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Hello and welcome to another 
episode of the Winning with 

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Shopify podcast. 
Well, is it another episode? 

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No, it's not. 
Interesting times ahead. 

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Tuesdays we're going to start 
posting a talk Tuesday or 

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Tuesday talks. 
I've got the name wrong on the 

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very, very first thing I've 
said. 

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Tuesday talks are calling it and
it's just going to be me talking

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on a Tuesday. 
It's quite simple. 

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And we were playing around with 
my surname as well. 

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Truman. 
Tuesday talks, we're just going 

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to call it Tuesday talks. 
I'm not that big headed when we 

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are doing a solo little midweek 
episode to bring your all things

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Shopify. 
We're going to add in. 

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I've got a little agenda for 
today as well and we're going to

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add in all things Shopify. 
In fact, the agenda's on my 

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screen up here. 
So we're going to talk about a 

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motivating quote. 
This is how we're going to kick 

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off every week. 
I'm going to kick it off in a 

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minute. 
Shopify news and updates as much

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as the e-commerce world. 
It's a bit of an update as to 

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like what's going on some of the
stuff we're reading so you don't

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have to filter through and be 
like where are the opportunities

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right now? 
We're going to bring this 

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straight to you guys. 
We're going to talk about what 

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some of our sponsors and 
partners are up to. 

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We'll talk about some of our own
events. 

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There's only one in the diary 
right now, only one physical 

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one, which is in London is 
coming up to talk about that. 

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Some cool learnings from one of 
my teams in my agency. 

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There's a few things we're going
to share from last week. 

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I think we have, if I just check
in my notes here, we've got four

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things we're sharing. 
They're actually about 30. 

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They put four and I thought 30's
too much. 

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We're trying to keep these 
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And then we're going to finish 
with fact of the week, a fun 

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fact about Shopify. 
So these little snippet episodes

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on Tuesdays, we're never going 
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as I'm planning to, and we're 
going to keep them going just so

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long as I can be bothered to do 
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I'm joking. 
It's mostly about diary 

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management and not because I'm 
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I'm just bad at diary management
at times and I'm very bad at 

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keeping up the same sort of 
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That's why I'm a good sort of 
CEO business owner as opposed to

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someone that has to do the same 
thing over and over every day. 

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Anyway, enough about my 
failures. 

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So firstly, written on the iPad 
of Glory today is Quote of the 

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week. 
I thought we'd kick off with 

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Winston Churchill. 
This one's really stuck with me 

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the last few months, especially 
with all the turbulence that's 

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going on globally and in the 
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It's been no exception at all to
the turbulence. 

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I think we've actually 
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experienced more over the last 
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especially in the UK market and 
starting to over the last sort 

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of 12 months in the US market as
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experienced during COVID. 
And a lot of people couldn't go 

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to a shop during COVID, say 
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This is hitting us, I would say 
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But when we go into the news 
headlines in a minute, there are

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some big opportunities out 
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But anyway, the quote from 
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not final, failure is not fatal.
It is the courage to continue 

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that count. 
I will read that again. 

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Success is not final. 
Failure is not fatal. 

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It is the courage to continue 
that count. 

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Winston Churchill was a very 
wise man. 

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And if you've not read up on 
him, Oh my gosh, he's an 

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absolute hero of Britain and 
absolutely worth reading up 

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about him. 
But having read this, it's stuck

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with me. 
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especially about the courage to 
continue that count, that when I

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hear the word courage, and this 
is all part of my mind trying to

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take more of a positive approach
to things in the last five years

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where it used to be quite 
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positive approach to things. 
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courage rather than struggles or
whatever, that positive language

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of courage makes me feel 
genuinely like, let's go and do 

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this thing. 
Let's keep going. 

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Let's have the courage to to 
carry on Section 2 then. 

