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Welcome back everyone to buying 
local. 

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I am your host, Mike Nelson. 
Each week, if you're a new 

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listener, each or I shouldn't 
say each week, but each episode 

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we interview local business 
owners, people that are involved

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in the community in different 
facets and kind of helped try to

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amplify their voice and their 
message. 

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So today, oh, and forgive me, 
I'm a little stuffy sounding 

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here. 
My allergies are out of control.

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I don't know what it is, but. 
So today we're joined by Steven 

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Zabala, which we were just 
joking around. 

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It's like my favorite. 
Every time I hear his name, I'm 

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like Zabala. 
Like it's just a great last 

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name. 
Steven, welcome. 

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Thanks for coming in man. 
Thanks for having me, Mike. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
So Steven's a pretty dynamic 

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dude. 
He's he does all kinds of 

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different stuff we're going to 
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owning Green Fork, which is a 
meal prep and delivery service, 

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And it's it's pretty cool. 
You got a cool format and 

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amazing food and and you do 
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but I won't butcher that yet 
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into this. 
So Steve, I I know you've got 

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pretty healthy resume stuff that
you're doing right now, right? 

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So why don't you kind of run us 
through all the stuffs, all the 

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stuffs, all the stuffs, all the 
things that that you're up to? 

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Yeah, I do a lot. 
Pretty busy guy. 

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I have two businesses. 
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that's the meal prep, nutrition,
coaching, catering, food. 

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Healthy lifestyle, kind of 
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Yeah. 
And then I also do personal 

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training, group coaching, and I 
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called Primal Fit. 
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being a father, you know, keeps 
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I forget that you've got a son, 
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Yeah. 
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He's 1550. 
My son's 15 as well. 

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That's crazy, right? 
You've rolled. 

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With him. 
Jiu jitsu. 

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I rolled with your son? 
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Stop it. 
Yeah, he's there. 

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That's funny. 
I had no idea. 

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Yep, he tapped me out. 
I don't. 

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Know Did he? 
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Is he? 
Pretty savage, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, he's like, he's really 

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into the same things that I'm 
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Yeah, he exercises all the time.
He eats clean. 

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I got him working with me, so 
that's cool, man. 

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He's really into his his 
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and martial arts. 
He loves it, yeah. 

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Building all those habits when 
you're young, too, man, That's 

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huge. 
That's huge. 

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That's. 
What I'm trying to do, yeah. 

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And then so of course aside from
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the the Buddha Khan tell tell 
the listeners about Buddha Khan,

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cuz that's just cool stuff man. 
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really, it's mixed movement. 
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say that. 
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it, because I was really into 
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I got my teacher training and 
all that, but it was lacking 

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something for me, you know? 
I didn't like being stuck on the

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mat. 
I've always been an active guy 

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and like love exercise. 
I'll get my heart rate up. 

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So this Budokan is like a mix. 
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it. 
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martial arts, animal movements, 
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movements. 
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and then there's like a 
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to it, which is really cool. 
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allencompassing. 
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movement. 
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around, jumping around, 
pretending to be an animal, you 

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know? 
Yeah, it's really, really cool. 

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Yeah, it's. 
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when I was on social media, I 
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Fitness, you know, those kinds 
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just so cool. 
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animal Flow, there's Budokan, 
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I don't know what that's called.
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whatever. 
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movement, you know? 
Yeah, kind of get, you know, the

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range of motion that you're 
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and new joints and all that fun 
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I've heard it called Yoga for 
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Yoga for Crossfitters, yeah. 
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really intense. 
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around the room, jumping around 
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gorilla and really into it. 
I love it, Yeah. 

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I know there was a guy, Justin 
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into Botocon. 
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Right. 
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those kinds of classes. 
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introduced me to it. 
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Way back in the day. 
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I think I'm going to do some 
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I want to use the Dojo maybe to 
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workshops. 
I have offered the class before 

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pre COVID. 
I was, you know, I had some 

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numbers, I built up a nice class
size and then that kind of just 

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all went away. 
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unique thing that you know, you 
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thing to really want to get into
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People look at it and they're 
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that. 
It's so crazy. 

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But yeah, but anybody can, you 
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Yeah, it's just little baby 
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need and work into it, right. 
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is the process of of going 
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learning them, but. 
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ground up. 
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It's totally different, but once
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basic foundational principles, 
just like any system of movement

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or any anything. 
Once you get that, you can play 

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with it and make it your own. 
And it's super creative and fun 

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and flowy and yeah, it's just 
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anybody can do it. 
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So, so yes, I want to do some 
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Coming up soon for sure. 
Very cool, very cool. 

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Stay tuned everyone. 
I think it's really cool stuff. 

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It's fascinating. 
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your body too, from a standpoint
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you're old like I am, trying to 
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or, you know, even if you're 
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that range of motion there. 
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flexibility and mobility all the
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deep squat position and then be 
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So your joints. 
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and you do jiu jitsu, right? 
So you know you're in some weird

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know, like your shoulder gets 
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It's pretty wild spots and 
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stable there. 
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maintaining the healthy range of
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Yeah, I know, definitely I need 
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My hips are, my hips are killing
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Like they're so tight and can't 
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It's a really nice adjunct for 
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Yeah, for sure. 
So, all right, So let's talk 

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about Battleground, OK, Right, 
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It's my friend Rebecca who you 

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should have on here. 
I should. 

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Yes. 
Rebecca, please. 

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Come on. 
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She's really great. 
She owns. 

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She opened it right after COVID.
We trained together at a place 

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called Fit Strength and 
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Back in the day pre COVID, that 
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then after she started her own 
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2020. 
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there since she opened. 
Nice. 

