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Hello, my demon insiders, and 
welcome back to The Demon 

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I'm your host, John Venom, and 

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today before I begin my episode,
I would like to take some time 

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to read a comment that I 
received from Jacob Bernard. 

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Now, Jacob Bernard is the uncle 
of Matthew Bernard, and I did a 

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show on him a few episodes back.
Matthew Bernard was a young 

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teenage kid. 
Who killed his? 

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Family and ran off and was naked
and started to try to choke and 

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bite a groundskeeper. 
Well, I relate this back to 

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three other episodes that I had 
covered, which was Austin 

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Haroff, Rudy Eugene and Annison 
Joseph. 

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If you haven't heard any of 
those, I suggest you go back and

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listen to those. 
But Matthew actually heard his 

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nephew's episode and he sent me 
a comment and I'm going to read 

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that now. 
Now keep in mind, he sent me 4 

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answers that I didn't know, that
I wasn't sure. 

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And I said on the podcast, so 
I'll read those to you as well. 

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But this is how he starts. 
And I quote, I'm Matthew's uncle

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and I got to say you're not too 
off from your research. 

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Keep up the journalism number 
one. 

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Papa wasn't around at the time 
Matthew killed Nana and Emily. 

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He was on the road looking for 
Matthew. 

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No one knew where he was. 
It wasn't until Aunt Rachel 

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heard the gunshots and called 
911 did she see Nana on the 

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ground and then she saw Papa and
they went and checked and saw 

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Nana had been shot. 
I feel so bad for him #2 Matthew

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had narcolepsy and capilepsy so 
he couldn't sleep like we could.

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He basically didn't sleep at all
which is why I believe he 

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snapped. 
He saw demons and had constant 

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nightmares about them too, and 
they were always talking to him 

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#3 He's had nine mental 
evaluations now and is somewhat 

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competent to continue with the 
court process and hopefully we 

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finally get everything over 
with. 

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He was also diagnosed with 
schizophrenia and is finally 

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starting to come back to 
reality. 

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It's been a rough five years. 
Number four, he didn't have any 

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drugs in his system nor does he 
truly have an idea what they are

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or even where to get them. 
Matthew grew up surrounded by 

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people who love him. 
Nana wouldn't even let us 

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continue to watch a movie or a 
show if the word stupid or even 

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shut up came up if that tells 
you anything. 

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He was the representation of a 
golden child and never did any 

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harm to others nor did he even 
have outbursts. 

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He was always filled with joy 
and fun to be around. 

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The continuation of his letter 
says. 

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I don't hate Matthew for what 
he's done because I know it 

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wasn't him. 
I believe he was possessed at 

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the time due to all I've seen 
with everything and from someone

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who grew up with him, I can 
confidently say that wasn't 

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Matthew when he did that. 
I've seen him multiple times and

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I've talked to him when I can to
show my support for him. 

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Yeah, a lot of people call me 
crazy for being there for him 

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and seeing him, but I know with 
all my heart that when 

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everything happened, that wasn't
Matthew. 

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Yes, his body physically did the
killings but mentally I know it 

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wasn't him and because of that I
will continue to support Matthew

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anyway I can because I still 
love him and that's what Nana 

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and Emily would have wanted. 
I miss them and hope one day we 

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can put this all behind us. 
I don't wish Matthew death or 

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anything like that, but I'd like
to see him finally be able to 

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stay stationed instead of 
constantly being moved around 

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due to court proceedings. 
It's a lot to wrap anyone's head

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around, but sometimes with 
situations like this you have to

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think outside the box and look 
at the direction of everything 

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to see where the truth really 
lies and most people can't see 

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that. 
End Quote. 

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Jacob, first I'd like to thank 
you for sending this comment and

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it really means a lot to me and 
my show. 

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It shows that there are people 
out there that believe the 

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demons exist, and as hard it is 
as it is to acknowledge that, 

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it's even harder to see when it 
takes effect on a family member.

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I think Jacob, you are a brave 
person, loving, trusting and 

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honest and I think people that 
are calling you crazy you, we 

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don't believe that you're not 
crazy. 

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From all my demon insiders and 
myself, we think you're a 

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special person who loves and 
cherishes his family and we send

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you nothing but good hopes and 
prayers and God's love. 

