1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 The superpower that every citizen has is the ability to 2 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:06,120 control where they spend their time, money and attention by 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,160 focusing these on supporting local businesses who are having 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,440 a profound impact on your friends, your family and your 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,640 local community. So if you want to change the 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,400 world. You can start with buying local. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,360 Hello everyone. Mike Nelson here with buying 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,680 local. We're actually doing a simulcast 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,520 for both Glens Falls and Saratoga today. 10 00:00:29,140 --> 00:00:34,140 I am with Scott Peterson from Derazzio Peterson law firm in 11 00:00:34,140 --> 00:00:38,020 Saratoga. And Scott, you guys do a few 12 00:00:38,020 --> 00:00:42,900 different things and you cover a kind of a territory Warren, 13 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:45,580 Washington, Saratoga counties because that's kind of where you 14 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:48,620 live, but it and it kind of goes out from there too. 15 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:51,180 So maybe you know let's just take a minute tell you know tell 16 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:53,340 everyone you know who you are and what you guys do over there. 17 00:00:53,540 --> 00:00:54,780 All right. Well, first thanks for having us 18 00:00:54,780 --> 00:01:00,210 on, having me on. So we are kind of a, I don't 19 00:01:00,210 --> 00:01:03,930 like to use the word boutique, but a small firm that handles 20 00:01:04,450 --> 00:01:07,930 primarily employment discrimination and serious 21 00:01:07,930 --> 00:01:11,210 personal energy cases for kind of a small number of clients. 22 00:01:12,250 --> 00:01:14,930 And we handle those cases like you said, locally in our 23 00:01:14,930 --> 00:01:17,290 neighborhood. We're based in Saratoga Springs, 24 00:01:17,730 --> 00:01:21,210 Saratoga, Washington, Warren Counties, upstate New York and 25 00:01:21,250 --> 00:01:23,970 our practice has kind of taken us. 26 00:01:24,430 --> 00:01:26,590 Throughout the state and actually into Vermont over the 27 00:01:26,590 --> 00:01:32,990 last couple of years, we we try to focus on helping a very small 28 00:01:32,990 --> 00:01:35,710 number of people with pretty serious problems. 29 00:01:36,470 --> 00:01:39,830 And you know, because of that we have intentionally kept kind of 30 00:01:39,830 --> 00:01:43,550 a small practice and we are, you know, we're pretty selective 31 00:01:43,550 --> 00:01:45,710 about the cases and the clients that we take on, but we give a 32 00:01:45,710 --> 00:01:48,430 very personal level of attention to our personalized level of 33 00:01:48,430 --> 00:01:52,390 attention to our clients. So when you say employment 34 00:01:52,390 --> 00:01:54,300 discrimination? Right. 35 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:59,380 What does that mean? I think most of the time we're 36 00:01:59,380 --> 00:02:04,740 telling people what it doesn't mean actually because we feel 37 00:02:04,740 --> 00:02:09,300 the very high volume of calls of people who have had something go 38 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:14,220 wrong in the workplace and they call us New York is a very 39 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:18,830 employer friendly state, so. Many of the things that go on in 40 00:02:18,830 --> 00:02:21,230 the workplace that people, you know, that happen to people 41 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:23,310 aren't illegal. They might not be nice, they 42 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:26,190 might not be appropriate, but that doesn't make them illegal. 43 00:02:26,190 --> 00:02:30,830 So the kinds of cases that we handle are fairly severe 44 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:35,830 instances of things like really serious sexual harassment where 45 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:39,120 someone has. Been going through something for 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,800 typically a long period of time. They've made complaints to 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,160 someone running up the ladder, It continues to go along and 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,520 they're either forced out or they have to quit or they're 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,040 fired. Typically it's someone who's 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,760 working in a fairly high level position. 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,080 The kind of things that people often say to me, this stuff 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,440 doesn't really happen anymore, right? 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,000 And I'm like people are people. I know that's actually what it 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,920 literally what I was thinking I was like, I can't even believe 55 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:04,800 that that still goes on in today's world like. 56 00:03:06,150 --> 00:03:10,470 And the best example, you know, the me too, all the stories that 57 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:13,510 came out of me too, really exposed a lot of what we see 58 00:03:13,510 --> 00:03:15,790 behind the scenes to kind of the the masses. 59 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:18,830 And people were shocked when they saw people like, you know, 60 00:03:18,830 --> 00:03:21,790 in positions of power, Matt Lauer, Harvey Weinstein, those 61 00:03:21,790 --> 00:03:23,670 kinds of people. And they're like, how does this 62 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:25,110 stuff go on? I can't believe it. 63 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:29,110 And it like I said, I think there's a, there's an element of 64 00:03:29,110 --> 00:03:32,470 human nature to it that you know, we've the laws have become 65 00:03:32,470 --> 00:03:35,060 more strict. The education around these 66 00:03:35,060 --> 00:03:38,660 issues has become significantly greater over the years, but to 67 00:03:38,660 --> 00:03:40,980 some degree people still do things against their own 68 00:03:40,980 --> 00:03:44,740 self-interest, you know, knowing that they're wrong and this kind 69 00:03:44,740 --> 00:03:46,380 of stuff still happens and we see it all the time. 70 00:03:47,420 --> 00:03:49,740 So that's, you know, that's one example of the kinds of 71 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:53,540 employment discrimination or sexual harassment cases. 72 00:03:54,020 --> 00:03:57,380 We also do a lot of work with people who have disabilities. 