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I spoke with one man who told me 12 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,960 he's been a patient of Tony's for years. 13 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:13,840 He said he saw him at this very location around Thanksgiving. 14 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,920 He also spoke about the kind of man Tony was and the man the 15 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,160 community knew. I'm. 16 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Sick to my stomach a little bit, not really sure why, I just kind 17 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,480 of want answers. Answers the entire Colchester 18 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,480 community has been looking for ever since the Todd family was 19 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,880 reported missing more than a week ago. 20 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,360 A Facebook page was shared by residents throughout town 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,840 looking for answers after the Tots and their three young 22 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,280 children had not been seen or heard from in over a week. 23 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,000 When I first saw the missing group, I was definitely alarmed 24 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,080 because I I hadn't seen Tony for a long time, actually well over 25 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,600 a month. And I myself was wondering, you 26 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,640 know, where he had been and why he hasn't been coming back. 27 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Austin O'Brien is a patient of Tony's. 28 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,480 He told me he's been going to Tony for physical therapy since 29 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,320 he was in high school. He told us he knew the family 30 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,919 had moved to Florida, but Tony had been back and forth, still 31 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,440 seeing patients in Colchester. Right before Thanksgiving. 32 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,360 You know, I'd just seen him, Probably my last visit with him. 33 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,640 He worked on me, not as talkative as he usually is. 34 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:23,240 He was kind of on his phone a lot. 35 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,360 Austin says that was very unlike Tony. 36 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,920 He was a friendly man who often spoke about his children. 37 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Tony knows that I have a newborn and you know, we've been talking 38 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,560 about that for a long time. He always talked about his 39 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,480 children and his family and even like just giving me tips and and 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,520 stuff for my newborn. Austin was one of many patients 41 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,080 surprised to get a call from the office in December, canceling 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,160 appointments for the time being. A sign still hangs on the door 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,360 today stating the office is closed in Colchester. 44 00:02:54,360 --> 00:03:00,920 Ashley Afonso, FOX 61 News. Hello, my demon insiders, and 45 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:02,720 welcome back to the demon inside. 46 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,640 I'm your host, John Venom, and today we are going to be talking 47 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:10,760 about the demon inside Anthony John Tot. 48 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Now his friends called him Tony. So throughout the show, I'll 49 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,840 call him Tony. Before I start. 50 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,640 I want to send a couple of shout outs. 51 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,320 So the first shout out I'm going to send is to Catherine, who was 52 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,080 a Uber customer that I had that I drove home. 53 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:36,360 And the next one is Joshua, who I drove from the airport to a 54 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Airbnb. And both of these people, I'm so 55 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,760 sorry. I started talking about my 56 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,880 podcast and I actually had to play them like the trailers and 57 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,200 stuff. And I think they both freaked 58 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,360 out, but I promised them a shout out. 59 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,520 So that's what I'm doing right now. 60 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,760 So let's get back to the show. So let me give you a warning 61 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:03,120 because this is a father who father and a husband who killed 62 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:10,720 his wife and his three children. Now his children were ages 1311 63 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,120 and four. It was 2 males and one female 64 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,200 and the female was four years old, which is really sad. 65 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,760 So and he also killed the family dog. 66 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,880 So if you're very sensitive to these materials that I'm going 67 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,400 to start talking about, I suggest not listening to this 68 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,880 podcast. I'm going to try to keep it more 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,040 true crime. But at the end, of course, it's 70 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,120 going to, I'm going to throw out some supernatural things that I 71 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,040 found. Plus, it kind of was similar to 72 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:50,680 the last podcast that I did on Michael Miller, and it's also 73 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,040 similar to the killings that happened in Brownsville with 74 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,960 John Allen Rubio and his wife Angela Camacho. 75 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,160 Tony Todd met a girl in middle school who would later they 76 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,040 would be married together and own a business together. 77 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,160 Now. They were both physical 78 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:16,200 therapists and Tony was a very kind, very loving, very a 79 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,560 talkative person and not just with his family. 80 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,200 I'm talking with the whole community where they were living 81 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,880 in Colchester, Connecticut. This is a guy that would do 82 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:31,640 physical therapy not just in his practice, but also if somebody 83 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,800 needed him, he would do it sometimes for free. 84 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,800 He was a very loving, very giving person. 85 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,640 He also was a youth soccer coach. 86 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:48,280 And Tony from what? People say that knew him. 87 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Said that this guy was just the best person they also talked 88 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:02,120 about his wife Megan and Megan was a yoga instructor she was a 89 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,440 physical therapist as well she helped him start the business 90 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:11,600 and she was a loving mother who actually according to friends 91 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:17,560 and family she was a very nice loving person who homeschooled 92 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,040 her kids. This was probably one of those 93 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,440 crimes that people which they have, have had a very hard time 94 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,320 trying to figure out what happened. 