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I'm your host, John Venom, and today we are going to be doing
the Demon Inside Paul Michael Stefani.
Now, Paul Michael Stefani was also known as the Weeping voice
killer. That's because when he called
911, he was crying for forgiveness over the phone as he
was describing the crime scenes. But before we get into that, let
me give you some background. So Paul was born on September
8th, 1944. He was the second of ten
children. He they were raised in Austin,
MN and his mother was supposedly a devout Catholic woman.
Now here's my problem with this devout Catholic woman 'cause
this is 901944. So three years when Paul was
three. This was 1947.
Back then, the Catholic religion frowned upon divorces, so how
much of A devout Catholic was she really?
She got remarried to a man when Paul was three, and his
stepfather was also a devout Catholic.
During this time, Paul was raised to fear sin.
He learned at a young age that confession was the only way to
enter heaven, which is part of the Catholic religion now.
At the same time, his stepfather, if the children got
in his way, this is what Stefani says, the stepfather would smack
them on the head and sometimes send them flying down the
stairs. So I'm sure this had a lasting
effect on Paul. I believe what Paul got out of
it was a tremendous amount of guilt and confusion.
Basically, I think he got don't get caught doing something bad
or you would pay the consequences.
But he also believed he needed to be forgiven whether anybody
knew it or not, because he knew that God knew that he needed to
be forgiven. So basically, don't get caught
by your parents, but make sure you ask God for forgiveness.
So after he graduated high school, Stefani moved to Saint
Paul in the mid 1960s and began work as a shipping clerk and a
janitor. He was briefly married and even
had a daughter. Stefani was once convicted of
aggravated assault and had a history of mental illness, and
eventually he divorced his wife and left his child behind with
her. So in 1977 he was fired from his
job at the factory. During that time he had started
dating a woman from a different country who was here and he was
happy with her until her parents called and told her that she
needed to come back home for an arranged marriage.
Well, this hurt Paul to the point where he felt betrayed.
So around comes New Year's Eve of 1981, actually 1982.
It's December of 31st, 1981 and Paul is alone and he's driving
around in the rain and he sees a woman in a red dress.
So he offers her a ride because it was cold and raining and she
accepted it. She.
Was out in my car and I gave her my dragon till I said he will be
on in a minute. I said I had to clean some of
the ice off the. Windshield, he said.
All of a sudden inside of him, he heard a voice saying, You
have to kill her. How many?
Times I just sat in dark alleys or don't go back.
Squeeze and just sit there and just talk, Talk, talk, talk,
talk. I mean, what is going on here?
There's somebody telling me, Paul, it's time to kill.
So the woman that he picked up
in the red dress, he was driving her around and the voice told
him to kill her. He takes her to where he used to
work, which the factory and he takes her behind the building.
He he beats her with a crowbar over her head.
Wait, did you hear her one? Time two times and look me up 30
times, but I mean I could put 20 times.
Were you swinging it this way or did you poke her with it?
I don't think I poked her going. I I remember just tipping a
maybe on the forehead, on the cheek and jaw, the mouth and the
top of the head. And I think it was only about 10
times because then I know you must really be hurting on that.
You know, this steel bar like that.
I was even hurt when I went back to the park.
There was going like this. I mean, and that's what I maybe
want to go to the phone. I mean where is the one that
helped her and worked it? My mind started.
Clearing. Up.
What are you doing? You had a chance to make another
friend that kept the other one at myself.
Dude, you like to make friends? He was thinking that she was
suffering and he needed to get her help.
So he calls 911 and I'm going to play that for you right now.
Yes, please. This is an emergency.
Police and a squadron pissed on the road.
Muhlenberg Manufacturing Company machine shop freezes an
ambulance too. There's a girl hurt that.
Can you tell me what happened? To her, there's freezes and
she's laying on the ground in the back by the by the railroad
tracks, by the air team. Hey.
What's the address? I don't know who are you?
So with a second victim and. Then that's when she started
telling me where she was from in Wisconsin and all, and then
says, hey, why don't you? I'm not even thinking about her
there right now. I said, hey, let me show you
downtown. I said, I want to show you
something. There's really a nice view over
here and you can see the nice river.
I think I meant to somebody who probably you have something to
tell your parents about that grass and I never opening up a
bra and bra and everything. I'm just feeling.
