Oh, my God, I dated a guy once with really horrible skin.
And it was a big deal to me because I was like, if I marry
him and we have kids, I don't, I can't, I won't be able to relate
to my daughter when she has like, great.
And she's like, your skin was never bad.
I'll be like, yeah, you're right.
Oh. My.
God, and it wasn't. You're gonna be your your kids
bully. You're like.
Yeah, like, I don't know. I don't know how to help you,
dude. Mommy never had bad skin.
Did you have bad skin growing up 'cause your skin looks really
nice. Your skin is glowing.
Oh. Thank you.
This is birth control. It's all birth control's.
Yeah. It's it's been, it's been good.
No, it's it hasn't been good before I was on birth control
and then I found it, I started taking birth control before I I
kind of started having sex. So it's kind of Yeah.
But I had really bad acne when I was in like high school.
Oh. My gosh, really?
Yeah, I know you can't relate, but it's OK.
It's. It's like it's like the worst
age too to have acne and I feel like I feel like so many people
have acne in high school. I feel like it's.
Well, I'm glad glad you had never had acne.
It's like, I don't know if you can.
I don't know if you you're that relatable anymore.
I it's. Done.
I'm camp with friends. I'm just leave.
I'll leave now. Bye.
No I didn't know you were like upper class like that with with
no acne. I can't believe you never
suffered. No, that never is there like
anyone else I know. This is actually the worst my
skin has been. I it finally started clearing
up. But it was, yeah, it's the the
top. My forehead is still kind of
bad, but it finally started clearing up.
But the other day I was, I looked in the mirror and it was
just, I don't even know what it was.
It wasn't like pimples, but I just had like bumps all over my
face and it lasted for a few days and then it just went away.
I had no idea what it was. I I have no idea what.
You're talking about. Like I'm looking at you and
like, are you wearing makeup? Not right now, no.
Oh. My God, I can't do this.
But Haley, what's keeping you up tonight?
So what's keeping me up? I think is trying to
differentiate who I am and who I want to be versus what society
tells women what they should be or what they should want to do
with their lives. I I feel like I struggle with
that too. What's your like the most recent
example or most memorable thing? I feel like, so my brother just
got engaged and he's going to start like wedding planning and
he wants like kids before a certain time.
And he's very rigid with the way that he has everything set up
and I'm not. And I've even thought about it
where like there are other women out there who, you know, like
motherhood completes them and that's like all they've ever
wanted to do. And I feel like I would want to
be a mom, but I don't think it would fulfill me solely being a
mom And my entire life, you know, you're told that like as a
woman, there's a lot of people that believe as a woman, you're
not complete like, quote UN quote until you're a mother.
And it took a long time for me to be like I can be so many
other things before I'm a mother, or even instead of being
a mother, and I could still lead a happier life.
I could still be happy. Do you feel like the society is
telling you to be a mom and like, I don't know, get married
and have kids? Yeah, I feel like it's not as
big of a thing now as it used to be, but I think it's still kind
of an expectation that once you hit a certain age, you're
getting married and you're having kids and you're supposed
to settle down. And I'm not old by any means,
like, I'm 28, but you know, by this age my mom was married and
she was trying for a baby, and I'm nowhere near ready for any
of that. And I can't see myself being
ready for that for a few years at least.
I mean, that's normal. I feel like I, I used to really
think that I'm gonna be like no marriage, no kids.
But now I'm like, Oh my God, maybe I maybe I do.
I don't know. I feel like I, this was like
kind of like a culture shock if it makes sense because I, I
lived in China, I grew up in China and I before I came here,
I feel like I thought everybody or women at least they're very
like feminist and they're very progressive.
That's like my view on like American women.
And I thought nobody's gonna like everybody's like, so like
against like certain like patriarchy and like, you know,
the system. So I thought people would like,
be against marriage, be or be against having kids because
that's what like, I guess progressive feminist.
I thought what progressive feminists are supposed to be.
And then I came here and everybody, Oh my God.
It's so obvious there's. So many frat wife.
It's such a thing. So I've been thinking about
that. I don't know, maybe it maybe
it's the environment that kind of made me think like it's not
that bad to. Be a domestic woman.
Yeah. And it's, it's so different.
But I mean, the I think the good thing too, though, is that we
live in New York and like living in the city.
I feel like living in, honestly, any city I feel like is better
than if we were in like a small town.
Yeah, It would be a lot more expected to, you know, get
married and have kids by a certain age.
I feel like in New York, you can kind of, like, take your time.
Yeah. So if you want to wait a little
bit and try to figure out what you want, it's not really as
insane as, like, what? I have friends from my hometown
that have already been like married and divorced before 25.
Wow, married and divorced. Yeah, married kids, divorced,
and it was before they turned 25.
