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How can you know if you've been 
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That's a good question, but it's
not the best question. 

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Most sin does not result in 
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death, but sets in motion a 
process that will end in death 

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without intervention. 
Remorse for sin is part of 

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repentance, but it has never 
been the plan of our Father to 

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wallow in it forever. 
Christ suffered in Gethsemane 

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for that very recent The plan 
has never been to go alone. 

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You need the help of heaven. 
Look to the past long enough to 

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learn and repent, and then turn 
around. 

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Look ahead and go. 
The Lord has said, Say nothing 

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but repentance unto this 
generation, Keep my 

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commandments, and assist to 
bring forth my work according to

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my commandments, and you shall 
be blessed. 

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So what does that mean? 
Say, say nothing, say nothing 

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but repentance. 
It is a bit perplexing because 

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he also said to go to all the 
world and preach the gospel 

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everywhere to everyone. 
And while repentance is an 

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essential part of the gospel, 
it's not the whole of it. 

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Hello, I'm Larry Corbridge, and 
this is episode 22 of the Stand 

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Forever series. 
I'm happy that you've joined us.

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In this episode, we will unpack 
that scripture and repentance is

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a vital part of the path leading
to the fulfillment of your 

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divine potential. 
In past episodes, we concluded 

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that a purposeful life leading 
to the to the fulfillment of 

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your divine potential requires 
knowing where you are going. 

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You know, we could call that 
point B and where you are now 

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point A, and then plot the 
course in between. 

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We determined the course is the 
Gospel of Jesus Christ, also 

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known as the doctrine of Christ,
including faith in the Lord 

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Jesus Christ, repentance, 
ordinances and covenants, 

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beginning with baptism, the gift
of the Holy Ghost, and enduring 

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to the end, building up the 
Kingdom of God is an active 

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contributing member of that 
Kingdom. 

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In the last episode we looked at
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We concluded that of all the 
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of all the laws of the gospel, 
faith in Christ maybe is 

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probably the one which, if more 
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would generate the greatest 
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Faith leads us to repentance. 
What is repentance and and how 

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do you know if you've been 
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Synonyms for repentance might 
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perhaps, or improvement. 
And if so, we might take the 

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Lord's admonition to say nothing
but repentance unto this 

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generation as meaning say 
nothing but continual 

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improvement to become more like 
the Lord. 

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Another, less common way of 
thinking about repentance is as 

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a subset of ambition. 
From the first attempts of an an

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infant to feed herself or walk 
unaided across the room, we are 

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all driven by a divine urge to 
improve, to do better. 

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That drive is sometimes referred
to as ambition. 

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It drives one to train harder, 
to run faster or farther, ski 

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better, jump higher, improve a 
golf swing, score more points, 

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provide better for a family, 
speak better, think better, be a

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better spouse, parent or 
grandparents, organize a closet,

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clean a house, mow the lawn, 
learn more or improve. 

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In any aspect of life, no one 
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No one has a goal to become what
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before. 
It is the drive that urges 

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people to improve and ultimately
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their divine potential. 
We are hardwired to improve. 

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That drive is part of your 
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It is embedded in your very 
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It is universal. 
The same among men and women, 

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children and adults. 
So repentance, at least. 

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I'd like you to think about this
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Being a subset of that more 
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drive to improve we could call 
ambition. 

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Repentance is the drive to 
specifically become more like 

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the Lord. 
It is not autonomic as breathing

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or the beat of your heart, but 
it is as natural as eating and 

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sleeping. 
Yes, what we otherwise call the 

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natural man and Satan resist 
change. 

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That is true. 
But your divine nature is 

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stronger and urges you to 
continually improve, to realize 

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your full potential. 
That process of of refinement is

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repentance. 
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Him, learn of Him, and trust 
Him, Repentance is to apply what

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you learn. 
It's that simple. 

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It is striving to align your 
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to do your will with His as you 
know it, your mind with His as 

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you know it, your your heart 
with His as you know it, your 

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actions with His as you know 
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If you are off course, 
repentance is turning back to 

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God, making the corrections 
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course. 
Jesus said the Father sent me to

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bless you in turning away 
everyone of you from your 

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iniquities. 
If you're on course, repentance 

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is the constant vigilance and 
discipline to stay on course, 

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move forward, and apply what you
learn as you do. 

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It is to advance from 1° of 
light and and knowledge to the 

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next, and from there to the next
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It is the glorious process of 
divine evolution, applying what 

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you learn. 
Exercising faith in Christ, 

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however, is more than forsaking 
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Although repentance is usually 
linked with overcoming evil, its

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sweep is as broad as the yawning
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who you can become. 
Many of your weaknesses are not 

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evil, they're just deficiencies 
if the shortfall in comparison 

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to who the Lord is and your full
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One person, for example, may 
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another not. 
There are as many variations of 

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knowledge as people, and yet 
everyone falls woefully short of

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the knowledge of God. 
One may be fearful and another 

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prone to depression. 
Perhaps those deficiencies are 

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not evil. 
They're just part of the gap in 

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the process of time. 
All deficiencies listen to this.

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All deficiencies may be resolved
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atonement, by faith in Him. 
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In other words, works, 
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Ghost, and staying on course 
engaged in God's work. 

