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Welcome to Let's Chat with MBB. 
I'm Sarah Burby, A BCBA National

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Board certified, health and 
Wellness coach, certified and TV

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even counselor, 7 figure 
business owner, speaker, mentor 

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and community trailblazer. 
I created this podcast as a 

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space for you to feel connected,
confident, and ready to tap into

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your passion. 
Because here is what I know to 

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be true. 
You can have it all if you allow

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yourself to be open to receiving
it. 

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On this show, we're diving deep 
into the intersection of mind, 

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body, and behavior. 
We'll explore what it takes to 

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build a life and business you 
love, breakthrough the barriers 

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holding you back, and step into 
the version of yourself you're 

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meant to be. 
My hope is that you meet each 

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episode feeling supported, 
motivated, and ready to tap into

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your highest self. 
I'd like you to crush every 

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single self limiting belief 
that's been keeping you small 

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and step boldly into everything 
you're capable of becoming. 

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So let's chat. 
Hey y'all and welcome back to 

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Let's chat. 
I'm going to get right into it 

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today because this topic, I 
don't know if you guys ever have

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this experience, but whatever. 
I'm trying not to think about 

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topics for the podcast or I 
guess sometimes I should say I'm

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not intentionally sitting down 
and being like, OK, this is what

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I want, what I want to talk 
about. 

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I give the best ideas. 
And I was literally just driving

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in my car on Saturday over the 
weekend, and I was supposed to 

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stop at Target to fix something 
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And I just got in the zone in my
head and I was thinking about 

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all these different things. 
And I phoned to my driveway and 

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I was like, shoot, I forgot. 
Just sorry bit. 

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So I had to go back again. 
But this is the idea that I was 

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thinking about. 
And so I want to share it with 

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you today. 
And I want you to think about 

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the time that you failed at 
something. 

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Maybe it was a launch that 
flopped, maybe it was a 

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relationship that ended badly, a
business decision that cost you 

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money. 
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Maybe it was a goal that you set
in January and then you just 

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totally abandoned it by March. 
Something where the outcome was 

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just not what you wanted and you
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Like really, really felt it. 
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that and just hold on to it for 
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I want to ask you, when that 
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hey, that didn't work out? 
What do I do differently next 

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time? 
Or did you think this means 

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something about who I am? 
Because that right there, that 

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split second where an outcome 
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what I want to talk about today.
That is the difference between 

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failure and defeat. 
And most people do not even 

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realize that they've made the 
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So I'm going to get into today 
what I think is one of the most 

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misunderstood concepts in 
personal development and 

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honestly just in life. 
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difference between failing and 
being defeated 'cause they are 

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not the same thing, OK? 
They're not even close. 

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And confusing them is one of the
most expensive mistakes that you

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can make. 
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for you to think about failure 
if an event defeat is a 

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decision. 
Let me just lay that out clearly

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because this is really an 
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And the more useful today's 
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you really understand that 
failure is a single event or 

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outcome. 
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It has a date, it has a context.
It has, it's fine, right? 

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You launched the thing and it 
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You apply for the role and you 
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You tried the strategy and it 
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That is failure. 
It is a result. 

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It is data. 
It is not your life sentence. 

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I tell people in clinicians 
doing more all the freaking 

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time. 
If you do something it doesn't 

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work out the way that you 
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is just data. 
It's just helping you make a 

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decision and get closer to your 
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Defeat is something completely 
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Defeat is a state of mind. 
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that single event, that one 
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consciously or not, then it 
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That it's proof that you just 
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It wasn't meant for you, that 
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keep going. 
Defeat is not what happened to 

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that moment. 
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is that most people make that 
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that they're making it. 
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stop talking about the thing, 
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They stop believing that it is 
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So think about this. 
Imagine you're driving somewhere

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that you've never been before, 
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OK, Yep, that's a mistake. 
That's failure. 