73 00:03:58,470 --> 00:04:01,590 They find themselves asking for or needing leave for one reason 74 00:04:01,590 --> 00:04:04,510 or another. They come back, their job is 75 00:04:04,510 --> 00:04:07,070 gone, or they're fired or something along those lines in 76 00:04:07,070 --> 00:04:11,030 retaliation. These days, I'd say the primary 77 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:14,750 kind of cases that we work on are related to disabilities, 78 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:18,310 medical conditions, medical leave, and then you get the 79 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:22,190 sexual harassment and then we do a fair bit of work for people 80 00:04:22,190 --> 00:04:25,150 who go out on military leave, come back and find themselves 81 00:04:25,550 --> 00:04:31,470 frozen or without a job, so. Much of it is not the kind of 82 00:04:31,470 --> 00:04:33,390 splashy headline stuff that you see on television. 83 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:36,550 Some of the sexual harassment stuff does really make your 84 00:04:36,550 --> 00:04:38,990 eyes, you know, makes your head want to explode the fact that it 85 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:40,630 goes on. But some of it's much more 86 00:04:40,630 --> 00:04:44,390 subtle and it's it's, you know, helping people who have worked 87 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:46,430 hard. Most of them are pretty highly 88 00:04:46,430 --> 00:04:49,190 educated. And most people who call us who 89 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:51,190 we ultimately take out as clients, or many of them are, 90 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:52,950 they've never worked with a lawyer before. 91 00:04:52,990 --> 00:04:54,590 They've never had. They they never thought they'd 92 00:04:54,590 --> 00:04:57,710 be in this kind of a situation. So that's kind of our. 93 00:04:58,670 --> 00:05:00,310 That's our employment side of the practice. 94 00:05:00,990 --> 00:05:04,790 And so there's the employment side and then there's the 95 00:05:05,030 --> 00:05:07,350 personal injury side. So tell us a little bit about 96 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:10,430 that, because I think everybody knows or thinks they know, but 97 00:05:10,430 --> 00:05:12,670 they don't actually know. So tell us about the personal 98 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:14,030 injury. Stuff. 99 00:05:14,030 --> 00:05:18,150 So I kind of equate what we do on the personal injury space 100 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:20,230 too. If you think about, you want to 101 00:05:20,230 --> 00:05:21,390 go out to eat at a restaurant, right? 102 00:05:21,390 --> 00:05:25,390 A couple weekends ago, on Friday night, I went with my kids and 103 00:05:25,390 --> 00:05:27,940 went to Chipotle. And Saturday night my wife and I 104 00:05:27,940 --> 00:05:30,060 went to I was just telling you the pharmacy up in West Falls, 105 00:05:32,140 --> 00:05:35,060 we they were both meals we ate at both of them but they were 106 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:36,340 very different experiences, right. 107 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:40,300 And so when we when we kind of set out to open our firm, we 108 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:42,540 thought about what kind of experience do we want to give 109 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:48,220 the clients who work with us and you know it's the Chipotle 110 00:05:48,220 --> 00:05:51,820 experience exists is out there. I don't fault you know any 111 00:05:51,980 --> 00:05:54,060 anybody for doing what they do but there are there are firms 112 00:05:54,060 --> 00:05:56,630 that handle. Lots of volume, lots of clients, 113 00:05:56,630 --> 00:05:57,910 lots of people come through the doors. 114 00:05:57,910 --> 00:06:00,670 You might see them all, you know, on television or all over 115 00:06:00,670 --> 00:06:03,070 the place. We decided we wanted to be more 116 00:06:03,070 --> 00:06:05,710 of an experience. Like when I went to pharmacy, I 117 00:06:05,710 --> 00:06:09,190 sat at the chef's counter, I talked to the chef. 118 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:12,150 There were six or eight people there and I got a very 119 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:13,750 personalized level of experience. 120 00:06:13,750 --> 00:06:16,310 And so when we decided that this is the kind of practice we were 121 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:19,950 going to do, you know, 12 years ago, we decided that we wanted 122 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:21,710 to give that personalized level of experience. 123 00:06:21,710 --> 00:06:24,900 So the clients who come to us. You know, whether it's they've 124 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:27,940 been in a car accident or they've had a, you know, a 125 00:06:27,940 --> 00:06:31,900 misdiagnosis or a really bad error in a facility or a 126 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:35,700 healthcare facility or a nursing home, they typically are the 127 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:38,660 kind of people who will do a lot of research, who will talk to 128 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:41,860 friends and you know, people that they trust in their lives 129 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:45,420 and they're not going to kind of call the first person that they 130 00:06:45,420 --> 00:06:48,580 see that they're, they're typically hesitant to think 131 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:51,290 about. Making a claim for something 132 00:06:51,330 --> 00:06:54,770 wrong that happened to them. And so we always, I kind of 133 00:06:54,770 --> 00:06:56,210 always explain people in the process. 134 00:06:56,210 --> 00:07:00,490 You know most people who get hurt, they they may initially 135 00:07:00,490 --> 00:07:02,330 think about is there anything I can do about it. 136 00:07:02,330 --> 00:07:04,610 Then they kind of work on their treatment and then they think 137 00:07:04,610 --> 00:07:07,250 about is this the kind of thing I want to do right. 138 00:07:07,450 --> 00:07:10,730 And so the conversations that we have often revolve around, well, 139 00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:13,130 there are many ways to approach something like this. 140 00:07:13,730 --> 00:07:17,930 There's many ways to try to help yourself and your family without 141 00:07:17,930 --> 00:07:20,350 you know. Getting yourself in the paper 142 00:07:20,350 --> 00:07:23,390 and making flashy headlines. And so a lot of people come to 143 00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:25,430 us, they they want to do things discreetly, they want to do 144 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:27,790 things professionally. Many of them are professionals 145 00:07:27,790 --> 00:07:31,670 themselves. And so they, you know, they want 146 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:35,470 that sort of highly personalized level of kind of care and 147 00:07:35,470 --> 00:07:37,430 attention. And so that's kind of what we 148 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:39,590 give them. That's a great analogy, by the 149 00:07:39,590 --> 00:07:43,030 way, with pharmacy and Chipotle. They're both good. 150 00:07:43,070 --> 00:07:44,750 They're both great. Yeah, absolutely. 