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Yeah, you are tall. 
Yeah. 

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Can I say that? 
Yeah, yeah, it's OK for you to 

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say. 
It's not something just we can 

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say. 
You can say it. 

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How tall are you? 
I'm 6 feet. 

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We measured like a couple weeks 
ago, 'cause I was like, I, I 

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don't think that I'm 6 feet. 
Well, no, I didn't think I, I 

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was like, I think that I'm 510 
1/2 was kind of where I was at. 

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And every time I used to tell 
guys that they would get so 

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weird about it. 
Like they would be like, no, no,

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no, 'cause I'm, I'm like 5/8, so
you must be like 6-4. 

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And I was like, I don't think 
so, buddy. 

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I really don't think so. 
But so we measured like a couple

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weeks ago. 
Not that it like matters 

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anymore, but yeah I I'm 6 feet 
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Wow, OK, so whenever I go on a 
like a like a date with a guy, I

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can I can bring you. 
So you're like the perfect. 

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I'll all show up and then we can
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then you can decide whether he 
is the height. 

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He says yes. 
It's my thought is and this is 

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not, this isn't a new take. 
If a guy says he's 58, he's 

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probably 5-6. 
If a guy says he's 6 feet tall, 

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he's 510. 
And if a guy says a height over 

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six, if a guy says he's 61, he's
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he's probably 6-2. 
That's when you start. 

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That's like the measure of 
accuracy. 

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I would say once you hit 62, 
they stop lying. 

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That's and if they're lying, 
it's 'cause they genuinely don't

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know, like they haven't thought 
about it. 

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That's my take. 
That's. 

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Actually very accurate and I 
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Hey, how are you? 
I'm good. 

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I'm supposed to ask the first 
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I'm sorry, my bad. 
It's OK. 

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OK. 
So Charlotte, yes, what's 

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keeping you up tonight? 
What's keeping me up is that not

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everybody is meant to be 
polyamorous, and I think that's 

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OK. 
I think it's OK. 

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It's OK for people to not. 
Be it's OK for people to not be 

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polyamorous. 
That's kind of what's keeping me

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up. 
Wait, I don't think it's OK. 

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You think everybody has to be 
Polly? 

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Wait, I think the norm should be
Polly and some people can come 

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out as not Polly. 
I OK, I mean, fair, but I think 

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there are a lot of people who 
are like, I'm me and my partner 

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are like, have you ever seen 
those Tik Toks where it's 

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somebody being like, here's my 
routine for when my partner goes

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on a date and it's like them 
just basically like trying to 

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calm themselves down from like 
having a panic attack in a 

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TikTok. 
And I'm like no. 

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What? 
What TikTok are you on? 

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But I feel like I saw one of 
those Tik Toks. 

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I feel like I see a lot of 
things that are like, here's how

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like, they're like jealousy and 
some really normal emotion even 

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when you're Polly. 
And here's how I calm myself 

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down. 
And I'm like, yeah, I think that

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being jealous is a normal 
emotion even when you're Polly. 

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But I also think that, like, if 
you're having a panic attack 

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every time your partner, like, 
goes on a date, then maybe you 

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just aren't Polly, right? 
Like, I just think that that's 

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OK. 
And I don't think it's like 

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unwoke for you to not be Polly. 
I think it's OK. 

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Like it's OK to be monogamous. 
It is. 

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I haven't, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I had some like I didn't, I 
didn't need crisis earlier about

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this too, because I was like, 
maybe I used to think that I was

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Polly because I feel like I can 
like multiple people at the same

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time for the same amount. 
But then and then recently I'm 

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realizing maybe it's because I 
don't like any of them. 

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You know what? 
And I think that's truly being 

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Polly is when you I really hate 
all of your bitch wives. 

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OK. 
And no, I think I think it's 

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like it's perfectly OK to be 
Polly. 

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And I think people are Polly. 
Obviously, like they exist, 

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they're real. 
But I also think, like, maybe if

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you have to convince yourself to
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way, then maybe it's worth 
thinking about why you're trying

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to make yourself be Polly. 
You know, that's a that's a 

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deeper question. 
Like I think some people like, 

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want to want their partner to 
see other people or like want. 

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Want to to be. 
They like want to want to be 

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Polly, OK, because it's like 
cooler or like people say it's 

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like decolonial. 
Like they're like, yeah, like 

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the chains of monogamy. 
Shake them off and you're free 

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and I'm I just think that I 
don't think it makes you Woker 

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to be. 
Polly, it doesn't. 

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No, I. 
Think it's like I've been doing 

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it. 
Wrong. 

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The whole time you were like, 
this is how I'm gonna do it. 

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That's how that's how I wanted 
to try and. 

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Move to New York Step 2. 
Be Polly. 

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No, this I woke. 
Yeah, this is a real 

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conversation that I had with 
someone that I was seeing. 

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I was like, I told them about 
like all these other people I'm 

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seeing and, and I'm like, I 
don't know if I like that 

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person. 
I don't know. 

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I don't like that person. 
And and they're like, maybe 

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you're not maybe you're not 
Polly. 

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It's OK, it'll. 
Be. 

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I mean, I also think maybe you 
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you know what I mean? 
No, but they're like, it's OK. 

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I know it's very hard for Gen. 
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a monogamous. 
I think it just feels like kind 

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of like not like old school. 
What is the word like not what 

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is. 
I feel like to be monogamous. 

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I think sometimes Gen. 
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thing to do is to be Polly. 
Yeah. 

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And I'm sort of like, well, is 
it cool if you're Polly and your

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partner is like going on dates 
and having a good time and 

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you're like, I hate this and 
praying yourself to sleep every 

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night. 
I'm like, is that cool to you? 

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Because that's not doesn't sound
cool to me. 

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Yeah. 
I don't know. 

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I don't know. 
I, I, I definitely know. 

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I know a really good friend of 
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There are a couple that's Polly 
and they definitely had like 

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they're much older than they had
like years of therapy for going 

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into Poly. 
And I feel like it's like such 

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like an important or like a very
hard thing to do. 

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Yeah, I feel like it's something
that just requires a lot of 

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thought and care. 
And I think some people like, 

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obviously that's something that 
can work and people do it all 

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the time. 
A lot of celebrities are like, 

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we have an open marriage. 
Or wait, I don't know any 

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celebrities. 
I don't. 

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Have to watch like Dolly Parton 
wasn't Dolly Parton was like, 

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rest in peace to her husband, 
but she was like, yeah, he does 

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his thing, I do mine. 
And we're just married. 

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I think a lot of that's not 
uncommon, right? 

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For people to be like, yeah, we 
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it's like we whatever, wait, 
which is I guess different from 

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being Poly, but like, I don't 
think it's it's like it 

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definitely can work. 
I think that some people who are

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like, I just think that it, I 
don't think that it needs to be 

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like the central struggle of 
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Like, I'm sort of like, if your 
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really, you're trying to get on 
board with being Polly, That 

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just feels like a recipe for 
resentment. 

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Right. 
You know, right, Yeah. 

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If you're you can't be like a 
being Polly, it's OK Being 

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monogamy, being monogamous is 
OK, but trying to like one 

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person is monogamous and the 
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OK. 
I mean, it's just, I think that 

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you shouldn't, I expect your 
partner to change on that front.

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Yeah. 
And I think you shouldn't try 

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and make yourself change on that
front for your partner because I

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feel like it would just be 
stressful. 

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But I don't. 
I mean, I don't know. 

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I've never been Polly. 
So maybe like these 

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conversations happen and it 
works out totally fine and 

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everybody's happy. 
And I'm sure that has happened. 

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Yeah, this is not a. 
It's just I'm like you. 

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You just don't. 
You don't have to be Polly. 

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Like I feel like also everybody 
is like I'm Polly. 

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Wait, if you have never been 
Polly, how seems like why do I 

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have such a strong. 
Opinion on it? 

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It's 'cause I think about it a 
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I have, I've been, I have a 
girlfriend and we've been dating

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for four years now. 
And like, thank you. 

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We had like talked not even like
about becoming Polly. 

