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Hello and welcome to another 
episode of Not an actual episode

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of the winning Shopify Podcast 
that makes any sense. 

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It's Tuesday, and on Tuesday we 
don't do normal episodes. 

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I do a little solo episode and 
it's Week 2 and we're already 

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changing the name because 
someone called Jeff, sent us an 

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e-mail and said, hey, I've got 
an idea for this. 

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You're British, you must 
therefore drink tea. 

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Yes, I do. 
I'm holding a cup of tea in my 

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hand. 
So we're going to call this 

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Tuesday's Tea Break Talks, which
I think is quite a nice title. 

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He didn't come up with that. 
He just, Jeff just said you 

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should reference tea because tea
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He says I see what you're doing.
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kind of cup of tea I'm drinking.
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first time I've done one of 
these where we're drinking a cup

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of tea at the same time. 
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before we record to make sure 
I'm nicely hydrated and ready to

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go, but I have an English 
breakfast tea. 

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Not only that, one of our 
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And Paul, if you're watching, 
you'll love this Haven Knox 

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Johnson. 
I made it in the first cup I 

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grabbed. 
This is Buddy the Penguin. 

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If you can't see, I'm holding up
a cup with a big Penguin on it 

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called Buddy in there and it's 
Haven Knox Johnston who do boat 

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insurance here in the UK and 
across the EU and are one of our

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clients here at Spec my agency. 
And obviously I'm drinking 

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English breakfast tea, quick 
debate builders tea. 

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And if you're watching on 
Spotify or listening on Spotify,

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please leave a comment below. 
And if you're not, check out 

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Our Spotify audience is growing 

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like absolute wildfire at the 
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on the episodes on there. 
So you guys can have a little 

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chat while the episodes going on
while you're listening in. 

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So give us a little comment. 
Should a builders tea include 

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milk, yes or no Sugar, yes or 
no? 

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My vote, which is how I drink my
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I think builders tea, which is a
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other countries. 
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you say I'll have a builders 
tea, it's always now followed up

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by a question of like, what? 
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milk. 
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because that's the easiest, 
fastest thing. 

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without milk. 
Anyway, enough about tea. 

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Welcome to today's not episode. 
I keep trying to call it 

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episode. 
Today's Tuesday show, we are 

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going through a few bits and 
pieces throughout here. 

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I've got a whole load of notes 
on the screen in front of me 

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again, which I'm going to be 
going through while we're 

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talking. 
In fact, I'm going to talk 

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through them. 
We've got Shopify news, there's 

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some business loads of updates 
this week from Shopify. 

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They've been busy, busy, busy 
and there's some good 

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opportunities there. 
Something from one of our 

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partners, something very 
exciting to do with tax. 

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It's really boring and they do 
it for you. 

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Excellent, who wouldn't want 
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We've got some learnings, just 4
learnings this week from my 

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agency, 2 from the SEO team 
because last week I did loads on

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PPC and then a whole episode on 
PBC on Friday because it's from 

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Popular Demand. 
You guys wanting to know what 

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the rest of the list look like? 
And then a few people we chance 

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said, can we get some on SEO, 
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Google and search engines. 
Yeah, we've got some stuff on 

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SEO. 
And then I've got trivia. 

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Fun fact at the end, which I'm 
going to ask you guys a 

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question, you can see if you can
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But before all of that, I want 
to read out a quote from one of 

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my absolute legends. 
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previously quit the agency world
quite a while ago and they got 

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back involved in this. 
And while I'm doing so much in E

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comments, the moment is a guy 
called Alan Weiss. 

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I used to call him Weiss, but I 
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Weiss Alan and then it's Weiss. 
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He is one of the most successful
consultants in all history and I

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read one of his books, 
consultancy Bible and decided 

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this is for me. 
That's how I'm going to do 

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things now, really help 
businesses change, and really 

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get under the skin of a business
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problems are and how we can fix 
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I've got a great quote from his 
blog here which I subscribe to. 

