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Welcome everyone to buying 
local. 

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I'm your host. 
I almost forgot my name there. 

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I'm your host, Mike Nelson from 
5 Towers Media. 

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This is probably my fifth 
meeting, I think today so far 

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it's 1:00. 
You know, brain's a little bit 

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mushy and I still got a few more
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But I'm going to put my best 
foot forward here, Jacques. 

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And we're going to talk about 
Operation Give back before I do 

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though, Jacques, And so that I 
don't Messa, even though I've 

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known you for I think 25 years 
now, I, I'm still going to mess 

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up your last name, brother. 
So if you don't mind, just 

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introduce yourself to us real 
quick and but tell us a little 

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bit about who you are, what you 
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All right. 
Yeah, Jacquie Equie. 

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There it is. 
Spell it phonetically next time,

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Michael. 
Have it in front of you. 

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Yes, I think it's been about 25 
years. 

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Yeah, I am the founder and 
creator of 4S for Life, which is

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a local organization that 
benefits everyone dealing with 

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mental health. 
This event itself is geared 

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toward our veterans, which we 
all know can use all the help 

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that they can get. 
But I think over the years we've

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helped thousands of people. 
We've raised Jesus hundreds of 

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thousands of dollars for all 
different causes pertaining to 

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mental health. 
We've done an anti bullying 

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campaign, health and Wellness 
program in the Queensbury School

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Operation Give Back. 
We've did a lot during COVID, so

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sort of like you all over the 
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going. 
So yeah, man. 

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Got to be on that hustle, right?
Gotta. 

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Gotta. 
I don't know. 

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I I hear from people that they 
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just always like, what's that 
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I don't ever have time for being
bored. 

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Yeah, I don't think you do 
either with all the stuff that 

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you got. 
Going on. 

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No, I think you know what, I was
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with my wife the other day and I
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know, as you, you talk to men 
that are older and they retire 

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and they get and and once they 
lose their purpose, man, it 

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seems like you look at these 
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There's no desire there. 
They they just lose everything. 

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I mean, you have to stay busy. 
I think it keeps us young, it 

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keeps us active. 
It keeps us, you know, sharp. 

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And I think, yeah, I'm going to 
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ground, I think, or my wife just
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Well, I, to your point, man, I 
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key component that's missing in 
a lot of people's lives. 

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I think having purpose solves a 
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keeps you moving, gives you 
something to, to work for, live 

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for. 
And the purpose of our show 

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today is Operation Give Back. 
So let's, let's talk about that 

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man. 
Tell us a little bit about 

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Operation Give Back. 
All right, so Operation Give 

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Back is a military appreciation 
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It's a full day of music, food, 
raffles, such on for veterans, 

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their families and kids. 
Open to the public, 100% of the 

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proceeds go to local veteran 
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So over the last, this is Year 
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It's our fifth anniversary. 
It's consistently exponentially 

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built each year, but we've 
helped everyone from the 

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Adirondack Vet House, Operation 
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Saratoga, tons of VFWS, American
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pertain to veterans that we can 
help in any capacity. 

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We like to do that. 
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create a day and an atmosphere 
for our veterans, for them to 

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feel the love and support from 
their communities, you know, for

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the sacrifices they make and to 
come out and have that 

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camaraderie, the like they had 
in the military, you know, share

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stories, laugh and cry and just 
have a a great day and and a 

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great area. 
Slickman Brewing Company every 

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year is military owned. 
Chris and Heather March are 

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phenomenal people. 
They open their doors up every 

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year. 
They were one of the founding 

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partners, so myself, my 
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and also Alan Lapel from Vested 
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people that started it and now 
it's blown up to what it is now.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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guys are packing the house over 
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Is that, is that my 
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And I still like I was trying to
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can't remember, it was something
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couldn't get. 
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But yeah, I think honestly, so 
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to we'll say closing, which is 
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The last band is on at like 
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So it's, it's solo axe in the 
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duos and then we get into some, 
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it's probably like 1500 people 
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throughout the day at different 
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I mean, we're, we're packed at 
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The, the, I mean, it has a huge,
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Fin, you know, it has a tap 
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outdoor back patio area with a 
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It's all enclosed with the flaps
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That's seating for people. 
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There's cornhole boards, fire 
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It's it's just a really good 
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So you guys are on Rain or 

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shine? 
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extra big tent, normally 
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Hudson Falls. 
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an extra tent, so we have plenty
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tents and indoors. 
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donates their time, all the 
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We'll have three, hopefully 
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I know Al Lapel with vested Vet 
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I believe Stumpy's, which is 
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Stumpy's Pizzeria. 
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Wanted to be a part of it. 
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a third one just to, you know, 
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give people, you know, a little 
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because they're bringing kids 
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full BBQ meal, you know, get 
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pizza or a grilled cheese or a 
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that, you know, can keep them 
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So the the parents can stay and 
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raffles and silent auction 
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Right, there we go. 
There we go. 