So and. They just start stabbing her.
He stabbed her. This victim, he stabbed her over
60 times. 48 hours later, he calls 911.
I'm going to play that for you now.
Oh, you. You find me.
I just catch somebody with an ice pick.
I can't stop myself. I keep killing somebody.
Hello. Are you there?
48 hours later, he calls 911. I'm going to play that for you
now. I couldn't help it.
Don't know why I had this Tavern.
I'm so upset about it. I keep getting drunk every day
and I can't believe this is like a big dream.
I can't think of a laptop. If I get locked up, I'll kill
myself. I'd rather kill myself to get a
laptop. I'll be trying not to kill
anybody else. After that, Paul, he kills 1/3
by drowning. Now this one is different, this
one that he drowns. He drowns her in the tub and he
doesn't call 911 this time, but on the 4th, 1:00 he calls 911
again and he says well take a listen to it.
By your emergency. Please don't talk and listen.
I'm sorry I killed a girl. I stand there 40 times.
Kimberly Compton was the first one of my Facebook.
I don't know what the man is. I'm going to kill myself and
think I'm just going to buy somebody, guys, and it's me.
So for his last victim, which was actually the survivor, he
picks up this young woman. Now, all these women didn't have
anything in common. They didn't look the same, they
didn't dress the same, they didn't.
The only one common factor that they had was each one of them
had on something red, one of the victims, and he actually says on
one of the phone calls if somebody in red dies tonight or
if you find somebody in red dead tomorrow, it's because I killed
them. There was something about the
color red, and it got me thinking because if you guys
remember the nurse, Elizabeth Wetlaufer, she used to say that
she had this thing inside her that she called the red Serge.
Now this guy is looking at red and killing people and saying
that inside of them somebody is telling them that he needs to
kill. Kind of sounds familiar.
I mean, to me it does. So Stefani grabs gets a girl who
is a prostitute and her name is Denise Williams.
And Denise is 18 years old, and she's a survivor.
This girl. She said she felt something that
wasn't right with them. Now, we've heard that before as
well with some of the victims that have survived that.
They say there's something wrong with this guy.
It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel normal.
We will be right back after a word from our hey guys, Now it's
time for the Uber shout out of the week.
And today, Oh my God, it was so funny.
So I get a call to pick up somebody from Six Flags, which
here in Texas are in San Antonio.
It's called Fiesta Texas. And if you guys will remember, I
had picked up a guy from Kia or from Mazda a while back and his
name was Paul. And so I had promised Paul I
wasn't going to do Uber during my trips anymore.
So I get a call from Six Flags Fiesta Texas.
I go pick up this person and it's Kalia.
Kalia is a salesperson here at World Car Kia.
I was freaking out and me, you know, I don't like to cancel on
rides, especially when they're waiting on me.
So I picked her up. I was hoping she wasn't going to
notice me, but I was in uniform. She saw my patch.
She says, hey, I know Nighthawk security and the minute that I
turned around she saw me and she's like, what are you doing
here? So now I really truly can't do
Uber during the night time. She didn't tell on me, but I
probably have to wait a little bit.
She actually, I told her about Paul and Kalia told me.
Well, you know what? If you give me a shout out and
say to come buy a car from me here at World Carm Kia on 35 N
between Pat Booker and or, what is it?
Yeah, Pat Booker and O'Connor Rd.
She'll treat you guys right. So, Kalia, this is your shout
out. She's a salesperson at Kia.
Come on down here if you want a car, and hopefully I don't get
fired from the stupid job because I really do need it.
All right, guys, back to the show and welcome back to the
demon inside. So she started actually feeling
very uncomfortable and looking around for a weapon that she
could use. And she found a bottle, a glass
bottle that was on the floor of his car.
So he took her to a hotel, they had sex, he pays her, he starts
driving her back to the city. And this is when she starts
feeling uncomfortable. He keeps telling her they're
going towards the city, but she realizes they're going through
normal streets. They're not going through the
highway. They're taking like a long way
around. And then she realizes they're
not going to the city. So he ends up taking her to this
part of town where there's basically nobody.
And he tries to stab her. Actually, he does stab her with
a screwdriver. He stabs her 15 times.