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The goal isn't to work harder, 
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systems that scale your impact. 
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And we're going to certainly 
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the back end office stuff that 
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I'm going to reel off 123456789 
and I got a blank one at the end

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because obviously it enter and 
shouldn't have in my notes. 9 

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points from Shopify this week 
that Shopify themselves have 

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announced. 
These are all from Shopify. 

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A few last week by the sources. 
I thought we'll keep it to 

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Shopify just this week. 
You no longer need to get 

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payment app extensions approved 
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If you want to change payment 
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check out on Shopify, Shopify. 
The second one is Shopify 

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Sidekick, which is Shopify's AI 
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It now makes images and saves 
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which is quite cool. 
So definitely check that. 

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I had to play with those 
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record and they're they're quite
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I asked it to modify a product 
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exactly the same. 
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it in a new location. 
So really, really useful tool by

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the looks of it. 
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them will be the deciding factor
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use those. 
Third one, Shopify Tax now 

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handles VAT compliance in the EU
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For all other tax issues in the 
US, obviously called Tax Cloud 

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or sponsor. 
I'm going to talk about them a 

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bit later. 
They are the partner this week. 

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I mentioned tax and that is a 
shameless plug about them. 

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The next one is you can now 
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when processing returns. 
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You can still keep the sale, but
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You lose a bit of delivery cost,
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transactions. 
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Track inventory changes with new
adjusted adjustment history 

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reports which is quite good. 
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inventory itself, but sounds 
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track inventory better. 
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This is definitely for us in 
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You can now translate image alt 
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So previously if you had an 
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multiple language, you could 
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image. 
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German, French, English, and I 
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speaks the same language in 
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going to be Japanese. 
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ALT tag for each of the images, 
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My team been working quite hard 
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Since that's been released, 
discount codes from shareable 

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links can now combine with 
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So if you have a shareable link 
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everybody gets 10% off or £50 
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something like that, You can 
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10% off code if they're using 
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Last couple then manual payment 
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currency. 
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manual payments. 
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invoice check, it's only if you 
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you guys do wholesale, which I 
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lots of guests who've had on do 
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You can do multi currency in 
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And last one before I have a 
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Shopify e-mail now automatically
filters out bot generated 

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subscribers from an e-mail list.
We had an issue out on the spec 

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site recently where we had so 
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I thought wow over 1000 
enquiries and it was like no 995

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The quite easy to delete, but 
having that then filter out from

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your automatically filtering out
through shop by e-mail is 

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obviously it's super useful 
quick sip AD delicious if you're

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not watching. 
I had a lovely sip of tea. 

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As you probably said from what I
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I should start go and make a tea
hit pause. 

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Start this episode again. 
Listen to it with a cup of tea. 

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Let's all enjoy a cup of tea 
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Tea is so relaxing and it's only
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This is a great fact about tea. 
I found out recently from one of

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our clients that sells tea. 
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has a third of the caffeine that
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And I was like, oh, so coffee's 
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And they were like, no, that 
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as much tea as you can drink 
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And I love both. 
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battle there. 
But anyway, back to our list. 

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So partner news, I want to talk 
about tax cloud. 

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We've mentioned on the Friday 
episode, there would be one of 

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the pre roll ads in there about 
something they're doing at the 

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moment, which I'm going to tell 
you about in a moment. 

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If you haven't already used it. 
It's only for if you're in the 

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US, it sorts out all of your 
sales tax for you and does all 

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the reporting, which is the most
frustrating bit, reporting back 

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to every single state over 
certain conditions and and 

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criteria when you've reached a 
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And it's so such a faff. 
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out, especially you've only had 
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just above the threshold in one 
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Like so you're just above the 
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You gotta do we tax for North 
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Saguna have been a partner of us
for a while based in North 

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Carolina since the first place 
in the US keeps coming to my 

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mind when I think about 
partners, the tax cloud. 

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These guys can do that and 
especially if you're working on 

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something like we like we do. 
And I've been working on Google 

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Shopping since pretty much 
Google Shopping existed on 

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Google Shopping, we have to 
declare what our taxes and our 

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delivery costs and things to 
Google on top of the product. 

