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Hello, my demon insiders, and 
welcome back to The Demon 

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I'm your host, John Venom, and 

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today we are going to be talking
about the Demon Inside James 

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Holmes. 
Now before I begin, I just 

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wanted to say that James Holmes 
actually wrote a journal and in 

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that journal, I could probably 
diagnose that journal for a 

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whole season of shows. 
I mean, it is something that got

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me going down the rabbit hole, 
and the way it was described 

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from a psychologist basically 
meant that James believed that 

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if he would kill someone, he 
would gain their strength, power

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and things like that. 
They're in their source, their 

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entity. 
Now, the way I described it is 

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it's the demon inside of him 
that's trying to figure himself 

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out, and not just himself, but 
other demons as well. 

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And I know for you true crime 
people, you all don't want to 

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hear this, but let me just get 
past this and then I'll start 

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with the true crime stuff. 
So I believe this demon being 

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inside of James Holmes had never
seen this side of humanity, 

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which was intelligence. 
Usually these demons get into 

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people that are not exemplary. 
I mean, they're smart, sure, and

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they're, they're fascinating 
people, whatever. 

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But, and I'm not trying to talk 
down on anybody, but James 

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Holmes was actually a 
neuroscience scientist. 

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He was that's what his PhD was 
in. 

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He hadn't graduated yet, but he 
was a very intellectual person 

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who was trying to figure out 
what was going on in his own 

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mind. 
So with that, let me start off 

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with a little bit of his 
history. 

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James Holmes was born in 
December 13, 1987 in San Diego, 

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CA and he was raided raised in 
Oak Hills which is a community 

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in Monterey County near 
Castroville, CA where he 

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attended elementary school. 
Now he got friends and he had 

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like a group of friends that he 
he really enjoyed spending time 

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with. 
But then his father actually got

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a job and had to move. 
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James started going to a 
different high school and 

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before. 
OK, so let me let me get to this

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first though. 
According to James, during his 

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childhood, this was like his 
whole childhood, and he was 

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frightened of what he called 
nail ghosts that would hammer, 

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that would hammer, listen to 
this nail ghost that would 

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hammer on the walls at night. 
James saw social worker Margaret

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Roth once before she sent him to
the psychiatrist Lynn Fenton. 

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And James was depressed and 
obsessed with killing for over a

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decade. 
So James had this in his mind 

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from the time that he was pretty
much 11. 

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So he went to Westview High 
School and graduated in 2006. 

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Very smart guy. 
He played soccer, ran cross 

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country, basically your typical 
young man. 

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When he when they moved when he 
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school, he was very withdrawn. 
He was very to himself. 

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He didn't make friends like he 
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So despite these issues, he 
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2006, and he worked as an intern
at the Salk Institute for 

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Biological Studies. 
Now remember, this guy is super 

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smart. 
This is where he was assigned to

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write computer code for an 
experiment. 

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So James wrote of his first 
experience at the Salk Institute

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in a college application essay. 
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in computer programming and the 
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least. 
None the less, I taught myself 

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how to program in flash and then
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calibration model. 
Completing the project and 

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presenting my motto at the end 
of the internship and was 

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exhilarating. 
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This was him as a senior in high
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internship and then he started 
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California on Riverside in the 
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He worked as a counselor as A at
the a residential summer camp in

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Glendale, CA, where he actually 
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And he was responsible for the 
for 10 children and he was great

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at it. 
This guy has no history of 

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anything that his parents were 
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sister was great. 
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better family. 
So in 2010, he received his 

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undergraduate bachelor's degree 
in neuroscience with highest 

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honors. 
He was a member of several honor

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societies, including by Beta 
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He also graduated in the top 1% 
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That is impressive and he 
completed a bachelor's degree at

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the University of California, 
Riverside. 

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So in and that's that happened 
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So he decided to pursue a 
graduate degree in neuroscience 

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at the University of Colorado 
and move to Aurora. 

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And this is something that I got
out of his notebook. 

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He started taking the 
neuroscience classes and 

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everything to self diagnose what
was wrong with him because he 

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knew there wasn't something, 
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And This is why this case is so 
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looking at his mental status 
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And it's very interesting to me.
And I'll explain a little bit 

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more about that and, and why 
it's so interesting. 

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Holmes identified himself as an 
agnostic. 

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I don't know if you know what 
agnostic is, I really didn't. 

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But agnosticism is the view of 
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God, the divine or the 
supernatural, is either 

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unknowable in principle or 
unknown in fact. 

