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Some people might be mad at me 
for saying this, but I do think 

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that marriage it shouldn't be 
like till death do us part. 

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Till what do us apart then? 
I think it should, it should be 

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like a contract like oh, like 
this five year, 10 year 

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agreement. 
Yeah. 

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And then like we revisit the 
agreement and see if we wanna. 

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Which is not like a new concept 
because people like renew their 

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vows and everything, you know, 
what do you mean you don't know 

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that? 
No, people like, so after like 

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10 years or 20 years, people are
like, oh, we should renew our 

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vows to like, renew our love for
each other and like, but that's,

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that's more of like a, like a 
like unofficial thing that 

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people do. 
But I, I do think that people 

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should have it official. 
Like every 10 years you have to 

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renew the contract. 
But I just think that if there's

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like an expiration date that you
were more inclined to like, keep

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dating the person 'cause you 
'cause you don't really like, I 

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feel like marriages end because 
people stop. 

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They think that, oh, I've got 
it. 

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And like it's till when we die, 
you know? 

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Oh, I like that. 
I agree. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
Like that's some that has some 

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truth to it. 
It's like if you have a contract

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with this company for like a 
certain amount of time and by 

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the time it expires, you'll have
a performance review and they'll

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decide if you they want to keep 
you. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, if you're like, I don't 

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know, some government jobs, you 
just basically you can work 

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there for life. 
You just stop really working I 

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feel like. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I mean. 
I like how you're thinking. 

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It's like a business model like 
with employees. 

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With employees, Yeah. 
With like. 

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Kids and and dogs and yeah. 
OK. 

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So Annie, what's keeping you up 
tonight? 

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My business? 
Your business? 

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What's your business? 
I own a spa in midtown and a 

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nail salon next to it. 
Oh. 

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OK, so you've been like, like 
injecting people. 

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You've been, you've been giving,
you've been making facials, 

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facials and then nails. 
You've been making New York 

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prettier. 
Is that what you're doing? 

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I guess you can see that, yeah. 
But most people come in like, I 

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think they just have something 
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what we're doing is basically 
enhancing their natural beauty, 

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you know? 
Yeah, that's how I would try to 

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see it. 
OK, you're not trying to. 

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OK, I I like that. 
It's like, have you had any like

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high profile guests recently or 
ever? 

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High profile? 
Yeah, I don't know. 

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I don't think so. 
Well, you might not know they 

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might be, they may be a high 
profile. 

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Yeah, I would think like, do you
have like a big ball or big 

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spenders? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Some people just spend so much 
money and I'm just like, where 

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did they get all this money? 
What's the most they've ever 

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spent like? 
In one sitting, yeah, I think 

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like 3000 dollars, 3000. 
Well, I was thinking more like 

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like 10,000. 
Dollars 10,000 is no, no OK 

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anyone has not yet, but 3000 OK.
Yeah, I was. 

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Maybe I was thinking like, you 
know, like surgery, like a nose 

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drop was probably 10,000, but 
you don't. 

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Do that, but we don't do that. 
Yeah. 

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What do you do? 
Tell us if anyone wanna get 

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facials. 
Pretty body sculpting. 

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Facial Body sculpting. 
Nails. 

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Nails. 
Pedicure. 

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Yes. 
Wait, what? 

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Should I? 
That's your camera, that's why. 

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Oh shit. 
So yeah, these are my nails. 

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I think they're done by the same
people. 

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Yeah, Raina. 
Oh, she's. 

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So great. 
She's so good, Yeah. 

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How do you even find her? 
How do you find the nail 

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technicians that are so? 
That's so talented. 

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Oh my God. 
So I found Raina on Indeed, but 

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I think I'm starting to like 
look for people on Instagram 

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now, like look for their 
portfolio and then just like 

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Dming them. 
Yeah, you're like a. 

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Curator for your. 
Basically now I'm like a 

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curator. 
So what make you wanna start 

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like a? 
What is it called? 

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How do you call your business? 
Serene skin club and then serene

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nail club. 
OK. 

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Like what kind of business like 
Med spa, is that what you call 

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it? 
I would call it more facial spa 

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'cause I think that's like our 
volume, like everyone wants a 

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facial. 
Yeah, but we have injections 

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too. 
Yeah, those are the things I 

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really like, yeah. 
They really like. 

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Both both literally and 
metaphorically, anyways. 

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Not to be. 
Oh my gosh. 

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What type of injections do you 
like, Rachel? 

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You know, is it just a regular, 
you know, like a, you know, a a 

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few inches of needles? 
Yeah, how, how many inches do 

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you do you, how long 
demonstrate? 

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Well, you know, you know, the 
longer it gets, the more 

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intimidating it gets. 
Yeah, I would say start with the

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smaller ones. 
Whatever does the job better, 

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right? 
Yeah, yeah, size doesn't matter.

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Oh, it does. 
It, Yeah, yeah. 

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Right. 
From your experience as a owner 

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of such business? 
The size of the syringe doesn't 

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matter, but the size of 
something else does matter. 

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Exactly. 
Exactly. 

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Have you ever had wait, what we 
were talking about before I 

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started talking about this 
nonsense? 

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Hiring nail tags. 
Oh, right. 

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I mean, yeah, now I'm just a 
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I feel like just like hiring 
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I feel like nail is so different
from spa where nail there is 

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like like artistic skills to it.
Yeah, it can feel artistic, but 

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it's not like you're painting 
someone's face like nails. 

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You have to have the skills. 
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And I feel like when I did this 
nail at your nail spot, I really

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felt like she, she's really into
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She likes doing this. 
She likes it. 

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Yeah. 
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Like she's been doing this since
she's only 19. 

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Why? 
She's been doing it since high 

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school. 
That's crazy. 

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I can't believe she's 19. 
Yeah, she's so good. 

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She's a 19 year old. 
OK. 

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You definitely have to like I 
don't know is she is she also 

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like signed with other nail 
salon or she's like your own? 

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Yeah, she works somewhere else 
too, but yeah, wow, like you 

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better you better keep her. 
I know you better like make her 

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like your MVP or your you know 
yeah like make her like you. 