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So I do group classes over 
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I write the Wednesday workouts, 
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It's like total body 
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flavor on it. 
We do some body weight movements

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like the animal flow, Buddha con
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huge fan of kettle bells. 
I was going to ask cuz I know 

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the stuff that I'd seen from you
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kettle bell centric stuff. 
Like is it only kettle bells or 

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you guys incorporate other stuff
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No, there's there's everything 
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Wednesdays, that's my thing. 
I really love kettle bells and 

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you know, but we do everything. 
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bars, dumbbells, sandbags, 
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Body weight, anything you think 
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Really. 
That's cool, yeah. 

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So it's pretty comprehensive. 
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classic strength and 
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So, you know, deadlifts, squats.
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that kind of stuff. 
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And then that leads into your 
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Like how does that work A? 
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actually. 
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I have a few clients where I'll 
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They, you know, they prefer 
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I also train out of my home gym 
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It's pretty nice set up, but I 
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Battleground, so. 
Anywhere during COVID I was 

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training out of the State Park, 
had classes going, Oh yeah, So 

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yeah, that's cool. 
And stuff. 

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It was cool. 
But yeah, so I do personal 

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training as well. 
That's actually, I've been doing

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that since 2016. 
I'm getting back now, giving my 

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back story a little, but I've 
been a chef my whole life, grew 

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up in Saratoga, cooking and 
various restaurants, and I moved

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to Arizona in like 2016 and I 
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there. 
I landed a job at this place 

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called Canyon Ranch. 
Super nice facility, health and 

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Wellness kind of retreat area. 
A lot of celebrities go there, 

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kind of dry out a little bit, 
you know? 

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So I was like, okay, this would 
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You know, I have a degree in 
culinary nutrition. 

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I've always been into that. 
So maybe here's an opportunity 

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for me to use that degree. 
And it turned out to just be 

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like, the worst job I've ever 
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So, So I left and had kind of a 
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Like, what am I going to do? 
I don't want to cook anymore. 

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I don't want to do this anymore.
So I did my yoga teacher 

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training Baja, Mexico, 30 days 
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It was sounds awful. 
Absolutely transformational. 

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I mean inside and out. 
And you had me at Baja, Mexico. 

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It's great. 
Just eating like super clean 

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food. 
Yoga twice a day. 

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Meditation sun sand. 
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. 

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But after that, I got back and 

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did my personal training 
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yoga in Tucson, AZ, started 
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clients at a local gym, and 
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Getting back to food. 
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six months. 
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to me and say, you know, I'm not
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achieving the results I want. 
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diet, their nutrition plan, and 
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time or energy or knowledge 
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So I said, all right, well, let 
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You know, I have this background
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Let me just do your meal prep 
for you. 

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You can pay me for it and we'll 
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So I had about a dozen. 
Clients where I was doing that 

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and then the gym gym owners call
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work with me. 
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started. 
It's always been my idea through

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college and stuff. 
Green Fork got the tattoo on my 

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arm here. 
Fork with roots, so they call 

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wind of it and they had seven 
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AS22 guys extremely helpful to 
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these six week challenges, you 
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big like years ago 2016, so 
seven different gyms across the 

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area, six week challenges, they 
had hundreds of clients and 

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thousands across the the city 
and they said we want you to do 

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the food for all of it. 
So all the meal prep for the six

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week challenge based on these 
diet, you know these 

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restrictions that we're putting 
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So I did and that was like my 
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To, you know, 1000. 
Yeah, that's amazing. 

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So that's how Green Fort got 
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It was. 
But, and that's how I started 

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personal training and yoga and 
everything. 

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So it kind of just like making 
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in restaurants and working for 
other people to going full blown

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entrepreneur. 
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for me within a couple, within 
like a couple years. 

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I think everybody should own 
their own business personally, 

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but it's. 
It's a lot of work. 

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Yeah. 
It's not easy. 

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It's not for the faint of heart,

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for sure. 
But like, I, you know, like I 

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just feel that entrepreneurism 
is, you know, it's like the 

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purest path to freedom, right? 
Like, you know, and you know, 

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it's not for everybody, for 
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Not everybody wants to, you 
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because it also comes with a 
price, you know? 

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But yeah, I think everybody, if 
they can, they should. 

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You have to be driven. 
You have to really want it. 

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You know you can't. 
You have to. 

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You have to be disciplined. 
You can't really mess around. 

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You have to. 
You have to. 

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Nobody's going to write your 
schedule for you, right? 

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Nobody's going to help you, you 
know? 

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Yeah, sometimes all that freedom
can really be a bad thing, man. 

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That responsibility? 
Yeah, for sure. 

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But so rewarding. 
It's so great. 

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And then so you know kind of 
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Green Forks, how did you end up 
back out here on the East Coast?

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Last family stuff. 
My son moved back here and so I 

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kind of had to pack up all that 
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thriving and then move back 
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move back here. 
Started working at a gym doing 

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group classes, which I had never
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Besides yoga. 
I'd never taught group classes. 

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So I did that for about a year 
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you talk about Green Fork and 
ended up getting some clients 

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working one-on-one with them. 
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my house, you know, starting out
slow and then it just caught 

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wind, caught fire. 
Ended up getting a place doing 

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that for a little while. 
I had a business partner for a 

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little while and it just grew 
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So it kind of grew almost the 
same way it did in Arizona, very

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organically. 
So if you got a good product and

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good service and you know good, 
you know people are going to 

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want to use it, right? 
Yeah, and I think. 

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You can't talk about fitness 
without talking about nutrition,

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you know, So you're in the gym. 
You spend an hour a day there. 

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Well, what's the other eight 
hours of your day look like? 

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23 hours rather, you know, like,
are you eating good? 

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Are you doing more movement than
just in the gym? 

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Are you hydrating? 
Are you sleeping? 

