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I got my nipple pinched by a 
lady boy. 

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Let's start first. 
I first time in a long time. 

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Still French episode 100. 
I got 2 special guests with me, 

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Legendary Ben the Bane Davis and
King David MMA here with me 

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today. 
Let's go. 

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I appreciate you 2 legends being
in the house today. 

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Listen, man takes one to know 
one, my God. 

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There we go. 
So wait, you guys started off 

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talking about a legendary 
Thailand trip recently? 

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Yeah. 
Can we get back into that? 

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We. 
We went to Thailand for Fight 

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Circus. 
I was a Fight Circus pays me to 

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shake my Dick. 
OK, so I'm a professional 

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gyrator at Fight Circus and they
pay Ben to do a much classier 

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job, which is being intellectual
and like talk and he's a 

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commentator. 
I don't even know, but the 

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classy and fight circus do not 
belong in the same sense, right?

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Yeah. 
You Dong Master 3000. 

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You had a very different 
assignment than me. 

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Right. 
Yeah. 

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So I, I was shaking my Dick and 
getting felt up by women in the 

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crowd and everything like that. 
But, you know, no. 

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Well, I did get my nipple 
pinched by a lady boy, which is 

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you can, you're allowed to say 
that in Thailand that's what 

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they prefer to be called, 
whereas in America that's 

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probably like not kosher, you 
know? 

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But yeah, it was. 
I was like, dude, this chick's 

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hot. 
She's feeling me. 

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And then I saw an Adam's apple 
and I was. 

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Like dog out bounce, you know? 
What I mean? 

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My nipple still hurts a little, 
but that shit, that shit got a 

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strong grip. 
Yeah yeah bro. 

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So how you doing? 
My God, I've. 

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Never been to Thailand yet 
you're taking on Thailand? 

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Ben It was It was an interesting
place. 

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You know, I think Thailand, I 
didn't get to see a lot of like 

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the touristy sides of it. 
I know some people went and saw 

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like the islands and the really 
cool water and it looks like a 

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postcard. 
A lot of places look like a 

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postcard. 
But where we were was definitely

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like, all right, I can't go 
outside at 9:00 PM or else. 

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Yeah, we we were in like 
whatever you see in the Hangover

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and you imagine Thailand's like 
that's what we were saying. 

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There was a club called Illusion
and it's like the number 11 

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nightclub in the world. 
It's the number one nightclub in

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Thailand, right. 
So we're like, oh, we're staying

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close to the venue. 
This is perfect. 

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We don't have to travel in a 
foreign country where we don't 

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speak the language. 
Nobody disclosed to us that club

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Illusion is on Bangalore Rd. 
which is the craziest St. 

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I've ever been on in my life. 
And you know, as a man out 

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there, you get physically, 
sexually assaulted non 

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consensually by workers of the 
night, we will call them, or 

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women of the night. 
The. 

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Family. 
Dude, the. 

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Family comes for you. 
There's a lot to process out 

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there. 
No club going at all for you. 

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I'm, I'm not single man. 
So like, there was a lot of it 

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that I just didn't feel 
comfortable engaging in this. 

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Guy, this guy's a choirboy. 
We were out there. 

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There's dudes out there that are
fully wild. 

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They're like, OK, so there's 
someone that shall remain 

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nameless that was busting in 
Thailand prostitutes and to be 

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like, there's no child support. 
Laws out here. 

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Doc and I'm like. 
Whoa bro, you're living. 

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Can't. 
Get pregnant anyway you're. 

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Living your best life and we're 
looking. 

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Around like, where's Ben Davis? 
And he's back in the room, you 

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know what I mean? 
He's got like incense burning. 

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He's like meditating, right? 
You know what I mean? 

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Listen, I got a little crazy the
night after the show. 

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FaceTime and his girlfriend from
his hotel room. 

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I'm trying. 
We're all like bad influences, 

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like, oh dude, we're going out, 
you know, so I. 

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Did I lost several $100 in 
Thailand after the show? 

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Because what happened was me and
Sammy J Luxton was my color 

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commentator. 
Sammy's a fantastic fighter. 

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Her boyfriend Dane and I, we 
took on several Thai lady boys 

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in in a never ending game of 
Connect Four. 

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They were kicking our fucking 
asses in Connect 4 and every 

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game was like 50 bucks. 
I've never played high stakes 

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like that right? 
And so I I was drunk. 

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I just kept going back and forth
to the ATM losing games of 

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Kinect. 4. 
So that's as crazy as I got. 

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So so they're excellent at 
Connect Four and there's this 

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game where they hit nails into a
piece of wood and like, yeah, 

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listen, you go out there, you 
think you got a like a strong 

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game of hitting a nail into wood
or whatever, bro, you're not 

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going to beat these trannies, 
dude. 

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They're just they're going to 
mop you up. 

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Yeah. 
And then? 

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Not even a Mexican. 
We were out there well, so we 

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were out there with the building
out there. 

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Just talk. 
I got you, bitch. 

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Yeah, they're. 
They're running it up in Connect

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4 for money and you know. 
I got swindled. 

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Yeah. 
And then and then they make you 

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propositions like if you want to
make your money back, then you 

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gotta you. 
Know you know I. 

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Think that's how they get you, 
right? 

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Just it just clicked who you 
were talking about, right, Man 

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who were man nameless. 
But it is really funny when 

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like, let's say you're in a 
group and they, they bring that 

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person to dinner. 
It's like they're like, I don't 

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know what to talk about with 
them for three hours. 

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Yeah, like so we're out there, 
the homie brings. 

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This chick to dinner. 
He met her in a fucking bar, 

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which out there if you meet him 
at, they're called bar girls, 

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right? 
So that's the word for 

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prostitute. 
So he met a bar girl and he's 

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bringing the bar girl to like 
production meetings, like table 

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reads, right? 
And if so, OK, so before you do 

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like a Hollywood production, you
read at a table, right? 

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So you all have your script and 
then I go and you, you little 

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motherfucker, you took my girl 
and I'm going to get you, right?

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Because I'm playing a pimp who's
fighting a rival pimp. 

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And then, you know, Ben hops in 
and he's like, oh, Dorm master 

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is fucking great and crazy here,
right? 

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So we do the whole table read. 
This dude's got a fucking hooker

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with. 
Him. 

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Right. 
You know what I mean? 

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And they're all cuddled up, 
like, make it out like, yeah, 

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everybody's like, oh, so she's 
like. 

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Oh, what you do for work. 
Oh well. 

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I play dorm master. 
I'm a professional. 

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Dorm. 
Master. 

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And then she's like, oh, I 
master Dong too. 

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And I'm. 
Like what? 

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And then you know, and then 
Ben's like. 

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Ben's. 
Ben's the sweetest one of us 

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all. 
He's like, oh, so how was your 

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night? 
Oh, yeah. 

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I mean, maybe I, you know, like 
I was. 

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Trying to like actually, he's 
asking. 

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Nice. 
Questions, but like you can't 

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even ask like how was your 
night? 

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Right, because like she got 
railed by like however many 

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dudes like, but she wasn't 
attracted. 

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It's like really sad and you're 
like, dude, she's she's a great 

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person, you know what I mean? 
But she's in this line of work 

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and now my boy's bringing her to
a table read and Ben's like 

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trying to make her feel 
comfortable and now it just got 

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really fucking awkward and 
weird. 

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I remember homie turned, I think
this is like the day before he 

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left. 
He was like, I think I'm getting

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married man. 
No you aren't. 

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Wait. 
It just made like to clarify she

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wasn't he right? 
No, in this scenario, this she 

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was a she, but she was she was a
very she. 

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Was a lady boy though, right? 
No, no, she was a very 

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experienced professional woman 
who's who's got a lot of 

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experience. 
I thought she was a woman. 

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I thought she was. 
I didn't I Oh, I. 

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Wasn't I thought I. 
Thought differently. 

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I mean, maybe. 
Again, I didn't check I so I 

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don't know. 
Ben was not convinced. 

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It's. 
Hard to tell. 

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It's hard to tell. 
He's like. 

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I'm gonna need you to pull down 
your pants and we're going to do

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a full body cavity search to to 
verify We're going to oil check 

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for for facts and and 
chromosomes. 

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I've been doing some work with 
the peppermint hippo here in 

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town the strip. 
Club right? 

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Dude, I just met 2 chicks from 
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Enough. 
Yeah, they they had a couple 

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girls down there. 
Who? 

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Who'd you meet? 
Her Instagram handle is Cashley 

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OK? 
Good name. 

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Great place. 
Nice. 

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Yeah. 
And then I met, I met another 

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girl. 
I don't, I don't remember. 

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Her name? 
Well anyway, so I met a couple 

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girls out there. 
Listen, I was very attracted to 

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the other one, but I didn't end 
up talking to her 'cause Cashley

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was quite aggressive, you know 
what I mean? 

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And she was like dominating the 
conversation. 

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I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I'm trying to holler at your 

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friend real quick. 
It's kind of wonder you can't 

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ruin it 'cause I had the 
guarantee. 

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Or do I swing for the fences? 
Yeah, so let let's say Cashley's

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a very sweet girl. 
And I think for the right 

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person, she's fantastic. 
She's got a target audience 

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she's looking for, and that will
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I don't fit into that category, 
right. 

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And so I was more interested in 
the other one. 

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And I'm like, trying to like, 
hey, yeah. 

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So I know you want me to go to 
the strip club, but I'm saying 

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you want to go to breakfast. 
Yeah. 

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But anyway, so you work with 
Spearman. 

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Anyway, a couple of. 
Girls peppermint rhino 

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peppermint. 
Rhino. 

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There's Spearman hippo and 
peppermint rhino animal. 

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Kingdom but. 
A couple of those Thai chicks 

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down there, they say the crazy 
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Thailand, if they're prettier, 
if they look perfect, it's going

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to be a guy. 
They're they're going to be 

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leaner, they're going to have 
better bodies and better tits. 

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Yeah, so essentially, if she's 
got perfect hair, perfect 

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eyebrows, fake lips, fake tits, 
a fake ass, she's got a bigger 

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Dick than you do straight up. 
You know what I mean? 

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And that's the rule. 
So I had I had various ways of 

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determining one Step 1. 
You always got to ask, right? 

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So I would, you know, Hey, you 
lady or lady boy, right. 

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That's but like any sign of like
Adam's apple, you got to bounce,

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right? 
If the Thai people on average 

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aren't super tall, right? 
So if she's like 5-10 and a 

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straight dime, like dude, you 
can't even, you can't even press

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your luck. 
I mean, unless you're into that.

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But like, you know, if you're 
not into that, you don't even 

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want to take that risk. 
So did anybody mention to this 

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buddy at all? 
Let's call him Stew, right? 

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Stew is the guy that's. 
Let's call him Big Stew Dog. 

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Big. 
Stew. 

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So big Stew, right? 
Big Stew gets stewed up. 

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Yep, right. 
Does anybody talk to him about 

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this? 
I want to say that somebody at 

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least mentioned to him, hey, 
man, what are you doing? 

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Yeah. 
Are you talking about the table 

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read? 
Or just in general? 

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Any point on this trip or since?
We talked to Stu. 

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We had to have mentioned the Stu
dude. 

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What's? 
Going on. 

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You know, she's a she's a lady 
of the night. 

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And I had a conversation with 
him where I said, man, you know,

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just so you know that like this 
is a meme, right? 

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Like you come out here, they 
pretend that they're into you 

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and they're trying to get like 
back to America. 

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And, you know, you're kind of 
like living the meme right now. 

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And he's like, Oh no, bro, I 
think it's, I think it's, he 

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thought it was real, you know 
what I mean? 

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You thought it was real. 
I'm like, listen man, more power

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to you. 
She's either a really convincing

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actress who's good at her job or
they had a genuine connection. 

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And I'm not ruling out either 
possibility. 

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It's a probability game. 
We'll go 1% Genuine Connection 

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99. 
She's playing Big Stew like a 

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violin. 
I thought it was I'm a romantic.

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OK. 
I believe in love. 

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I really think they fell in 
love. 

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They got on pretty well, you 
know, they they had a great 

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connection. 
What do you think it was? 

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He was paying her like. 
There's no way. 

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What do you mean? 
What do you think it was? 

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You're in Thailand. 
What made him fall in love with 

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her? 
Was it? 

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Did she give him an experience 
that he's never had before? 

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I mean, those are questions for 
Big Stu, but I guess if we had 

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to wager an answer, I'd go with 
good personality. 

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She was very pleasant. 
She was she was a fun person to 

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to have around because that's 
where that's where mine stops. 

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I didn't have anything more 
than. 

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That you were on a shorty's 
podcast for this recently. 

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He's got a buddy that he told me
a story of that he likes to get 

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a finger in his ass and it's the
hardest he's ever came in his 

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life. 
What do we call it? 

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A spark plug or something? 
What's the name for that? 

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Yeah. 
Is that what Stu went through to

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the Stu? 
I mean that's a that's a high 

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clearance question that I don't.
Even know if. 

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I have the passcode for it. 
Stu's in defeat, OK, yeah. 

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So I'm sure she had great feet. 
She had a great personality. 

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A lot of landscape. 
And so and so the other. 

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Thing too like so a lot of the 
dudes out there are just 

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dishevelled whatever Stu Stu's a
put together charismatic guy. 

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He's put together fashionable. 
So I think that in one way like 

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she has a job but she's got to 
do her job. 

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She's probably really good at 
her job and very experienced and

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like, you know. 
She crushed you, I mean. 

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Had several years of 
back-to-back to back-to-back 

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work all night, you know what I 
mean? 

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So she's probably really, really
good. 

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For the time to another bag. 
She's in another bag, Yeah, and.

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And at the same. 
Time though. 

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Stu is probably in the top 
percent of like fashion and like

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coolness that she's going to 
experience on a day-to-day 

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basis, right? 
So it was probably like a win 

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for her and a win for him. 
Right, right, right. 

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Everybody, everybody got 
something out of it. 

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But I I think you were on to 
something because the male G 

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spots inside the ass, right? 
That's what I've heard. 

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I didn't take anatomy I've 
heard. 

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That too, but I've never. 
You never experimented. 

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I had someone get close and I 
knew where. 

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They were headed right you. 
Got to shut him. 

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Down missile defense system was 
like we got out of there real 

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quick. 
Sure, sure. 

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I. 
Puckered and I was out. 

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What? 
He's with the pucker. 

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Right, like tongue was getting 
close and oh shit, 'cause I. 

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Shrimp out, man, you got you got
to hit the hips and then. 

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Exactly. 
Exactly. 

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You guys had another, you guys 
had that viral clip as well 

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where you guys were in Thailand,
right? 

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BLOB Tang? 
You talking about BLOB Tang? 

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Are you talking about Dick 
kicking? 

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Are you talking about lady boy 
versus real boy? 

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There's. 
A lot of viral clips that fight 

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circuses. 
I'm talking about Ben Bane Davis

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getting knocked out by King 
David. 

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Oh shit, I forgot about. 
That one I. 

