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Welcome Buying Local, everyone. 
I'm Mike Nelson from 5 Towers 

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Media, joined today by a repeat 
offender over here on the Buying

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Local podcast, Jay Ingleson. 
Jay, what's up? 

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Not much man. 
What's this my 4th? 

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I don't know, I was thinking 
about. 

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It it's my 4th. 
I should have counted. 

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Yeah, 'cause the first one was 
at the Saratoga Today office. 

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Oh, that's right. 
And then I've done 2 here 

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already. 
Yeah. 

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And then, yes, this is number 4 
#4 welcome back #4 #4 Quattro. 

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You know, we like it. 
We'll look forward to #5 So Jay,

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obviously you've got a new book 
out which we're going to talk 

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about. 
And I'm very excited about your 

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book. 
Or the fact that I get to talk 

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to local authors because I've 
actually recently gone through 

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the publishing process twice 
recently helping out clients, 

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right? 
What a process. 

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Yeah. 
Like you Are you doing all your 

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stuff through KDP? 
I'm doing all my stuff through 

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KDP, yeah. 
Which stands for Kindle Direct 

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Publishing. 
Everyone, just in case you 

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didn't know. 
Here, let me move your camera. 

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Oh, there we go. 
There. 

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We go, that's a little better. 
I need a Jamie young Jamie. 

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I know, I know, How amazing must
that be, right I? 

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Know. 
I only need I also need Rogan's 

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money though to have a Jamie. 
I guess that. 

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Would be really. 
Nice, that would be pretty 

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sweet. 
I think it could get rid of the 

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zoom and. 
Great upgrade. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
They must have like a crazy 

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setup with like a maxi board 
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They get, I think they get a 
whole like another room. 

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Something right, like I, I was 
wondering I, I never watch his 

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show. 
I always listen to it. 

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So like I have no idea what the 
setup looks like and because 

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they, but when I'm listening to 
it, they'll be talking about 

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like, Oh, I'm looking up. 
I don't know if he's got a 

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laptop in front of him or if 
he's got a screen. 

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He's got a screen to his left 
and then Jamie's running 

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everything, I'm guessing from 
the control room. 

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Oh, control room, Yeah. 
Within seconds, he's already got

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something up. 
Oh yeah, he's like the master. 

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Googler and people are amazing. 
I just that just came out of my 

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mouth. 
How did you get it? 

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Yeah, How did you get it? 
It's so fast. 

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Cute. 
Someday. 

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Podcast goals. 
Yeah, they have a Jamie. 

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All right, So what the hell were
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You were helping local authors. 
Oh yeah. 

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Oh, KDP, KDP, Kindle Direct 
Publishing. 

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What a process that is. 
Yes, yes. 

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And I'm pretty proficient in it.
Now I bet you are. 

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Did you have to recently? 
So they like have some 

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shenanigans because we uploaded 
a book, published a book for a 

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client. 
And then all of a sudden they 

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came back and they're like, oh, 
you have to verify. 

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And they like pulled the book 
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yeah. 
And it was wild because the 

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clients like, what are you 
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And I'm like, it's not us, man. 
And he he had to like, go 

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through their support, which by 
the way, is terrible. 

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Oh, yeah. 
Because it's not like you 

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actually get to talk to anybody.
You actually, you e-mail you 

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basically you put the ticket in 
and then they only respond by 

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e-mail. 
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Yeah, that's a whole story we 
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Yeah, well, let's talk about it 
because it was so frustrating 

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and it took like 3 or 4 days and
finally they're like, oh, you're

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right. 
And meanwhile we're looking 

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online and everybody was having 
this problem. 

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Like it wasn't just him. 
It was a very common thing where

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they're just flagging books for 
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And what? 
Happened with me was I didn't 

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have any hiccups with the 
regular Kindle or the paperback.

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The hardcover was supposed to 
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Hardcover's still not out yet. 
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submitting because the hardcover
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dimensions and all. 
So submitting, submitting. 

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No, there, it's not right. 
It's not right, it's right. 

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I'm like, but it's right, which 
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Why I didn't release a lot of 
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is because the process was such 
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I just said screw it. 
So kept saying I'm like, I know 

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it's right. 
It's 100% by their specs, all 

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that stuff. 
I put an e-mail in. 

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What was that two weeks ago? 
I haven't heard back it, but 

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it's that's the normal like one 
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look, there it is. 
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for having little hiccups and 
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that they're having any of these
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like, like try to fix it, but 
they don't know what they're 

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fixing. 
It's weird, very weird. 

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And then to not have a phone 
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Really frustrating, Yeah. 
And if you guys are actually 

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watching this podcast on YouTube
or Rumble, apologize. 

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Apparently I forgot to hit 
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So you're just staring at Jay's 
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the podcast. 
This is why I needed Jamie. 

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So I'm going to make sure the 
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I did hit record on the audio. 

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Thank God. 
I tell you one of the first 

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podcast, Well, for Blue Collar, 
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for our first Blue Collar 
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thing. 
It was three years ago now, we, 

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I forgot to hit record on one of
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We were using 2 cameras, 2 mics.
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doing, just fumbling through it,
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I think the title of it actually
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And it was terrible. 
And but we get done the whole 

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thing and I'm talking to Derek 
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bro, we got to re record it. 
I totally forgot to hit record 

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on my mic. 
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And the second time through was 
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first because we were trying to 
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first one. 
And and so yeah, the old rehash.

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Technical difficulties are a 
thing apparently in podcasts 

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and. 
You're getting married next 

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week, next weekend, next 
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Exciting, yeah. 
Waterfront Park in Saratoga 

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Lake, Yeah. 
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Doc Brown's. 
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Fun. 
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How long you guys been together?
We'll be together three years in

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October 3. 
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Yeah. 
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You know, waited till I was 
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Yeah, well, up in the water I. 
Mean listen, man, you know, 

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happens sooner or later 
hopefully, right. 

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That's congratulations. 
That's amazing. 

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Appreciate it. 
I'm a fan of marriage yeah. 

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And. 
All the look forward to it. 

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Yeah, it's fun. 
It's nice to know that you like 

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you're coupled up, you know, 
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It's like a whole. 
Partner thing yeah like 1 driven

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place together and you gotta 
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Yeah. 
You're working on stuff together

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as a team. 
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we're going to be going in the 
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Yeah, hopefully moving out of 
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Carolinas. 
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NS looking at South, but I think
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next year because we're we're 
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year, but we're going to wait 
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we're going to do a little bit 
of searching nice sage graduates

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her sage graduates and her son 
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we'll figure things out in the 
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Got to tell you, I've been to 
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and I want to say extensively, 
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years. 
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three years ago, went to North 
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The year before that, we went to
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10 days in there in each one of 
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SC the second trip, the last 
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That's. 
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and I think that's where my 
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The. 
Hospitality's just it was. 

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Amazing. 
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We got a house on Folly Beach 
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It was really cool. 
Everybody's driving around golf 

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carts. 
Yeah, that's the best. 

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Yeah, you. 
Need a golf cart? 

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Well. 
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went to, we did like the 
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Virginia, went to like the 
Jamestown settlement and all 

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that stuff. 
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Went to Virginia Beach and then 
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then we came home. 
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hospitality aspect of things 
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we're from it's. 
It's a different way of life, 

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man. 
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Got the New Yorkers, of course, 
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I get a lot of the the Canadian 
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yeah. 
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Where are you? 
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I know you're from Whitehall, 
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Whitehall I live in, Queensbury 
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Queensbury. 
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I meant to ask you that. 
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ask you that, though. 
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And let me just apologize about 
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We. 
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the island. 
We are apple chewing. 

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Yeah, I. 
See that on your video? 

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The other. 
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year for apples. 
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applesauce and jarring it or 
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canner and but, but now we've 
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house, it's like, I don't even 
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And we get one of those ugly 
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I don't. 
Know yeah they have the new 

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things that you can buy that 
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they ZAP them and. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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Walmart's got some. 
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We've got some homemade remedy 
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and that's. 
What Apple? 

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Cider vinegar, that's what. 
I do with the the fruit. 

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Flies. 
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I think it works for regular 
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I cut a water bottle in half and
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inside of it and then they fly 
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Fly in, get stuck. 
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Sorry. 
Sorry for people or fun. 

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The People for Ethical Treatment
applies that's. 

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Right. 
That's right. 

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I'm sure they're out there. 
So let's talk about the book. 

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So you mentioned your daughter 
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like the book's kind of about 
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grandchild a little bit too. 
Yeah, there's there's basically 

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most of the 100, you know, 
instances of only so many times 

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has been through her. 
Sometimes it's just like all of 

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us in a hole that are girl dads 
and stuff that we go even boy 

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dad. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like these little moments that 
are we think we're going to have

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so many and we only have, you 
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like when I first started 
writing and I never told anybody

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I was writing this book. 
I had like almost complete two 

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months behind nobody knowing 
like hiding well. 

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Well, here comes somebody. 
Close it up. 

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Shut the thing. 
What are you doing? 

