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Hello my demon insiders, and 13 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,040 welcome back to the Demon inside. 14 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,120 I'm your host, John Venom, and today we are going to be doing 15 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,560 the Demon Inside Paul Michael Stefani. 16 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,640 Now, Paul Michael Stefani was also known as the Weeping voice 17 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,280 killer. That's because when he called 18 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,880 911, he was crying for forgiveness over the phone as he 19 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:49,760 was describing the crime scenes. But before we get into that, let 20 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,720 me give you some background. So Paul was born on September 21 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,440 8th, 1944. He was the second of ten 22 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,760 children. He they were raised in Austin, 23 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,919 MN and his mother was supposedly a devout Catholic woman. 24 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,520 Now here's my problem with this devout Catholic woman 'cause 25 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,880 this is 901944. So three years when Paul was 26 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,560 three. This was 1947. 27 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:33,560 Back then, the Catholic religion frowned upon divorces, so how 28 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,080 much of A devout Catholic was she really? 29 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:46,320 She got remarried to a man when Paul was three, and his 30 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,080 stepfather was also a devout Catholic. 31 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,360 During this time, Paul was raised to fear sin. 32 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,800 He learned at a young age that confession was the only way to 33 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,480 enter heaven, which is part of the Catholic religion now. 34 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,840 At the same time, his stepfather, if the children got 35 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:16,680 in his way, this is what Stefani says, the stepfather would smack 36 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,800 them on the head and sometimes send them flying down the 37 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,960 stairs. So I'm sure this had a lasting 38 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,400 effect on Paul. I believe what Paul got out of 39 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,680 it was a tremendous amount of guilt and confusion. 40 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Basically, I think he got don't get caught doing something bad 41 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,720 or you would pay the consequences. 42 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,040 But he also believed he needed to be forgiven whether anybody 43 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,560 knew it or not, because he knew that God knew that he needed to 44 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,080 be forgiven. So basically, don't get caught 45 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,720 by your parents, but make sure you ask God for forgiveness. 46 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,000 So after he graduated high school, Stefani moved to Saint 47 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Paul in the mid 1960s and began work as a shipping clerk and a 48 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,800 janitor. He was briefly married and even 49 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,519 had a daughter. Stefani was once convicted of 50 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:23,400 aggravated assault and had a history of mental illness, and 51 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,000 eventually he divorced his wife and left his child behind with 52 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,480 her. So in 1977 he was fired from his 53 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,640 job at the factory. During that time he had started 54 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,200 dating a woman from a different country who was here and he was 55 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,920 happy with her until her parents called and told her that she 56 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 needed to come back home for an arranged marriage. 57 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,280 Well, this hurt Paul to the point where he felt betrayed. 58 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:01,280 So around comes New Year's Eve of 1981, actually 1982. 59 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:08,960 It's December of 31st, 1981 and Paul is alone and he's driving 60 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,640 around in the rain and he sees a woman in a red dress. 61 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,480 So he offers her a ride because it was cold and raining and she 62 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:20,920 accepted it. She. 63 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Was out in my car and I gave her my dragon till I said he will be 64 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,200 on in a minute. I said I had to clean some of 65 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,800 the ice off the. Windshield, he said. 66 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:34,840 All of a sudden inside of him, he heard a voice saying, You 67 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:35,880 have to kill her. How many? 68 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Times I just sat in dark alleys or don't go back. 69 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Squeeze and just sit there and just talk, Talk, talk, talk, 70 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,400 talk. I mean, what is going on here? 71 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,680 There's somebody telling me, Paul, it's time to kill. 72 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,280 Paul, it's time to kill. So the woman that he picked up 73 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:55,520 in the red dress, he was driving her around and the voice told 74 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:02,600 him to kill her. He takes her to where he used to 75 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,920 work, which the factory and he takes her behind the building. 76 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,200 He he beats her with a crowbar over her head. 77 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,920 Wait, did you hear her one? Time two times and look me up 30 78 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,240 times, but I mean I could put 20 times. 79 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,280 Were you swinging it this way or did you poke her with it? 80 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,680 I don't think I poked her going. I I remember just tipping a 81 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,320 maybe on the forehead, on the cheek and jaw, the mouth and the 82 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,600 top of the head. And I think it was only about 10 83 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,160 times because then I know you must really be hurting on that. 84 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,640 You know, this steel bar like that. 85 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,960 I was even hurt when I went back to the park. 86 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,120 There was going like this. I mean, and that's what I maybe 87 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,840 want to go to the phone. I mean where is the one that 88 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,080 helped her and worked it? My mind started. 