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Forgot about that one listen he 
wanted. 

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To spar, he got to smoke. 
Straight up. 

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You know, I thought I could 
dethrone King David and I was 

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very incorrect, as I usually am 
when it comes to competition. 

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So so I fight professionally for
real, in addition to slanging 

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Dick at fight circus, right? 
So when I'm not gyrating my 

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penis publicly for fun and 
profits, right, I'm scrapping 

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dudes in the cage. 
And you know, Ben and I, we're 

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like, we're in Thailand, we're 
going to spark, right? 

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But in my head I'm like, dude, 
this. 

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I never met him. 
I'm like, he's an influencer. 

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He's not going to fucking punk 
me on Instagram reels and and 

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land a fucking two piece in a 
biscuit and then post it and 

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make me look. 
So I had to get him before he 

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got me. 
And I'm very comfortable hitting

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people. 
And so when I hit, it was not 

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like, like not like a oh, I'm 
mad at him. 

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It's just like, you know, man, 
that. 

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Was just business, baby. 
That was just a spar as a spar, 

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you know, and that was the game,
right? 

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I I think it was a fantastic 
opportunity to learn from a true

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pro. 
One thing about. 

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Ben, I got to give him credit 
for he's not afraid to get 

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knocked out to go viral. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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There's a lot of dudes that want
to like, hey, I want to go 

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viral, but I don't want to take 
a risk, you know what I mean? 

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This dude will put it on the 
line, bro. 

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He'll make the walk. 
Someone say too too much, too 

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much. 
Someone say you do it too much 

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man. 
Like like maybe like get hit 

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less? 
If I ever make it to the second 

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round, that's probably my corner
with. 

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Saying hey can. 
You stop getting it. 

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We need to get OK will somebody.
Hire this guy for a commentator 

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gig. 
Stop getting punched in the 

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face, please. 
You guys are either really good 

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or you're really good because I 
can't tell if you're fucking 

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with your. 
No, no, no. 

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That that. 
Is a real blow. 

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Yeah, that's a. 
Are you are you being serious? 

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No. 
Yeah. 

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Watch the clip back. 
Watch the clip back point right 

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now. 
I had thought that was WWE has 

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at its finest. 
Well, the angle, so obviously 

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the angle that you're you're 
looking at it from was a little 

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tough and it looks a bit goofy. 
But if we add a couple more 

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angles of it, you could clearly.
See, well, knowing you was the 

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biggest part of it. 
Knowing how goofy you are and 

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how great of an actor and how 
into it you are, I knew you 

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could pull that off. 
Well, yeah, and I know that he's

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not. 
He's not afraid to get hit. 

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And in the event that I did, I 
he's not hurt, no, don't get me 

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wrong. 
But if I heard him, if I heard 

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him with a shot, I know he's not
going to get mad at me and it's 

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not going to fuck the whole 
promotion up, right? 

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So at one point I felt like he 
hit. 

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OK, so sometimes I fight with my
hands down a little and I felt 

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like he had kind of landed a 
little on me. 

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And that's what I'm saying. 
Like I'm not gone. 

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You're not. 
Going to let this. 

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Guy in all offense bro. 
But I'm I don't know him, so 

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I'm. 
Looking at him like dude, this 

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fucking influencer thing. 
Oh. 

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Yeah, you're not joking right 
now. 

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Holy shit. 
No. 

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And then I'm like, I'm, I'm a 
pick it up a little and then I'm

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like, oh shit. 
I was down and. 

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Then and then and then. 
So Fight Circus already had an 

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issue with me, right? 
Because when I did the the 

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casting, they said I was 
concerned I might be a little 

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too extreme, right, Because I'm,
you know what I mean? 

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I like at first it's hard to 
process what's going on. 

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You go to King David MMA on 
Instagram, you're like, there's 

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a lot here, right? 
And so now I'm like, dude, I 

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hurt the fucking in my head. 
I'm like, dude, this is going to

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be a great viral clip. 
But at the same time, like we're

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not we're not like super tight 
boys at that time. 

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And he's with like, to me, the 
production side, like he's he's 

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one of those dudes. 
He's not, you know what I mean? 

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And then he's like telling me, 
oh, I thought Anderson Silva's 

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kid and shit. 
And I'm like, dude, I don't know

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how to process him either, 
right? 

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So I hoped it would be all 
right. 

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I. 
Wasn't bragging, I think we were

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talking about experience. 
And I was like, oh, I've done 

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this, this and that before, but 
but yeah, I mean, I was I, I 

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think that was a big thing is we
didn't want to fuck up the vibe,

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right? 
And thankfully we, we had so 

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many fun memories after that. 
I was down for a couple minutes 

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and we were attacking Muy Thai 
and I remember the guy who was 

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the name of the instructor, the 
guy that was holding pads for 

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us, really famous Muy Thai 
referee. 

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And we wanted him in there 
because we recognized, hey, this

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could get a bit hairy. 
And so I'm down for three 

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fucking minutes, dude, and he's 
just cradling me and you know, 

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when I come to him fucking my 
little baby in his arms, right, 

397
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King David still on the ropes. 
It was a tough one, but you 

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know, we, we had a good memory. 
We had a great memory. 

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We. 
Had grappled before that too, so

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I knew that he was a little 
tough and it, it might get 

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weird, but yeah, you know, so 
that that turned out to be like 

402
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the the spark of our friendship.
What? 

403
00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:20,240
Amazing friendship you get. 
Slapped by your boys? 

404
00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,400
Yeah, I do. 
OK, well, you're not a pussy, 

405
00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,839
you know what I mean? 
He's a hand, right? 

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So, yeah. 
And then, you know, ever ever 

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since then, we've been boys. 
So. 

408
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And ever since then you've had 
another huge fight that got put 

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together. 
Unfortunately, yeah. 

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BKFC, that was an interesting 
one. 

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How did that get? 
Put together in the first place.

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The the short story of it is I'm
coming back from an event and 

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Oscar Willis calls me and he 
says, listen, now that you know,

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Connor is involved to be KFC and
has equity, they want to push it

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00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,440
on the Mac life. 
Well, what would justify more 

416
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exposure on the Mac life? 
Oscar Willis fighting, You know,

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00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,280
he did tough enough a couple 
years ago, which was fantastic. 

418
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And when he pitched this idea to
them, they loved it. 

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They were like, Oscar, who you 
going to fight? 

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Who who would make sense? 
And he called me and he was 

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like, dude, I think, I think, 
you know, this would be fun for 

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us to do. 
And I within about 10 seconds 

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said yes. 
And with how the fight went, 

424
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maybe I should have considered 
it more, but but it immediately 

425
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I was like that be a great 
opportunity And I had about it 

426
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was a six week camp, but two of 
those weeks I had shows and he 

427
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was travelling I think the last 
three weeks. 

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So he had he had a really strong
first three weeks, I think at 

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extreme couture and then he had 
to go work. 

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00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,000
I had a really strong last 
couple weeks heading into it. 

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So we almost had the exact 
opposite fight camp experience. 

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So I didn't feel like he was 
getting a better edge training 

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wise and I don't think he felt 
like I was getting a better edge

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training wise. 
I felt like it was 5050 

435
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competitive as fuck. 
And and you know, ultimately 

436
00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,840
styles make fights and he had a 
great game plan and melted me 

437
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,040
apart. 
So I mean going into it you 

438
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,040
didn't even ask number numbers 
wise what what we're looking. 

439
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,680
At I tossed a couple numbers at 
BKFC that they weren't fans of. 

440
00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:00,920
They're like, take a zero off 
the end of that, you know what I

441
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,600
mean? 
Like, well, 'cause you know, and

442
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,920
I was asking for both of us. 
I think what I told them is, you

443
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,680
know, I, I, I wanted a specific 
number for both Oscar and I 

444
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because I'm like, this is 
incredibly crazy and stupid. 

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00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,160
And I think at that point, Bryce
Hall was the only guy that was 

446
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outside of traditional combat 
sports to get in a BKFC. 

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So I was like, let's make it 
worth everybody's while. 

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And. 
And worth it, right? 

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Like to put it in context, if 
you've never been to BKFC, it's 

450
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,520
the sketchiest thing you've ever
seen in your life live like 

451
00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:31,160
dudes are getting stretchered 
out, people's faces are getting 

452
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,000
busted wide open. 
They have like vaginas above 

453
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,040
their eyes just bleeding into 
their dude. 

454
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,400
Guys are like winning fights and
breaking their both their hands 

455
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,960
or like one of their hands is 
like the bones coming out of it 

456
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,520
and they can't fight anymore. 
And it's like that guy was 

457
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,400
winning and he had to quit 
because his, his middle knuckle 

458
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,640
is popped out of his skin and 
there's blood going everywhere 

459
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,160
and he needs medical attention. 
So when they when he when Ben's 

460
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,880
saying like, we need to make it 
worth it, like dude, there's 

461
00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,120
like it's the sketchiest thing 
I've ever seen live outside of 

462
00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,640
like somebody getting jumped in 
the street like an actual 

463
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,400
sanctioned event. 
BKFC is is. 

464
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,720
Nutty to watch live. 
It's insane and. 

465
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,440
So he's putting his health on 
the line. 

466
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,880
Well, especially 'cause like, I 
have to go do these broadcasts 

467
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,240
and if I get a busted nose 
that's gonna take a long time to

468
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,640
heal, might not look the same, 
right? 

469
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,920
And so I was trying to consider 
all of these other variables, 

470
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,840
but like I always do, it was a 
great opportunity. 

471
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,560
And I never like things coming 
on my table and saying no 

472
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,840
because I'm never, I don't want 
to look back and go, man, I wish

473
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,080
I did that man. 
Fighting Oscar in a bull 

474
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,560
fighting ring in Spain on BKFCI.
Wish I did that. 

475
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,240
No, I'm going to do it. 
And then if it goes poorly or it

476
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,480
goes well, I'm still going to be
glad that it occurred. 

477
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,240
So, you know, thankfully we we 
agreed on some numbers and got 

478
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,600
it done less than I wanted. 
I'll be fine saying that it was 

479
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,080
less than I wanted, but I 
recognize the opportunity was 

480
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,320
worth, you know, more than the 
the financial less. 

481
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,560
Than you want it sounds like. 
Still a pretty penny. 

482
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,600
Yeah, it was great. 
No, I mean like, like it's it is

483
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,840
stupid that I've made a lot more
than most fighters ever will. 

484
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,240
Isn't that pretty? 
My fighting career? 

485
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,160
It's fucking stupid. 
It's that's not how it should 

486
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,720
happen. 
I think that, you know, I think 

487
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,080
that the. 
I think that is how it should 

488
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,240
happen, right? 
Because like really what, what 

489
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,600
is it? 
It's fight and it's business, 

490
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,320
right? 
Right. 

491
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,400
Well, you got the business side 
down. 

492
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,960
You're bringing eyeballs, you're
selling pay per views, right? 

493
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,840
Some other dude might be 
training in his garage or a gym 

494
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,960
or whatever, like super good at 
fighting, but it's like, no, no 

495
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240
one cares, right? 
So if you bring a story, you're 

496
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,400
going to scrap the dude for Mac 
life, right? 

497
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,640
And people are interested in 
that because Connor is going to 

498
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,840
show up and now the pressures on
and the lights and bull fighting

499
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,120
arena and all this shit. 
Well then dude, you deserve to 

500
00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,000
get compensated. 
And I'm not saying the other 

501
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,920
dude doesn't right, But I'm just
saying to like, oh, you know, I 

502
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,840
you shouldn't get paid less if 
anything, right, If maybe the 

503
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,880
other guy should be paid more. 
Right, he's bringing the value 

504
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,760
less he's. 
Bringing the value with the 

505
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,200
entertainment, right He actually
bringing an audience. 

506
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,960
It was the biggest fight of that
card. 

507
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,640
No disrespect to my man Austin 
Trout or the title fights that 

508
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,720
were on it, and those were some 
fantastic scraps. 

509
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,920
But when you look at the 
numbers, when you look at who 

510
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,280
Dana White was talking about 
that week, who Rogan was 

511
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,360
mentioning that week out of 
Sanya was mentioning that week, 

512
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,400
it was me and Oscar, you know, 
And that was I think an 

513
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,400
understanding that Oscar and I 
had at the outset was this was 

514
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,840
going to be a really and. 
That's a value you bring too, 

515
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,760
because Oscar can't no offense, 
like fight a a super good pro, 

516
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,480
right? 
And then he can't fight some 

517
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,680
influencer that doesn't know how
to fight at all. 

518
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,160
So he's in a weird space where 
he's like a pretty good amateur 

519
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,080
boxer, but at the same time he 
needs somebody that's one, not a

520
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,080
pro, but two, like we'll fight 
him, but there's also an 

521
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,960
influencer. 
So it's like this weird mix that

522
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,640
kind of Ben can fulfill in that 
like niche, you know what I 

523
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,240
mean? 
So to me it's like yeah the the 

524
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,680
if the fight takes 2 to tango. 
Specifically in the media side 

525
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,640
of things, right in the media 
market, who else would there 

526
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,160
have been for Oscar to go 
against? 

527
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,200
Exactly. 
Yeah, I think it it makes it 

528
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,000
made the most sense. 
And that's when he called me. 

529
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,360
The thing that I realized 
immediately was like, there's 

530
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,600
nobody else really that could 
probably do this outside of. 

531
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,200
It was a perfect storm, it 
seemed like. 

532
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,280
And I had sparred both of them, 
right? 

533
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,920
So we had trained in Thailand. 
And then Oscar came to Extreme 

534
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,120
Couture and I didn't know who 
was going to win. 

535
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,680
Really. 
No, I did it. 

536
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,080
I really did it. 
OK, Because so, so there's 

537
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,320
there's X Factor with Ben, Ben's
Ben's very well buttoned up and 

538
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,720
composed and professional, but 
he's, he's got like this like 

539
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,120
underlying, like suppressed rage
in his eyes. 

540
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,280
And I'm like, dude, if the rage 
comes out, who knows what might 

541
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,000
happen? 
Because sometimes it's not 

542
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,320
necessarily like a technical 
battle. 

543
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,240
It's like someone fucker's got 
the dog in him, you know what I 

544
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480
mean? 
And I know that Ben's not afraid

545
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,840
to scrap, right? 
So I was like, dude, I was like,

546
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,360
they're both pretty 
inexperienced. 

547
00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:40,480
I was like, I, I sparred Oscar. 
And I didn't know, like, at the 

548
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,840
time that he was with Macklife, 
right? 

549
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,040
I just was like, hey, man, you 
want to get around because we're

550
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,960
both in the same class. 
And he's like, oh, yeah, man, 

551
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,880
I'm an amateur boxer. 
Is it cool if we just box? 

552
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,840
And then we box? 
And then I'd landed a couple 

553
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,320
shots on him and he was like a 
little frustrated. 

554
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,040
And I'm like, dude, I got 11 pro
fights, bro. 

555
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,360
What are you frustrated about? 
You know? 