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Again, I want to thank you for 
being brave and sending this to 

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me and we will give you the 
support you need or want. 

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We're here for you. 
Again, thank you for sending the

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comments. 
I wait to hear from you. 

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If possible, I'd really like to 
know how Matthew and you are 

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doing. 
So with that, we'll continue 

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with the demon Inside. 
Today's episode we are talking 

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about Adolfo de Jesus Costanzo. 
30 miles from his Brownsville 

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home, Mauricio Rodriguez stared 
in disbelief at the Santa Elena 

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ranch at A1 Room Shack filled 
with candles and other reminders

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of the devil worship that ended 
the life of 21 year old Mark 

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Kilroy, one other unnamed U.S. 
citizen and 10 Mexicans. 

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Outside, a scorched cauldron 
still holds the remains of what 

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authorities say is human brain 
matter, animal parts and blood. 

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What happened over? 
Here I never believe it. 

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So far, authorities have 
unearthed 9 shallow graves still

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filled, some of them with human 
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They believe two more young 
victims remain buried here. 

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That Mark Kilroy spent 12 hours 
on the ranch before dying. 

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They wrapped heavy duct tape 
around his his eyes and and 

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forehead and face and his head. 
They assured him that he was not

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going to be harmed, that he was 
not in danger. 

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They Fred him some bread and 
water, we understand. 

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And then one of them ultimately 
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machete and and and hit him 
across the back of the head with

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it. 
Already say that the devil 

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worship and human sacrifice 
practiced here may be a brand of

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voodoo or black magic that comes
from the Caribbean and Cuba. 

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And if the Padrino, our 
godfather, is a Cuban still on 

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the loose. 
We've been led to believe from 

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Mexico City as a residence of 
Mexico City, we've been led to 

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believe that he has a. 
Family in Miami. 

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Florida, we were told that he's 
a Cuban extraction. 

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He's about 40 years of age and 
that he periodically travels to 

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Brownsville. 
From a balcony at federal police

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officers in Matamora, not far 
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authorities paraded 4 suspects 
who admit to cult involvement, 2

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who say they helped abduct Mark 
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On March 14th, as he celebrated 
spring break in Matamora, 1 

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bared his shoulder to reveal 6 
ceremonial marks, one for each 

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person he said he had killed. 
The suspects say that at one 

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point Mark Kilroy almost escaped
his fate at Santa Elena, that he

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got away but was recaptured by 
this group of Satanists who 

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believed that the souls of their
dead would protect their drug 

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smuggling. 
Shelley Koffler, Channel 5 News 

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near Brownsville. 
So Adolfo de Jesus Costanza is a

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serial killer. 
Who? 

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Was born in Miami, but actually 
grew up in certain parts of 

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southern South America. 
So let's get into this. 

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On November 1st, 1962, Adolfo 
was born to a single mother 

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named Dalia. 
Dalia was a widow and a Cuban 

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immigrant. 
When he was six months, she took

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him to a Polaro, which is like a
priest in the Palo Mayambe 

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religion. 
But for those of you which I'm 

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one didn't know what Palo 
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It's a religion that centers on 
the spirits of the dead and 

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often involves dark practices 
such as grave robbing and the 

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use of human and animal remains.
Palo Mayambe is sometimes used 

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to inflict misfortune on enemies
such as insanity, divorce or 

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death. 
Now the religion itself doesn't 

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encourage criminal activity, but
the members can go two ways. 

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They can be Christian, follow 
Mayambe, which is following God,

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doing good, praying to angels 
and Saints. 

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Or they could be unbaptized, 
follow Mayambe, which is 

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basically doing evil, doing 
harm, and worshipping 

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Karyopenbi. 
Now Karyopenbi is like the devil

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in Christianity or in 
Catholicism, and Karyopenbi is 

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also known as the devourer of 
souls. 

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We've heard that before, 
remember? 

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So the palatal looked at Adolfo 
when he was six months and he 

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told his mother, Dalia that 
Adolfo was going to do great 

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things and he offered to become 
his teacher and spiritual 

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advisor and his mother, of 
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So six months later, when he was
one year old, his mother took 

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him to Puerto Rico to broaden 
his knowledge. 