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I don't know your. 
Manager or something? 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Then master technician. 

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Yeah, she needs to be like 
teaching other people like. 

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She, I think she has. 
Been. 

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Oh, really? 
Yeah. 

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Oh, wow. 
Good for her. 

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So what made you wanna start a 
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Facial Spa. 
I, I basically, I graduated 

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college early and then after 
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manager for like I was a 
marketing manager for like 

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multiple small businesses. 
And then I just realized I, you 

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know, wanted to do my own thing.
And so I decided to take less 

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work on. 
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marketing for Med spas. 
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oh, I kind of enjoy this, you 
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for like beauty treatments. 
And so my mom was like, oh, I 

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want to do my own thing, but I 
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And my mom was like in the 
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And so she does injections. 
Oh, she's. 

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Really good y'all. 
She is good and she has, like, 

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really good eye for aesthetics. 
And then I was like, oh, you 

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should start your own thing. 
And then she was like, but who's

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And I was like, I can help, but 
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And so. 
And she was like, but she took 

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us so seriously. 
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So then the next day she was 
like, I found a place. 

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Wow. 
And then I was like, she didn't 

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talk about anything yet. 
Like with branding, Like, what 

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do we want to provide people 
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Like like nothing. 
We talked about nothing. 

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And so in the following week we 
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then we just signed it. 
Wow. 

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That's and then we opened within
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Wow, wow. 
You're, you're both like 

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entrepreneur, you're like an 
entrepreneur, like mom, 

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daughter. 
Like I love that we just like, 

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we just hustled basically. 
No, I, I didn't know it happened

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that quickly because I really. 
Yeah. 

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I told you. 
Wait, I know. 

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I know it happened, but I didn't
know like I thought you had like

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a all like a plan planned out 
and this is something you always

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wanted to do, but I didn't know.
No, it was just spontaneous. 

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Wow, yeah. 
Spontaneous. 

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Just start a business. 
Exactly. 

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So two months and then a year 
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So also really fast. 
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how you have to do it for like, 
I feel like this podcast is also

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like, I set this up within like 
a month. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, and like. 

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When you put your mind to it. 
I know what you have a vision 

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and you make it into a reality. 
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Oh, look at us. 
We're we're it sounds like. 

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But it sounds like your mom 
really wanted to do it. 

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It sounds like. 
I think so, yeah. 

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She was like. 
Because I was more like, oh, we 

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should plan this out. 
Like, duh, duh. 

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But once she and I kind of like,
agreed, you know, it's better to

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just take the opportunity as it 
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And we're just like all in, 
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OK. 
But you don't really do like the

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injection or facial yourself. 
You're more like the business 

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person. 
Yeah, but I learned how to do 

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facials and have a license now. 
Oh, really? 

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Yeah. 
So I that's why today I did a 

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few facials. 
Wait, can you do mine? 

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Next time, yeah. 
What did you do? 

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Like what exactly? 
I just did a signature facial. 

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OK, so just like a cleanse and 
all. 

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That stuff, I like it when 
someone does my facial, yeah. 

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Next time, next time. 
Wow. 

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And you're. 
So, but what did you study in 

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college? 
Marketing. 

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Oh, I went to FIT. 
Right. 

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We Speaking of FITI, when you 
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my ex-boyfriend wanted to go to 
FIT, but he didn't he. 

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Wanted to go to FIT. 
Why? 

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Because he's rich. 
I don't know. 

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It could be no. 
Because he, he want to do like, 

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I don't know, fashion designer. 
It's not. 

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Interesting, but he didn't want 
to do like Parsons or something 

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if he's. 
Rich. 

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Oh, I feel like he's not that 
smart or not that good. 

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Not that good. 
Yeah, no, I was like so pissed 

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because this is such a like 
diversion. 

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But if you don't mind, he yeah, 
he I like my high school 

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ex-boyfriend. 
He, I think his family's so 

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rich. 
He's like in the international 

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department of like another high 
school and yeah. 

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And I think his family owns 
business. 

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And I remember like when we're 
together, he's like, his English

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is so bad, like so much worse 
than mine. 

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And I was like, how do, why, why
are you in? 

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I feel like I should be in the 
international department, but I,

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I, it was expensive. 
It is like a private tuition and

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but he's his family's OK with 
that. 

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And he one day he's like, oh, I 
decided I want to go into 

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fashion design. 
I'm like, what the fuck? 

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I was like, I was like so pissed
because I feel like I'm the one 

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that's always artistic, but I 
never dare to think that I would

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want to go into fashion and 
design. 

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Right, right. 
But he has like he doesn't have 

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the skills, but he has the 
means, right? 

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You know what I mean? 
Exactly, Yeah. 

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Anyway, I'm sure you have the 
skills. 

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I can tell. 
I can for marketing, yeah. 

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Yeah, I think I've always had 
the entrepreneurial spirit for 

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sure. 
And so marking kind of plays 

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into it. 
I wanted to market my own 

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business, so it ended up 
happening like that, you know? 

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You know, I feel like you. 
I just found out about this when

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I asked Annie to be on the pod. 
Like she had a full on podcast 

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with like, I don't know, 80 100 
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episodes 80. 
Episodes that's that's like 10 

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times more than this this hot 
cast. 

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But I was not like this. 
I didn't have this whole set up.

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I I literally just had my mic 
in. 

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Well, you were. 
You were a trailblazer. 

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You, you, you. 
You run so we can walk, you know

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what I mean? 
So what what was your I want to 

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know more? 
What was your podcast about? 

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So I was basically doing 
something similar, but I was 

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just interviewing people and 
like, talking about their why? 

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Like, why in life? 
Like, why do they do these 

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things? 
Like why do they have their 

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business OK? 
Why do they live their life the 

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way they do? 
OK. 

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Yeah, it's like that. 
Imagine this is your podcast. 

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What would you? 
What would you ask me? 

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So at the end of every podcast, 
I would always ask them, like, 

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if you can go back and change 
anything about your life, Like, 

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would you change anything? 
And usually people say nothing. 