556
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,720
And then it turns out that he's 
going to be fighting Ben and 

557
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,600
like he's got this pressure on 
him and all this shit. 

558
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,400
And I was like, OK, well, so the
fact that he got frustrated that

559
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040
somebody landed on him, that's a
good sign, right? 

560
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,560
But at the same time, you know, 
I know Ben's a fucking dog. 

561
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,240
And I'm like, dude, this is this
is the most entertaining fight 

562
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,480
to me, like the most interesting
fight on the card because it's 

563
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640
like bare knuckle in itself is 
cool. 

564
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,240
But when I know. 
Both the people. 

565
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,680
You know what I mean? 
And I'm like, do I've trained 

566
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,880
with both of them and I don't 
know how it's going to go take 

567
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,320
my money, you know what I mean? 
Just fucking yes. 

568
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,800
I. 
Mean I would pay for more media 

569
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,440
members to fight to be honest. 
I think everybody should, man. 

570
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,200
I think there's a lot of people 
that in this space want to say 

571
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,920
that they have a voice. 
And thankfully this this is big 

572
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,760
enough that everyone can say 
what they want and everyone can 

573
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,320
have the platform and shows that
they want. 

574
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,360
But if you really want 
credibility and legitimacy, 

575
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,680
there's no reason why you 
shouldn't want to try and get in

576
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,400
there at least once. 
And I'm not saying you need to 

577
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,680
go all the way to Spain, fight 
in front of 13,000 people, take 

578
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,080
a smoker, right? 
Or just train and then take 

579
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,320
something local like, you know, 
I, I, I think that it's. 

580
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,440
You were telling me about the 
emotions that you felt backstage

581
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600
and, and he's in the back and 
people are getting fucked up, 

582
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720
right? 
And he's like, dude, I'm, I'm 

583
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,360
going to make the walk. 
You know what I mean? 

584
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760
And like like. 
So the fact that he's felt that 

585
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,920
fucking fear and that like, holy
shit, my health is really on the

586
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,200
line, it makes him a better 
commentator now, right, As 

587
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,920
opposed to somebody else who 
hasn't felt that. 

588
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,920
Walking that walk. 
Oh, you know, so and so has 

589
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000
really got a fucking bite down 
on his mouthpiece. 

590
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,680
And I'm like, bro, yeah, you 
think that right? 

591
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,680
Until you've been fucking rocked
and now it's time to bite down. 

592
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,960
If you've never done it, you 
don't know what you're talking 

593
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,960
about, right? 
So this dudes done it. 

594
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,080
I think from a play by play 
angle, I get to make and build 

595
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,680
moments in a more effective 
manner for that exact reason, 

596
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,440
right when they're making that 
walk, when there are such high 

597
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,240
stakes on the line. 
As someone that's been in that 

598
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,080
position and have have been in 
those shoes, I I think as a play

599
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,240
by play, I can inflate these 
fights to a bigger degree for 

600
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,040
these athletes. 
That's more authentic because 

601
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,800
like you said, anyone can just 
look at it and go, oh, he's got 

602
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,440
to dig under hooks and he's got 
to reposition. 

603
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,000
But it's like, if you haven't 
fought, then that that really is

604
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,240
just, you know, a bit of a 
baseless opinion. 

605
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,160
Right. 
It's like, it's like 

606
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,120
speculation. 
And you see how articulate he is

607
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,640
too, right? 
I'm over here like. 

608
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,680
See, he's good 'cause he's not. 
A pussy And he's like David and 

609
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,040
what? 
He's like, look at, you know, I.

610
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480
I try and be authentic. 
I'm like, dude, that's perfect. 

611
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,360
Yeah, so. 
Look at the lexical durability 

612
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,280
is. 
But what was that like? 

613
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,080
I mean because it is different 
going out with gloves going 

614
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,880
knowing you are going to be bare
knuckle. 

615
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Yeah, it was weird, man. 
It was tough. 

616
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,160
We did a lot of work in camp to 
try and replicate what that 

617
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600
would feel like with no gloves. 
And so we, we were doing the 

618
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,880
Karate Combat on pads and on the
bag and like the Karate Combat 

619
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,040
gloves were about under 4 oz, 
just under 4. 

620
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,560
So really light hard spars and 
seven oz. 

621
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,760
So I, I, I thought that I had a 
really good grasp on what it's 

622
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,400
going to be like. 
And then when in there and I 

623
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,600
start eating those shots and I'm
trying to cover up and just, 

624
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920
there's nothing that's stopping 
his shots from coming through. 

625
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,840
I was like, yeah, this isn't 
going well. 

626
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,840
Like I remember. 
So I remember after the first 

627
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,560
knockdown, he he catches me this
beautiful uppercut in the 

628
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,320
clinch. 
I go down and Connor's sitting 

629
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040
right there and I make eye 
contact with him and he's like, 

630
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,640
you call, keep your chin poked 
my and I was like, thanks man. 

631
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,120
And it went up and got knocked 
down three more times. 

632
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,120
So but it was weird. 
It hurt and I remember like. 

633
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,400
Thanks, Connor. 
Yeah, thanks, buddy. 

634
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800
But I remember I was telling 
myself like right before I 

635
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,040
walked out and there were so 
many complications that that I 

636
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,600
won't, you know, bore anybody 
with. 

637
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,360
But like, it was a difficult 
week. 

638
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,760
And right before I walked out 
there, I was just telling myself

639
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,960
I'm a showman, I'm an 
entertainer, they want to show. 

640
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240
I know I can put that on. 
And it was a fun fight. 

641
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,240
It was not a great competitive 
display from my end. 

642
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,640
But I think if you watch that 
fight, it's far more 

643
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,360
entertaining than Derrick Lewis 
and Francis and Ganu, right? 

644
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,920
So. 
He's calling out name. 

645
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800
He's calling out name. 
No disrespect to those two, 

646
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,640
they're fantastic, but like 
there's a lot of fights that 

647
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,440
have come and gone where it's 
like, all right, well, that 

648
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600
happened, but I think this one, 
you know. 

649
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,720
It was. 
It was a. 

650
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,080
It was a fun fight. 
If you haven't seen it, go watch

651
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,920
it back Dan Davis. 
Go watch me die. 

652
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,440
Versus Oscar from the math Life 
and tell me if it's entertaining

653
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,240
or not because it was. 
It was a fun fight. 

654
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,680
What was the game plan coming 
in? 

655
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,320
So the game plan was round one. 
We were going to really take 

656
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,240
some time off and establish the 
jab. 

657
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,240
I wanted to keep him at the end 
of the length because I was a 

658
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,880
little bit taller and I think I 
had a little bit more reach than

659
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,640
him. 
And I recognized that. 

660
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,600
You know, what's funny is like I
didn't want a brawl. 

661
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,000
I didn't want to engage in the 
firefighter, the trenches. 

662
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,160
I wanted to fight smart, which 
might have been the dumbest 

663
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,680
thing because like you said, 
BKFC is fucking insane and so. 

664
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520
And any short rounds. 
Super short rounds, so the 

665
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,520
smarter approach, yeah. 
And so and so he's got the right

666
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,440
approach for like a 12 round 
boxing match with big gloves, 

667
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,440
right? 
You know, I'm for real. 

668
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,360
And so everybody would think 
that's the correct approach, but

669
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,800
I've cornered it. 
BKFC, dude, it's it's like balls

670
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280
to the wall. 
Hurt the motherfucker before he 

671
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,800
hurts you, straight up. 
And if you can hurt the dude, 

672
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,200
now he's behind. 
And once you're behind, it's 

673
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,320
you. 
Yeah, you have to. 

674
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,240
It's a totally different game. 
I think the big thing that, you 

675
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920
know, during fight camp, we 
worked one specific combo that I

676
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,920
just was so confident in, It was
that 2-3 and I thought either 

677
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,040
going forwards when I'm putting 
the pressure on him, that 2/3 

678
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,800
was going to be there. 
And then even if he was trying 

679
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,320
to get in my pocket when I'm 
coming backwards, bop bop, like 

680
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280
walk into that left hook. 
The problem was when the fight 

681
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
was occurring, I couldn't land 
it at all. 

682
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,720
Like no distance management. 
I, I just couldn't. 

683
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,600
He was just so pressure heavy. 
Off we weren't expecting. 

684
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,560
Because we watched that Tough 
Enough fight and like that was a

685
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,640
couple years ago, so we weren't 
thinking that he was going to 

686
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,440
fight the same way. 
But when you watch that fight, 

687
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,240
like he was so patient and there
was a lot less volume pressure 

688
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,160
right off the bat. 
So for him to jump in and just 

689
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160
straight shots, which I probably
should have done was more 

690
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,600
straight shots, right? 
I, I was, I was like, damn, this

691
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,600
is a bit surprising. 
But like I said it perfect game 

692
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880
plan from him, you know, talk 
about and that was the thing I 

693
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240
said after the fight. 
I was so happy and proud of him 

694
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,360
because it was a great, 
fantastic display. 

695
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640
I was as proud of him as I was 
bummed for myself. 

696
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,840
So it was a weird, it was a 
really weird position for me to 

697
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,760
be in mentally. 
But at the end of the day, the 

698
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,360
way I think of it is if I was 
going to lose anybody, I thought

699
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,120
it was him. 
And so when Conor McGregor's 

700
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,280
telling Ben. 
You got to keep your chin up. 

701
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,440
Mate, right now when Ben sees a 
Conor McGregor fight having 

702
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,040
tried to land a 2-3, it puts a 
new context on what Conor was 

703
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,000
able to do to let's say Eddie 
Alvarez where you're like, dude,

704
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,080
I've tried to land a specific 
combo in a like, how did this 

705
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,840
dude land four shots on a guy 
who's falling down? 

706
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,600
Who's a champion? 
And so when I'm saying he's a 

707
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640
better commentator for having 
fought, I would encourage more 

708
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,320
commentators to fight so that 
it's one thing to like 

709
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,520
intellectually know, it's 
another thing to like actually 

710
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,720
have done, you know? 
Right. 

711
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480
And so obviously you've done 
boxing now Bare knuckle boxing, 

712
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,120
MMA Next with John Anik. 
Against John, I saw someone put 

713
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,920
this up on Twitter. 
They're like, all right, genuine

714
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,880
question, who would win? 
And everyone said that I would 

715
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,600
die. 
I don't know. 

716
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,640
I mean, I I think Annex talked 
about doing MMA before, but I 

717
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,000
know that he's not super 
interested in it. 

718
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,160
I don't want to fight. 
I don't want to fight John, man.

719
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,320
I don't want to fight anybody 
that works as a play by play 

720
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,680
commentator like the fights that
I have, especially from this 

721
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,440
point forward. 
I don't know a lot of question 

722
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,360
marks. 
I don't even know, but I've 

723
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,800
never. 
You don't have to say names, but

724
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,760
I'm genuinely curious like what 
are you looking for? 

725
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,120
Like if not that you have to 
fight again, right? 

726
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,280
But like if you were to fight 
again, would it be more of a 

727
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,320
you're saying you don't want to 
fight a play by play 

728
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,920
commentator, right? 
But you would like to fight. 

729
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Somebody else in the media. 
Right. 

730
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,920
No. 
Like Dan, Tom. 

731
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,560
Like a fighter. 
Dan Tom. 

732
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,440
No bro, it's my boy. 
Dan's my man, no? 

733
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,720
Big shouts to Dan. 
No, I, I'm. 

734
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Telling like you know what I'm 
telling. 

735
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,680
Well, I'm telling be funny. 
See that be? 

736
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Viral. 
What I'm saying? 

737
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,920
So he's got a different like 
metric of like, I don't want to 

738
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,640
fight a guy that like I think I 
could beat. 

739
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,400
He's like, I want to fight the 
craziest fucking viral moment in

740
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,880
a what not to saying that like 
there's not people out there you

741
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,920
could go viral with. 
You could still beat, but like 

742
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,560
BLOB 10 would be a challenging 
fight, you know what I'm saying?

743
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080
But that would be visually 
appealing. 

744
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,160
It would be like, whoa, these 
two like, you know. 

745
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,480
I think for me, what I look for 
next, if I was going to fight, 

746
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,840
which I'm not actively 
interested in, if I never fight 

747
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,640
again, I wouldn't be mad. 
I feel like I've checked the 

748
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,280
boxes that I needed to. 
I, I didn't have anything to 

749
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,240
prove even before the Gabe Silva
fight, even before the Brad 

750
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Bolton CFFC match, which again, 
both of those were not entirely 

751
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,120
competitive or fair, but I 
didn't have anything to prove. 

752
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000
But I've gone out and this is 
all extracurricular. 

753
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,560
This is icing on top. 
So again, if I had to do 

754
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080
something, it would have to be 
MMA next because it's the only 

755
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,520
thing I haven't done. 
I've done jiu jitsu, I've done 

756
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,000
boxing, I've done karate combat,
I've done bare knuckle. 

757
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,480
The last Infinity stone that I 
could possibly collect is a MMA 

758
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,080
debut. 
Now the question is where, where

759
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,040
would I do that? 
What platform would it be on for

760
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960
me? 
I look at it and I go, I'm a man

761
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,720
of constant escalation. 
I have to always be one upping 

762
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,800
or else I'm going backwards and 
regressing, which is just 

763
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,080
stupid. 
I don't think anyone should do 

764
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,280
that. 
So I go, I look at it, I go BKFC

765
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,120
13,000 people bullfighting ring 
in Spain. 

766
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,120
The only place that I could 
compete at next would be UFC. 

767
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,200
Right, it would be. 
I have to get like and listen. 

768
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,640
I'm fine if they throw me on 
Contender series, all right in 

769
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,800
some random showcase or like 
prelims of an apex right against

770
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,880
somebody, I don't care. 
But that's the only logical 

771
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,480
place. 
That's the only logical place. 

772
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,280
That they can put me on. 
To me it's logical. 

773
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,000
To me it would make sense. 
I know to many others it 

774
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,680
wouldn't, but I just don't think
I could really like go from, 

775
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,560
from, you know, what I've done 
within BKFC and, and how big 

776
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120
that was to them backwards. 
And so I'd like. 

777
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,280
I'd rather not fight than go 
backwards. 

778
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,120
Interesting. 
Really. 

779
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600
It's like even if it was with 
Bellator PFL. 

780
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,080
Oh, PFL. 
Maybe if PFL wanted to throw me 

781
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160
some money, maybe I'd do PFL. 
Ben Ben Ben Davis on the Jake 

782
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Paul undercard. 
Jake Paul's PFL debut You know 

783
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,800
what I. 
Mean, there we go. 

784
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:10,400
Maybe as his opponent. 
Yeah, well, if that I mean shit,

785
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440
actually talking about people in
media that I don't like that 

786
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,080
Derek from better media guy, 
right. 

787
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,280
If he ever was serious about 
competing. 

788
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,199
I know, I know Oscar wanted 
that. 

789
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,120
I would love that fight, but I I
don't think he'll ever. 

790
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Keep weighs like $1.30 right? 
Buck 20. 