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Yeah, but like had just talked 
about the concept of being 

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Polly. 
And I was like, yeah, I guess it

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like sounds fun in theory, but I
don't know if I'd really like 

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it. 
And she was like, what about it 

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sounds fun in theory. 
And I was like, I guess just 

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kind of like having a group of 
friends, like kind of the main 

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thing. 
And I was like, yeah. 

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So I think actually I'm I'm just
not Polly. 

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Why don't you just have a group 
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Friends, I do, I do now. 
I'm like, I think that I just 

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was like, like I think being 
Polly sounds fun when I think 

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about it in terms of like, what 
if me and all my friends lived 

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in a house together and we're 
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But I'm like, I actually don't 
want to sleep with any of my 

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friends. 
Like I'm kind of not. 

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I'm not really interested in 
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OK, I'm. 
Sort of like I think that the 

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the part of being Polly that 
makes the most sense is just 

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having a group of people you 
hang out with. 

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Yeah, but you can also not. 
Fuck them. 

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Yeah, that's kind of what that's
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What what is it called? 
Like queer platonic is what 

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people call it sometimes, which 
I that's just friends, but. 

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No, I heard, I heard a but I 
feel like, like, you know, 

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there's different type of types 
of Poly and people, some people 

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they just do their own thing. 
Some people like like, you know,

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like if if you're living with 
your friends, then they have to 

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interact with each other too. 
And do they like? 

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And so anything, yeah, where 
it's like, I have this partner 

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and I have this partner and they
don't really interact with each 

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other, but they know about each 
other. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And I've also met people who 

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said, oh, we do each other's 
things, but we have our rule is 

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that we don't talk to like we 
don't tell anyone like we don't,

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Oh my God, my English. 
We don't tell my partner. 

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Yeah, about the I think a lot of
people do that where they're 

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like, yeah, you can hook up with
other people, but I just don't 

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want to know about it. 
Yeah. 

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I don't know which one is like 
the better way like I. 

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Don't know if there's I mean 
like I think. 

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Transparency or no? 
I don't know. 

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I also like think that there's a
level of transparency that 

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people think is like good in 
dating now in a way that I'm 

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like, bring back euphemisms for 
I don't want to date you 

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anymore. 
Like, I think it's just. 

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Wait, people have been saying 
that? 

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No, no. 
No, I just think people are 

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like. 
Too direct. 

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Not even. 
It's like sometimes I'm like, if

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you had a bad date with someone 
and they're like, hey, like, had

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a great time, see you around. 
You don't need to be like, yeah,

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I had a great time too. 
Full transparency, You really 

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gave me the ick earlier when you
were wolfing down that 

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spaghetti. 
So I think this isn't going to 

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work. 
Like you can just be like, yeah,

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maybe and leave it. 
I don't think you need to be 

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that straight up about it. 
And I think a lot of people are 

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like, it's ethical to be Polly. 
Yeah, because I'm telling all my

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partners, yeah, that I'm 
sleeping with other people. 

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And I'm also like, if I were in 
a situation where I casually 

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dating someone, I don't know 
that I would super wanna know if

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they were like sleeping around. 
I'd be like, that's kind of your

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business if we're not exclusive.
Yeah, that's what I've been 

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thinking too. 
But about you're like being 

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transparent when you're like 
break up or in a situation ship,

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I feel like I'm the victim of 
I'm the I'm the problem that you

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were talking about. 
I feel like some people. 

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Want to know? 
But like I think that sometimes 

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people are like like after one 
date, I'm like you. 

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I don't think you really need 
like it's one thing if you've 

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been like in a situation ship 
for three months and you're 

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like, I just want to be honest, 
whatever. 

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But after one date, I'm like, 
you can just be like, I had a 

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good time and that's a lie. 
Like that's OK, I think. 

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Yeah, I just. 
Don't want you just don't want 

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unsolicited advice. 
But sometimes I, I do want to 

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tell them, like, if you like, I 
mean, yeah. 

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Do it What? 
Like what have you told them? 

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I don't I have no idea maybe 
like just something like the the

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ick or I have the urge to tell 
them but I didn't tell them but 

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I feel like. 
What would what would you have 

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said if you could go back? 
If I could go back, maybe I'll 

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tell like my my ex to like, I 
don't know. 

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There's there are things that he
should have done better for his 

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future girlfriends. 
I feel like that is that makes 

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sense to me. 
I feel like that's also 

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something I would want to know. 
I don't know if I were if the 

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shoe were on the other foot, I 
mean, maybe not if it's like a 

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really bad breakup, maybe I 
wouldn't. 

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But I also kind of feel like if 
they were like, Hey, you do this

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one thing that like makes it 
really difficult. 

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I mean, I guess I would hope 
that would come up during the 

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relationship, right, Right. 
But. 

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Yeah, no. 
Then they're like, why don't you

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tell me earlier so we don't have
to break? 

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Up. 
I mean, yeah, that's the tricky 

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part, right? 
I guess if it's like a 

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personality thing that you can't
change, then it's not, yeah. 

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I mean, I don't think it's 
useful if it's not something you

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can change. 
Like if they're like, I just 

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don't like your voice or 
something. 

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I'm like, why did you tell me 
that? 

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I. 
Think you're ugly? 

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Yeah. 
I just, I just thought you were 

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kind of ugly, unfortunately. 
Like what am I gonna do with 

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that? 
Right, Right. 

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Yeah. 
I sometimes I do think that that

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that's something that I don't 
think out loud, yeah. 

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I think that's OK. 
It's OK to think someone is 

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ugly. 
There's nothing wrong with being

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ugly. 
It's just, it's just what it is.

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Is there nothing wrong with 
being ugly? 

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Why do we have to get a surgery 
and go to a hospital? 

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Well, you don't have to. 
You can just be ugly, right? 

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Like, I mean, people do. 
You're there's societally we 

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place, we make it so that 
there's something bad about 

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being ugly, but you can just be 
ugly. 

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I know plenty of people do it 
all the time. 

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You can be ugly and happy. 
Yeah, I think that I wish I can 

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be ugly and happy, but now I 
feel like I, you know, I feel 

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like it's like internalized 
misogyny and it's like, I wish I

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can. 
Like, you know, it's always a 

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constant. 
Like trying to look good. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And not even look good, but it's

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like, look better. 
Yeah. 

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It's like, if I'm taking so much
time into how good I look, why 

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aren't everybody else? 
Why is everybody, why am I 

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seeing you? 
And you're like ugly and. 

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Yeah, I mean, there is something
I feel like really upsetting 

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about putting a lot of effort 
into your appearance and going 

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out and seeing someone just be 
ugly. 

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I'm like, it's like the kind of 
thing where you're like, I could

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just, I guess I could just not, 
not try, but like, yeah, it 

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feels like you have to. 
Yeah, you know, yeah. 

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Now on 1st dates I don't even 
like dress up anymore I feel 

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like. 
That's fine. 

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Yeah, that's my hot take. 
Don't dress up, Don't dress up. 

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No makeup, no hair on 1st dates.
Really. 

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Yes. 
OK, wait, tell me more. 

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No, it's just like, I feel like 
I've heard a lot of stories 

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where like they go on first date
and then like the other person 

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is fucked up and like it's like,
but you spend like an hour. 

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Yeah, Yeah, I think that makes 
sense. 

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And it's like sometimes even the
first date the person like 

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studio stood. 
You up? 

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Yes, Yeah. 
And it's like you already on 

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your way out after like 2 hours 
of. 

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Makeup and pay? 
Yeah, all dressed up and nowhere

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to go. 
Right. 

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Yeah. 
So just don't bother for the 

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first date. 
If the person is like good 

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enough, maybe you'll do it for 
the second date. 

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So I guess that's, that's kind 
of good advice, right? 

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I really don't put too much. 
I also feel like people put a 

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lot of pressure on 1st dates 
which is like hard not to do but

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not dressing up for it is kind 
of like this is my normal 

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whatever. 
Yeah, don't give it away all at 

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once. 
Yeah. 

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Always leave them wanting more, 
yeah. 