95 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:36,600 So in 2017, Tony and Megan had three children, like I said, 96 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:44,280 1311 and four, and Megan started looking into new religions. 97 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,840 She started to get into this type of religion that was kind 98 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:55,880 of like Hinduism. But the religion that she was on 99 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,160 was actually they were Skyping their religious beliefs back and 100 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,680 forth to them. Now, according to Tony, he 101 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,520 wasn't really into the religion as much as she was. 102 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,040 This was in 2017. By 2017, things started taking a 103 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:21,360 turn towards a darker side. Tony had his practice for so 104 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,640 long, over 20 years or something like that, along those lines. 105 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,520 But as of 2017, he was starting to get under investigation by 106 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,240 the FBI. Now they were saying that a lot 107 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,560 of what was happening was he was double charging clients that 108 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,840 basically he was saying that they were coming in and doing 109 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:53,360 their physical therapy when they were not and he was charging for 110 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,640 that and they were going to arrest him on insurance fraud. 111 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,040 This was coming up to 2019, so from 2017 to 2019. 112 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:07,400 Now, the way it sounds is we're talking millions and millions of 113 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,280 dollars. No, we're talking thousands of 114 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,600 dollars. This guy was actually covering 115 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,400 everything that he was doing. He was paying loans. 116 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,440 He had a lot of loans out. He had a lot of. 117 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Basically, for me, this guy's business ethics weren't as good 118 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,800 as his physical therapy. I think he was a better, better 119 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,799 physical therapist than he was a businessman when it comes to 120 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:38,280 keeping the books. And so he started doing the 121 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,919 traditional, I'll get a credit card to cover these bills. 122 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:43,840 I'll get a credit card to cover these bills. 123 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,920 And that's what he was doing up until a point where he started 124 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 overcharging to try to make up some of the money. 125 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:58,560 Now he was in debt, but he was only in debt about $100,000. 126 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:05,640 Now it seems to us like a lot like for me, $100,000 is pretty 127 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,480 much the world to me. But with the physical therapy 128 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,440 therapy practice with him and his wife, and he was actually, 129 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:22,640 he had two physical therapy businesses that were running and 130 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,640 he had just bought new medical equipment to help his business 131 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,600 grow, which kind of put him more in the hole. 132 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,840 And like I said, he started using more and more credit 133 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,120 cards. Now, here's the thing. 134 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,920 And This is why the police think that This is why he killed his 135 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,520 family. But I don't think that's why, 136 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:52,120 because he could have easily called bankruptcy. 137 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,440 He could have moved his practice to a different location. 138 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,480 Now let me let me get back into this. 139 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,840 So he was in Connecticut. His wife was feeling sick 140 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,480 because she had Lyme disease from a tick that she got. 141 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,480 And they ended up moving to Florida and they were in Florida 142 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:18,680 for a couple of years. And Tony would travel back and 143 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:25,040 forth during the week to run his practice, which is a lot of 144 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,160 money. I don't know why he didn't just 145 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,840 sublet his company or run it from Florida. 146 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,640 But like I said, he wasn't a really good business person at 147 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,800 this point. I and A lot of business owners, 148 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,240 what they like to do is try to keep control over their business 149 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,800 and they don't want to release that control. 150 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,160 So this was one of the reasons he kept flying back and forth. 151 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Now, the reason that they moved to Florida was because, like I 152 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:58,520 said, his wife Megan was feeling sick and Florida's weather was a 153 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,320 lot better for her sickness. Now, this is according to Tony. 154 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,320 I couldn't find anything that said diseases that she had or 155 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,080 whatever 'cause Tony comes out with a whole list. 156 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,520 The only thing that I know for sure, and this was through the 157 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,000 autopsy, was that she had Lyme disease. 158 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,720 Now, I looked up Lyme disease. Sometimes it gives you 159 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,160 hallucinations. It causes pain. 160 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,800 There's a lot of things that go with Lyme disease. 161 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,640 But for me, it's kind of weird that it took over her whole life 162 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:37,880 for years because supposedly it happened in 2011 when she got 163 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Lyme disease. And we're talking about 2017 all 164 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,480 the way to 2019 when they lived in Florida. 165 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:50,720 And supposedly she was fine with it, but Tony kept saying that 166 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,400 she was getting weaker and weaker. 167 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Why that was happening I don't know, but I think it had to do 168 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,840 more with her new religious beliefs. 169 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Now the reason I say that is because she thought that the end 170 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:11,480 of the world was going to happen in December 28th of 2019. 