151 00:07:44,750 --> 00:07:47,310 But yeah, that's a completely different product, completely 152 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:51,230 different level service. Shout out to those guys at the 153 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:52,510 pharmacy. They do a great job. 154 00:07:52,510 --> 00:07:53,830 The food's amazing. Amazing. 155 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:55,070 The whole experience is fantastic. 156 00:07:55,110 --> 00:07:56,430 Yeah. And we're in Saratoga and 157 00:07:56,430 --> 00:07:58,070 there's lots of great restaurants, but that's up there 158 00:07:58,070 --> 00:07:59,830 with, you know, any of the best ones up there. 159 00:07:59,830 --> 00:08:04,430 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Paul Smith, Renovo Real Estate 160 00:08:04,830 --> 00:08:07,430 With over 3 decades of experience in construction, Paul 161 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:09,750 brings a unique perspective to the real estate industry. 162 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:12,390 His construction background helps his clients throughout the 163 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:15,750 buying and selling process. Buyers are able to leverage his 164 00:08:15,750 --> 00:08:18,950 knowledge to identify potential issues that could be costly down 165 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:22,070 the road or even get a better price on their new home. 166 00:08:22,470 --> 00:08:25,510 If you are buying or selling real estate, think of Paul Smith 167 00:08:25,590 --> 00:08:29,150 with Renovo Real Estate. On the on the personal injury 168 00:08:29,150 --> 00:08:31,110 side, I mean what I really hear you saying is that someone's 169 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:33,230 gone well and really on both sides of your business, right, 170 00:08:33,230 --> 00:08:36,710 someone's gone through something that potentially is horrific, 171 00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:38,750 right, whether it's a sexual harassment. 172 00:08:39,450 --> 00:08:43,169 You know discriminatory thing at work, you know or if it's a slip 173 00:08:43,169 --> 00:08:47,010 and fall or some some sort of accident or whatever it is And 174 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:49,690 then you guys are really there to kind of help them through the 175 00:08:49,690 --> 00:08:53,490 process to make sure that they. And I'm trying to remember how 176 00:08:53,490 --> 00:08:57,730 you the last time we spoke you phrased it in a specific way 177 00:08:57,730 --> 00:08:59,730 that really made me. I had never thought about it 178 00:08:59,730 --> 00:09:02,210 that way and now I'm trying to remember what how you phrased it 179 00:09:02,210 --> 00:09:06,570 but something along the lines of. 180 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:10,390 I'm kind of trying to blink on this. 181 00:09:11,630 --> 00:09:17,110 Well, so we kind of have a philosophy of and it's on our 182 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:19,430 website of educate and power and guide. 183 00:09:19,830 --> 00:09:24,190 And our whole approach to the process is we want people who 184 00:09:24,190 --> 00:09:29,590 are going through these situations to understand what 185 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:32,790 this world looks like because it's so far into them and it's. 186 00:09:33,290 --> 00:09:36,450 It's extremely confusing and it's extremely intimidating. 187 00:09:36,570 --> 00:09:40,770 And so our sort of mindset and approach is we want you to be as 188 00:09:41,170 --> 00:09:45,090 educated and as comfortable as you need to be to understand how 189 00:09:45,090 --> 00:09:50,090 this works and what you want to achieve and how to get there as 190 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:52,790 opposed to. Somebody walking in my office 191 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:55,310 and me banging on the table and flipping the table over and 192 00:09:55,310 --> 00:09:57,390 saying I'm calling the Times Union and I'm calling this and 193 00:09:57,390 --> 00:09:59,590 we're doing that. And maybe that's not exactly 194 00:09:59,590 --> 00:10:03,870 like in their best interest. Not everybody wants that, nor do 195 00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:05,510 they even know that that's something that's available. 196 00:10:05,950 --> 00:10:08,830 Yeah. And I mean, I'd imagine that 197 00:10:08,830 --> 00:10:12,190 some of these people are a bit reticent to. 198 00:10:13,330 --> 00:10:14,810 Would go through this process, right? 199 00:10:14,810 --> 00:10:16,570 I can't imagine it's an easy process. 200 00:10:16,570 --> 00:10:19,330 And I think, I mean, I think if I was about to go through this 201 00:10:19,330 --> 00:10:21,490 process, I'd like, you know, I don't want people to think I'm 202 00:10:21,490 --> 00:10:24,930 trying to get something for nothing or I'm trying to work 203 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:27,090 the system or any of that stuff, right. 204 00:10:27,090 --> 00:10:29,370 And so like what do you tell those people in those 205 00:10:29,370 --> 00:10:31,770 situations? That's a great question. 206 00:10:32,930 --> 00:10:36,570 We're sort of harmed by the headlines around like, you know, 207 00:10:36,850 --> 00:10:39,810 the hot coffee case or you know, cases that. 208 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:43,580 You know, or a complete joke. And I'm not saying the hot 209 00:10:43,580 --> 00:10:45,860 coffee one was that was actually, you know, in in our 210 00:10:45,860 --> 00:10:47,380 community. That's actually something that 211 00:10:48,060 --> 00:10:50,500 it was so hot that McDonald's I think, changed the standards 212 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:52,380 afterwards. I mean, I've burned myself on 213 00:10:52,420 --> 00:10:56,060 hot coffee. Before but but you know so when 214 00:10:56,060 --> 00:10:59,180 we when we talk to them about it we we we try to explain it to 215 00:10:59,180 --> 00:11:05,540 them in a way that you know your your what happened to you is is 216 00:11:05,540 --> 00:11:09,990 very personal to you it. It has nothing to do with what 217 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:13,630 you see everywhere else. Nor does it have to be something 218 00:11:13,630 --> 00:11:16,870 that kind of going back to what I said before, that makes the 219 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:20,750 front page of, you know, the news for being, you know, 220 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:23,150 something that offends people or gets them upset. 221 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:26,990 The long and the short of it is that, you know, let's use an 222 00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:30,870 example of a man or a woman who's in their 40s, has kids and 223 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:33,750 is a professional and they, you know, they, maybe they go into 224 00:11:33,750 --> 00:11:35,860 the hospital and they. They prescribed the wrong 225 00:11:35,860 --> 00:11:38,340 medication or they have surgery in the wrong body. 226 00:11:38,340 --> 00:11:41,420 You know, something that we see that, you know, gets kind of 227 00:11:41,420 --> 00:11:44,900 swept under the rug typically. And now they can't work right. 