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The grace of the Lord is 
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become strong in every way for 
those who humble themselves 

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before before Him and have faith
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But you can't. 
You can't do it alone. 

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You may change your behavior, 
but you can't change your nature

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on your own. 
You can't undo or compensate for

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your sins and mistakes, and you 
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God alone. 
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However great or small your sins
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to separate you from the 
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forever, which is the essential 
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We all need help. 
We all need help to bridge the 

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gap. 
Faith in Christ and repentance 

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are coordinates or waypoints on 
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Repentance involves, of course, 
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natural man and Satan resist. 
As we've said now, most of the 

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great fallacies of life, it 
seems to me, all lead to the 

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same damning conclusion. 
Specifically, I don't need to 

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change, or in other words, I 
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They all have this one common 
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the need to improve his thoughts
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walk after the image of his own 
God and muddle along at no great

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cost. 
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of the God of convenience, 
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Here are some of those 
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Now I'm sorry this is kind of a 
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There is no God, therefore there
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wrong. 
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need to change. 
God is a spirit without human 

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attributes, form, body parts or 
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A divine mind that permeates the
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Christ, the Holy Ghost, or our 
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in three personages an 
omniscient force or spirit that 

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is beyond the comprehension of 
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Therefore, I don't need to 
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I I I because I can't identify 
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ethereal power. 
I cannot understand. 

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One can't strive to become like 
something that is fundamentally 

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and eternally different from man
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The atonement makes possible 
salvation by grace alone. 

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All that is needed is to confess
Christ in my heart. 

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Therefore, there's no need to 
change another. 

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All that is necessary is to be 
to be saved is confession and 

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the sacraments. 
Therefore I don't need to change

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or Some are predestined to 
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Therefore I don't need to change
or. 

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The afterlife is comprised of 
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and hell. 
The wicked go to hell, and 

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everybody else, the half 
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lukewarm, along with the 
faithful and valiant. 

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I'll go to the only other 
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Mediocrity smuggling marches 
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following after her, trampling 
justice as they go, and they all

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sit down with those that 
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their very lies, in defense of 
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Therefore what? 
There's no need to knock myself 

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out to live by every word that 
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of God. 
I don't need to change. 

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Here's another, There are no 
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day. 
Religious leaders today only 

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speak of the scripture long ago 
revealed, and the scriptures are

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subject to individual 
interpretation. 

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There is no one who can say 
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Thus saith the Lord of God. 
And so we are left to interpret 

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and pick and choose among among 
what has been revealed according

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to our needs and biases. 
Therefore, I'm free to go and do

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as I choose and as I think best.
Here's another. 

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A loving God will save all his 
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This is a big one. 
A loving God will save all of 

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his children. 
Therefore, I don't need to 

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change or the moral code of 
yesterday is antiquated, 

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unsophisticated and small 
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Therefore, I can live however I 
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anyone else. 
Live my own truth. 

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I don't need to change or all is
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There is no hope. 
I can't change, so what's the 

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use of trying? 
I can't be forgiven for all that

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I all I have done. 
I'm bad, It's too late. 

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Therefore there's no need to 
change. 

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Here's another I can't be 
perfect, so why try? 

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Or I'm a nobody, not good 
enough, I can't attain to 

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eternal life, therefore there's 
no reason to change. 

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Or I can't keep the 
commandments, so why try? 

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Or I'm not worthy of God's love.
Or to be among the Saints, so 

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there's no need to change. 
Or it's not, it's not that bad. 

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And if we're guilty in the end, 
God will beat us with a few 

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stripes and at last we will all 
be saved in the Kingdom of God. 

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Therefore, I don't need to 
change or I'm OK just the way I 

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am, Maybe even awesome. 
I just need to be myself and 

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live by my truth. 
Therefore there is no need to 

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change another. 
The church is not true. 

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Therefore, I don't need to 
change, or I can live the gospel

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on my own. 
I don't need the church to tell 

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me how to live. 
Therefore, I can March to the 

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beat of my own drum, worship 
after the image of my own God, 

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and I don't need to change. 
Now, it may be that not everyone

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accepts any one of those 
fallacies for the express 

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purpose of avoiding change, but 
that is the outcome, and you can

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be sure Satan promotes them for 
that very reason. 

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He will and does thwart positive
change. 

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In other words, repentance at 
every turn. 

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So here's another question. 
Does sin alienate the Spirit? 

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Or is it the failure to repent 
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The question may at first seem 
academic, maybe even silly. 

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We might think of course sin 
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if so, those of us who are prone
to air would be spiritual 

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zombies. 
There is scriptural support for 

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actually for both propositions. 
As for the belief that sin 

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causes the Spirit to withdraw, 
the Lord said he that looketh 

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upon a woman to lust after her 
shall deny the faith and shall 

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not have the Spirit, and if he 
repents not, he should be cast 

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out. 
Does does this mean no one who 

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has entertained an immoral 
thought can have the Spirit? 

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The Lord cannot in in the words 
of the Scripture, the Lord 

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cannot look upon sin with the 
least degree of allowance and 

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Mormon records the Spirit of the
Lord does not dwell in an unholy

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temple. 
King Benjamin warned, If you 

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should transgress and go 
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spoken, that you do withdraw 
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the Lord, that it may have no 
place in you to guide you in 

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wisdoms paths, that you may be 
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preserved. 
The same cometh out in open 

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rebellion against God. 
Therefore he listeth to obey the

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evil spirit, and becometh an 
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Those are sobering statements. 
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temple? 
Is it any sin, or is it a course

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of action, in the words of King 
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listening to obey the evil 
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Is it a single sin, or is it 
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It is surprising that immoral 
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Scripture as offensive to the 
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What about acting on those 
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Adultery or other immorality, or
lying? 