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Well, there's so much to it. 
So you know, my thing being 

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nutrition and food, I want to be
able to offer that to the 

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community, to the world, and So 
what better place to meet 

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people? 
And in a gym, yeah. 

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And so now you're so you've got 
your location, you get your 

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based out of the mall, right? 
That's where your kitchen is. 

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In the Wilton Mall. 
In the Wilton Mall, yeah. 

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And but you guys don't do any 
kind of dining service though. 

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I want to make sure we said 
before people start showing up 

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looking to, you know. 
Yeah, yeah, we did try that. 

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So they wanted us to be open in 
the mall and we did try for 

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several months. 
There just wasn't enough 

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traffic. 
You know, unfortunately, we sunk

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a bunch of money into like a 
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Countertop, we made this nice 
wood countertop go across. 

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We built a sign. 
So we're geared for it. 

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Like we could do it if I wanted 
to, but you know, there's just 

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not enough traffic and 
eventually, you know, they're 

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talking about putting those 
condos in there. 

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If that happens, there's more 
traffic. 

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Maybe we would open. 
Sure, I would love to. 

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Yeah. 
Obviously it's just another 

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yeah, do a dine in service 
counter service. 

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Yeah, why not? 
There's a Planet Fitness right 

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there so we can come over and 
get. 

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And a nice healthy lunch or 
whatever. 

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I'd love to be able to offer 
that, but the demand right now 

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isn't so much and I'm doing fine
with what I'm doing already. 

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So, yeah and so and so if I'm 
not mistaken, you know, tell us 

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a little bit about the services 
that you are offering through 

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through Greenfield, Greenfield, 
Green Fork. 

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Green Fork, Yeah. 
So right now just a meal prep 

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service, right? 
So we do six different meals and

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some snacks and bone broths and 
stuff. 

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So six different meals. 
Two chicken, 2 Turkey and two 

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beef each week and you can 
choose to do a subscription or 

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you can order a la carte. 
So you can go on my website, 

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eatgreenfork.com. 
Everything's listed there, tells

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you how to order the process and
everything. 

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But yeah, I try to mix up the 
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seasonal and the meals are 
prepackaged, pre portioned. 

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Portion control is a huge thing,
right? 

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The whole idea fully cooked. 
In eco friendly containers, you 

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just throw in the microwave for 
2-3 minutes and you have a nice 

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hot meal that's pretty cool. 
And now, are people able to 

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customize the meal plans based 
around their own personal 

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nutrition or how does that work?
No, not really, because unless 

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they want to pay extra. 
Right. 

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Yeah, that's a lot. 
You know, So the way that I've 

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structured it is pretty, pretty 
broad broad stroke nutrition 

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wise. 
So everything is gluten free, 

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everything is dairy free. 
You can order a vegan option and

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all the accompaniments are also 
made vegan. 

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So, and it's pretty 
straightforward across the 

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board. 
It's whole food, it's real food.

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It's we don't use a lot of 
things that cause allergies, we 

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don't use a lot of allergens. 
So in that way it's good for 

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anybody to eat. 
I mean we do 5 ounces of 

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protein, 3 1/2 ounces of carbs, 
and a handful of non starchy 

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vegetables. 
So each meal is about. 40 grams 

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of protein and about 500 
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So it's good for most people you
know, unless you have a specific

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need like you need way more 
protein or something. 

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You know it covers most bases. 
So yeah. 

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So individual nutrition plans, 
no. 

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But. 
Another service that we offer is

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nutrition coaching. 
So if you so I will work with 

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you. 
Say you needed to help figuring 

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out this whole nutrition thing. 
There's a lot of misinformation 

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out there. 
There's a lot of bullshit out 

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there. 
You want to work with a 

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nutritionist or a dietitian or 
somebody? 

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You would come to me and I would
help you break down your 

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nutrient needs, your macro 
nutrient needs, and explain that

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whole process to you and help 
you. 

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You know, get on the right path 
there. 

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Yeah. 
So, So as far as like who this 

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service is really good for, 
right? 

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It's good for, you know, they 
don't have to be a pro athlete 

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to take advantage of this kind 
of just someone who just wants 

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to improve their nutrition, 
doesn't have the time. 

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Like who are some of the people 
that you're working with, 

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honestly? 
Anybody could benefit from this,

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right? 
If you. 

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Yeah, mostly people that care 
about their health. 

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If you're somebody that cares 
about your health and Wellness, 

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then you're going to be drawn 
to. 

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Clean eating, right. 
But I do sponsor some athletes. 

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I've sponsored triathletes in 
the past. 

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Alex Best sell. 
You know her. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Don Walton, who you've just had 
on this podcast, I helped him 

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with his his first pro fight. 
Cutting weight is really hard to

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do. 
You know he had to drop like 30 

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pounds in a couple of months. 
Cutting weight without starving 

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yourself and completely 
destroying your body? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, and it's tough to do and 

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it's not something. 
I would do with a normal person,

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you know, but a pro athlete in 
that sport, you got to do it so,

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So I helped him. 
I gave him all the food that he 

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needed. 
I gave him some supplements, 

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helped him a little with his 
training and got him down. 

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He made weight and and then the 
the recovery process afterwards 

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too, you know, that's a big 
deal. 

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You can just. 
You know, lose 30 pounds and be 

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skin and bones and then just 
start mounting down 

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cheeseburgers and milkshakes. 
You know, it's funny. 

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Years ago I, a buddy of mine was
doing some of the, like, fitness

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competitions, you know, and he, 
you know, did the whole thing 

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with eat and clean training for 
however, you know, a year or 

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eight months or six months or 
whatever it was. 

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And and then he went to the 
event, he did well in the event 

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and then when the event was 
over, he went right for the 

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cheeseburger and fries and blah,
blah, blah. 