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What is the What is the raffle 
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consist of? 
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honestly, I've had things mailed
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woodworking items, tickets to 
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hotels. 
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been to fundraisers, you know, 
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gardening baskets and Black 
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ton of stuff last year. 
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their coffee and they, they're 
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typically, you know, at the and 
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have shirt sponsors of any 
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Obviously 5 Towers Media is a 
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You know, you guys are on the 
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great way for them to advertise 
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businesses, you know, especially
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when people see that you support
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more than likely support your 
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It's 100 bucks to sponsor, you 
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500 shirts. 
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not going to find cheaper 
advertising than that. 

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I think I'm a serious Jacques 
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about this in past years on the 
show, but for anyone that's just

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getting introduced to Operation 
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how did this whole thing even 
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And I think you said is it Alan 
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Heather and Chris March. 
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Sitting around having a beer one
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I, I, yeah, we frequented. 
So my brother-in-law is a Marine

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and you know, a lot of the, 
their clientele is obviously 90%

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military. 
And we, you know, we go down and

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have a, a good craft IPA, 
something just hang out, you 

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know, have a cigar Outback, you 
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that with your, with your, with 
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And I was just sitting at the 
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and I'm looking around the the 
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I said, there's no events in the
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military where everything goes 
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I said, what would you think 
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appreciation day? 
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Heather's eyes lit up and she 
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She pulled her husband Chris 
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She goes, hey, we planned it in 
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I mean, it was just like 
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and it was like, OK. 
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$3500 in four hours. 
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It was ridiculous. 
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can you know? 
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So then we started to add music.
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there were a couple of 
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And then it went from 3500 to 
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Then it's, you know, it started 
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on. 
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this event. 
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said, having that drive and that
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But people support you such as, 
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yourself or friends such as 
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And you see the excitement in 
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wait till that event next year. 
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excited to go. 
OK, what can we do to make this 

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even bigger and better and set 
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I mean, yeah, we'd love to make 
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But you know what, honestly, as 
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this year and only made $5000, 
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It's to create the atmosphere 
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they are appreciated. 
And, and I think that's what's 

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lacking obviously in this 
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you know, treated like third 
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they come home. 
And I, you know, it's, it's 

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uncalled for. 
So if we can create that kind of

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atmosphere for them and their 
families, I think it it it truly

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goes a long way. 
Absolutely. 

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And I, you know, I'm curious 
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community. 
Sorry, my phone started ringing 

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there, Jacques. 
I've got this new system set up 

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and I don't have anything 
configured and like all of a 

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sudden everything's connected 
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connected. 
So sorry, Jacques, bear with me 

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here. 
I don't. 

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Know you're good, buddy. 
There we go. 

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All right. 
I got you back. 

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I I lost the window. 
I lost everything I couldn't. 

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See your Oh man, that's all. 
You don't need to see me. 

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You know what I look like. 
Technology, I'm supposed to be 

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good with this stuff. 
So, you know, from a community 

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standpoint, it really sounds 
like every year the community's 

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pitching in, whether it's people
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know, slick fins in Fort Edward,
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Edward community that's coming 
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Can you, can you speak a little 
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from geographically, business, 
why, you know, perfect walks of 

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life, all that stuff. 
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I mean, basically it's open, you
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Saratoga County, and it's slowly
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You know, Fort Edward, it was 
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was already there. 
And you know, like when you're 

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planning an event, everyone 
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is getting your date and your 
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So venues are always, you know, 
you know, it's not cheap to do a

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venue for any event. 
You know, you're talking about 

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thousands of dollars, you know, 
to, to just even to rent it and 

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sometimes without food, without.
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you know, and we had the venue 
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like, Hey, we're just gonna open
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So there's the good thing. 
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everything back is there's no 
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OK so the venue is literally 
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The food trucks donate back. 
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they always donate back so they 
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The musicians all donate their 
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free. 
I have a professional sound 

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engineer that comes on and takes
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everything from the stage to the
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The volunteers, the women I have
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back, there's 8 to 10 of those. 
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teams coming to volunteer this 
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They want to be a part of it. 
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on and it's like anything else 
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good out there and people see 
that they want to be a part of 

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something because not everyone 
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but they can be an integral part
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Hey, someone else is starting. 
All I got to do is show up. 