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Surely if the thought alone is 
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execution of the thought is 
evermore so. 

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sufficient to alienate the 
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Now 1 might point to section 121
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establish that sin alienates the
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actually say that whenever one 
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whenever one undertakes to cover
his sins, the Spirit is grieved 

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and withdraws. 
The loss of the Spirit because 

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of covering or duplicity is 
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the Spirit because of a single 
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Hiding or covering sin seems to 
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offensive to God. 
Again, in King Benjamin's words,

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going contrary to that which has
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obey the evil spirit is not a 
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direction. 
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important. 
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the refusal to learn from 
mistakes and constitutes a 

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rejection of God, making one an 
enemy to God. 

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Again, in King Benjamin's words,
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enticings of the Holy Spirit, 
which is to repent, yielding to 

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the Spirit as a natural man, an 
enemy to God, implies some 

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degree of the Holy Spirit 
sufficient to entice. 

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One example in support of the 
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failure to repent results in 
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initial mistake is, is Christ 
twice repeated assertion. 

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Except ye repent, ye shall all 
perish. 

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Except ye repent, ye shall all 
perish. 

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The invitation to repent and the
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interpret to mean spiritual 
death, will follow without 

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repentance presupposes 2 things,
sin in the 1st place and death 

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yet to happen. 
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death. 
Although catastrophic injuries 

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can result in immediate physical
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our body by a foreign agent, 
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bacteria, usually does not 
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sets in motion a process that 
may cause death unless checked 

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by some healing intervention. 
In a fallen world, all are 

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spiritually vulnerable to 
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While catastrophic sinful 
actions may result in immediate 

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death, most sin is the incursion
of a foreign agent that sets in 

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motion a process that will 
result in spiritual death unless

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checked, unless checked by the 
healing intervention of 

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repentance and the redeeming 
grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. 

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The presence of the Holy Spirit 
is also not binary, black or 

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white. 
You either have it or you don't.

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There are degrees of glory and 
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This is supported by scriptures 
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fullness of the Holy Ghost. 
A fullness implies lesser 

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degrees as well or preliminary 
variations of spiritual power. 

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Moses said in resistance to 
Satan, Blessed be the name of my

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God, for his spirit hath not 
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So both answers are correct. 
Of course, sin is hostile to the

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Spirit of the Lord, even evil 
thought. 

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But most sin does not result in 
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death, but sets in motion a 
process that will end in death, 

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spiritual death, without 
intervention. 

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Therefore, in the Lord's words, 
repent or perish. 

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The Lord has also said about 
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This By this you may know, if a 
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behold, he will confess and 
forsake them. 

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Those those two confessing and 
forsaking are evidence of 

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repentance, but not the whole of
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Repentance begins with seeing. 
It begins with honesty, which 

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gives rise to confession to whom
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Covering sin is more offensive 
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itself, a woman said of her 
former husband. 

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My previous spouse is a good 
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He unfortunately became ensnared
in a pornography addiction that 

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consumed him for the majority of
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This addiction caused him to 
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His lying began to infiltrate 
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our relationship, his 
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schooling and his jobs. 
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for long as he had difficulty 
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would often leave work to return
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This addiction eventually led 
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with women outside of his 
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behaviors. 
Again, still quoting from her in

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response to his behaviors. 
I became frustrated and 

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impatient, which only worsened 
his depression and self hate. 

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We truly tried in the marriage, 
however, without honesty and 

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loyalty, the relationship became
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we divorced. 
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Sin alone is bad enough, but it 
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deceit, sin and covering sin and
lying that wreaks havoc in the 

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lives of people, a man said of 
his repentance. 

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I have never felt more peace 
with my worthiness than I do 

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now. 
I've never felt more honest 

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without baggage in my life. 
I'm not hiding things, he said. 

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And I feel free to worship my 
Heavenly Father and Savior Jesus

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Christ without guilt. 
My conversations with my 

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Heavenly Father are more free 
and meaningful. 

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They are full of gratitude and 
love. 

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They are said with passion and 
not with the feeling of remorse 

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as they may have been in the 
past. 

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Prayer is a new found source of 
strength and peace at all times,

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not just in times of need. 
Now, confession is to honestly 

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own or acknowledge one's sins. 
Integrity, especially about sin 

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and weakness, is foundational. 
You can't fix what you ignore, 

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deny, or don't see. 
Honesty is essential and 

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covering is especially harmful. 
A woman said of her sins. 

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The very thought of coming into 
the presence of my God did Wrack

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my soul with inexpressible 
horror. 

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I longed to come back to church 
and I and feel the love from all

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the other members and have my 
spirit fed. 

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I longed to be forgiven. 
I knew I had to confess those 

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ugly sins to the Bishop, no 
matter how many prayers I said I

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had to confess my sins. 
Finally, the day came when I had

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to meet with the Bishop. 
Surprisingly, I wasn't really 

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afraid anymore to meet him. 
I had been carrying this dirty 

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laundry far too long and I was 
anxious to get rid of it. 