791
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,199
Cut down I will remove my left 
arm to make his weight so. 

792
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,800
So what do you weigh right now? 
Like 50 or something. 

793
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,960
I was, I weigh my stuff. 
Yes, I was 156. 

794
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,280
Oh. 
Dude, we'll get you to 30 no 

795
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:34,960
problem. 
Easy. 

796
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,840
No problem. 
I told my coach I was like, 

797
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,840
dude, if we ever do this again, 
bantamweights, where we got to 

798
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,920
fucking be. 
Listen man, that that guy, if he

799
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,920
doesn't say yes, he's ducking 
straight up because you're, 

800
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,120
you're not a £250 dude, you know
what I mean? 

801
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,719
You're not 100 fight fucking pro
fighter veteran. 

802
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,040
You're not Mike Tyson, you know 
what I'm saying? 

803
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,000
Every everybody wants to be 
around it, but nobody wants to 

804
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,920
step in there and get the smoke,
is the issue. 

805
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040
So I mean, we could probably get
that lined up right if Jake Paul

806
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,240
finally does do APFL fight, 
which he has signed to them, 

807
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,480
right, Right. 
If you get a fight on that card 

808
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,920
against better Derek. 
I'd be down for it or anyone 

809
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,400
else like I think I think if 
Jake. 

810
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Paul Holler at Ben Davis looks. 
Great. 

811
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,560
I think if if there was a couple
other names right that were 

812
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,920
floated on me and and Jake Paul 
was doing MMADB, being on that 

813
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,960
card would be a lot of fun. 
I think that'd be a lot of fun. 

814
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,640
Well. 
I I want you to fight non rose 

815
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,320
and fight circus. 
I don't. 

816
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,160
I'm gonna beat my ass. 
No, no, no. 

817
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,640
And Muy Thai she would. 
Yeah. 

818
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,080
But if you could. 
Change. 

819
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,000
As an MMA I have no edge even if
the rules set change. 

820
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,520
You can. 
You can shoot. 

821
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:43,000
Bro why I don't? 
Grapple, yeah I would need a 9mm

822
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,320
to beat. 
On yeah, OK, right. 

823
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,280
So. 
Yeah, me. 

824
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000
The shooting. 
What wrestling credentials? 

825
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,240
Just. 
Meet him on the way in I. 

826
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,120
Got hope bro, I got hope. 
It's the optimist. 

827
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,480
It's the glass half full of 
mindset. 

828
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,200
I'm like you. 
Could beat a lady boy bro, you 

829
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:58,560
know. 
You gotta believe a. 

830
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,840
Lady Boy. 
Yeah. 

831
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,280
Bro no shot dude. 
She's been founded by plenty of 

832
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,280
men, you know what I mean? 
She. 

833
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,720
Especially had big stews in her 
corner. 

834
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Big Stew in the corner. 
She can take a beat in and keep 

835
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,320
on eating less. 
Oh gosh. 

836
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,560
No, I've either of you hang hung
out with big stews since. 

837
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,000
I've, I've hung out with him in 
a couple different cities. 

838
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,240
Yeah. 
And you know, he's he's. 

839
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,120
How's he doing? 
Man, he's a change man. 

840
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,520
He's what happens in Thailand 
stays in Thailand. 

841
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Well, that's true, I guess. 
Not unless we're on the Still 

842
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Friends show. 
We're talking. 

843
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,520
About. 
No, so he's he's currently in 

844
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,120
America and he currently does 
not have any Thai women living 

845
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,400
with him to my knowledge. 
Is he too single? 

846
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,480
Has he found someone or is he? 
He's flying solo so. 

847
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,160
He's playing the field, yeah. 
You know. 

848
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,600
What? 
I mean, he's playing the field. 

849
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,520
Big Stu keeps his options open. 
I've not seen him since. 

850
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Thailand, man. 
No, no, no. 

851
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,680
We'll all have to hang out. 
One day we'll figure out a city 

852
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,640
or something. 
Not Thailand and not nowhere in.

853
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Thailand freaking out a city. 
Oh base dudes like poo cat. 

854
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,160
I've never. 
Been. 

855
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Who? 
Knows what I like and what I 

856
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,240
don't like. 
I I like it, Right, Right. 

857
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,000
You know, you never know what 
that happens. 

858
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,360
You've been a poo cat, right 
I've. 

859
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,480
Never. 
No, no. 

860
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,600
No. 
Oh man. 

861
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,480
But you've fought before, yes, 
right. 

862
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,960
So when are you getting back in 
there? 

863
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160
That's the question, man. 
I. 

864
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,640
I need some stem cells. 
To be honest, I've got a little 

865
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,600
bit too many things Jack. 
I'm I'm a disabled veteran, 

866
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920
right? 
So like I'm like, I'm jacked up.

867
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,000
I've got my back should be 
fused, but there's just no discs

868
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,040
there anymore. 
Oh wow. 

869
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840
So I've got a bunch of things 
that I should either have 

870
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,600
surgery on or go see some stem 
cell specialists. 

871
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,160
Oh shit. 
I'm. 

872
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Going to start running steroids.
I think that's my next gambit. 

873
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,880
It's just. 
Stuffing smoke straight. 

874
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,360
Up bro. 
Do you imagine me just walking 

875
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,040
out there built like a tank? 
Now we're talking bang. 

876
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Now, yeah, you got. 
Ben before now don't talk to 

877
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,440
Ben. 
They drug test it, just the cup 

878
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,360
melts in their hands. 
You can't even test the, that's 

879
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,080
how drugged up I am. 
Fucking radioactive talking 

880
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,120
about cups. 
Melting. 

881
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,840
Yeah, this weekend, right? 
The UFC event. 

882
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Kaya Sakura. 
Do you think he's got a shot? 

883
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,640
No, I mean everyone has a shot. 
I'm joking. 

884
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,960
It's everyone has a chance and 
Kai is a very decorated fighter.

885
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,520
I think he's got 26 pro fights. 
Japanese. 

886
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Right, Japanese, that's your 
words, I think. 

887
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,040
I think what Kai brings is like 
the chip on the shoulder, right.

888
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,360
You're the cat that's debuting 
for the title. 

889
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,720
I think that he's big underdog 
plus 260 + 300. 

890
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,160
So I think there's a chip on the
shoulder. 

891
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,480
My only question is, because of 
the rule set difference, is he 

892
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,920
going to come in here and 
there's going to be a moment 

893
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680
where he's like, yeah, I'm going
to throw a knee to the head of a

894
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,240
downed opponent. 
You know what I mean? 

895
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,520
Like I've if if he does that, 
give him the title. 

896
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,760
Soccer. 
Give him the title. 

897
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,480
He's earned it at that point. 
Exactly. 

898
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,840
It's a tough fight though man. 
I think Pantoja the big thing 

899
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,400
for I don't honestly brother 
fight is one thing, but he 

900
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,760
shaved his hair where he got the
buzz cut. 

901
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,120
Like Samson, he lost his power. 
That's what I'm saying. 

902
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,680
You know what I mean. 
He. 

903
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,720
Definitely doesn't look as 
smooth, no. 

904
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,840
I saw the photos of him doing 
the shoot with the belt and I'm 

905
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,720
just like, what happened, man, 
with the aura go, you know, but 

906
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,920
he's Pantoja is one of the most 
fantastic fighters on the 

907
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,760
roster. 9 and O against the top 
ten in the flyweight division. 

908
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Like that's bananas, right? 
And I think for the UFC brass, 

909
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,560
they looked at 1:25 and we're 
like, we don't have fucking 

910
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,680
anybody that he can fight. 
So that's why Earthsec kind of 

911
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,000
got fast pass to the title shot 
shot and earned that shot. 

912
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,360
Then Kai's coming in and 
debuting for a title shot. 

913
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,160
I love it because it's insane. 
No other division, you see this 

914
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,000
type of movement and 
opportunity. 

915
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,400
So you know, if you're a 130 
fiver, try and find those extra 

916
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,640
10 lbs because you could you you
could see yourself fighting for 

917
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,960
a belt in 12 months, right? 
Right, right. 

918
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,840
It's kind of crazy. 
Yeah. 

919
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Especially because. 
I mean what, he's Owen or two in

920
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,120
O against Rory Val, right? 
2IN O against Rory Val. 3IN O 

921
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,000
against Moreno, yeah, there's 
really no one else. 

922
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,520
He's just lapped the division 
multiple times already at the OR

923
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,280
at least the two guys at the top
right, I mean. 

924
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,000
Figgy's the only guy that's 
beaten him in the last couple 

925
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,200
years, right? 
And now obviously Davison's at 

926
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,240
bantamweight. 
So if if coming off the loss to 

927
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,160
Jan, if I'm Figgy, I'd go well, 
maybe I'll test the the 

928
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,280
flyweight waters again. 
I think it might be impossible 

929
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,880
for him to get down there, but 
you know when you're the last 

930
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,000
guy to beat the champ. 
Do you think he gets an instant 

931
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,840
shot if he was to go back down 
to flyweight? 

932
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,800
I don't know if he'd get an 
instant shot necessarily, but if

933
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,400
he was like, hey, give me 
Brandon Moreno, right? 

934
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:29,320
Moreno Figgy again for the 5th 
time, who knows? 

935
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,800
I it's the problem is Fig. 
He's also beating so many guys 

936
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,840
in the. 
I would watch that though. 

937
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,320
I watch it. 
I watch it, Moreno. 

938
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,880
Again. 
Yeah, Are you? 

939
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,200
You gotta get to 125, man. 
You shave off, Yeah. 

940
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Listen, I'm, I'm, I'm struggling
with my weight right now. 

941
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,560
All I all I eat is fucking 
ground beef and fucking steak 

942
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,680
and lift weights. 
Just meat, baby. 

943
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,440
Just meat. 
I'm on a all meat diet. 

944
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,640
Pause. 
No ditty, you know, no, no 

945
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,920
Thailand. 
But yeah, man, some of these, 

946
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,400
some of these dudes cut a 
fucking tremendous amount of 

947
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,080
weight and it's really 
incredible. 

948
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,880
Like just like dude, how, how 
are you not that you know to 

949
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,720
make those weight classes? 
What's the most weight you've 

950
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,240
got? 
The most I I cut 14 lbs on an 

951
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:16,360
airplane on a 30 hour notice 
fight one time, you know what I 

952
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,360
mean? 
I started to like kind of pass 

953
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,840
out in the fucking Uber, you 
know, and to. 

954
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,240
The way it's in. 
You're dying in the Uber to the 

955
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:24,120
weight. 
Yeah. 

956
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,760
And I'm like, hey, I'm going to 
just lay on the floor next to 

957
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,320
the scale and then just let me 
know when I can weigh in. 

958
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,520
And then I just like stood on 
the scale for a little bit and. 

959
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Then Jesus. 
Right. 

960
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Yeah, that one. 
That one was a tricky one. 

961
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,240
This last fight that I cut all 
the weight for, I cut down to 55

962
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,960
and I, I've been lifting so I'm 
getting a little bigger and I 

963
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,680
was 7524 hours after and I was 
still rehydrating and eating. 

964
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,320
So I put £20 back on. 
And then the guy acted like a 

965
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,280
vagina and pulled out of the 
fight when we were the main 

966
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,720
event for the title. 
But I looked that man dead in 

967
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,120
his eyes and he knew I was going
to bounce his head off that red 

968
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,240
canvas. 
So he did the right thing. 

969
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,840
By he's got a family, you know 
what I mean? 

970
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,680
He saved himself the brain 
trauma, he saved himself the 

971
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,440
embarrassment in front of all 
his friends. 

972
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,920
You know, he has to live with 
the fact that he knows that he's

973
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,320
a pussy and he and I know it. 
But aside from that man, you 

974
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,560
know, it's not for everybody. 
So he was the main event. 

975
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,120
He was the champion. 
It was his hometown. 

976
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,280
I flew out. 
I cut the weight, you know. 

977
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:30,800
And but yeah, that one, that one
was probably a quick little 20 

978
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,640
in a few days. 
That's rough. 

979
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,960
Where'd you have to fly for that
one? 

980
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,080
That was Oklahoma, Oklahoma and 
so so this gentleman is a big 

981
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,400
time tickle ticket seller. 
This gentleman is a big time 

982
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:48,480
ticket seller in Oklahoma. 
And I pulled up and he's 40 

983
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,600
years old. 
So they had asked for somebody 

984
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,840
over the age of 35 to fight him.
So they thought they were 

985
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,280
getting a decrepit dude for this
dude to sell tickets and sell 

986
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,360
merch and beat up. 
And then they put the belt on 

987
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,920
him and I showed up and I got 
fucking nose to nose and toes to

988
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,560
toes with the dude. 
And I was looking. 

989
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,720
And so when I'm at the fucking 
weigh in and I'm fucking staring

990
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,920
the dude down, I'm looking at 
him like I just, I have visions.

991
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,240
Like I have like hydraulic arms 
and then I'm like Nightcrawler 

992
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:19,960
and I can just disappear. 
Oh man, I just visualize myself 

993
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,480
breaking his face and his 
fucking head exploding. 

994
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,160
So I'm making it his in his eyes
like that. 

995
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,280
And he's sitting there thinking,
am I going to make it home for 

996
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:27,880
dinner? 
Yeah. 

997
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Exactly see my children. 
And then he went and sat in the 

998
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,320
corner and I'm still looking at 
him. 

999
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,400
I'm hyping my dude thinks he can
fucking fight me. 

1000
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,160
He had me fly to fucking 
Oklahoma. 

1001
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,280
He thinks he's going to 
embarrass me. 

1002
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,160
He made. 
Me. 

1003
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,160
Come to Oklahoma. 
Fucking. 

1004
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,640
My fucking elbows through his 
head. 

1005
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,760
I'm like looking at him like, 
dude, fucking look at me, bro, 

1006
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960
you know what I mean? 
And I'm like ready to scrap him.

1007
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,440
I get, I get intense, right? 
And he looks over at me and he's

1008
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,720
like, hey, hey, man, I'm not 
staring at you. 

1009
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,560
I I, I just forgot my glasses so
I can't see. 

1010
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,160
And I was like, oh man. 
I'm going to beat. 

1011
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Up an old man I was like I'm. 43
at the time, so I'm. 

1012
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Older than he is, right? 
I mean, but like I'm like 25, 

1013
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,280
you know what I'm saying? 
Like I got youthful energy right

1014
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,880
I. 
Got 10 XL. 10 XL, I got the best

1015
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,920
fucking cardio in the gym, you 
know what I mean? 

1016
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,160
And so in my head, I'm like, 
dude, this guy's head's getting 

1017
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,440
bounced. 
I'm I'm the refs going to have 

1018
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,760
to pull me off. 
And I think he felt that energy,

1019
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Yeah. 
That's crazy. 

1020
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,680
I cut 8 lbs for I mean that was 
I was like was that? 

1021
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,320
Your biggest cut? 
Biggest cut, only cut I've ever 

1022
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,920
done. 
Yeah. 