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Wrong turn 1. 
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you cannot reach your 
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It just means you need to 
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If anyone had the old GP s s 
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came out, I mean, it just keeps 
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Recalcitating, recalcitating, 
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That's something going on. 
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you turn off your car and you're
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go to that destination in the 
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same wrong turn, completely 
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And the response is what 
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next. 
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Why do we easily slide from not 
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who fails And the answer I think
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And I think once you understand 
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then catch yourself from this is
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So your brain literally has 
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It is a wire to wait negative 
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positive ones. 
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For most human history, missing 
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missing an opportunity. 
So you'll bring in learn to pay 

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in close attention to all the 
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remember it longer, to build 
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connections around it. 
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something, your brain stamps it 
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deeply right, And if you don't 
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encoded failure becomes a 
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filtering every single thing you
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There's also research on 
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helplessness, which is where 
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unsuccessful experiences, a 
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together. 
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Their brain has essentially 
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lead to results for me, and it 
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by just stop by shutting down 
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It's your nervous system that 
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unprocessed failure that it's 
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But, and this is important, 
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should I just say learn help. 
Assist is not an end all be all.

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We can rebuild, we can build new
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The neuro populates that say 
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rewire. 
Just like we talked about in the

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quantum leap episode, your brain
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It's so freaking cool. 
When you really Start learning 

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about this, it can build new 
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then and by changing how you 
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before defeat has a chance to 
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I want to talk about today. 
So here's some signs that you 

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are confusing failure with 
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Never what? 
You stopped talking about the 

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thing that you used to be 
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the way you started to feel a 
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maybe for some winning it. 
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world that you can't do it, so 
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defeat. 
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maturing. 
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the right route for me. 
I'm just gonna move on. 

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Like you're being realistic F 
being realistic, OK? 

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I don't want to live a day in my
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That sounds pretty boring to me.
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realistic is just more socially 
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acceptable than continuing to 
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So think about a person, maybe 
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idea and you were just so on 
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made the plan, took the steps, 
and it didn't gain traction as 

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fast as you expected. 
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And then slowly, over the next 
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bringing it up. 
Maybe it wasn't even bad and it 

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was a really good idea, but 
there was a gap between where 

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you were and where you wanted to
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evidence that you just weren't 
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It wasn't the right time. 
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going, you would have seen your 
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you're using past failures as 
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I see this all the time. 
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didn't work. 
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this, it fell apart. 
I have a story of just not 

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following through. 
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sentences sound familiar, that 
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little crystal ball to predict 
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And here is the thing, past 
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It is informative. 
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and I can tell you if it can 
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of course, but it also tells you
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improve on, what you need, 
skills you need that you didn't 

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have before. 
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whether the next attempt will 
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That's not Dita. 
That is a story that your mind 

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is telling you and is not very 
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And with the Ray, you've started
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adjusting the approach. 
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Instead of saying, OK, that 
strategy didn't work, what is a 

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different way that I can look at
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What is a different lens? 
How can I go about this 

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differently? 
You start saying, well, maybe I 

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was just aiming too high, maybe 
I should want something smaller,

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Maybe I need to be more 
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achievable for me. 
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recalibrating that is wise, 
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We all have to do that. 
But a lot of time shrinking the 

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goal is just a way to avoid risk
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again. 
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because you got clearer, it got 
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Those are two very different 
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OK, Is a goal getting smaller 
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is it getting smaller because 
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And really think about that. 
Number 4, you are comparing your

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failure to everyone else's 
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Welcome to 2026. 
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then immediately looks at 
everyone around you that seemed 

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And instead of thinking they're 
further along than me right now,

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they're on Chapter 20. 
Your thought is they can do this

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and I can't. 
That is comparison doing the 

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work of defeat, because what 
you're seeing is the result, not

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the road it took them to get 
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You're not seeing all their long
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their scrapped ideas. 
You're not seeing the moments 

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where they were crying, where 
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You were comparing your behind 
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reel and using it as evidence 
that you don't belong in the 

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game. 
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understand when you are doing 
this because this is so 

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unfortunately see this all the 
time and it's so curated what 

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people are posting. 
Right #5 you stopped being 

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curious about what went wrong. 
When failure is just data, your 

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natural response is going to be 
curiosity. 

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Huh, that's interesting. 
What didn't work? 