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Yes, I'm looking at you Vic. 
Oh my God, that's so funny. 

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I haven't really been on 1st 
dates. 

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What about? 
I guess you're not because 

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you've been together with. 
Your no. 

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OK, so this is actually my first
relationship. 

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So I've really only been on 1st 
dates and then no, I mean we've 

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gone on dates in the four years.
Sorry. 

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It's like, imagine I was like, 
yeah, we went out one time and 

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we were like, this is it? 
I guess. 

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I guess we're calling it here. 
We're we're making, yeah. 

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Yeah, I used to when I was back 
in my like straight days when I 

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was really trying very hard to 
be straight, I went on a lot of 

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first dates with men and that 
was shocking. 

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What was? 
How was it? 

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Just it's one of them. 
We talked about like conspiracy 

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theories the whole time. 
Oh my God. 

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And it was like right after 
Jeffrey Epstein died in prison. 

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Wow. 
And we talked about that for 

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like most of the date. 
And I was like, you know, I 

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don't know that this is 
actually. 

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And honestly, I may have brought
it up so that maybe that's not 

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me. 
Maybe. 

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He was thinking, he was thinking
about the same. 

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Thing, I guess I mean it like 
last, it was just like, it was a

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surprisingly detailed like 
conversation about like like 

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conspiracy theories and. 
What kind of conspiracy? 

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Like I think I was like the 
conversation I think was not 

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going great. 
So I was like OK, if you could 

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ask the US government to reveal 
any 3 secrets or something like 

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that, wow, what would it? 
Be it's a fun game and. 

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Well, what would your people? 
I don't, I don't know. 

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I well, let's see the let's see 
the Epstein list 1st and then. 

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Yeah, I agree. 
Let's get that out. 

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Yeah. 
And then we'll talk about what 

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other secrets I remember for a 
long time, mine was the moon 

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landing because I was like, I 
don't think that the United 

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States faked the moon landing. 
Yeah. 

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I don't think. 
So I think it would be so funny 

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if they did. 
That's like because it just the 

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circumstances were such that 
they were incentivized to fake 

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it. 
I don't think they did. 

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But it would be so funny if it 
came out like all this time 

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later that they were like, yeah,
we we faked that. 

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That was not fucking real. 
We did not go to the moon. 

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That's so funny because I've 
like, like I feel like growing 

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up going to the moon, seeing the
yeah, the American flag are like

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people on the moon. 
It's not. 

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It's just a I never thought 
people would question it, but. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, people would question 

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anything. 
Yeah, you can put anything out 

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there. 
That's true. 

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And and then third question 
would be, are birds actually 

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real? 
Yeah, probably. 

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Yeah #1 even, yeah, I don't 
know. 

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I'm like, now that I'm thinking 
about it, I'm like, there aren't

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a ton of like I sort of, I'm at 
a place where I'm like, you know

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what, Maybe it's better to not 
know. 

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That's true. 
Ignorance is a bliss. 

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Bliss. 
Yes. 

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Yeah. 
But yeah, that was, I think that

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that wasn't the last first date 
that I went on before I met my 

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girlfriend, but it was one of 
them. 

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Wait, so I feel like it is a 
fun, It's a fun like ice 

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breaking game. 
Yeah, I mean it. 

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And now you know each other very
deeply. 

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Yeah. 
And was that the last date like 

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No, I mean like was did you have
a second date after that? 

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No, we did not have a second 
date, no. 

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Was it because of the 
conversation? 

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No, like the translation. 
I think I was like, well, I was,

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I'm like a lesbian and I was on 
a date with a man and I was 

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like, something didn't feel 
right there. 

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And so we didn't have a second 
date. 

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Wait, I want to know more about 
how did you like realize that 

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you like girls? 
Yeah, I that's such a good 

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question. 
I like kissed one girl in high 

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school and then was like, I'm 
not ready to be, I'm not ready 

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to be queer. 
And then was like, OK, we're 

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gonna, I'm gonna not do anything
about this for a long time. 

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And then like during college 
started like seeing men mostly 

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and like dating men. 
And then I went on a date. 

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Well, when I met my girlfriend, 
I was like, you're so 

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interesting to me in a way that 
I can't describe. 

403
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And then later I was like, oh, 
that's what having a crush feels

404
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like. 
You're not supposed to like 

405
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manually select which man that 
you like, think is OK. 

406
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You kind of just like meet 
someone and you're like, wait, 

407
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what I like. 
Really before before you even 

408
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getting to know them. 
Yeah, I used to like manually 

409
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pick. 
Like have you seen sometimes the

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I see Tik Toks that are like 
people being like, these are the

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types of crushes you have when 
you're like a lesbian and in 

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middle school and it's like, you
know, super hot John Cena and 

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shit like that where you're 
like, what? 

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I don't know. 
Wait, they say if you're a 

415
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lesbian and you you would have a
crush on John Cena? 

416
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No, not always. 
But it's like, I think that when

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you're a little gay girl, you're
like picking boys arbitrarily to

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have a crush on. 
Yeah, I see. 

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So I was like, I think I'm gonna
have a crush on Eric. 

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And then I would just be like, 
I'm obsessed with Eric, and I 

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love Eric. 
And I was actually like, I did 

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not know that man at all. 
Like I was like, I don't know 

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you. 
I don't care about you. 

424
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,360
Yeah. 
It was just like I wanted to 

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have a crush since I picked a 
guy. 

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It's funny. 
Like, but I like, didn't realize

427
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that that wasn't what everybody 
else was doing. 

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Interesting, I did not now I 
have to do some like 

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introspection about like how now
I'm thinking who are who are my 

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crushes. 
I definitely didn't like a lot 

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of the male. 
Like I feel like I had 

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definitely more like celebrity 
crush it not celebrity like the 

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celebrities I like are all women
and I never like and you know, 

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people are obsessing over, I 
don't know, like all the 

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superhero superstars and or like
the K pop idols, but I'm just 

436
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like, I don't feel. 
I don't yeah, they're just guys.

437
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I don't they're just guys. 
Yeah, they're just they're guys,

438
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but yeah. 
And they're like all the Divas 

439
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out there, putting their work, 
doing their dances and like. 

440
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That I think that male 
celebrities also can get away 

441
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with giving a lot less. 
Right, right. 

442
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In some cases, yeah, Like I 
think, yeah, you have to. 

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I mean, we were talking about 
you have to put in you like feel

444
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a lot of pressure to put in a 
lot of maintenance as like a 

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woman to like really give, like 
give it all, I guess. 

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00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,040
I don't know. 
No, it's like literally like I 

447
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,080
remember the weekend concert was
the same around the same time as

448
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,800
like a the Katy Perry concert 
and we went to see the at the 

449
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,600
weekend and he didn't even 
change. 

450
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,560
He's like the whole the one 
outfit for the whole show. 

451
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,680
The whole show he's like in like
a sweatpant with. 

452
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,400
Sweatpants and like not even 
sweatpants. 

453
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,480
It's like a Cape because he it's
like there's not. 

454
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,560
That's so. 
Funny, right? 

455
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,160
And then, like, sometimes he 
disappears or take a break from 

456
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,560
the stage. 
You would think that he comes 

457
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,600
out with another outfit. 
Yeah, you. 

458
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,480
Would think like maybe like 
chain shirt or like, I don't 

459
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960
know, like put on a hat. 
Right, the only like outfit 

460
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,120
change was that he took the mask
off. 

461
00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,840
I feel like it's like, I don't 
know. 

462
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,240
There's also like I'm trying to 
think of a male artist who does 

463
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,000
a lot of outfit changes. 
I don't know. 

464
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,600
I don't know Harry Styles. 
Or does he, does he do outfit 

465
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,000
changes or does he just does he 
just kind of like pull up? 

466
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,000
Does. 
I don't know. 

467
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,280
I don't. 
I've never watch him. 

468
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,120
I don't. 
Me neither. 

469
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,240
I've never. 
Seen him Vincent. 

470
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,160
Boom. 
Yeah. 

471
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,320
I mean, Benson Boone. 
Do we think Benson Boone? 