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And then like had like this 
crazy edema thing happening in 

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his legs where he like had to go
to the hospital because he's 

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like he thought his leg was 
going to basically like, explode

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because it was so swollen. 
Because all of a sudden all that

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sodium and and water was getting
pumped in there and his body 

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just didn't know how to handle 
it. 

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Yeah, you got to be really 
careful, especially when you're 

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when you're drying your body out
like that for competition, 

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bodybuilding, yeah, yeah, they 
get down to like. 

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You know less than 3% body fat 
is. 

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Dangerous. 
And so you have to recover 

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problems. 
You have to reverse diet, and 

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that's super important. 
But you know, you don't have to 

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be a pro athlete. 
You don't have to be, you know, 

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a fighter or whatever. 
If you're just a busy person and

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like to eat clean on the go, 
these meals are just two minutes

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in the microwave. 
You could even eat them cold, 

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you know, So anybody who's busy,
anybody who wants to eat clean 

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but doesn't know. 
Like, I'm running down here. 

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I'm like, stopped by my house, 
grabbed a thing of pasta salad, 

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which I don't ever eat pasta, 
but it was like the only thing I

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had in my fridge that was cold 
and I could grab. 

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So I was like, shit, I guess I'm
eating pasta and you know, and 

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then I'm like slamming it down 
on the car as I'm driving down 

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here. 
But yeah, sometimes you guys, 

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it's terrible to do right. 
That's basically just poisoned 

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myself, I feel like, but 
whatever, it could be worse. 

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But it's that kind of stuff 
though, right? 

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I mean, it's, you know, just be.
It doesn't. 

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You don't have to be. 
In fitness. 

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Or be just your person that's 
got a crazy schedule. 

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Like like we do, like 
entrepreneurs. 

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I mean, I benefit so much from 
my own meals. 

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I make extras so I can take them
home. 

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Because you know, my girlfriend,
my son and I, we all live 

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together and we are eating them 
constantly just because we're 

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always so busy all this. 
Yeah, it's. 

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I mean, I'm, you know, you and 
I've geeked out a little bit 

453
00:21:24,460 --> 00:21:26,820
about food, and I'm a big 
nutrition geek. 

454
00:21:27,380 --> 00:21:30,660
I've said I don't have your 
knowledge or expertise or that 

455
00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:32,300
stuff. 
But I love listening to 

456
00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:34,900
podcasts, love listening, 
reading up on nutrition and 

457
00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:38,220
different things that go on. 
And I've done every kind of food

458
00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:41,020
experiment on my body that you 
can do basically over the last 

459
00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:44,660
15 years, whether it was eating 
paleo or keto or all these 

460
00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:46,500
different kinds of things. 
Over the years and trying 

461
00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,620
different things, I went vegan 
for a while. 

462
00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:52,340
Vegetarian a few times. 
And just trying to experiment to

463
00:21:52,340 --> 00:21:56,180
see what worked for my body, you
know, got big and intermittent 

464
00:21:56,180 --> 00:22:00,660
fasting, but a huge fan of 
fasting and all the benefits 

465
00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:03,220
that come along with that. 
But then I did read, listen to a

466
00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:05,660
podcast recently with some 
experts on. 

467
00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:08,580
I think it was on Huberman. 
You listen to Huberman, love his

468
00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:10,860
podcast. 
He had a guy on talking about 

469
00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:12,380
fasting, though. 
And the guy was basically like, 

470
00:22:12,380 --> 00:22:15,980
listen, like there's really no 
benefit of intermittent fasting 

471
00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:18,980
compared to just. 
Caloric reduction. 

472
00:22:18,980 --> 00:22:21,060
He's like, there's no magic 
thing about what time of day 

473
00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:22,340
you're eating. 
It's like it's just about 

474
00:22:22,340 --> 00:22:25,260
reducing the amount of calories 
that you're eating at any given 

475
00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:27,500
point in time. 
But yeah, basically that's it. 

476
00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:29,100
It's calories in versus calories
in. 

477
00:22:29,220 --> 00:22:31,420
Yeah. 
And that's a super general, 

478
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:35,740
simplistic way of putting it. 
But it's very fair to say that 

479
00:22:36,060 --> 00:22:38,180
that's all that really matters 
Now. 

480
00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:43,020
Where things like special diets 
do help is, you know, like 

481
00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:44,340
intermittent fasting, for 
example. 

482
00:22:45,250 --> 00:22:47,330
It puts a time restriction on 
when you can eat. 

483
00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:50,090
So if you didn't do that, you 
know, you didn't have the 

484
00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:52,690
discipline to say I'm only going
to eat 6 hours a day, you'd be 

485
00:22:52,690 --> 00:22:55,410
eating all day. 
You might end up eating 2000 

486
00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:57,410
more calories. 
Way more calories, right? 

487
00:22:57,410 --> 00:23:00,250
And that just affects your your 
calorie deficit. 

488
00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:02,610
So many different ways to skin 
the cat there. 

489
00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:06,650
And it really depends on your 
individual needs, your 

490
00:23:06,650 --> 00:23:11,290
lifestyle, your morals, you 
know, all kinds of different 

491
00:23:11,610 --> 00:23:14,220
things that can affect it. 
But yeah, calories in versus 

492
00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:16,020
calories out is plain and 
simple. 

493
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:18,420
I I recently tried to put 
breakfast. 

494
00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:21,020
So I've been an intermittent 
fasting guy for years now, 

495
00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:21,460
right? 
Yeah. 

496
00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:24,580
So typically I, you know, I'll 
eat my last meal somewhere 

497
00:23:24,580 --> 00:23:27,260
around we'll say 7:00 o'clock at
night, and then I don't eat 

498
00:23:27,260 --> 00:23:29,220
again until before noon the next
day. 