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It can also mean an apathy 
towards such religious beliefs 

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and refer to personal 
limitations rather than a 

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worldview. 
So this definition is pretty 

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much saying that human reason is
incapable of providing 

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sufficient rational grounds to 
justify either the belief that 

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God exists or the belief that 
God does not exist. 

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So in 2011, he enrolled in a PhD
program for his neuroscience. 

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He, this guy was actually going 
for his PhD. 

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And according to an agency, the 
National Institutes of Health, 

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it diversed installments for a 
grant that he actually received.

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It was like a $22,000 grant or 
something like that. 

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And he was going to get that 
plus free tuition. 

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He ended up declining it. 
And he really didn't specify why

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he did that. 
And this was in 2011, when he 

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began Graduate School. 
He says that he started seeing 

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shadows and flickers at the 
corners of his eye. 

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Now, in 2012, his academic 
performance started to decline. 

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He did very badly on his 
comprehensive exam, and he was 

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pretty much failing out of 
school by this time. 

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So on July 20th of 2012 was when
this incident happened, and I'm 

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going to describe it. 
Holmes was identified by police 

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as a suspect in the Colorado 
shooting that killed 12 

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individuals and wounded 70. 
The incident took place at a 

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movie theater in Aurora, Co, a 
suburb not far from Denver, 

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where theater patrons were 
watching the newly released 

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Batman series film The Dark 
Knight Rises. 

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Police identified 24 year old 
James Holmes as the suspect and 

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arrested him shortly after the 
incident. 

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Now, according to media reports,
police officers who responded to

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the scene found Holmes near the 
theater wearing a gas mask and 

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body armor. 
Holmes's hair had been dyed red,

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resembling OK. 
You know, they, they say it 

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resembled the Joker from Batman.
I don't think he did it for the 

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reasons that people think he did
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Holmes had allegedly begun 
planning the movie theater 

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shooting approximately 4 months 
before the incident and that is 

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also on his notebook. 
So I know I've been talking 

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about this notebook, so let's 
get into that. 

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So in a brown spiral notebook 
titled and it has his name where

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it's his name, it says James 
Holmes. 

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And then it says about and he 
puts of life in this he asks the

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questions of what is the meaning
of life and what is the meaning 

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of death? 
And then the first page it says 

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insights into the mind of 
madness. 

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What is equal? 
Equal to all men are created 

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equal regardless value of 
murderer does not equal to the 

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dead equal is not one murderer. 
Values may be equal to dead, 

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equal my prices. 
So OK, it sounds really weird, 

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but what he's doing is he's 
taking a formula and trying to 

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figure out about the people, the
murder, how people die, the 

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deaths. 
And the way I started looking at

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it, because I started looking at
it from his point of view. 

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And that's why I kind of like 
was interested in it so much 

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because his point of view, 
according to the psychologist 

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was what I had told you. 
He kills a person, he gains 

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strength, he kills another 
person, he gains more strength. 

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He would envelope their essence 
in a way. 

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Now for me reading this, because
some of it didn't make sense. 

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And I know everything in this 
notebook to James has to make 

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sense. 
It has to be a reason because 

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you don't write a manifesto and 
be like, Oh yeah, you could skip

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that. 
Or you could, you know, skip 

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this part. 
Everything in this thing, 

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everything in this notebook is 
there for a reason. 

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And I wanted it to, I wanted to 
figure it out. 

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So when he starts talking about 
these equals and and that 

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Infinity equals a person. 
And the way I saw it, if you 

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look at it from a demon's point 
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James's Holmes. 
And inside of him is this demon 

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that wants to figure out us 
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I mean, think about this. 
Demons have been here for 

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centuries, eons, whatever. 
They know human behavior. 

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They know how to manipulate us. 
They know how to turn us. 

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They know how to change us. 
Whatever thing is, I don't think

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anybody has ever thought that 
demons could learn more by a 

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possession of somebody like 
James Holmes. 

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James Holmes was trying to 
figure out his own mind and and 

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I think this demon was learning 
more about himself. 

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So there's pictures of a little 
stick figure and there's five 

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more stick figures and five 
more. 

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So there's 10 stick figures and 
one of him and then underneath 

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that is like circles which 
identifies as murder and then 

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underneath that is dead bodies, 
ten of them, and then underneath

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that the Infinity sign. 
So a demon was comparing himself

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and saying that he is equal to 
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murder happens, they're equal to
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And those souls are the Infinity
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For me. 
That's what that means because 

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he starts talking after all the 
little symbols and everything. 