Kids too. Yeah.
I mean, it's insane. It feels like they checked out
off their list and now they can do whatever they want.
Yeah, right. That's the good thing too.
Like like being AI guess a young mom is you have a kid at 21 and
then by the time you're 40 they're like away at college and
you can do whatever. Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, it's not that bad to be like I'm free by 40.
Yeah, and I'm not. I don't even want a kid until
I'm like mid 30s. I'll be like 40.
I'll be in the thick of it by the time I'm 40.
Yeah, I was thinking that too. I was like, it's better to be a
I don't know If I'm not having, I feel like I should have a kid
before 22 or after 40. I don't know.
I feel like there's no other work for me.
Yeah, I like either one, like it's one extreme or like the
other. Yeah.
And I always say I know. Well, my boyfriend wants to have
a lot of kids. He told me the other day he was
like he said the other day, he was like 5 minimum.
I was like minimum is insane. First of all, Max 3.
Let's start there. Oh.
My God, I'm well, I'm glad you're talking about that.
Well, and I didn't know. I feel like he is a very sweet
guy. I I get it.
I feel like he could be like a very, I can see like why he's
like into family and a lot of kids.
Yeah, he's and he's great. I have, you know, I already
know, like I do want kids at some point.
And I think if I if I have a kid, I definitely would want
more than one. Why I?
I had siblings growing up and it was just such a special
experience for me and the love that I have for like my 2 little
brothers is such a strong, it's such a strong thing that I would
want, I want everyone to be able to experience sibling love.
Wait so your brother that got engaged with younger than you?
Yeah, that, that's like another thing that's been weird for me.
He's 26, I'm 28, he's 26. He's gonna be 27 in a few weeks.
And he got engaged, yeah, just a few weeks ago.
Wow, I can't imagine that. I mean, I, I guess I can.
That's like 26. It's people.
I guess people get engaged at 26.
Yeah, it's so weird to me, but I mean, he's really, they're so
happy, so they have no doubts at all.
But I at 26, I would have had doubts.
I could not have. I was not like mature enough
mentally to be engaged at 26. I feel like I don't believe in
love. To be engaged.
Well, I don't know. Like at all or just by a certain
age? But maybe by a certain age,
maybe like a certain age, I'm like, fuck it, whatever.
But I feel like right now I'm like, I do.
I really believe that this one person is gonna be with me for
the rest of my life, which is about like, if I live to 100,
that'll be like 70 years. That's a lot of time.
I don't know if that's how human brains work.
It's, it's scary. The thought of that is scary.
And even like who has it? Beverly Cleary, she's a writer.
Do you know her? She's a writer.
She lived to 104 and her husband died at 84.
And that's just insane to me 'cause I'm like, imagine your
husband dying at 84, which is a age, an old enough age for
people to die at and you still have 20 years just by yourself.
It sounds kind of cool. I'm like.
Well, does she have like grandchildren or children?
Yeah, she had, I think she had kids and she had grandkids and
she died at 104 in like a nursing home.
But that's just insane to me to be like, I had a husband 20
years ago and he died at 80. Four.
That's crazy to me. I don't know.
I mean, what do you even do between like 84 and 104?
Yeah, I feel like by that point you're just once if I want to
live to be 100 and then I can die.
I like I when after you're 100, what do you even?
Are you even like there like mentally all there?
I wonder too, but I mean, like, it's kind of cool to say that,
well, I'm 100 years old. Yeah, right.
That's that's why I want to. I always said when I was like
15, I used to tell people I'm like, I'm either dying when I'm
27 or I'm going to turn 100 and I'm living to 100.
There's no one between, OK? I'm either going to die young
and hot, or I'm going to live outlive everybody else.
Well, I think you're still going to be hot for for a little bit
longer, but maybe not as long as 100.
But I think you still have, even if you died at like, I don't
know, 32, you'll still. That could be, yeah.
That's still young and hot. Yeah, yeah. 100.
I can't say young and I can't really say hot, but maybe I've
been doing night cream so maybe. Yeah, I feel like I should do
some. Your skin is amazing by the way.
Thank you, it's been like breaking out weirdly recently.
I don't see any breakout. What the fuck I I'm lucky my mom
never had bad skin. I'm lucky I was Oh my God.
I dated a guy once with really horrible skin and it was a big
deal to me because I was like, if I marry him and we have kids,
I don't, I can't, I won't be able to relate to my daughter
when she has like, great. And she's like, your skin was
never bad. I'll be like, yeah, you're
right. Oh my.
God, and it wasn't. You're gonna be your your kids
bully. You're like.
Yeah, like, I don't know. I don't know how to help you,
dude. Mommy never had bad skin.
Well, that's, that's such a big flex.
I feel like I would, yeah. Did you have bad skin growing
up? Because your skin looks really
nice. Your skin is blowing.