171 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Now according to her, she said that her family had been cursed, 172 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:26,600 that her family lineage needed a carbon burning to be 173 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:33,000 reincarnated. Basically, she was saying that 174 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,040 this religion was teaching her that if she died or if the kids 175 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,920 died or whoever, that they would be reincarnation. 176 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,080 She was also studying a book called The Medical Medium, which 177 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,240 was giving her different holistic types of remedies. 178 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,880 Here's something that was kind of freaky, but before I tell you 179 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,800 this, let me just say this. When Megan told him she had a 180 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,120 vision while meditating, telling her the end of the world was 181 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,560 beginning with a virus attack, an eventual invasion, she said 182 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,920 he would be captured and killed. She would be granted salvation 183 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,360 when the boy's souls were released. 184 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:29,680 Now, Megan died around the end of December of 2019. 185 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,080 OK, She said that this virus was going to take over. 186 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,480 This virus was going to happen. Now, let me remind you guys. 187 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,720 Here's something for the supernatural. 188 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:48,360 Let me remind you COVID happened December 31st of 2019. 189 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,680 She was predicting that the end of the world was going to happen 190 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:58,400 on the 28th of December through a virus. 191 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:04,840 December 31st COVID is mentioned and started. 192 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:15,720 Now, this religion also had signs of Greek and Egyptian 193 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,360 beliefs, which we've gone over before through other shows where 194 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,360 an Egyptian belief pops up. But let me continue. 195 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:33,400 So I have a lot of recordings of Tony talking about how he killed 196 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,400 his kids. This is very hard, guys. 197 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:42,760 I'm just letting you know now, and I have to let you listen to 198 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:50,960 this because it's going to help you understand that this guy is 199 00:14:51,760 --> 00:15:01,240 either possessed and he doesn't know what happened or he's on a 200 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:07,080 mental breakdown or like a cold killer. 201 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:15,120 But here's the thing. He lived with his family for a 202 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,800 month, almost a month, while they were decaying in the house, 203 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,360 in the bedroom where he was going to sleep. 204 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,400 So let's start off with the first killing. 205 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,440 I'm going to play that now. Woke up at 11:30 at night the 206 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:40,600 the alarm for 11:30 at night and got up out of bed and it was 207 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Zoe. First Meg walked into the room, 208 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,360 and then she walked back into her room. 209 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,960 Step by step. So, so you guys are sleeping in 210 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,560 the master room I'm assuming? Yes, my friend, I guess. 211 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,960 And the dog. And the puppy? 212 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:01,840 OK, which boy was upstairs? Zoe lives upstairs in her room. 213 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:08,240 OK, Alec was upstairs in his room, Tyler was asleep 214 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,880 downstairs in the library room. And why I? 215 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,640 Get Was he down there? The two of them were sick, so we 216 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,880 kept them apart. OK. 217 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,400 All right, so go ahead. Sorry. 218 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,440 So. We walked to the door. 219 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,960 It was always dark. Megan. 220 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,520 I hugged and kissed and pretty much, you know what you need to 221 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,080 do, come back at me when we're done. 222 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,040 But when there's always room and it took me two or three hours 223 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:43,920 sitting there because it was, it's a tough, but the 224 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,200 everlasting salvation and the the thought of that everlasting 225 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 salvation was there and I needed to save your soul to be with us. 226 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Man kept coming in. What's going on? 227 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,400 Like it'll be done in a little bit. 228 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,240 It'll be done in a little bit. Just getting past that. 229 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:07,079 I'm not die back, you know. But then she rolled and started 230 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:11,520 scribbling and I put my hand over her mouth and then put a 231 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,079 pillow over top of her. So she went and then she started 232 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:18,000 to fade away and just held that until there was no motion left. 233 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,319 So you didn't lay on her? I did lay on her when she lay on 234 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:24,160 her belly. I'm sorry. 235 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,520 I laid on her to keep her down and I put the pillow. 236 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:37,440 On top. So now Zoe is deceased and what 237 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,080 happens next? Walk Out stood with Megan in the 238 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,600 room for a little while. How was the body? 239 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,000 What? Do you mean? 240 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,280 How did you? How was the positioning? 241 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,600 How? Where was the pillow? 242 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,280 There was a pillow behind her head and her hands were out to 243 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,800 the side and I made sure the covers were on top of her. 244 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Just gymnastics she could warm. Did she have anything in her 245 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,640 hands? No, I had put a rosary in her 246 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,840 hands later on when I moved. So after he killed his daughter, 247 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,320 he goes into his son's room, his oldest son. 248 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,880 And I'm going to play that for you now, so. 249 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Zoe's gone. You and Megan console each 250 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,160 other. Whatever you guys have to do. 251 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,640 And then what happens? We go into the Alex room. 252 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Alex room? Yes, the one that's to the 253 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,120 bathroom, the upstairs. The upstairs, yeah. 254 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:41,600 And beforehand we had talked about the aspect of she's got to 255 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:47,560 hold his feet down and out to the stab. 256 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,560 How old's Alec 13? OK, so he's the oldest. 