228 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:48,660 And now they're, you know, their their family's losing out and 229 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:50,820 they, they can't pay their medical bills and their kids, 230 00:11:50,820 --> 00:11:52,460 college tuition and money is gone. 231 00:11:52,460 --> 00:11:55,860 And so for them, it quickly becomes less about. 232 00:11:56,860 --> 00:12:00,380 Worrying about what? What that you know that that 233 00:12:00,380 --> 00:12:02,380 perception is more about how am I going to get through this. 234 00:12:03,180 --> 00:12:06,540 And so our our kind of job and goal is to to try to show them 235 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:11,500 that, look, this is about one of the most serious things that can 236 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:12,940 happen to your family and your life. 237 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:18,580 And there is, there's a way through this without you having 238 00:12:18,580 --> 00:12:20,340 to worry about what other people are thinking. 239 00:12:21,020 --> 00:12:25,140 And you know it's it's sort of the situation where you know 240 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:26,420 most of the people who call us say. 241 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,240 I'm not the kind of person who sues. 242 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,240 That's like the first thing that. 243 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Right. And I always say, you know, 244 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,840 everybody says that until they find themselves in that 245 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,880 position. It's very easy to sort of take 246 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,480 shots at the guys in the billboards and, you know, the 247 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,760 people with the silly commercials. 248 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,880 I get it, you know, And but until something like that 249 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,320 happens to you, you know, and when it does, it becomes a lot 250 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,720 more serious and a lot more more personal. 251 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,840 And so that's the conversation that we have. 252 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,740 It's. Sort of explaining to them that 253 00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:57,180 it's OK to be doing this right and it's it's OK to be thinking 254 00:12:57,180 --> 00:12:59,740 about this. And you thinking about this does 255 00:12:59,740 --> 00:13:04,180 not make you someone who belongs on a, you know, a cheesy ad or, 256 00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:07,100 you know, a funny, a funny video or, you know, getting talked 257 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:09,020 about on the news. That's a very different 258 00:13:09,020 --> 00:13:10,460 scenario. So that's the kind of 259 00:13:10,460 --> 00:13:14,060 conversations we like to have. Yeah, it's it's interesting to 260 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:18,500 you know because in some situations where there is 261 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:23,230 neglect or. I don't want to say malice, but 262 00:13:23,230 --> 00:13:25,990 there there was something that happened because someone wasn't 263 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:28,430 doing what they're, you know, like I think of the, you operate 264 00:13:28,430 --> 00:13:30,670 on the wrong body part or whatever, you know, So there's 265 00:13:30,670 --> 00:13:35,670 obviously a problem there and that person suing the 266 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:38,590 organization that did that, they're potentially preventing 267 00:13:38,590 --> 00:13:41,310 that from ever happening again. And I like, I don't think that's 268 00:13:41,310 --> 00:13:43,670 something and I only think that way because of one of our 269 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:45,750 previous conversations. I wouldn't have thought that 270 00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:47,910 way. Otherwise I'd be in the mode of. 271 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:51,290 You know, we just, we live in such a litigious society and you 272 00:13:51,290 --> 00:13:53,130 know, everybody wants to sue for everything. 273 00:13:53,130 --> 00:13:57,210 And a lot of lawsuits are, you know, in my humble opinion and 274 00:13:57,210 --> 00:13:59,610 I'm not a lawyer. You know what? 275 00:13:59,610 --> 00:14:02,170 There's a lot of them are just silly, you know, a lot of things 276 00:14:02,170 --> 00:14:04,690 that are going on and legally are silly. 277 00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:06,730 And it's like, you know, I wouldn't want to be a part of 278 00:14:06,730 --> 00:14:09,570 that system At the same time if something horrific like that 279 00:14:09,570 --> 00:14:13,290 happened and had a huge negative impact on my life and my kids 280 00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:15,260 life. And potentially it could happen 281 00:14:15,260 --> 00:14:16,860 to other people. Unless I step forward, I 282 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:20,460 definitely, I mean it's needs to be done. 283 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:23,180 Well, so yeah. And I've sort of two responses 284 00:14:23,180 --> 00:14:23,780 to that. Yeah. 285 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:28,820 The 1st is that what the public doesn't necessarily see and know 286 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:31,690 is that. The standard is actually it's 287 00:14:31,690 --> 00:14:34,770 fairly difficult to succeed in a lot of these lawsuits. 288 00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:37,210 Yeah, in particular involving the medical profession. 289 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:40,650 But just in general, you know the the, the standards are high. 290 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:44,050 Judges dismiss cases all the time and just because you read 291 00:14:44,050 --> 00:14:46,090 something in the headlines doesn't necessarily mean that 292 00:14:46,090 --> 00:14:49,010 it's accurate, right. So I always, I'm always talking 293 00:14:49,690 --> 00:14:52,090 in on our podcast in our blogs and about. 294 00:14:53,130 --> 00:14:55,850 What you see on television, what you see in the news, is probably 295 00:14:55,850 --> 00:14:57,770 not accurate relative to what actually happens. 296 00:14:57,770 --> 00:15:00,250 You might see, oh, there was a $50 million jury verdict. 