Oh. Thank you.
This is birth control. It's all birth controls.
Yeah. It's it's been, it's been good.
No, it's it hasn't been good before I was on birth control
and then I found it. I started taking birth control
before I kind of started having sex.
Yeah, so. It's kind of yeah, But I had
really bad acne when I was in, like, high school.
Oh. My gosh, really?
Yeah, I know you can't relate, but it's OK.
It's like it's like the worst age too to have acne and I feel
like I feel like so many people have acne in high school.
I feel like it's it would be worse now because I know people
that have like horrible cystic acne in there like 35.
Oh, really? Yeah.
I don't know, Like, I'm thinking, can you still take
birth control after you're 35? I thought that's like, not
recommended. So I don't know what I'm gonna
do. 35 yeah, it's not recommended.
I didn't know that. Or I don't know, I think you
have to do more like check UPS if after 30 or or or it's like
35 and you're smoking I. Don't know.
Oh, everything, yeah, is so difficult.
I know it is. It is pretty difficult.
Well, I'm glad glad you had never had acne.
It's like, I don't know if you can.
I don't know if you're that relatable anymore.
I it's done. I'm with friends honestly.
I'll leave now, bye. No I didn't know you were like
upper class like that with with no acne.
I can't believe you never suffered.
No, that I never saw like anyone else I know.
This is actually the worst my skin has been.
I it finally started clearing up, but it was, yeah, it's the
the top. My forehead is still kind of
bad, but it finally started clearing up.
But the other day I was, I looked in the mirror and it was
just, I don't even know what it was.
It wasn't like pimples, but I just had like bumps all over my
face and it lasted for a few days and then it just went away.
I had no idea what it was. I I have no idea.
What you're talking about? Like I'm looking at you and
like, are you wearing makeup? Not right now, no.
Oh my God, I can't do this. I wish, I wish I was good at me.
I'm really, I wanna learn. I've been trying to get good at
makeup because I was really bad at it for a while.
I was really bad at doing eyeliner and stuff.
But I've been practicing lately and so I've been doing it for
mostly for events and things because I just want to get good
at it because I have so many friends that are so they can do
so many cool looks and I'm just so jealous.
You're jealous? No, they should be jealous at
you. No, I, I, it's so cool because
you get to like, you know, Smokey eye or like eyeliner,
like just different lipsticks and stuff.
And I just want to be able to do that.
And I feel like it always kind of depending on the outfit that
you have, if it's, you know, a formal event, it always kind of
enhances. Oh, I see what you mean.
Yeah. What kind of formal events do
you go to? Now honestly, it's just, it's
the same thing we're talking about.
It's just like weddings and like engagement parties.
I went to one of my best friends of like 10 years.
I just went to her baby shower on Sunday.
Baby shower, How old is she? She's 28, so we're, she's so
happy. We're so excited for her.
She's been, she's been wanting a baby for a really long time and
she's so happy. She's gonna be a great mom.
I'm so excited. But it's just like, it's just so
crazy because I met her when we were 18 and we used to like go
to bars and go out together all the time, and now she's going to
be a mom. That's crazy.
Your mom like you. Have you seen that Love Island
clip? Oh, and she's like Mamacita.
Yeah, Oh my God, I can't believe that.
I I just went to a wedding too, but it wasn't like, it was also
like someone like maybe like 2826.
Yeah, at that age, I don't know. I feel like I've been so out of
it. It's like I've been like I
sometimes hang out with older people.
Like some of my friends are older, like some comedians are
older. And I feel like after learning
about their story, they're like divorce.
And they're have, they have to like deal with custody and
they're like, Oh my God, I don't know if I want to get married.
I mean, I'm like, I'm glad I know all of this information
about divorce and custody, but that just makes me not want to
use this information like not like, I don't know, get into
like a marriage or and then having to do.
Oh yeah. Separation.
I don't know. Especially like I always think
of, I don't know exactly where I'm going to end up for the rest
of my life, but I think about like, OK, if I get married and
then I have kids and then we divorce.
And even though I'm single, I have to stay in this place for
until my kids turn 18 at least. Because if I'm like splitting
custody, I have to stay in relatively the same area, which
is also something to think about.
That is true that. Now I'm tied to this area for
however many years. Yeah, for the for before the kid
turned 18, I guess. Wow, that is true.
I've heard of people like they were like fighting about it.
I've heard things like that, like they want to move but they
can't. Yeah.
And it's, I know, like my
brother is planning on moving to the South probably.
Well, they're not completely sure, but they're looking at
places in the South in North Carolina.
And it's like just that. Also, that's like another thing
for me, like getting married and then being like let's find where
we're going to live for the next however many years is such a
daunting thing to think about. Yeah.