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Why? 
What would I do differently next

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time? 
But when failure has crossed 

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into defeat, your curiosity is 
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getting curious about what went 
wrong would require believing 

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that a different outcome is 
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And defeat doesn't believe that.
So instead you just avoid 

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thinking about it entirely. 
You move on, You distract 

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yourself, you tell yourself it 
doesn't matter. 

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But unexpected failure is just 
wasted failure. 

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The lesson is still sitting 
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And I see this all the time with
clients too. 

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The ones who are ready to grow 
will say, OK, that didn't work, 

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now please help me figure out 
why. 

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The ones who have slipped into 
defeat will say, I just don't 

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think this is for me. 
They're the exact same outcome, 

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but two very wildly different 
responses to that. 

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You guys, I cannot say this 
enough. 

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I am constantly doing things 
that that do not work. 

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OK, I would say that it's 
happening less and less, but I 

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am constantly revising things, 
testing things. 

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That is the whole damn point. 
If I stopped on things that I 

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knew were working and it didn't 
propel my business forward, I 

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would just stay stagnant. 
I'm constantly trial and 

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erroring things and then 
literally looking that 

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objectively and saying, wow, 
that is not the way I thought it

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was going to go. 
What happened? 

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Why was that? 
How can I look at this 

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differently? 
How can I tweak this or change 

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up? 
I think that's the freaking fun 

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part of a business is getting so
crystal fear on exactly what's 

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working and what's not so that 
you can continue to propel you 

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resolve forward. 
Number six, I think of mine, my 

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tangents is you feel relieved 
when something falls through. 

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And this is gonna really tell 
you something when an 

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opportunity does not pan out. 
And your first feeling 

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underneath any disappointment is
actually relief. 

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Relief that you don't have to 
try again. 

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Relief that you don't have to 
risk feeling again, because 

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defeat, when it is fully settled
in, doesn't just make you stop 

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trying, it makes you stop 
feeling safe. 

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And trying feels dangerous. 
And if release is familiar to 

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you, I want you to sit with 
that. 

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Not to judge yourself for it, 
but to recognize it for what it 

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is. 
Your nervous system has learned 

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that effort leads to pain. 
And that is absolutely something

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that we can rewire. 
We can build those new 

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relational networks. 
So how many of those felt 

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uncomfortable for you? 
How many of those hit for you? 

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Because if you've even won, two 
of those things landed. 

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I want you to hear this. 
You are not defeated. 

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You have just been letting 
failure tell a story that it was

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never supposed to tell. 
And the fact that you can 

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recognize it, that's good. 
That's just the beginning of 

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getting unstuck, of building 
those new relational networks. 

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Awareness always, always, always
is the first move. 

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So how does defeat actually get 
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Like I said, defeat doesn't 
usually happen at that moment of

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failure. 
You don't typically fail and 

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immediately give up. 
It's like kind of sneaky and it 

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happens in the processing or the
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So in the days and weeks that 
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And so here are some mistakes 
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Sometimes people make it seem 
something about who they are, or

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as they should say, they make it
mean something about who they 

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are. 
So the moment you move from that

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failed to I am a failure, that 
is a moment that defeat starts. 

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Because failure as an event is 
something you can learn from, 

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something you can adjust, 
something you can move past. 

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Failure as an identity is 
something you carry into every 

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next attempt and use as a reason
to pull back before you've even 

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started. 
And it sounds so obvious when 

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I'm saying it right now. 
And of course 1 outcome does not

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define you. 
But in practice, how often do 

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you notice yourself going from 
that event right? 

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That something I that event 
failed. 

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That event didn't go how I 
wanted to to I am a failure 

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happened so fast, so 
automatically that most people 

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do not even catch it. 
So that reef ringing, I failed 

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that specific thing in that 
specific context at that 

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specific time and there no 
explanation. 

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Therefore I am someone who 
fails. 

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Just stop there. 
That happened, it didn't work 

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out. 
What did that teach me? 

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Another mistake I see is people 
skipping the process and jumping

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straight to moving on. 
And there is a difference 

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between processing and 
ruminating. 

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Processing means you actually 
sit with the failure long enough

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to extract the lesson. 
You ask what went wrong, what 

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you do differently, what you 
need that you didn't have 

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before. 
And rooming means that you're 

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just replaying that painful 
feeling over and over and over 

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again without actually 
extracting anything useful. 

