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Hello and welcome to another 
episode, the Winning with 

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Shopify podcast. 
If you've not seen him before, 

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my name is Nick and it doesn't 
always look this lovely look 

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where I am, I'm in a different 
room. 

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I'm still in the spec 
headquarters here in Surrey in 

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the United Kingdom, just near 
London, but I was normally in a 

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cupboard and the cupboard has 
now become an actual cupboard. 

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We're still meeting room, but 
I've moved into a new space, 

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hence these beautiful chairs. 
You might have seen it in a 

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recent episode as well. 
We're going to be doing more 

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face to face episodes and I 
thought I'd just turn this whole

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space into a new studio because 
actually my team don't use this 

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space that often. 
Maybe just for lunch. 

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Anyway, enough about me. 
Hope you guys are all doing 

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well. 
Black Friday has finished. 

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It's gone. 
In fact, I'm recording this on 

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Monday the 8th of December. 
This is on my calendar, so we'll

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go with that. 
Monday the 8th of December and 

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Cyber Monday's just gone as 
well. 

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We are still waiting for some of
the stats to come out. 

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Shopify. 
There's a few that have been 

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released, but I'm going to be 
sharing some of those over the 

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next couple of weeks. 
I've also got a very special 

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outfit next week. 
This is me desperately trying to

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get people to watch this rather 
than just listen. 

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So please come and check out my 
festive outfit. 

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Anyway, let's talk about Tuesday
tea break talks. 

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Are we changing the format 
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I am drinking a ginger tea that 
is not changed. 

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I drink a lot of ginger tea, but
ginger is really good for 

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digestion of just a very large 
client lunch. 

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So we're drinking a ginger tea 
stay, but we changed the format 

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a little bit. 
We're going to focus in on 

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something every week. 
We've done a little bit of that 

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the last couple of weeks and the
feedback from you guys has been 

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it's been much more beneficial 
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So I'm going to be commenting on
stuff Dun Dun Dun have to see 

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what happens. 
It could be quite exciting. 

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So the new format is going to be
quote or fact of the week. 

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And I actually got about 15 
quotes this week, but I'll 

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explain why in a SEC. 
Their ideas for you guys, and I 

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think I've explained it, their 
ideas for you guys. 

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We're going to have a big topic 
we're going to talk about. 

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And today you've probably seen 
in the title as well, today's 

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big topic I'm going to be 
talking about is that shopping 

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habits are changing, which 
creates opportunities to get 

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ahead. 
So we're going to talk about 

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what those opportunities are and
how those shopping habits have 

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changed and what we're expecting
to change next year #spoiler 

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Alert AI, right? 
And then we're going to talk 

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about a few bits from the agency
as well. 

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And there's something's come up 
from a few leads we've had this 

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week, so I'm going to talk about
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And then we're going to have the
equivia at the end as well, 

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which is a question about a 
beast of trivia. 

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How exciting. 
So I mentioned Cyber Monday, 

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Black Friday have all gone. 
They've finished for the year. 

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Some of us are crying relief, 
some are crying. 

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Bring them back. 
The sales were fantastic. 

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I want more sales through my 
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What's going to happen next? 
We're into holiday season, but 

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it's too late to prepare for 
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It's the 9th of December. 
You'll be watching this at the 

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absolute earliest. 
So holiday season is already 

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upon us. 
So what's next? 

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Well, January sales or a lot of 
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So I've used AI not to come up 
with this because it would put 

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the word elevate in every other 
thing that it came back with, 

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which would be really awkward. 
But we've used AI just to grab 

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some winter tag lines, sale tag 
lines and campaign tag lines 

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from a range of retailers across
the across the world from 2020. 

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Five. 
I was going to say 2024 since 

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last year. 
It's this year, but it was 

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January this year, so it's 
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Yeah, I'm very tired. 
I'm a new parent and it's middle

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winter and I've had a horrible 
cold, so sorry if I don't sound 

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my normal bubbly self. 
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Anyway, So winter sale tagline 
ideas and thanks to AI too. 

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I use Grok, which is a bit like 
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Elon Musk's little thing. 
I don't know how to be chatting 

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about the podcast. 
Anyway, I use Grok. 

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I find it much better than most 
of the other ones. 

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These are some cool tag lines 
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inspiration from a might want to
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I always find that when you just
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and good marketing is 
entertaining so make it insane 

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and come out saying a bit more 
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These are some good ideas. 
Chill out with cool savings. 