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Hey, I want to, you know, I want
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I want to sponsor, like you 
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basket or I just want to show up
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and in whatever way you want to 
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You know, we invite people from 
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peer-to-peer, which is Jeremy 

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Dewar's. 
They they come out and they're, 

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they're another partner with us,
Feeder Canal Alliance. 

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They start advertising. 
I'm going to be on Channel 10 in

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May on a new thing called 
Soldiers to Service with Ryan 

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Peterson. 
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event, which is going to be huge
exposure for us. 

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And that's in the Albany area, 
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So now people down there see me 
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And I've had people come up that
I went to high school with their

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grades going like, man, we can't
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this. 
I'm like, hey, you know what? 

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That's that was my calling. 
I guess somehow it found me 

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along the way. 
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Yeah. 
It's as far as putting the event

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together. 
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the hardest thing, right? 
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these different groups, all 
these different people, bringing

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them all together, getting them 
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How does that all work? 
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we get done with the event, like
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the night when I was sitting 
hanging out, I started hitting 

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up my musicians that night and 
saying anyone that wants to come

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back, let me know. 
Now. 

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I went right to my sound guy. 
Are you in for next year? 

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Yup. 
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were in, talked to the food 
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It's always about staying ahead 
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So like right now, obviously 
venues done I have to IBS is 

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they donate a couple of porta 
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veterans to help some of that 
capacity. 

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coordinator who I just reach out
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I put them in a group message. 
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sort of like, I mean, you know 
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all the volunteers setting up 
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auction items, doing the raffle 
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ready. 
They do all of that. 

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of all the music. 
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the sound system. 
OK, another problem, Heather and

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Chris, the brewery is 
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It takes care of its own. 
Their staff takes care of the 

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beer and and other things. 
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separate entities. 
So they bring their own staff. 

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All they do is say where do I 
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Here you are. 
They're good. 

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All I have to do is is go up and
network, which is what I want to

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do. 
I just want to be able to sit 

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around and talk to these 
veterans and learn about them 

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and their stories and just just 
enjoy the day. 

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And, and you know, if you, if 
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and you have the right people. 
I mean, without any of these 

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partners, this doesn't work. 
You take Heather and Chris out, 

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you take Alan out, you take the 
sound guy, it doesn't work. 

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It's, it's a team effort. 
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cohesive team that puts this 
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And I couldn't do it without any
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Amazing. 
What, Jock, as far as when 

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you're looking at what to do 
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how do you evaluate who's the 
most needing or where the 

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money's going to go? 
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So we normally reach out. 
We'll, we'll put feelers out a 

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couple months before people that
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A lot of the military 
organizations do know now who we

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are and what we do. 
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Hey, and you know, they'll, 
they'll give us a background. 

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And So what we do is each 
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So that makes it fair across the
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So I'll pick one. 
Chris and Heather pick their 

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own, Ellen picks one. 
We normally try to do 4. 

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I think like we did 4 last year.
I think it was either 4 or $5000

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to each organization. 
We do a check presentation right

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at Slick Fin. 
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it's it's, it's who's in the 
area where I know where the 

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money's going to. 
Like I'll use the vet house, the

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ad running vet house by run by 
Jeff Varmet. 

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He coached all my boys in 
wrestling for 30 years. 

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He's a Marine. 
But I know exactly where that 

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money's going here locally. 
I know what he does at the vet 

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house where somebody like 
Wounded Warrior, we would never 

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donate to. 
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negatively, but when your CEO 
makes 6 figures on a nonprofit 

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organization, that makes me a 
little leery of where that 

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money's going. 
So I wanted to go to, I want to 

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keep it local. 
And that, that's huge. 

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When someone like yourself say 
if you came with your wife or 

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kids and you came or hanging 
out, you want to know your money

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stays in our community. 
It's not going to Iowa or 

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California. 
It's staying right here to take 

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care of our veterans. 
We have to look out, you know, 

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for the people in our 
communities. 