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He starts talking about can a 
person have both no value and be

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ultimately good and or 
ultimately evil. 

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And this is a question that he's
asking. 

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He says, why does the value of a
person even matter? 

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I was looking up through souls 
and there's a guy that did a 

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column and he talks about the 
power of a soul. 

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And for me, maybe these demons 
are collecting souls because it 

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gives them more power, it gives 
them a strength. 

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This guy wrote this and and I 
quote. 

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Yet a word of caution. 
While the couch sounds sweet, 

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there is a lot of practice, 
discipline and courage needed in

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order to master the art of soul 
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You could almost say that in 
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power, you have to become 
someone else, your higher self, 

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your higher self. 
And remember we did a show on 

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Milam, on Garland, Ray Milam, 
who was called the Soul Eater. 

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And he says that when he killed 
face to face and strangled these

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people and they died, their soul
went through him and it was 

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something that he had never 
expected and was better than any

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kind of drug. 
So now we talk about his hatred 

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for mankind because he says it 
different times in his journal 

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that he has a hatred for 
mankind. 

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And so this is one of those 
reasons that I see that it could

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be a demon in him. 
Now, we've heard that before, a 

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hatred for mankind. 
And one of those episodes was 

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actually Tyree Lincoln Smith. 
And Tyree Ate the man's brains 

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and eyeballs, and he said that 
he had a hatred for mankind as 

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well. 
And by eating these specific 

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things, he could see into the 
mind of the human that he was 

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trying to learn about humankind.
We know the demons are very 

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smart. 
They've been with us since the 

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beginning of time. 
They know everything about us. 

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They know how to manipulate us. 
They know how to lie to us. 

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They know how to cheat. 
They know how to get us to kill 

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each other. 
The thing is, is it from all of 

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my time that I've been doing 
this podcast and and even 

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before, I have never known one 
to jump into someone like James 

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Holmes. 
Now, James Holmes, like I said, 

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was an exemplary student, 
graduated at the highest in his 

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class for his bachelor's degree.
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neuropsychology or 
neuroscientist, and he analyzes 

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everything. 
He also sees black shadows 

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fighting on the side of his 
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He sees these shadows as dark 
shadows and he says that for a 

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short time there they were gone 
and then they would appear in 

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front of him and he didn't know 
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Same with back in the day when 
he was a child and he saw those 

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nail ghosts. 
NAIL ghosts because he says that

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they were hammering and he can 
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walls. 
For me, that's demons. 

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Then we get into his planning 
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planned it in advance. 
He planned for there to be fear,

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panic. 
He planned for there to be just 

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all these different emotions 
that are going to come out of 

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this act. 
So when I started looking 

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through this case file and I 
started realizing something 

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because I'm not going to go by 
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because sometimes after the fact
the demon is gone and they don't

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know what he's talking about. 
He doesn't even know sometimes. 

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And for instance, in his journal
he talks about. 

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A lot of his journal, except for
portions of it where he cannot 

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remember why. 
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you listen to the interviews, 
the psychologist is always going

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to try to bring it back to are 
you able to distinguish good 

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from bad? 
Are you able to attend court? 

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It's not about what are you 
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Who are you? 
It's not about why do you want 

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to know certain things, Why do 
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Why do you want to know about 
death? 

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I believe this demon was trying 
to learn about humankind through

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James Holmes. 
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it, the two demons are two 
deities that I found in Greek 

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mythology. 
Demas and Phobus were twin gods 

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of fear and terror. 
Demas served to represent the 

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feelings of dread and terror 
that befell those before a 

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battle, while Phobus personified
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the midst of battle. 
Basically, James Holmes was 

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Demas who was the dread and 
terror. 

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Now in the description, Dimas 
had these red eyes, like fiery 

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red eyes. 
In real life James Holmes, his 

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eyes were bulging out of his 
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If you listen to an interview by
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those were not his eyes. 
His eyes came back into the 

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sockets, believe it or not, 
later on. 

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And the psychologists of course,
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schizophrenia or any of this 
stuff. 

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Thing is, I've never seen 
people's eyes bulge like that 

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just because of a sickness or a 
mental disorder. 

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She says also that it wasn't 
him, and we've heard that so 

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many times before. 
And this afternoon, the most 

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emotional testimony yet. 
Cardio News Channel 13's Rana 

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Navini is following the trial. 
And Rana, This is the first time

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we've heard from one of Holmes 
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Right. 
His sister took the stand today 

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in his defense. 
She's testifying in hopes the 

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jury will spare her brother's 
life. 