89 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Clearing. Up. 90 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,360 What are you doing? You had a chance to make another 91 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,880 friend that kept the other one at myself. 92 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,280 Dude, you like to make friends? He was thinking that she was 93 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:01,440 suffering and he needed to get her help. 94 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:08,400 So he calls 911 and I'm going to play that for you right now. 95 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Yes, please. This is an emergency. 96 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,480 Police and a squadron pissed on the road. 97 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Muhlenberg Manufacturing Company machine shop freezes an 98 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,200 ambulance too. There's a girl hurt that. 99 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Can you tell me what happened? To her, there's freezes and 100 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,920 she's laying on the ground in the back by the by the railroad 101 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,760 tracks, by the air team. Hey. 102 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,160 What's the address? I don't know who are you? 103 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,120 So with a second victim and. Then that's when she started 104 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,280 telling me where she was from in Wisconsin and all, and then 105 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,560 says, hey, why don't you? I'm not even thinking about her 106 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,240 there right now. I said, hey, let me show you 107 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,960 downtown. I said, I want to show you 108 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,280 something. There's really a nice view over 109 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,440 here and you can see the nice river. 110 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,040 I think I meant to somebody who probably you have something to 111 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,920 tell your parents about that grass and I never opening up a 112 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,880 bra and bra and everything. I'm just feeling. 113 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,200 So and. They just start stabbing her. 114 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,160 He stabbed her. This victim, he stabbed her over 115 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:14,320 60 times. 48 hours later, he calls 911. 116 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,280 I'm going to play that for you now. 117 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Oh, you. You find me. 118 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,560 I just catch somebody with an ice pick. 119 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,520 I can't stop myself. I keep killing somebody. 120 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Hello. Are you there? 121 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:35,159 48 hours later, he calls 911. I'm going to play that for you 122 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:38,360 now. I couldn't help it. 123 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,919 Don't know why I had this Tavern. 124 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,600 I'm so upset about it. I keep getting drunk every day 125 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:49,360 and I can't believe this is like a big dream. 126 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,720 I can't think of a laptop. If I get locked up, I'll kill 127 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,240 myself. I'd rather kill myself to get a 128 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,160 laptop. I'll be trying not to kill 129 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:07,000 anybody else. After that, Paul, he kills 1/3 130 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,720 by drowning. Now this one is different, this 131 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,080 one that he drowns. He drowns her in the tub and he 132 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:28,760 doesn't call 911 this time, but on the 4th, 1:00 he calls 911 133 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,240 again and he says well take a listen to it. 134 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,520 By your emergency. Please don't talk and listen. 135 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,480 I'm sorry I killed a girl. I stand there 40 times. 136 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Kimberly Compton was the first one of my Facebook. 137 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,960 I don't know what the man is. I'm going to kill myself and 138 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,000 think I'm just going to buy somebody, guys, and it's me. 139 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:06,280 So for his last victim, which was actually the survivor, he 140 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,440 picks up this young woman. Now, all these women didn't have 141 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,720 anything in common. They didn't look the same, they 142 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,240 didn't dress the same, they didn't. 143 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:21,640 The only one common factor that they had was each one of them 144 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:31,000 had on something red, one of the victims, and he actually says on 145 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:38,120 one of the phone calls if somebody in red dies tonight or 146 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,720 if you find somebody in red dead tomorrow, it's because I killed 147 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,520 them. There was something about the 148 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,560 color red, and it got me thinking because if you guys 149 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:59,600 remember the nurse, Elizabeth Wetlaufer, she used to say that 150 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,480 she had this thing inside her that she called the red Serge. 151 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,480 Now this guy is looking at red and killing people and saying 152 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,880 that inside of them somebody is telling them that he needs to 153 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,440 kill. Kind of sounds familiar. 154 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:33,200 I mean, to me it does. So Stefani grabs gets a girl who 155 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,960 is a prostitute and her name is Denise Williams. 156 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:43,920 And Denise is 18 years old, and she's a survivor. 157 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,440 This girl. She said she felt something that 158 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,520 wasn't right with them. Now, we've heard that before as 159 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,760 well with some of the victims that have survived that. 160 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,040 They say there's something wrong with this guy. 161 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,360 It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel normal. 