499
00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:31,420
That's my rule, right? 
Like, I can eat at noon if I 

500
00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:33,620
want, or sometimes it ends up 
being one or two or three or 

501
00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:36,700
whatever it is. 
But about, I don't know, maybe 

502
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:39,380
four or five months ago I 
listened to that podcast about, 

503
00:23:39,380 --> 00:23:41,220
like, doesn't matter what time 
I'm like, oh alright, I'm gonna 

504
00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,360
try breakfast out. 
I can't eat breakfast. 

505
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,880
Yeah, I put on. 
My body is so used to what I do 

506
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,600
now that I put on so much weight
almost immediately because I 

507
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,200
just, I was now was eating 
breakfast and then I was eating 

508
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,440
lunch and then I was eating 
dinner. 

509
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,760
So I literally just added an 
extra meal in there instead of 

510
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,440
like right now I pretty much eat
2 meals. 

511
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,640
I ate a lunch and then I eat at 
dinner and and we're calling it 

512
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,880
quits. 
But yeah, it messed me all up 

513
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,240
man. 
So I'm back on the don't eat 

514
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,680
before noon trained. 
Sure. 

515
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,200
Yeah, yeah, That's what your 
body's become accustomed to. 

516
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,600
And, you know, it just depends 
on what your goals are too. 

517
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,910
If you, you know, let's say you 
don't want to lose weight and 

518
00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:16,110
you want to gain weight, well, 
you know you want to gain some 

519
00:24:16,110 --> 00:24:17,750
muscle, you're going to have to 
eat more. 

520
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:21,350
Yeah, and a lot of people. 
More of the Right Stuff, more of

521
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:25,470
the right stuff, right? 
I have people that come to me 

522
00:24:25,470 --> 00:24:27,990
that their goal is to get bigger
and gain muscle. 

523
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:30,680
A lot of people in the fitness 
world, you know, and so they're 

524
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,760
used to, women's mostly are used
to eating less and less and 

525
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,240
starving themselves, right? 
It's like, no, here's the idea. 

526
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,760
We're going to work out hard and
we're going to feed your body 

527
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,920
with the fuel that it needs. 
You're going to watch yourself 

528
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,040
grow. 
You're going to watch the body 

529
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520
fat shrink and your muscles 
grow. 

530
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240
And that's the look you're going
for. 

531
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,720
You know you don't want to 
starve yourself too much. 

532
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,000
No, you're going to have the 
opposite effect. 

533
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,000
Yeah, definitely. 
Opposite effect so. 

534
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:56,780
So you guys are doing your meal 
service. 

535
00:24:56,860 --> 00:24:59,180
Yep, right. 
And then, but you also, you're 

536
00:24:59,380 --> 00:25:02,220
still doing catering too, right?
I'll do some catering, yeah, 

537
00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:05,060
little for friends and stuff. 
People reach out different 

538
00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:07,900
events and stuff. 
We like to be at CrossFit 

539
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,260
events. 
You know, anything that can help

540
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:13,860
me spread the awareness. 
Of the meal prep stuff, The meal

541
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:14,860
prep stuff. 
Got it. 

542
00:25:15,260 --> 00:25:17,540
All right. 
Because I know that you you 

543
00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:19,180
catered some Food First for our 
party last year. 

544
00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:22,180
It was freaking amazing, dude. 
It was so good. 

545
00:25:22,540 --> 00:25:26,500
And I was so pissed because 
like, everybody was eating the. 

546
00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:29,440
I think it was like a short rib.
OK. 

547
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,760
Yeah. 
Was it a short rib? 

548
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000
Yeah, it was like some sort of 
braised beef. 

549
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And it was so good. 

550
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,080
And I was like, ooh, I'm going 
to have leftovers. 

551
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,360
I'm going to eat this for like a
week. 

552
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,440
And then, like, there were no 
leftovers, man. 

553
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Everybody ate the food on me. 
And I was, I was pissed. 

554
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,000
Should be more. 
I know. 

555
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,280
It was so funny. 
You have a party catered, then 

556
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280
you're like, I don't want anyone
to eat the food because I want 

557
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,560
to. 
I want to eat it myself. 

558
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,320
But yeah, yeah, well, we aim to 
please, you know, I like to. 

559
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,120
So yeah, I like to do some 
catering events here and there. 

560
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,780
Like I said, we had one called 
the Masters Classic down in 

561
00:26:02,780 --> 00:26:05,180
fraternity. 
Yeah, that was really cool 

562
00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:07,220
because we get to feed these 
athletes and be a part of the 

563
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,460
their growth. 
And what a great group of people

564
00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:10,540
they are down there at 
fraternity. 

565
00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:13,300
I I photographed them a bunch 
and just they're just all so 

566
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,940
great and you know those guys 
will be doing workouts that are 

567
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:18,420
just murdering them and and 
they're still smiling and 

568
00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:20,020
laughing and having a good time.
Yeah. 

569
00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:23,700
So I wanted to get into the gyms
that we partnered with to help 

570
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,980
me spread the word. 
But just on that point, I walk 

571
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:28,660
in there. 
The past, like, few months, 

572
00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:29,980
these guys have been going super
hard. 

573
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:33,020
I walk in there at 6:00 AM to 
make my Monday deliveries and 

574
00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:36,380
they're going nuts, clean and 
squat and jerk. 

575
00:26:36,380 --> 00:26:39,060
And the gym is packed and the 
music's raging. 

576
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:42,300
Yeah, man, I'm getting out of my
car listening to like a quiet, 

577
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,620
like podcast or something, and 
it's like a kick in the face 

578
00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:46,220
when I walk in the door. 
It's great. 

579
00:26:46,220 --> 00:26:48,100
I love it. 
Yeah, they got the great people,

580
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,580
great gym, very supportive 
people help me out. 