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Nothing. 
It's just going back and like 

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thinking of like only so many 
like dance recitals only so many

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even like there's little muddy 
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know, winter days where they 
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sit and watch TV and eat popcorn
or eat ice cream for breakfast, 

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that type of that type of stuff.
So as I like it started 

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snowballing. 
I just started like, well, what 

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if I added this to it? 
And then I think of other people

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I know, like when I was growing 
up, like my mother, like 

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different stories and all, my 
grandmother was basically the 

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the raiser of my mom and, and 
her siblings. 

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But when, when my grandfather 
was there, it was like that was 

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the important time that they got
with him because he worked on 

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the tugboat. 
So, you know, he's gone two 

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weeks at a time. 
So when time was important, you 

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know, they, they, they, they had
that time. 

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So what? 
Tugboats. 

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Tugboats on the canal. 
On the canal. 

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Oh, no kidding, 50. 
Something years bringing. 

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Stuff up and down the canal ways
and. 

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And they they actually went on 
strike. 

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I think it was like 92. 
And that's when he retired. 

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But he had grown up on him. 
He's working on him from 14 

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years old on Wow He. 
Ended up he. 

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Died at 92 years old, eight 
years ago now. 

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But the stories, I bet the 
stories, it's actually I can 

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segue into that. 
I have another fiction book 

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coming out at the end of 
probably I'm going to release it

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on Halloween. 
But in between there, I came up 

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with this. 
My grandfather's name was Paul, 

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but he didn't want to be called 
Gramp. 

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So when we would go out to 
restaurants, it would be hey, 

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call me, call me Uncle Paul, 
call me. 

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Paul, so my. 
Majority of my life was Uncle 

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Paul just or called him Paulie 
until he passed away. 

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So I, I came up with this 
concept of he's a sea Otter and 

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he's telling all these stories 
and I was, I'm illustrating them

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as, as it goes. 
Not now. 

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I haven't announced that yet, 
but. 

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Well, you did know you're here 
first. 

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That'll be that'll be out before
the end of the year. 

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But getting like all the ones I 
can remember. 

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But then I want to like 
interview like like my cousins, 

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the ones I might not remember or
like my mother can tell me or my

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uncle that type of stuff. 
But yeah, there. 

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I'll, I'll tell you one story 
and then we'll go back to this 

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book. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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My grandfather didn't like 
sitting still and he was, I 

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believe he's like 8889 and he 
couldn't drive. 

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He hadn't screwed up his back. 
So he had one of them hover 

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rounds. 
Now they live out in the 

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outskirts of Whitehall like. 
Dresden, OR. 

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No, like out in the country 
toward like between Fair Haven 

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and actually between Hampton and
Whitehall Stalker Road. 

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And it's pretty ways. 
And there's this hill called 

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Burnt Hill and it's a good grade
up. 

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And my uncle was basically 
taking care of him and he snuck 

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out. 
He takes the hover round down 

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Burnt Hill, which is in a feat 
in itself of how he didn't get 

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killed, gets a phone call. 
Hey, your father is in town. 

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He's at his sister Sally's now. 
She lived to be, I think 80 

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something years old too, and 
visited her, didn't tell 

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anybody. 
Well, my uncle didn't know he 

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left. 
So we're all getting phone calls

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around. 
Yeah. 

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Your grandfather drove his hover
around down Burnt Hill. 

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I'm like how he didn't die 
because like going they call it 

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around the mountain and people 
speed around there and it just. 

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But that's the way it was. 
He didn't want to sit still and 

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drove until I think he was 8889 
and still partied with his 

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buddies. 
He used to go up to Walmart and 

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tie and buy stupid shit just to 
back. 

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Just to have something to do 1. 
More story. 

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Yeah, he he did. 
You take the hover round over to

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Walmart and tuck this. 
Is when he could drive him and 

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his buddy Henry Gurney both. 
They're both passed away now, 

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but Henry is this big tall dude.
My grandfather is this little 

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short guy, so I can imagine them
walking through Walmart up there

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in their late 80s. 
He buys the magic bullet, comes 

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home, I'm there. 
I don't know why I can't 

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remember. 
I was there, used to magic. 

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Bullet The. 
Magic bullet blender thing. 

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Oh yeah. 
So I'm sitting, he's got this 

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little table like in the dining 
room, and there's the kitchen. 

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Well, he's like, hey, Jay called
me. 

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Big Jay. 
Hey, Big Jay. 

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Look, I got a magic Well, Yeah. 
And he's blending something. 

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Blending something. 
And I don't know if he blended 

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milk with a slices of ham or 
water with slices of ham, but he

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made himself a ham smoothie and 
drank it that. 

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Sounds delicious. 
So I was just like, yeah, OK, 

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just he just bought stuff to 
they. 

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Made him different back that 
man. 

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Just just to entertain himself. 
Oh man, you made a ham smoothie 

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that sounds. 
So gross. 

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Yeah, a ham. 
Smoothie. 

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That was my grandfather in 
nutshell. 

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But there's many when that book 
comes out, it's going to be it's

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pretty funny. 
Some of the some of the stupid 

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shit that he's done, some of the
amazing things he's done. 

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Why'd? 
You pick an Otter because. 

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The boat, he had a yacht when I 
was younger, actually, they had 

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it up, probably it was his 
brother Jeans, which he's still 

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alive when he's 94 and he still 
golfs in Florida and all that 

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stuff. 
He had a yacht called the Sea 

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Otter. 
And then we put two and two 

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together and then my grandfather
had a, an old charter and Lake 

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Champlain called the Wally 1. 
So there's there's some stories 

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with that boat in itself that 
you wouldn't believe, but 

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they're 100% accurate and true 
and crazy. 

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But yeah, like for all men and 
as a sea outer just to so it 

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wasn't like too vanilla. 
I just wanted to splice it up a 

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little bit. 
And he's wearing his veterans. 

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He was a war. 
He was a World War 2 veteran. 

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So he had his veterans hat on 
and most of these adventures. 

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Yeah, it's it's pretty 
interesting. 

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What? 
A a wild thing to grow up on a 

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tugboat on the canals and then 
work your whole entire life on 

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them. 
He was an engineer. 

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Like, maybe I have this 
romanticized vision of what that

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would entail in my mind. 
But it sounds so cool. 

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Like, what a way of life it must
have been. 

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I'm sure it wasn't easy. 
And, you know, there's and it's 

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not all puppies and kittens, 
like, anything. 

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But just the idea of it, though,
it just sounds really cool to 

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me. 
Yeah. 

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I remember going on, we would 
like jump in and Whitehall, we 

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jump in and like come stock then
ride, ride it up. 

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But I think when I was younger, 
I went a little bit farther. 

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But being so loud in them, I 
don't like how do you sleep and 

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then have the you got your 
little galley and kitchen? 

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Yeah, but he was an engineer and
he worked on and fixed them for 

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50 plus years. 
Wow. 

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That these do so much shipping 
up and down there and they don't

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do any shipping up and down 
anymore Now it's just 

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recreational craft he. 
Worked for the Kehoe brothers or

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forgot his his first name 
anyway. 

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Martin Kehoe, Martin. 
He worked for Martin Kehoe 

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Company and then he I think he 
went a little while with 

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somebody else. 
I'm not positive, but yeah, it 

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was he had there's a whole book 
I can just do with adventures. 

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And then there's the whole his 
back story and the. 

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History is. 
Amazing. 

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Ran away, ended up I think with 
a relative for a while. 

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Ended up on the canal and I 
remember him telling me a story 

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that he hadn't seen his father 
in a long time and they had 

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intersected on Lake Champlain, 
wave to each other, and that was

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the last time you seen him. 
Oh. 

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Wow. 
Yeah, it's it's. 

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It's pretty interesting, yeah. 
It sounds interesting. 

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Isn't it wild to think about 
like I, I experienced this with 

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my uncles currently where 
they're talking about stories 

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from their childhood or about my
grandfather, you know, their 

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father or my great grandfather 
and telling all these old story 

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and they're just like all I'm 
like, wow, that could be like a 

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movie man. 
And but I'm wondering like, is 

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it just because I think it is 
cool or would it really be an 

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like it seems like it'd be a 
really. 

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And I just feel that so many 
everyone kind of has that right?

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Like you start going back 2 
generations and just what a 

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different way of life and how 
interesting and fascinating and 

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hard, right? 
Yeah. 

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He's in two books I believe. 
I think one of them is called 

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Low Bridges and High Tide or 
something like that. 

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And then there's another one. 
But yeah, he was a big reader. 

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Like his room was filled with 
books and he was doing 

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supplementation like amino acids
in the lake. 

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Before it was early 90s. 
He would buy the when they had 

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Vitamin World and they had the 
Body Fortress ones, he would buy

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them in bulk. 
Hey, Big J, try these. 

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Try these. 
Good for you. 

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Maybe that's why I lived the 92,
yeah. 

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Yeah, and most of the except 
from one brother, they lived to 

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be. 
Really. 

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Really like in their late 80s. 
And then of course Jean is the 

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one only left. 
There were seven kids, one girl 

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and then the rest were brothers 
and they all fought in World War

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2 except 1 Marshall or World War
2. 

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Marshall was the youngest he he 
came after, but Jean was the 

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second oldest, third old. 
He's still alive. 

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He lives in Florida. 
He has his pilot license 7. 

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Kids, seven kids, you don't hear
that much anymore either. 

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And. 
They all they all live together.