I mean, maybe it's not for you. Yeah, you don't have to do that.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good thing.
I mean, I, I'm lucky that in my relationship we're not really
rushing anything yet. I think that like marriage is
definitely something I do want to do eventually, but I'm not, I
don't need to rush to get into to get married.
You know, I, I know I'm with the right person now and it doesn't
have to be. So there's no need to rush it.
And I think I'm on, we're on similar timelines.
I don't think it needs to be. People are already asking like
after a year you should be engaged.
I think that that's too. I think that's really fast.
That is really fast personally. Like after a year, you haven't,
I don't know you haven't. You've only been through, I
don't know, every holiday once. Exactly.
Yeah. My whole thing is I, my rule was
always I, I am with you for a year, and if you don't give me
the ick within the year, then we can live together.
And if after a year of living together you don't give me the
ick, then you can ask me to marry you.
And then if I don't get the ick from you when we're like talking
about the planning of the wedding, we can actually start
to. Plan.
Oh my God. I.
I'll be looking at what you're doing in like 2 years.
She she didn't get the ick. Oh my God.
But I know you're dating a comedian.
Yeah, I I know this is like very personal, but I'm always so
curious how does it feel? Cuz I I have a rule for me like
I'm I would never date a comedian.
I had a rule for myself too. I guess he must be very good
that you broke the rule. He So when I first met him, I
really, really liked him. As soon as I met him, I loved
him and by I was really strict with myself where I was like, I
won't date a comedian. I'm not there for that.
So we were friends for a few months and I would tell him
like, oh, I don't date comedians.
I don't like comedians. And then at this, in the same
breath, I would turn around and like tell my other friends like
he's not asking me out because he doesn't like me.
And they're like, well, you're telling him that you would never
date someone. Yeah, he was a comedian and he's
a comedian. And then he ended up just asking
me out anyway. And I, I figured at some point I
kind of figured it was going to happen.
Once I got really into comedy, I was like, the only place that I
go is school work and I do comedy and I, there's no one at
school or work. So no one, there was no one, no
one. Well especially with school
because I'm 28 going for an undergrad, I will get hit on by
like kids, like 20 year old kids.
You don't like 20 year old? No, there was one guy asked me
out and he was like, did you wanna go to dinner or something?
And I said I'm 27. And he goes, well, I'm 19, so
I'm legal. So it's the same thing.
And I said to him, I go, I want you to turn 27.
And then come to me and tell me how you would feel if a 19 year
old wanted to get dinner. Like, it's not, we're not, it's
not the same. It's diabolical.
You know the first thing when you ask someone what do you want
for dinner or what do you want for what do you want to do for a
day? And then they said I'm legal.
Just so you know, I'm legal. And it's like, see, I should
never have to be in a situation where you need to clear that up.
And that's the first problem. That is true.
Oh, wow. I can't imagine.
But I, I've heard people like who are dating like younger guys
and they're having a lot of fun. Yeah, but you can't even.
I mean it's legal, but not legal because they still can't get a
drink. No, exactly.
And that's like the at 28 years old, I don't want to have to be
hanging out with anyone where I'm like, we can't go here
because they card. That's crazy.
I don't want to be doing that. I want to be like my boyfriend
and my circle of friends, all well over 20.
One, yeah, that's true. That's the threshold.
I don't know. I feel like when I was 21 I was
dating like older guys. Yeah, all my friends when we
were 21, we were like, I wasn't because my mom would have
flipped out. But I have so many friends who
were 21. This one girl I knew was 21
dating like 50 year old guys. 50 year old guy?
Yeah. How did that turn out?
Not great because they were. I mean, there's a reason if
you're a 50 year old man and you're on Bumble with your
settings to like 21, there's a reason why you're on Bumble at
50. Which is?
Which is which is what? What's the reason?
The women of your age group know there's something wrong with
you. There's they can see something
that a 21 year old woman can't yet see.
And that's why you're not you have to go so much younger.
That's a good point. I I have seen people who are
like on dating apps. Well, I I sometimes I don't
know, maybe I have maybe I'm the problem because I like I
sometimes look at dating apps and they're like, I'm like how
this guy so fucking old and still on dating.
I've been swiped on me. Give me a like, little did I
know, like I didn't realize I I turned on the age thing.
I should have, yeah. Oh is it different like dating
older guys or like matching with older?
Because I've never gone on a date with someone much older
than me. Oh, I think it's like, I don't
know, I, I feel like people are just people.
It feels like if they don't look like too old, they don't have
like, they, you know, have their night cream and stuff.
Well, I haven't gotten that far to like, over 100 years old, so
I don't know about that part. Maybe, Yeah.
I feel like it's also different 'cause if you're, you know, I
feel like if you're 2021, you're still really young compared to
like now. If my friend was like 30 and was
dating a 50 year old, I wouldn't think it was as weird.