581
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:54,800
So yeah, like I said, I've 
partnered with these different 

582
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,800
gyms everywhere from Albany up 
the Northway, Clifton Park, 

583
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,640
Saratoga up in Lake George. 
So that has helped me spread the

584
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,520
word too. 
So if you're somebody that lives

585
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,440
in the capital area, not 
necessarily in Saratoga and you 

586
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,600
want to try Green Fork, you can 
get it delivered Albany, Latham,

587
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,960
two spots in Clifton Park, 
Saratoga and Lake George. 

588
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,100
And. 
And then when you say to get 

589
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,100
delivered like you're going to 
deliver it to those like drop 

590
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,980
points or they'll get it 
delivered right to their house, 

591
00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:25,540
to the drop to the drop points, 
got it. 

592
00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:28,180
So they could go to their gym or
gym close by that if they didn't

593
00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:30,580
even go to that gym, doesn't 
matter, but and they can go pick

594
00:27:30,580 --> 00:27:33,420
it up there, right. 
And that that allows me to, you 

595
00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:37,020
know, spread my reach a little 
further and help more people. 

596
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:41,740
And it also saves me from having
to drive door to door in Albany,

597
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:45,170
you know, not going to do that. 
What's What's the price point? 

598
00:27:45,170 --> 00:27:47,450
I'm sure that and which I know. 
I'm sure it fluctuates depending

599
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:50,490
on food costs and things like 
that, but yeah, I've set it at 

600
00:27:50,490 --> 00:27:55,010
14, I've only I started at 12 
years ago and I've only raised 

601
00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:58,250
the price by a dollar twice, and
that's just because of 

602
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:59,370
inflation. 
You. 

603
00:27:59,410 --> 00:27:59,890
Know. 
Well, yeah. 

604
00:27:59,890 --> 00:28:01,530
Your food costs have had to have
gone up. 

605
00:28:01,610 --> 00:28:03,930
They did stupid amounts. 
Quite a bit, yeah. 

606
00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:06,050
Especially, you know, during 
COVID. 

607
00:28:06,090 --> 00:28:07,690
Yeah, just got a little crazy 
there. 

608
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,000
Yeah. 
Between deliveries and supply 

609
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,920
chain problems and yeah, 
everything. 

610
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,880
Like Turkey used to be like 399.
Now it's $8. 

611
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,520
I gotta tell you, I don't know 
if you'll know the the answer to

612
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:25,600
this, but I so I'm at the 
grocery store on Friday and I'm 

613
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,240
looking, you know, I'm looking 
at, I'm looking at steak and I'm

614
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,880
looking at burger and I'm just 
looking at the prices, which are

615
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,320
ridiculous. 
And anyone that goes in the 

616
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,200
grocery store knows it's 
absolutely ridiculous. 

617
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,700
And then I see chicken breast. 
And there it was like probably, 

618
00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:41,020
you know, it's a half breast, 
right? 

619
00:28:41,060 --> 00:28:44,580
And there must have been, I 
don't know, eight or nine of 

620
00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:47,100
them in the package and it was 
like 899. 

621
00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:50,060
And I'm like trying to figure 
out how that chicken is so 

622
00:28:50,060 --> 00:28:50,860
cheap. 
Like, is that? 

623
00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:52,420
Is it even real chicken at that 
point? 

624
00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:55,100
It's not good. 
You don't want that chicken, you

625
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:55,500
know? 
Right. 

626
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:57,700
That's why I'm like, I'm like do
I buy this right now? 

627
00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:59,220
I'm like this is stupid cheap 
but. 

628
00:29:00,070 --> 00:29:02,070
Like, what are they feeding that
chicken? 

629
00:29:02,270 --> 00:29:04,310
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of gross. 
Yeah, right. 

630
00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:07,950
They pump them full of hormones 
and stuff to make them grow real

631
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:10,110
quick, and they feed them the 
cheapest stuff they can find. 

632
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:12,950
And the chicken tastes like 
rubber. 

633
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:14,190
And that's how they sell it, so 
cheap. 

634
00:29:14,270 --> 00:29:17,110
You know, it's it's gross. 
Yeah, it was perplexed. 

635
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:18,790
Yeah, we don't use that stuff. 
We use. 

636
00:29:18,790 --> 00:29:20,830
Really good. 
That was good, yeah. 

637
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:24,910
We try to get as clean and fresh
as possible, you know, with all 

638
00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:28,610
the ingredients that we use. 
It's really tough though. 

639
00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:31,050
You know, we could probably have
a whole conversation on the 

640
00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:35,810
state of agriculture in the 
world and in the US and it's 

641
00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:40,330
scary and it it's terrible. 
But you know, I think one of the

642
00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:43,170
best things you can do is to 
support local by as local as 

643
00:29:43,170 --> 00:29:48,130
possible. 
And just be aware of that stuff,

644
00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:52,230
you know, good versus what's 
what's really good, you know. 

645
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:55,710
So everything we do is 
antibiotic free, it's hormone 

646
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:59,270
free. 
I would really love to use local

647
00:29:59,270 --> 00:30:02,030
products, you know, local 
chicken stuff, but but 

648
00:30:02,030 --> 00:30:04,030
unfortunately the farms aren't 
big enough to supply what I 

649
00:30:04,030 --> 00:30:04,550
need. 
I. 

650
00:30:04,550 --> 00:30:07,950
Was going to say I think who's I
think probably the one of the is

651
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:12,990
it Buckley's over now Buckley's 
they can't supply you know I 

652
00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:16,550
need like 40 pounds of chicken 
breast a week. 

653
00:30:16,550 --> 00:30:18,350
A week. 
Yeah, they can't do it and Missy

654
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:21,220
Noel could, but very expensive. 
Yeah. 

655
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:23,140
So I get the best products that 
I can. 