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They they had lived in hand me 
down clothes all went to A1 room

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schoolhouse and yeah he had he 
ran away and that I think before

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14 actually, but it's. 
Wild man. 

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Yep, the, the seven, the, IT was
so common for people to have and

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I know everybody, I know birth 
control and all the other things

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that we have now, but like, it's
just so wild to think about, you

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know? 
And like you, you read, I mean, 

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I read stuff all the time about 
the population that's collapsing

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and countries around the world 
and we're on the wrong and all 

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that stuff. 
And it's like just a generation 

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ago, all it took was a 
generation, maybe 2 and for 

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people to stop having kids like 
they used to. 

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I'd have 100 kids if I could 
afford it. 

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I had the time. 
You know it's wild, man. 

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Yeah, you can't. 
We can't go out to eat tonight. 

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Why? 
Because I can't afford. 

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Because. 
There's seven of you, $900. 

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Bill, you guys are going to 
share Mac and cheese? 

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I'll tell you, I mean, we don't 
ever go out to eat and not 

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because there isn't great 
restaurants, because there's a 

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ton of them, but we just never 
do it. 

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And but when we do, the rare 
occasion we do, it is freaking 

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expensive, man. 
Yep, like. 

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Just for two of us to go out to 
eat. 

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I mean, it's 100 bucks easy, 
yeah. 

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We went to Florida this past 
year, not this year, but last 

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year. 
I think I spent like a little 

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over 2 grand just in food. 
Yeah, though, yeah, it was. 

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It's crazy. 
I don't know how anybody affords

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it. 
No, especially this day and age 

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things. 
Just keep getting more expensive

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it seems. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

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I keep reading other stuff as 
the economy is booming so I 

440
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don't know. 
That I paid $3 for gas today. 

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I mean, apparently that's the 
cheapest it's been in years. 

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I'm still, I'm still unhappy 
about the $3. 

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I know that it's cheaper than it
was, but I'm like, where's that 

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00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,160
$2.00 stuff? 
So when we were kids, 90. 

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Six cents. 
Oh, I remember that too. 

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Got my. 
License. 

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That's because we're old back in
the early 90s. 

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Not the mid 90s, not the mid 
90s. 

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Started approaching the dollar 
and change. 

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I would take that man. $3 and I 
could drive around town for 

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three hours afterwards. 
Yeah. 

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And then park the car for a 
week. 

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Yep. 
We had a big V8 engine too, so 

454
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,120
it didn't. 
It didn't last very long. 

455
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,440
So I know we want to get back to
the book, but I, I wanted to ask

456
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,280
you, I was thinking about this 
earlier and, and we probably 

457
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,960
talked about it on one of the 
other podcasts, but how did you 

458
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,000
get into writing? 
This is your third book, right? 

459
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,040
4th. 5th book. 
It's my fifth one. 

460
00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:56,040
Oh. 
Jeez, I guess I didn't find. 

461
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,600
Books and I have two journals. 
OK. 

462
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,040
So how what? 
What started it all? 

463
00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,320
Started writing in the early 
90s. 

464
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,120
Just love. 
Letters and love poems and just 

465
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,560
exponentially I still have I was
just talking about this the 

466
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,280
other day. 
I still have my notebooks from 

467
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,800
like economics class or English 
class with me jotting down back 

468
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,320
then it was because I was 
listening. 

469
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,680
I was heavy into Megadeth. 
So I would like listen to their 

470
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,360
lyrics and then I'm like, God 
could write this on but 

471
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:29,480
different and I would do that. 
But and then it started to 

472
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,720
evolve into like totally wash 
all my feelings on that stuff. 

473
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,200
Like I didn't realize like back 
back then when I my parents 

474
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,120
split up when I was 14, I lost 
one of my close cousins in 1990.

475
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:46,440
I was just turned 13. 
And back then you don't really 

476
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,760
know how you you cope with grief
or you cope with anything. 

477
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,400
I didn't at least until now, 
looking back and going, well, I 

478
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,760
wrote that I must have, I needed
to get that stuff out. 

479
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080
And the direct correlation of, 
yeah, I really did like when my 

480
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,640
parents put up, I knew it was 
coming before it happened. 

481
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,960
So I'd like kind of brace 
myself. 

482
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,480
But I would always tell anybody,
yeah, it was no big deal, blah, 

483
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,840
blah, blah. 
But then I read some of the 

484
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,280
stuff and go, well, maybe it 
was, but subconsciously I was 

485
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,120
letting it out. 
But consciously I really didn't 

486
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:15,640
know what else. 
So. 

487
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,000
It's just kind of like a 
catharsis. 

488
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,560
Yeah, very. 
Yeah, very. 

489
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:24,600
And just just in the last couple
months, realizing that type of 

490
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,920
stuff, of course, when you get 
older and you look back and you 

491
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:33,360
go, whoa, yeah, yeah, then yeah,
I kind of covered that up with 

492
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:38,040
that and fixed that with this. 
And it's a it's a cool thing to 

493
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,880
look back and then understand 
where your mindset was. 

494
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,160
Because again, when you're a 
kid, you don't really. 131415 

495
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,240
years old. 
I don't, I'm, I'm cool. 

496
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,720
I don't. 
I don't. 

497
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:51,760
Yeah, My parents split up big. 
Yeah. 

498
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,760
But then you read stuff from 
like, it was 11th grade, so I 

499
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,720
was at 1617 like. 
Do you realize that maybe it was

500
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,920
hitting you harder than you 
realize at the time? 

501
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,800
And I didn't because like now we
understand emotions and how to 

502
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,800
control them and or you know, 
how to deal with them and what 

503
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,120
they are. 
But back then we really think we

504
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:13,160
do, but we really don't. 
Like, why was I so angry? 

505
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,280
Like, why did why were my 
friends so nervous to be around 

506
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,760
me when I would drink in my 
early 20s because they were 

507
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,840
worried I was going to kill 
somebody or something like that.

508
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,080
And then you go, oh, that's 
because I love it. 

509
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,880
That was some a little bit anger
issues. 

510
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:31,160
And yeah, now I understand. 
Like that's the, that's the 

511
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,760
stuff I like looking back on and
then seeing where it's evolved 

512
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,040
and like. 
See, that sounds like the stuff 

513
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,440
that I'm laying in bed and I'm 
trying to fall asleep and I'm 

514
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,840
thinking about all these bad 
decisions I made in my 20s and I

515
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,840
was like, oh, my God. 
I'm just shaking my head in 

516
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520
embarrassment on myself. 
Yeah. 

517
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Oh, there's some. 
Of those moments, too. 

518
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,840
How? 
Many moments were like, like I, 

519
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,480
I remember my friends, I'll dive
into this quick. 

520
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,720
Everybody would like do 
mushrooms and stuff like that 

521
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,600
and they would never let me 
touch any of that. 

522
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,360
And I've never had. 
And now I know why because they 

523
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,320
were afraid that I was going to 
have some crazy trip and go 

524
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,920
ballistic, go out of control. 
Yeah. 

525
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,920
And out of control. 
And. 

526
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,640
And now looking back and reading
some of my stuff and like, no 

527
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,000
one were. 
I was in certain spots and then 

528
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,320
thinking that I had it all, like
I'm good, but I wasn't good. 

529
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,240
Yeah. 
And I think we evolved to the 

530
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,640
point where, like you said, you 
lay in bed and go shit. 

531
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Wow. 
I wonder how it made people feel

532
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,480
bad. 
And like I said. 

533
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,000
This or I did that and where 
would I have gone and like I 

534
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,960
mean we've touched on this 
before and me going up to 

535
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,080
flubber Busters and getting 
fights just. 

536
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,960
Yeah, I don't know we had that 
conversation online or offline, 

537
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,240
but I I was thinking I was like,
yeah, you've told me some some 

538
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,960
stories. 
I'm like back and go wow. 

539
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,400
Flubber Busters I'd. 
Definitely be in jail by now, 

540
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,920
but it'd be cool if they had 
camera phones back then because 

541
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,360
it's true. 
Could you imagine a thinking 

542
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:03,360
about like those adventures that
you had at Flubber Busters back 

543
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:04,880
in the day? 
Imagine doing that stuff not 

544
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,160
like you would. 
Most. 

545
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Certainly be in prison. 
You know 100% you. 

546
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,840
Like you can't do that stuff 
anymore. 

547
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,480
It's just wild how the world has
changed in so many ways. 

548
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,160
You can't just walk into a bar 
now and not look for a flight 

549
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,720
but wait for one. 
That's what I would do. 

550
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,120
And like almost every weekend, 
like on a, like on a good night.

551
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,400
It was, yeah, it was some 
interesting shit, that's for 

552
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:27,920
sure. 
But. 

553
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,960
Yeah, I was actually just 
thinking yesterday about back in

554
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,360
the day, back in my 20s. 
And like, you know, we would 

555
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,960
either go to Denny's over on 
Quaker Rd. after the bars would 

556
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,360
close or we would go to Steve's 
place and wild that fights would

557
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,280
happen at both of those places 
at 3:00 in the morning, right 

558
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,800
We. 
Would try. 

559
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,720
We would go over to Denny's in 
Rutland, oh, afterwards and then

560
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,680
and then poor people. 
I, I know there was no fights, 

561
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600
but I can imagine that story. 
It was. 