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We had a good meeting. 
I know without a doubt that he 

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is a man of God. 
We discussed the path to 

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repentance and I left his office
with such a weight lifted from 

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my soul. 
Confession has been 

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misunderstood, abused and even 
prostituted in the religious 

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world. 
As a result, some dismiss it 

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while many others believe it to 
be the sum total of repentance. 

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The confess and go mindset looks
for the cheap and easy Rd. road 

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to heaven, which is not a 
shortcut at all, but a dead end.

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Repeated cycles of sin, 
confession, and sin and 

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confession again ignore the 
other primary evidence of 

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repentance, which is forsaking. 
Eventually it becomes a mockery 

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to God and the power of it all 
dissipates. 

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Others, equally mistaken, 
believe they can go it alone, 

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live a righteous life, and pay 
the Lord back without confession

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of serious sin. 
The pay it back mindset can 

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claim some scriptural support as
well, such as, for example, from

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the Doctrine and Covenants. 
Thrust in your sickle with all 

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your soul and your sins are 
forgiven you. 

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When taken in isolation, that 
statement give right gives rise 

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to a false conclusion. 
The problem with the with the 

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pay it back mindset is Christ 
and his atoning sacrifice are 

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completely ignored. 
They're not even part of the 

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equation. 
There may be self-made man in 

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the earthly sense, but there's 
no self-made man in the godly 

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sense. 
You can't pay it back. 

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No matter how hard you work 
worlds without end, you can't 

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pay it back. 
You can't do it on your own. 

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I have seen that reality play 
out and replay over and over and

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over again. 
People who live righteous good 

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lives but never fully free from 
from past mistakes. 

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Never hole, always with a 
critical piece missing, always 

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the back door slightly ajar, 
rattling in the wind, until 

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finally, sometimes decades 
later, sometimes almost a 

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lifetime later, they confess and
finally the back door slam shot.

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The wind still blow, but the 
door doesn't rattle anymore and 

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finally he sleeps soundly 
through the night. 

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Confession is essential. 
I I don't know why that is true,

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I just know it is. 
Maybe it's essential because it 

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forges integrity. 
Forsaking is enabled by 

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confession. 
It has. 

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Forsaking has 2 dimensions. 
Forsaking sin and forsaking the 

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past. 
The first dimension to forsake 

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sin is to stop, obviously stop 
sinful, sinful behavior and 

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start better behavior. 
It is. 

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It is a course, a course 
correction, turning to God. 

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One of the most disheartening 
things about reading the life 

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stories of so many people while 
serving on the Restoration and 

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Cancellations Committee is that 
not some people commit serious 

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sins, but they repeat them time 
and time and time again. 

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They don't turn. 
It is the pattern of 

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unrighteousness in a continuous 
downward spiral that is so 

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damaging. 
It is easier to avoid getting 

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into the downward spiral than to
pull out of it once you are 

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headed down. 
The word most often used in the 

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Old Testament for repentance is 
turning. 

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Ezekiel, for example, recorded 
as I live, saith, Lord God, I 

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have no pleasure in the death of
the wicked, but that the wicked 

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turn from his way. 
But that the wicked turn from 

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his way. 
And live turn ye, turn ye from 

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your evil ways, for why will ye 
die, O House of Israel? 

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Speaking to King Agrippa, Paul 
said the Lord gave him a charge 

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relative to people to whom he 
would be sent to open their eyes

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and to turn them from darkness 
to light, from the power of 

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Satan unto God, that they may 
receive forgiveness of sins and 

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inheritance among them, which 
are sanctified by faith. 

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That is in me. 
Forsaking also involves turning.

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It sounds simple enough, but it 
is a monstrous labor, especially

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when trying to kill the Dragons 
of addiction. 

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They are like the evil monsters 
of movies who, after being 

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pounded into the ground and 
blown to bits, rise again out of

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the flames as soon as you turn 
your back. 

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You want to win, you want to 
stop. 

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But after so many battles, you 
become exhausted, and they 

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tragically conclude you can't, 
thinking you're just too tired, 

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you've battled too long, you're 
not strong enough, as as your 

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sword slips from your hand and 
the Dragons turn to eat you 

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alive. 
The problem is you're trying to 

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do it on your own. 
And on your own you're right, 

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you're not strong enough. 
The Dragons are too big and you 

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can't win, not alone. 
The plan has never been to go 

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alone. 
You need the help of heaven and 

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probably the help and support of
others as well. 

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Confession not only engages the 
help of trusted others, such as 

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a priesthood leader, a spouse or
parent, trusted counselors, but 

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it also opens the door wide to 
receive heaven's help. 

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Most people think of forsaking 
in in the first sense, that is 

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forsaking sin. 
But the second dimension of 

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forsaking, forsaking the past, 
is equally important but less 

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understood. 
This part of forsaking also 

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involves turning, but not from 
sin, rather turning to look 

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ahead. 
We are all debilitated merely by

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remembering sins, let alone 
returning to them again. 

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That's part of the awfulness of 
sin, in King Benjamin's words. 

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The awful awfulness of sin is 
the corrosive effect it may have

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even after repentance and 
forgiveness. 