656
00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:26,340
I work with a company 
performance that works with 

657
00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:29,660
regional farms. 
So you know, I do the best I can

658
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,410
within the the matrix of the 
agricultural. 

659
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:37,570
Yeah, I go on a whole kick about
factory farms right now, man. 

660
00:30:37,690 --> 00:30:41,890
I'll tell you. 
Put my tin foil hat on and start

661
00:30:41,890 --> 00:30:44,130
talking about how I'm trying to 
extricate myself from shopping 

662
00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:45,850
at the grocery store. 
That's like, my mission in life 

663
00:30:45,850 --> 00:30:47,210
right now. 
Yeah, be a local bore. 

664
00:30:47,490 --> 00:30:49,890
Yeah, that's one of the best 
ways to do it, you know? 

665
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:51,820
Local bore. 
I've never heard that term. 

666
00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:53,700
I love it. 
I need a hat that says local 

667
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,620
bore. 
Yeah. 

668
00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:55,980
Oh, for sure. 
That's amazing. 

669
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:59,820
Yeah, I've got this like theory 
out on how we should all be 

670
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:02,140
eating regionally, you know, and
locally. 

671
00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:04,940
And we we could totally self 
sustain that way. 

672
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:07,020
But you know, The thing is, you 
wouldn't be able to have 

673
00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:09,540
tomatoes in the winter, right? 
It just wouldn't work. 

674
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:12,180
Or avocados at all. 
And I love avocados. 

675
00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:14,140
Man, you'd have to sacrifice. 
Quite a bit. 

676
00:31:14,140 --> 00:31:16,380
That's a tough one. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

677
00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:18,850
We'll figure it out, yeah. 
There's a lot of cool ideas 

678
00:31:18,850 --> 00:31:23,410
around that stuff and if you dig
into there's some good to it. 

679
00:31:23,410 --> 00:31:26,170
You know, there's a lot of 
history and and things that you 

680
00:31:26,170 --> 00:31:29,970
can learn from the follies of of
the agricultural system and the 

681
00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:31,810
and the way that we've done it 
so far. 

682
00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:35,620
Rape and pillars, the earth and 
yeah, have all these huge mono 

683
00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:38,260
craft farms. 
There are better ways to do it, 

684
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:40,580
and a lot of folks are starting 
to wake up. 

685
00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:43,780
To that no till regenerative 
farming man that's what we're 

686
00:31:43,780 --> 00:31:46,540
working on out at the at the 
farm that's great. 

687
00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:50,340
It's creating that that no till 
regenerative system that you 

688
00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:52,780
know just gets everything back 
kind of into balance the way 

689
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:54,940
it's supposed to be. 
Yeah, biodiversity. 

690
00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:58,700
The soil better. 
Not using inputs, chemical 

691
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:01,900
inputs like fertilizers and all 
those things in order to keep 

692
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:03,580
your. 
You don't need it if you're. 

693
00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:07,070
You know, doing certain things 
on your farm with livestock and 

694
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:07,750
everything else. 
So. 

695
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:09,750
Right, right. 
And if you take it, use that 

696
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:12,790
chicken breast for example, but 
you know, transfer it over to 

697
00:32:12,790 --> 00:32:15,790
like a carrot, right? 
So an industrial grown carrot 

698
00:32:15,790 --> 00:32:20,150
that's huge and it's super 
cheap, is mostly water, You know

699
00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:21,990
there's no nutrients in that 
carrot. 

700
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:26,070
But if you take a carrot from 
your farm where it's been fed 

701
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:29,990
with tons of good nutrients, 
fresh soil, it's going to be way

702
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:32,750
tasting, way better, but also 
much more full of nutrients. 

703
00:32:32,790 --> 00:32:33,910
Yeah, healthy. 
Yeah. 

704
00:32:34,350 --> 00:32:36,630
That's how I recently read an 
article about these oranges 

705
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:38,430
coming out of. 
I won't say where they're coming

706
00:32:38,430 --> 00:32:40,790
out of, but oranges with no 
vitamin C in them? 

707
00:32:41,270 --> 00:32:43,710
Yeah, because they're growing 
these things with just chemical 

708
00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:45,190
inputs. 
And while they're technically 

709
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:47,710
growing in orange, they're 
growing in orange with no 

710
00:32:47,910 --> 00:32:50,750
nutritional value whatsoever. 
It's crazy. 

711
00:32:50,790 --> 00:32:52,790
Yeah, that's sad too. 
Yeah, you know. 

712
00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:55,790
Yeah, scary. 
So that's, that's my goal really

713
00:32:55,790 --> 00:33:00,070
is to just help spread knowledge
more than anything, right? 

714
00:33:00,070 --> 00:33:02,350
Like, I can cook for you, I can 
provide your meals. 

715
00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:06,910
But really what I want to do in 
this community is be a voice of 

716
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:11,310
knowledge, you know, in terms of
real food nutrition. 

717
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:17,270
You know, how can you, how can 
you apply these food rules? 

718
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:19,110
You know, to quote Michael 
Pollan, who's one of my favorite

719
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:22,150
food authors, How can you apply 
them and just make good choices 

720
00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:25,130
about what you're eating? 
You know, because knowledge is 

721
00:33:25,130 --> 00:33:26,610
power, right? 
Goes a long way. 

722
00:33:26,810 --> 00:33:29,490
And so there's, like I said 
before, there's so much 

723
00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:32,570
misinformation and so much 
garbage out there regarding 

724
00:33:32,570 --> 00:33:35,610
nutrition. 
And it's really quite simple. 

725
00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:39,890
And so if I can educate people 
on that and empower the 

726
00:33:39,890 --> 00:33:42,450
community, you know, I think 
that's like the intro to this 

727
00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:44,530
podcast, right? 
Because like, you know, start 

728
00:33:44,530 --> 00:33:47,970
small and support your local 
community and then that helps 

729
00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:49,610
the whole world grow. 
Absolutely. 