562
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,400
A show for sure. 
Shorter like. 

563
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,640
People passed out on the next to
you in the booth or, you know, 

564
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,720
throwing food at each other. 
I can't imagine them poor 

565
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,920
waitresses and I'm sure they 
weren't tipped. 

566
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,000
Apologize all of you right now. 
Sorry. 

567
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,120
Sorry, Clara. 
Still remember your name? 

568
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:17,720
I'm so. 
Sorry, I'm so sorry. 

569
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,080
It's so funny. 
So so you just kind of started 

570
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,520
writing like not on purpose, 
like I'm going to write a book, 

571
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800
but it just kind of was 
something that helped you at the

572
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,920
time getting those things out. 
And then So what was the 

573
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,480
catalyst? 
Do you write in your first book 

574
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,760
and actually putting it out 
there the. 

575
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,240
Catalyst was I had so much 
material from like I still have 

576
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,760
stuff I printed off from 
98992000 and I started looking 

577
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760
through stuff. 
I started writing more stuff for

578
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,440
the the first book, but I'd 
always wanted like I have 

579
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,160
publishers market the thick book
you would buy at Barnes and 

580
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,960
Noble. 
I still have a couple of those 

581
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,000
because I was like, yeah, I'm 
going to get published. 

582
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,480
This is like 2002, 2003. 
I just never never really did 

583
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,680
anything with it. 
And then it was late 2020, the 

584
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,680
whole COVID shit. 
And I just started going through

585
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,320
it and adding to it. 
And I'm like, I think I'm going 

586
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,680
to publish. 
And then I got online and 

587
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,720
started reading about KDP and 
how to do this because I had 

588
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,240
sent like some stuff into like 
publishing companies before 

589
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,240
that, but you never hear 
anything back ever. 

590
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960
And I looked into literary 
agents and they were too 

591
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,080
expensive, blah, blah, blah, 
blah. 

592
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,720
So I'm like KDP sounds like the 
best route to do this without 

593
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,000
any overhead, any not to pay 
some guy, you know, like we 

594
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
talked about it before looking 
into, you know, getting 

595
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,600
published and like got to have 
5000 up front or like that type 

596
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,360
of stuff. 
So I just did that and slowly 

597
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,040
learned how to do it myself and 
create the cover and, you know, 

598
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,240
put this here and put that there
and then, you know, send it in. 

599
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,080
If it kicks back, then I'll 
change this. 

600
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440
And now it's it's like second 
nature. 

601
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,760
I can blow through it and get 
done whatever, but. 

602
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640
It's I mean, we're you know, 
we're complaining about the 

603
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,800
shenanigans with KDP, but it is 
surprisingly simple compared to 

604
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,720
what the publishing process was 
even 10 or 15 years ago, let 

605
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,400
alone 20 years ago. 
And the fact that anyone to your

606
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,440
point, right can anyone can 
publish a book and you just you 

607
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,920
know, like you don't have any 
cost like well, aside from your 

608
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,000
IBSNIISBNIBSNI always mix up 
those IS. 

609
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,920
BNI. 
SBN Yeah, which I still haven't 

610
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,160
figured out the point to the 
ISBN because I think that's. 

611
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Where you can, they can just 
track it just. 

612
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,560
Get. 
Just know just. 

613
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,080
More more tracking, but it is 
it's so simple and anyone can 

614
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040
you know it. 
It removes that barrier that 

615
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,920
used to be in place for getting 
something published. 

616
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,920
And I like how I can like I, I, 
I sell the majority of the books

617
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,480
either through the Kindle thing 
or when I buy them myself. 

618
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,160
And then I sell them to like 
friends or whatever and stuff. 

619
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,400
This one and the first one, 
second one, like I say, is 

620
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,360
always that was my favorite. 
This one I can't read. 

621
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,160
Full disclosure, I cannot read 
this book without crying. 

622
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,600
I couldn't write this book 
without crying. 

623
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,880
And Jen has picked on me a 
couple times. 

624
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,320
She actually, hey, Jen, you 
filmed me trying to read the 

625
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,880
book and I couldn't get through 
it. 

626
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,600
Yeah, I just get because it's so
no audible version. 

627
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,920
Yet then no, it's. 
Funny because I'm actually, I'm 

628
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320
working on the whole audible 
thing, but I'm going to have to 

629
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,240
have somebody else do it because
I don't think I can keep the 

630
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,200
quietness around to be able to 
record it. 

631
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,520
Yeah, especially I have 
neighbors and all that stuff. 

632
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,680
So are. 
Motorcycles going by like we had

633
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,840
a little bit, yeah. 
And I have, you know, 

634
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Skimmerhorners show up and mow 
the lawn and it's God awful 

635
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,320
loud. 
Yeah, yeah. 

636
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,040
And yeah. 
So I looked into AI that'll I 

637
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,440
think it's like 100 bucks. 
You can pay them and they'll do 

638
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,200
it for you and have it done like
finance. 

639
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,080
I'm like, how's that even 
possible? 

640
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,920
But I. 
Don't know, All that stuff's 

641
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,000
pretty wild, yeah. 
Yeah, I, I Full disclosure, I 

642
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,200
used AI to edit this book. 
Yeah. 

643
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Absolutely. 
Why wouldn't you? 

644
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,000
Because. 
I'm the horrible speller as an 

645
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360
author, horrible. 
Fix my spelling mistakes. 

646
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,800
Horrible at, you know, grammar. 
Yeah. 

647
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Grammar. 
Is hard anyway. 

648
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Punctuation even worse. 
That's why my first book has no 

649
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,680
punctuation to read it. 
But I did it that way because I 

650
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,720
wanted it to be different. 
And I had talked to like a 

651
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,720
couple other people that had 
written books and I'm like, what

652
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
do you think if I don't like put
quotations? 

653
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Is that like he's like, no, 
that's your book, Do whatever 

654
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,720
you want. 
Yeah, you read it sideways if 

655
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,880
you want. 
It makes sense to you. 

656
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,240
It's eventually going to reach 
at least somebody that's going 

657
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,320
to be like, oh, that was pretty 
cool. 

658
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,480
But if you read the first book, 
there's really no the. 

659
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Grammar police out there. 
Yeah, I tell you, every single 

660
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,200
blog, every article, every 
single thing I've ever written, 

661
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,920
I always have people picking 
apart my because I, I just, I 

662
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,960
write the way that I think, 
right? 

663
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,080
So it, it just comes out in 
paper, like exactly how it is in

664
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560
my head. 
I throw way too many commas in 

665
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,400
there. 
I throw a semi colon somewhere 

666
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,720
where it doesn't need to be. 
I love parentheses. 

667
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Yep, same here, you know. 
Like if it's like a side thaw or

668
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,720
something, that's like a 
interior thought to the sentence

669
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,880
I just wrote. 
Like I was just going to put 

670
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,560
that in parentheses man Why? 
I hadn't. 

671
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,600
I had to like relax on the 
exclamation when I would message

672
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,400
people or text them. 
Like why? 

673
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,320
Why do I need it? 
Why do you need the the Well, 

674
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800
I'm having a bearing fart, an 
exclamation on the end of that 

675
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200
sentence. 
I'm like, I don't know you want.

676
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,520
To keep it up being I do the 
same thing. 

677
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,000
Are you yelling at whatever? 
What? 

678
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,000
We didn't need parentheses to 
say you're going to the store 

679
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,520
and be right back. 
Well, 'cause. 

680
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,400
I mean, here's the deal with 
text messaging. 

681
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,280
If you just end it with a 
period, it's kind of flat and it

682
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,840
could be taken in a negative 
connotation, right? 

683
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,760
And or negative tone. 
So I throw exclamations on 

684
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,640
there. 
And if I really mean it, then 

685
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,600
there's two. 
Same here. 

686
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320
I don't make the rules guys. 
That's just how it is, man. 

687
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,480
Whatever. 
But yeah, no AI on the proofing.

688
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880
I mean, why wouldn't you? 
The only thing I don't like 

689
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,160
about AI proofing, as I've 
noticed, like with articles and 

690
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,600
things, 'cause we use AI to 
prove our our articles and it'll

691
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,520
sometimes delete things that I 
want in the article and we'll 

692
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,760
change it in some fashions and 
I'm reading them like, where the

693
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,280
hell did that thing go? 
Why'd you do that? 

694
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,880
Yeah, why? 
And then I'm like, so now I have

695
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360
to prompt, do not delete 
anything. 

696
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,400
Keep all content proof for 
grammar, spelling, punctuation. 

697
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Yeah, pretty much. 
And then I put, well, you know, 

698
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,400
I didn't even know. 
And then I didn't know it was 

699
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,280
doing it and I put in like a 800
word article and I was like 

700
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560
proof this. 
And then it shoots out a 400 

701
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,560
word article at me. 
And I'm like, I know that I'm a 

702
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,880
little wordy sometimes, but a 
50% reduction I did not. 

703
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,160
Need that. 
Some heavy editing there. 

704
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,360
All right, here, let me see the 
book so I can hold it up to the 

705
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,239
camera so so you guys can see it
because I love the cover. 

706
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,639
That's actually me, and that's 
Sage when she was probably a 

707
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,920
good seven years old. 
And that bear that she's holding

708
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,320
in her hand, she got when she 
was first born. 