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Cold weather outside, hot deals 
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Slay the savings spell like 
sleigh bells. 

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So SLEIGH. 
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different spelling I don't think
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Slay the savings this winter 
it's our flipping festive sale. 

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That's quite cool as well 
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making kits. 
So it's flipping festive, so 

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cool. 
And ski into big savings. 

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Sorry, say again ski into big 
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The reason for the season. 
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The new year stands before us 
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to be written, which is good for
new purchases or especially got 

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a product. 
It's a bit of a new year new me 

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that can be that can be quite 
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Winter sale now on got the 
lowest rating but the most used.

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How ironic, Not easy to stand 
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Just don't go for that winter 
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sale again, quite boring. 
Bundle up and save. 

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Big, quite boring, cosy up to 
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Cosying's quite good, especially
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It's cold in the winter in the 
northern hemisphere if you're in

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Australia. 
I find it so weird you guys out 

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in ounces wearing Christmas hats
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So bizarre. 
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Christmas hat. 
It's just like this is very, 

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very odd. 
And finally, 1 Winter is coming,

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so is our winter sale, which is 
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show anyway. 
So those are some good ideas for

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you guys. 
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week, I thought I'd get lots of 
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lines they're going for. 
So keep it creative, make it fun

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and do something a bit more than
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And it also doesn't have to be 
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This could be like your winter 
survival essentials and it could

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be like hand warmers for, you 
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something like that. 
So we're going to talk a little 

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bit about shopping habits that 
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bit of an opportunity for you 
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I'm going to split this into a 
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AI is obviously going to be in 
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We're going to talk about video,
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more than more than one way. 
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authenticity. 
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about something that was very 
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retailers. 
And then it died a very quick 

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and very painful death for a lot
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Not everyone, but a lot of 
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And it's made a comeback is back
baby is what I wrote in my 

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notes. 
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because it's drinkable, it's 
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that whilst you're being 
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not drinkable, you burn yourself
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It is drinkable. 
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drinkable, but it is very, very 
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So thank you Bean Shop for the 
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Oh, sorry, this isn't a Bean 
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but Bean Shop have sent me lots 
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So thank you Lorna. 
I'll be drinking those again 

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next week in my festive outfit. 
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So let's talk about AI first. 
There's lots of ways AI plays a 

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part in e-commerce. 
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people, I, I keep saying to 
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what's the first thing comes to 
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And they say ChatGPT and I'm 
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products. 
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stuff in the back end. 
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there are lots of different ways
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the retail experience. 
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about, which is specifically for
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personalisation. 
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well known phrase recently. 
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put slash dynamic content, say 
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experience and the content that 
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on someone's previous buying 
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So AI search on site can be used
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much more from a site search. 
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default one or the default one 
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something on the site right now.
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isn't very good, you're probably
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You can set up a report in GA 4 
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So you can see how many people 
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to decide how much of an issue 
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finding products or finding 
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products. 
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really important. 
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flag about shopping habits 
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expect to see much more 
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of time about a product. 
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customers from all the data I 
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more information and learn more 
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space of time. 
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I've seen so many pictures, 
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weekend of somebody's grandma 
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picture of them completely 
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picture move a little bit. 
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the cheeks. 
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smile in the picture. 
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seeing something come to life. 
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That was amazing. 
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marketing. 
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product, you can animate the 
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which is quite, you can change 
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product movements. 
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pictures of, for example, I, I 
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motion pictures. 
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like the picture of a box and 
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another flap opened, another 
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and the box kind of rotated 
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opened. 
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appeared at the side of the box,
The box disappeared and then the

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product very gradually, bit by 
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I gave that to AI and it made 
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someone's hand picking the 
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you and it wasn't completely 
accurate, but I only gave it one

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prompt, which is turn the stop 
motion pictures into a video and

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it did and it did it really, 
really quickly. 

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It was a paid tool I was using 
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It wasn't just like ChatGPT 
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You're probably going to get a 
good result on some of the free 

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ones. 
You need that server capacity to

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properly render a decent video, 
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movements or even taking static 
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using AI to smoothen them a bit,
Turn it into a GIF so people can

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actually see this product in 360
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Things like that. 
People want to really see and 

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get to know the product as much 
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making a purchase. 
Little quick note, a footnote on

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AI quickly. 
I've had I think 3, maybe 4 

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conversations with clients last 
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like, what's our AI strategy? 
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And I sort of said, well, we're 
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AI. 
We've had, there's one client we

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saw face to face for a meeting 
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Perplexity, Gemini, Grok, all 
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I haven't seen a site yet. 