257 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,080 OK, So what happens? We walk in, he's on his back, 258 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,360 she holds, she's just sitting there holding his feet together. 259 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:09,400 We're just in there just eyeing each other, just gaining the 260 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:16,400 confidence, I guess, you know. And I go to like, I stabbed him 261 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:23,280 and he started kicking, was trying to get up and he kept 262 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,400 rolling. So I ended up putting a, there 263 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,800 was a pillow there. I ended up putting a pillow in 264 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,560 the back of his head so he wouldn't hit me with the back of 265 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,800 his head. And I reached around with my 266 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,400 hand and held his nose in his mouth. 267 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,920 And he kept rolling and kicking and rolling and kicking. 268 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 And then it eventually stopped. Where was Megan at? 269 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,920 Megan left midway through there and went back to the room. 270 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,640 How long would you say it took to kill Alec? 271 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,720 That one I have no idea. It did. 272 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,760 It went quickly, but I don't know. 273 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,880 And there was blood and everything in his bed. 274 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:07,440 On his bed, yes. Where did you stop? 275 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Where did you stab him in? The stomach, the same spot. 276 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:19,200 Now after he kills his his son, he goes downstairs to kill his 277 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,840 second son. Who's the 11 year old? 278 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,200 Listen to this. Time, but OK, so Alec is gone. 279 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,960 What? What happens after that? 280 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,160 I walk into the room, maybe I control ourselves and she turned 281 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,120 to me. She goes, we have to finish 282 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:35,040 this. There's one more left. 283 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:40,480 So before the sunlight comes up. And so she says I'm going to go 284 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,440 downstairs. I'm going to stand because the 285 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:49,200 way the downstairs is, the way the downstairs is, I don't know 286 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,040 if you sell the house once you got it. 287 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,720 My Tyler is the strongest kid and my Tyler is the quickest 288 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,560 kid. And if he got out of the room by 289 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:04,960 chance, you know it would, it wouldn't help the situation. 290 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,440 Why not? Because we wouldn't, we wouldn't 291 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 be able to catch him, hence we wouldn't be able to all go 292 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,760 together. Was there fear like maybe he 293 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,880 would? Get away. 294 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,480 Like outside of the home, like alert. 295 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,320 Neighbors or something? Yeah, OK. 296 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,000 So it was almost like a quick, I don't want to say like an 297 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,800 attack, but it was a quicker movements with him. 298 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,080 Yes, the same take the same thing. 299 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,400 Megan stood outside the door just in case. 300 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,200 So she the door couldn't open and I got him and she was laying 301 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:52,240 on his. He's laying parallel, he's 302 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,120 laying on his left side and I was able to get in and get the 303 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:00,120 knife right in there. They got it, they got it. 304 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:03,680 It started bleeding quite a bit, but then being strong, he kept 305 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,720 moving, moving. So then again, I had to get like 306 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,280 put a pillow on top and my hand and he went really, really, 307 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,640 really quick. So a lot of blood. 308 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,960 I didn't see much blood because I had it covered up. 309 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Like how much blood came out. I could feel the blood coming 310 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,200 out, so it was all over my hand. But it was it was bloodiness. 311 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,640 Now after that, he says that he killed the family dog because 312 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,480 Megan wanted the dog to die with them all. 313 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,520 Right. So Tyler is killed. 314 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,600 Who's in the room when he's killed? 315 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,440 It's just me and Tyler. Megan is outside in the door. 316 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,040 What is she saying during any of this? 317 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:52,640 She's doing meditations. Was she drinking or consuming 318 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,840 anything that would? Maybe. 319 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,600 Not at that point. Break. 320 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,440 Her down because it's just a lot for a parent to go through. 321 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Yeah, I mean, it's a lot for a human being to go through. 322 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:06,200 Let alone a parent. OK, But we had salvation in 323 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,520 mind. We had the greatest and that's 324 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,400 we love our kids and it's sad. I no, I got you. 325 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,240 I understand. OK, so now all the children are 326 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,360 gone. How long until the sun comes up? 327 00:23:32,530 --> 00:23:34,490 I don't know. It might be about 5:00 in the 328 00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:38,530 morning right that time. Was the sun coming up like part 329 00:23:38,530 --> 00:23:41,050 of a rule or anything like that? Because I, you mentioned it a 330 00:23:41,050 --> 00:23:42,930 couple times that Megan told you that they have. 331 00:23:42,930 --> 00:23:44,490 You have to do this before the sun comes up. 332 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,400 Is there? Is there a reasoning behind 333 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,200 that? I don't know. 334 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,480 I don't know why the reasoning was behind that, but it had to 335 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,840 be done before the sun came up, yes. 336 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,040 OK. So it's nothing during your your 337 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,680 research or investigations or anything like that that has. 338 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,400 Nothing per mind. I don't know. 339 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,280 It was on her side. Research or whatnot. 