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So let's talk about some Shopify
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And this is from some of my 
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I use the few AI bots to find 
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And also I've I've subscribed to
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writing things down over the 
last week as they've been coming

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in. 
So there's a few from Shopify 

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initially. 
First one is that there's been a

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lot of chat about Black Friday, 
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whatever you want to call it. 
And then obviously heading into 

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peak, if you haven't already, 
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You do not want to be making up 
your strategy during Black 

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Friday. 
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they would like to admit do 
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You don't need to at the time of
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of July. 
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earlier than the 15th of July. 
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So let's play catch up and, and 
and get a get a strategy in 

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place there. 
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Shopify, this is quite 
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A lot of you guys have reached 
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We've been surprised how many of
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When we started, well, I said 
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podcast, which would have been 
five years ago now I don't 

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really look old enough to be 
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years ago, the obviously I look 
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But five years ago when I 
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surprised how many we thought it
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to consumer, direct to consumer 
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But actually a lot of you guys 
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you. 
B to B stores can now Access 

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Bank transfers, checks, still a 
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We don't really touch paper 
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We do touch bank transfers 
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for you on B to B. 
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international wires. 
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international wires within 
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company. 
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One of the biggest things we've 
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our clients have in the B to B 
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on invoice. 
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because they've got a credit 
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they're a safe pair of hands 
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Send that stuff straight out and
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that's how businesses operate. 
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$1,000,000 worth of kit. 
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that on a credit card. 
Imagine the cash back, it'd be 

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$5000 in cash back at 1%. 
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Anyway, those are available in 
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Shopify is the third one. 
Shopify Now have launched a 

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three month trial for just 
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You go to shopify.com/free 
Hyphen trial. 

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We are not endorsed at all by 
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I just think that's a great 
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And I've written in my notes 
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The excuses end now. 
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starting a store, you've got 
three months for just a single 

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dollar. 
So go and sign up. 

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Once you've finished today's 
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up a store, start playing with 
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start working out how you're 
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you've been planning for so 
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Because we don't want passengers
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So go in there, go and get 
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Digital commerce 360 have 
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article. 
Amazon Prime event has spurred 

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on a $7.9 billion in U.S. sales.
Get this on day one. 

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So you know, Amazon do their 
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$7.9 billion. 
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with someone about this. 
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councils, they announce a budget
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oh, it's going to be billions or
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struggle to even imagine that 
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When you say 7.9 billion in U.S.
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Prime event, you just that's a 
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it? 
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Amazon, you are missing out. 
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growing and very much important 
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Next one down. 
And I thought there's some 

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interesting news out there, 
Mexico business news. 

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And then the article's actually 
about France, and this is really

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interesting. 
And forgive me, there's at least

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three pronunciations to this 
brand, but France has fined, I'm

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going to call them Shein or 
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they've been fined $47 million 
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We are very, very hot on this in
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If we think something is 
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someone says, oh, it's half 
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price. 
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and say that's that's 
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There are laws and rules around 
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misleading sales. 
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cracked the whip here $47 
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So worth taking that with a 
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going what are my offers and are
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Are they misleading? 
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right offer just thinking about 
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Well, three more so Premier 
Construction News again, random 

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news outlet, but talking about 
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com order values. 
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volumes, values volumes, sorry, 
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Order volumes are up 18% Q2 this
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I was not surprising, sorry, I 
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that. 
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tell I've I'm very tired today 
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but very surprised there up so 
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I, I thought it was going to be 
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being wrong when I think it's 
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So it's been a really good year 
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Last couple then. 
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described tariffs as traumatic. 
Very interesting article. 

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Very much worth a read over 
there and startups.co.uk lovely.

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I've actually featured on that 
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E com has outpaced the High 
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It didn't actually say where, 
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going to assume the UK, but it 
does reference a couple of US 

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brands as well. 
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uplifting news, but also some of
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and also looking at Amazon Prime
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Hopefully some good learnings 
for you guys there as well. 

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I mentioned the next part of 
this, then there's going to be a

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couple of partners. 
So two, we're putting in a 

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spotlight today. 
One of them is Yost. 

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If you didn't catch Yost's 
episode, they're one of our 

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sponsors. 
They were on a few weeks ago. 

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Yost is the most used plug in on
WordPress and as far as we're 

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aware, and last time they 
counted was the exact words they

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used on the show, They were the 
most used website plug in in the

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world, the most used plugin in 
the world. 

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They now have a Shopify plugin. 
I love it because it's all about

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SEO and it helps you Shopify 
store rank better on Google. 

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You can get 15% off for life on 
either Shopify or WordPress and 

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it's WWS 15. 
So that's winning Shopify 15, 

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but it's WWS 15 is the code that
you need to use. 

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And the second one as well as 
Covella. 