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retail site that has 
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ChatGPT and things. 
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If you spend loads of time and 

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money and you've got a whole AI 
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marketing agencies, there's not 
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People want to watch, especially
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that sofa wearing that item of 
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drops on the on the model. 
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use this to make what's called 
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somebody wearing different 
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it's a product for a truck. 
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the trucks. 
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truck's got this one and there's
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This truck's got this one, 
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through a site, it's like, you 
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video? 
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go on the video guy starts 
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for and go, oh, the blue one 
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you're using a lot of this now 
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phone. 
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measurement just by your natural
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or these chairs behind me and 
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are going to look like in, in 
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I'm going to go and sit on that 
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goodbye by just to show you guys
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So many people have asked me 
today while I've been using this

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new setup on client calls like 
Nick, that's an amazing virtual 

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background. 
Can you send me a copy? 

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And I'm like, no, touch these 
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augmented reality to make this 
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But no, it's a real background. 
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after effects of me sitting in a
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Authenticity is the key is my 
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So things that have we, we've 
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that have driven more conversion
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Things like reviews, things like
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especially, I don't know about 
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products now that have 10,000 
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So I can see lots of videos of 
people actually using the 

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product I bought. 
I mean totally trivia random 

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product. 
I bought some lights for my 

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garage that were USBC 
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You literally just take two 
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two metal pads and then the 
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on a thing. 
I drive my car into the garage 

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and as I drive the car into the 
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the car goes further into the 
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And they cost like 20 lbs each. 
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I watched videos and looked at 
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were, video of how easy it was 
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and videos of how much light was
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And I thought, do you know what?
I've got a decent sized garage. 

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I'm going to need three of 
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So again, that review content is
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across all of them. 
Unboxing videos are amazing. 

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One thing I, I read a study 
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I read this, but they had tested
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So take my glasses, which I take
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lights in the studio and these 
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someone's hand holding these 
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well, nearly everybody's got 
hands tries to be inclusive here

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on the podcast, nearly 
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I've even seen it where like for
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company. 
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with a sofa company last year. 
I said last year, it's still 

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2025 this year and working with 
them and one of the biggest 

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things we flagged when we first 
pitched was you have no people 

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sitting on any of these 
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It's 120 centimeters high and 

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you get a tape measure at 120 
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great sized sofa. 
Like it's for my, I bought 2 new

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sofas for the office next door 
in the main room and it was like

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great, I've got a couple of 
sofas here that I can see people

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sitting on them. 
You can't fit three people on 

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them, but I just want 2 sofas 
for two people each and a coffee

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table in the middle. 
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So again, that photography isn't
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authenticity of someone holding 
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especially motion motion capture
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It's fantastic. 
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and I've got a couple of small 
bits of news that going on to do

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with Shopify. 
Well, one's not news 1's that 

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there's no news subscriptions. 
This is the thing that 

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disappeared and died and not for
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But I'm making a comeback. 
The thing I've found more 

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interesting with subscriptions 
in more recent months is I've 

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seen quite a few brands where 
when I've bought the product, I 

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was not offered a subscription. 
It was like just buy this 

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product. 
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they've done an AB test to say 
if we don't offer subscription, 

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more people just buy. 
So actually, if more people just

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buy, we're just going to sell 
more of them. 

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And you know what, we'll talk 
about subscriptions later. 

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We'll say if you want to 
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price. 
So if you've got 2 to one ROI on

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Google Ads, you're basically 
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profit on the 1st order or break
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But now they're on subscription.
So order 3 onwards, we're making

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money. 
It's really important to run 

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your numbers on this and other 
news then things that are going 

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on. 
I'm sorry, I've got 2 examples 

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in this as well. 
So I can't see that. 

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My glasses you see and two 
examples, one is adding 

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insurance to your product that's
could be on a monthly 

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subscription and the second one 
is extended warranty. 

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A third one which is jumped to 
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Similarly, insurance would be as
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well then you've got 
opportunities to message them 

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about their finance every month.
So your balance is currently 

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there. 
So what you're really doing is 

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going remember us, you bought a 
watch strap from us. 