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A man seeking to have all his 
blessings restored as a member 

454
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:04,440
of the church said this. 
I struggled for a long time 

455
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,400
regarding feeling worthy even 
when I was in on the straight 

456
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,760
and narrow. 
Honestly, in the past some of my

457
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,440
most depressing times were when 
I was the most spiritual. 

458
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Odd I know. 
He said I hung on too much to my

459
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:27,600
past and I let Satan creep in 
and convince, convince me I will

460
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:35,560
never be worthy. 
This has scared me for years and

461
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,240
I felt like I shouldn't get too 
spiritual because of the 

462
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:44,120
depression I would often fall 
into, which is why it has taken 

463
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,080
me so long to get to this point 
I'm at now. 

464
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:51,520
I truly have a testimony of the 
atonement, he said. 

465
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:57,400
Whereas before, I honestly don't
think I did, otherwise I would 

466
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,720
have rejoiced in the spirit. 
Another man lost his membership 

467
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,840
in the church because of 
adultery. 

468
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:13,040
After several years he repented 
and was re baptized, but even 

469
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,640
still he could not forgive 
himself. 

470
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:24,000
He could not forgive himself and
languished for decades longer 

471
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,160
without doing what was needed to
have all his blessings restored.

472
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,760
What a tragedy. 
Surely the Lord forgave him long

473
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,200
ago, but he would not do the 
same. 

474
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:47,400
He forsook his sins, but he did 
not forsake the past. 

475
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:55,160
In the meantime, life passed him
by, not because he wasn't 

476
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,400
worthy, but because he wouldn't 
believe it. 

477
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,400
He missed out being the priest 
of leader he could have been for

478
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,360
his children and grandchildren 
had he forgiven himself and put 

479
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:20,000
away the past, Forsake the past.
Remorse for sin is part of 

480
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,280
repentance, but it has never 
been the plan of our Father to 

481
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,400
wallow in it forever. 
Christ suffered in Gethsemane 

482
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:40,600
for that very reason that we not
suffer as He. 

483
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:49,000
It makes no sense to refuse 
Christ payment only to pay the 

484
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:56,920
same debt again. 
Double payment is just as 

485
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,200
stupid, just as foolish as non 
payment. 

486
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:07,040
Alma recorded. 
And now for three days and for 

487
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,240
the three nights I was wracked 
even with the pains of a damsel.

488
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,400
And it came to pass that as I 
was wracked with torment while I

489
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,360
was harrowed up. 
Now listen to this while I was 

490
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:28,680
harrowed up by the memory of my 
many sins, looking back, behold,

491
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,920
I remembered also to have heard 
my Father prophecy unto the 

492
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,880
people concerning the coming of 
1 Jesus Christ, a Son of God, to

493
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,760
atone for the sins of the world.
Now as my mind caught hold upon 

494
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,400
this thought, again this is Alma
said. 

495
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,960
I cried within my heart, O 
Jesus, thou Son of God, have 

496
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,120
mercy on me, who am in the gall 
of bitterness, and am encircled 

497
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,920
about by the everlasting chains 
of death. 

498
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,480
And now, behold, when I thought 
this, I could remember my pains 

499
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,720
no more. 
Yeah, I was harrowed up by the 

500
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:15,840
memory of my sins. 
No more. 

501
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,000
And oh, what joy, what marvelous
light I did behold the A My soul

502
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,440
was filled with joy as 
succeeding as was my pain. 

503
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:36,720
Alma was able to put away the 
past and became a very fruitful 

504
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:44,400
servant of the Lord. 
You can't move forward-looking 

505
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:51,040
back, the Lord said. 
No man, having put his hand to 

506
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,920
the plow and looking back, is 
fit for the Kingdom. 

507
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,320
Direction is extremely 
important. 

508
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:08,480
It is far more important to be 
on, to be on course than how far

509
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,000
along you are at any point in 
time. 

510
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,840
Forgiveness is not forgetting, 
nor is it not regretting. 

511
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,480
God says He remembers your sins 
no more when you repent. 

512
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,760
At least they're no longer a 
deterrent or an issue with Him. 

513
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,120
It is with Him as though they 
had never happened in so far as 

514
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,240
your worthiness goes. 
But not so with us. 

515
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,640
By remembering and regretting, 
you find it harder to believe in

516
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,440
yourself, which weakens your 
faith. 

517
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,720
And the more you have to forget,
the harder it is to believe, 

518
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,920
especially to believe in 
yourself. 

519
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,560
That is part of the awfulness of
sin. 

520
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:03,760
Even when you repent, even when 
you are forgiven, the natural 

521
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,960
tendency is to insist on 
suffering more, believing you 

522
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,840
don't and can't measure up. 
And when you believe that Satan 

523
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,440
still wins. 
If he cannot entice you to 

524
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,320
return to wallow again in the 
same mire, the next best thing 

525
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,400
is to undermine your confidence 
today, because you were once in 

526
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,400
the mire, and either way, he 
wins. 

527
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,280
There is a difference. 
There is a difference between 

528
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,400
the regret of past sins for 
which you have repented and the 

529
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,240
crushing burden of unresolved 
sin. 

530
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,360
If you remember and regret your 
sins, it doesn't mean you 

531
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,720
haven't repented or been 
forgiven. 