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And so I feel like that was 
something that I just kept going

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and asking because it was so 
interesting that people had such

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interesting and dynamic and 
sometimes sad lives, you know? 

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But then they would never change
anything about it because it LED

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them to who they are today. 
Yeah, I mean, I feel like if you

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interview someone who might not 
be a good in a good position, 

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maybe they wouldn't want to 
change something. 

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But I feel like right now I'm 
doing pretty good. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it's not the greatest, 

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but I feel like I'm content. 
Yeah, right. 

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Exactly. 
Yeah, something else I wanted to

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ask. 
Like I feel like I'm as a host I

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shouldn't be having ADHD because
I I forgot what like I. 

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Don't say I was like, what are 
we talking about? 

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Yeah, short term memory is is my
nemesis. 

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What? 
What just happened? 

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Wait, OK, you before the podcast
happened, I was like asking 

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Annie what she wanted to talk 
about. 

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She had so many. 
I like she had a good point, but

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I don't know why you tell us 
about your your my hot take. 

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Yeah, your hot take. 
My hot take. 

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So I I. 
Think that's a good one. 

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I think people should hear it. 
That's why, like, I really. 

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I Yeah. 
I think, I think it is a little 

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bit like some people, some 
people might be mad at me for 

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saying this, but I do think that
marriage, it shouldn't be like 

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till death do us part. 
Till what do us apart then? 

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I think it should, it should be 
like a contract like oh, like 

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this five year, 10 year 
agreement. 

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Yeah. 
And then like we revisit the 

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agreement and see if we want to.
Which is not like a new concept 

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because people like renew their 
vows and everything, you know, 

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what do you mean you don't know 
that? 

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No, people like, so after like 
10 years or 20 years, people are

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like, oh, we should renew our 
vows to like, renew our love for

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each other and like, but that's,
that's more of like a, like a 

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like unofficial thing that 
people do. 

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But I, I do think that people 
should have it official, like 

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every 10 years you have to renew
the contract. 

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Only 10? 
I feel like it should be longer 

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or or like anything. 
Or it depends on the, the 

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partnership. 
But 10 is just like an example. 

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But it's like, so like if 
someone was like, I want a 

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shorter contract, like 5 years, 
you know, then they, that's like

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their prerogative. 
But if they say 20 years, then 

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that's their prerogative too. 
But I just think that if there's

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like an expiration date that you
were more inclined to like keep 

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dating the person because you 
because you don't really like 

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you got. 
I feel like marriages end 

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because people stop. 
They think that, oh, I've got it

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and like it's till when we die, 
you know? 

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Oh, I like that. 
I agree. 

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Yeah. 
Like that's some that has some 

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truth to it. 
It's like if you have a contract

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with this company for like a 
certain amount of time and by 

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the time it expires, you'll have
a performance review and they'll

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decide if you they want to keep 
you. 

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But yeah, if you're like, I 
don't know, some government 

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jobs, you just basically you can
work there for life. 

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You just stop really working I 
feel like. 

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, exactly. 
I just think that like divorce 

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happens so often now and we we 
live in such a different time, 

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like till death do us part is 
such a old concept. 

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Yeah. 
Because now that's like if I 

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died at 40, I think it would be 
OK to like be with someone for 

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20 years, you know, But if I, if
I live to like 89, like imagine 

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I got married like in two years 
and I'd be what, 27? 

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And then I would be married to 
them for like 60 years. 

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Like, of course, like, divorce 
rates are so high. 

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Yeah, I mean, it's it's normal 
because like I guess we just. 

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Live longer, Yeah. 
So we have more marriages and 

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more divorces. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, I, I, I thought I saw 
like the divorce rate is like 

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50% now is, yeah. 
And so you have a 5050 chance of

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like, yeah, keeping the 
relationship. 

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Yeah, and. 
Yeah. 

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I feel like divorce. 
It's like, I feel like when you 

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get into the marriage, you have 
to be prepared for the 

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possibility of getting a 
divorce. 

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Yeah, I. 
Mean which is why there's there 

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should be an expiration date, 
but with the expiration date you

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can still divorce. 
It's just that you agree like 

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this is gonna end like. 
I like how you're thinking. 

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It's like a business model, like
with employees. 

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With employees. 
Yeah, with like with. 

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Kids and and dogs. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I like, I don't know how I can. 
So are you implementing? 

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Have you talked about this with 
your partner? 

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With my boyfriend. 
Oh we've been together for like 

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4 in a in like almost a half 
years. 4 1/2. 

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So have you like visited this 
topic of expiration date for a 

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marriage? 
I think so. 

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I feel like for him, him and I, 
we don't really see marriage as 

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like a necessary thing. 
So it's like different. 

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Like we're like like I feel like
we're more non traditional, if 

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that makes sense. 
Like, I feel you. 

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What? 
You know you're Asian? 

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No, I know. 
Right, you know, but my parents 

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like I feel like they kind of 
understand too, like the the day

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and age is like so different 
now. 

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Like I feel like I don't need to
marry him to like be with him 

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forever, if that makes sense. 
But if it comes and it comes 

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like, but it's not a big deal. 
Like to me where I'm like, I 

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need to get married. 
I need to have a wedding ring. 

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I don't have that need. 
But in terms of like all the 

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traditional stuff of like living
together and like having kids 

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and buying a house together, all
that stuff. 

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Like we, I feel like I can also 
like not live with him and still

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be with him forever. 
Like I don't need all those 

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things I feel like. 
I also feel like I would want it

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later in life cause to my point 
like we die later. 

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I feel like if I have the rest 
of my life to live with him, I 

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can start when I'm 45, you know 
what I mean? 

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I mean, I get it and but if you 
what do you mean start when 

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you're 45? 
Start what? 

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When? 
You, oh, start living together. 

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When you're 45. 
Cause like we have like many 

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more years together. 
That's true. 

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So I can live alone for like 
until 45, but that's like an 

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example. 
Yeah, but you don't necessarily 

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have to be with him for like, 
like, like, what if you're all 

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of like you are living by 
yourself for most of your life 

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and you're changing that aspect 
of your life so. 