1023
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,760
And it was, it wasn't that bad. 
I mean, I did sweat suit and 

1024
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,440
then we do 45 minute run, go do 
like 3 rounds on the pads and 

1025
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,320
then get in a little sauna. 
Did it like an afternoon. 

1026
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,800
But that was the first time I 
was like, shit, I got to 

1027
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520
actually cut, you know, I felt 
interesting. 

1028
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,560
To restrict carbs or anything 
like that. 

1029
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,880
I eat what I want. 
I did. 

1030
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,320
I mean, I had healthy like, you 
know, there was a TGI Friday's 

1031
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,520
next to the hotel and so I was 
getting like tea. 

1032
00:44:58,720 --> 00:44:59,560
Chicken. 
Breast. 

1033
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:01,560
I was getting broccoli some 
rice, you know. 

1034
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,960
Weight cutting tips would ban 
the bane Davis. 

1035
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,720
Guys go to TGI Friday. 
That does bring the question, 

1036
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,080
when is your next fight, David? 
So we got Fight Circus coming up

1037
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,320
in March, which is a whole 
logistical thing, so it's fine. 

1038
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Finally we got a date in March 
and that's happened at the 

1039
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Palms. 
But I told my manager, I said, 

1040
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,040
listen man, the answer is yes, 
bro. 

1041
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,720
I don't need to know their 
record. 

1042
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,520
I don't need to know their 
fighting style. 

1043
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,400
I don't need to know who they 
are or where they're from. 

1044
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,560
Forge my signature on the 
contract and tell me where to 

1045
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,160
show up. 
I will show up on weight and 

1046
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,360
ready to send my my shin through
any man on the planet's 

1047
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,000
forehead. 
I love it. 

1048
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,480
That's actually a great answer, 
but yeah, right. 

1049
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,600
So yeah, I got no fight right 
now, so. 

1050
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,400
Not yet. 
Would you do? 

1051
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,200
Something before March or do. 
Something before March. 

1052
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,480
Do something today, yesterday, 
tomorrow, next week, last week. 

1053
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,880
The answer's yes. 
Ben, did you not just hear what 

1054
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,760
I? 
Said I did. 

1055
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,000
The answer's yes bro. 
Yeah. 

1056
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,280
But that doesn't mess anything 
up with Fight Circus for you. 

1057
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,000
No, I mean I'll, I'll scrap 
three times before March and 

1058
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,520
then still go to fight circus, 
shake my Dick and have a fucking

1059
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,360
pro fight afterwards, you know? 
Listen I'm listen bro, I love 

1060
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,080
life. 
You know what I mean? 

1061
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,520
So I'm not. 
Looking at it like it's like, 

1062
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,240
oh, I got to fight and I'm like,
dude, I get to fight. 

1063
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,800
I get to get locked in a cage 
with another dude and send my 

1064
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,040
fists, elbows, knees and shins 
out his head and they're not 

1065
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,120
going to take me to jail, bro, 
let's go. 

1066
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,600
It's dude. 
We're so we're so like 

1067
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,880
domesticated in real life, you 
know what I mean? 

1068
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,320
And then like in the cage, you 
get to be an animal. 

1069
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,760
And I'm like, dude, I get to. 
So we're spiritual, we're 

1070
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,360
physical and we're mental, 
right? 

1071
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,040
And so in, in the, in the 
physical world, we're doing this

1072
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,120
and we're like talking. 
And then in cage you get to be 

1073
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,600
like. 
You know what I mean? 

1074
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,320
You just like snort and growl 
and call them dude all kinds of 

1075
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,480
derogatory names while you're 
elbowing him and like I'm going 

1076
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,520
to knock you out in front of 
your mother bro. 

1077
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,720
Fucking listen to your corner 
posture up and he postures up. 

1078
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,600
You put your fucking stand up. 
And gun a head. 

1079
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,320
Kick at him again and you just 
see the panic set in his eyes 

1080
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,520
and you're like, dude, he's 
going to shoot again. 

1081
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,000
This fucking pussy ass panic 
wrestler. 

1082
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:22,320
I'm going to butcher him. 
And that's like a very, very, 

1083
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,840
very, very good feeling to have.
And I love that feeling. 

1084
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,840
And I'll, I just, I'm so 
grateful I get to fight. 

1085
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,760
So that's that's where my head's
at. 

1086
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,280
That's why some people are made 
to be fighters. 

1087
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,320
This is King David was fucking 
built to be a fighter. 

1088
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,040
You know this. 
Is you talk about that 

1089
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,040
animalistic thing and the guy 
Igor right the the UFC fighter 

1090
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,280
who was taking down a turn a bit
old boy. 

1091
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:44,080
Right. 
Yeah. 

1092
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,880
How do you blame him? 
He. 

1093
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Went a little too far. 
He got a little too lost in the 

1094
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,120
sauce on that one, you know? 
Yeah, yeah, sometimes. 

1095
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,640
Sometimes it gets a little crazy
in there. 

1096
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,320
I mean, I've had my eyes raked, 
you know, I've had people stick,

1097
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,120
like thumbs into stuff. 
You know, one time this dude, 

1098
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,360
little steroid head, right, he 
was picking me up in the air and

1099
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,840
I'm like elbow in his head. 
And then after the fight, I'm 

1100
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,640
like, dude, my elbow's so 
fucking sore right now. 

1101
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,840
I'm like, what is that? 
I was like, oh, that's from 

1102
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,720
elbowing him. 
And then I was like, dude, 

1103
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,960
imagine what his head feels like
right now. 

1104
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,200
And I went in the back and he's 
just like slumped against the 

1105
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,520
wall and his head's wrapped up 
like a turban with. 

1106
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Ice. 
And he just looks like he looks 

1107
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,680
like a fucking pumpkin head at 
this point. 

1108
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,480
He's got like like welts all 
over his face. 

1109
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,320
And I'm just like, dude, I 
turned that man into walk 

1110
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,760
pumpkin, let's go. 
It's not even. 

1111
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,640
Halloween. 
I was spamming leg kicks, right?

1112
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,800
And I could not walk. 
My foot was swollen like a 

1113
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,400
fucking softball. 
I'm in the back. 

1114
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Like fuck, I'm such a bitch. 
I'm such a bitch. 

1115
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,040
He comes walking into the back 
with crutches and then some 

1116
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,840
people like pick them off a 
crutch and they're carrying him 

1117
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,040
in. 
He couldn't walk because his leg

1118
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,200
was so jacked up. 
Is that the? 

1119
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,960
Part that they don't see, right?
They don't see you like, dude, 

1120
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,320
my foot is damaged from fucking 
that guy up. 

1121
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:54,640
And that guy is like headed to 
the hospital because he can't 

1122
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,120
get on an airplane, because 
he'll get compartment syndrome 

1123
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,960
in his leg because his leg's so 
damaged that he can't fly on. 

1124
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,840
He'll get a blood. 
Clot yeah, and and like a lot of

1125
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,120
people don't realize that, that 
that there's like consequences, 

1126
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,320
right. 
It looks like hey, we got bright

1127
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,040
lights and like there's ring 
girls and everybody's happy. 

1128
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Hey cheering It's like dude in 
the back man there there's like 

1129
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,320
blood and tears and dudes crying
and people puking on the floor 

1130
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:24,280
and like a guy got kicked in the
nuts last night and and he I was

1131
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,360
concerned. 
I thought they popped a 

1132
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,160
testicle, bro. 
It was so this dude was like, 

1133
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,040
I'm not, I'm not putting him on 
blast. 

1134
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,720
I'm not judging him. 
I don't know what he was 

1135
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:37,440
spitting. 
OK, so he's a cage fighter. 

1136
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,320
He's physically crying from the 
pain. 

1137
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,840
So I'm like, maybe his nut got 
caught in the tie cup in the tie

1138
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,120
cup crushed it when he got 
kicked and it it was brutal, 

1139
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,200
bro. 
The dudes in the back just like 

1140
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,200
like basically vomiting from a 
nut kick. 

1141
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,000
Which is like when when you see 
those incidents play out and you

1142
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,840
know how tough fighters are to 
get them to that point. 

1143
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,640
That's why I always say that's 
real. 

1144
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,240
Like very few times is someone 
faking it right or playing up an

1145
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,800
injury or a foul. 
Like more often than not, it 

1146
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,440
genuinely, it's just like, these
are the toughest sons of bitches

1147
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,080
in the world and that's the most
painful fucking thing that you 

1148
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,160
can experience. 
So like I, I, I was sitting 

1149
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,560
there with you last night and it
was down for minutes and minutes

1150
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,120
and minutes. 
And I'm just like, I'm just 

1151
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,040
like, I empathize with that man.
That sucks. 

1152
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,240
I've never damaged someone 
enough to so have these 

1153
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:28,160
experiences. 
See. 

1154
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,680
Ben's a better person, worse 
than me when it when it bends. 

1155
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,680
Like I empathize. 
And when I saw him get kicked in

1156
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,520
the nuts and he couldn't get up.
I'm not saying this is the right

1157
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,640
thing to do. 
I'm just saying this is what I 

1158
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,720
did. 
I yelled. 

1159
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:43,200
Small injury. 
You Dick head. 

1160
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,320
And this was. 
In front of the the like the 

1161
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,720
peppermint hippo girls and yeah,
you know, and dude. 

1162
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:48,800
'S mom is right there. 
He turns. 

1163
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,720
Around what is wrong with you 
and I'm just like. 

1164
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,320
OK, I said that out loud, All 
right, So anyway, and then it. 

1165
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,600
Turns out the dude's really 
injured. 

1166
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,080
And now I'm an asshole. 
Right. 

1167
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,200
So yeah, that was that was the 
nut shot it. 

1168
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,320
Reminds me of that fight of the 
the two heavyweights. 

1169
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,240
Old boy kicks him in the in the 
in the groin and then the other 

1170
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,120
dude lands in an overhanded. 
PFL fight. 

1171
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Yeah, yeah, that's an that was 
an amazing type of the best PFL 

1172
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,800
highlight of all time. 
You know what I mean? 

1173
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Yeah, the the PFL has ever had 
it. 

1174
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,600
Epitomizes the organization. 
Or there's a simultaneous nut 

1175
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,920
shot and a overhand that knocks 
someone down. 

1176
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,960
I'm just like. 
What do you make of that with a 

1177
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,000
lot of the PFL or Bellator guys,
excuse me, coming out and 

1178
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,920
saying, you know, they've been 
struggling to get fights 

1179
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,800
throughout the year and. 
Well Patchy Mix is the best 

1180
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,440
fighter in the world. 
He's currently signed a Bellator

1181
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,080
and he needs a fight. 
The the best guy in the world in

1182
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,880
his prime and he's not fighting.
It's it's crazy. 

1183
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:47,480
So listen, I hope Bellator gets 
him 100 fights and if not, let 

1184
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,200
him go to where he can flourish 
because everybody that trains 

1185
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,640
with Patchy will agree Patchy's 
the best person on the planet. 

1186
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,800
Well, I mean, we've have you 
seen him grapple with Rob? 

1187
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,720
Listen, what what happens in the
gym stays in the gym. 

1188
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:06,960
So I've got no comment on that 
subject matter, but I'm just 

1189
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,280
saying that Patchy's a bad 
motherfucker, dude, Listen, No, 

1190
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:10,880
no, no. 
No. 

1191
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,280
No. 
What's the real though like? 

1192
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,240
And, and stylistically things 
are different, right? 

1193
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:17,800
I train with both of them. 
I'm bigger than both of them. 

1194
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,400
Patchy fucks me up, bro. 
It it it like keeps me up at 

1195
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,120
night, you know what I mean? 
I'm like this dude, I outweigh 

1196
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,680
this dude and he's balling me up
and I'm just like, he's my like 

1197
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,120
inspiration to get better at 
martial arts. 

1198
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,800
I'm like, dude, if he's doing it
like like I, it's warnable, you 

1199
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,400
know? 
And so that's how I, I approach 

1200
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:37,880
it. 
So yeah. 

1201
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,440
And. 
That's why it that's and that is

1202
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,360
why it magnifies how frustrating
it is to see him get iced and 

1203
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,640
put on the shelf. 
Same thing with Pitbull, right? 

1204
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,920
The GOAT of Bellator sitting 
there going I can't get a 

1205
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,440
fucking fight. 
That's ridiculous. 

1206
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,920
That cat sacrificed so much for 
that company and now in the 

1207
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,280
final frames of his career, 
instead of getting these 

1208
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,720
glorious moments to go out on a 
high note or have some 

1209
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:02,720
competitive last couple 
matchups, he's getting nothing 

1210
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,880
right. 
You know, and that's I just 

1211
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,440
Leandro. 
He goes same situation. 

1212
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,200
Let's. 
Talk to one of the Saudi Arabian

1213
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,240
sheiks to throw him some money 
or something, you know what I 

1214
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,040
mean? 
Like, yo, Saudi Princess, can 

1215
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,560
you send Bellator some money so 
they could pay these guys to 

1216
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,280
fight right now, I think. 
The thing is because. 

1217
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,040
What's the issue dude? 
They do fight, I think. 

1218
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,240
They already have that link up 
with the Middle East. 

1219
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,880
Obviously they do those shows in
Riyadh and and the, I think the 

1220
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,560
big problem with the PFL right 
now is there is a issue of 

1221
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,200
overextending themselves. 
You've got PFL MENA, you've got 

1222
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,680
PFL Europe, you've got the 
Global League. 

1223
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,080
And then when you're trying to 
simultaneously run Bellator, 

1224
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,960
shit slips through the cracks. 
And unfortunately this year that

1225
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,280
has been Bellator, they've had 
what, 3 cancelled events? 

1226
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,680
3 cancelled events? 
Come on. 

1227
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,080
So we're talking about dozens of
athletes that have been in fight

1228
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,280
camp, really slave in a way for 
these opportunities to advance 

1229
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,480
themselves. 
And then it just gets wiped off 

1230
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,560
the calendar and you don't see 
consequences. 

1231
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,160
And that's what frustrates me 
the most. 

1232
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,200
You get nothing from the 
organization in terms of 

1233
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,000
transparency, in terms of a 
accountability at times. 

1234
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Look at that instance with Diane
Silva. 

1235
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:08,160
Diane Silva was cutting weight 
for a Bellator London card, I 

1236
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,720
think goes into a coma. 
And then from what I understand,

1237
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:15,040
and I could be wrong, I want to 
put that out there, could not 

1238
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,000
have all the facts right. 
But from what I understand, what

1239
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,600
I saw, there was a bit of trying
to control the narrative and 

1240
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,200
suppress that story from getting
out. 

1241
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,760
And so when you have a fighter 
in a coma and your reaction 

1242
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,360
isn't taking fucking care of 
them to the best of their 

1243
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,080
ability, and PFL did 
retroactively brought one of her

1244
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,400
teammates out, took care of the 
medical expenses, that was great

1245
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,600
to see. 
I'd like to see that. 

1246
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,720
I should have seen that first. 
I should have seen that first. 