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Do you want some glasses case or
a phone case? 

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All the other things that we do 
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you bought. 
Again, any reason to engage with

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people is really, really 
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We say that a lot on the show. 
Finally, other news. 

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So Shopify's in code freeze, 
which is why there's been no 

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more updates. 
I put in brackets. 

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Boo is actually a really, really
good thing from an IT technical 

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perspective. 
You do not want to be rolling. 

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It's called code freezing. 
We're not going to change any of

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the features during Black Friday
Peak. 

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A lot of brands do this. 
It's actually a good time as 

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well, I think for IT teams to 
start looking at like in 

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processes and other stuff 
internally. 

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I don't know if Shopify didn't 
know. 

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I'm not close enough to them, 
but they're in code freeze, 

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which is why there's not really 
been that many updates. 

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I think mid November, I think it
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November was the last big update
they did. 

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However, they did a blog post 
the other day. 

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I'll be keeping an eye on their 
blog, which is quite 

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interesting. 
And one of the things they put 

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on the blog is that the biggest 
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this is not the Quivia. 
But have a quick thing about 

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that. 
We'll have another sip of my 

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delicious ginger tea. 
I'm sorry Lauren, I'll be 

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drinking your tea again next 
week. 

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It is delicious. 
So the biggest day of the year. 

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It's not Black Friday, it's not 
Cyber Monday, it's not going to 

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do any of that. 
It's not even 2 days before 

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Christmas Eve when most are 
going to be really sexist as a 

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man and say most men go and buy 
presents for wife I I once very 

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embarrassingly on Christmas Day.
I'll tell you the answer in a 

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SEC. 
The funny story, Christmas Day, 

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my mother-in-law opened a 
product on Christmas Day and I 

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looked over and thought, Oh no. 
And then I looked at my 

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father-in-law and just muttered 
to him Amazon gifts for her 

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under 20 lbs. 
And he kind of nodded looking 

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very worried. 
And I like looked down at the 

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floor where there was another 
very similar shaped present for 

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my wife. 
I was like, there we go. 

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And fortunately they're all very
polite and said like how funny 

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you both got the same present, 
but we both know exactly what 

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happened. 
Anyway, the busiest day of the 

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year, not for everyone, but for 
a lot of retailers, the busiest 

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day of the year by miles and 
it's by quite some way is Boxing

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Day. 
So although Boxing Day, no one's

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in the office, warehouses aren't
distributing products, such an 

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opportunity to be making sales. 
We have a lot of clients where 

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we play, in fact probably almost
all of our retail clients. 

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We plan Boxing Day in advance 
and we as an agency, we get up 

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early on boxing. 
Well, not early, but sorry, but 

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Boxing Day by 9:00 AM, we 
switched all the ads over. 

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We have them automatically 
switching and we've checked them

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all to make sure on Boxing Day 
with all of our sales live. 

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One of the clients we used to 
work with was a clothing brand 

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and Boxing Day equated to over 
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What an anxiety for the entire 
marketing team getting to 

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Christmas Day and going if we 
don't make 35% or more of our 

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revenue tomorrow, we've not had 
a successful year. 

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It literally was that important.
It was very, very scary. 

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So that's Boxing Day. 
Got a few other little bits. 

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Just another thing that came up 
last week. 

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This was a bit random because I 
hadn't had this for a while. 

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I'd have one or two over the 
last few months, but we had not 

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one, not 2, but three brands. 
And you guys know who you are 

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because two of you said you 
listened to the podcast and one 

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of you guys I'm seeing on 
Friday. 

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00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,760
So I'll see you guys then. 
I'm very, very much looking 

452
00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,840
forward to this. 
But three brands, three brands 

453
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,640
reach out to us and say we've 
been growing, growing, growing. 

454
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,000
We've hit a shelf. 
We just can't grow anymore. 

455
00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:49,840
One's got to 1,000,000 turnover 
per year and can't grow anymore.

456
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,560
One's got to 10 and one's got to
about 1819. 

457
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,160
They did 19 two years ago and 
they did 18 last year. 

458
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,120
They're on for 18 this year, 
£1,000,000 or, or one's 

459
00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:00,120
American, which is why we're not
why we're not meeting those 

460
00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,440
guys, but they the American guys
especially obviously even 

461
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,040
dollars, but they've hit a 
shelf. 