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Like it's a drastic change and 
you're already 45. 

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You're like, oh, I'm, I'm done 
with this. 

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I don't want to like change 
myself to live with another 

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person. 
I think it's OK People change 

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all the time in every decade of 
their life, so I think it's OK. 

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Yeah. 
It's like if I live with him now

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and I don't live with him in 
five years, that's also a 

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change, you know? 
So it's like, it's just like 

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when you choose like your pace, 
yeah. 

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Yeah, I feel like for married 
couples, it's like harder for 

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them to live together and then 
take a step back and not live 

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together, right. 
Yeah. 

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So it's okay to push those 
milestones later that I think 

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that's my point. 
And it's like, it's like we 

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don't need to do all these 
things like because we dated 

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like for five years, you know? 
But I feel like it's such a 

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conscious decision because I 
feel like if I'm madly in love 

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with someone, I just want to be 
spend time with them 24/7. 

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Right, Yeah no, I agree. 
I was like that too. 

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The first like 2 years of 
dating. 

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Yeah him. 
I was like that. 

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I was like, I need to spend all 
my time with you like I don't 

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care. 
But then I was like, I think 

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once I started my own business, 
it it changed for me where I'm 

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like more independent and like, 
I want my own space and time and

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like, that is more precious 
'cause I have less of it, yeah. 

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Yeah, I get it. 
Yeah. 

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OK Tell us more about why are 
you dating a white man A. 

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White Man I. 
Know when I first met you I was 

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like, oh, you said you have a 
boyfriend and then I had your 

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Instagram like. 
When you're laughter. 

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That's, well, I want to know 
your answer first. 

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But yeah, it was like, I 
wouldn't say shocking, but I was

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like, no, no, it was because I 
didn't know. 

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And then I saw your Instagram 
and you're, you're posting it 

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with your boyfriend. 
I wasn't shocked. 

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I was mostly. 
Surprised. 

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Isn't that the same thing? 
Shocked is like. 

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Yeah, surprised. 
Surprise. 

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I mean, I, I'm not surprised. 
I mean. 

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You're not surprised, are you? 
Are surprised. 

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I'm not surprised because like, 
I mean, we're Asian. 

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Oh, kisses the the Oxford study.
Oh my gosh. 

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So my friend said that oh, I 
should dress up as like Yoko Ono

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and John. 
No, I messed up. 

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Is it that guy who the guy from 
The Beatles that like dated 

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that? 
Oh. 

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Gosh, I forgot his name. 
See I'm so bad with like names. 

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I don't know. 
Must be John Lennon. 

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John Lennon dated an Asian girl.
Is it John Lennon or is it 

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someone else? 
I didn't know. 

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I didn't know someone in The 
Beatles dated an Asian girl. 

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That's that's why she was like, 
oh, you should be them for 

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Halloween next year, like me and
my boyfriend. 

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And I was like, I was like, 
thanks. 

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Like just just just be myself, I
guess. 

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Like, and she can just dress up 
like a like a rock star. 

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Yeah. 
You should be the guy and he 

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should be the girl. 
You should be like, I don't 

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know, Margaret True and Quentin 
Tarantino, that's also a classic

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white man, Asian woman. 
Really. 

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Do you know? 
They were dated. 

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They were dating. 
I didn't know that. 

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Yeah, Quentin Tarantino was 
dating the Korean comedian. 

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What You know the? 
Like I know they are, I know the

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the director, but I don't know 
the. 

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Margaret True. 
Margaret True. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I'll show you a picture. 

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You don't know her. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, she's yeah. 
But my reasoning for dating a 

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white man? 
Have you always dated a white? 

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00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,480
Man no, I started with Asian. 
OK, me too. 

456
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,200
No, no. 
No, that was the one that I 

457
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,160
wanted to go to FIT that I was 
just complaining about. 

458
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,600
Yeah, yeah. 
So it was Asian and then it was 

459
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,720
black. 
Oh hell yeah. 

460
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,000
And I. 
Literally thought like I was 

461
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,680
like if I go black, I can't go 
back. 

462
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,000
I literally thought that I was 
like, oh, I can't go back. 

463
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,480
So I literally dated like like 
black, like dated multiple black

464
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,280
men. 
But I didn't like it was a long 

465
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,440
time. 
I was like just for fun. 

466
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,280
And you were. 
You're, you're, you're out there

467
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,560
breaking all these black men's 
heart. 

468
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,200
Yeah, literally. 
And I was like, I was like, I, I

469
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,160
just. 
And then after that I, I was 

470
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280
like, you know what, I should 
try something different. 

471
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,680
And then it was like Asian 
black. 

472
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,880
And then it was, it was 
Hispanic. 

473
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,120
Oh, OK. 
And then after that I was like, 

474
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,920
Nah. 
And then I was like, that's when

475
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,080
I was like on Bumble and like 
Tinder and all that stuff. 

476
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,240
And so then it was like a white 
man. 

477
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,120
Wow. 
And then it's been a white man. 

478
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560
It's been a white man, so a 
white man's. 

479
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,640
The keeper, yeah, I guess. 
Interesting. 

480
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,080
I don't know. 
I don't know what it is about 

481
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,480
him that. 
No, I no, I mean I'm like making

482
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,400
this a joke, but obviously it's 
because his personality, not the

483
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,200
fact. 
That he's white. 

484
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,440
White. 
Yeah, right, right, right. 

485
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,120
But yeah. 
But of course it's because he's 

486
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,400
white, no? 
Of course, of course. 

487
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:03,360
No, I we have very similar 
trajectory. 

488
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,760
I really, I started with Asian, 
with Asian guys. 

489
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,240
I mean, 'cause I lived in China,
I can't really date other other.

490
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,760
Yeah, and I wasn't really 
thinking. 

491
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,840
And I dated a black guy and you 
didn't know. 

492
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,080
No, wait, what? 
That's why I was like, hell 

493
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,880
yeah. 
Oh my God, I thought you were 

494
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,280
just hell yeah 'cause you 
weren't being like. 

