shallow thing

877
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,920
because it's a scam. 
In the end, scams fall because 

878
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,400
truth comes out and Bitcoin is 
the immutable truth. 

879
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,600
It really does connect. 
It seems like it seems like it's

880
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,600
something woo, but it's not. 
It's it's a literal truth that's

881
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,680
embedded in the Ledger. 
It's not changeable by anyone 

882
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,440
and it's a governed and in a 
decentralized way by by a 

883
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,240
protocol like a rules without 
rulers. 

884
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,480
You know, people don't know that
I'm going to clip this rules 

885
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,640
without rulers and it, it gives 
the power back to the people. 

886
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,280
It gives the money back to the 
people. 

887
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,440
It's, it's impossible to stop. 
You know, it's something that's 

888
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,320
going to be, it's going to, I 
have full conviction that it's 

889
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,880
going to happen in the next 10 
to 30 years. 

890
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,200
Yeah, I I agree. 
The what I wanted to say, I 

891
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,960
love, I love that I thought 
about this before, like in in 

892
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,440
the early days of the Fiat money
system, right. 

893
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,560
I think that's where the most 
benefit was, right? 

894
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,760
Like the most gains were made in
the beginning, right? 

895
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Let's say 71 to 81, let's say 
the first decade, right? 

896
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,680
So if you were either the 
government, right, or close to 

897
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,200
the government or in the finance
or whatever like that, that was 

898
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,680
the kind of like time where you 
could really, really profit from

899
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,240
it, right? 
Because you're creating 

900
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:52,280
productivity and capital from 
nothing, but I think for most. 

901
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,640
People. 
The the, the, the, the, the 

902
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,360
majority of the population. 
It's what you said, right? 

903
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:07,240
Like 989990, you know, 95 to 99 
is like peak or maybe late 80s 

904
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:12,240
also, right? 
Like that was like peak Fiat. 

905
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,640
Experience. 
For the majority of people. 

906
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,080
And you can see what happened in
2008. 

907
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,120
Absolutely food. 
Wise travel, yeah, like all that

908
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,040
all that stuff right like and 
then you you. 

909
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,720
Get to the 2000s and people, you
know, the, the, the economists 

910
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,760
are, you know, the libertarians 
are saying, hey, this isn't 

911
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,520
sustainable. 
We're gathering a lot of debt. 

912
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,680
2008 We know what happened. 
The great financial crisis. 

913
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,800
Is a is a symptom, I would say 
of of, of Fiat money, right, But

914
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,440
Fiat money kind of like fuels 
this, right, because the whole 

915
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,000
fee C game is peak Fiat money 
game, right. 

916
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,640
It's like it's like when you're 
AVC, you're probably like layer 

917
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,120
5 in some sort of money scheme, 
like where the actual money 

918
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,920
originated from, right. 
Someone with, you know, multi 

919
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,360
100 billion says, you know, hey,
you know, I think this guy can 

920
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,000
allocate, you know, this portion
of money and then that guy 

921
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,560
thinks, well, you know, I'm 
putting it with these guys to 

922
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,800
allocate it and etcetera, right.
So it's kind of how how the VC 

923
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,360
game is. 
But ithinkthe.com bubble is a 

924
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,720
symptom of that 2008, you know, 
even even more. 

925
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,080
And I think it's, it's very easy
to argue that it never finished 

926
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,600
or it was never fixed, right 
like that. 

927
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:24,160
And. 
That's the fire I'm talking 

928
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,040
about. 
That fire is like a wild forest 

929
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,760
fire and it just burns 
everything in its back and 

930
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,680
people suffer and it hurts and a
lot of people lose houses and 

931
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,080
business and jobs. 
But out of those ashes rises a 

932
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,880
phoenix that gives everybody 
hope. 

933
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,760
It's some some myths are like 
timeless, you know, like 

934
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Prometheus giving us fire and 
the phoenix rising from the 

935
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,160
ashes out. 
This is why Bitcoin gives me 

936
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,440
hope, gives the world hope 
because it's a brighter future, 

937
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,720
because it Bitcoin doesn't give 
you problem, problem, problem 

938
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,640
like we were talking about the 
problem right now to give the 

939
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,480
people the solution. 
And Bitcoin is that solution. 

940
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,200
It's the solution to not all the
problems of life. 

941
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,880
Of course, if you're a criminal,
if you're robbing, if you're you

942
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,040
know you got you got more soul 
searching to do, but if you're 

943
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,000
average Joe, most people are 
good people. 

944
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,560
All of a sudden you have this 
option that will improve most 

945
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,560
things in your life. 
Now you're working, you're 

946
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,760
applying yourself, and you're 
getting the creeps of your 

947
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,040
labor. 
You're reaping the fruit of your

948
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,040
labor. 
There's. 