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I know a few of you guys have 
reached out to Covella since an 

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episode we had them on recently.
With everything going on 

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globally at the moment, it's 
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You can get up to 40% or sorry, 
the average saving is 40% on 

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your stock costs. 
So say you were selling these 

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T-shirts, you spend 40% less 
stocking these T-shirts. 

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Plus you can use their their 
product finding or supplier 

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finding system, which will save 
you a huge amount of time 

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digging through Alibaba or 
flying out to China and Vietnam 

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visiting factories and that kind
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They will do that for you. 
And then they put their own 

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It's a half price product sample
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If you use the code winning when
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that signed up, we know you came
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the code winning. 
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Winning fun and a bit of news 
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London. 
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the 4th of September at Molly. 
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speakers yet, but I will mention
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weeks as they are announced. 
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confirm. 
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that we are talking to. 
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We're just trying to work out 
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So 4th of September in London, 
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and there's gonna be a few 
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There's going to be pizzas and 
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sorts. 
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night and there's also a balcony
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London, we will look out of the 
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inside interior, right? 
There are a few things I want to

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share from our agency and I hope
these things spark some ideas 

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from you guys. 
We're going to put these in 

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every week and we're going to 
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We're going to start with PPC 
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Haven't decided what we're doing
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Not that you did anyway. 
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back to me with, as I say, with 
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I whittled it down to 26. 
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them this week and I might save 
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But these are interesting 
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data, which has now LED them to 
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change, tactic change, and there
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data. 
So thought actually if we shared

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some of these things, it would 
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You can go and look at your own 
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there's anything striking enough
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exciting or that's interesting, 
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been wasted. 
What a disaster. 

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Well, now you know and you can 
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So the first thing is that on 
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personalized jewellery, only one
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CAR actually got purchased. 
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CAR are not purchased. 
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moment. 
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and one's had quite a nice 
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how many products were in their 
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thousands upon thousands of 
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to cart because this site has so
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able to find it again. 
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customers land on one of our 
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beautiful NAV and we have SEO 
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actually I'm going to buy, I was
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totally unrelated, but actually 
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of perfume or perfume by gender 
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thing they want. 
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client's site is really, really 
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bring up collections, products, 
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The third thing we've learnt 
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users click on, they don't tend 
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PPC team came out with these, 
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on a product on Google Shopping,
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into a brand, we say to people, 
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show us what a customer do and 
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page and we're like, OK, fine, 
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around. 
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and again, this is all about the
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tells you what's wrong, what's 
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SEO, well, it's probably been 
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collections. 
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products. 
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tell them about your brand, 
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land? 
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not quite right. 
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variants, the sizes and other 
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What order you put things in a 
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completely different. 
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interesting when we're looking 
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have clicked on these products, 
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things that people had clicked 
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had actually bought, the trends 
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they actually wanted to 
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this product is made of glass. 
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electricity. 
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I'm just going to call the blue 
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actually I don't want a lamp. 
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I love this brand. 
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blue's the accent of my lounge. 
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on the right brand, the wrong 
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conversion, I love this, when 
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higher on Google Ads. 
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$20 per conversion on Campaign 
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conversion on Campaign B, 
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More expensive sales are worth 
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value is really good. 
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be making the wrong decisions. 
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money at $3000 per garden 
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those things really, really 
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campaign, don't shy away from 
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To finish off then fact of the 
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So the fact of the week, this 
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thing that Shopify ever did, the
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at Shopify ever did before 
letting people build e-commerce 

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sites is that they were selling,
they made their own store and 

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they were selling surfboards. 
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ago saying just over 10 years, 
Shopify has become what it is 

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today. 
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e-commerce store. 
They obviously built a really, 

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really good back end platform 
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What a crazy amount of growth 
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I hope you've enjoyed today 
Friday. 

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We will have a guest on with a 
full length episode and I'll be 

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back again next Tuesday. 
If you have any cool facts, cool

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bits and news, any amazing 
quotes or anything you've been 

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learning that you want me to 
share as well. 

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I'd love to shout out some 
brands on these on these little 

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Tuesday ones. 
So please do reach out. 

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Otherwise I won't be I won't be 
asking for volunteers. 

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I'll be forcing volunteers 
forward. 

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Obviously I'm, I'm joking. 
Have an amazing week. 

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See you guys on Friday.