I feel like 30. I'm like, OK, you kind of have
more of a sense for who you are and what you want out of life
than if you're 20 years old. So do you think it's problematic
that OK I think I've had this conversation with someone else
before but I want to know your opinion.
If someone 16 dating someone 18 is that problematic?
Problematic 16. Dating 18.
I think it just depends. I think it depends on how they I
feel. Like, OK, OK.
They're in high school than you know, whatever.
Or if they had been dating before, it wouldn't bother me.
It wouldn't be a thing. But I think it would be weird if
it was like the 18 year old was in college or graduated high
school and then they met the 16 year old somewhere else like,
oh, we were at, I don't know, party and I met them.
It's like, why are you still checking for 18 year olds?
But if you or 16 year olds, but if you, I think you know, if it
was like in high school and one person's a senior and one
person's like a junior or a sophomore, it's not that big of
a deal. What if like 18 I feel like?
I think my point is like, it seems like once you pass passed
a threshold, you can like, date like people who are in a much
bigger age gap than like, like after 22.
It feels like, like, how do I say it?
Like an 18 dating a 24 year old might be more problematic than
like 26 dating. What's the age gap?
2026 dating 32? It's like 6 year, Yeah.
Yeah, I agree. I think, I feel like for me,
once you're like 25, I don't think it's as weird.
OK. So you, yeah, when you were 25,
you can basically, well, I think if you're 25, you can basically
date anyone from 18 to like 50. Yeah, because I feel like 20
once your frontal lobe is kind of developed, it's kind of over.
So it doesn't matter. Like it's not a big deal, but I
think like yeah, 8 if you were, it's, I feel like it's the same
thing with like almost friendships too, where if I feel
like though I think the cool thing about friendships is I,
I'm willing to be friends with, you know, if I met like a really
cool girl in my study group in school and she was like 20 years
old, I would still be friends with her even though she's so
young. But I think like again, it's
like 20 and 28 is a lot different than 25.
And what would it be 303234? 30. 737 yeah, I feel like that's
a little bit more like, oh, OK, whatever, you know what I mean?
I see what you mean. Yeah, but would you, would you
be friends with like a 40 year old woman?
I would be, yeah, it depends on, it also depends on if she's like
what kind of 40? Because you know how there are
some people that once they get to a certain age, they think
they're old and then they kind of just let themselves, they're
like, oh, well, I'm old, so I can't do this.
Like they give themselves rules. Yeah, that's true.
And then there are 40 year olds that are like, I still, I'm
going to do whatever I want. Like just, you know, age doesn't
define me. And I could be friends with
someone like that. But if there are some people
like I'm 40, I can't go out. I can't do this.
I can't do that. And they just give themselves
all these imaginary rules because they think that once
you're 40 years older, once you're a certain age, you have
to stop doing things that you did when you were younger.
And I don't think that's true. Yeah, I don't think yeah.
I mean, if you're living up to like 104, you can't stop
partying. Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, it has to be at least like 60, but then you
still have like 40 years without partying.
Exactly. I can't imagine.
Yeah, 40 years without partying. That's crazy.
Maybe maybe stop when you're like 70?
Yeah, right. And even then, it's like one day
a week, I'll still be out catching me out.
I'll be drinking. And there will be like day
parties in New York. So you can literally go to,
honestly, you can still be like 110 and still go to like a day
party that starts like 6:00 AM. There are parties like.
That exactly. Yeah, exactly.
I feel like it's such a, I don't know, it's even even at 28,
there are so many people that like they've said to me, like so
many friends of mine, they're like, I'm old.
If the function doesn't start by 7, I'm just going to be in bed.
And I'm like, I cannot relate to that.
The like the party doesn't start by 7.
Like the party has to start by 7 or the event has to start by 7
or it's going to be too late for me because I'm old now and it's
like 20. 8/20. 8 is not old, no. You're missing out on things
because you think that 28 is old.
And like, you have, so you have to do.
And. But again, it's like, it's fine
if you don't like to party, but don't give yourself all these
fake restrictions because you think you have to.
Yeah. Because you've reached a certain
age. Yeah.
Well I think you're doing pretty well on doing things you want to
do instead of what society tells you to do.
Thank you. Feels like it shouldn't be key
to do up. It's just, I always get nervous,
especially like with, you know, family and stuff.
And there's like, there's just always the expectation of like
where other people are compared to me.
And then where I grew up, I grew up in like a small Pennsylvania
town. So it's, it's different.
The culture there of, you know, you get married at a really
young age and you have kids young.
And I, so many people I know like own property now and they
have houses and it's, that's not, I'm not even close to any
of that. Yeah, but you also live in New
York City. Like if you want to settle down
and do that, you wouldn't be in New York.