949
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Centralized. 
Control over the money and 

950
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,520
therefore centralized control 
over your life. 

951
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,240
You're basically enslaved in a 
financial way. 

952
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,800
OK, messed up realization, 
right? 

953
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,240
Like that is it that is a multi 
messed up realization, you know,

954
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,120
with multiple levels. 
And a lot of people just don't 

955
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,680
want to believe that although, 
and this is I think the 

956
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,120
surprising part, right? 
Like, so for people that know me

957
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,920
in real life and for people that
know you in real life, right? 

958
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,080
It is just so simple to just 
dismiss it and be like, you 

959
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,280
know, he's talking crazy stuff 
or conspiracy stuff or what a 

960
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,600
doomer or whatever, right? 
And so I just wonder like how 

961
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,440
you, how you experienced that? 
Because I'm just thinking. 

962
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,840
I'm just thinking, you know, 
well, I'm just thinking. 

963
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,520
I'm just thinking, right? 
I'm just trying to figure. 

964
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,360
And it's for for. 
Myself and exactly I. 

965
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,480
Ended up absolutely. 
And it's funny because every 10 

966
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,840
people I mentioned Bitcoin or 
talk about Bitcoin too. 

967
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,160
And it usually, you know, 
there's a, there's a lead upon 

968
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,080
that. 
You know, there's not what you 

969
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,880
know, there's not. 
You don't go straight to people 

970
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,040
and talk about Bitcoin. 
Usually you know, you're talking

971
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,920
about life and then you might 
finances might pop up in the 

972
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,480
conversation and then you talk 
about investments. 

973
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,280
I always found the path, you 
know, I'm good with that. 

974
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,800
I find a path to talk to, to 
people with and every 10 people 

975
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,440
they talk to, I find that one of
them gets orange peeled. 

976
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,400
You were of course planting 8 
seeds. 

977
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,200
You know, maybe two of those 
seeds you're going to die. 

978
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,240
And then one of the guys that 
you talk to or gals, they're 

979
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:54,080
going to do the research. 
And I'm very happy to say that 

980
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,600
one of my Co workers is in my 
department in Costco. 

981
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,520
He is, he is into it. 
He's orange build and he's 

982
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,600
buying Bitcoin. 
He is very neat kid. 

983
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,000
He's 22 and he's just got his 
ducks in a row. 

984
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,240
Like I'm so like, I'm kind of 
proud of this kid. 

985
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,680
I don't, you know, I've known 
him for like a year or so and 

986
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,080
he's just such a great example 
to be followed because he's open

987
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,120
minded. 
He doesn't come to presumptuous 

988
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,240
conclusions. 
And then we heard about Bitcoin.

989
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,440
I gave him the book, the, the 
big print. 

990
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,040
And then now all of a sudden he 
knows what the Federal Reserve 

991
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,440
is. 
He knows that they print money 

992
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,520
out of thin air. 
And he's telling people this now

993
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,720
like he won't stop talking 
about, you know, like how 

994
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:35,160
Bitcoin is fixing society and 
his splint is to slowly allocate

995
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,800
up Bitcoin. 
But he's, his portfolio is like 

996
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,480
5% now, you know, this kid might
seem like maybe a small example,

997
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,880
but he is going to, he's a very 
good kid. 

998
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,280
I know he's going to meet many 
more people in his life and he's

999
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,160
going to share that message. 
You know, he's going to say when

1000
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,240
that conversation comes up in 
other groups of people, hey, you

1001
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:54,640
know what? 
Bitcoin fixes this. 

1002
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,080
And that's, that's the grassroot
part of it. 

1003
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,880
Society needs a better money. 
Everybody is affected by this. 

1004
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,640
Like you said, every single 
aspect of life is affected by 

1005
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,360
this. 
And people just they, they will 

1006
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,640
come to this conclusion 
naturally. 

1007
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,000
I give people more credit. 
They will come to this 

1008
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,480
conclusion through, you know, 
the culture, the politics, you 

1009
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,040
know, the media, everything, 
especially the podcasts. 

1010
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,560
You know, podcasts are it's the 
biggest thing now. 

1011
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Everybody listens to a podcast. 
You know, if you ask, at least 

1012
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,120
in North America, you guys, oh, 
we're into podcasts. 

1013
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,200
Oh, yeah, of course. 
What, what podcast to listen to?

1014
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,760
He'll tell you, Joe Rogan, you 
know, Alex Jones, you know, all 

1015
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,600
this stuff. 
And Alex, everything 

1016
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,120
interconnects with Bitcoin. 
If you remember, Alex Jones was 

1017
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,400
gifted, what, 50,000 Bitcoin or 
something? 