495
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Appropriate. 
No, it's funny. 

496
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,640
Like it's like, yeah, so Asian, 
black. 

497
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,040
Yeah. 
And then I don't know. 

498
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,080
I not really, no. 
I haven't dated someone like 

499
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,960
seriously or boyfriend 
girlfriend a Hispanic guy, but I

500
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,160
when I'm yeah not not yet. 
Boyfriend. 

501
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,840
Girlfriend. 
No, no I didn't. 

502
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,640
OK, OK. 
Yeah. 

503
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,000
And then it's white. 
I don't know when I came here. 

504
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,920
I don't know. 
It's something about America 

505
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,560
transitioned me into liking 
white man. 

506
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,960
It's a. 
Soul the white, the white 

507
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,480
privilege and the white status 
quo it is. 

508
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,440
Yeah, maybe. 
It's the side, it's the water 

509
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,120
here. 
Maybe yeah, whenever I see like 

510
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:19,240
an Asian girl and a white guy 
couple, I feel I'm like, but no,

511
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,640
your your boyfriend is not mid. 
So I I approve. 

512
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,800
I approve. 
He's not mid, so he I. 

513
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,200
Don't know too much about him, 
but I saw his picture. 

514
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,040
He's not like he's taller than 
you. 

515
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,680
And he's like, yeah, well put 
together. 

516
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680
He looks put together, yeah. 
He's like 6 three. 

517
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,120
Wow, OK, pretty nice. 
So he's like he's like an inch 

518
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:45,160
short of like the the finance, 
the do you know 64 blue? 

519
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,240
Like is this 65? 
It was like 65 blue eyes. 

520
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,280
Is he in fact finance? 
No, he's not. 

521
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,880
He's in tech. 
He's in tech. 

522
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,600
OK, well my my OK, I reason must
tell me. 

523
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,880
No, I don't have to know. 
Now I don't. 

524
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,560
Have a reason? 
I think when I was in China, 

525
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,120
interestingly, I did more people
from all over the world because 

526
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,680
I was in Shanghai and there's a 
lot of international people I 

527
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,440
dated like people from not 
dated, but like went on dates 

528
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:25,400
with people from Brazil, like 
Mexico, Ecuador, Spanish, Spain,

529
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,840
France, Belgian, whatever. 
Miss worldwide. 

530
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Yeah, literally. 
But I feel like when I, well, 

531
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,080
when I came to the USI was in 
fucking North Carolina, there 

532
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,600
wasn't that many international 
people. 

533
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,800
Right. 
It was, like, mostly white. 

534
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,400
Yeah. 
Very white, Yeah. 

535
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,160
Oh. 
I just, I just went back to Duke

536
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,560
this past weekend and you know, 
I, I did a stand up set there 

537
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,280
and I have a joke about like I 
have a line about, I guess I can

538
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,560
say it here. 
I like white guys so much that I

539
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,040
got into stand up comedy. 
That was the original line. 

540
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,360
Oh my gosh, that's good and. 
Then I just riffed there. 

541
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:12,920
I was just like, it just came to
me. 

542
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,960
I was, I didn't prepare for this
line, but on stage when I was at

543
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,240
Duke, I just said I like white 
guests. 

544
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,560
I like white guys so much that I
got into Duke and oh. 

545
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,000
My gosh. 
I didn't feel like it made it 

546
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,360
made so much sense. 
I'm so sorry. 

547
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,840
I did they did they laugh? 
Were they like? 

548
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:37,520
I agree they were like. 
Oh no, no, there was like 1 

549
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,640
black guy. 
He was like laughing like 

550
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,480
non-stop. 
He's like banging his head. 

551
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280
I didn't even see his face. 
I was trying to like talk to him

552
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,120
after the show but I couldn't 
see his face. 

553
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,920
I don't know who it it was. 
Anyway, what was I talking about

554
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200
before I started? 
OK, yeah, I moved here and it 

555
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:00,960
was North Carolina, very white. 
I I remember my first stop in in

556
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,880
the US was Nashville and I. 
Remember, that's more white. 

557
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,360
Really. 
I think so. 

558
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120
That's where my black 
ex-boyfriend is from. 

559
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,440
But I mean, downtown Nashville 
is very white. 

560
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,760
It's like country music and 
stuff. 

561
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,920
And I remember the first time I 
go into an American restaurant, 

562
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,080
a restaurant in America, which 
is in Nashville, I was like, 

563
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,800
there's too many blonde people. 
Oh my God, why is everybody so 

564
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,680
blonde? 
And yeah, I feel like it's just 

565
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,960
like, unavoidable. 
It's like if if I don't date a 

566
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,200
white guy when I was in North 
Carolina, it was weird because 

567
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
then it feels like I'm avoiding 
it because it's. 

568
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,520
Like, because there's like, not 
like Asian men like freely 

569
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920
walking around. 
Yeah, there are some. 

570
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,240
But like, not a lot. 
Yeah, I mean, I would still, I 

571
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,120
would go on dates with them, but
the dominant group like 

572
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080
statistically? 
Was white men. 

573
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,640
Yeah, I mean, it's just like if 
you're living in, if you're, I 

574
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,520
don't know, if I'm living in 
Thailand, I can't just date 

575
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,280
Chinese people. 
I would date like a Thai guy I 

576
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,400
guess. 
Exactly. 

577
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,320
Yeah, I don't know, I feel like 
this is like how white guys 

578
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,640
justify dating Asian women when 
they're living in Asia. 

579
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,720
But like what? 
Well, that's interesting because

580
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,560
like, we're both in New York 
now, but it's still, even though

581
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,040
there's like more diversity, we 
still ended up with, oh, I do. 

582
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,200
Well. 
Oh well, cancel us. 

583
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Well, I feel like this is the 
least cancellable combination, 

584
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,480
isn't it? 
I feel like it's because isn't 

585
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,760
like, yeah, Mark Zuckerberg? 
It's like. 

586
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Oh yeah, Mark Zuckerberg. 
That's a big one, right? 

587
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,360
Yeah. 
Priscilla Chan. 