472
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,000
Actually, we won't speculate. 
Well, we won't speculate. 

473
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,800
I'm not. 
I'm not answering that. 

474
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,320
Benson Boone is Benson Boone, 
and I, I hope that he has a 

475
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,840
beautiful journey wherever it 
ends up, wherever it ends. 

476
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,960
Right, I'm just thinking about 
his like high waisted pants. 

477
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,080
All the time. 
I love high waisted pants. 

478
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,280
Like I love wearing them. 
I when I look at him and they're

479
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,080
high waisted, I'm like, I would 
wear that right? 

480
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,440
Yeah, yeah. 
And reminds me, maybe Elvis did 

481
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,720
a lot of off food change cuz or 
Michael Jackson. 

482
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,080
I was thinking about that, but I
didn't want to sound stupid if 

483
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,120
it was wrong. 
Like if people were like, no, 

484
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,280
you idiot, like Michael Jackson 
only ever wore one outfit for. 

485
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,120
I mean, I don't think people are
going to do that, but yeah. 

486
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,640
I don't know, I think he 
definitely had different outfits

487
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,920
for sure. 
Yeah, for sure. 

488
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,440
Yeah. 
How do we get on this? 

489
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,840
What are we talking about? 
We were talking about what was 

490
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,160
your what was your Polly? 
Polly People and. 

491
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,560
Wait, no, after that we were 
talking about dating men right 

492
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,320
and having manually selecting 
your crushes exactly right. 

493
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,240
Wait. 
Yeah. 

494
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,240
OK so then I met my girlfriend 
who's non binary but we met can.

495
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,960
You say? 
Can I say girlfriend? 

496
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560
Yeah, yeah, we talked about it. 
We had like a talk about it. 

497
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,600
OK, OK. 
Because I also am like, I don't 

498
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,760
know that I would 100% be like 
I'm hashtag girl, hashtag lady, 

499
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,440
hashtag woman boss or whatever. 
Yeah. 

500
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,120
But I'm I don't when when I say 
partner, like it always just 

501
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:05,720
feels like we work at a law 
firm. 

502
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,200
I would rather just be her 
girlfriend. 

503
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,800
The partner does. 
Yeah, sometimes. 

504
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,160
My my my partner, my ex referred
me to as a partner. 

505
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,640
Yeah, I think it just, I don't 
like it. 

506
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,800
I just don't like it. 
Yeah, it feels like we're in a 

507
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,480
business. 
Project. 

508
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,640
I know. 
I feel like we're both wearing 

509
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,160
suits and shaking hands and the 
briefcase. 

510
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,480
Okay wait what do you think 
about the partner Cuz I feel 

511
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,720
like people have different 
opinions about partner other 

512
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,760
than it feels business like 
people say. 

513
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,080
So if you are a straight couple 
and you refer to each other as 

514
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,680
partner, it's like you're 
protecting the non heterosexual 

515
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,240
people from. 
Like having to disclose if you 

516
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840
like normalize it, Yeah. 
But then I think some people. 

517
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,560
There's people also saying like 
if you say if you're a straight 

518
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,920
couple and you're saying you're 
partners and it seems like 

519
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000
you're trying to be cool and 
like not disclose like trying to

520
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000
be. 
Yeah, I think it started out 

521
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520
that people were like, it 
normalizes it that you don't 

522
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,920
have to disclose like what 
gender your partner is. 

523
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:05,840
And I think now it's more people
are like, am I, am I queerer? 

524
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Am I not like you'll never know 
which I'm like, I guess that's 

525
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,520
your right. 
But I think when I hear straight

526
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,040
couples being like my partner, 
I'm always like, OK, like, 

527
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,160
that's fine. 
It's like it's your 

528
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,600
relationship. 
You do what you want. 

529
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,440
But I'm always a little bit 
like, all right, OK, maybe. 

530
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,600
Thank you. 
Yeah, it feels like they just 

531
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
don't love each other enough to.
That's how the partners. 

532
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,040
I don't know that I would say 
that, but I just am like, it's a

533
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,640
little, I get that like 
girlfriend boyfriend sounds a 

534
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,560
little middle school, but like I
am also like, well, I mean, you 

535
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,520
can say, I mean, obviously the 
issue with girlfriend boyfriend 

536
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,840
is that there's no like gender 
neutral term that. 

537
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,960
Is all weird. 
All of the terms are like my 

538
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,920
they friend and I'm like that's 
worse, that's worse, that's so 

539
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,120
much worse. 
My they friend, my they friend, 

540
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,000
my lover. 
I'm like, no, I we can just be. 

541
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,440
You could be partners. 
The person I'm dating. 

542
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,120
Right. 
The person. 

543
00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:59,640
Yeah, yeah. 
Or just name. 

544
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,720
Yeah, this person we're dating 
like, yeah, I think. 

545
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,600
But yeah, I what was I saying? 
Oh, when I met my girlfriend, I 

546
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,560
was like, oh, you're so I keep 
forgetting what I was saying. 

547
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,880
But when I met my girlfriend, I 
was like, why are you so 

548
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760
interesting? 
And then I was like, I later was

549
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,440
like, oh, it's because I have a 
crush on you. 

550
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,760
And I was like, oh, And then I 
was thinking back to all of the 

551
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,800
times that I'd felt like that 
before. 

552
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:33,640
And I was like, OK, so those are
all about like, none of those 

553
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,160
were about men. 
Yeah. 

554
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,360
And like, thinking back to what 
I thought was a crush before, I 

555
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:42,920
was like, oh, IA lot of them. 
I was like, you know, what it 

556
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,400
actually was is that I thought 
you would make a good writing 

557
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,640
partner. 
Writing partner, that's what it 

558
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,720
is. 
We also, yeah. 

559
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,640
That's What Every Girl Wants is 
just a writing partner. 

560
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,200
And I was like, honestly, most 
of it was like, this is somebody

561
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,880
who I could have really funny 
bits with, like. 

562
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,040
That's the that's the men. 
You have the men that I was like

563
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,400
I, I am in love with you. 
It was actually like, I think 

564
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,320
that we could have some really 
good banter. 

565
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,520
Like we're, we're, we're gonna 
be very good scene partners. 

566
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720
We're gonna be incredible scene 
partners. 

567
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,640
And I was like, that's how you 
build a life, Yeah. 

568
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240
It's just like cuz I. 
Was like what is life if not 

569
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,080
like improv but like prolonged? 
Right, if you like, it's just 

570
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,760
like how we sometimes love men 
because or or not we some some 

571
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,720
people. 
Love not, not we. 

572
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,640
We as in. 
We as in not me. 

573
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,400
I know. 
I got it. 

574
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,000
I. 
Yeah, for their like, like 

575
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,680
purposes for that's not about 
love. 

576
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,880
Maybe they're like, I don't 
know, they can reach the top 

577
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,480
shelf or Yeah. 
Yeah, my girlfriend uses me to 

578
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,720
really reach the top shelf. 
Yeah. 

579
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,360
Yeah, you are tall. 
Yeah. 

580
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,440
Can I say that? 
Yeah, yeah, it's OK for you to 

581
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,200
say. 
It's not something just we can 

582
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,040
say. 
You can say it. 

583
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,800
How tall are you? 
I'm 6 feet. 

584
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,520
We measured like a couple weeks 
ago cuz I was like, I, I don't 

585
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,360
think that I'm 6 feet. 
Well, no, I didn't think I, I 

586
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,240
was like, I think that I'm 510 
1/2 was kind of where I was at. 

587
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,000
And every time I used to tell 
guys that they would get so 

588
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,760
weird about it. 
Like they would be like, no, no,

589
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,320
no, because I'm, I'm like 5/8, 
so you must be like 6-4. 

590
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840
And I was like, no, I don't 
think so, buddy. 

591
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800
I really don't think so. 
But so we measured like a couple

592
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,240
weeks ago. 
Not that it like matters 

593
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,400
anymore, but yeah I I'm 6 feet 
like. 

594
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,840
Wow, OK, so whenever I go on a 
like a like a date with a guy, I

595
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,520
can I can bring you. 
So you're like the perfect. 