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And I think that's very 
important. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
And little shout out to the 

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Adirondack Vets House too. 
We actually, we, we host their 

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website for free because they're
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try to help those guys out with.
We don't ever hear from them 

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because they don't need much 
from us, but we know we're 

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always there when they do 
appreciate what they do. 

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Obviously great organization 
and, and great cause it's, and 

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I, I love what you said though, 
like as far as being able to 

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make sure that that money is, 
you know where it's going, 

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right? 
Like it's going to have impact. 

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Cause to your point at, I mean, 
I think everybody at this point 

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has read stories about larger 
organizations that do all this 

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fundraising. 
And then a small, small 

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percentage of that money 
actually goes to where you think

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it's going to go to help the 
people you think it's going to 

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help, right? 
So knowing that it is going to 

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go back and actually help real 
people, right and it's not not 

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not paying for a CE OS, you 
know, expensive lifestyle or 

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whatever it is, but. 
I think, yeah, you know, and 

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that's the thing, you know, when
when I asked for those sponsor, 

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you know, especially the local 
businesses, they want to know if

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they're sponsoring, you know, 
veterans here. 

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And, you know, the bigger scheme
of things, you always hope that 

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maybe someone in a different 
town saw what you were doing and

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it it could still happen and go,
hey, we might want to do that in

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our. 
And that's what you hope for. 

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I mean, when you start something
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maybe Bennington, Vt make, you 
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saying, hey, they're doing this 
in in upstate New York. 

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Why don't we do something like 
this for our veterans? 

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You know, my ultimate goal would
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around and set up these events 
and help get them started, I 

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would do that. 
I mean, I would be open to that.

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And I think it would be, it 
would be great because they 

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could do it right in their own 
community. 

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So rather than try to ask the, 
the state or the federal 

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government for money for your 
veterans, do it. 

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Your do it yourself, go out. 
I mean, we raise money for 

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everything right from cancer to 
the South High. 

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I mean, South High dance 700 and
$1000. 

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I mean, it's like, you know what
the veterans could do with 700 

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and something, $1000. 
I. 

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Mean and they do a great job, 
but same thing. 

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Our veterans deserve the same 
type of, you know, support. 

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So I, you know, I think that 
it's very important that to keep

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it local and like I said, not 
expand too much. 

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So we're in Washington, Saratoga
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We try to keep it right in that 
in that scheme of things. 

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And I think it'll continue to 
grow and we'll see where it 

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goes. 
Maybe I have to expand and it 

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may outgrow the brewery. 
I might have to make it at 

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multiple locations, which was a 
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want to spread myself too thin. 
So it's then it's then it's 

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compiling two different events, 
even though it's under the same 

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umbrella. 
You have to have. 

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Oh, yeah, it's a whole new, 
yeah, you got to have a point 

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person here and somebody here. 
So I was like, you know what? 

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So what we're doing is we're 
doing 2 friends of mine, Brianna

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and Lance Bergman, who come to 
every event. 

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They are doing something called.
There's a bowling tournament on 

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April 11th at Broadway Lanes in 
Fort Everett. 

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It's called No Pins Left Behind.
I thought it was a catchy name 

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as like no man left behind. 
But anyway, it's, it's in the 

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afternoon. 
It's a Saturday, I believe it's 

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like 1 to 4. 
It's 4 veterans and their 

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families, but it's open to the 
public. 

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I'll have a DJ. 
We're going to do a 5050. 

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That money will probably donate 
to the Marine Corps League, 

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which I'm now a part of. 
I'm doing some of their 

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fundraising for the US Marine 
Corps League. 

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So we're tying in and it 
continues to grow and more and 

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more people want to be involved 
and we need to grow those ranks 

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in the American Legions, the 
VFWS that have the, that older, 

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that older group, the younger 
guys don't want to get into it 

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as much. 
And I think we need to get 

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something to attract them into 
it and show them the importance 

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of building those ranks because 
there is a lot of help out there

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for the veterans, if they seek 
it, if they, you know, if they 

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choose to, to look for it, there
is a lot of help. 

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And I, I realize that going to 
my first Marine Corps League 

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meeting as a civilian, because 
as I said, my brother-in-law is 

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a Marine, my family's military, 
my wife's family is all 

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military. 
But for what I do in the 

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community, they wanted me to be 
a part of it. 

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And I was honored to be, you 
know, brought into that to that 

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family and be able to witness 
these guys doing what they do. 

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They do Toys for Tots every 
year. 