340 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,240 I was just told to be done before the sun came up. 341 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,560 OK. All right. 342 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,520 So they're all deceased. What do you guys do? 343 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,120 Go up to the bedroom, just started talking. 344 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:16,000 How do we want to, you know, the kids are dead. 345 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,440 What do we want to do now? What's going on? 346 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,880 What's her next step? What are we going to do? 347 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,640 You mean this wasn't planned? It was planned because it's like 348 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,400 just a dog. Did she want to go first? 349 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:32,120 You know, because there was some discussion of her, me going 350 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,960 first and her staying, staying last, Her her going first. 351 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,800 She wasn't sure which one she wanted to do. 352 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,960 So we decided that the there's a dog, we went to the dog with us. 353 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,560 So she held the backside of the dog down and like put the, I 354 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,120 call them Mexican blankets. They're like these legs around. 355 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,120 And then I was able to hold the knot and the her stout and her 356 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:07,600 nose clothes and she went peacefully picked her up, put 357 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,520 her in her bed. And then like it was like, I 358 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,800 want to go next. I want to be done. 359 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,840 And then? So you just suffocated the dog. 360 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,840 So if there was any type of marks or anything like that on 361 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,160 the dog, you wouldn't know anything about it. 362 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:28,080 What kind of marks on the dog and that I just suffocated the 363 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,360 dog. You can stab the dog. 364 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,120 And stab the. Dog stab wound on the dog. 365 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760 That's interesting because I don't I I didn't stab the dog. 366 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,480 There was a stab wound on the dog. 367 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,200 The dog was collected as well. I I. 368 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Doubt it's neither here nor there. 369 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,360 I'm just telling that there's some that was. 370 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,160 That's one of the discrepancies that I've noticed in the 371 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240 statements. OK, all right. 372 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,720 So you kill the dog then you say you like, put it in its bed or 373 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,280 something like that. What are the place in that? 374 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,400 The bed we wrapped it and the the blanket would not put it 375 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,280 underneath the bedside table and then in her bed. 376 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240 In her bed or OK? What was her name? 377 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,800 Breezy. Breezy OK, Did you immediate? 378 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,400 I'm sorry, where did you kill the dog at? 379 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,680 It was on the foot of the bed on Megan's side. 380 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,640 In the master. Room. 381 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,760 That's great. And that was the final resting 382 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,880 spot was in the master bedroom. Correct, correct. 383 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,240 And then he comes now after he kills the dog and the kids, he's 384 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,920 saying that he stabbed them trying to get them to bleed to 385 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,240 death, but in reality, he stabbed them after they had 386 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,400 already died. And when we talk about the dog 387 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,880 killing, he doesn't remember stabbing the dog at all. 388 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,760 He says that the dog died peacefully as he suffocated the 389 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,920 dog and that Megan helped him. Now, according to the autopsy, 390 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:03,520 the dog was stabbed 11 times. There's a part of his confession 391 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,920 that he says, and he clearly, you can hear him trying to 392 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,720 figure out why he did, why that happened. 393 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,760 He was like adamant that he didn't stab the dog. 394 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,960 He talks about stabbing the kids, but he doesn't talk about 395 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,000 stabbing the dog. It doesn't make sense. 396 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,200 I mean, he already did the worst to the kids, but he's not going 397 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:32,560 to say that he stabbed the dog. He says he doesn't remember, so 398 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,760 let me continue on she. Started taking that a little 399 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,360 bit. Gave her the knife and I laid 400 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:44,600 next to her and she put the knife into her stomach and I 401 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,600 said, did you hit the spot? It's right here. 402 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,640 Yeah, I feel it. I'm laying there, Laying there 403 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,360 for 45 minutes. It's supposed to take about 404 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,480 about 10 minutes, whatever it says. 405 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,560 If. If you hit the spot. 406 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,720 And what is in that spot? What are you talking? 407 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,680 About the inferior vena cava, OK on the umbilicus, you're 408 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,800 supposed to be able to bleed out. 409 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,280 They say it 1 to 4 minutes wasn't but under 10 minutes. 410 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,280 And what are you specifically targeting within that area? 411 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,360 The inferior vena cava. OK, it's, it's a big. 412 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,200 Blood return. OK. 413 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,840 It's a large vessel and you bleed out in the abdomen. 414 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,840 It's just quick. We were laying there for about 415 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,040 45 minutes after she stabbed herself. 416 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,680 This isn't. I feel nothing happening. 