532
00:45:55,240 --> 00:46:01,080
It only means you are human with
cognitive abilities greater than

533
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,080
your cat. 
To an extent, you are schooled 

534
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:12,480
by failure, and failure is never
really failure until you quit or

535
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,720
refuse to learn from it. 
By remembering the good and the 

536
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:21,880
bad, you are more fully informed
to sell ahead. 

537
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,360
Forsaking, therefore, is not 
only stopping sinful behavior 

538
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:34,040
and starting better behavior, 
but also putting away the past 

539
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:42,520
you won't forget. 
Face your past honestly, as 

540
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,560
painful as it may be, but don't 
be its victim. 

541
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Don't let it claim you 
otherwise. 

542
00:46:53,880 --> 00:47:01,080
You deny Christ, you deny his 
suffering is sufficient to meet 

543
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:06,200
the demands of justice. 
You insist on suffering more and

544
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,000
continue to kick yourself around
the ranch. 

545
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:20,960
The Lord said. 
For behold, I, God, have have 

546
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:27,200
suffered these things, for all 
that they might not suffer if 

547
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:33,960
they would repent. 
Look, look to the past long 

548
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,480
enough to learn and repent, and 
then turn around. 

549
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:47,000
Look ahead and go. 
If you have repented, if you 

550
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,160
have done all you can do, shut 
the back door. 

551
00:47:51,840 --> 00:48:00,800
That is part of forsaking. 
Otherwise it's all for none, all

552
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,920
of Christ suffering and all of 
your suffering, all in vain. 

553
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:12,840
All for not let it go. 
Shut the door. 

554
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,680
That's the second dimension of 
forsaking. 

555
00:48:23,410 --> 00:48:31,720
There is great power in 
forgiveness, That is power when 

556
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:37,960
God Forgives us, and also power 
when we forgive others. 

557
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:46,280
To be forgiven we must forgive, 
Jesus taught. 

558
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,480
For if you forgive men their 
trespasses, your heavenly Father

559
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:57,000
will also forgive you. 
But if you forgive not men their

560
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:03,680
trespasses, neither will your 
father forgive your trespasses. 

561
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:09,880
Pretty sobering, thought Alma 
uniquely taught what he alone 

562
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:15,360
called the law of restoration. 
He said, For that which you do 

563
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,880
send out shall return unto you 
again and be restored. 

564
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,720
Isaiah said The righteous shall 
eat the fruit of their doings. 

565
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,360
You receive what you what you 
give. 

566
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:39,440
That is an absolute vital truth.
Forgive. 

567
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,360
To be forgiven is 1 expression 
of that truth. 

568
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:50,720
Here are a few other examples of
this law of restoration that you

569
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:56,120
receive what you give. 
Blessed are the merciful, for 

570
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,840
they shall obtain mercy. 
For what judgment you judge ye 

571
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,400
shall be judged, and what 
measure ye meet, it shall be 

572
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,560
measured to you again. 
Here's another. 

573
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,120
For behold, the same that 
judgeth rashly shall be judged 

574
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,440
rashly again. 
For according to his works shall

575
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:27,320
his wages be. 
Therefore he that smiteth shall 

576
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,440
be smitten again of the Lord. 
Pretty sobering. 

577
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,800
Here's another one. 
For whosoever shall be ashamed 

578
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:44,920
of me and my words of him, shall
the Son of Man be ashamed, when 

579
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,480
he shall come in his glory and 
in his Father's. 

580
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:56,120
And of the holy angels again, 
Alma's compelling words. 

581
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:03,600
For that which you do send out 
shall we return unto you again 

582
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,480
and be restored the law of 
restoration. 

583
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,320
We create our own heaven or 
hell. 

584
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,000
We build it. 
We lay each stone of the 

585
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,080
foundation. 
We place the floor and raise the

586
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,560
walls. 
We hammer every now we place 

587
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,160
each shingle. 
If there are flowers in the 

588
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,600
window box, it is because we 
planted them. 

589
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:40,960
We build our own house. 
We receive what we give. 

590
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:47,880
What awaits us is not so much 
reward as the product of our own

591
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:54,800
construction, the reflection of 
our life, the reproduction there

592
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,960
of our life here. 
That is the law of restoration. 

593
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:09,920
God stands ready to help us as 
we help others. 

594
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,680
Part of that truth relates to 
forgiveness. 

595
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,600
He will forgive us as we forgive
others. 

596
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,640
So again in the Lord's words, 
Wherefore I say unto you, that 

597
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,720
you ought to forgive one 
another. 

598
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,720
For he that forgiveth not his 
brother, his trespasses standeth

599
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:37,440
condemned before the Lord, for 
the remaineth in him the greater

600
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:42,880
sin. 
Jesus also said to forgive 

601
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:51,000
anyone 70 * 7, which is of 
course always forgiving. 

602
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,120
Others should not be confused, 
however, should not be confused 

603
00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,400
with condoning, overlooking, 
ignoring, or enabling sin. 

604
00:53:07,330 --> 00:53:11,170
Sometimes people are more 
focused on the consequences of 

605
00:53:11,170 --> 00:53:17,810
church membership limitations or
withdrawal than the consequences

606
00:53:17,850 --> 00:53:21,450
of sin itself, particularly 
spiritual death. 