596
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,920
I'll all show up and then we can
stand next to each other and 

597
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,720
then you can decide whether he 
is the height. 

598
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,520
He says yes. 
My thought is, and this is not, 

599
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,320
this isn't a new take. 
If a guy says he's 58, he's 

600
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,640
probably 5-6. 
If a guy says he's 6 feet tall, 

601
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,720
he's 510. 
And if a guy says a height over 

602
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,000
six. 
If a guy says he's 61, he's 6 

603
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,040
feet. 
And if he says he's 62, he's 

604
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,000
probably 62. 
That's when you start. 

605
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,720
That's like the measure of 
accuracy. 

606
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,840
I would say once you hit 62, 
they stop lying. 

607
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,920
That's and if they're lying it's
cuz they genuinely don't know 

608
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,040
like they haven't thought about 
it. 

609
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,440
That's my take. 
That's. 

610
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,360
Actually very accurate and I 
feel like my ex on his dating 

611
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,760
profile, he said 61 and he's 
actually 66P. 

612
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,000
Yeah. 
And which I'm like, that's fine.

613
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,720
I would lie. 
What what did I do? 

614
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,160
I can't you lie. 
I would lie. 

615
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,640
I mean, I would lie a little 
bit. 

616
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,760
I was like, I'll put 511 because
then they won't get intimidated.

617
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,880
Right, right. 
Because if you put 6 feet, but 

618
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,400
then I was like, no, I'll put 6 
feet. 

619
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,040
So they expect me to be tall. 
And they're not weird about it. 

620
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,520
They're not like you're much 
taller than 511. 

621
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,720
Because it was very, it's very 
like when you tell a man like 

622
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
now I kind of do it to rage bait
them a little. 

623
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,880
Like people are like, yeah, it's
so fun If they're like, you're 

624
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,040
so tall, how tall are you? 
I'll be like 5-9 and then 

625
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,840
they're like, no, no way. 
Because because I'm 59. 

626
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,680
I'm like, no, I was measured 
yesterday, man. 

627
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,200
You must be like, what, 55? 
It's so mad. 

628
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Can we like like plan on like a,
you know, like a video idea we. 

629
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Just go out. 
Yeah, We just go out. 

630
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,080
And I tell men that I'm 59 and 
watch them just kind of 

631
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,000
distraught. 
Yes. 

632
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,280
No. 
I think that's so fun. 

633
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,480
I love that. 
Yeah, I was gonna say something 

634
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,520
about, oh, I saw people say, 
well, cuz I'm from China, They 

635
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,440
don't, they use like metrics. 
Yeah, yeah. 

636
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,280
So like, you know, right now 
here like 6 feet, yeah, yeah, 6 

637
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,360
feet is like 183 centimeters, 
but it's more like 180 is like 

638
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,960
the threshold. 
Is like, like whether or not 

639
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,960
you're tall is 180 that makes 
sense. 180 Think about that. 

640
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,920
Yeah, 180 and six feet are like 
a similar. 

641
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,360
And people say there's nobody. 
No guy is actually gonna say 

642
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,400
that they're 180, because if 
they're actually 180, they're 

643
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,040
gonna say they're one. 83181. 
Yeah. 

644
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,680
And if they're like saying 180, 
that's because they're one. 78 

645
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,360
yeah 170. 
Yeah, just like nobody's 6 feet 

646
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,240
on dating apps. 
Nobody. 

647
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,560
I mean, yeah, no. 
If a guy says he's 6 feet on a 

648
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,280
dating app, it means he's 5-10, 
yeah. 

649
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,760
Or like 5-10. 11 maybe. 5-11 
maybe? 

650
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Yeah, depending on the shoes. 
Yeah, depending on the kicks, 

651
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,440
but. 
Yeah, or nobody's actually 511 

652
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,040
because they're if they're 
actually 511. 

653
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,040
They'll just say 6 feet, yeah. 
Yeah, it's all a guessing game. 

654
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,600
There's a lie, there's a lying 
epidemic in the hype community, 

655
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,200
but it is, yeah. 
It's all kind of a guessing 

656
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,600
game. 
But then once my girlfriend's 

657
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,360
like 5-5. 
So I was like, it doesn't you, 

658
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,040
you can't tell. 
I was like, but she'll she'll be

659
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,640
like, can you come be tall? 
And I go and I. 

660
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Take her beans down, whatever. 
That she needs. 

661
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,080
I can imagine you 2 look so cute
together. 

662
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Yeah, we are really cute. 
You're like a perfect like 

663
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,400
straight couples hire. 
Really, sometimes I worry that 

664
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,400
like in a straight cup, like if 
we are, if you put like a 

665
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,920
straight couple dynamic on to 
us, that I'm falling too much 

666
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,600
into the man role just in that. 
My sister plays volleyball and 

667
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,360
so I watch a lot of, I watch all
those games and there's a lot of

668
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,840
time that I spend watching the 
game and she's like cooking 

669
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,520
something behind me, which makes
me just feel like a piece of 

670
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,800
shit husband who's like not 
helping with the meal at all. 

671
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Sounds like why don't you? 
Why aren't you helping them with

672
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,120
the meal? 
Yeah, I mean a lot of times. 

673
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Here's what I'll say. 
Yeah, my girlfriend does not 

674
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,880
like for me to help her in the 
kitchen. 

675
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,760
That's exactly what a straight 
guy would. 

676
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,360
Say, I mean, no, I mean you got 
me. 

677
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Wait, you actually totally got 
me there. 

678
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,720
That's exactly what a straight 
guy would say. 

679
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880
And you know what? 
I have been called in. 

680
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,120
I will reflect and I'm listening
and I'm learning and I'm growing

681
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,360
from this experience. 
Yeah, no, I, I, I love that for 

682
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,560
you. 
Like I what? 

683
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,240
What would I do to be like the 
man in the relationship? 

684
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440
I'm trying to think of my most 
like girly trait in a 

685
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680
relationship now. 
Or like traditionally like 

686
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,840
stereotypically girly trait in a
relationship. 

687
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,040
What is it? 
Do you like? 

688
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,880
So what do you sew? 
No. 

689
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,400
She sews. 
Oh, no, I crochet. 

690
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,280
You crochet. 
OK. 

691
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,760
Yeah. 
I feel like if you take 

692
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,600
traditional gender roles, the 
girliest thing I do in the 

693
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,760
relationship is I'm the like, 
I'm the mushier one. 

694
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,160
Like I'm the one who's like I 
wrote you a poem and here it is.

695
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960
Or like I I. 
Feel like guys do that. 

696
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,080
You think so? 
Yeah, guys, guys write poems. 

697
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,600
What's something a girl could 
do? 

698
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,640
Well, girls can do anything. 
Yeah, but what's something? 

699
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040
What's the stereotype? 
I'm trying to think. 

700
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Yeah, but I feel like poems are 
always written. 

701
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,720
I've had, I've had three guys 
write me poems. 

702
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,240
It's it's getting old. 
Yeah. 

703
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,360
Wait, were any of them good? 
No, no, they're OK. 

704
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,400
They're OK. 
They're. 

705
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,320
Yeah, I wrote a poem for my 
girlfriend and I only really 

706
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,360
read it. 
I only really showed it to her, 

707
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,440
but she like actually writes 
poetry. 

708
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,040
So I was like, well, this is 
just this is like, you'll be 

709
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,880
like, this is cute, but it'll be
I'll be like this. 

710
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000
I was like, this is here It is, 
right? 

711
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,400
I was like, this is just this is
just something I. 

712
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Mean it's cute that's cute I. 
Mean it's cute, but it's like 

713
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920
she like does it like well, and 
I was like, here's a poem I 

714
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,200
wrote and it rhymes. 
Yeah, it's like you're you're 

715
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,360
singing to Michael Jackson. 
Yeah, yeah. 

716
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Or like, fucking like Kelly 
Clarkson. 

717
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,960
You're like, I wrote you a song.
She's like, oh, thanks. 