588
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,480
Yeah, I Oh my gosh. 
But she's like, she's like, 

589
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,560
amazing in her own right, too. 
Yeah. 

590
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,120
She's like a doctor and 
everything. 

591
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Yeah, I know. 
I feel like she's very she's 

592
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,160
amazing. 
But I feel people say that an 

593
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Asian wife is like an accessory 
for billionaires. 

594
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,080
It's like or a tech. 
Billionaire Do you know Becca 

595
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Bloom? 
Yeah. 

596
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,720
What about she's also Asian 
woman, white guy? 

597
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
When you're that rich, she's got

598
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,280
why are you? 
Yeah, well, you have so many 

599
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,680
options. 
Like, so it's like, I don't know

600
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,240
what it is like people who 
really should study this, like 

601
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,720
actually. 
Yeah, I think. 

602
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,120
People because like, the Oxford 
study was really about like 

603
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,720
television. 
That's what I heard. 

604
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,240
Like TV. 
Oh, I thought what I heard about

605
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,560
like Oxford study was more about
like dating apps. 

606
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Oh, really? 
Yeah, I need to look into it 

607
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,920
more deeply. 
Yeah, I feel like everyone's 

608
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080
saying, like, different things. 
Oh yeah. 

609
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Yeah. 
And do you know like the owner 

610
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,280
of Oracle? 
No, I think yeah, right now he's

611
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,720
like the most the richest 
person. 

612
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Really. 
Right now, yeah. 

613
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Right now he's like, did he buy 
like TikTok? 

614
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,880
I'm not sure. 
Yeah, Oracle is like more like, 

615
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,120
I don't know, assess SASSAAS. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

616
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,000
I don't. 
I remember seeing that they 

617
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,160
bought Oracle but like I mean 
bought TikTok but I don't know 

618
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,120
if it's the same company. 
I don't know, but whatever. 

619
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,760
Yeah. 
So yeah, what happened? 

620
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,240
The owner's like 81 and he 
married someone who's like 30 

621
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:41,400
something who's Chinese. 
OK, another bag. 

622
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Yeah, another bag. 
It was I and, you know, like 

623
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,920
Wendy Murdoch. 
Yeah, what about her? 

624
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Yeah, she's like she married a 
what is it? 

625
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,520
What's the, what's the Murdoch 
guy? 

626
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Rupert. 
Yeah. 

627
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Robert Rupert. 
I think it's Rupert. 

628
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,080
Rupert Murdoch Yeah, Yeah. 
It's like these women's story is

629
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,640
like very like well, spread in 
Chinese social media. 

630
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,840
Really. 
Yeah. 

631
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,760
Like everybody like trying to 
look into their, their, their 

632
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,600
life story and see how they got 
into it because they're all like

633
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,560
from not so not the greatest or 
most like prominent families in 

634
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,960
China and they but. 
They still like, yeah, they got 

635
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040
nailed the bag. 
Oh my gosh. 

636
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,160
I mean. 
Have you heard about their 

637
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,960
stories? 
I know Wendy, the Wendy one, 

638
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:44,520
because one of my aestheticians,
she saw her on our floor at the 

639
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,840
spa and she was like, do you 
know her? 

640
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,040
And I was like, I don't know 
her. 

641
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,880
And she's like, you don't know 
her. 

642
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,360
She's like that wife of Rupert 
Murdoch. 

643
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,920
And, and apparently they were in
the bathroom together and she 

644
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,840
saw her and she's like, it's 
definitely her. 

645
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,600
And she brought her daughter to 
get nails done somewhere on our 

646
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,720
floor. 
What? 

647
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,920
Not your nail salon? 
That's when I didn't have a nail

648
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,600
salon yet, but it was so crazy. 
Oh my God, I hope she comes back

649
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,320
and find your nail salon so you 
can do. 

650
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,800
No, I think she thought it was 
like disgusting or something. 

651
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,320
That's like the attitude that 
mine, oh, my aesthetician got. 

652
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,280
She was like, she probably 
thought like, this is like so 

653
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,159
dingy. 
Like how did my daughter even 

654
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,520
find this place? 
You know, really like, not like 

655
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,360
she wasn't like expressing that,
but it's just like, you can 

656
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,000
tell, like she's like, I'm a 
bougie lady, Like, Oh my hair, 

657
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,560
you know? 
I wonder where bougie ladies get

658
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,080
their nails done in New York? 
I agree. 

659
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,120
Wait, I need to know. 
Yeah, I need to know, like 

660
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,400
what's in that group chat of, 
like rich ladies over $1 

661
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,760
billion? 
They probably, I feel like they 

662
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440
sometimes have really busted 
nails to be honest. 

663
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,199
Yeah, and like, not so good 
skin. 

664
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Yeah, not to be misogynistic, 
but I just feel like they 

665
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,480
deserve, they deserve better. 
That's what I'm saying. 

666
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,480
Like the nails deserve better, 
yeah. 

667
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,600
Yeah, yeah. 
I feel like sometimes, like, 

668
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840
like it's still, sometimes I see
like, rich women's nails and I 

669
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,520
feel like, oh, it's so thick and
the shape is not the greatest. 

670
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,560
I'm like, girl, you need to do. 
You deserve better. 

671
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Yeah, like whoever's doing your 
nails is not doing your justice.

672
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,360
Yeah, I agree. 
Yeah, that's why good nails are 

673
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,880
so important. 
Exactly. 

674
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,840
No I feel like I was just 
thinking about this like if I 

675
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:35,320
have well if I have a limited 
money which I do but not enough 

676
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,560
to afford facials every day. 
But I would probably do facials 

677
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,880
before I do my nails though. 
I feel like it's more like face 

678
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,280
first I guess. 
Yeah, face 1st and then nail 

679
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,640
second. 
Yeah, but that's if like my skin

680
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,520
was so bad. 
If my skin is OK, I think it's 

681
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,400
OK to like not do it every 
month. 