607
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,680
And in the minds of many, 
repentance has more to do with 

608
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,240
compliance with the conditions 
of church discipline than what 

609
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,760
is necessary to be for be 
forgiven by Heavenly Father 

610
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,880
because of the intervention of 
the Lord Jesus Christ. 

611
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,600
There is a phrase people often 
use when Speaking of repentance 

612
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,200
that seems to me to be somewhat 
misleading and maybe even 

613
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:54,640
harmful. 
They refer to the process of 

614
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,280
repentance. 
That's the phrase. 

615
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,120
On its face, it's fine, although
not scriptural. 

616
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:07,240
Repentance is a process, but not
formulaic. 

617
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,320
When people say they went 
through the process of 

618
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,960
repentance, what they usually 
mean is they complied with the 

619
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,520
requirements and conditions of 
church discipline rather than 

620
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,040
what the Lord requires for 
redemption. 

621
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,160
They they may assume they are 
all one in the same, but that's 

622
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,280
that's a mistake. 
The process of church discipline

623
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,640
includes confession to a common 
judge such as a Bishop, state 

624
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,840
president, or mission president,
submission to any informal or 

625
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,800
formal limitations of membership
privileges, compliance with the 

626
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,600
conditions to recover those 
privileges, leading to ultimate 

627
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,720
restoration. 
That is what people usually mean

628
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:08,800
by the process of repentance, 
but godly sorrow, forsaking, 

629
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:15,400
restitution, fasting and prayer,
the atonement, and even the Lord

630
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,960
Jesus Christ are not expressly 
in that sequence. 

631
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:28,240
They may be added, and hopefully
so, but they are ancillary and 

632
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:33,960
the administrative process may 
over shadow redemption. 

633
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,880
A state president commented 
about a man's preparation to 

634
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,880
have his membership restrictions
lifted, saying this, he acted 

635
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,000
like a normal member. 
He would always fast and pray 

636
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,080
for forgiveness from the Lord 
for his actions. 

637
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,040
End Quote. 
I wonder. 

638
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:01,720
I wonder if that is in fact what
most normal members do. 

639
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,320
Are they focused on the 
consequences of sin or the 

640
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,360
consequences of membership 
restrictions? 

641
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,920
Are they focused on doing what 
is necessary to regain the 

642
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,480
Spirit of God or good standing 
in the church? 

643
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:27,120
Both are important, and they 
should coincide to some extent, 

644
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,680
but they do not always. 
And the process of repentance 

645
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,280
without redemption is formed 
without substance. 

646
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Substance. 
The Church, as marvelous as it 

647
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:48,000
is and as essential as it is, 
the Church does not dispense 

648
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,640
redemption. 
The Lord does that. 

649
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,760
The process of restricting or 
withdrawing church membership is

650
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:08,360
what the Lord said to Alma is to
regulate all the affairs of the 

651
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,400
church. 
Regulating the affairs of the 

652
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,680
church is important. 
To protect the innocent, help 

653
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,680
people. 
Yes. 

654
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,560
To repent and protect the good 
name of the Church. 

655
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,960
Confession, personal counseling,
informal membership 

656
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,840
restrictions, and Church 
membership councils facilitate 

657
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:37,440
and encourage forsaking and are 
a great blessing to people who 

658
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,840
are penitent in the process of 
Church discipline. 

659
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:48,200
There is a beginning and an end 
to that process, and that can 

660
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:53,640
structure and greatly aid 
repentance, which is otherwise 

661
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:58,160
somewhat unstructured. 
That's that structure confers a 

662
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:05,280
sense of integrity, submission 
and completion, enabling one to 

663
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,280
close more easily the back door.
Now that's important. 

664
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,240
After a long stretch of 
infidelity and suffering, a 

665
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,320
woman spoke with her Bishop. 
She said this. 

666
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,200
I told him everything. 
My transgressions were serious 

667
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,120
enough to lead to my 
disfellowship, and this is the 

668
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,120
moment that turned my life 
around, she said. 

669
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,960
I no longer had any desire to 
engage in immoral behavior. 

670
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:41,040
In fact, it was a sickening 
thought and I wish never to 

671
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,760
return to that life again. 
This is the biggest miracle of 

672
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:52,720
all to me is how God can heal us
when we lay our burdens at His 

673
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,800
feet. 
End Quote. 

674
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:01,280
One might think there is a great
inequity in the Church, that 

675
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,440
while members who are active or 
partially active experience 

676
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:12,440
restrictions or withdrawal of 
membership privileges, a great 

677
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:18,440
many members of the church fly 
under the radar, living lives of

678
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,760
wild abandoned in flagrant 
disregard to the commandments of

679
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,560
God, without institutional 
consequence. 

680
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:32,040
That view, however, derives from
the mistaken perception of 

681
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:38,840
church discipline as negative 
when in truth it is intended to 

682
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,560
be positive. 
Applied under the inspiration of

683
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:49,440
heaven, it disrupts the routine,
upsets the apple cart, breaks 

684
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:55,320
patterns, upsets A complacent or
destructive status quo, and 

685
00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:01,120
helps people turn. 
It helps people turn their lives

686
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,880
around, hopefully turn to the 
Lord, which is frequently the 

687
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:12,280
result. 
The lack of church intervention 

688
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,760
can be very harmful. 
Not only may the transgressor 

689
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,680
continue to suffer the ill 
effects of unresolved sin, but 

690
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:29,160
innocent people, especially a 
faithful spouse or children, may

691
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,000
well continue to suffer the 
collateral damage of another's 

692
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,680
sins only for want of church 
intervention. 