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She got married to a man there, 
and Adolfo was chosen to be an 

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altar boy in the Catholic 
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But his mother was also 
practicing Santeria. 

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Now, Santeria is another 
religion, kind of like 

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Balomayambe only because it 
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So as he was growing up, his 
mother was teaching them how to 

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sacrifice animals for their 
religion. 

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Eventually, Adolfo would accept 
the fact that animal sacrifices 

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were a part of religion. 
We will be right. 

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Back after a word. 
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And now it's time for the shout 
out of the week and today I have

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a couple of shout outs. 
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To Russell. 
And he works at the Max Car 

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rental and he actually, we were 
talking about the podcast and I 

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was telling them about the three
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And. 
With Austin Harroff, Rudy Eugene

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and Anderson Joseph. 
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He suggested that I look into 
the geographical locations of 

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the rivers that flow through 
each and every one of those 

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killings. 
So that's something to think 

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about and I'm probably going to 
start doing that eventually, but

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right now I just kind of got 
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So thank you for that 
suggestion, Russell. 

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They're a couple. 
That I took to the VFW. 

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Sweet couple love like them very
much, but I honestly don't think

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they're going to listen to this 
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They were kind of freaked out 
when I played before them, but 

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I'd like to send Tyrone Davinski
and also Russell a shout out for

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this week. 
All right, guys, back to the 

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show and welcome back. 
To the demon inside. 

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In 1972, when Adolfo was 10, his
mother moved back to Miami. 

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His godfather, who had said that
he was going to do great things,

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immediately started teaching 
Adelfo the ways of palomayombe 

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he was teaching them how to read
cards, which is telling the 

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future. 
He was teaching them how to 

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heal. 
He was teaching them practices 

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in pretty much witchcraft and 
that kind of culture. 

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Now his padrino or his pulero, 
his godfather had a naganga. 

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Now this naganga is kind of like
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religion. 
And in this altar, which is 

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actually a cauldron, it's 
supposed to communicate with 

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spirits and deities. 
In their belief for them to 

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invoke the spirits of the dead, 
they have to use human skulls 

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along with other human body 
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From that person. 
They would invoke the spirit to 

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do their bidding for personal 
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This was often used when a 
criminal would die. 

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They would go and bury his body,
use the pieces in the nganga and

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his spirit was supposed to be 
controlled by the palatal. 

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Sometimes it would work because 
the spirits were OK with it, 

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sometimes it wouldn't. 
But the faith that you have in 

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Palomayombe decided if you could
control or not control. 

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Now remember, Adolfo was the 
chosen one. 

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This is going to come to play a 
little bit later, so let's 

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continue. 
So this naganga, when his pilato

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was trying to teach him at 10 
years old, he would walk him 

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into a little shed that had no 
windows and Adolfo was not 

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allowed to look upon the 
naganga. 

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So he would have a blindfold on 
whenever he would enter that 

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room. 
Now, the nanganga was supposed 

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to be so powerful that if he 
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his eyes, he would have been 
killed immediately by the 

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spirits or by the deities. 
Eventually he started saying 

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that he would receive his own 
naganga when he got older, and 

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his godfather agreed with him. 
He said you're going to have the

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best, most powerful naganga that
anybody has ever had. 

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While he was teaching them his 
philosophies. 

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He told Adolfo it's OK to work 
with drug dealers, it's OK to 

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work with killers, it's OK to 
work with any of these people. 

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He goes but let the non 
believers kill themselves with 

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drugs. 
We will profit from their 

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foolishness. 
And also told him don't ever use

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drugs if a spirit enters your 
body and sees that you are 

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unclean. 
The spirit will kill you. 

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Now this affected him for his 
whole life. 

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He even killed his members 
whenever they use drugs. 

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So when Adefa was 14, he started
displaying psychic powers, and 

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one of these psychic powers was 
reading into the future. 

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He actually predicted a few 
months before President Reagan 

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was shot that President Reagan 
would be shot, but he would 

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survive. 
In 1983, when he turned 20, he 

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decided to move to Mexico City, 
where his Padrino, his 

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godfather, told him to go 
because there was no Palo 

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mayambe in Mexico and this was a
good time to put himself in 

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there to gather a following. 
So when he got there, he started

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doing card readings, readings of
the future. 