709
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120
She still has that bear today. 
I hadn't made it a little bit 

710
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,199
bigger because it's a little bit
smaller in real life, yeah. 

711
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,159
So that's a real picture that 
you then used. 

712
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:29,840
Did you use AI to help generate 
the image? 

713
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,040
The AI's everywhere. 
That's that's a picture. 

714
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:37,080
I actually, I went through seven
different incarnations of the 

715
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,560
yes, I think it's a great cover.
I have this actual picture of us

716
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,840
walking towards the camera too, 
but the original cover was I had

717
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,080
like she was I piggyback riding 
and she we're both looking at it

718
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,360
and I just, I wanted something 
to like we're walking this 

719
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,639
together. 
Yeah, I think. 

720
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,679
This is great too, though, 
because I mean, to me it's kind 

721
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,440
of indicative of like you're 
talking about the past, right? 

722
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,760
So what's behind you guys as, as
the, you know, the picture of 

723
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,680
you and your daughter are 
walking away from it? 

724
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,560
I think it's, I think it's 
really telling. 

725
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,800
I think it's great. 
And with the clock, I ripped the

726
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960
clock off the Back to the 
Future. 

727
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,400
That was my Oh, nice, that's my 
little Easter egg from Back to 

728
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,720
the Future in there. 
Very. 

729
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:21,480
Nice. 
Yeah, and then it's got the the 

730
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,480
thick ham Hock in my neck. 
It happens as we get older. 

731
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,160
So the name of the book only so 
many times the dad clock, right?

732
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,200
So tell us about the book. 
Without crying. 

733
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,400
No, no. 
It's it's these these moments 

734
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,600
that we think are unlimited. 
I mean, you can attest to it 

735
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,160
where you just think that, you 
know, even going to the movies, 

736
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,240
how many times you really go to 
the movies or sit and watch or 

737
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,800
you know, they sit on your lap 
and there's like they grow out 

738
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,520
of that. 
So or you know, even getting 

739
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,600
them ready for school doing like
doing her hair like I miss all 

740
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,080
like that little the little 
intimate things that might not 

741
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,480
mean much then. 
But like looking back, it's 

742
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,360
like, wow, that was really big 
and trying to realize that some 

743
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:25,880
people miss them and I couldn't 
imagine ever like my my favorite

744
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,960
one in there. 
I forgot. 

745
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120
I need my cheaters. 
I. 

746
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,480
Think tomorrow mine these are 
only 1.75. 

747
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,360
Like only so many trips to the 
playground, Only so many 

748
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,640
birthday candles, only so many 
art projects. 

749
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,400
You know, there's only so many 
snow days. 

750
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:55,200
I'm trying to find where they 
look for you in the crowd. 

751
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,680
Dance recitals. 
Yeah. 

752
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,520
Only so many questions. 
You'll be there the first to 

753
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,720
hear. 
They run to you. 

754
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,880
Not Google, not a friend. 
You. 

755
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Because they think you know 
everything and maybe you don't, 

756
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
but what matters is they still 
think you do. 

757
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:18,600
I don't know what that one is. 
This is it's, it's funny because

758
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,400
I went through like I sent you 
the first like incarnation via 

759
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,600
e-mail, But I, I think I changed
a couple things like I deleted 

760
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,880
some stuff and I added, but this
one is like no truer today than 

761
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,560
it was when I when she was 
younger. 

762
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,720
It's only so many times they 
laugh at your dad jokes. 

763
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,360
You're not funny, but to them 
you are for now. 

764
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,040
One day the jokes get eye rolls,
so tell them why they're still 

765
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,680
laughing. 
And this book is dedicated to my

766
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,880
daughter by the way, too. 
And then I, you know, I finish 

767
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,880
it with only so many times. 
That's the truth. 

768
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Only so many mornings, only so 
many rides, only so many tiny 

769
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,760
shoes off, giggles and sleepy I 
love yous. 

770
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,840
One day you won't know it's the 
last time. 

771
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,080
So treat every time like it 
might be. 

772
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,640
Because it might be. 
And we got through it without 

773
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,480
crying you. 
Did I know? 

774
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,240
I was just thinking we're going 
to have to show this to your 

775
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,800
almost wife so she can see you 
did it. 

776
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,280
See. 
Yeah, I did it. 

777
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,200
I did it. 
Well, I had the manuscript I, I 

778
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,080
printed out or she ended up 
printing out the manuscript that

779
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,720
worked for me one day and we're 
in bed and only got, I could 

780
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,280
only get the 40 and I just got 
and she's like, are you going to

781
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,720
be alright? 
I'm like, yeah, it's just like, 

782
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,960
that's my heart on the page 
there. 

783
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:41,920
And then when I did get the 1st 
proof copy, I'm literally on the

784
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,560
couch reading and she's filming 
me. 

785
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,120
Come on, you can do it. 
Can't do it. 

786
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,480
What do you or how do you deal 
with the vulnerability of 

787
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,480
putting work like this out 
there? 

788
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,600
You. 
Know I I the first one was the 

789
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,920
worst yeah, 100% one of the 
worst. 

790
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:10,160
Like the basically I contributed
to running out in the middle of 

791
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:16,600
a football field naked and 
everybody sees you and how much 

792
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,440
more vulnerable could you be? 
I mean, looking around and 

793
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,920
there's couple 1000 people 
laughing, pointing or whatever, 

794
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,760
crying maybe like I went through
so many emotions that the night 

795
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,200
before like I was I think I was 
a prick to pretty much everybody

796
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,960
and I didn't understand how I 
was going to react if it didn't 

797
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,400
go well and then it went so well
and then I'm like again, that 

798
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,600
whole imposter syndrome comes 
in. 

799
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,280
But with this one, I think the 
more I do them, the more I like.

800
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,880
I don't really give a shit 
anymore, you know? 

801
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,360
There's no vulnerability. 
This is me. 

802
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,760
If you don't like it, you don't 
have to read it. 

803
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,200
Do you think that's an age thing
or? 

804
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,400
I think 100% just. 
Because you're older and wiser 

805
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,840
and calmer. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

806
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,640
Our testosterone levels aren't 
what they used to be. 

807
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,960
It's. 
It's in the three hundreds, the 

808
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,200
three. 
Hundreds man, you got to get 

809
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,160
some TRT. 
Around there, yeah, go back on 

810
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,120
it I. 
I mean, that's just a huge thing

811
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,280
for All authors, but I 
interesting that you say it's 

812
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,640
because you're older, not 
necessarily because of getting 

813
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,800
reps in of having five of them 
out there. 

814
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,840
In life in general, I've 
totally, there's some things 

815
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,640
that even two years ago that I 
probably would have lost my mind

816
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,440
and flipped out over. 
And now I'm just like, I don't 

817
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,880
care. 
I don't care enough. 

818
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Like I'm trying to think of a 
good, I don't care enough to 

819
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,160
worry about what other people 
think anymore. 

820
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Before it was like, again, the 
first couple books were like 

821
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,280
very scary and I wondered what 
people were going to think. 

822
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,600
And then it's like, why am I 
concentrating on the people that

823
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,280
are this small fraction that are
in a fucking book? 

824
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Who cares what are you doing? 
Like I'm doing what I like. 

825
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,480
I'll go back. 
I'm putting it. 

826
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,840
Out there, man, I'm. 
Putting it out there, it's the 

827
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,880
man. 
In the arena, right? 

828
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,400
And I'm, I'm realizing and I did
a TikTok. 

829
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,160
You're on TikTok? 
Yes. 

830
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,480
I have 59,000 followers. 
Do you really? 

831
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Yeah. 
Holy shit, Jay. 

832
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,640
Ingleston. 
I think it's Jay Ingleston. 

833
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,000
Yeah, I I put up the book. 
I do inspirational stuff and 

834
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,720
like some funny stuff. 
That's like a that's like 

835
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,000
influencer. 
I'm an influencer. 

836
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Yeah, I get, I get a lot of free
cool shit sent to me. 

837
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,480
Like out of the blue the other 
day. 

838
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,160
I open this package and it's 
from this company that makes 

839
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,960
like the the folate stuff. 
They sent me one of them and 

840
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,080
then there's this big jug. 
I forgot the name of the 

841
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,080
company. 
Sorry. 

842
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,120
They said you're. 
Missing an opportunity here. 

843
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Whoever your name is, the. 
Shirt is a true classic. 

844
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,520
Shirt True Classic has hooked me
up with free stuff a couple 

845
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Times Now, so I did a commercial
we'll have. 

846
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,320
To make sure, we mention True 
Classic in the. 

847
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,920
Was free I did a commercial for 
them but this company I think 

848
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,160
it's true Vienna something like 
that sends me this huge jug and 

849
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,400
I'm like what the hell is that 
it was probiotics where it could

850
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,240
just mix it with stuff and then 
I get like I get these collabs 

851
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,400
all the time and you can tell I.
Love that we keep looking at the

852
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,200
cameras and keep. 
Speaking to the that just they 

853
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,200
just sent out to the like the 
bigger influencers and they 

854
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,800
don't look at the the content 
because I get a lot of women's 

855
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
hair care products and 
cosmetics. 

856
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,320
There's probably an AI chat bot 
that is just coming up. 