693
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:45,600
One of its primary purposes of 
church discipline is to protect 

694
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,880
the innocent, but without any 
intervention, the innocent may 

695
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:57,240
continue to suffer. 
There are always consequences, 

696
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:03,480
and the consequences of no 
consequences can be devastating.

697
01:01:10,730 --> 01:01:16,010
So finally, another question. 
Stay with me here. 

698
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,160
How can I know if I've been 
forgiven? 

699
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,440
How can you know if you've been 
forgiven? 

700
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,240
That's a good question, but it's
not the best question. 

701
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,760
Many great souls have hunger to 
know their standing before God. 

702
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,720
We all need to know that. 
It is part of what drove Joseph 

703
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,320
Smith into the Grove to pray on 
that spring morning. 

704
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,200
It is what caused Enos to pray 
all day and into the night. 

705
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,240
It is what caused Isaiah to 
doubt himself. 

706
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,320
It is what caused Alma to say 
that he was wracked, even with 

707
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,840
the pains of a damned soul for 
three days and night. 

708
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:09,880
In addition to the First Vision,
the Lord also assured Joseph 

709
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,000
Smith his sins were forgiven on 
at least three separate 

710
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,600
occasions. 
In almost every instance when 

711
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:24,080
the Lord declared thy sins are 
forgiven thee, He followed with 

712
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:30,520
go to work. 
When people can stop worrying 

713
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:38,080
about their standing before God,
when they can forsake the past 

714
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:44,640
and forget about themselves, 
they are able to go to work and 

715
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:51,040
focus on others, then they can 
become fruitful. 

716
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:58,440
The worry about 1 standing 
before God is similar to the 

717
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,640
third pillar of the foundation 
of faith that we've talked 

718
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,400
about. 
To have an actual knowledge, the

719
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,520
course you are pursuing is 
acceptable to God. 

720
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:17,720
It is of course a valid concern,
but people waste far too much 

721
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:23,480
energy and time worrying about 
whether or when they have been 

722
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,920
or will be forgiven. 
While they are fussing over 

723
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,640
whether they have been or will 
be forgiven, life passes by. 

724
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:43,160
If you are on course and moving 
forward, you will be forgiven if

725
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,800
you haven't been already, and 
you will attain to eternal life 

726
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,120
if you stay the course. 
That is all you need to know. 

727
01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:00,200
The better question is not have 
I been forgiven, rather am I on 

728
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,960
course? 
That's the question. 

729
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Forgiveness, whether yesterday, 
today or tomorrow doesn't matter

730
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:15,040
if you are on course. 
If you are, and if you are not 

731
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:20,320
covering sin, you may have full 
confidence before the Lord. 

732
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:26,000
The Lord said he that repents 
and does the commandments of the

733
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:35,200
Lord shall be forgiven absolute.
It will happen so don't worry 

734
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:42,200
about it and go to work. 
A similar question is have I 

735
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:47,320
done enough to repent? 
The answer is the same. 

736
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,760
Are you on course and moving 
forward? 

737
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:56,160
If so, you will do enough if you
haven't already. 

738
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,720
The Spirit will show you all 
things you should do. 

739
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:06,680
If there are apologies that need
saying, He will tell you. 

740
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,200
If there is restitution that 
needs to be made, He will tell 

741
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,680
you. 
If there's something unresolved,

742
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:18,360
the Lord will tell you. 
If you are honest, if you ask, 

743
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,200
and if you listen, the Lord will
tell you. 

744
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:35,680
And when He does do it? 
Faith without repentance is dead

745
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,280
in profits. 
Nothing. 

746
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:44,040
If you are off course, turn to 
get on course. 

747
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:51,000
Look to the past long enough to 
learn and repent and then turn 

748
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:56,520
around and look ahead. 
Be vigilant and disciplined to 

749
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:02,760
stay on course. 
Repent to be born again and then

750
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:08,560
stay alive from day-to-day. 
Forgive all others that you may 

751
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:13,800
be forgiven. 
Don't think of repentance as a 

752
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:19,680
series of steps or elements. 
To check off faith in Christ is 

753
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,840
to look to Him, learn of Him, 
and trust Him. 

754
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,320
Repentance is to apply what you 
learn. 

755
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:36,160
It's that simple. 
We've all sinned and come short 

756
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,600
of the glory of God. 
Our sin separate us from the 

757
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:45,360
presence and power of God, which
is the essential problem in 

758
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,280
life. 
We all have need for redemption.

759
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:55,440
We all have weaknesses. 
We all need to be strengthened. 

760
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:02,680
As long as we draw breath, we 
will have need to repent because

761
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:09,000
long as long as we live, we have
need for God's Son, His Spirit 

762
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,800
and his life. 
It doesn't end, at least anytime

763
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:19,920
soon, if ever. 
It is life's great adventure. 

764
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:28,120
In the next episode, we will 
focus on baptism and ordinances 

765
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:33,800
as essential waypoints along the
path to eternal life and every 

766
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,720
good thing between there and 
here. 

767
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,800
I hope you will join me then.