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They do a lot for the community.
So I think I'm going to make 

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them my beneficiary from give 
back this year and donate back 

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to the the Marine Corps League 
and what they do. 

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That's amazing. 
And you know what, in some of 

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what you're saying, I, you know,
really resonates with us at at 5

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towers. 
You know, we, one of the reasons

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why we started buying local to 
begin with is because we truly, 

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truly, truly believe that if 
everybody focused on their 

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community and making their own 
communities better, if everybody

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did that, if every community did
that, what a world we would live

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in, right? 
And so we obviously love 

446
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,000
anything local. 
We love anything that is 

447
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,360
supporting local businesses, 
local causes, local people, 

448
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,320
anything that uplifts, uplifts 
our local community, you know, 

449
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,000
we're 1000% behind it. 
So I love it, man. 

450
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,120
I think what you're doing is 
great. 

451
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,080
Well, all you guys are doing is 
great at, you know, at Heather 

452
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,840
and Chris over at Slickfinn. 
Great beer, great people, you 

453
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,080
know. 
And I just, I just think it's 

454
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,920
such a great event. 
So we're we're super excited to 

455
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,200
be involved, even the small part
that we're involved in it so. 

456
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,360
No, and I appreciate that. 
I mean, like you said, we've 

457
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:32,280
known each other for a long 
time. 

458
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,160
You Remember Me from starting 
out for us for life. 

459
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,640
And when I just started out, you
know, we've had a lot of 

460
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,320
discussions. 
We used to meet at coffee over 

461
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,400
at crew and had our chats and 
you know, we're very similar. 

462
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,200
Our background, the way we are, 
the type of man, you know, men 

463
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,280
that we are, that you know, the 
type of belief system we have. 

464
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,920
We've always, you know, thought 
about, you know, the same thing.

465
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,120
We have the same vision, I 
think, and a lot of aspects. 

466
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,920
So I appreciate that and and the
website and I had some other 

467
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,160
things. 
I have to get back on there 

468
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,760
'cause I have stuff to add, you 
know, for this year's event, 

469
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,960
just to get it updated. 
Yeah, let's get that site 

470
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,520
updated. 
'Cause I think there's a Jeremy 

471
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,600
that I think he's the one that 
e-mail. 

472
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,320
Is there a Jeremy? 
Jeremy's one of our guys, yeah, 

473
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,040
he's, he does like a lot of our 
SEO and and web. 

474
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,640
He probably might have emailed 
you about a late update or 

475
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,960
something that we did, but yeah,
send it on over man. 

476
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,360
We'll get that stuff updated and
get some fresh pictures on there

477
00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,800
and I'm sure we got a change of 
date on there, right. 

478
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,240
What's what's the date for the 
update? 

479
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,520
So. 
The date is May 16th. 

480
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,400
May 16th. 
Yeah, but we used to we so 

481
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,320
every. 
So here's the the thing that got

482
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,800
me so last every year we've done
it on Mother's Day weekend and 

483
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,560
it's been a banger like every. 
Obviously it's grown. 

484
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,640
And the problem is, is that 
Heather being a mom and her 

485
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,440
birthday is the next day, she 
always gets stuck working it. 

486
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,400
So I talked to her this year and
I said, you know what? 

487
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,120
I said, why don't we give 
everyone a break and we'll do it

488
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,320
in. 
So we're doing it in between 

489
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,080
Mother's Day and Memorial Day. 
So I don't think it's going to 

490
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,680
affect anything. 
I mean, if people are going to 

491
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,480
come out, they're going to come 
out. 

492
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,360
Doesn't matter if you switch the
date, they're coming out for the

493
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,920
cause. 
So as I said, the bowling event 

494
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,720
is like a kickoff. 
It's something that they wanted 

495
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,240
to do for the event. 
So it's a kickoff for operation 

496
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,760
give back. 
It's about a month before and 

497
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,760
I'll have some information 
there. 

498
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,360
I'll have the last couple years 
shirts I'm going to sell though.

499
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,200
Anything that we sell goes right
to the, you know, to the cause, 

500
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,720
but I'll be on hand and talk to 
people about the event, what we 

501
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,640
do. 
There's limited sponsorships 

502
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,400
available. 
Businesses are a contact. 

503
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,440
I mean my phone's blowing up. 
I mean it's just people just 

504
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,400
want to be on the shirt. 
They will like, how can we help?