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Most people do one stream or the
other, skip the processing 

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entirely, or ruminate endlessly 
and forget to the lesson. 

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And that sweet spot is what I 
call processing with intention. 

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So you're feeling it, you're 
examining it, you're learning 

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from it, and then you're moving 
forward. 

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I know I didn't episode on this.
I don't even remember my episode

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numbers, but I'm asking 
yourself, what is the lesson 

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here? 
My life changed so much when I 

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just got used to asking myself 
what is a lesson instead of why 

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is this happening to me? 
Why is this happening for me? 

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What is a lesson that I can 
extract out of this? 

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I might not like it, most of the
time I don't like it, but I know

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if I sit with it long enough, 
there is a lesson there. 

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I just need to be open and 
willing to process it #3 The 

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last mistake I'm going to talk 
about is waiting until you feel 

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ready to try again. 
And so after a failure, a lot of

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people decide that they need to 
feel ready before they try 

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again. 
They need to feel confident and 

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prepared, certainly, and it 
won't happen again. 

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And so they wait. 
They wait. 

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And that waiting feels 
responsible, like they're being 

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strategic. 
But what's actually happening is

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that the readiness becomes the 
excuse. 

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Because here it's what I know to
be true. 

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Confidence to try again does not
come before you attempt. 

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No way. 
It comes from the attempt. 

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You don't get ready and then go.
You go and the readiness builds 

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in the gully. 
Waiting until the fear is gone 

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means sorry, but you're going to
be waiting forever. 

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And if he is just a very long 
wait dressed up as caution. 

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And so I have been at that work 
in the road multiple times. 

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There have been things that I've
tried in my business that did 

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not work. 
There have been investments that

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did not pay off the way I 
expected. 

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There have been programs that 
didn't feel the way I planned. 

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And moments where that gap 
between where I was and where I 

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wanted to be felt very, very. 
Why those moments? 

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I had a choice. 
And I'm not going to pretend 

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like it was always cleanly made.
I was always making those 

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quickly. 
Sometimes I sought and that 

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longer than I would have liked. 
But every single time I came 

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back to the same question. 
Is this telling me I should 

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stop? 
Or is it telling me I need to 

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adjust? 
And the answer almost every 

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single time was just adjust. 
The failure was never at the end

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of the story. 
It was just a chapter that 

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required some edits. 
It required some rewrite. 

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And every person you admire who 
has built something, a business,

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a career, a life, they have a 
whole failure resume, a list of 

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things that didn't work out, 
launches at flops best intend to

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pay all seasons where they 
wonder if they should keep going

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if they made a huge mistake. 
Every single person. 

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You probably just didn't see 
that part. 

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You saw the version of them on 
the other side of it. 

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And the only thing that 
separates the people could get 

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to the other side from the ones 
that don't. 

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It is not talent, my friend. 
It is not luck. 

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It is not framing. 
It is a decision that is made 

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over and over and over again. 
That failure is data, not a 

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destiny. 
So here's what I want you to do 

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this week. 
I might need to think about one 

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thing you've been treating as 
defeat that was actually just 

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failure. 
One thing that you stop talking 

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about, stop trying, stop 
bleeding what's possible for you

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because of an outcome that 
happened at a specific point in 

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time. 
And I want you to ask yourself 

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honestly, did that failure 
actually tell me to stop, or did

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I decide to stop and then use 
that failure as the reason? 

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Failure is an event. 
Defeat is a decision. 

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As long as you haven't decided, 
as long as you're still here, 

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still listening, still asking 
the question, you have not been 

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defeated. 
You have just been failing 

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forward. 
And that is exactly where the 

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girls lives. 
You are allowed to fail. 

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It is so normal to fail. 
You are allowed to feel loudly 

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and messy and in front of 
people. 

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You're allowed to try something 
that doesn't always work. 

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That's literally the process. 
The people who never fail are 

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the people who never try 
anything worth doing and I do 

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not want that for you. 
I want the version of you who 

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tries, who fails sometimes, who 
learns, who keeps going anyway, 

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That version of you that is 
freaking unstoppable. 

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