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So using tax cloud, you can have
all of that sorted for you, 

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which is which is brilliant. 
But most important filing those 

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returns for you. 
They, it's free to use tax cloud

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as well. 
By the way, it's $199 a year, 

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which is pretty cheap. 
So if you break that down by the

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by a month, it's less than 
$20.00 a month to use the next 

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plan out the paid one. 
But you can start from the free 

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one and see how good it is. 
But they are doing the most 

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awesome thing, which again, I 
would have mentioned on Friday 

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in one of the pre rolls. 
And check out their summer 

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school. 
It's a free video series built 

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to help you go deeper on the 
parts of your business that 

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enable you to scale efficiently.
We've been using the word 

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profitably as well recently, but
obviously it's slightly 

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different. 
You were looking at back office 

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so efficiently. 
One session every weekday from 

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the 28th of July until the 8th 
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Just go to taxcloud.com. 
All one word Tax 

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cloud.com/summer. 
If you talk to Tax Cloud though,

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mention us, you can go to 
taxcloud.com/winning and if you 

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are going to use them, you get a
free migration onboarding when 

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you switch if you came through 
us as well. 

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So definitely going to check out
Tax Cloud. 

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I, I hate it, genuinely hate it 
when businesses are bottlenecked

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and throttled by some of the 
back end things when you should 

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be spending your time on 
marketing, customer service, 

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learning what products sell, 
what products don't sell and 

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actually moving the business 
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And I, I certainly all of the 
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code them going. 
Is this helping grow and further

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my business like working my 
staff, working my clients, 

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finding new clients, etcetera? 
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is wasting my time? 
The formalities that waste my 

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time, I get rid of them as quick
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Think can somebody else do this 
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over to my to my PA or 
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I would like to say updates. 4 
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I thought would be useful to 
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can go and check yourself and 
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PPCSEO. 
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not heard of Core Web vitals in 
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a free tool from Google. 
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Numpty go set up. 
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with the day you set it up it 
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usability checks and it's the 
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button. 
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rankings have been just slowly 
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position on average every sort 
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three. 
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three, page 4 onwards, the stuff
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it's the stuff, the opportunity 
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Second one on SEO is backlinks. 
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And links need to drive traffic.
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things I want to share on this 
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It's one point with an A and AB.
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I was my notes. 
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links. 
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doesn't exist or say it was a 
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that link. 
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that. 
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change it, what you change it 
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site that we pitch to where we 
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these endorsements of your site 
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authentic site. 
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within the description. 
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It's one of the most trusted 
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landing on a four O 4 quick 
change and bang rankings went up

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once we once we fixed that. 
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backlinks 2B is disavow reports,
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And you say to Google, we've 
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their site to ours, but we 
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can't control their website, we 
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We had a client a few months ago
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the time, but I had a quick look
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Well, they went from 18 out of 
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They had 18 out of 100 score and
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about a client and we had a 
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Performance Max, but Performance
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AI machine learning engine. 
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revenue, this much for every 
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this many dollars back. 
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tripled with three times as much
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P Max. 
Excuse me? 

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It's one thing about tea is if 
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into detail in case someone's 
eating right now. 

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My wife would tell me off and 
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ROI in that first week. 
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APPC manager, you want to hold 
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what happens in week 3. 
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morning or Monday afternoon. 
Sorry, this I'm recording this. 

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Just check the stats from 
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It looks like it started coming 
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So we always get these 
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change in an account that 
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really good sign. 
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dropped we just need to get a 
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modifying that campaign as well,
adding negative search terms 

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modifying which products are 
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potentially into smaller 
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want to upset it too much. 
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nerve and gone, I'm not going to
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And the next week's a really 
good week. 

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And it's like, good, I didn't 
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Let's get some more data in and 
decide what we do next. 

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And excuse me, my hay fever is 
terrible. 

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If I suddenly need to sneeze in 
a minute. 