1247
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,560
I shouldn't have seen people 
going, man, they're suppressing 

1248
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,160
XY and Z. 
That's awful. 

1249
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,440
That's a terrible look if that's
true, right? 

1250
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,720
And so if people are writing 
these articles and creating this

1251
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,600
content about your organization,
fucking with someone that's 

1252
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,400
currently in a coma, bad PR. 
And I think that's the whole 

1253
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,880
last couple months last year is 
bad PR. 

1254
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,640
You know, they just had their 
big night, the the richest night

1255
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,920
in combat sports, millions and 
millions of dollars being given 

1256
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,080
out. 
Now a week later, nobody cares. 

1257
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,920
Everyone's moved on to the next.
Thing yeah so so Bellator's got 

1258
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,160
its challenges and people hate 
on Dana White. 

1259
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,840
Oh, fighter pay. 
Listen, Dana's shows go on. 

1260
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,200
They like they got the guys got 
a well oiled machine. 

1261
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,600
Like if they say you're 
fighting, you're fighting these 

1262
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,920
other organizations can't even 
do they're giving out millions 

1263
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,800
of dollars and then they're 
canceling shows and you don't 

1264
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,560
know if you're going to be a 
millionaire or a homeless 

1265
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,000
person. 
Like imagine the life you're 

1266
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,880
you're starving, you're cutting 
weight, you're training every 

1267
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,320
day. 
Every day you're getting into 

1268
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,000
seven to 10 fist fights with the
best dudes on the planet, 

1269
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,240
beating people up, getting your 
ass beat. 

1270
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,640
Fucking I got an injury this I 
got to fight in two weeks, but 

1271
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,640
my fucking finger don't bend. 
You're like, bro, everything, my

1272
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,880
back, my knee. 
Oh, I think I tore my knee, but 

1273
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,160
I got to go fight anyway. 
Oh, I got a staph infection. 

1274
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,680
Should I tell the team or like, 
there's all this crazy shit 

1275
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,200
that's happening to fighters and
then these other organizations 

1276
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,360
can't even keep their fights 
going. 

1277
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,480
And then people got the audacity
to complain about Dana, dude, 

1278
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,160
Dana's, Dana's setting the 
example for everybody else. 

1279
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:14,440
Like, dude, whatever they're 
doing, model that. 

1280
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,160
And I think that's, that's The 
thing is the season format just 

1281
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,720
isn't working at this point. 
It was a great gimmick, I think 

1282
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,640
to get interest and 
differentiate. 

1283
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,240
I think it was, I think it was. 
I think there there's a way that

1284
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,480
it can work. 
It needs to be modified 

1285
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,320
severely. 
I think Luke Thomas or somebody 

1286
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,200
said this, they were like, 
listen, they should just pick 

1287
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,880
one weight Class A year, do that
tournament for that weight class

1288
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,760
and have that be that. 
And then everything else on the 

1289
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,920
cards. 
All the other events are just 

1290
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,720
maybe traditional one versus 1 
and normal MMA. 

1291
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,840
But you know, Bellator did Grand
Prix to, I would say pretty 

1292
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,920
successful levels, you know, and
they were exciting and, and fun 

1293
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,960
to watch and usually stayed 
together. 

1294
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,600
But the the problem is when your
whole shtick revolves around 

1295
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,880
this season format. 
And there's not really a lot of 

1296
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,400
clarity on how these people are 
getting matched up for the 

1297
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,280
quarterfinals or those first 
matchups, right? 

1298
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,880
This kind of unknown. 
And then you're mixing things up

1299
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,200
in the semis. 
Natanz Schultz beating Haush 

1300
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,560
Manfiel and then getting 
disqualified by being boring and

1301
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,440
Shane Burgos getting pumped in 
despite not having enough points

1302
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,040
to have been in that position in
the 1st place. 

1303
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,480
But there goes the legitimacy, 
there goes the integrity, there 

1304
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,680
goes the season format. 
The most fair type of league 

1305
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,240
compromised their own intention 
with that right. 

1306
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,680
So it's just weird. 
I, I think that there's a lot of

1307
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,600
great people at the PFL. 
They have so many smart 

1308
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,800
individuals. 
But my thing is again, 

1309
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,000
overextending PFL, men of PFL 
Europe global league, you have 

1310
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,520
to pick, sit and excel, crush 
it. 

1311
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,840
And you know, you say you want 
to be the Co leader in this 

1312
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,960
space. 
You don't want to be the number 

1313
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,440
2, then you got to concentrate 
and unfortunately this year it's

1314
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,920
come at the expense of the Bell 
Tour fighters. 

1315
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,480
Yeah, and so so I've been 
backstage. 

1316
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,560
My ex-girlfriend used to fight 
for the PFL. 

1317
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,400
And so I've learned two things 
about the PFL 1. 

1318
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,320
I had a great experience. 
They were super organized. 

1319
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,360
You know that event went on, 
right? 

1320
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,400
So I don't know about these 
other events that aren't going 

1321
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,760
on. 
I just know that everything was 

1322
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880
professional. 
And two, Kayla Harrison is buff 

1323
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,920
as shit. 
That's the thing I'll learn. 

1324
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,240
I think she's kind of sexy, but 
I like fit women, right? 

1325
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,800
Because. 
You know a. 

1326
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,920
Fire. 
Hydrant, you know? 

1327
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,600
Yeah. 
But like, I'm like, you know, I,

1328
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,200
I start wondering, like, I think
I could wear her out though, you

1329
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,040
know? 
What I mean like you're saying? 

1330
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,080
Alright if I go under a year and
she's. 

1331
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,160
A hit caughtcher. 
Yeah, Hey girl, you ever been 

1332
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,120
out to dinner with a man in a 
reindeer onesie? 

1333
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,120
You know what I mean? 
So yeah. 

1334
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,360
So those are the two things I 
learned about PFL. 

1335
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:33,840
She's. 
Great man. 

1336
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,240
Kayla is is such a phenomenal 
athlete. 

1337
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,360
She's. 
Lost a lot of weight though, 

1338
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,680
man, it's like a little less 
fire hydranty, you know what I 

1339
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,000
mean? 
I'm. 

1340
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,360
I'm I'm. 
I'm starting to lose. 

1341
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,960
Interest. 
I'm like girl, like do some 

1342
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,560
fucking deadlifts, get some 
squats in there or something, 

1343
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,640
you know what I mean? 
I like, I like bunk, I mean. 

1344
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,320
On the bunk There is no world in
which Kayla Harrison doesn't 

1345
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,320
become the UFC bantamweight 
champion. 

1346
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,880
That's what they asked. 
There's no way she doesn't win. 

1347
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,960
She looks. 
So dominant. 

1348
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,320
Too dominant and Juliana Pena 
getting the title shot after 

1349
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,680
being 5043 by Amanda Nunez, 
taking what was it 18 months off

1350
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,360
and then walking right back into
that title shot with Raquel 

1351
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,840
Pennington. 
Not really doing fantastic in my

1352
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,400
opinion. 
Was a competitive fight, but I 

1353
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,840
had Raquel and then getting on 
the microphone afterwards, 

1354
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,600
calling out Amanda, saying 
Amanda's ducking her. 

1355
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,240
Listen, there's good heels in 
this business. 

1356
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,480
There's people that know how to 
operate and maneuver on a 

1357
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:26,680
microphone. 
Thank you. 

1358
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,720
I appreciate that. 
And there's people that don't. 

1359
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,560
And I think Juliana Pena is, is 
is an example of someone who 

1360
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,640
tries very hard. 
And I love the effort and I love

1361
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,960
the attempt, but but sometimes 
she misses the mark. 

1362
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,840
And when you have Kayla Harrison
right there on the same card who

1363
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,360
just put on a great display, 
who's the most deserving 

1364
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,480
contender, and you're calling 
out someone who retired a while 

1365
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,880
ago that 5043, do you most 
recently to me, that doesn't 

1366
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,640
make sense. 
To me, that's missing the mark. 

1367
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,560
And I don't know. 
So you would like to see her 

1368
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,600
call out Kayla? 
Oh, yeah, that would have made 

1369
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,560
sense. 
I think the fan base would have 

1370
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,880
gravitated around because they 
would have gone. 

1371
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,760
Thank you, Juliana. 
Thank you for calling out the 

1372
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,120
most deserving person, for 
calling out a badass who just 

1373
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,040
had a great performance saying 
give me that. 

1374
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,360
Give me the smoke instead of 
saying. 

1375
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,880
I want the retired person that 
beat me up and 5043 of me. 

1376
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,920
That's who I want because 
they're running for me. 

1377
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,840
And so let me ask you this. 
You would say that the Kayla 

1378
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,600
fight is a bigger pay-per-view 
draw than getting Amanda out of 

1379
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,600
retirement. 
That's not what I was saying at 

1380
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,600
all. 
Because, because if we're 

1381
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,560
looking at it from a financial 
aspect, if she could drag a 

1382
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,840
let's, let's say hypothetically 
speaking, she believes both of 

1383
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,320
these matchups are bad matchups 
for her, right? 

1384
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,360
Which one am I going to get paid
and ride off into the sunset? 

1385
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,080
If you're going at it from a 
business sense, probably the 

1386
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,360
amount of Nunez one, but I think
the likelihood of that occurring

1387
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,800
is very slim, right. 
So then you play in this realm 

1388
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,440
of I get. 
So she's going to get Kayla 

1389
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,600
anyway, right? 
We might as well build it. 

1390
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,600
Exactly, you might as well not 
no sell the number one 

1391
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,640
contender, right and then defuse
interest by virtue of your 

1392
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,640
actions. 
I get completely like the 

1393
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,440
business side of it. 
The financial side of it should 

1394
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,240
always be the priority. 
But if the business side of it 

1395
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,840
eclipse what is realistic and 
what's what's in reality, then 

1396
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,760
you just look dumb. 
And again, you've got this very 

1397
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,560
deserving contender who does 
have a lot of hype. 

1398
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,360
Kayla Harrison has a lot of 
hype, right, Kayla? 

1399
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,760
Harrison I mean, well deserved. 
You know this is a bad mother. 

1400
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,840
On gold medalist, multi time PFL
champ, now the number one 

1401
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,080
contender at 135. 
Like. 

1402
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,640
Single mom. 
You know what I'm? 

1403
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,600
Saying do it, no. 
For real, though, she's doing 

1404
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,080
her thing, Doc. 
No, for real. 

1405
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,120
Like some of these dudes are 
like, hey man, I do this, that 

1406
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,200
and that. 
I'm like, there's people out 

1407
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,960
here raising kids. 
There was there's a. 

1408
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Chick from China in the UFC 
that's like hey she make she 

1409
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,680
make a doctor too. 
Let's go. 

1410
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,120
Like what bro? 
You're just like a doctor. 

1411
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,960
Your side quest is like to go. 
Snap through she fighter like 

1412
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,600
I'm all aboard the she main 
train, baby. 

1413
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,560
Yeah, give me more. 
She makes she's insane. 

1414
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,800
She's amazing. 
But yeah, I don't, I don't know.

1415
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Those are my thoughts on that. 
Talking about picking fights for

1416
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,800
career, for legacy, for money, 
what do you think about the 

1417
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,720
whole Jon Jones, Tom Asmol 
situation? 

1418
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,600
Is it looks like it's going to 
be put together now, right? 

1419
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,800
Jon Jones is the baddest man on 
the planet. 

1420
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,600
Listen, for real. 
My uncle's Hulk Hogan, OK? 

1421
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,360
And at one point they brought in
Ultimate Warrior and my uncle 

1422
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,760
was like, dude, I get that 
Warrior's hot, but he's a flash 

1423
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,440
in the pan, an RIP Warrior, 
right? 

1424
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,520
But my uncle was right. 
The second that they put the 

1425
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,360
belt on Warrior, Warrior came 
and was asking for $1,000,000 in

1426
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,240
appearance or something crazy, 
right? 

1427
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,720
And then he lost being hot, he 
lost his popularity and they put

1428
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,080
the belt back on Hulk. 
So it's similar to this. 

1429
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,800
John Jones has beat up everybody
that's ever been put in front of

1430
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,440
them. 
And it's like we have a new up 

1431
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,440
and coming to Contender. 
He's like, dude, I beat fucking 

1432
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,520
twenty of those dudes. 
I beat legends. 

1433
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,440
I beat every flash in the pan 
that you brought up. 

1434
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,920
I beat guys that you were like, 
oh, that was a close fight. 

1435
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,440
And then that guy goes on and 
loses fights right after it. 

1436
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,400
It's like, dude, Jon Jones is 
the absolute GOAT. 

1437
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,400
I think he smokes Tom Aspinall, 
despite what anybody says. 

1438
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,200
I don't give a flying fuck, bro.
It it's it's like, that's cool 

1439
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,880
that that Tom's got fast feet. 
You know what I mean? 

1440
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,760
He's got good footwork, but I 
just think that Jon Jones is a 

1441
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,680
complex puzzle. 
Who this last fight he finished 

1442
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,760
with a turning sidekick. 
He drilled that turning sidekick

1443
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,960
3 hours a week for six months, 
you know what I mean? 

1444
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,600
Like he's dedicated, so. 
He could do all the blow he 

1445
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,160
wants. 
He could go out and have a 

1446
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:23,600
couple of drinks or whiskey or 
whatever he likes, proper 12 or 

1447
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,120
a howler head, whatever he 
prefers. 

1448
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,160
He could do whatever he wants. 
But if he's in there and he's 

1449
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,440
drilling the turning sidekick, 
he's an athletic talent that's 

1450
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,760
able to go hit that under the 
lights. 

1451
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,960
And the biggest the president's 
right here and he's he's doing 

1452
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,720
moves that he just practiced in 
the gym. 

1453
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,120
And then he hit the president of
this dancing perfect timing with

1454
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,400
the point, and then the thumbs 
up with it. 

1455
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,200
Then put the belt on. 
Incredible. 

1456
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,840
That night could not have gone 
better for Jon Jones, right? 

1457
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,320
For could not have gone better 
for, for America, for the United

1458
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,080
States. 
We need a job. 

1459
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,040
RFKS you're in the background 
standard. 

1460
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,880
There perfect. 
RFKS out there with a six pack 

1461
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,080
about to do some calisthenics. 
He's getting hyped up. 

1462
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,600
He's a worm in his. 
Brain doing, you know. 

1463
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,200
I'm getting I'm. 
Getting. 

1464
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,960
I'm getting no, I think I see 
both sides of it so. 

1465
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,480
I'm like, oh, he's so, he's so 
composed and so professional. 

1466
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,160
And then he hits. 
Back and like, yeah, so John, 

1467
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,400
what? 
John Jones is in many ways the 

1468
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,840
greatest of all time, right? 
I think that is the consensus 

1469
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,480
opinion and there's a few ways 
of looking at it and filtering 

1470
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:30,600
it. 
And you might have someone has 

1471
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,160
your top spot if you care about 
this, that or the other. 

1472
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,480
But like what he's done in the 
sport, like you said, it's 

1473
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,320
ridiculous taking out all these 
top guys for so many years. 