City, exactly. That's true.
Yeah, it's not. It's not that bad.
You're doing well. You're doing great.
Thank you. Thank you.
You too. Thank you.
Oh my God, that makes you feel good.
Wait, what was I going to say? Oh yeah, about the like I was
just doing the calculation today.
Like if you go to bed an hour later every day, you will have 7
hours every week, seven more hours than other people.
Oh my God. That's that's basically an
entire work day. Yeah.
And then you have like, I don't know, four more days every month
than. Other people.
I'm gonna start doing that. That's what I already don't.
I hate sleeping. I hate it.
Oh my God, if you like this podcast, not for you.
It's literally in bed. I love to sit in bed and go on
my phone or watch movies or do whatever, but if I could take
like a pill where I just like stayed up and did whatever and I
didn't ever sleep, I would. I would take the pill right?
Away I'm I'm sure there are pills like that.
They're they're, yeah. It's not what people take.
Not gonna sleep. It's like party.
Somewhere. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, if there was 1
and I can do it and not die. Yeah, that's true.
That's from. Long term.
Effects, you have to put that as a as a prerequisite, yeah.
If there was like a healthy 1 where I would feel like I slept
and I just didn't sleep, I would do that because I, I just hate
having to like, I hate having to be like, now I'm gonna close my
eyes and go to sleep. I'm not good at that.
You're not good at going to sleep.
I'm just not good at going to sleep.
You're not good at, you're not. You're not having good sleep.
It's not even that I it's I just don't like the action.
I'm going to sleep. That's.
The first time I've ever heard of.
That one I don't like the action of like taking my contacts out
and then closing my eyes. That's like literally my
favorite action. What are you talking about?
I've been waiting for that. Like I'm going to do that right
after we finish the podcast. You're welcome to join.
This is a really comfortable. Yeah, we can fit 2.
People. Well, well, I guess that it'll
be easier for you to not to sleep less.
I don't know if people should sleep less.
I feel like I'm like like, like kind of like this is kind of
becoming like a cult like like people should be sleeping less
because then they get more things, more things done.
I feel like that's like it's capitalism if.
You deprive yourself of sleep. Only one hour you get to work.
More. Or party more.
That's true.
Yeah. And I think there are ways to
get around that. And you can, you know, always
sleep when you're dead. You exactly, exactly.
And then the sleep debt will eventually catch up, which is,
you know, you have you heard of Sleep Dead?
Sleep dead. Maybe it's like when you
haven't. If you haven't slept well in a
certain amount of days or weeks, your body will just.
No matter even if you set an alarm or something, your body
will just force you to sleep for however long there was.
I saw a video of a girl who had to be, she was freaking out and
she was like it's 5:00 AM and I sat down at 3:00 PM to take like
a 2 hour nap because I had to go to work at six and I slept
through all my alarms and now it's 5:00 in the morning.
She met like she sat down at 3:00 PM to take like a 2 hour
nap and she slept from until five in the next day and she was
freaking out and everybody was like it's sleep.
It means you haven't been sleeping and like your body just
forces you to sleep throughout whatever.
Well, I haven't done that. I feel like I, I, I can still
get up. I feel like I don't have a lot
of sleep debt. I still I, well, like I said,
it's one of my favorite activity to do so I, I, I make sure to
have time to do that, but sometimes I feel like I spend
too much time sleeping and. I try not to just because I just
I don't. My brother will sleep till like
4:00 PM. Wow.
From 1:00 to 4:00 PM. It depends.
He's like a really big video game player, so he'll he'll
play. He's been getting better
recently. He's been waking up at normal
people time. But there was a, there was a
moment where a few years where he would wake up at like 2:00
PM, three PM, 4:00 PM, and then he would stay up until like 5 in
the morning. Oh my God.
Yeah, yeah, He was not turned off for a second.
I. Don't know if that's a good
schedule. No, it's even he was like I this
is horrible. I don't know how to break out of
this. Well, I think, well, whenever I
I used to have like a really bad sleeping schedule when I was
like in school at like because I stay up to do homework and then
Oh my God, that just happened. Well, we'll fix this for next
time. For right now, I'm just gonna
hold. It I jinxed it, I jinxed it.
I said. I said it's better that it
happened before the podcast than on the podcast.
It's. OK, I think this is fine.
This is cool. Wait, how do I get this off?
You know what? This is fine.
I think it's fine. It's fine.
Don't freak out, OK?
It's like Wendy Williams show. I like it.
She never held a microphone. Never ignore me.
No, it's not. It's not like Wendy Williams at.
All. Yeah, next time we should.
Yeah, OK. These are very cheap like that's
why. I think they're cute though.
I love this shade of pink right here.
Thank you. I I couldn't.