297 00:15:00,250 --> 00:15:02,970 What it doesn't tell you is, well, there's actually only, you 298 00:15:02,970 --> 00:15:06,290 know, $1,000,000 of insurance coverage and that claim settled 299 00:15:06,290 --> 00:15:09,650 for 1,000,000, not 50. Or it got reversed on appeal or 300 00:15:09,650 --> 00:15:11,810 it got reduced like that stuff you don't see. 301 00:15:11,810 --> 00:15:14,730 So the first part of it is it's actually pretty difficult to 302 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:17,130 succeed. And our standards are, you know, 303 00:15:17,130 --> 00:15:19,130 pretty high. When we select cases, we want to 304 00:15:19,130 --> 00:15:21,250 make sure that. It's there was something really 305 00:15:21,250 --> 00:15:24,570 bad did happen could actually prove it And the 2nd to your 306 00:15:24,570 --> 00:15:27,930 point is, and I I didn't see this as much or I didn't 307 00:15:27,930 --> 00:15:30,930 appreciate this as much until I got really into this world but 308 00:15:31,490 --> 00:15:36,250 it actually does affect change and you know it's for better or 309 00:15:36,250 --> 00:15:38,810 worse in the capitalist world or society. 310 00:15:39,090 --> 00:15:42,810 You know monies or companies and businesses they need to make 311 00:15:42,810 --> 00:15:45,770 money right and they will do things that will typically help 312 00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:51,610 them generate profits and. I think the system that is 313 00:15:51,650 --> 00:15:56,810 designed in our world of the litigation system does allow you 314 00:15:56,810 --> 00:16:00,010 to force change where it might not otherwise occur, and it's 315 00:16:00,050 --> 00:16:01,530 through somebody's wallet, right? 316 00:16:02,370 --> 00:16:05,610 I've had multiple cases over the over the years where pretty 317 00:16:05,610 --> 00:16:08,650 egregious things have happened, whether they were really bad 318 00:16:08,650 --> 00:16:13,890 sexual harassment or egregious errors in hospitals or 319 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:16,730 healthcare facilities where I know. 320 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:20,470 That after the case policies changed, right. 321 00:16:21,470 --> 00:16:23,310 People were fired. People who should have been gone 322 00:16:23,310 --> 00:16:26,230 a long time ago in cases of sexual harassment or you know, 323 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:29,950 we've had cases where there were no constraints around the 324 00:16:29,950 --> 00:16:31,550 behavior of people in the workplace. 325 00:16:31,710 --> 00:16:34,550 People were just, you know, women were just trying to go to 326 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:36,950 work and do their job. And because there were no 327 00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:39,470 constraints, these these environments were were created 328 00:16:39,470 --> 00:16:42,510 that were absolutely ridiculous if you had a daughter or a wife. 329 00:16:43,250 --> 00:16:44,210 You would. You would never. 330 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:45,170 Would not. Want them there? 331 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:48,090 Yeah. And and we know that when we 332 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,610 filed lawsuits and took depositions and asked really 333 00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:53,330 uncomfortable questions after that those those things were 334 00:16:53,330 --> 00:16:54,650 gone. And I'm not saying they were 335 00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:55,970 eliminated, but they were better. 336 00:16:56,970 --> 00:16:59,970 And you know in the in the setting of the healthcare 337 00:16:59,970 --> 00:17:02,810 system, you know we've had cases where there was a really 338 00:17:03,370 --> 00:17:06,450 egregious misdiagnosis and someone you know maybe went on 339 00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:11,170 to to to have a form of cancer that progressed really bad or or 340 00:17:11,170 --> 00:17:12,210 something along those lines that. 341 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,400 We filed lawsuits and took those depositions. 342 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,240 And you can guarantee that that provider or that person didn't 343 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,200 make that mistake again, right? And so the system is designed 344 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,079 this way. It's a positive outcome at 345 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:28,040 least. It is. 346 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,680 And from a negative circumstance it. 347 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Is it's the best you can do cuz you can't get someone. 348 00:17:32,580 --> 00:17:35,620 You know, you can't even ring the bell and so a bit of it's 349 00:17:35,620 --> 00:17:38,060 you know Monday morning quarterbacking, but that's the 350 00:17:38,060 --> 00:17:41,100 way the system's designed. You know there are, This is why 351 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:43,020 people and companies have insurance. 352 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:47,580 And so you know we're the system is hopefully set up in a way 353 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:50,340 that it does help kind of move the ball forward and kind of 354 00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:53,020 lead us towards some measure of progress as possible. 355 00:17:53,260 --> 00:17:55,660 That's at least the idealistic way that we try to look at it. 356 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:59,850 Yeah, it's. It's fine too, because I 357 00:17:59,850 --> 00:18:01,890 remember from our discussion well, we, you know, what we 358 00:18:01,890 --> 00:18:03,610 should talk about right now is your podcast. 359 00:18:05,370 --> 00:18:09,050 Right, Yeah. So, so you and what? 360 00:18:09,050 --> 00:18:12,210 We haven't even talked about the fact that your wife is your 361 00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:15,890 partner in your law firm, and you and I'm sorry, I can't 362 00:18:15,890 --> 00:18:17,290 remember your wife's name. Giovanna. 363 00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:22,290 Giovanna, you 2 have a podcast we do called Talk Lex. 364 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:25,450 Which Lex is the Latin for law. Is that correct? 365 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:26,650 Yeah, that's correct. Brilliant. 366 00:18:27,060 --> 00:18:28,740 So tell us about the podcast. Yeah. 367 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:33,860 So that was my wife always jokes that podcasting was like perfect 368 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:35,260 for my personality like the talk. 369 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:41,780 And so Giovanna handles she handles most of our much of our 370 00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:45,740 employment discrimination practice and and so we had this 371 00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:49,860 idea to try to make a podcast that would bring some common 372 00:18:49,860 --> 00:18:54,220 sense discussion to legal issues in the news and you know legal 373 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:56,460 issues that people kind of face every day that that. 374 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,000 You know, like I said, it's a very confusing world. 