730
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:51,540
So yeah. 
Yeah, if you want to change the 

731
00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:53,460
world, buy local. 
That's all you got to do, man, 

732
00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:55,620
right And and and be a local 
voice like. 

733
00:33:56,180 --> 00:33:58,660
Teach. 
Yeah, yeah, help everybody out. 

734
00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:02,420
Yeah, it's amazing. 
I just how many people are are 

735
00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:05,860
ignorant of like what food does 
in your body and and how it 

736
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:09,699
reacts in your body and bad food
and good food and and why you 

737
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:12,889
know like what eating. 
All that stuff from the grocery 

738
00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:15,330
store really is doing your body 
like, yeah. 

739
00:34:15,489 --> 00:34:17,850
It's pretty gross, Yeah. 
If you know where it comes from 

740
00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:20,010
and exactly what it is and 
what's what it's doing to your 

741
00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:21,889
body, you probably won't want to
eat it. 

742
00:34:21,889 --> 00:34:24,330
No. 
You know, And so many people 

743
00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:27,690
just don't have the education 
around that, so they don't know.

744
00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:30,090
So they think a hot dog is a 
good choice. 

745
00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:32,690
You know it's not. 
Or like eating. 

746
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,239
I won't use the brand name, but 
there's meat sticks that we all 

747
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,280
know love, you know? 
And then you look at it, There's

748
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,280
like things in there that are 
endocrine disruptors. 

749
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,679
And it's like, do you know what 
an endocrine disruptor does to 

750
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,480
your body? 
Because if you did, you wouldn't

751
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,199
be enjoying that meat stick ever
again. 

752
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Yeah. 
I mean, ever since I actually 

753
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,159
learned about nutrition and and 
what food really is. 

754
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,280
Yeah. 
I don't look at it the same. 

755
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,640
Yeah, anymore. 
You know, there's certain things

756
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,720
that I just won't touch at all. 
I look at it and I think it's 

757
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:03,990
gross. 
You know, a lot of things that 

758
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:07,190
come in packages are no good. 
That's a pretty simple rule to 

759
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:08,590
follow. 
Yeah. 

760
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:12,550
But but in terms of like actual 
real food too, like I look at 

761
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:15,750
everything is in terms of 
proteins, carbs and fats and 

762
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:21,350
like try to eat a rainbow. 
And so it's kind of skewed my my

763
00:35:21,350 --> 00:35:23,430
vision on food and reality, I 
guess, in a way. 

764
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:25,870
It's hard. 
It's hard sometimes to enjoy 

765
00:35:25,870 --> 00:35:28,430
food when you're like, Oh no, I 
need to get this much protein in

766
00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:30,890
so. 
Well, that's what Green Forks 

767
00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:32,970
does though, right? 
That's, you know, helps, helps 

768
00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:34,090
people not have to worry about 
that. 

769
00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:35,450
So yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

770
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:38,690
And like I said, more than 
anything, my vision for Green 

771
00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:43,490
Fork is to be a force in the 
community for spreading 

772
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:46,570
knowledge around nutrition and 
food and healthy eating and and 

773
00:35:46,570 --> 00:35:48,490
that type of stuff. 
That's awesome Wellness in 

774
00:35:48,490 --> 00:35:51,370
general. 
So, so people want to find you. 

775
00:35:51,370 --> 00:35:53,690
Maybe they're interested in your
meal prep service, or maybe 

776
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:56,210
personal training, or although 
at the amazing things that you 

777
00:35:56,210 --> 00:35:58,790
do, How do how do they find you?
You can go on my website 

778
00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:04,310
itseatgreenfork.com on Instagram
as Green Fork Eats. 

779
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:08,230
And my personal Instagram where 
I do some of my fitness stuff is

780
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:13,590
Zabala, under score PRML. 
And you can find me on Facebook 

781
00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:14,790
too. 
Steven Zabala. 

782
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:16,710
Awesome. 
Well, I appreciate you coming 

783
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:19,510
in, man, taking time to talk 
with us and tell us about what 

784
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:20,230
you're doing. 
Yeah. 

785
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:23,960
Thank you very much and thanks 
for being who you are and 

786
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,720
spreading the word on local 
businesses. 

787
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,480
We're trying. 
It's super important. 

788
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Like I talked about eating 
local. 

789
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,720
You also need to support your 
local businesses and keep things

790
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,000
in the community as much as you 
can. 100%, yeah. 

791
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,440
Appreciate it. 
Thanks, everybody. 

792
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,240
Thanks, Steven. 
Until next time, check us out, 

793
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,830
you can find us. 
Pretty much anywhere you get 

794
00:36:42,830 --> 00:36:47,750
podcasts these days. 
Spotify, Apple, Google, and you 

795
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:51,030
can also get us on our websites,
whether it's Saratoga, 

796
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:53,510
businessreport.com, 
glensfallstoday.com. 

797
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:56,230
And I think we may even have a 
listing on 

798
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:57,990
saratogatodaynewspaper.com as 
well. 

799
00:36:57,990 --> 00:37:02,150
So check us out everybody. 
Thank you, Derazio Peterson Law 

800
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:04,320
Firm. 
They believe in educating 

801
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,440
individuals about their legal 
rights, empowering them to stand

802
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,120
up for those rights, and guiding
them towards the right decision 

803
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,960
in difficult situations because 
legal problems are never 

804
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,640
one-size-fits-all. 
The superpower that every 

805
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,200
citizen has is the ability to 
control where they spend their 

806
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,000
time, money and attention by 
focusing these on supporting 

807
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,040
local businesses who are having 
a profound impact on your 

808
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,600
friends, your family and your 
local community. 

809
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So if you want to change the 
world, you can start with buying

810
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,760
local.