417 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,160 Nothing happening. It's OK, this is good. 418 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,360 What do you want to do? You know, she said, do we have 419 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,560 any Benadryl? I said we have a liquid 420 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,040 Benadryl. She goes, let me have that, let 421 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,520 me try some of that. Maybe that'll put me to sleep or 422 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,880 let me go sooner. So she was drinking liquid 423 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,000 Benadryl, Benadryl, Benadryl. And I was checking back on her, 424 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,400 give her some peace, walked around, came back, walked 425 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280 around, came back, and at one point I thought she had passed 426 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,720 from on the Benadryl. She was still there, and she had 427 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,600 sat up. What makes you think she passed? 428 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,440 She was very quiet. There was no motion. 429 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,600 I couldn't see her abdomen go up and down. 430 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,520 This is from afar, without even me going up to see her and with 431 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,520 her eyes open. Eyes are closed. 432 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,520 She communicating with you. I thought when I came up and I 433 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,920 was like Meg, she was like, I'm here. 434 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,360 And I said OK, and that wasn't happening. 435 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,200 So she decided to do filter her liver. 436 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,440 OK, We looked at pulled up to the thing and the paddock liver, 437 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,480 we laid it out on where where it was on her skin according to the 438 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,880 landmarks and say it's right in this area. 439 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,640 So OK. Then she with two hands pushed 440 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,320 in and you heard like a little click as if it went through 441 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,440 something. OK. 442 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,840 So I was like, OK, sounds like it went through the liver. 443 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,880 That's good. OK, She pulled it out. 444 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,680 She put the knife right next to her and just laid with her and 445 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,320 laid there and held her and we just waited. 446 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,040 It seemed like hours went by and nothing else happening. 447 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,720 I had I got up, I wanted to check on our our boys and our 448 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,400 little 1 and make sure everything was going OK in the 449 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,960 house. Everything was OK. 450 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Came back and she's sitting up at the edge of the bed and she's 451 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,320 sitting in the womb and I'm like, and she's like, this has 452 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,560 got to be done. This isn't too long. 453 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,680 This is ridiculous. I'm like, shall we go on look at 454 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,000 different other aspects to do this. 455 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,240 How do you want to do this? She goes, I want this ended Now. 456 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,000 What does that mean? She was, I want, I want you to 457 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520 take the pillowcase, put a put a pillow and put it over my head. 458 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,200 I don't know if I can do that. And she looked at me. 459 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,320 She goes, if you love me, you can do this. 460 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,240 I want to be with my babies. And so, yeah, you know, it's and 461 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,440 she's so for me, she's you're strong enough and you can do it. 462 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,480 OK, So I said, why don't you take some more Benadryl? 463 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,920 So at least you're not going to fight me and I'll do it. 464 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,080 So she goes, she took some more Benadryl, and maybe about 15 465 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840 minutes later, I came back in the room and I said, you still 466 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,760 want to do this? And she talked to me like that. 467 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:12,280 Very far out, Yeah. After he kills all three kids 468 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:18,600 and after he kills the dog and his wife, he tries to kill 469 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,680 himself 8 different times and he cannot do it. 470 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,400 Now while he's and and I forgot this let me go back for a 471 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,040 second. While he's killing the kids, his 472 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,320 wife is saying that they need to hurry up and they need to kill 473 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,920 the kids before sunlight. Now this was. 474 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,960 This struck me kind of weird too because he and his wife bought 475 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,280 toys for Christmas for the kids. Why would you do that if you 476 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,920 knew you were going to kill the kids before Christmas? 477 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,640 And he says he killed the kids before Christmas. 478 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:07,880 So was there a higher power telling them that they needed to 479 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,600 kill the kids at a certain time because they didn't really know 480 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,000 when they were going to do it, they just knew they were going 481 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440 to do it. And then all of a sudden Megan 482 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680 starts saying that they had to do it before sunlight by that. 483 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,960 Time. Was the sun coming up like part 484 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,520 of a rule or anything like that, 'cause I, you mentioned it a 485 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,760 couple times that Megan told you that they have, you have to do 486 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920 this before the sun comes up. Is there? 487 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,040 Is there a reasoning behind that? 488 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,840 I don't know. I don't know why the reasoning 489 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080 was behind that, but it had to be done before the sun came up. 490 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,480 Yes, OK. So it's nothing during your your 491 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160 research or investigations or anything like that that has. 492 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,440 Nothing per mind, I don't know, it was on her side, research or 493 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,880 whatnot. I was just told to be done 494 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,120 before the sun came up. OK. 495 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,280 Now she also came out and said, according to Tony, that it was 496 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:58,680 going to help them spiritually go to heaven and be safe. 497 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:07,600 He actually thinks that this is a spiritual journey and not a 498 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,080 sacrifice. He even says a sacrifice. 499 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,880 He goes. This was not a sacrifice. 