1018
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Or 10,000 Bitcoin by Yeah Max 
Kaiser. 

1019
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,320
Yeah, isn't that. 
Insane and he's just lost it 

1020
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,920
right and he his financial life 
would be fixed right now he had 

1021
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,520
some issues but that's just one 
small example of of a multitude 

1022
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,680
of influencers you know and the 
world's grow more connected and 

1023
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,760
they're they're going to come to
the truth they will when. 

1024
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,800
Eventually the Fiat system fails
right? 

1025
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,880
And it's fractures, it's going 
to be super painful for people 

1026
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,080
that are holding the bag in 
whatever way, right? 

1027
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,720
It's not only going to be 
holding cash and stuff. 

1028
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:15,560
So how do you think we should or
could balance the kind of like I

1029
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,600
told you so that we maybe want 
to say it right with with the 

1030
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,440
empathy? 
That is also. 

1031
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,320
Required to actually still get 
these people on board with, you 

1032
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,440
know, even just the ideas of 
hard money, separation of money 

1033
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,640
and state stuff, stuff like 
that, right? 

1034
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Because honestly, I think the 
the vindication that I'm going 

1035
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,560
to feel is going to be 
tremendous, right? 

1036
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,840
But. 
Only because that will be the 

1037
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,720
actual proof that it was a good 
thing to trust myself. 

1038
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,560
Absolutely. 
Like reality, what it's, it's, 

1039
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,640
it sets in, you know, it sets 
in. 

1040
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,760
So I love what, you know, I just
had a little bit of an epiphany 

1041
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,800
that, you know, Bitcoiners keep 
saying this. 

1042
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,160
I sometimes you understand why. 
Stay humble sex sets. 

1043
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,800
Stay humble sex sets. 
We're training ourselves for 

1044
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,480
when this Fiat collapse happens 
and everybody's hurting to stay 

1045
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
humble and be like, hey, have 
you tried this? 

1046
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,600
You know, this. 
And it's going to click like 

1047
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,320
that for them because remember, 
they, they heard about Bitcoin 

1048
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,680
here and there from friends, 
coworkers, TV media, podcaster, 

1049
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,840
social influencers, and the dots
are just going to connect in the

1050
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,000
end. 
It's, it's like when the iPhone 

1051
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,920
came out or the smartphones came
out, I did not want one for some

1052
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,880
reason. 
I was just like that. 

1053
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,640
I don't need that. 
I had a flip phone, you know, 

1054
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,880
and it was 2015 and then all of 
a sudden I had to get rid of my 

1055
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,720
flip phone because it broke. 
And I'm like, you know, I'm just

1056
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,800
going to get a smartphone. 
I'm like, man, why didn't I get 

1057
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,960
this before? 
It's so good, you know, And it 

1058
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,720
is because you can organize your
life. 

1059
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:50,440
There's so many applications 
that you can apply to your life.

1060
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,040
People don't realize how useful 
it is. 

1061
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,720
You know, some people say, oh, 
it's very bad. 

1062
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Not necessarily depends what 
tools you're using. 

1063
00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,800
You know, the Internet was 
around then. 

1064
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,320
Some people were doing bad 
things with it. 

1065
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,480
Some people, most people were 
doing good things with it. 

1066
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,120
And now that everything is 
online, you know, work, 

1067
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,880
commerce, relationships, gaming,
everybody's online. 

1068
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,920
I, I just, it, it blows my mind 
that people don't realize that 

1069
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,480
literally everybody's online. 
Everybody's online, whether 

1070
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,760
they're gaming, buying things in
Amazon, you know, commerce 

1071
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,120
relationship, people are meeting
their spouses online. 

1072
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,760
Eventually that Bitcoin dot 
comes in. 

1073
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,160
That's why I say Bitcoin is 
swallowing the globe hole. 

1074
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680
It's just going to be something 
that sets in like a like a a 

1075
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,880
square peg in a square slot. 
It just it's going to be like a 

1076
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,000
glove. 
And then we stay humble stack 

1077
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,400
sats and tell people, hey, you 
know, this is I've been doing 

1078
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,600
this for a while. 
If you have any questions, you 

1079
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,960
know, come to me and I can, I 
always point people up to our 

1080
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,240
podcast, to Robin podcast and 
you know, they might not 

1081
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,240
necessarily relate to my life 
experience. 