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We used to be very, very close 
and that I love him a lot. 

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Sitting just feet away from her 
brother, Chris Holmes describes 

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a very different person than the
killer jurors convicted of 

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murdering 12 people in an Aurora
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She just always was looking out 
for my mom and wanted to make 

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sure that my mom was OK and 
taken care of. 

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Chris describes a normal 
childhood filled with family 

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vacations and a close 
relationship with her brother 

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Did. 
You ever think growing up that 

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he was mentally ill? 
No, but I didn't know anything 

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about mental illness. 
Her testimony comes on the heels

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of a new survey showing the 
majority of Coloradans support 

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the death penalty for Holmes. 
63% say they want a death 

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sentence, but public support 
doesn't mean anything in the 

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courtroom. 
All 12 jurors have to agree or 

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Holmes gets life in prison. 
Defense attorneys hope Holmes 

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mental illness will save his 
life, even though jurors found 

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he was legally sane at the time 
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Even psychiatrists who testified
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suffers from schizophrenia. 
His eyes seemed a lot different,

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they were almost bulging out of 
his head. 

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Chris Holmes says she noticed a 
change in her brother when she 

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visited him in prison last year.
Coming. 

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Down and feed her night coming. 
Down. 

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And despite the horrors he 
caused, she still loves him. 

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Do you? 
Think he loved you? 

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I think he loved me very much. 
You think he still loves you? 

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I think so. 
What I believe is that these two

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deities were in that movie 
theater in creating all this 

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havoc. 
Now, it doesn't excuse James 

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Holmes from doing what he did. 
That's what he did. 

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But when there is tragedy and 
violence and a war like 

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situation, these two deities are
going to be there. 

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And they knew he was going to be
there because he had planned it 

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for two weeks in advance, maybe 
even longer. 

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Everything in that notebook, to 
me is a demon trying to figure 

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out itself through the eyes of 
the human being who is a 

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neuroscientist or is going to be
a neuroscientist. 

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The only problem was that he had
to do it fast because he didn't 

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want to be ejected. 
Maybe this guy, James Holmes, 

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was on to something and the 
demon didn't like it because now

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what can he do? 
He's in prison. 

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He can't do any more 
experiments. 

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He can't do any more research. 
This demon that was in him 

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created this havoc. 
James Holmes never had any type 

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of sickness. 
Now, let me tell you this. 

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He did go to a psychologist when
he was 11. 

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They said that he tried to 
commit suicide. 

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Now, I couldn't find anything in
the records about that. 

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What I did find was that his 
family did take the family, all 

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of them, the mom, the dad, the 
sister and the brother took all 

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of them to a counselor because 
they were having a hard time 

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adjusting to the move when they 
moved when he was 11 or 12. 

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Now of course the news media 
wants to focus on and and skew 

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the the news a little bit, but 
you don't have to because it 

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makes it even more factual that 
he had no type of psychological 

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problems. 
And then he goes and creates all

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this death and destruction and 
for what? 

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So that he could gain more life?
Why did the demon do it? 

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So that the demon can get more 
souls. 

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There's power in a soul. 
The more power, the more souls 

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that this demon creates that 
gets, the more power the demon 

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gets. 
We as people don't work that 

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way, but demons do. 
Now, we could always go back to 

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the Greek mythology. 
Do you believe that it could be 

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Greek mythology? 
These were two deities, and I'm 

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telling you deities. 
That means they were worshipped.

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At one time, the strongest 
warriors that worship them were 

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the Spartans, because Spartan 
was war. 

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Now if you don't believe in 
deities like they did, how did 

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they come out with this? 
OK, and let me take this a step 

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further. 
Can a spirit or a deity be made 

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through the worship of men, 
women, children, somebody 

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believing in it so much and so 
many people believing in the 

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same thing so much that they 
created a deity out of thin air?

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Is that possible or that they 
create this story of a deity of 

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these two deities, these these 
twin brothers and a demon just 

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walked right into the story and 
picked up where they believe 

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they created. 
I believe that one more because 

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I believe that the demons have 
been around here all the time. 

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And if a person believes in 
something so much and a demon 

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decides to use that against 
them, why not? 

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And if you don't believe me, 
think about this. 

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Remember the two little girls 
that wanted to meet Slender Man 

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and they ended up killing or 
trying to kill their friend 

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because they believed in the 
Slender Man so much that was 

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created on the Internet? 
How do we know that wasn't a 

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demon talking to those little 
girls? 

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Thanks for listening guys, have 
a nice one. 

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