682
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,960
I'm so like, like I, I, I'm 
like, I, I keep thinking about 

683
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,800
your business, 'cause I feel 
like if you, if I have a 

684
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,480
business that's like a mid spot 
and it can give me unlimited 

685
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,920
facials and like Botox and like 
fillers, I'm like, I'm gonna go 

686
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,800
crazy. 
How do you not go? 

687
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,400
How can you like not control 
yourself? 

688
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:19,120
I mean, I think it's kind of 
like, why do nail techs, like, 

689
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,040
don't always do their own nails,
you know, 'cause it's like, it's

690
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,160
like your job, you know? 
And then you're just like, oh, 

691
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,400
OK, I wanna check out after your
job, you know? 

692
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,040
And sometimes they don't have, 
like, the best nails or like, my

693
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,520
Lashtech, she doesn't have 
lashes herself. 

694
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,360
Like, she doesn't do her own 
eyelashes because you can't. 

695
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,760
And so she was like, and I don't
trust anyone else with 

696
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,160
eyelashes. 
So then she doesn't have lashes 

697
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,720
herself. 
And I was like, oh, why don't 

698
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,960
you have any lashes? 
Like, you're a lashtech? 

699
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,240
She's like, well, I can't do it 
on myself, and I don't trust 

700
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,840
anyone else to do it. 
So I just leave them bare. 

701
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,120
But it's like you can't really 
do. 

702
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,680
I feel like it's more like 
because you're not. 

703
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Because I'm the business owner, 
I can like like get all the 

704
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,880
services. 
Yeah, because you're not the one

705
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,240
providing the service. 
Yeah, I mean, when I provide 

706
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:11,080
facials now, I just like, I 
don't really like care to get 

707
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,440
facials either, but I just do my
own skin care. 

708
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,320
But then with a very like 
different treatment, maybe like 

709
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,440
nails. 
Like nails. 

710
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,560
I think I switch every two weeks
now because I can. 

711
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,680
Yeah. 
Oh, hell yeah. 

712
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,520
Hell, yeah. 
But what else do I do? 

713
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,880
I mean, I guess, I guess I can 
ask my mom for injections. 

714
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,480
But then like, and then she 
would always say like, oh, 

715
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,280
you're beautiful already, you 
know, like, don't, don't try to 

716
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,120
like add too much or whatever. 
Yeah. 

717
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,520
So she's like sweet like that. 
And then, and then I'm like, oh,

718
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,440
but like, my face is uneven. 
And she's like, but every face 

719
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,120
is uneven, you know, like things
like that, Yeah. 

720
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,560
That's that's no, that's how you
know it's she's legit because 

721
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,960
she's not like. 
Yeah, like injecting me like, 

722
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,080
non-stop. 
Yeah. 

723
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,080
But she's like that with 
clients, too. 

724
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,120
She's like, like, you don't need
that. 

725
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Like they'll be like, I want to 
get rid of this. 

726
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,240
And then she's like, you don't 
need to do that. 

727
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:07,000
Like you would just look so 
unnatural. 

728
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Yeah. 
So like, her goal is always 

729
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,480
like, make people look natural. 
Oh, that's the best because 

730
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,720
she's like, yeah, I remember 
when I like I had an interaction

731
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,920
with her. 
I should have her on the pot. 

732
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,400
Does she can she be on? 
I don't know. 

733
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,760
No, no. 
I don't think. 

734
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,440
So yeah, I feel like she's not. 
Yeah, but I remember when I was 

735
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,800
hit with her with So Funny, she 
was like encouraging me because 

736
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,120
I did like the. 
What is it called? 

737
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,640
Like Shrikhandran? 
What's the? 

738
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,000
Skin Booster. 
Yeah, the skin booster and I was

739
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,560
like, I'm like so scared and and
and I just thought it was so 

740
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,240
funny. 
So don't cry. 

741
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,680
She's like, oh, you're so poor, 
baby. 

742
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,920
Yeah, don't cry. 
Yeah, it. 

743
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,280
Was very sweet. 
She would always say like, yeah.

744
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,000
Very that's like how I feel like
she and Rain. 

745
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,680
What's her Raina? 
Raina. 

746
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Yeah, yeah, you should like, I 
don't know, put I don't know. 

747
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,240
I feel like if you're doing 
social media, I feel like that's

748
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,760
like the personalities you 
should put as the front. 

749
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,960
I don't know. 
But like, not everyone wants to 

750
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,320
be like, like, you know, in 
front of a camera, like, do all 

751
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,640
this stuff. 
Yeah. 

752
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,760
Yeah, it's tough. 
It is tough, so that's why we 

753
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,040
just get influencers to come. 
Right, if you're influencer. 

754
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,640
Contact. 
Yeah. 

755
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,000
Come, yeah. 
What do you need influencers 

756
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,360
too? 
What do you what are your like 

757
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,560
right now or like in a month? 
Because this will probably be 

758
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,400
posted in a month. 
Really. 

759
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Yeah, I guess in a month they'll
be like December, right? 

760
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,600
So like Christmas specials maybe
just like different like 

761
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,920
treatments we want to promote 
this like lifting treatment like

762
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,760
non invasive like does actually 
work. 

763
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,880
Yeah, it does. 
It looks it is really good. 

764
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,680
It's like using like RF with RF 
radio frequency to like 

765
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,240
stimulate the collagen in the 
face and so that your face just 

766
00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,800
like naturally gets like 
tighter. 

767
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,400
OK. 
Yeah. 

768
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:08,080
I need OK what's the if? 
If I can only do me like me, 

769
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,000
like someone who looks like me 
at the same age as me, like, you

770
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,760
know, skin condition, whatever, 
what should I do? 

771
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,080
Do you think that's that going 
to be like the most, you know, 

772
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,920
useful for right now? 
And what is it that I'm going to

773
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,280
do like maybe in 10 years? 
Oh, in 10 years, yeah. 

774
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,040
I think now I think just like a 
general cleaning, like skin, 

775
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,280
like, you know, signature facial
is going to be just OK. 

776
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,200
You know, I feel like you don't 
have to do too much. 

777
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Like I think people think that 
you have to do so much to your 

778
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,560
skin to make it good. 
But I think the more I 

779
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,960
simplified my routine, the 
better my skin got. 