462
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,560
So I'm just going to list out a 
few of the things that we attack

463
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,120
as a PPCSEO agency. 
We attack for that kind of 

464
00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:12,720
situation because it's, it's a 
beautiful problem for some of 

465
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,160
you, but you are going to hit it
at some point. 

466
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520
And this actually might unlock 
you getting to that problem in 

467
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,520
the 1st place. 
So some of the things we look at

468
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,160
#1 is new markets. 
And that's not just geographic 

469
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,560
markets like Shopify, Shopify 
Markets, incredible ballet. 

470
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,520
You want to launch 
internationally, you must go on 

471
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,680
Google and type in Shopify 
Markets search and click on the 

472
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,680
1st result. 
Shopify Markets, obviously not 

473
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,680
the ads. 
Shopify Markets is fantastic. 

474
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,440
You want to use that for 
creating your international 

475
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,880
store. 
It's very, if you set up 

476
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,000
correctly, it's very, very good 
for SEO and lots of other things

477
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,280
as well. 
I might change your mind in it 

478
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,800
if you're watching this in a 
year's time, might change your 

479
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,000
mind. 
But when we say new markets, it 

480
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,680
could be that, which is actually
my Third Point in here as well. 

481
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,080
It's alternative use for the 
same product or a different way 

482
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,200
that people shop that product. 
And so a new market might be 

483
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,600
that like, OK, we, we make 
equipment for trucks. 

484
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,680
Isn't that same example from 
earlier? 

485
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,840
Actually we're going to try and 
get into truck fleets now. 

486
00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:58,720
So we're going to contact 
companies that have lots of 

487
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,200
Rangers, for example, that go 
out in their trucks in the woods

488
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920
and we're going to contact those
guys with our products for all 

489
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,080
of their trucks. 
And that might be a new market 

490
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,920
that we will venture into. 
I've got my 4th point. 

491
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,080
Come back to my second point and
say and so my Third Point was 

492
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,240
alternative product positioning.
Which is then, as I say, looking

493
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,480
at things like looking at, OK, 
this product, where else is this

494
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,880
product used? 
So actually, I, I'm trying to 

495
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,320
think of a good example of this.
I bought a very, very smart 

496
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,840
watch strap years ago and it was
made of metal, steel. 

497
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,960
It's very smart. 
And you'd think you'd wear this 

498
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,680
at like fancy dinners wearing at
work if you're a senior exec or 

499
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,560
whatever. 
It actually was the comfiest 

500
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,920
watch strap to wear at the gym. 
And three of the top reviews 

501
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,000
said that. 
So I bought it to use at the 

502
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,960
gym, but the irony was it wasn't
designed for that and none of 

503
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,640
the pitchers had that. 
So again, they just got their 

504
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,920
positioning wrong for that 
product. 

505
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,120
Alternatively, you could, sorry,
alternative, alternative product

506
00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:51,640
position. 
You could also look at the way 

507
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,600
different people shop different 
products, so someone might shop 

508
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,960
a product. 
If I take this, this is what 

509
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,880
I've been playing with the whole
time. 

510
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,800
If you're wondering what is Nick
playing with on desk, this is 

511
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,880
the lens cap for the camera. 
So you squeeze those 2 little 

512
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,400
bits there and you put that on 
the camera and then no one can 

513
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,880
see me anymore. 
Beautiful. 

514
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,320
Do it now Nick, I can hear you 
or screaming. 

515
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,920
Sorry if you don't like my 
humour by the way, I'm very dry 

516
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,680
and very British. 
I find it quite funny. 

517
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,000
Other people don't but say it 
was this lens cap. 

518
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,400
You could search this by saying 
OK it's a Sony camera, so it's a

519
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,560
Sony lens cap. 
You could say I'm looking for a 

520
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,280
black 1. 
You might search the actual size

521
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,680
of lens for one. 
You might search the fact that 

522
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,960
it's a squeezable 1. 
I don't know what alternatives 

523
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,920
there would be, but I'm not 
really in cameras, but there's a

524
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,480
squeezable 1. 
I talked to that camera a lot 

525
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,320
and, and the other thing you 
might search for is like it says

526
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:40,240
in the back here, it is a 40.5 M
camera lens cap, sorry. 