Well there's only one shade of pink in each like item I get, so
I don't really have a choice anyway.
Where was I? What was I talking about before
the microphone set? Sleep.
You talking about sleep? Sleep.
Sleep maybe? I'm in school, you said in
school. Oh right.
I think right now it's better. I can adjust my sleep schedule
very easily because if I go to a party that ends at like 4:00 AM,
I'll definitely go to sleep. And then I feel like that's
what's going to help me get back to my sleeping schedule.
You know what? Yeah.
Like, yeah. Because if I go to bed at 4:00.
There have been living in New York, my sleep schedule has
gotten worse, but it's my own fault because I will go out and
like, there have been times where I've gone out and I've
partied and I just lost track of time and then the sun's coming
up. Oh yeah, that's the best
parties. Wait this.
Is the most fun. What happened?
Wait, it says like my camera has gotten too hot that it that it's
soft? To work OK.
Yeah, I I have that problem sometime too, you know, too.
Just too hot to work. I don't know.
Are these two working OK? I don't know what to do.
This has never happened before. It's me.
It's I am the jinx of. No, it's because this is your
camera. It's like you're too hot.
Like it? It kind of.
Burned the camera too hot, Too hot to.
Work. Oh my God.
Wait, I guess we can. I mean, we only have like, I
don't know, 10 minutes. We can like wrap up.
I don't have to fill up all the time because I don't want to.
I don't want your angle to not have image for that long.
Yeah, well, we're what we're talking about.
Oh, like partying? Partying till late.
Yeah. Have you been partying till
late? Not OK, so not recently.
What did you do for Halloween? I I went with my boyfriend and a
few of our friends. We just went to the Harry Lemon
and then we went to Bowl Mccabes.
Oh wait, what did you dress up as?
We were John Travolta and Samuel L Jackson from Pulp Fiction.
But I everybody thought I was Steve Harvey.
So it kind of fucked. The costume everyone kept.
They were like, they all knew what my boyfriend was.
They would be like, oh, Vincent. And then they would see me and
they'd like Steve Harvey. I guess.
I guess that would. That's so funny.
Oh my God. I Yeah.
What did, what did I? I?
I was just like a clown for the whole weekend.
I wasn't like do anything else. Oh yeah, Didn't you go to the
Piyali? Because my friend Piyali said
she saw you at the. I forget what it's called,
something the. City of God, Yes, yes, I saw
her. But I think when I saw her,
she's pretty fucked up. I was pretty fucked up.
It was, it was what was needed. I was so Saul.
Do you know the comedian Tina Fremall?
Yes, you saw her. Yes, a city of gauze.
That's crazy, I know. And I went up to talk to her,
but I was at having like my clown makeup and I was fucked
up. And I feel like I, I, I totally
scared her. Yeah.
And I feel like I was talking so fast and I didn't let her talk
at all and I felt so bad. But I don't know how to fix
that. I don't know.
Like there's. There's no way.
Have her on the pod. Gosh, she'll come through this
will this podcast will blow up and then she'll be here.
Yeah, I hope so. And then I can formally
apologize to her. Do you have any like celebrity
stories? No, I wish.
It's so funny because Oh my God, I I ran into Kieran.
Kieran, Kieran Culkin at the grocery store the other day, but
I didn't say anything to him and I can't think of anything I used
to work at. I used to work at Equinox and
there would be. Were you a trainer?
I was, so I was going to be a trainer and then it never
happened, but I was at front, I started at front desk and I was
going to move to training and it just never happened.
But I used to work at Equinox and there were a lot of
celebrities that like not like big a list celebrities, but
pretty well known actors. Nothing crazy happened because I
feel like, I feel like with Equinox, everyone has, you know,
is kind of known or they make enough money that they kind of
run in the same circles. So no one's going into Equinox
freaking out over Yeah A. Celebrity.
OK, I would now. Now I'm like, maybe I should go.
Maybe I should like hang out around the equinox sometime.
I saw Hassam Minhaj right downstairs in my apartment.
No way. Yes, I know it was.
That's crazy. Did you say something to?
Him, I I was like, I've never looked worse.
Of course, that's like the day I've met Hassam Minhaj and I saw
him. I, I wasn't sure because he was
like wearing like a, a jacket and like big sunglasses.
And I was like, and I forgot his name.
And I was like, Sir, are you a comedian?
And he's like, yes. And then like we shook hands and
he was like, nice to meet you and whatever.
And I was like, I wish I said I'm a comedian too and whatever,
but I forgot. And I was like, I was just so
starstruck. And I was like, Oh my gosh.
I looked so bad. I don't want to know.
I don't want him to Remember Me. But hopefully the pot gets
bigger and I can like formally apologize.