505
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,480
And so it's amazing to to have 
that kind of support when you're

506
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,200
doing something local and know 
that the community stands and 

507
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,400
believes in what you're doing. 
You know that means a lot. 

508
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,440
So that's what keeps pushing it 
forward, I think. 

509
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,160
Absolutely. 
So May 16th, what's the time 

510
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,440
again? 
Starts at noon and goes all day,

511
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,840
so it's all day event. 
Live music all day. 

512
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,200
Like I said, two or three food 
trucks. 

513
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,200
We'll have the raffle, silent 
auctions, there's no charge to 

514
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,720
get in. 
It's just you walk in the 

515
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,720
brewery, come on. 
And actually the other thing is 

516
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:59,600
so Adirondack peer-to-peer every
year, Jeremy, they, Jeremy 

517
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,880
Dewar's over there, they buy the
1st $1000 in food. 

518
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,880
So what they do is for veterans,
they'll give you vouchers so 

519
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,520
they'll pay it ahead. 
So say if you were to come in, 

520
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,840
you're a veteran, you go up, you
tell them where, which, you 

521
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,440
know, which food truck you want 
it for, they give you. 

522
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,240
So you get a free meal on 
peer-to-peer. 

523
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,480
So I mean, that's, that's a huge
thing. 

524
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,240
The 1st $1000 in food is already
paid for. 

525
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,080
So, you know, you get in the 
door, you get a, you know, you 

526
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,080
get a quick snack, you have a 
great beer from Slick and you 

527
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,920
listen to some great music, take
a shot at a raffle. 

528
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,800
And then, you know, even by the 
end of the night last year, the 

529
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,520
band still had, I, I guarantee 
you there was probably still 100

530
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,200
and 150 people there right up 
till, you know, 93010 O'clock 

531
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,040
still listen to that last band. 
So, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's

532
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,200
crazy. 
It's it's amazing. 

533
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,600
Love it, love it, love it. 
What if people want to get a 

534
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,800
hold of you? 
They want to learn more about 

535
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,760
the event, maybe they want to 
donate, they want to get 

536
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,960
involved. 
How do they find you? 

537
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,960
I'm easy to find, Mike, you know
that I'm easy to find. 

538
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,920
No, you can you can go on the 4S
for life page. 

539
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,640
You can find me social media. 
You know, I'm I'm on Facebook 

540
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440
and Instagram. 
Just message me. 

541
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,800
I'm always posting. 
You know, if you, if you follow 

542
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,760
me, a lot of people that we know
are very similar. 

543
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,000
So they follow it and they see 
it. 

544
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,920
So the event page will be up 
probably within the next week. 

545
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,600
The event page will be all over 
social media. 

546
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,080
And you know, like I said, 
anybody that wants to, you know,

547
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,480
we're going to be looking for 
baskets for the raffles, silent 

548
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,080
auction items. 
Again, 100% of the proceeds go 

549
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,280
right back to local veteran 
organizations. 

550
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,360
That's very important. 
And you know, we just come on 

551
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,400
out and have a good time. 
And, you know, if you haven't 

552
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,760
been to Slick Fin, come on out, 
try a great beer, some great 

553
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,560
food. 
I just be around some great 

554
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,040
people. 
I mean that that's truly what, 

555
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,000
what any event should be about. 
It's the money is the secondary 

556
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,400
aspect. 
I mean, it's always nice, as I 

557
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,800
said, you know, to raise the 
money and help what you can. 

558
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,360
So we'd love, you know, to, to 
make a ton of money. 

559
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,360
But the the importance of the 
day 'cause we always do it like 

560
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,680
a moment of silence about 
halfway through while one of my 

561
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,600
musicians plays the Star 
Spangled Banner and on his 

562
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,040
guitar and we do a moment of 
silence for all those soldiers 

563
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,840
that have made the ultimate 
sacrifice and we honor them as 

564
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,640
well. 
So it, it, it brings everything 

565
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,320
together a lot, a lot of tears. 
Last year I had AI picked out a 

566
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,520
song and probably it was a song.
I'm trying to think it might 

567
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,760
have been, it was Tim McGraw. 
It's anything. 

568
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,240
It's, it's about a soldier 
coming home. 

569
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,280
I can't think of the name of the
song. 

570
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,280
And they bury him up on the end 
of the road where he grew up. 

571
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,000
And I and I had more veterans 
come up and it was, it was 

572
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,960
silent, but I didn't know it 
would have that effect. 