375 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,560 And if you, you know, when you see how the how legislature 376 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,640 works and how the government works, they're the ones writing 377 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,920 the laws. So you kind of understand why 378 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:08,840 much of this is. Yeah. 379 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,280 But also, you know, the, the reporting on a lot of it is not 380 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,440 always accurate, right. The stories you read, like I 381 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,690 said, aren't always. An accurate depiction of what's 382 00:19:19,690 --> 00:19:22,810 happening and we thought maybe people would be interested in 383 00:19:22,810 --> 00:19:25,730 hearing about that and hearing you know what actually is going 384 00:19:25,730 --> 00:19:27,690 on here. And you know when you read this, 385 00:19:27,690 --> 00:19:31,930 what does that actually mean? And so we try to talk about kind 386 00:19:31,930 --> 00:19:34,970 of legal issues in the news, kind of break them down for in a 387 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:38,690 common sense way and also bring on some guests in other areas of 388 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:40,650 law. So we have had adoption 389 00:19:40,650 --> 00:19:42,690 attorneys and matrimonial attorneys and. 390 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:45,650 The state planning attorneys and people who can kind of break 391 00:19:45,650 --> 00:19:49,130 down for for the average person, what does this actually, what's 392 00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:53,530 this world actually look like? You know, hopefully people won't 393 00:19:53,610 --> 00:19:56,690 necessarily have to get involved in these kinds of things, but 394 00:19:57,210 --> 00:19:59,410 the reality is that most people eventually need a lawyer for one 395 00:19:59,410 --> 00:20:01,610 of those things. It's a good idea to kind of have 396 00:20:01,610 --> 00:20:03,570 an idea of how the system works, I think. 397 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:07,050 I think transparency and education is is really critical 398 00:20:07,050 --> 00:20:10,820 and important and I think. The more people know, the 399 00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:11,620 better. I don't think it's. 400 00:20:11,620 --> 00:20:14,620 I don't think it's benefits us as lawyers to hide what we do or 401 00:20:14,620 --> 00:20:18,300 to make it seem like it's this, you know, facade of of, you 402 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:20,460 know, secrecy. I think, you know, explain to 403 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:22,340 people, tell him how it works. Tell him what the system looks 404 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:25,180 like. A very complicated system. 405 00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:30,940 It's so complicated. Well, our legal system in 406 00:20:30,940 --> 00:20:33,500 general is just so complicated. It's crazy. 407 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,980 Bob Fitch, your local state. Farm Insurance agent with a 408 00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:38,300 mission of helping people manage. 409 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:41,540 The risks of everyday life. Recover from the unexpected and 410 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:43,260 realize their dreams. Whatever. 411 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:45,940 Your needs may be. State Farm has got you covered 412 00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:49,300 and Bob. Fitch is your man now. 413 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:51,060 You guys had. I'm trying to think of the 414 00:20:51,260 --> 00:20:55,620 episodes. Did you do the Johnny Depp 415 00:20:55,620 --> 00:20:56,540 trial? We did, yeah. 416 00:20:56,820 --> 00:20:58,460 That was our that's our most listened to episode. 417 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:01,020 Is it really? Yeah, I mean it's interesting 418 00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:03,380 stuff. I mean that how much viewership 419 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:05,540 that that that case in general got. 420 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:09,910 It is, you know, it's it's funny what the public latches on to, 421 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:11,870 right? I say this as someone who's 422 00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:13,870 named Scott Peterson, who's been getting. 423 00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:17,510 Listen, I forgot all about that. And. 424 00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:20,470 Then one of the guys brought it up before the show. 425 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:21,990 I'm like, oh, I didn't even think about that. 426 00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:25,630 I mean, I'm not kidding you. At least three times a week 427 00:21:25,630 --> 00:21:26,670 somebody makes a comment about that. 428 00:21:26,670 --> 00:21:27,430 Really. Yeah. 429 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:29,310 And it's I. It started when I was in law 430 00:21:29,310 --> 00:21:33,630 school the the the case happened when I was so and that's almost 431 00:21:33,630 --> 00:21:37,890 20 years ago and. When I started dating Jovanna, I 432 00:21:37,890 --> 00:21:40,650 was, I had just graduated law school and and she's got two 433 00:21:40,650 --> 00:21:43,770 brothers who, you know, we're all the kind of guys who like to 434 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:45,370 get on each other. Bus. 435 00:21:45,370 --> 00:21:48,090 Chops they've they've been busting me on the name ever 436 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:50,850 since and very early on she's like, you know, you got one 437 00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:55,130 chance to change your name and I didn't do it and I should have. 438 00:21:55,890 --> 00:21:58,570 So, man, that's funny that yeah, they must have had a lot of fun 439 00:21:58,570 --> 00:22:00,770 with you, you know, and their sister as well. 440 00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:03,570 Are you sure you want to date a guy named Scott Peterson? 441 00:22:04,610 --> 00:22:08,170 But back to the the. Johnny Depp thing, it's people 442 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:11,490 you know, they love celebrity as you guys know your media and 443 00:22:11,690 --> 00:22:16,530 when when there's a splashy, you know trial it, it airs all The 444 00:22:16,530 --> 00:22:19,370 Dirty laundry. And and in fact that actually 445 00:22:19,370 --> 00:22:21,970 goes to kind of one of your questions before is when someone 446 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:25,250 comes to us with, you know let's say they've gotten they're a 447 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:27,530 local professional who's gotten in a really bad accident. 448 00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:30,890 You know they may come to me and say the last thing I want is 449 00:22:30,890 --> 00:22:33,920 this, I don't want to be. You know, in a courtroom 450 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,240 testifying, you know, having somebody covering this trial. 