162 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:08,400 We will be right back after a word from our hey guys, Now it's 163 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,160 time for the Uber shout out of the week. 164 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,400 And today, Oh my God, it was so funny. 165 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:22,480 So I get a call to pick up somebody from Six Flags, which 166 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,200 here in Texas are in San Antonio. 167 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:30,400 It's called Fiesta Texas. And if you guys will remember, I 168 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,800 had picked up a guy from Kia or from Mazda a while back and his 169 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,200 name was Paul. And so I had promised Paul I 170 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,960 wasn't going to do Uber during my trips anymore. 171 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,800 So I get a call from Six Flags Fiesta Texas. 172 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,400 I go pick up this person and it's Kalia. 173 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Kalia is a salesperson here at World Car Kia. 174 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:06,560 I was freaking out and me, you know, I don't like to cancel on 175 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,760 rides, especially when they're waiting on me. 176 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,680 So I picked her up. I was hoping she wasn't going to 177 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:16,480 notice me, but I was in uniform. She saw my patch. 178 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:22,600 She says, hey, I know Nighthawk security and the minute that I 179 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,880 turned around she saw me and she's like, what are you doing 180 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:34,120 here? So now I really truly can't do 181 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:40,040 Uber during the night time. She didn't tell on me, but I 182 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,000 probably have to wait a little bit. 183 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,120 She actually, I told her about Paul and Kalia told me. 184 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Well, you know what? If you give me a shout out and 185 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,800 say to come buy a car from me here at World Carm Kia on 35 N 186 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,480 between Pat Booker and or, what is it? 187 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,560 Yeah, Pat Booker and O'Connor Rd. 188 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:12,200 She'll treat you guys right. So, Kalia, this is your shout 189 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,920 out. She's a salesperson at Kia. 190 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,760 Come on down here if you want a car, and hopefully I don't get 191 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,400 fired from the stupid job because I really do need it. 192 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,000 All right, guys, back to the show and welcome back to the 193 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 demon inside. So she started actually feeling 194 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,640 very uncomfortable and looking around for a weapon that she 195 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:42,520 could use. And she found a bottle, a glass 196 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,720 bottle that was on the floor of his car. 197 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:55,240 So he took her to a hotel, they had sex, he pays her, he starts 198 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,320 driving her back to the city. And this is when she starts 199 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:05,160 feeling uncomfortable. He keeps telling her they're 200 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,400 going towards the city, but she realizes they're going through 201 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,720 normal streets. They're not going through the 202 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,280 highway. They're taking like a long way 203 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,720 around. And then she realizes they're 204 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,200 not going to the city. So he ends up taking her to this 205 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,600 part of town where there's basically nobody. 206 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,960 And he tries to stab her. Actually, he does stab her with 207 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:36,400 a screwdriver. He stabs her 15 times. 208 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:44,240 But this girl, Denise Williams, she grabbed that bottle, hit him 209 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,360 over the head with a glass bottle and started stabbing his 210 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,320 face and stabbing his arms and just trying to get away. 211 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,840 So she jumps out of the car, he jumps after her. 212 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:06,920 They start wrestling again and this time there's a man down the 213 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:13,120 street that hears this commotion and he approaches and Stefani 214 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,000 like tries to go after him but decides he can't. 215 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 So he gets in his car and he drives away. 216 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:26,600 They call the police. They, the police come out and by 217 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:32,240 this time the police had already figured out that it was Paul 218 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:40,080 Stefani because when he picked up his 4th, 4th victim, he 219 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,960 picked her up from a bar and he had sat there and talked to her 220 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,200 while they ate or while they drank. 221 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,040 And she ended up going home with them. 222 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,920 But before she left, she told the bartender, I hope this guy's 223 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,880 really a nice guy 'cause I'm going home with him. 224 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,640 And for some odd reason that she said that the bartender took 225 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,760 notice. So when police brought in some 226 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:14,599 pictures of known felons in the area, the bartender actually 227 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:20,599 picked out his picture. So they had started following 228 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:27,440 Stefani as of that time, but he was already killing or trying to 229 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:40,520 kill Denise Williams by the time they So Denise Williams escapes 230 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,680 and goes to the hospital. They call up the police. 231 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,400 They call the fire department or they call the ambulance. 