718
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Yeah, no, but it's OK. 
I mean it's the gesture helps. 

719
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080
Yeah, yeah. 
Wait, what's what's like a 

720
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400
traditionally masculine thing 
you do in relationships? 

721
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,480
Interesting. 
Yeah, that's a good question. 

722
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,120
What's masculine? 
I don't know. 

723
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,800
I think I'm sometimes the one 
that I don't know that that 

724
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:36,120
sends the text of you up. 
That's so funny. 

725
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,120
That's so funny. 
Right, that's the hence the 

726
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,640
title of the podcast. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

727
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,280
No, I see that now. 
That's so funny. 

728
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,760
Wait, I love that for you. 
That's girl boss behavior, 

729
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,720
right? 
Is what I would say. 

730
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,360
I wish I can like I was 
thinking, I wish I can have like

731
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880
my own like one bedroom 
apartment so I can like be like 

732
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,800
you up and then come back, come 
to my place. 

733
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Come over. 
Come over to my place. 

734
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,920
Yeah. 
No, that's the that's the dream.

735
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,600
Yeah, and don't sleep. 
Over and don't sleep over. 

736
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,920
You'd be like, I called you an 
Uber. 

737
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Like at the end. 
Yeah, like your Uber's 

738
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,360
downstairs. 
Oh my God, that's my dream, 

739
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,800
Yeah. 
Your dream is living like a 

740
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,840
bachelor. 
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's, I 

741
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,400
think that's beautiful. 
Women can be bachelors. 

742
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,400
I think you could be a wonderful
bachelor, right? 

743
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,880
Like a little bachelor pad. 
Yeah, we need some, I don't 

744
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,600
know, lesbian dating shows of 
the. 

745
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,040
The Bachelor Yeah, that would be
so messy. 

746
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,719
Actually, I read this book that 
was about 2 girls who go on like

747
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,120
a bachelor. 
They can't say the Bachelor 

748
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,239
because of copyright, but 
they're like, it's like the same

749
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,000
show. 
Yeah, but they go on that show 

750
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,639
and they fall in love with each 
other when they're like, 

751
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,600
supposed to be dating the main 
guy. 

752
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,600
I liked it. 
I. 

753
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,000
Liked the book It's. 
Called here for the wrong 

754
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,760
reasons. 
Well, they. 

755
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Were they? 
Were they were there for the 

756
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,679
wrong? 
Reasons I loved it today's other

757
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,880
what I love today's topic. 
I have one of my best friends. 

758
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480
They're like a lesbian couple 
and they were I just saw them. 

759
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,400
They were like, you should have 
more like queer people on there.

760
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:09,040
I want to hear about gay sex. 
I mean, that makes sense. 

761
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480
I feel like I talk about the gay
sex a lot on the podcast. 

762
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Yeah, I was listening to some of
the episodes in preparation. 

763
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,320
I was like, OK, this would be 
great. 

764
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,280
OK, OK. 
Which one did you listen to? 

765
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,000
I listened to like a little bit 
of a bunch of them just to get 

766
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,560
it like a feel for what what I 
was supposed to bring to the 

767
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,120
table. 
Yeah. 

768
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,840
No, you're doing great. 
Thanks. 

769
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,360
Yeah, really appreciate it. 
How are you? 

770
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,120
Thank. 
You so good to be here. 

771
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Thank you. 
Sometimes I have my bad days and

772
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,720
my good days. 
Sometimes if I'm doing the 

773
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:36,200
podcast on a cuz you were asking
if I wanted to do it on Sunday. 

774
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960
I'm like usually I go out on 
Saturday, so Sunday. 

775
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440
So Sunday is not the day. 
Yeah, Sunday my brain is not 

776
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,160
working. 
That makes sense. 

777
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:47,640
I don't really like as far as I 
feel like young, like people our

778
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,080
age who are like queer in New 
York. 

779
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:55,360
I would say that I am on the 
much like tamer side, like I 

780
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,480
don't. 
On the straighter side, I. 

781
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,920
Mean I would say like no, cuz I 
think straight people are going 

782
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,720
out. 
I'm just like not a huge partier

783
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,440
like I just don't like it right.
I just, I think that I, I like 

784
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,880
keep earplugs on me at all times
because sometimes the world is 

785
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,400
too loud. 
So I'm like, I don't really 

786
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,080
wanna be in a party. 
Wait earplugs for just like 

787
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,960
day-to-day New York walking. 
Yes, because sometimes, 

788
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,480
sometimes you're in the subway 
and it's just so loud and you're

789
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,240
like, and then you put in your 
earbuds and earphones and or 

790
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:27,880
your earplugs and then you're 
like, I'm happier now. 

791
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,840
Or like, sometimes I'll go to a 
show. 

792
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,400
Yeah. 
And the sound balance is like, 

793
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,000
really? 
Or they're obviously are trying 

794
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,080
to make it so like the back row 
can hear, but you're not sitting

795
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,360
in the back row and you're like,
well, I'm gonna die if I'm up 

796
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,680
here. 
Like I can feel this in my 

797
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,120
teeth. 
Well, I love that for you. 

798
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,840
Yeah, I love having earplugs, 
but like, yeah, I'm not. 

799
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,560
I'm not at the club. 
I'm not. 

800
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,000
I bring, I bring earplugs with 
me everywhere too, for different

801
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000
reasons. 
Cuz I don't. 

802
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,200
You don't. 
You never know when you were 

803
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,800
gonna go into an emergency 
clubbing situation. 

804
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,480
Yeah. 
I mean, I think that's smart. 

805
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,560
I think that's really smart. 
But yeah, I'm not a, I'm not 

806
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,280
like a partier. 
I'm not like. 

807
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,720
Partier. 
Yeah. 

808
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Are you a partier? 
You're like, you like to go out.

809
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,160
I go out sometimes. 
What's your favorite like? 

810
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,280
What's your ideal night when 
you're going out? 

811
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,000
Oh, I don't know, come back and 
be able to go to sleep. 

812
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,080
OK, yeah, sometimes I can't go 
to sleep. 

813
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,800
Do you just like, stay up all 
night? 

814
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,400
No, I try to go to sleep but I 
just end up massive and no. 

815
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,520
I mean, that'll put you to sleep
though. 

816
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,560
I don't know. 
Sometimes I just want to keep 

817
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,440
going, you know? 
That's fair, yeah. 

818
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,520
Maybe like that. 
Ohh, you. 

819
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200
But yeah, that's when I send the
text. 

820
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,920
The you up text, Yeah, that's 
that's a hazard of the yeah. 

821
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640
The fun thing about me and my 
girlfriend live like a 15 minute

822
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,200
walk away from each other now. 
So it's very, I don't really. 

823
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,520
I mean, I never really have to 
be like, are you up? 

824
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,160
Because I'm usually over there. 
Yeah. 

825
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,160
But if I ever were like, I want 
to see you in the middle of the 

826
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,960
night, I'd be like, but it's a 
quick little walk. 

827
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,720
Yeah, it's a it's come back. 
Come come over for a quickie. 

828
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,040
Yeah. 
Yeah, that's what guys would 

829
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,440
say. 
That's what, yeah, that's what a

830
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,240
guy would say. 
I don't really say. 

831
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:16,880
I wouldn't say. 
I wouldn't say that, probably. 

832
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,680
But yeah, would you ever move in
with her? 

833
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Yeah, we've talked about it. 
I think like we are, I would say

834
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,360
the opposite of a stereotypical 
couple in that I think we moved 

835
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,760
pretty slow or stereotypical 
lesbian couple. 

836
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160
I mean, in that we, we didn't 
like U-Haul at all. 

837
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,480
But I, I would, I we've talked 
about it a little. 

838
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,960
I think we're we're happy where 
we are. 

839
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,440
She like has her own apartment 
and I hang out there and she'll 

840
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,960
like come and stay with me. 
But it's nice, yeah. 

841
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Yeah, I don't. 
I feel like in New York it's 

842
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,320
like cheaper to move. 
In, yeah, I think a lot of 

843
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,280
people, but that gets you in 
like a lot of tricky situations.