451 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,200 And so that's always part of the consideration of, you know, what 452 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,080 the path forward is. It's is based upon those kinds 453 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,760 of things. Now most local cases aren't 454 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,760 getting that kind of coverage, but they, you know, some local 455 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,280 cases do for one reason or another grab a headline and 456 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,840 that's So that's something we're always thinking about too. 457 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,720 Did did Amber end up getting any, anything turned over? 458 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,200 Did did he still? Because I remember she was 459 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,900 trying to appeal and. Yeah, I'm not. 460 00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:06,420 I'm not quite sure where that is currently. 461 00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:08,380 I can't even remember. I thought there might have been 462 00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:10,540 a settlement of the whole thing. I'll tell you, I've never 463 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:14,460 laughed so hard watching trial footage as when Johnny Depp was 464 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:16,380 on the stand. Unfortunately, It was really 465 00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:17,260 funny. I know. 466 00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:21,620 I hope the trials that you go to and sit through are equally 467 00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:24,730 funny. So they're not you know, it's 468 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:27,570 it's it's it's really interesting because the topics 469 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:28,570 are serious. Right. 470 00:23:28,810 --> 00:23:33,170 And you're dealing with lives and and you know often very, you 471 00:23:33,210 --> 00:23:34,770 know significant amount of damages. 472 00:23:35,250 --> 00:23:39,050 But at the same time you know you're you're, I love trying 473 00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:41,010 cases. You're you're talking to a jury 474 00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:43,730 and you're you're trying to explain this whole system to 475 00:23:43,730 --> 00:23:46,610 them in a window of, you know, a couple of days, right. 476 00:23:47,530 --> 00:23:49,930 And you need to connect to them and you're trying to build that 477 00:23:49,930 --> 00:23:52,010 rapport And so there's you know, I'm a. 478 00:23:52,530 --> 00:23:56,130 I like to kind of tell jokes off the cuff and and you know 479 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:57,770 connect people. So there's there's definitely 480 00:23:57,770 --> 00:24:01,290 that balance. I will say I've had some trials 481 00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:05,690 where I've had some fun with some witnesses and it's never 482 00:24:05,690 --> 00:24:07,930 risen to the Johnny Depp level, but it's been, you know, I 483 00:24:07,930 --> 00:24:10,250 walked out and and really, really been happy about it. 484 00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:12,530 That's good, that's good. I also like to have fun and 485 00:24:12,530 --> 00:24:14,570 crack jokes and but unfortunately doesn't always go 486 00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:16,410 the direction I want it to go in, so. 487 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,440 All you got to do is listen to my podcast, you know what I 488 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,120 mean? It happens at least once an 489 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:24,960 episode, I think where I'm just like, Yep, yeah, that was that 490 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,040 was ill placed. Well, I have a podcast with my 491 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,670 wife, so you can imagine when I. When I say something stupid. 492 00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:33,070 She lets you know. She'll let me know. 493 00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:34,670 Yeah. Does she wait till you hit the 494 00:24:34,670 --> 00:24:39,990 stop button or do you know does? Usually they'll be a the handle. 495 00:24:40,270 --> 00:24:42,790 She'll kind of raise a hand and say you can't say that. 496 00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:46,710 So, well, we'll just keep recording and then I'll. 497 00:24:46,830 --> 00:24:50,390 Edit it out later. Yeah, it's funny to you say like 498 00:24:50,430 --> 00:24:54,110 we almost once an episode because we have Mac, our podcast 499 00:24:54,110 --> 00:24:56,230 producer. He's in the other room and. 500 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,360 I I'll talk to Mac on these podcasts where and I'll be like 501 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920 Mac, if you could just do me a favor and go back and cut that 502 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,760 out of there. That sounded really not okay or 503 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,640 silly or still whatever it was, you know, it was a bomb joke or 504 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600 whatever. But yesterday we had a podcast 505 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,600 and I put my foot in my mouth and had to have Mac remove that 506 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,400 section. Well, nobody will ever hear it. 507 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,000 So yeah, you know, I mean, hope not anyway. 508 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,600 No, it wasn't that bad. But so. 509 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Workplace discrimination, personal injury, and anything 510 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,520 else that you guys really get into. 511 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,000 No, that's kind of it. You know we do some work for 512 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:43,760 some small local businesses. We have sort of a loose policy 513 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,920 of you know we don't, we don't typically go after small local 514 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,680 businesses in our cases which is why we're our practice kind of 515 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,080 takes us all over the state we. You know we picked specific 516 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,120 cases and you know we we will go, we will pursue them but we 517 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,000 so we do some work for some small local businesses and you 518 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,640 know litigation kind of context. But when we when