But this girl, Denise Williams, she grabbed that bottle, hit him
over the head with a glass bottle and started stabbing his
face and stabbing his arms and just trying to get away.
So she jumps out of the car, he jumps after her.
They start wrestling again and this time there's a man down the
street that hears this commotion and he approaches and Stefani
like tries to go after him but decides he can't.
So he gets in his car and he drives away.
They call the police. They, the police come out and by
this time the police had already figured out that it was Paul
Stefani because when he picked up his 4th, 4th victim, he
picked her up from a bar and he had sat there and talked to her
while they ate or while they drank.
And she ended up going home with them.
But before she left, she told the bartender, I hope this guy's
really a nice guy 'cause I'm going home with him.
And for some odd reason that she said that the bartender took
notice. So when police brought in some
pictures of known felons in the area, the bartender actually
picked out his picture. So they had started following
Stefani as of that time, but he was already killing or trying to
kill Denise Williams by the time they So Denise Williams escapes
and goes to the hospital. They call up the police.
They call the fire department or they call the ambulance.
They call the police. She goes to the hospital and
they're stitching her up and the detectives get there and they
start questioning her and they show her a picture of Paul
Stefani. Now they show her the picture
because this guy, Paul Stefani, not a very bright guy, calls 911
and starts to weep on the phone, except he's not calling about
who he stabbed. He's calling 911 for help
because she did a job on him. He was bleeding to the point
where he couldn't stop it. I tell you what, guys, this girl
at the time is amazing, and I know she got hurt, but she
stopped this killer from killing anybody else.
So he calls 911, He's crying. You know what?
I'm going to go ahead and play it for you.
Listen to this. Your name one.
Square one. Five O 5, Westminster 15-O. 5.
Yeah, Westminster. What's the?
Problem. I'm all cut up.
I got beat up. What's your?
Apartment #2. O8 I'm bleeding.
Two O 8 Where are you bleeding from?
From the arm, my face. So after that, the police get a
call saying that there's a woman that got stabbed.
They go to the hospital, she starts giving the description of
who she saw. They bring in pictures and she
points out Paul Stefani. Well, then they end up getting a
call from dispatch saying, hey, this guy just called us.
He's at this location. He wants an ambulance.
So they go, they pick him up, they treat his wounds, and they
arrest him. While he's there in jail, he
confesses the three murders that the police knew about.
The girl that he drowned, this was going to last 15 years
before they knew it was him because he never called 911.
Now for me I have to wonder why because after all the other ones
he called 911 but he didn't because of a drowning.
I'm thinking maybe the red like the blood, but maybe because he
stabbed them and they were red with blood, he felt like he
needed forgiveness and so he would call the Police Department
to ask for forgiveness. Like you heard on the tapes
earlier. Maybe with this one and this is
just a long shot coming from me, maybe he thought he was
baptizing her into death I guess because he drowned her.
Supposedly they were both in the tub naked.
So 15 years like I said go by and he brings up that death.
So All in all he end up killing four women and injuring 2.
Now I forgot the first woman that he beat over the head.
She actually lived because he called 911 and they got to her
in time. What is the point of calling to
ask for forgiveness? Now, people have been saying
that he was faking the whole thing and the calls were fake.
But here's the problem I have with that.
If you listen to the call when he calls 911 for help, you can
hear the same kind of voice. He was calling when he was
asking for forgiveness after he murdered somebody.
We're talking. He was really hurt and he was
freaking out and he was talking in his voice.
So I don't think he was faking because if I was going to fake,
I would honestly fake differently and try to be
different than what I would usually cry.
Like, you know, now, could this red surge have been one of those
things that a demon might have had inside of him?
He never calls it a red surge, but he does say that this demon
or this voice in his head would tell him you have to kill her.
If you start hearing voices in your head telling you to kill
people, would you do it? Paul started this whole thing on
New Year's Eve alone. Think about that.
No family, no friends, no girlfriend, no wife.
He was utterly alone and this voice came to him and told him
he needed to kill that girl. He even says why are you killing
her? You want friends.
And this is the problem I have, he says, and if you hear him
correctly, he makes himself out to be like the third person.
He says you like friends, you want to make friends.
I think that's weird because could it be multiple personality
disorder? Or could it be The Demon Inside?
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