844
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Yes, like a lot of people, the 
housing market is kind of 

845
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,400
responsible for a lot of bad 
relationships out there is my 

846
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,200
take is that if a lot of people 
could afford to live not with 

847
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,440
their partner, they would not be
in the relationship they're in. 

848
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,640
Yeah. 
And I think that's sad. 

849
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Who said that? 
That's like that. 

850
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,760
You're you're the whistleblower.
Yeah, I'm the whistleblower for 

851
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
the housing market. 
Yeah, and the relationship 

852
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,920
damage it's doing. 
Yeah, yeah. 

853
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,720
I feel like it definitely does a
lot of damage or like it 

854
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,120
definitely prolonged a lot of 
relationship that should have 

855
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,640
been that long. 
Yeah, I mean, I think also like,

856
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,240
I just think it's, I think it's 
just the housing market's fucked

857
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,800
for a lot of reasons. 
But yeah, I think a lot of 

858
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
people are like, well, we have 
to make this work because we 

859
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,440
live together. 
And I think that's like a really

860
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,720
hard situation. 
Yeah, yeah. 

861
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,640
Because you, like, neither one 
of you wants to be looking for 

862
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,240
housing and going through a 
breakup. 

863
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,600
And like, I'm sure sometimes 
it's like it stops people from 

864
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200
making like impulsive decisions,
like I want to end this because 

865
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,320
whatever and makes them like 
think through it more. 

866
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,400
But I think sometimes people 
are. 

867
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,160
This is really not right for me,
but I can't. 

868
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,840
It just makes you feel trapped. 
Yeah, that's how I feel about. 

869
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,600
That's why I can't be really 
practicing Poly because I can't.

870
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,840
I already have like 2 roommates.
I can't have more people in your

871
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,200
life. 
You can. 

872
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,600
Have more people involved in 
your living situation? 

873
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,600
Yeah, I think it's really, I 
also think one of my hot takes 

874
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,440
is that it is better to live 
with people that you are not. 

875
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,480
You are either such good friends
with and like have known since 

876
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,520
you were young or people that 
you don't really know at all but

877
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,000
get a good vibe from. 
That's been my take since. 

878
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,200
Victoria wants to live with me 
and and and we haven't known 

879
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,320
each other since we're we're 
childhood. 

880
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,440
Like we're, I think that's the 
kind of thing that can work. 

881
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,320
Like I feel like my best. 
We haven't, so it's not gonna 

882
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520
work, according to. 
You you haven't known each other

883
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,600
technically new. 
York because we just got here 

884
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,600
for. 
Like, OK, fair enough. 

885
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,320
OK, fair enough, yeah, she said.
We're New York babies cuz we're 

886
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,880
just got here. 
For yeah, because you guys got 

887
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,120
here at the same time. 
I don't know. 

888
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,680
I mean it obviously works 
outside of that. 

889
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,160
I think for me, I find it 
easiest to either be close 

890
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,440
enough with somebody that I can 
be like, hey, if you don't do 

891
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,680
your dishes, I'm gonna kill you.
And they'll be like heard and do

892
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,920
it. 
And they can be like, hey, 

893
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,440
you're pissing me off. 
And I'll be like, yeah, I'm sure

894
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,280
I am. 
And like, fix it or somebody 

895
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,120
that you are not friends. 
Like you don't have to worry 

896
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,520
about ruining your friendship or
like complicating your 

897
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,320
friendship by being like, hey, 
like we'll have a really hard 

898
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,800
conversation with you. 
And it's just like about 

899
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,760
laundry. 
Like I think it's just like it's

900
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,200
hard. 
I feel like to live with 

901
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520
somebody, right? 
And I think it's easier when 

902
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,720
it's not. 
There isn't like an existing 

903
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,960
relationship. 
You're adapting to living 

904
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,320
together. 
But I mean like I've been wrong 

905
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,680
before. 
It like works for some people. 

906
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,320
I think for me I'm just like, I 
like, like I'm met my roommates 

907
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880
from being roommates like. 
We went on the Internet and I 

908
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,280
was like and like to. 
Be fair, some of them have been 

909
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,960
really bad. 
That's true. 

910
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,720
I feel like it's a hit or miss. 
Yeah, I definitely had. 

911
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,720
But like fortune. 
When you have a really bad 

912
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,760
roommate that's not your friend,
you can be like, hey, you're 

913
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,800
being a really bad roommate 
right now and you don't have to 

914
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080
worry really as much about 
hurting their feelings. 

915
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,400
I don't know, I still worry. 
I mean you, I mean you probably 

916
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,760
will, but you like kind of 
don't. 

917
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,840
Like it's like if this person 
hates me that will be 

918
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,280
uncomfortable but like I'm not 
losing a relationship. 

919
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,200
That's true. 
Like I'm like, we don't hang 

920
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,680
out. 
We don't need to hang out. 

921
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600
I don't know, I'm still, I'm 
still too much of A people 

922
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,560
pleaser to. 
Not yeah. 

923
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,680
I mean, you don't want to hurt 
people's feelings in general. 

924
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,000
It just is like I think it's 
much easier to be like, hey, I 

925
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,440
have to say something difficult 
to you when you aren't like, 

926
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000
this is my friend and I just 
want the best for them cuz I 

927
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,480
want the best for my roommates 
too. 

928
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,640
And like a what was I gonna say?
I don't know. 

929
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,920
And I want the best for my 
roommates, but I'm not like, we 

930
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,080
were roommates before we are 
before we were friends. 

931
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,160
So I don't feel like in order to
preserve our friendship, I have 

932
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,320
to sacrifice our relationship as
roommates. 

933
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,480
You know what I mean? 
Yeah. 

934
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,320
Like when they're like, hey, can
you guys make sure that you're 

935
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,080
wiping down the counters after, 
like, every time you do dishes 

936
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,320
or like, every time you cook? 
I'm not like, you're being so 

937
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,680
mean to me right now. 
I'm like, yeah, well, we're 

938
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,760
roommates, so that's how that's 
gonna go. 

939
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,720
Yeah, you know. 
Yeah, I used to. 

940
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,040
Can I say this about my 
roommate? 

941
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,560
I think, yeah, I don't care 
anymore. 

942
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,960
Well, I do. 
No, I do. 

943
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,240
I don't give a shit this. 
Is like a previous roommate or 

944
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,680
yeah. 
And he would just like, be like,

945
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,760
I know. 
I wish he said it to my face. 

946
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,840
Yeah, I can be in my room and I 
can hear him. 

947
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,040
Like, fuck. 
Why is it? 

948
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Yeah. 
That's the kind of thing, but 

949
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,920
I'm like. 
Myself. 

950
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,280
Yeah, that's so frustrating. 
Yeah. 

951
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,080
And I'm like, do I, do I 
intervene or do I come out and 

952
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,200
say something or. 
Yeah. 

953
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,640
I also feel like in order to be 
a good roommate, you do need to 

954
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,560
be able to just be like, hey, 
this is what I. 

955
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Need from you in. 
Like some cases, like I'm like, 

956
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,720
if I'm bothering you don't sit 
on it and then like not tell me 

957
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,920
because like if you're like, 
hey, it really bugs me how you 

958
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,240
leak comes on the stove. 
That's an easy fix. 

959
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,880
Like I can just clean that up. 
But if you don't tell me, then 

960
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,360
I'm like, no one cares. 
And then now you're mad and I'm 

961
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,760
fine. 
And I think it has similarities 

962
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,000
with being in a Poly slash or or
a monogamous. 

963
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,400
With any relationship, yeah, you
do need to be able to. 

964
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,360
I think people also are really 
conflict is hard, like it's hard

965
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,560
for a lot. 
It's hard for everyone. 

966
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,960
I think like I think there 
aren't people who are like 

967
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,960
conflict is super easy for me 
because it's like kind of I 

968
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,600
guess maybe there are. 
I don't, yeah, I mean. 

969
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,680
I mean, there are people who are
really confrontational. 

970
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,440
Right. 
I don't like those people. 

971
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,440
Conflict is, I mean me, 
actually, you know what? 