780
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,880
It's like when I like try to do 
like the whole like 10 step, 20 

781
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,520
step, that's when my skin got 
like so bad. 

782
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:53,960
Really. 
Yeah, that's why I broke up so 

783
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,440
much like, but now it's like 
healing. 

784
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,120
I just reduced it to like 5 
things and my makeup routine is 

785
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,000
like like 4 things. 
OK, yeah. 

786
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000
But I, I'm just like I'm so 
recently. 

787
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,880
I've been not recently but in 
the back of my head I'm so 

788
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,040
scared of aging. 
So in 10 years, yeah, I'll do 

789
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,000
more anti aging stuff. 
But shouldn't I be worried now? 

790
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,360
I feel like the the the sooner I
start anti aging the slower. 

791
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,080
Slower, yes. 
Maybe just includes like a 

792
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,280
retinol or a tretinoin to your 
your skin care routine. 

793
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,160
You're not even suggesting me to
do any of the stuff that you're 

794
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,000
providing you. 
You don't think I should do like

795
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,600
a lifting or anything like that?
Now, I mean, you can start now, 

796
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,360
but you don't have to do it like
as often as like, as like 

797
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,600
someone who's older with like 
fine lines and like wrinkles, 

798
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,280
you know what I mean? 
Yeah. 

799
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,400
Do you think? 
OK, one last question before you

800
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,520
end the pod. 
Do you think it's true that 

801
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Asian women don't age? 
Do you think that's true that 

802
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,400
with Asian women age more 
gracefully? 

803
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,200
Honestly, I don't know, 'cause 
like, I, I've seen like both, 

804
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,960
like I've seen like, there's 
some Asian women that like, age,

805
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,560
like, not well, and then there's
some that age really well. 

806
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,720
I think it really, you know, 
it's like what you put in your 

807
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:19,720
body, how you take care of 
yourself, you know, how you 

808
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,960
treat yourself and like, how you
surround yourself with, like, 

809
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200
good people. 
Yeah. 

810
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480
So. 
So yeah, I guess it's a myth, 

811
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,480
so. 
I do think it's a myth. 

812
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,800
I think my mom aged really well,
so maybe I just inherited her 

813
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800
genes. 
Maybe. 

814
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,520
But like, that all depends. 
You know, like how I take care 

815
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,440
of myself. 
How does she take care of 

816
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,520
herself? 
I think so. 

817
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,480
How? 
How did she? 

818
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,240
Oh, just like eat well, like 
laugh a lot. 

819
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:50,640
Did she like do anything 'cause 
I mean she is a technician? 

820
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Oh yeah, like she. 
And then she also injects 

821
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,600
herself. 
Oh yeah. 

822
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,360
I can't imagine like the other 
day she was telling me that she 

823
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,000
injects herself. 
I'm like what the fuck? 

824
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,040
Yeah, not a lot of injectors can
say that. 

825
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,320
Oh, really? 
Yeah, 'cause like, they can't. 

826
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,320
Like most injectors probably 
will get it from someone else, 

827
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:07,960
but my mom just does it on 
herself. 

828
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,560
She's like. 
Does it mean that she's more 

829
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,560
skilled or she's just she just? 
She just used her face as like, 

830
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000
like a canvas, like, she tried a
lot of stuff on herself. 

831
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,400
So she knows. 
Wow. 

832
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,480
Yeah. 
Wow, that's that's that's how 

833
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,200
you know you can trust her 
'cause she's tried it herself. 

834
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:26,080
She's. 
Tried it all. 

835
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,800
I'm so scared of needles I can't
imagine. 

836
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,920
Her trying everything. 
Yeah, you know, not everybody 

837
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,480
can handle a lot of injections. 
Yeah, like that I agree. 

838
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,720
But I do think, I mean that 
could be part of her aging well,

839
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:46,240
but she's always aged well like 
like before injection. 

840
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:50,440
So she's always looked young. 
I thought it was something that 

841
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,480
I can replicate. 
I guess it's your genes. 

842
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,200
I think it's genes too, 'cause 
my grandma looks like really 

843
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,360
young too. 
Damn. 

844
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,000
Yeah, I think it's genes. 
So like, I think it's part 

845
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,520
genes, but I think it's part and
like how you take care of 

846
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,920
yourself and like environment, 
you know, how happy you lived 

847
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,600
your life because some people 
who lived like really like in, 

848
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,960
in Cantonese, we call it Foo. 
Like really like like not 

849
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,240
fortunate lives, really just 
like not like happy lives. 

850
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,800
And you just don't age well. 
You just like your body 

851
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,600
naturally, like you know. 
Yeah, just yeah, I I agree. 

852
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,120
Like happier life will make you.
Like you're you're. 

853
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,840
You will keep your youth longer.
Yeah, exactly. 

854
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,280
OK. 
And I think that applies to all 

855
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,760
races. 
Yeah. 

856
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,400
Like, you know, like there's 
always like a joke about that 

857
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,200
like Asian don't raise in or 
like blocked on crack. 

858
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,280
You know, like there's always 1 
like. 

859
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,080
But that's not true in your 
opinion as a Med. 

860
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,800
Spot owner Yeah, I think it 
depends. 

861
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,440
Some people really fool you with
their age. 

862
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,560
Something should be secret. 
Something stopped. 

863
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:03,520
What stopped? 
Oh wow, It it overheated. 

864
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,800
It's overheated, that one. 
Really. 

865
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,880
Yeah. 
Oh my gosh. 

866
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,000
Because you're too. 
Hot. 

867
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,800
Oh my gosh, yes. 
Sad that that didn't make it in 

868
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,880
that line. 
Well, it's in the. 

869
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,360
Oh yeah. 
Technically, yeah, yeah, yeah, 

870
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,400
yeah. 
So we have backup. 

871
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,760
So yeah, I guess that's all for 
today's podcast. 

872
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,720
Thank you so much for coming. 
Thank you for having me. 

873
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:30,600
This is so nice. 
Of course, yeah.