500 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,560 How we how we let up to where we're at right now. 501 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,680 OK, OK. OK. 502 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,000 For a while, my wife has started. 503 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,760 I should be watching these videos, talking about the 504 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,000 afterlife, talking about somebody should talk about how 505 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,920 families really slow. Slow down a little bit. 506 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,600 Right now I'm just having a hard time keeping up with you. 507 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,560 I'm sorry. That's OK. 508 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,320 Let's speak up. And, and watching these videos 509 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,400 and watching everything going on, she presented them to me and 510 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,920 I started watching them with kind of uneasy like, yeah, 511 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,480 whatever. And the more and more we 512 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,160 watched, the more and more I gained an understanding that 513 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,880 there is more than this life here and a higher and a higher 514 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,080 global consciousness. And then we started researching 515 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,320 and researching and researching. And then we started finding more 516 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,320 about the world is coming to the end, the apocalyptic end, and 517 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,320 that a family is going to be separated and and enslaved and 518 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,239 to better to avoid this to all go together, OK. 519 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,400 You mean tie together? Tie together, that's correct. 520 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,080 OK, OK, so because my wife's been chronically I'll for a 521 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,520 while, this really appealed to her. 522 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,520 And because it appealed to me, also because she wouldn't be in 523 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,320 any pain. Family wouldn't be separated. 524 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120 The, you know, with sorrow. No more heartbreaking, no more 525 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,800 anything to be salvation and everlasting life. 526 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,120 So we kept doing a research, kept doing a research, kept 527 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,720 doing a research, a reading of things, meditating and decided 528 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,760 that, yeah, this should be a thing. 529 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,640 This should be what we should do. 530 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,480 We had sat down and talked with the boys and Joey just on 531 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,080 different things about, you know, death and the way the you 532 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,720 know what would happen if mommy died. 533 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,120 You know, how would you feel? What happened when daddy died? 534 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,760 What do you feel? And the consistent responses was 535 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,480 like, we don't want you to die. We want to die with you. 536 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,840 So when the FBI finally locate him, we're talking about he did 537 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,600 all this before January. According to him, he had already 538 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,640 killed his kids between the 14th or the 18th of December. 539 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,520 By January 13th, the FBI was already on him. 540 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,080 And this was because of the fraud, the insurance fraud. 541 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,200 By the time the police went into the house, this was already 542 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:57,440 January the 13th and everybody was dead except for Tony. 543 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,440 When they go into the house, they asked Tony where his 544 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,480 family's at. He says that his wife is 545 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,720 upstairs, she's sleeping. He says that the kids probably 546 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,640 went to a friend's to sleep over, but he doesn't remember 547 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,960 when the when the FBI goes in and they see the dead bodies. 548 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,720 Of course they arrest him and they take him in and all of a 549 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:31,520 sudden he starts saying that he saw his wife Megan talking to 550 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,920 the police, the FBI. I'm going to play that for you. 551 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,960 I don't. Remember. 552 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,520 OK, I don't know why I was sitting on the front porch. 553 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,720 Yeah, I guess you were seen out on the front porch and then they 554 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,400 wouldn't make contact with you inside or something. 555 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,600 And then I also remember seeing Megan out there talking to you 556 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,720 guys, which wasn't true. No. 557 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,840 No, I know, but I'm just telling you what you know. 558 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200 It's like so I don't, that's why I mean I. 559 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,520 Don't. But now that it's been a couple 560 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,640 days, you've probably got a better recollection of what's 561 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,920 what transpired that morning. I don't have too much of A 562 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,240 recollection that morning, honestly. 563 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,440 Well, I mean, looking back, I mean, I can tell you now. 564 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,080 She's she's deceased. So she so we know she wasn't 565 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,800 talking. Correct. 566 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,560 Yeah, So you. Do you remember what when they 567 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,920 come in the house, do you remember what you told them? 568 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,920 No. OK all. 569 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,120 Right, I I that's I know all. Right. 570 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:25,240 So here's my question. Was this a mental breakdown 571 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:31,320 because people were coming after him to arrest him for fraud? 572 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,240 Now, he knew about the fraud, and he said that Megan knew 573 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,240 about the fraud and he moved when he was going back and forth 574 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,560 to Florida. He wasn't trying to hide. 575 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,600 He had actually told the FBI when they came into his office 576 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,840 in Connecticut. And I forgot to tell you this, 577 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,640 but when they went into the office around Thanksgiving time, 578 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,760 he knew they were there doing an investigation. 