1082
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:57,760
But then you have of, you know, 
a different podcast, Gaston and 

1083
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,400
some person likes that guy 
because they do pretty much the 

1084
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480
same lifestyle. 
And it might be, you know, 

1085
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,960
attractive to some Christian 
bitcoiners with a large family 

1086
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,040
and or immigrants or whatever. 
You know, it's it's amazing how 

1087
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,200
everything interconnects, you 
know, and, and humanity is just 

1088
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,920
one big family and if it's 
coming together, you can see 

1089
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,200
that you can see that through 
through everything is online 

1090
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,840
now. 
It's amazing that people don't 

1091
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,960
it just blows my mind. 
People don't realize that that 

1092
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,880
life is going to be online. 
It's just going to get more and 

1093
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,240
more too. 
I. 

1094
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,560
Agree. 
All right, to to wrap up, what 

1095
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,520
is one thing someone listening a
millennial listening to this 

1096
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,400
right now you think needs to do 
today to protect their energy 

1097
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,560
and time before you know this 
mass awakening to Fiat money 

1098
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,720
actually hits and you cannot say
study Bitcoin. 

1099
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,800
Yeah, interesting. 
Spend less than you than you 

1100
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:03,800
earn, you know, have a surplus 
and that's and surround yourself

1101
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,000
with with people who are like 
minded. 

1102
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:12,000
And if you don't have good, not 
good, I should say bad people 

1103
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,440
around you, but people who don't
have that flourishing mentality,

1104
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,240
that mentality to to prosper and
thrive in life. 

1105
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,160
And anything that you do, be it 
physically, emotionally, 

1106
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,720
psychologically, everything 
connects. 

1107
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,480
Surround yourself with those 
people. 

1108
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,840
You know, this is part of why I 
love the Bitcoin community. 

1109
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,080
Everyone's working out, eating 
healthy, you know, they, 

1110
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,480
they're, they're inspiring me. 
You know, I got to 250 lbs and 

1111
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,240
actually 255 lbs and I'm like, 
dude, you're like I told myself 

1112
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:39,640
in the mirror, you're not going 
to let yeah, you're going to 

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live, right? 
You're, you have a baby boy like

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he's 8 months. 
You, you know, like I had a once

1115
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one with myself and I took a 
picture in the mirror post it 

1116
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just to shame myself, you know, 
because there needs to be like a

1117
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,120
trigger, you know, and like you 
said, some people might not come

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to that realization before the 
great collapse. 

1119
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,880
You know, Lawrence LaPorte calls
it the big print. 

1120
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Some people call it the great 
collapse. 

1121
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,600
But it all connects when you 
study Bitcoin and you realize 

1122
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,280
what's going on here and there. 
I'm not a very expert. 

1123
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,640
You're more into the the 
macroeconomic world and I listen

1124
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,640
to you because of that. 
And you're connecting with other

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00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,520
parts of life. 
Some people are just not going 

1126
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,880
to have that grace and they're 
going to have to get hurt, 

1127
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,240
unfortunately, you know, and 
that's where we come in. 

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00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,360
And they should surround 
themselves with with good 

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00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,240
people, you know, like minded 
people and just spend less than 

1130
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,120
they earn. 
And maybe, you know, maybe maybe

1131
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,160
invest in yourself, you know, 
learn a trade or or learn a new 

1132
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,600
skill and provide value to 
people that you will be rewarded

1133
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,920
accordingly. 
That's the market. 

1134
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,240
You know, person is not going to
pay me $1,000,000 to clean their

1135
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,560
house, right? 
So I just clean more houses. 

1136
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,760
I hire people, you know, provide
value and, and, and the world is

1137
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,920
going to give back to you. 
And if you're always negative to

1138
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,160
the universe, the universe just 
says, yes. 

1139
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,800
The universe does not know 
anything else. 

1140
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,400
It's yes, yes, yes. 
If you're like, oh, I suck, I'm 

1141
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,200
terrible, all my friends, the 
universe is going to say yes, 

1142
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,040
yes. 
But if you start saying, you 

1143
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,640
know, oh, life is great, wow, 
what a beautiful guy. 

1144
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,880
Well, this is, you know, if you 
keep being positive and 

1145
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,600
surrounding yourself with 
positive people, the universe is

1146
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,400
going to say yes. 
It's going to reinforce that. 

1147
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,640
And the, and the in the long 
term, in 10 years, you're going 

1148
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,800
to see the life you've built and
you're going to be happy with 

1149
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,680
yourself, you know, love that. 
That's the that's one of the 

1150
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,080
best endings I think I've had on
a on a pulse house. 

1151
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,000
So thank you for that. 
Thank you so much for your time 

1152
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,520
and and your insights and I'm 
rooting for you. 

1153
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,840
And yeah, thanks man. 
Really, really appreciate it. 

1154
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,440
Thank you. 
So much for having me on 

1155
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,680
brother. 
I hope you. 

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,160
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1157
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,480
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1159
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,880
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1160
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,040
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1161
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,920
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00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:00,480
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