we opened our 519 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,840 practice we decided that we were going to do only a couple of 520 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,520 things and try to do them well and try to really limit our our 521 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,080 base right. We both worked for big firms and 522 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,400 kind of thought about what we wanted our our practice to look 523 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,280 like and it was not a. You know, anything that comes in 524 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320 the door we're going to do, it's let's let's work with people, we 525 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,000 like, people we can help and let's work with a small enough 526 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760 number that you know, anyone can call us at any time and we can 527 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,160 tell them exactly what's happening and have a 528 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,680 conversation with them with our clients. 529 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,640 So we've we've intentionally not grown into other areas. 530 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,840 You know, the options have been there, but you know we've we've 531 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,600 consciously decided to keep it small and you know. 532 00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:48,300 A bit of a like a family kind of feeling to it so and it works. 533 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:49,660 Interesting, so. Yeah. 534 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:57,660 So OK, I'm good. And you've been doing this 20 535 00:26:57,660 --> 00:27:01,660 years, you said? Yeah, 19 years. 536 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:04,220 Do we feel weird to say that? 19 years, Yeah. 537 00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:09,220 I do feel weird to say that. Something happened the other day 538 00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:13,260 and I was reminded of, you know, how long it's been and. 539 00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:17,340 It's just, yeah, if time flies, you know, Yeah, with kids in the 540 00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:19,580 mix and, you know, busy life and busy practice. 541 00:27:19,940 --> 00:27:21,780 And the next, you know, 20 years has gone by. 542 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:28,220 It's insane. So if people want to find you, 543 00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:30,340 they want to get a hold of you out of that. 544 00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:31,940 Where do they go? What are they where you're on 545 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:33,780 the the interweb? We're on the interweb. 546 00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:36,500 We are pretty active on social media. 547 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:40,220 We're kind of all these posting up videos kind of. 548 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,160 Back to our philosophy of, you know, telling people what it, 549 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,840 you know, giving them information. 550 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280 So on Instagram with Derrazio Peterson. 551 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,920 Facebook Derrazio Peterson. I'm on TikTok now. 552 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,320 My son was making fun of me yesterday. 553 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,600 Very nice. SMP Law, I think it is. 554 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,720 And then our website derraziopeterson.com and our 555 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,000 podcast talk Lex, which you've nicely mentioned. 556 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080 Yeah. And I know that we've got it up 557 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,600 on all of our websites. Saratoga today, Saratoga 558 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,040 Business Report, Glens Falls today. 559 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:12,540 Are you? But I can't remember off the top 560 00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:15,660 of my head. Are you on Spotify? 561 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:17,620 Apple, Podcast, all all the fun stuff. 562 00:28:18,540 --> 00:28:19,820 All the places. All the places. 563 00:28:20,020 --> 00:28:23,580 YouTube We have a YouTube's actually the best place to find 564 00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:26,900 us because all of our podcasts and videos are up there and you 565 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:28,780 know, my kids have a field day with it. 566 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:32,540 Of course. Quick YouTube story My we we did 567 00:28:32,540 --> 00:28:36,700 a, I want to say commercial, but we did a video a few years ago 568 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:40,600 with a. Company out of state, very kind 569 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:46,000 of like flat, flashy ish lawyer video with some former clients 570 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,320 and it came out good and we put it up on YouTube and my son or 571 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,960 my daughter was in their class and they pulled up a video to 572 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,200 watch for the class and the ad and the ad man, that's amazing. 573 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,200 And I think they were just like mortified. 574 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680 Yeah, of course they were hilarious. 575 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,240 Begging the question of that, I'm not quite sure that's our 576 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,840 intended demographic, but you know. 577 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,480 Maybe some? Could have been adjusted a 578 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,240 little bit there. Well, listen, appreciate you 579 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,720 coming on, coming in and for being a community partner up in 580 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680 Glens Falls and you know all the things that you do. 581 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,680 So thanks for being. Here, yeah thanks for having me 582 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,560 and thanks for everything you. Guys do absolutely thanks 583 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,920 everybody for listening and you'll hear from us next week. 584 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840 Don't forget, if you enjoyed the show, please send to a friend. 585 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,450 Share it social media. 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