1474
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:44,040
My thing was, you know, the 
serial gone fight, we saw the 

1475
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,280
blueprint with Francis and Gano.
So John, great, excellent win #1

1476
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,400
contender. 
I loved it. 

1477
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,640
I want to see more of him at 
265, right? 

1478
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,760
And then the pectoral injury 
happened and I think that's 

1479
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,360
that's where things get split 
for me because right, he would 

1480
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,280
have faced steep a, gotten steep
a out of the way. 

1481
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,680
And then I'm sure that the Tom 
Aspen matchup would have had a 

1482
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,080
lot more justification. 
But then the tear happens. 

1483
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,800
But they were. 
Also talking about Sergey back, 

1484
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,720
you know what I mean? 
And then it's like, oh, that was

1485
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,200
the guy that was going to get 
Jon Jones. 

1486
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,720
And now that's like, who even 
thought that? 

1487
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,840
It's like, dude, everybody was 
saying that, right? 

1488
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:18,960
And it's. 
It's what happens. 

1489
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,640
It's always what happens, I 
think. 

1490
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,800
I think for. 
I think Tom, I mean I think Jon 

1491
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,960
Jones can shoot in on Tom 
Aspinall and if he gets stuffed,

1492
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,720
I believe John Jones is so good 
and so dedicated he can pull 

1493
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,160
guard and submit Tom Aspinall 
from his back. 

1494
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,200
He threw a what? 
Was that rampage he threw up a 

1495
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,920
flying triangle on? 
Yeah, bro, he dude, come on. 

1496
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,520
I don't know. 
I don't see John Jones beating 

1497
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,200
Tom Aspinall. 
No, bro. 

1498
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,320
I don't and that's and and we 
can differ on that we're. 

1499
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,200
We're gonna bet 10 body shots on
that. 

1500
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,120
You know what I mean? 
How is it not the kind of time 

1501
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,120
we're I'm talking about my fists
punching each other. 

1502
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:54,760
We. 
Can do that? 

1503
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:55,600
We can. 
Bet 10 body. 

1504
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,160
Shots not any man on man 
drinking out each other's belly.

1505
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,400
Buttons or whatever. 
We. 

1506
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,040
Whatever. 
Whatever you and just do like. 

1507
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,880
Ten shots to kill off you and. 
This person loses. 

1508
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,600
John Jones loses and I'm gonna 
drink 10 shots out your belly 

1509
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:09,920
button, bro. 
You know what I mean? 

1510
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,560
I think John, like what do you? 
Think that fight looks like. 

1511
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,960
So John put on a master class 
against Stipe. 

1512
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,400
He was in control the entire 
time. 

1513
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,400
Driver's seat, every single 
round, every single exchange 

1514
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,600
even. 
I mean, Stipe had a little bit 

1515
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,880
of success, but man, John looked
tremendous in there. 

1516
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,440
The thing is, it's either going 
to be like how every Tom 

1517
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,600
Haspinal fights been where it's 
a first round demolition and 

1518
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,160
he's just too quick, he is too 
precise, does what he wants and 

1519
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,600
that's game over. 
Or we see John, which I think 

1520
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,360
this is how it could happen, 
extend him outside the first 

1521
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,360
round and then it becomes a bit 
of a dogfight. 

1522
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,720
And then this is where I think 
the age might affect Jon Jones a

1523
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,080
little bit. 
Father Time is Father time and 

1524
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,120
Jon Jones is 38 by the time this
fight happens. 

1525
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,360
If it does, he'll probably be 
39, I have to assume. 

1526
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,600
And, and I don't know, there was
a lot of slow movement against 

1527
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,160
Stipe. 
I didn't see a lot of pop. 

1528
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Tom's got pop. 
Tom's a quick cat. 

1529
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,240
And so I think that there's a 
world in which if you put prime 

1530
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,520
John versus prime Tom, it's 
prime John Jones. 

1531
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,200
But I think this version of John
Jones struggles with Tom. 

1532
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,840
And if I. 
What if Stipe is really good and

1533
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,280
he just looked like that? 
Because John is really, really, 

1534
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,680
really good. 
So people like, oh, Stipe looks 

1535
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,160
slow. 
It's like it's hard to look good

1536
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,760
against John. 
Right. 

1537
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,920
And John's training with Gordon 
Ryan, bro, like, and he's 

1538
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,440
training with Gabel Stevenson, 
right? 

1539
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,320
Doug, Doug he, he's going to go 
in there and he's going to maul 

1540
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,360
this dude. 
And he's going. 

1541
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,920
To go to the after party, he's 
going to do whatever he wants, 

1542
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,160
bro. 
And listen, he's going to be the

1543
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,600
the, the fight of the night and 
the life of the party straight 

1544
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,880
up. 
And there's nothing anybody I 

1545
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,320
know we could want it. 
With the the the world, the 

1546
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,040
heavyweight. 
World champ should be a dude. 

1547
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,040
Listen, I train better when I'm 
covered in glitter after coming 

1548
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,480
out to strip club, OK? 
Some of us are a little bit. 

1549
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,680
Wild, right? 
And I think John's got a little 

1550
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,240
bit of that in him. 
You get, you let him get a 

1551
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,400
little wild and he and he can 
start feeling himself and he's 

1552
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,440
like, I'm a bad motherfucker. 
And then he goes in there and 

1553
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:07,840
fucks that dude up. 
Bro I. 

1554
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,720
Think it just depends on how you
look at the sport right? 

1555
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,280
If you want to call it a sport, 
you have the interim champ. 

1556
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,160
And you're allowed to say that 
because you fought. 

1557
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,000
If you had not fought, I would 
not even engage in this. 

1558
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,720
Conversation. 
With you, you would have 

1559
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:19,359
already. 
Attacked. 

1560
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,479
The craziest thing, even just 
watching that fight happen, or 

1561
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,920
even seen the fight getting 
booked, was Tom Aspinol defended

1562
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,479
an interim championship. 
I've never seen that done 

1563
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,200
before. 
Tom's got what, six wins over 

1564
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,359
the top 10, 10, five wins over 
the top 10. 

1565
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:38,080
So he is, in my opinion, the guy
who has done more at heavyweight

1566
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,760
than Jon Jones. 
Jon is gonna. 

1567
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,240
Know if you can deny that, 
Cheeks. 

1568
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,960
I'd love to see it. 
I listen. 

1569
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,200
I'd love to see the fight. 
Just manifest the fact that 

1570
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,000
you've got the interim champ 
sitting front row. 

1571
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,359
I want to see him fight Pereira.
Bro, you're gonna. 

1572
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,760
Want to see him to be honest. 
Come on bro, let's go. 

1573
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,040
I'm not gonna play that game. 
Gee, I want some. 

1574
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,439
I want all. 
That Brazilian witchcraft. 

1575
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,800
And shit. 
Do you? 

1576
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,880
Yes. 
That would be that, not be one 

1577
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,720
of the greatest. 
I want it to happen at 

1578
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,439
heavyweight. 
That way there's the chance of 

1579
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,439
the fucking 3 peat, the hat 
trick, the triple champ, the 

1580
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,200
thing that Henry Cejudo was 
talking about. 

1581
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,000
And then he realized that maybe 
not the path for him, right? 

1582
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,120
Yeah, granted, he's a gold 
medalist and he's a two time 

1583
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,000
champion, but he was what was he
going to go four seed? 

1584
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,080
But he's going to have three 
belts in UFC, right? 

1585
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,720
He was going to fight up and go 
up and fight Volk. 

1586
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,439
But listen, Alex has a chance to
do that. 

1587
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:29,920
There's a. 
World. 

1588
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,319
As. 
Slim as it may be and as much as

1589
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,120
our hearts may want it to 
happen, that he lands a fucking 

1590
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,960
hook and just puts his lights 
out, right? 

1591
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,600
So that's the actual possibility
that he might be a three 

1592
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,040
division world champion. 
And to me that's much more 

1593
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,160
entertaining because he is a two
time champ. 

1594
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:50,240
He does have a legacy. 
He was a world champion in 

1595
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,960
kickboxing and now he's going to
fight Jon Jones, the baddest 

1596
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,600
motherfucker ever to put on 4 oz
gloves. 

1597
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,960
But you know what I'm saying? 
Bro. 

1598
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,600
And and then. 
And then you're telling me. 

1599
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:00,920
Oh well. 
We got a white dude with quick. 

1600
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,520
Feet, you know I'm saying. 
And I'm like you're. 

1601
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,800
Racist. 
Bro you only want it because 

1602
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,400
he's white. 
You're white. 

1603
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,800
Hold on. 
I think, I think again, this is 

1604
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,200
where it I think. 
I said the quiet part out loud. 

1605
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,600
OK, my bad, my bad. 
I think this is where the UFC. 

1606
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,800
So you're saying you don't want 
a person of color, a Brazilian, 

1607
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,400
to fight another person of color
in Jon Jones, is what you're 

1608
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,000
saying here? 
That's a white man. 

1609
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,560
Is not at all. 
What if he's? 

1610
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,320
Just his privilege when? 
You say? 

1611
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,680
Your trouble on bro, We're good.
I would love to see every person

1612
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,600
of color succeed, yeah. 
Give me these two stuff jabs all

1613
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:31,960
day. 
I'm. 

1614
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,040
Here's The thing is, this is 
where the UFC creates problems 

1615
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,080
for itself because when you're 
putting on it interim title 

1616
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,360
fight between Sergey Pavlovich 
and Tom Aspinall, that thing 

1617
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,760
creates the precedent that the 
winner of such matchup will 

1618
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,840
immediately go face the champ 
when he's healthy, ready to come

1619
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,480
back to action. 
That's just how interim 

1620
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,680
championships are defined, 
right? 

1621
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,320
So the UFC, they honestly, when 
you look back at this 

1622
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,280
retroactively, they shouldn't 
have put the interim belt on the

1623
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:57,800
line for that fight. 
They should have just said, hey,

1624
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,920
we've got an excellent showcase 
of top five heavyweight talent 

1625
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,200
that we're going to add instead 
of Steep A and John for this 

1626
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,000
car. 
That's what they should have 

1627
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,880
done. 
Because we got Ben telling Dana 

1628
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,440
what he should have. 
You know what? 

1629
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,560
I'm saying this is just one 
man's opinion. 

1630
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,880
This is just one man's opinion, 
but like the fact. 

1631
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,520
That I'm like fucking with you, 
but I'm kind of like, not, you 

1632
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:15,200
know what I mean? 
Like. 

1633
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,800
I mean, but. 
So I don't I I agree with you. 

1634
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,840
Actually, but. 
But then I go Dane is a. 

1635
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,760
Fucking billionaire, you're 
flying. 

1636
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,360
Wrong, but you can't talk about 
patchy mix not getting 

1637
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,360
opportunities and then shit on 
Tom aspinol for being the 

1638
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,840
defending interim champs 
sitting. 

1639
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,160
Why the fuck am I not trying to 
unify? 

1640
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,280
You can't big up patchy and then
shit on Tom. 

1641
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,480
That's not. 
How shit point though. 

1642
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,200
Alex has multiple belts, not 
interim titles, but to the point

1643
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,120
where Dana he he's got a case as
well. 

1644
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,440
The the amount of draw that's 
come out of this whole Dana and 

1645
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:49,240
or I'm sorry, John and Asheville
situation is is blowing up the 

1646
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,360
sport. 
I feel like it's on another 

1647
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,360
level the. 
The the oil Sheik, the Saudi 

1648
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,680
Prince dude said he's going to 
send Dana White to the moon. 

1649
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,760
He's going to give him so much 
money because he wants John 

1650
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,960
Jones versus Francis. 
Yeah, I. 

1651
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,560
Don't know if you heard that yet
that happened. 

1652
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,080
Yesterday was it? 
Yes, he said. 

1653
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,160
Physically. 
Give him cash in a briefcase 

1654
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,280
that he. 
Can then go. 

1655
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,360
Buy a rocket ship to the moon, 
that's how much money. 

1656
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,120
He did, Turkey also put right 
he's going to give Mike Tyson 

1657
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,200
$700 million to rematch Jake 
Paul. 

1658
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,000
So I'm like. 
Do you think he's bluffing 

1659
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,280
though? 
I don't think he's bluffing. 

1660
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:20,720
I I know he has that. 
He's. 

1661
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,280
Smoking that good? 
She's out there if you. 

1662
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,640
Can do anything he wants. 
I I'd like to see that fight 

1663
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:26,480
now. 
I I want to. 

1664
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:28,640
Just not do that. 
That's wrong, but anyway, right?

1665
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,440
But when you think about it and 
Ganu versus Jones, you've got 

1666
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:34,480
Francis and Ganu, who is the 
lineal UFC heavyweight champion.

1667
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,160
You didn't. 
You got to beat the man to be 

1668
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,720
the man. 
Nobody beat Francis and Ganu 

1669
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,000
inside MMA. 
He left with the belt. 

1670
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,920
So for me, I there's such 
intrigue. 

1671
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,080
So in a way. 
Not more than that. 

1672
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,440
No, no, no. 
In a way, John and Aspinall are 

1673
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:51,440
both interim champs because 
Francis bounced with the fucking

1674
01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:53,280
belt. 
He dropped his nuts on the 

1675
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,640
table, he said. 
Here's your belt back and I'm 

1676
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,400
going to go over here and get a 
paycheck. 

1677
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,320
That's and Gano, the lineal 
champ, John, the UFC heavyweight

1678
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,560
champ, Aspinall, interim 
heavyweight champ. 

1679
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,760
That's the discussion here, 
Alex, Alex Padilla, light 

1680
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,280
heavyweight champ, former middle
weight champ. 

1681
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:10,120
So you do have so many 
storylines here. 

1682
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,240
The problem is, again, activity,
right? 

1683
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,520
Tom Aspinall is a very active 
guy. 

1684
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,560
Jon Jones, I think, again, with 
the age with that injury, he 

1685
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:17,880
hasn't fought as actively as 
possible. 

1686
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,680
There might be a world in which 
we get all of this. 

1687
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,800
King David, we could get all of 
this. 

1688
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,160
Well, the only way it happens 
really is if if John beat. 

1689
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,040
If John beats Tom, Yep, he'll 
get the Alex fight. 

1690
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,400
Yep. 
I think he beats Alex. 

1691
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,360
Yeah, and, and then the oil 
sheet comes in and it's like, 

1692
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:38,320
dude, Dana, my brother, you know
what I mean? 

1693
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,080
And then he's like, I'm a I'm a 
back the Brinks truck up. 

1694
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,600
I want to see it from my own 
personal enjoyment. 

1695
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,200
And then and then he's just he. 
That guy hits what he wants. 

1696
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:48,680
But but if? 
That guy, if that. 

1697
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,280
Guy wants a steak, he gets a 
steak. 

1698
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,920
Risk the like the reputability 
of the brand of the UFC, though,

1699
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,240
by the chance of their champion 
losing to another heavyweight 

1700
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,880
champion that's not with his 
organization. 