527
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,440
So you might be searching by the
specific size, you might search 

528
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,040
by the material, you might 
search for one that's got a 

529
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,400
padded thing on it. 
You might search for one that's 

530
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,880
actually got a microfiber back 
or whatever it is to keep the 

531
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,160
lens clean. 
Every time you close it, it will

532
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,360
clean the lens like in transit 
and stuff for you to give you a 

533
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,000
little wipe. 
And so there's loads of ways you

534
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,960
would do that. 
So again, on a site you might 

535
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,840
have like a shop by colour, shop
by size, shop by functionality, 

536
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,160
shop by brand, that one's Sony. 
So there's loads of ways to do 

537
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,640
that. 
I'm going to jump around a 

538
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,560
little bit. 
So my .4 is looking at like a 

539
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,560
bit like with the trucks going 
to like fleets of trucks rather 

540
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,640
than trying to sell individually
to personal truck owners. 

541
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,120
B to B and wholesale is a 
fantastic way to go. 

542
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,120
If you're hitting a bit of a 
shelf and going, we've got all 

543
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:18,040
these brands in stock and we've 
got all these products under our

544
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,160
own brand. 
We could sell them to wholesale 

545
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,360
and Shopify actually released a 
blog post as well about B to B 

546
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,040
and wholesale and I won't read 
them out. 

547
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,080
I was going to read these out, 
but I actually thought this is 

548
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,840
the sort of the shopping habits 
and this is pretty better and 

549
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,560
bigger for you guys today 
knowing a lot of the listeners. 

550
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,720
But actually there is a big blog
post in the Shopify blog about 

551
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,640
B2B in wholesale and the top ten
places to find retailers to 

552
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,320
wholesale too. 
So definitely go and check that 

553
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,000
out if you're trying to get more
into the wholesale space. 

554
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,680
And and then jump back to #2I 
shouldn't have even told you the

555
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,800
order. 
I should just print them in 

556
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,120
order. 
She can't see my notes and but 

557
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,000
new keywords. 
So there might be new keywords 

558
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,640
you can target for a specific 
item, which is similar to the 

559
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,040
shopping by different 
functionalities of this lens 

560
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,480
cap. 
You might find that actually 

561
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,240
some people have moved to the US
and they don't call it a lens 

562
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,440
cap at all. 
They call it something else, 

563
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,280
which is a direct translation 
from German to English to 

564
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,960
American English and then across
from there. 

565
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,960
All good fun. 
I hope today's been useful, 

566
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,880
guys. 
We're going to do Quivia and 

567
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,800
then we're going to say goodbye 
and I'm going to sit in that 

568
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,160
chair to show you it's a real 
chair. 

569
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,640
According to the retail retailer
Insider, what percentage of 

570
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:22,960
holiday gift shoppers planned to
shop Boxing Day sales in 2024? 

571
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,720
So they did a survey what 
percentage of people that were 

572
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,120
buying holiday gifts pre 
Christmas plan to shop Boxing 

573
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:34,960
Day sales in 2024 percentage. 
Now quick slip of tea, if you're

574
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,520
on the train or a plane or 
something right now, just scream

575
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:44,160
a number out loud. 
You'll guess it is 36%. 

576
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,600
Which if you again go back to my
point earlier about I said 35% 

577
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,440
for this one particular retail 
client of ours, 36% of people 

578
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,800
that buy pre Christmas and gifts
in the holiday and stuff. 36% of

579
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,280
those guys plan to buy again on 
Boxing Dale, Boxing Dale Boxing 

580
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,760
Day. 
Thanks so much for tuning in 

581
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,920
guys. 
We're back in next week. 

582
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,560
I'm going to go since comfort 
chair and I think next week 

583
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,400
we're going to be back on 
Friday. 

584
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,320
Sorry. 
So we have another episode 

585
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,160
coming out on Friday this week. 
I don't know who it's with 

586
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,720
because I haven't checked the 
schedule and I've been away for 

587
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,320
the last couple of weeks, but 
I'm going to sit in the chair. 

588
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,440
Have a lovely time, guys. 
Have an amazing Christmas. 

589
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,760
If we don't talk before then and
if we if you do TuneIn, 

590
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,520
definitely TuneIn next Tuesday 
to my my Christmas Christmas 

591
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,240
themed Tuesday talks. 
I'll be wearing a special 

592
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,600
outfit. 
Thanks a lot guys.