857
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,640
Got to be because. 
Yesterday it was eyeliner. 

858
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,480
I'm like, I'm not doing the 
eyeliner thing, but I get a lot 

859
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,800
of I. 
Mean you got those blue eyes 

860
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,520
that are really making pop, Jay 
women. 

861
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,320
'S sportswear I get that felt 
like sports bra I'm like Jesus 

862
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,120
it's. 
A new world? 

863
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,520
So it's funny because when I 
initially got on TikTok, I had 

864
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,560
no inclinations and I did this 
one and it went viral and it's 

865
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,640
got almost 1,000,000 views now. 
Like my total like footprint on 

866
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,400
TikTok, I've got well over 2 
million like views on all all 

867
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,400
and stuff. 
And the way the the algorithm 

868
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,720
works right now is like I'll 
look at it and like one will get

869
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:11,440
5000 views then one will get 
like 400 and and that type of 

870
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,440
stuff. 
But I've been maintaining up At 

871
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,920
one point I was like 63,000. 
But a lot of them were chat much

872
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,000
big bots that they like fake 
accounts. 

873
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,360
I got like a thing in the like 
in my messages saying they're 

874
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,520
going to kill a lot of these 
bots and I've done this shit 

875
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,800
down to like 60 and now I'm 
hovering around 59,506 hundred 

876
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,720
whatever. 
That's pretty cool. 

877
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,560
Yeah, I, I'm. 
Actually just did my 

878
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,480
verification for the blue check 
2 days ago. 

879
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,600
I'm waiting for the reply on on 
on TikTok. 

880
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,880
Oh. 
They have a blue check on TikTok

881
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,840
too. 
We have a farm account on TikTok

882
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,840
for chapter house farm farming. 
I don't know if I have any 

883
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,840
followers. 
I think I've put one reel up. 

884
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,000
I've looked at it once, I'm just
not a tik toker. 

885
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Will you follow me? 
Do some shout outs to your 

886
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,520
audience so I can get get some 
people I'll help. 

887
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,600
You. 
Yeah, I've, I've helped quite a 

888
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,800
few people on there. 
I'm gonna. 

889
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,280
I'm gonna start posting more pig
contacts. 

890
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,120
We just got some some piglets. 
Well, I. 

891
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,040
Tried to get saves to come with 
me so they go no more. 

892
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,400
I'm like, you've got animals. 
Yeah, we got well. 

893
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Right now all we have is pigs 
and chickens and a couple of 

894
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,920
ducks out there. 
She. 

895
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,840
Had chickens, but something 
killed them a couple years ago, 

896
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,200
yeah. 
Mine are actually shut up in the

897
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,240
coop right now because we've 
been losing a chicken a week to 

898
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,720
the foxes and I got tired of 
that last. 

899
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,800
Time I was here you had turkeys,
we. 

900
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Did. 
Yeah. 

901
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Well, you know, we won't talk 
about those. 

902
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,640
Turkeys were funny, though. 
They would follow me around the 

903
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,120
farm like dogs everywhere. 
My wife's got videos of me just 

904
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,560
walking around. 
Six turkeys following me around.

905
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,520
They were funny. 
Or like one day I open up the 

906
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,480
front door and we don't even use
the front door. 

907
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Open up the front door. 
All six of them are sitting 

908
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,680
there looking. 
I'm like, what are you guys 

909
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,840
doing? 
They're pooping all over the 

910
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,680
steps. 
They were. 

911
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,240
Bright white ones, weren't they?
Yeah, they were. 

912
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,280
Yeah. 
Yeah, those are. 

913
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,440
What were they call? 
Oh, shit. 

914
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,840
I can't remember what kind of 
Turkey it was. 

915
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,040
It's like a white breasted 
Turkey. 

916
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,960
They were called delicious for 
sure. 

917
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120
But yeah, no, we just got, we've
got our old Sal out there, 

918
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,560
Penelope, she's like 8 years 
old. 

919
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,400
She's just old and old and 
grumpy. 

920
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,720
All she does is she sleeps all 
day and then when I go twice a 

921
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:19,040
day, I go out to feed her. 
She gets up, walks out to the 

922
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,240
food dish, eats and then walks 
back and then. 

923
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,600
But we've just, we've got 5 
piglets out there right now. 

924
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,160
I got to pick up some more this 
weekend and or next weekend, I 

925
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,400
think. 
But yeah, like the winter pigs, 

926
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,040
you raise them over the winter, 
sell them the market in the 

927
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,120
spring, and you. 
Had the little black one last 

928
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,400
time. 
Zach. 

929
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Yeah. 
Zach Dine. 

930
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,680
Yeah, It's kind of tragic, 
actually. 

931
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,320
He was a really cool pig. 
Yeah, he was. 

932
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,840
He was just a pet pig. 
He would run. 

933
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,760
He's like a dog. 
Yeah, He literally falls all 

934
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,960
around. 
He was freaking hilarious. 

935
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,840
And yeah, unfortunately, Zach 
died. 

936
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,960
That's part of farming. 
I'll tell you, that's the 

937
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,200
hardest part of farming. 
It's been the hardest thing for 

938
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,560
me is losing animals like you do
everything you can for them and 

939
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,080
at the end of the day sometimes 
it's a parasite sometimes it's 

940
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,640
predator. 
Like I feel guilty even when a 

941
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:12,240
fox takes a chicken I feel bad 
like it's rough but what are you

942
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,000
going to do right? 
So anyway, back to TikTok and 

943
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,080
you're 59,000 followers is 
amazing $59. 

944
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,960
I guess I should be on TikTok. 
I don't know I just I actually 

945
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,120
been spending too much time on 
social media recently. 

946
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,680
I've been trying. 
To cut it down a little bit, but

947
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,760
it's not it doesn't work these. 
Flies are outrageous. 

948
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600
I'm so sorry I put I. 
Was doing a lot of like face to 

949
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,200
face videos and then I put that 
thing in my basement. 

950
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,120
I was doing a little bit, but I 
usually like throw up some of my

951
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,680
quotes from the books with a 
nice picture and buying throw 

952
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,280
them up like that and stuff. 
I put one up when Sage was I 

953
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,440
think like 2 1/2 years old, 
almost three, looking for a 

954
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,680
mouse that that actually got a 
quote of previews. 

955
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Yeah. 
She's like, I'm like, where's 

956
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,680
that mouse? 
What are you looking at? 

957
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,400
Where's that mouse daddy go? 
What are you going to do when 

958
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,920
you find it deadpan to the 
camera and says punch it in the 

959
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,200
nuts? 
I'm like, what? 

960
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,800
She goes punch it down down to 
the floor. 

961
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,120
Hilarious kids. 
Are cute, man yeah, they're 

962
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,760
funny now she. 
Would punch people in the nuts, 

963
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,200
yeah. 
Now she's a grown woman, right? 

964
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,400
Like it's wild. 
But to your point and of the 

965
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560
book, right, like, yeah, it goes
quick. 

966
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,720
Life is fleeting. 
Time with your kids is fleeting.

967
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,000
We're doing. 
We're doing the getting her 

968
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,200
hours in for a road test and 
she's got to take her FireWire 

969
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,400
course. 
She's going to junior year, 

970
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,320
going to BOCES for auto mechanic
right now. 

971
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Good for her. 
She might switch it up, she said

972
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,560
today. 
So we'll see. 

973
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,040
Stay. 
In the trades, that is where 

974
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,880
it's at. 
She bought. 

975
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,160
Steel toed boots this weekend. 
Awesome, She's. 

976
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,720
Gearing up for wrestling season 
already. 

977
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:53,720
She was. 
She's a little more than what 

978
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:57,200
she wanted to weigh, so she'd 
been dieting so I was like 6 lbs

979
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,840
in less than a week. 
Sucking weight. 

980
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,680
I can't eat that. 
I'm like OK, and then call me 

981
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,280
while I'm in bed at like 10:00. 
Can you go get ice cream? 

982
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,280
No, it's 10:00. 
One getting ice cream. 

983
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,760
Now she in the the Queensberry 
female wrestling Whitehall. 

984
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,280
Oh, it's Whitehall. 
Queensberry doesn't have them. 

985
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,400
Well, I thought they just. 
Started. 

986
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,440
No, my buddy Brayden that I used
to do jiu jitsu with, his kids 

987
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,120
are both into wrestling. 
His daughter, she, I remember 

988
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,320
our kids when they're little, 
little like four or five years 

989
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,200
old, were doing jiu jitsu 
together and she was a beast. 

990
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,680
But I think she wrestles. 
I know his son Zach's still 

991
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,440
wrestling and is pretty good, 
but God, I want to say it was 

992
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,520
like they're doing something at 
the mall. 

993
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,200
Yeah. 
They're they have the 518 

994
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,120
grapplers up at. 
The mall. 

995
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I told sis she should drop in 

996
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,360
one day because I went up there 
with King Mall probably six 

997
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,720
months ago. 
He was, he just showed up. 

998
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,880
He was doing a wrestling event 
in the food court and 

999
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,320
disappeared. 
I'm like, where the hell are 

1000
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,600
you? 
He's like, I'm down in the 

1001
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,440
basement. 
I'm like, the mall won't have a 

1002
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,640
basement. 
So I just happened to walk and I

1003
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,880
look in and he's in there 
teaching class. 