579 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,280 He didn't run. He didn't hide. 580 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,560 He told them exactly where he was at. 581 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,280 He told them that he was going to come back. 582 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,160 He was very cooperative. His employees were very 583 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,360 cooperative. Nobody knew this was going to 584 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,360 happen and from some parts even Tony didn't know this was going 585 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,600 to happen now after these crimes were committed. 586 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,280 And he says that he doesn't remember anything from the time 587 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:35,280 that Christmas came around before Christmas to the time 588 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,280 that he was arrested. I don't remember anything pretty 589 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,280 much over Christmas and the first week I got here. 590 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,280 This was what Anthony Taught told a relative in February, 591 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,280 just weeks after police charged him with the killing of his 592 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,120 wife, three children and a dog in Celebration, Florida. 593 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,440 Investigators say he had been living with their decomposed 594 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640 bodies in the home for several weeks. 595 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960 The Colchester physical therapist sounding confused on 596 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,520 the phone call, saying all he remembers is waking up at the 597 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,080 hospital. He then asked his relative if 598 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,120 she has spoken to his attorney yet. 599 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,880 She wouldn't tell me anything because I feel like I've had to. 600 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,080 It's it's really hard on this side, trying to just see if 601 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:20,920 you're OK. I don't even. 602 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,360 Know what is going. On keep in mind guys he was 603 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,320 living with the family as they were dead and he was sleeping in 604 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,800 their bed. Think about this. 605 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:38,080 For almost 3-4 weeks he didn't try to run, he didn't try to 606 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,720 hide, he didn't change his name. He was living with the dead 607 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:54,880 bodies of his wife and kids and he wasn't denying killing them 608 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,120 in his interview. So why when they arrest him 609 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,120 after he gives them all these confirmations of what he did, 610 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,480 how he did it? You've heard, you heard the 611 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,440 police interrogation. Why all of a sudden did he say, 612 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:20,400 I don't remember anything? Could his interrogation have 613 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:27,000 been his demon talking? Which was kind of weird to me 614 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,680 because I was trying to find a different tone of voice that 615 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,000 Tony would have. The only thing that I could 616 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:40,320 really find is when Tony was talking, he was breathing heavy. 617 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,640 When he was talking to his sister on the phone, when he was 618 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,160 talking to the police, he was not breathing heavy. 619 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:54,640 Now, let me tell you this too. When Tony started changing that, 620 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,600 everybody kept saying that he was changing. 621 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:03,960 In 2017, Tony started gaining a lot of weight, so much weight 622 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,360 that you couldn't even recognize him. 623 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,840 After he was arrested and after he was in prison for a little 624 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,360 bit, he lost that weight and he got back to his normal self. 625 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:26,160 According to his sister. Could this demon have been 626 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:33,600 changing them little by little? Or was Megan the one that was 627 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,160 listening to this demon and he was just following her up until 628 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,640 he killed her or she killed herself and this demon jumped 629 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,480 inside of him? As far as the supernatural was 630 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,560 that he kept saying that during these killings Megan was 631 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,480 meditating. Why would she be meditating 632 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,880 while her husband is killing her kids and why would he be killing 633 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,480 the kids if he was in his right frame of mind? 634 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,360 Was this demon influence? Was this demon possession? 635 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,600 I'm not sure, to be honest with you. 636 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080 This is, like I said, the same thing that happened with Michael 637 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,160 Miller. It's kind of similar to that. 638 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:27,000 You're talking about a guy that had no history of violence, no 639 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,240 criminal records. He even says that he still loves 640 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,040 Megan and he loves the kids and he misses the kids and he wants 641 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:43,840 to die to be with them. What can cause a person to do 642 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,200 that? He says he tried to kill himself 643 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,200 8 different times but it failed. Was that the demon trying? 644 00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:02,120 Was that himself trying? To be honest? 645 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:09,320 For me, I think these religions that she was listening to on 646 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:16,880 Skype are very dangerous and they lead to false prophets and 647 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,160 they lead to false gods. And that's where the demons come 648 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:28,000 in and try to manipulate to the point where you think, or the 649 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,960 parents think that the best way to save themselves and their 650 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:42,720 children is to kill everybody. These demons like to lie and 651 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,200 manipulate and put things in people's heads that they think 652 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:55,080 is real and it's not. And when you're looking and 653 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,480 you're focused on one thing, like the end of the world, 654 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,480 that's when you give in. And we all know that yes, COVID 655 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,800 happened, but it wasn't the end of the world. 656 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,440 We keep moving on. Thanks for listening guys, have 657 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,840 a good one. I'll talk to y'all next week. 658 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,920 Don't forget to subscribe to the Demon Inside podcast on any 659 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,720 podcast platform. 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