573
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,600
It was a good effect, but it was
just like man, and to see all 

574
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,720
these guys really show their 
true humanity and not have that 

575
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,360
AI have to be tough for 
everybody. 

576
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,960
It was really good to see them 
just just be a a human being and

577
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,360
just and just just be part of 
the day. 

578
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,880
Yeah, love it man and website is
operation give back dot US. 

579
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,840
Yes. 
And then the S4S page is on 

580
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,880
Facebook. 
What is that again? 

581
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,320
For ask for life is on yeah, 
it's on Facebook and the link to

582
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,280
the website is on that page so 
you can find it right on that 

583
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,840
page and I will get you the the 
new date I'll get you as soon as

584
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,800
I get the lineup food, like any 
pertinent information you need 

585
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,280
for the website that you guys 
help create, I'll get that up. 

586
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,560
So if people want to visit that,
that'll be a direct link right 

587
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,560
to the event and they can, you 
know, see the shirts this year 

588
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000
and the the sponsors and and 
everything else so. 

589
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,760
Amazing. 
Love it. 

590
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,840
Jock, thanks for coming on man, 
giving us the update and talking

591
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,800
about the events. 
Always good to see your face. 

592
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,720
Oh, it's always good to see you.
We'll have to catch up on these 

593
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,440
days when we're not doing 
anything. 

594
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,480
I know we'll have to do it. 
We'll have to actually do it 

595
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,840
live instead of overcoming here.
You know. 

596
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,680
Spending my whole life on Zoom 
meetings these days, Jacques, 

597
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,560
It's, you know. 
It's amazing how technologies 

598
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,400
come to Zoom like you used to 
have to do it. 

599
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,400
And you know, I think you're the
same way I am. 

600
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,600
Like I don't mind the zoom 
because it does help because 

601
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,920
we're so busy, but I, you know, 
I do, I would always and I 

602
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,880
always tell people I want to do 
coffee, but I like, I love to 

603
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,880
have that personal touch with a 
conversation, no matter what 

604
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,640
we're talking about, just to 
have that personal interaction. 

605
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,560
I think is very important to 
keep us connected as, you know, 

606
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,640
as, as, as human beings, because
I think we lose it sort we 

607
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,160
don't, but we do. 
And I think it's, it's important

608
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,880
to, to catch up every once in a 
while with people and, and, and 

609
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,560
definitely make that, you know, 
that, you know, try to squeeze 

610
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,720
it in because I know you're 
busy. 

611
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,120
Like I said, thank you for 
squeezing me in. 

612
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,480
And I was, I just happened to to
think about it. 

613
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,480
I was at the Gold Star meeting 
the other night because one of 

614
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,120
my friends, one of my wife's 
friends is in that group. 

615
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:24,360
Tracy punted her so and she 
invited me and I went to talk to

616
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:25,800
them. 
And we were, I was talking at 

617
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,840
the time to Matt and I was like,
Oh yeah, I already talked to 

618
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Mike. 
And then when everything. 

619
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,080
And I was like, OK, yeah, I got 
to get a hold of Mike now. 

620
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,360
And you're like, oh, so, so 
thank you for squeezing me in 

621
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,760
because I was worried. 
All of a sudden I was like, oh, 

622
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,480
what are we going to do now? 
Because you were like, I'm 

623
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,120
booked up in March. 
So I'm like, oh, crap. 

624
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,560
And you're like, no, I'll get 
you into my guard. 

625
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,400
So I appreciate. 
That man, I'll always make time 

626
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,920
for you, my man and, and I any 
time for causes like this and, 

627
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,480
and helping our veterans. 
So happy to do it and happy and 

628
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,440
glad that we got to jump on 
here, man. 

629
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,600
So thanks a lot all. 
Right. 

630
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,560
I appreciate it, Blake. 
And of course, thanks everybody 

631
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,200
for listening. 
You know, you can find this 

632
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,000
episode and other episodes at 
buying local dot US. 

633
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480
You can listen to our podcast, 
Apple, Spotify. 

634
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,600
You can take a look at Jacques 
and my the ugly mugs here on on 

635
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040
the video if you want on YouTube
and rumble. 

636
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,080
And, you know, we appreciate 
everybody listening. 

637
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,920
You know, don't be afraid to 
share the show, send it to a 

638
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,400
friend, like subscribe all those
fun things. 

639
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,920
And again, we appreciate 
everybody for listening and 

640
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,920
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