1004
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,800
He just popped in and started 
teaching class. 

1005
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,200
So they were like, I was telling
one of the owners that my 

1006
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,200
daughter wrestled and she's 
like, yeah, tell her to stop in 

1007
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,800
and gave me how much it was 
going to be. 

1008
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Yeah, like you should. 
She's like, go do. 

1009
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,800
But we'll see my. 
Daughter talked about wrestling 

1010
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,880
for a little bit, but then she 
changed her mind. 

1011
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,320
She was doing jiu jitsu for a 
while. 

1012
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,560
She was talking about doing 
wrestling and but she was 

1013
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,800
talking about doing it at the 
school and I think the whole boy

1014
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,760
thing was just too much for her,
which is why it's amazing that 

1015
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,920
they have like women so that 
they can just have girls 

1016
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,720
wrestling with girls. 
It's weird from last year's like

1017
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,320
girls in the tournaments, it was
a lot. 

1018
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,840
But this year, this past season,
holy shit, going to the 

1019
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,880
tournaments, it was like doubled
what it the girls that were 

1020
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,440
there. 
I mean they have enough girls to

1021
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,760
do sectional champions and she, 
Sage, qualified for sectionals, 

1022
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,640
went to the qualifier, went to 
the qualifiers, finished 7th. 

1023
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,280
But she doesn't understand 
that's a huge deal for somebody 

1024
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,800
who's only been wrestling 2 
years. 

1025
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Yeah and like where do we go 
from like this year and all that

1026
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,960
type of stuff? 
So we'll see, but. 

1027
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,120
She likes it. 
It's amazing. 

1028
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,720
I love seeing that the, you 
know, a lot of the like 

1029
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,720
alliances got a great women's 
program over there now for jiu 

1030
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,680
jitsu and I'm sure some of the 
other schools do too, where it's

1031
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,560
just, I think it's very helpful.
Oh for sure, I. 

1032
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,080
Know my daughter she she was 
going to school and she was 

1033
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,200
going to sea quarters and then 
schedule wise and location wise 

1034
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,720
was just hard for us. 
So we took a little time off and

1035
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:45,920
then she was going to alliance 
and the very first class 

1036
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:53,520
alliance we go in and it's me 
her and a bunch of dudes and so 

1037
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,040
and she's like A2 stripe white 
belt, right So she had to go 

1038
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,600
into the beginner's side. 
They bring her into the room. 

1039
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,840
This is when they're still in 
the dock and A and they she came

1040
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,320
back from that. 
She was so pissed at me. 

1041
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,480
She's like dad, I had the rest 
with I had the I had to roll 

1042
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,480
with like this 30 year old man 
like and I was like, hey, 

1043
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,080
listen, I'm like, unfortunately 
there's no at that time there 

1044
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,800
was no girls only program. 
I'm like, it's just part of it. 

1045
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,680
And I said then to be fair, 
honey, like it's kind of a 

1046
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,440
lesson on life. 
If you do things that are 

1047
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,440
uncomfortable and hard on you 
now, you're going to be a 

1048
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,920
monster later on. 
So when you start tapping out 30

1049
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,560
year old men when you're 15, you
know, like she got over it. 

1050
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040
She really got into it and 
really liked it for a bit, but 

1051
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,360
then school just got too busy 
for her. 

1052
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,240
But yeah. 
It's going to be interesting 

1053
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,640
this year at the house. 
She's going for a job interview 

1054
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,000
tonight or talk to somebody 
about a job tonight. 

1055
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,080
She worked at the KOA campground
over in Castleton during the 

1056
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520
summer. 
She put her name in at the 

1057
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,240
Lodge, Greg Escape Lodge, and 
then she's got to talk to 

1058
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,400
Downtown City Tavern about a 
Hostess job tonight. 

1059
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,800
Oh my. 
God I love their wings. 

1060
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,520
So do I. 
They they, I don't know. 

1061
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,040
The wood fired wings are just so
amazing. 

1062
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,840
Fall off the bone. 
Yeah, they're so good. 

1063
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,680
And what is that? 
That wasabi frickin whatever 

1064
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,520
sauce. 
I don't know what the Hell's in 

1065
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,160
it. 
Like there's a balsamic blue 

1066
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,960
which is really good and then 
there's some wasabi something or

1067
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,920
other. 
Wasabi Korean. 

1068
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,720
Barbecue, I don't know what it 
is, but man, it is good. 

1069
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:35,200
Shout out to DDTCT over there. 
So I know we're getting close on

1070
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,760
time here. 
If people want to find you, they

1071
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:44,960
want to find your book. 
Amazon.com, Jason Ingleston, all

1072
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,680
there'll be 5 books on there. 
In my 4th book or third book 

1073
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,200
that I wrote is on 
barnesandnoble.com, which is 

1074
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,400
basically just dead in the 
water, hasn't really sold 

1075
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,200
anything. 
This actually debuted. 

1076
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:04,200
It's still on the top 50 as of 
yesterday of new releases for 

1077
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:09,040
the fatherhood category on ebook
and paperback. 

1078
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:12,400
Highest it got on the paperback 
was fourth. 

1079
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,000
So debuted really good and they 
hang in there, which is good 

1080
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,040
because the first one debuted 
like top, you know, in the top 

1081
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,480
100 books, which is huge like 
coming. 

1082
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,040
Around, yeah. 
So when this one debuted, like 

1083
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,520
it was as long as I can keep 
that momentum because again, 

1084
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,760
Amazon sees you performing, they
kick your book out more. 

1085
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,720
And Barnes and Noble don't do 
that. 

1086
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:45,600
So to debut like that and to see
like some of my analytics for 

1087
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,920
royalties and know like I know 
who bought the book. 

1088
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,360
And now I'm seeing like, oh, 
somebody and it's starting to 

1089
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,840
pick up, especially with the 
Kindle, a lot of people, because

1090
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,600
the Kindle price point is only 
$5.00. 

1091
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,360
But you have Kindle that the 
whatever, I forgot the name of 

1092
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,320
it. 
It's free with your Kindle 

1093
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,040
subscription. 
So it's, it's enrolled in that. 

1094
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,480
And then I enrolled this in the 
it's like a prize thing. 

1095
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,080
Do you? 
Still get paid if it's on the 

1096
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,800
free for Kindle. 
Like, does Amazon still pay for 

1097
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,720
them? 
Yeah, that's nice. 

1098
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Yeah. 
I mean, the royalty for the the 

1099
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,840
Kindle is a lot better than the 
the paperback. 

1100
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Well, there's. 
No cost to the Kindle for those 

1101
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,080
guys. 
You're 80, you're 8020. 

1102
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,880
This is 7030 but I do the is 
that. 

1103
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,840
Where they're at right now, it's
7030, Yeah. 

1104
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,520
This is 7030, but I do the 6040 
split because I put it out on 

1105
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,400
the mass market different like 
this is available and I forgot 

1106
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,760
the name of it like books.com or
something like that. 

1107
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,880
Or I can go overseas to a 
Japanese site and my books in 

1108
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,080
like Japanese. 
Like I thought that was cool. 

1109
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:49,120
My biggest thing is, and I this 
is my number one goal of being a

1110
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,840
writer is I submitted my second 
book to a huge publishing 

1111
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,720
company. 
I'm still waiting on the return 

1112
00:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,440
on that, but it's one that is 
very, very proficient and the 

1113
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,960
Target stores and Walmart. 
So I'm hoping that something can

1114
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,080
come up with that because that's
my that's my biggest dream of 

1115
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,520
being a writer is to walk into a
store. 

1116
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,240
That'd be cool. 
See your book on the shelf and. 

1117
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:14,680
Then I could probably retire 
now. 

1118
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,640
I'll never stop writing like 
writing this. 

1119
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,960
Like there was no like headache 
during it like writing the other

1120
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,720
ones. 
But I like there's times I just 

1121
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:26,560
want to like crow up on the ball
and go ahead. 

1122
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:29,320
I don't want to do this no more.
But with this one. 

1123
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,040
And then I wrote like a 
back-to-back once this was 

1124
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,120
finished. 
And I told people like I told my

1125
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,960
my fiance and Sage and like I 
got a book. 

1126
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,040
And they're like, well, I'm 
like, yeah, I wrote a book. 

1127
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,280
She's like you did. 
So I told him, but I go, yeah, 

1128
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,200
but I'm writing this one too. 
It's a fiction book. 

1129
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,320
It's called Echoes in the Walls.
And it's about a father and a 

1130
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:55,280
daughter and he loses his wife 
to an accident and they move 

1131
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:01,000
into this house and the house is
basically talking to them and go

1132
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:01,840
from there. 
Go from. 

1133
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,360
There. 
All right. 

1134
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,120
We'll have to read it. 
Yeah. 

1135
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,720
It's a it's a really easy read. 
It's not like a novel type 

1136
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,800
thing, but again, I think it's 
like 200 pages so. 

1137
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,120
Well, I love what you're doing, 
man. 

1138
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:17,200
I like there's so many people 
out there that want to write a 

1139
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,720
book and don't do it or start to
write a book and keep putting it

1140
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:24,520
off and it's. 
It's very fulfilling like this. 