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And the final one on PPC then 
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week, we yeah, we should 
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If you've got any name ideas for
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guys, send the names in like 
Jeff, thank you so much. 

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Absolutely legend. 
I don't know what business 

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you're from, Jeff. 
It was just a Gmail account. 

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Thank you. 
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multiple brands we've audited 
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Get this new search term report 
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So we looked one last week and I
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show or not, Ben, but if you do,
you know this is about you, Ben.

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We spoke to you on Friday and 
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moment. 
I thought we'll include that in 

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the show. 
That was quite a big point and 

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what we showed Ben on this 
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and audit and Ben is going to 
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sure of it. 
Hint, if you're listening, the 

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search terms and negatives, we 
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for healthy lunch ideas and a 
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term spending a pretty chunky 
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And his business provides 
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So it wasn't even e-commerce 
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But if you're not looking at 
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an agency and you want to go and
have a little prior and see what

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the agency's up to, definitely 
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report because you'll probably 
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really unrelated. 
And if they're not dealing with 

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that, they're being lazy and 
they're not checking things well

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enough and they're just wasting 
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stuff which Google more than 
happy to get some money from you

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guys showing you for search 
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which most people were not going
to want to bid on healthy lunch 

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ideas. 
So good to good to get rid of 

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that. 
Look at this 16 minutes in, it's

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probably slightly shorter. 
One's invited to this as well. 

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I'm doing great. 20 minutes is 
my limit. 

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Anyway, fun fact, I'm going to 
give you a second to try and 

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think of this or how a 
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guesstimate. 
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a guest. 
OK, so in 2022 Shopify had 5.13,

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so $5.13 trillion go through 
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and all the other things it 
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So 5.13 trillion in 2022. 
What do you think the revenue 

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This is from Shopify's own site.

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What do you think the revenue 
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So 2 years later last year. 
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about say 5.13 trillion in 2022.
How much revenue went Shopify in

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2024? 
Annual consevity? 

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Why you think about OK, so the 
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So it's grown by just shy of 20%
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And As for a platform the size 
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insane. 
I also had a look, there's some 

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conflicting stats on this. 
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release a stand on this I could 
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Some places are saying that 
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all USE commerce stores. 
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all e-commerce stores in the US.
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between those two. 
But either way it's growing. 

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If you're sitting here listening
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I want to use Shopify. 
We're stuck on another platform,

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insert other platform here or we
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worse because then everything 
you do, you have to pay a 

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developer to change. 
You can't do much yourself. 

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And depends how they built it 
obviously. 

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But yeah, if you want to move to
Shopify and you're unsure about 

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it, feel free to send us an 
e-mail. 

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You can send me an e-mail 
directly nick@winningshopify.com

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or hello at winning shopify.com,
my team to pick it up. 

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And yeah, send us an e-mail and 
just say, look, I'm on this 

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platform. 
These are the reasons people 

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don't want to move to Shopify. 
There might be a reason we can 

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help you move or I might 
actually come back and just 

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justify stop crying. 
You need to stay on that 

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platform for those reasons that 
you've mentioned there. 

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Happy to give a bit of advice on
that. 

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I hope you found today useful. 
I remember next week, if you 

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haven't already, get a cup of 
tea. 

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It's such an enjoyable show if 
you're having a cup of tea as 

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well and you can be sipping 
along and taking notes of all 

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the great things that we're 
sharing on here. 

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But thank, thanks so much to my 
team for giving some of these 

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notes over some of the learnings
from the agency. 

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And thank you for Jeff for 
renaming this. 

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And yeah, we'll see again next 
week on Tuesday. 

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And if you haven't already, this
first time you've ever found us,

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Fridays, we post our main 
episode with guests. 

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It was just me last week, so it 
was a bit of a cheat week. 

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But this week we've got a guest 
coming in as well. 

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So make sure you tune in on 
Friday for that. 

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And if you want to get any more 
information, check out our 

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website, wwwwspodcast.com. 
Thanks. 

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Tuning in. 
See you again next Tuesday for 

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more tea and talks.