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He started doing limpias, which 
is clean cleansings. 

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And what that means is if you're
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anything like that, he'll clean 
you so that you can have better 

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luck, you know, things like 
that. 

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So while he was there, he 
eventually met two guys, Martin 

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Quintanilla Rodriguez and Omar 
Chui Oriya Ochoa. 

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And these two guys eventually 
became his lovers and his 

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disciples. 
When he was 21 he he moved back 

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to Miami where his Polaro told 
him that he was of age and he 

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would prepare him to receive his
own naganga and would and 

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prepare him for the initiation 
to become a palatto. 

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So during his initiation, on the
first day of his initiation, he 

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selected Cariapambe as his own 
spirit guide. 

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So Adolfos Palatto blindfolded 
him and asked him questions. 

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And for his final question, he 
asked them, Are you sure this is

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what you want? 
Now, this was after two weeks of

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our three weeks or so, many 
weeks of cleansing. 

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There's a whole thing, a 
spiritual cleaning that goes 

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with this. 
But I'm not going to say because

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I don't want people trying to 
mimic this. 

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I've had I've received a lot of 
weird emails and and messages. 

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That. 
I kind of worried somebody would

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try to do this, but let's 
continue. 

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So when he asked Adolfo if he 
was ready for this, he said 

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there is no going back. 
You will lose your soul. 

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Adolfo responded by saying, and 
I quote, my soul is dead. 

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I have no God. 
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His palatto then carved markings
into Adolfo's shoulders, unique 

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to him. 
So he was a palatto in his own 

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right. 
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He took off the blindfold. 
After 10 years he had his own 

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naganga, so shortly thereafter 
he moved back to Mexico City and

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went on his way to charm wealthy
drug dealers, helping them 

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schedule shipments and meetings 
on the basis of his predictions.

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Of course, for a price, he 
offered magic that would make 

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dealers and their hit men 
invisible to police, bulletproof

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against their enemies. 
He had a lot of followers that 

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were judges, police officers, 
narcotics officers, influential 

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people, you know, and drug 
dealers. 

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Now, his followers went beyond 
just the reading of cards and 

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the philosophies of Mario Paulo 
Mayambe. 

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They started worshipping him as 
a minor God in his own right. 

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He was their living conduit to 
the. 

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Spirit World. 
I believe this is where he loses

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control, not that he ever had 
any because I believe that 

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during that ceremony that he 
becomes a palatal. 

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The demon got inside of him, he 
welcomed it in. 

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Now this deity or a demon was 
taking more and more control, 

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but Adolfo was also taking 
control because Adolfo felt like

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a God. 
So eventually Adolfo started 

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making more grand rituals, 
ceremonies. 

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He started to give his members 
the to a lateral rights as well 

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like he had, but they weren't 
doing it in the traditional 

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sense like he did. 
He spent his whole life 

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learning. 
They were doing it within a few 

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months. 
I think this was a way for him 

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to get control of them faster. 
Now, because of that, they had 

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to faithfully and loyally be 
with Adolfo. 

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So when Adolfo started using 
real bodies from the cemetery, 

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he figured that it wasn't going 
to be enough for some of these 

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drug dealers. 
They were paying huge money for 

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what they called their spiritual
father. 

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So he started killing people. 
A lot of them were drug dealers.

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A lot of them were drug rivals 
to the dealers he was 

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protecting. 
Eventually he got to the point 

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where he thought he deserved a 
partnership in the drug 

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syndicate. 
Well they refused him and he 

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ends up taking revenge on that 
family. 

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Later on after he kills like six
members of the family and uses 

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them for his naganga, he ends up
with another drug family. 

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And so this guy starts doing 
these rituals and starts telling

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people that if you're not in 
this religion, then you're going

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to be sacrificed. 
But if you betray this religion,

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you're going to be sacrificed. 
He was becoming a God on earth 

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that was vengeful and everybody 
needed to please him. 

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Eventually he meets Sarah 
Aldrete who becomes his madrina 

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which is his partner and she 
becomes like the mother figure 

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of this religion. 
She and herself has a whole 

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different story. 
If you want you can watch 

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Netflix. 
She even talks about how she had

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seen his face change into a 
demonic face. 