1141
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,040
I think I'm coming out of that 
whole imposter syndrome thing 

1142
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:30,120
where I'm starting to feel like.
An actual author? 

1143
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,320
Yeah. 
I'm like, I'm actually starting 

1144
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,120
to get like goosebumps and 
things or being this, I think 

1145
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,960
this one being so emotional 
writing it, I think just said, 

1146
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:44,840
you know what, Like you're oh, 
see, now I'm going to get 

1147
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,440
emotional. 
No, you're a dad and you're 

1148
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,600
you're doing everything like I'm
doing everything I ever wanted 

1149
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,600
to do. 
Like, and I've said this before,

1150
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,600
I wanted to be an MMA fighter 
and I did. 

1151
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,360
I wanted to be a coach and open 
the gym and I did. 

1152
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,480
I wanted to be a promoter and I 
did. 

1153
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:05,160
And I want to be an author and I
always want to be a dad and I 

1154
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,520
want to play guitar and sing. 
I'm going to do that so. 

1155
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,920
Are you a good singer? 
Yeah, I actually. 

1156
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,240
I can tell everybody right now I
should have a song on Spotify 

1157
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:16,840
within the next couple weeks. 
Nice. 

1158
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,200
So amazing. 
These platforms, yeah, because 

1159
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,400
again, 20 years ago, you 
wouldn't be able to do it unless

1160
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,960
someone picked you up. 
Yeah, right. 

1161
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,880
That's wow, yeah. 
I actually recorded it in my 

1162
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,880
basement. 
You. 

1163
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,240
Could be like the next Oliver 
Anthony. 

1164
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,400
I can't really move my right arm
too much and I can't play very 

1165
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,040
long because of my shoulder, but
I it's actually the song I call 

1166
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,760
is something in the echo Nice 
and everybody I seem to be 

1167
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,320
playing for loves it. 
Like I record it in video and 

1168
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,920
then I transcribed everything 
over to audio and, you know, 

1169
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,520
edited a little bit with here 
and there and they come out 

1170
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,720
good. 
You're. 

1171
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,800
A real Renaissance man. 
So I hear I like, I went to a 

1172
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,320
party yesterday and my my buddy 
had my book and he showed this 

1173
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,280
guy and the guy's like, I always
wanted to write a book. 

1174
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,000
And I like, I got these ideas 
and it's be science fiction. 

1175
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,360
And I'm like, just do it. 
He's like, I'm 50 years old. 

1176
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,240
I'm like, oh, give me shit. 
Yeah. 

1177
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,160
What does that mean? 
Who? 

1178
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,200
Cares 50's the new 30 and I 
really believe that I. 

1179
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,560
Do too man, when? 
We were young and we would look 

1180
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,920
at 50 year olds and they were 
old. 

1181
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,400
They were old, I will never 
forget. 

1182
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,080
That's 'cause we're Gen. 
Xers, dude. 

1183
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,840
We're built different. 
We are built different I. 

1184
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,200
Remember being 18 years old. 
It was right before I graduated.

1185
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,200
And this is a core memory and 
I'd like, I remember stupid 

1186
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,240
shit. 
I remember thinking, wow, when 

1187
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,280
I'm 30, that's old. 
Like I'm going to be 30 in like 

1188
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,880
12 years. 
Holy shit, wild. 

1189
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,880
But now I'm like, I'm 48 years 
old. 

1190
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,600
I don't feel 48 and I don't 
ever. 

1191
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,040
I don't know if you feel the 
same way. 

1192
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,360
Do you ever think about how old 
you are? 

1193
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,240
Because I think a lot of people 
that really fixate on holy shit,

1194
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,200
like I'm almost 50 or that type 
of stuff. 

1195
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,200
I think it plays with your mind 
where OK, I'm going to feel the 

1196
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,160
way I you know what I mean? 
My grandfather was my 

1197
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,720
grandfather never thought about 
age. 

1198
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,280
And I think that's why they, 
they lived him and his brothers 

1199
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,600
lived to be so old because he 
was 88 years old, still chasing 

1200
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,040
women and living like he was 
1718 years old. 

1201
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,840
I mean, most 80 year olds, 90 
year olds, you think all right, 

1202
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,120
they're in either in a nursing 
home or they're not doing too 

1203
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,920
great. 
Him and his buddies are going to

1204
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,920
Walmart and buying magic bullets
and going to McDonald's and 

1205
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,880
picking on each other. 
Like I had that like I brought 

1206
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,080
him to quite a few like doctor's
appointments and stuff. 

1207
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,280
And I brought him to he went and
wanted to see his sister was in 

1208
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,720
the, I don't know, somebody he 
knew was in the nursing home or 

1209
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,040
in, up in Thai. 
And we went over to where he 

1210
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,920
hung out with all his buddies at
the the Thai McDonald's. 

1211
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,640
And to hear that they don't bust
their balls just like we would. 

1212
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,200
And I don't know which doesn't 
change which is good. 

1213
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,720
Yeah, I don't think. 
I mean, I joke around all the 

1214
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,800
time about being old, but like, 
I don't. 

1215
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:02,480
I certainly don't let being 48. 
Define any of the things that I 

1216
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,800
do on a daily basis. 
I don't. 

1217
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,840
Like, I hear people talk that 
way, and it's like, what are you

1218
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,200
talking about? 
Like, well, you know, I'm almost

1219
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,120
this age and I'm like, what the 
hell does that mean? 

1220
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,280
Yeah, go ahead and run a fucking
marathon. 

1221
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,080
Like do whatever you want to do.
Yeah, shit. 

1222
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,640
You're, I'm seeing you doing. 
I got to start doing that too 

1223
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,240
well. 
I'll tell you physically. 

1224
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,200
With my shoulder, I still I'm 
I'm very limited to on on stuff,

1225
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,520
but I can still kick over 
people's head and I can still do

1226
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:31,200
some like a split so. 
You know, I just, I don't know 

1227
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,640
from that, from like the 
physical standpoint of aging. 

1228
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,840
I just, I'm going to fight it 
tooth and nail. 

1229
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,480
I'm going to try to be as 
physically fit as I can for as 

1230
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,920
long as I can. 
And I, you know, it's funny 

1231
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,800
because I go to the doctors and 
get that check up and stuff and 

1232
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,720
they go, Oh, you know, you're 
going to start slowing down. 

1233
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,080
And I'm like, no, I'm not, I'm 
like, I'm not. 

1234
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,520
I just don't subscribe to that. 
I'm sorry, like not doing it. 

1235
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,160
I. 
Said I look at it this way, my 

1236
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,440
upper body with my shoulder and 
my arm stuff falling apart a 

1237
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,000
little bit, but I'm going to 
gauge it like I just said, if I 

1238
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,480
can still kick over people's 
heads or I can still do a semi 

1239
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,200
Roundhouse or you know any of 
them type of kicks, then I don't

1240
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,560
feel young or I don't feel old. 
I mean, I still feel like I'm 

1241
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,160
dead when I was started learning
that stuff before. 

1242
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,440
But you see people put a they 
put the governor on themselves 

1243
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,360
where I can't do that. 
Yeah, that's tear a muscle. 

1244
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Well, if you think you're going 
to tear a muscle, that's. 

1245
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,320
Well, said the governor. 
Yeah, I refuse to have that 

1246
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,880
exactly. 
And that's. 

1247
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,920
I know someone's probably 
listening to this and go on 

1248
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,000
like, all right, they're Peter 
Pan, like whatever. 

1249
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,680
I just, I'm not, I just, I think
it's too easy to be like, oh, 

1250
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,600
I'm just getting tools for that 
and stop doing things and and 

1251
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,400
then you're just dying at that 
point, so. 

1252
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,640
And I'm sure we've both come 
across people that are our age 

1253
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,640
that look like they're twice as 
twice our age and still, still 

1254
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,360
don't get it. 
Like, you're as young as you 

1255
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,840
feel. 
Yeah. 

1256
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,720
Like, there's days I do feel 
like I'm 90, but there's days 

1257
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,120
where I wake up and go. 
I think I'm in like a better 

1258
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:10,320
space of like being able to 
still like, you know, move like 

1259
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,960
I did when I was in my 20s, 
which I don't really remember 

1260
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,400
too much about my 20s. 
Maybe that's what it is, Jay. 

1261
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,960
Thanks for coming on board, man.
I appreciate it. 

1262
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,600
Always a pleasure. 
Thanks for coming out to the 

1263
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,480
farm. 
Check out the book on Amazon and

1264
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,560
buy like 10 copies to everybody 
and then follow. 

1265
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,080
Me on TikTok, yeah. 
That's good to say. 

1266
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,520
How do I be the subscriber? 
60,000 here on TikTok. 

1267
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,520
Find them on TikTok. 
Guys, yeah, find me on TikTok. 

1268
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,960
I'm really not proficient on the
whole Instagram thing. 

1269
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,560
I know quite a few people that 
are like Instagram aficionados, 

1270
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,400
but yeah, TikTok, tik. 
T.O.K it is. 

1271
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,640
Yeah, sorry, Sage, I'm on 
TikTok. 

1272
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,000
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1273
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,480
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1274
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,840
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1275
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,720
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1276
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,120
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1277
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,640
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1278
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,000
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