232 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,480 They call the police. She goes to the hospital and 233 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,280 they're stitching her up and the detectives get there and they 234 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,440 start questioning her and they show her a picture of Paul 235 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,640 Stefani. Now they show her the picture 236 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:11,720 because this guy, Paul Stefani, not a very bright guy, calls 911 237 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:20,920 and starts to weep on the phone, except he's not calling about 238 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:25,840 who he stabbed. He's calling 911 for help 239 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,280 because she did a job on him. He was bleeding to the point 240 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:38,600 where he couldn't stop it. I tell you what, guys, this girl 241 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:46,680 at the time is amazing, and I know she got hurt, but she 242 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,680 stopped this killer from killing anybody else. 243 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,240 So he calls 911, He's crying. You know what? 244 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,480 I'm going to go ahead and play it for you. 245 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,600 Listen to this. Your name one. 246 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,160 Square one. Five O 5, Westminster 15-O. 5. 247 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,360 Yeah, Westminster. What's the? 248 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,360 Problem. I'm all cut up. 249 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,680 I got beat up. What's your? 250 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Apartment #2. O8 I'm bleeding. 251 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,920 Two O 8 Where are you bleeding from? 252 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:26,160 From the arm, my face. So after that, the police get a 253 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:32,200 call saying that there's a woman that got stabbed. 254 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,440 They go to the hospital, she starts giving the description of 255 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:43,640 who she saw. They bring in pictures and she 256 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,440 points out Paul Stefani. Well, then they end up getting a 257 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,320 call from dispatch saying, hey, this guy just called us. 258 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,240 He's at this location. He wants an ambulance. 259 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:04,160 So they go, they pick him up, they treat his wounds, and they 260 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,280 arrest him. While he's there in jail, he 261 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,040 confesses the three murders that the police knew about. 262 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,920 The girl that he drowned, this was going to last 15 years 263 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,400 before they knew it was him because he never called 911. 264 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Now for me I have to wonder why because after all the other ones 265 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,880 he called 911 but he didn't because of a drowning. 266 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:46,160 I'm thinking maybe the red like the blood, but maybe because he 267 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,400 stabbed them and they were red with blood, he felt like he 268 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,680 needed forgiveness and so he would call the Police Department 269 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:57,760 to ask for forgiveness. Like you heard on the tapes 270 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:03,600 earlier. Maybe with this one and this is 271 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,960 just a long shot coming from me, maybe he thought he was 272 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:16,400 baptizing her into death I guess because he drowned her. 273 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Supposedly they were both in the tub naked. 274 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,560 So 15 years like I said go by and he brings up that death. 275 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:38,120 So All in all he end up killing four women and injuring 2. 276 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Now I forgot the first woman that he beat over the head. 277 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,080 She actually lived because he called 911 and they got to her 278 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:56,080 in time. What is the point of calling to 279 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,040 ask for forgiveness? Now, people have been saying 280 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:07,520 that he was faking the whole thing and the calls were fake. 281 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,600 But here's the problem I have with that. 282 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,760 If you listen to the call when he calls 911 for help, you can 283 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,120 hear the same kind of voice. He was calling when he was 284 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:23,120 asking for forgiveness after he murdered somebody. 285 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,800 We're talking. He was really hurt and he was 286 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:33,120 freaking out and he was talking in his voice. 287 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,080 So I don't think he was faking because if I was going to fake, 288 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,080 I would honestly fake differently and try to be 289 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,560 different than what I would usually cry. 290 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:55,800 Like, you know, now, could this red surge have been one of those 291 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,720 things that a demon might have had inside of him? 292 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:08,320 He never calls it a red surge, but he does say that this demon 293 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:14,800 or this voice in his head would tell him you have to kill her. 294 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:24,200 If you start hearing voices in your head telling you to kill 295 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:30,440 people, would you do it? Paul started this whole thing on 296 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,480 New Year's Eve alone. Think about that. 297 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,400 No family, no friends, no girlfriend, no wife. 298 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:50,960 He was utterly alone and this voice came to him and told him 299 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:59,640 he needed to kill that girl. He even says why are you killing 300 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,600 her? You want friends. 301 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,080 And this is the problem I have, he says, and if you hear him 302 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,600 correctly, he makes himself out to be like the third person. 303 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,200 He says you like friends, you want to make friends. 304 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:30,680 I think that's weird because could it be multiple personality 305 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,080 disorder? Or could it be The Demon Inside? 306 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,160 Thanks for listening guys. Have a good one. 307 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,440 See you all next week. 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