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It's really interesting. 
Oh, I'm sorry, it's not on 

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Netflix. 
It's on Max. 

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So if you get a chance to look 
at it on Max. 

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So one day his members go out 
and find sacrifice, sacrificial 

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people, and they bring them back
to Adolfo where he is going to 

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kill them on his ranch. 
And this the sacrifice didn't 

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plead for his life, didn't 
scream, didn't cry, didn't do 

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anything. 
So it didn't feel Adolfo's need 

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for his naganga. 
So he told them his followers to

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go out and find an American. 
Now in 1989 was spring break 

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near Mexico and the town of 
Brownsville, which is actually a

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few hours from where I live, and
it had made big news. 

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His followers went out and 
grabbed a young man named Mark 

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Kilroy. 
They ended up sacrificing Mark 

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Kilroy and using his body parts 
for the naganga. 

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A few weeks later, one of the 
followers was driving by a 

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checkpoint where the police were
at. 

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He figured because he was 
protected that they wouldn't see

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him. 
And of course they could see 

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him. 
They grabbed him. 

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They started questioning him. 
He started talking about the 

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drugs and the killings. 
He led them to where they had 

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been killing people. 
They ended up catching other 

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members of this cult group and 
they ended up finding Mark 

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Kilroy's pieces of his bodies. 
So Dolpho and his lover 2 lovers

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the the two disciples from the 
beginning and Sarah ran and hid 

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in a motel and eventually they 
found him and he had one of the 

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guys shoot him in the face and 
that guy also committed suicide.

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Sarah was arrested and given 
life. 

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Now I don't like doing cult 
leaders because I believe 

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everything they do is for 
themselves and this is what 

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happened. 
Adolfo eventually started doing 

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for himself, but it was at the 
beginning when the palatal made 

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him give up his soul that I 
believe he became something 

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else. 
I think his soul or pride or 

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whatever was still in there 
trying to take over. 

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So let me explain it this way. 
And I've, I've heard this and 

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I've read this in the book 
called The Exorcist Interview, 

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and it was given to me by one of
the demon insiders, Aaron. 

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And what it says is even when 
you allow a demon in you, you 

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are still in control of your 
spirit. 

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You can still cast that demon 
out. 

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Even if you allowed them in now 
the demons going to tell you 

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it's not allowed. 
But it is because. 

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It's under the grace of God. 
I think he wasn't praying to God

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for God to help him. 
I think what he was doing was 

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trying to take control of the 
demon and have the demon do what

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he wanted. 
Now for me, I believe he was 

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fighting with the demon 
spiritually to be in control of 

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his own body. 
That's the only reason I'm doing

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this one Dolpho de Jesus 
Costanzo I believe was 

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possessed, but he was also 
trying to take control of the 

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demon. 
Now my question is this. 

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If you're trying to control a 
demon, what's that demon going 

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to do? 
Is he going to mess up your 

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plans like this happen? 
Is he going to go along with it?

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You're talking about a deity 
that has been around for a long 

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time now. 
Remember that I said in 

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Palomayombe they have curses 
that will get you divorced, will

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cause death, will cause 
bankruptcy, will cause all this 

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stuff. 
How do we know that a curse 

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isn't just the demon doing what 
somebody is asking or is doing 

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it just to prove to the human 
that he thinks he has power 

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'cause there's one thing about 
demons that people don't 

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remember and that these demons 
can't physically harm us, but 

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they are smarter than us because
that's all they do is learn how 

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to manipulate, how to lie, how 
to find our weakness. 

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And this is what they prey on. 
Thanks for listening guys. 

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Hope you enjoyed the show. 
Again, I wanted to thank Jacob 

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Bernard for his comments and 
thank you Aaron for the book. 

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Loved it and thank you guys for 
listening. 

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It's been fun doing this show 
and I'm going to keep doing it 

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as long as I can. 
So with that, I will talk to you

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all next week. 
Have a good week, take care. 

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The Demon Inside was written and
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It is a production of Venomous 
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Background music is by Lucas. 
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The title song Demon Inside. 
Was produced by Rice Pover, 

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