972
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,200
I'll say a hot take. 
I kind of prefer somebody who 

973
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,560
is. 
Confrontational. 

974
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,440
Yeah. 
I mean like I think that it 

975
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,800
forces me to think about like, 
like it forces me to stand up 

976
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,960
for myself and be like, or to be
like, yeah, you're right, I 

977
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,760
fucked up, you know what I mean?
Like I would rather my friend be

978
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,560
like, hey, this thing you did 
really hurt my feelings and I 

979
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,040
want to talk about it then to 
like have them tiptoe around it 

980
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,640
for like 2 years and have it 
come out when like we're drunk 

981
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,800
or something like that. 
Like I'm like, I would always 

982
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,080
rather you just straight up be 
like, Hey, you hurt my feelings 

983
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,040
or like, Hey, this thing you 
does like you, this thing you do

984
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,000
like bugs me or whatever. 
I guess I don't like people when

985
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520
people are like mean or like 
aggressive, right, Right. 

986
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,840
But when people are like, not 
afraid to be like. 

987
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,760
Be direct, yeah. 
I think I appreciate being 

988
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,680
direct. 
My dad was very when he was he 

989
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,640
was telling me that when he was 
dating my mom, he was like, I 

990
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,760
don't do like the mind reading 
stuff. 

991
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,920
So like, if you're upset with 
me, you can, you should just 

992
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,120
tell me because I'm probably not
going to be able to like guess. 

993
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,760
OK. 
But you should just like, let me

994
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,000
know. 
And I was like, I think that's 

995
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,760
actually really. 
I think that's a mature move. 

996
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,600
I agree because I'm also like I 
struggle with the like there's a

997
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,200
certain amount of like 
consideration and care that you 

998
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,600
should absolutely give the 
people around you. 

999
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,400
And also sometimes people are 
thinking things about your 

1000
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,960
actions that you just like 
didn't think of. 

1001
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,400
And like, sometimes it's like 
you obviously wish that they had

1002
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,880
just like thought of that. 
Like I wish that people would 

1003
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,360
think of like would just know 
exactly how I would react to 

1004
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,600
things. 
But sometimes, like if they 

1005
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,520
don't know, you should tell 
them. 

1006
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,840
I think you should give them. 
You should make an effort. 

1007
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Right. 
To like, give people a chance to

1008
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,960
change. 
Yes, that's why I tell them that

1009
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,200
they the way they slurp their 
spaghetti, they. 

1010
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,000
Really. 
Give you the ick? 

1011
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,400
Yeah, that's exactly, that's 
exactly what you should do. 

1012
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,520
That's feedback. 
That's constructive criticism. 

1013
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,920
Right, so you should. 
Yeah, I mean, OK, I'll tell us 

1014
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,920
one more story about my 
girlfriend then I'm gonna leave 

1015
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,240
it cuz she's a very private 
person. 

1016
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:21,080
But she, one time I, we were 
packing to go on a trip together

1017
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,640
and I have this outlet extender 
thing. 

1018
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,280
Yeah that has like 6 outlets in 
it and it plugs into one outlet.

1019
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,480
And I was like, I got it out and
she was like, you can't bring 

1020
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,200
that. 
And I was like what? 

1021
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:35,840
And she was like, it sets a 
precedent. 

1022
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,360
I was. 
Like it sets a precedent. 

1023
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,440
She was, I was like, I mean, to 
be fair for her, for her part, 

1024
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,640
we were going to like her aunt 
and uncle's house. 

1025
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,800
So it wasn't like there were 
going to be no outlets. 

1026
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000
But I was like, what if there 
are no outlets there? 

1027
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,520
And she was like, no, you don't 
need to bring that. 

1028
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,120
And I was like, you know what? 
And I'm glad you said that to me

1029
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,720
instead of being like, that was 
really weird that you did that 

1030
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,440
and I'm just holding onto it 
forever. 

1031
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,800
You know what I mean? 
Did you bring it? 

1032
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,880
No, I didn't. 
I was like, she was like, what 

1033
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,680
she said was if you don't bring 
it and there aren't enough 

1034
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,640
outlets, you can bring it up 
whenever you want, OK, And you 

1035
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,760
will always have been right. 
And I was like, OK, I'll take 

1036
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,440
that deal. 
And then and then. 

1037
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,680
I was wrong. 
So. 

1038
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,840
No, I was wrong so. 
I so now you can. 

1039
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,680
So now I can't bring it up, but 
she could if she wants. 

1040
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,000
Wait, so you you went to the 
uncle's house and then there's 

1041
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,320
no. 
No, there were outlets. 

1042
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,640
There were, there were lots of 
outlets. 

1043
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,760
She was like, do you see all 
these? 

1044
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,840
I was like so. 
She was right. 

1045
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,320
She was. 
Right. 

1046
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,560
You're wrong. 
OK, She was right. 

1047
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,240
I was like. 
No, you can't. 

1048
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,840
Now, I can't bring it up, but 
she was, she was right to be 

1049
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,280
like, if it if I'm wrong, you 
can bring it up forever. 

1050
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,240
I was like, you know what? 
Yeah. 

1051
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,200
Yeah, you kind of wish she was. 
I kind of wish that I was right.

1052
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,800
Yeah. 
But even though it would be like

1053
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,440
a bad setup for an apartment, 
like I'm like, that would be bad

1054
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,680
for your aunt and uncle. 
But I kind of wish I was right. 

1055
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,840
But honestly, bringing outlets 
everywhere, it's such a smart 

1056
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,560
move. 
Like if. 

1057
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,880
We're going on a trip. 
I would look. 

1058
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,520
Definitely too. 
I think that it's more of an 

1059
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,800
issue when you're in hotels 
because sometimes they have like

1060
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,360
the one outlet by your bed. 
And like if you and your partner

1061
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,320
both want to plug in like your 
phone and then like your Airpods

1062
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,040
or something, then sometimes you
need like more than one. 

1063
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,800
But when you're going to a 
house, it's like they're gonna 

1064
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,880
have more than one outlet in the
house. 

1065
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,520
I'm sorry you were wrong, but 
it's OK. 

1066
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,440
I you have my, you have my 
support like I. 

1067
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Yeah, I'm building up a team. 
I'm gonna bring back a list of 

1068
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,800
names to my girlfriend and be 
like these are all the people 

1069
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,360
who thought I was justified in 
bringing. 

1070
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,880
The outlet, it's very much 
justified. 

1071
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,040
I would. 
I would be so happy if you're 

1072
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,480
the friend that actually brought
the. 

1073
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,120
Outlet, I mean, yeah, I feel 
like if I were going on a trip 

1074
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,080
with a bunch of people, like if 
me and my like high school 

1075
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,120
friends or whatever were going 
on a trip, I would definitely 

1076
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,960
bring it Cuz I would be like, 
we're all gonna want to 

1077
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,440
something. 
Yeah. 

1078
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,920
And like if we're all sharing 
like 2H rooms or one hotel room,

1079
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,920
like there's not gonna be enough
outlets at one point. 

1080
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,840
Yeah. 
Or whatever. 

1081
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,440
Yeah. 
And you don't wanna be like 

1082
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,680
moving the couch or like the 
whatever so that you can get to 

1083
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,360
like an outlet that's behind 
something. 

1084
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,920
I'm like, no, yeah, my outlet 
extender, everybody's excited. 

1085
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,040
You're a good friend. 
You're a planner in that in that

1086
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,440
regard. 
No, I just, I mean no. 

1087
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,080
You know what? 
I'll take it. 

1088
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,120
Yeah, yes. 
Yeah, I just like having 

1089
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,880
outlets. 
Yeah, I do too. 

1090
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,800
It's definitely better to have 
more holes than no. 

1091
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,920
You know what? 
That's it. 

1092
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,720
That's it, everybody. 
We did it. 

1093
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,560
We did it. 
We did it, yeah. 

1094
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Thank you so much for coming. 
Thank you SO. 

1095
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,320
Much for having me. 
This was so much. 

1096
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,920
Fun. 
Yeah, I had a great fun.