There's so many people I need to formally apologize like
celebrities. I have this problem that I drunk
test text celebrities I. Oh like on like on their like
profile? Yes, like IDM.
Them on Instagram, you know people, some people when they
get drunk, they text their ex. I just text celebrities.
Wait, who was the last celebrity that you texted?
Probably this DJ, it was like it's bad, it's bad I don't know
I I feel like when I get famous, I'm going to have to like I
already have like karma like I already have they're.
All coming. There's like this one time last
time I, this DJ that I last texted, it was like he, he had
the new song and it was like I couldn't find the lyrics.
And the last, the last line of the song was bitch, I'm not a
couch. And I was like, what, what is
what is that me? And like we're like me and my
friends. We were like thinking about the
whole weekend and we, we should have checked their YouTube
because their YouTube has like subtitles and there's the
lyrics, but we couldn't find the lyrics anywhere.
And we're thinking what it what is it me?
And then I posted a Instagram and I tagged DJ and DDJ liked my
my story and like I was like, well that's a sign that now I
can text him. Hey, what does this mean now
that we're friends? Explain.
I feel like I just like, I think I feel like I I moved like in
the friendship. I moved too fast with the with
the celebrities. But then he just read it and he
didn't reply like and and then I found out it meant there's like
a line before that. I mean it said don't get
comfortable with me, bitch. I'm not a couch.
Oh OK, well that makes sense. Why would he not just write that
right? But I mean, I was thinking,
well, if he wrote that, then he'll say bitch.
Well, he'll say like, don't get comfortable with me.
Yeah, but that. Sounds like he's being passive
Passive. That makes sense.
OK, That makes sense. Yeah.
I don't even. I don't follow.
There were I don't message celebrities.
I don't. There were.
I wait. Most people.
Don't. I don't even follow.
There was like any celebrities, like even in high school, if I
had a crush on an actor or a singer, I wouldn't even follow
him on Instagram. You wouldn't.
No, I would not because I was playing hard to get.
So I'd be like, he's good. When I meet him, he'll be like,
he'll fall in love with me and I'll just be like, who are you?
And then he'll look on Instagram and be like, she's not following
me. She is correct.
She's not lying. Yes, she has no idea who I am.
And but who I am would be like Harry Styles.
Like yeah, everyone knows what Harry Styles is.
And I would like, I'm I'm going to meet Harry Styles.
I'm like, I don't know who you are.
Never seen you before in my life.
You get to do that someday, OK? Yeah.
Wait, I yeah, I don't know what I feel like.
I want to say something. I forgot.
I completely forgot. I think.
Wait, I think there's one time. Like I saw Steve Aoki, who's
like a celebrity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know him.
But I've never heard of him and I went to get a picture with him
afterwards because like my friend had, it's like a party
plug. But anyways, yeah, so I guess it
does happen. There will be people who.
Don't. Yeah.
And you're just like, well, yeah, I don't care.
Who cares? I want to do that to a rude
celebrity, like humble, a celebrity that's been known to
be like a Dick to people. I want to be able to humble
them. Yeah, like who?
Like I've heard Chevy Chase is not a nice guy.
I don't know. Yeah, but what if you meet them
in person? They're actually nice and you
can't do that. Then I can't.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
If I meet them in person and they're nice, then it will be a
pleasant surprise. If I meet them and they're still
a Dick, I'll have things prepared.
Yes, that's good. That's a good strategy.
Yeah, too bad Jacob Lordy doesn't have an Instagram or I
would have he. Doesn't have an Instagram.
No. My gosh, I'm so surprised.
Actually, no, I'm not. That seems really that seems on
brand for him to not have it social media.
Yeah, I don't know. Well, you know who I'll be?
DMA if he has an Instagram. Well, I hope I make it big.
We hope we both make it big. We'll both make it big and then
people will be be DM ING us. Oh yes, exactly.
And we can be the one. That and we can answer them.
Exactly. Well, I love this.
Yeah, I guess we can circle back and then we can wrap up.
OK. So do you feel better about, is
this helpful? I don't, I don't think.
It's really, it's really helpful.
So I'm not just talking, just saying things out loud is
helpful. And it's nice because I feel
like we're both in a similar situation where we're working
and we're like trying to just live independently and achieve
like goals. So it's nice to just be around
like minded people. Yeah, yeah, I love that.
So you feel like you're, I feel like you're not doing what
society is telling you. I feel like you're doing what
you want to do. I feel like you are too, and I
think we're both crushing it and we're both, we're both going to
see the payout of it. Hell yeah.
Yeah, we will. And it will be just just it'll
be Sue. I trust in timing of the
universe. I also trust in timing and
people will be and if you message us on Instagram, I will
answer back or I'll answer. Right now I only have 1500
followers. I will hack Haley's Instagram in
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Give her a follow and also the show and also me.