1701
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,120
But when you look at the, oh, 
that's. 

1702
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,280
Easy. 
You. 

1703
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,960
Just you. 
Just start talking about how old

1704
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,880
Jon Jones is. 
It's going to be a miracle. 

1705
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:10,360
Jon Jones is 40 years old to. 
Beat him 40. 40 years old, Jon 

1706
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,760
Jones is making history. 40 
years old, 40, just keep 

1707
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,800
bringing up 40 years old. 
And in the event that he does 

1708
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,000
lose, then he just oh, he was 40
bro, Come on. 

1709
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,360
You know what I mean? 
We've been saying that in all 

1710
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,000
the promos. 
And he's already the greatest of

1711
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,760
all time in many people's ideas,
right? 

1712
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,440
So whatever Jon Jones does next,
it's icing on top. 

1713
01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:26,600
It's extracurricular. 
So I think, let's, let's paint 

1714
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,880
this picture. 
Jon Jones defends against Tom 

1715
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,360
Aspinall, beats him, right, 
dominates, and we go, oh shit, 

1716
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,400
that's a bad motherfucker. 
Alex Padilla steps up to the 

1717
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,400
plate, gets submitted. 
Oh my God, Jon Jones doing it 

1718
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,520
again, adding to the legacy 
final fight of Jon Jones's 

1719
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,000
career. 
Francis and Gano do it in real, 

1720
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,280
do it wherever Turkey wants, and
that's it. 

1721
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,040
That's the swan song. 
Let's. 

1722
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,880
Reverse the order. 
John Jones goes in there two 

1723
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,800
weeks. 
Notice double legs, Alex. 

1724
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,280
Alex tries to. 
Wrestle No No. 

1725
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,240
Alex tries to wrestle up, gets 
put in a guillotine, Gordon Ryan

1726
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,800
says lower your shoulder, his 
shoulder, right? 

1727
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,320
Your wrist goes higher, right? 
He's got technical details, 

1728
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:03,680
Gordon. 
Gordon I like the Gordons. 

1729
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,000
Here, Gordon no. 
Gordon Ryan has. 

1730
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,160
Technical details bro, he's the 
best. 

1731
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,760
Grappler on the planet, and he's
in the best athlete we've ever 

1732
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,680
seen and the best fighter on the
planet's quarter. 

1733
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,000
So he's going to tell him, sneak
your shoulder lower, bring your 

1734
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,200
head across the center line, 
right? 

1735
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,720
And then he's going to wrap 
that, wrap that palm to palm, 

1736
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,560
guillotine up, choke Alex out 
and then in another two weeks, 

1737
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,520
he didn't take any damage. 
He goes and fights Tom Aspinall 

1738
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,560
we're. 
Talking same month, we're 

1739
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,120
talking one calendar month. 
One month, one year, whatever. 

1740
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:28,760
Doesn't matter. 
It's. 

1741
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:29,840
Possible. 
Yeah. 

1742
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,240
So. 
So there's a there's a scenario 

1743
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,080
where he goes in that fight, 
chokes him out, gets the belt, 

1744
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,760
does the Trump dance and comes 
out unscathed and then goes on 

1745
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,720
and fights Tom anyway, or just 
bounces out and collects a bag 

1746
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,160
because Dana's like, yo, man, 
send me that Saudi money, man. 

1747
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,400
You know, Tom Aspinall has a 
fight in the the meantime, he 

1748
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,520
gets beat up, people go, oh, 
going to beat Jon Jones anyways,

1749
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,960
right? 
And then I don't know. 

1750
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,800
And then and then we get the 
fucking Saudi fight on Mars or 

1751
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:57,920
whatever, you know what I'm 
saying? 

1752
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,560
The moon, They're going to do 
that fight on the moon, bro. 

1753
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,240
That's going to build a base 
Turkey. 

1754
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,400
'S building a base. 
Yeah, what do you think's more 

1755
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,480
likely? 
Jon Jones fights Tom Aspinall or

1756
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,840
Jon Jones fights Francis and 
Ganu. 

1757
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,680
I think it's more likely he 
fights Aspinall because I think 

1758
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,280
the issue with doing it in Ghana
fight is you'd have to deal with

1759
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,920
PFL and you need that cross 
collaboration. 

1760
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,360
And I think Dana's been quite 
vocal that he's not interested 

1761
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:25,080
in doing anything with the PFL. 
So it would almost have to be at

1762
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,160
a, a scenario in which either 
John leaves the UFC and goes to 

1763
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,080
PFL or Francis leaves PFL and 
goes back to the UFC and they do

1764
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,560
a an event there. 
I think that's the only world in

1765
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,560
which it could happen because I 
don't see them Co promoting and 

1766
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,000
working together right for 
because like you mentioned 

1767
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,280
earlier for Dana, there's not 
much to gain by doing a Co 

1768
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,120
promotion with PFLPFL is the one
that stands to gain everything 

1769
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,960
from putting Ingano up against 
Jones, so. 

1770
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,040
I disagree. 
I know a lot of rich people and 

1771
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,400
they got rich because they don't
like being told no and money can

1772
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,520
move mountains and this dude is 
the richest dude. 

1773
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,320
He's so rich that they don't 
even talk about how rich he is 

1774
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,200
because he's got like trillions 
of dollars. 

1775
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,080
If this guy wants that fight to 
happen, that fight's going to 

1776
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,080
happen and Dane is going to be 
happy about it because Dane is a

1777
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,560
businessman. 
So if they make the right offer,

1778
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,800
let's say they go, hey PFL, 
we're going to give you 100 mil,

1779
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,280
we're going to get Francis out 
of there or whatever. 

1780
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,680
I'm just making a number. 
They get Francis out of there. 

1781
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,960
Francis re signs with the UFC, 
The Sheik pays him instead of 

1782
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,440
UFC having to come out of 
pocket. 

1783
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,360
Problem solved. 
If that guy wants the fight to 

1784
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,800
happen, the fight's happening 
now. 

1785
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,400
If it happens on the moon, 
that's a little bit of a bigger 

1786
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,720
investment, but that's. 
What? 

1787
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,920
I'm hoping for keep going 
galactic and keep going 

1788
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,440
galactic. 
It's going to go down. 

1789
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,160
On. 
The moon. 

1790
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,280
Elon Musk has rockets. 
They can do that. 

1791
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:43,840
We can do. 
We can do it on a. 

1792
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,000
Rocket we do it on the rocket to
the moon wasn't the. 

1793
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,680
UFC too. 
He was looking at memes and. 

1794
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:48,760
Shit, right? 
You know what I mean? 

1795
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,480
He's running, he's running 
SpaceX from his phone. 

1796
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:54,240
Like, oh shit, that's Jon Jones.
Hey, let me, let me send this 

1797
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,640
rocket up real quick. 
And you know, Dan, I got you a 

1798
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,080
couple 100 million for that 
thing and A and A and a rocket 

1799
01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,840
ship. 
Let's go. 

1800
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,040
But even the, I mean, Turkey 
makes him look broke, basically,

1801
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,200
right? 
When you think about the money 

1802
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,800
that he's got compared to Elon, 
especially liquid cash, Yeah. 

1803
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,720
Right and. 
So I thought about that like, 

1804
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,120
you know, people are like, oh, 
dude, I need to work hard and 

1805
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,360
get more money, right? 
And I'm like, what if you just 

1806
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,240
woke up and you were like a 
Saudi Prince, right? 

1807
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,400
You would like, So there's not a
correlation. 

1808
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:21,880
You know what I mean? 
So like the. 

1809
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,520
Genetic lottery. 
I know we're getting way off. 

1810
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,840
Topic, right, But like there's 
like these limiting beliefs we 

1811
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,200
have in our heads that like 
things are attached to other 

1812
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,720
things and it's like those those
are correlation. 

1813
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,160
They're not causation, you know 
what I mean? 

1814
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,000
So there's some people on this 
planet that like are richer than

1815
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,520
anybody else has ever been in 
human history and they don't 

1816
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,200
like have to quote UN quote 
work, let alone hard. 

1817
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,200
I don't know, I'm just trying to
expand your. 

1818
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,200
Minds, guys, you know what I'm 
saying? 

1819
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:45,520
Trying to get that alpha. 
Brand. 

1820
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,400
Yeah, yeah, man, I'm on the. 
Genetic lighters. 

1821
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,720
It's such an issue now because 
I'm. 

1822
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,320
Also on 400 milligrams of 
caffeine. 200 milligrams. 

1823
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,840
Yeah, I'm on cat right now. 
I'm on the Big K dog. 

1824
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,080
Yo, let's go to Access. 
Club 20 minutes ago. 

1825
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,720
No, bro, Yeah, no. 
I'm I'm. 

1826
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,240
I'm. 
I'm. 

1827
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,920
High as fuck. 
On caffeine right now and L 

1828
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,320
theanine and lions manes 
mushrooms so maybe what I'm 

1829
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,200
talking about isn't making a 
whole lot of sense. 

1830
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,880
Let's go bro. 
Last thing before we get out of 

1831
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,320
here, the whole Conor McGregor 
situation, what do you guys make

1832
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,040
of? 
It well, what I make of Bo 

1833
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,000
Nickel is that a lot of people 
are hating on Bo Nickel. 

1834
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:26,000
Meanwhile, he just smoked a dude
that has beaten like world 

1835
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,680
champions that that guy's 
finished world champions and 

1836
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,400
bone. 
The object of the fight is to 

1837
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,480
hit and not get hit. 
So that's actually martial arts 

1838
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,200
and it can upset whoever. 
And people can want to see him 

1839
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,920
bang. 
People can say I want him to 

1840
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,040
take him down and play in his 
guard and give him a chance. 

1841
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,880
It's like, no, dude, martial 
arts is like eliminating the 

1842
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,920
chance of the other dude. 
And he did that. 

1843
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,560
Now we can talk about Conor 
McGregor. 

1844
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,760
Well, what I have to add to that
is when you think about Jamal 

1845
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,840
Hill, I think Jamal is doing 
such a interesting job promoting

1846
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,040
himself to the point where it's 
turning me around. 

1847
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,240
I was for a very long time, and 
you know this, I was a little 

1848
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,640
bit critical of 1 Jamal Hill 
because I was like, why were you

1849
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,560
saying the things you do? 
Why are you acting the way that 

1850
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,640
you are? 
But but now I see the vision, I 

1851
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,560
see the hilarity in what he 
does. 

1852
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,960
Jamal today pulled up on Alex 
Padilla at the apex and was just

1853
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,200
yapping. 
Alex throws gloves at him was 

1854
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,760
like, listen, you want to spar? 
We can spar and he'll he'll 

1855
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,680
didn't do anything. 
He was just yapping and then 

1856
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,120
walked away. 
Alex doesn't speak English. 

1857
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,880
You know, it's in. 
It's so funny to me that Jamal 

1858
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,000
just walks up, talks shit to a 
guy that can't speak English. 

1859
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,960
The guy's like, hey, we can 
spar. 

1860
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,760
And he's like, no, I'm here to 
talk and. 

1861
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,160
And and I'll see you later. 
If. 

1862
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,240
You want to fight me? 
They need to cut a check. 

1863
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,480
But that's exactly what he said.
He's like for no money. 

1864
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:41,200
No. 
And I'm like, it's, he is such 

1865
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,600
an anomaly. 
And like I I've I've crossed the

1866
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:49,440
path of being annoyed from him 
to just being in awe of Jamal. 

1867
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,120
Is he a true job? 
What is it? 

1868
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,320
I don't know, I true that he's. 
Trying to get a fight and a 

1869
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,360
paycheck bro. 
That's what he's. 

1870
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:58,600
Doing a good job. 
He's doing a good. 

1871
01:20:58,960 --> 01:20:59,920
Same. 
Conversation. 

1872
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,280
I, I have been one of his most 
critical people, but I 

1873
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,440
truthfully, at this point in 
time, I have to say Jamal, it is

1874
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:10,280
entertaining every day. 
Whenever he opens, it's almost 

1875
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,320
like Bryce Mitchell. 
Anytime they open their mouths, 

1876
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,240
I know I'm going to be 
entertained. 

1877
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,320
And honestly, I can be content 
with that, you know? 

1878
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,480
Well, Bryce Mitchell was just 
like UFC Theo Von, right? 

1879
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,880
100% yeah. 
Drilled his balls off and then 

1880
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,600
said he doesn't believe in 
seatbelts this week. 

1881
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,480
What does that even mean? 
You know, like. 

1882
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:27,720
We don't. 
Birds are fake bro, you know 

1883
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,160
what I'm saying? 
Birds are fake. 

1884
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,400
No, but so, OK, so Connor, 
right. 

1885
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,840
So there there's a case against 
Connor. 

1886
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,160
They're alleging a lot of really
bad stuff. 

1887
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:39,320
And then there are people on the
Internet who are called 

1888
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,440
conspiracy theorists that say 
Connor started speaking out 

1889
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,120
against illegal aliens coming to
Ireland. 

1890
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,160
He spoke out and said he was 
going to run for president to 

1891
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,600
stop the global military 
industrial complex from 

1892
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,480
promoting their one world 
government agenda. 

1893
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,880
And all of a sudden he's getting
these charges right. 

1894
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,040
So those those are the two 
things that are happening with 

1895
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,000
Connor. 
As far as him fighting. 

1896
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,640
I think Connor is one of the 
most talented people on the 

1897
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,200
planet. 
And I think that six weeks 

1898
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,480
training camp, he comes back in 
there and cuts through Michael 

1899
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:16,280
Chandler like Buttermate. 
Was that your Irish accent? 

1900
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,560
Yeah, bro. 
Like Buttar Buttar. 

1901
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,080
I don't know. 
It's it's. 

1902
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,840
I'm going to break your nose 
mate. 

1903
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,320
That was better. 
We're getting there, We're 

1904
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,720
getting there. 
I do. 

1905
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,760
I do think if he had six weeks, 
I don't know, because you think 

1906
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,120
about the last couple years for 
him and his focus outside of the

1907
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,200
ring, outside of training, like 
I have to imagine that that's 

1908
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,880
going to impact his ability in 
ring when they fight. 

1909
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,880
But I do think it's a great 
match up for him. 

1910
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,760
I think if you're going to fight
anybody, it's got to be Mike 

1911
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,080
Chandler. 
That's that's probably the best 

1912
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,960
person in the top 15 that Connor
can beat as it pertains to 

1913
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,120
everything that's going on with 
him outside the cage. 

1914
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:54,280
It's crazy. 
It's tough to see. 

1915
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:55,880
You know well people. 
Well, people. 

1916
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:01,360
Love Michael Chandler because 
Michael Chandler is willing to 

1917
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,600
make poor choices you don't 
like. 

1918
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,000
He'll stand and trade with 
Connor and be like, dude, one of

1919
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,640
us is going to go, you know what
I mean? 

1920
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,000
And that's what people come to 
see. 

1921
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,600
And and that type of thought 
process plays right into 

1922
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,560
Connor's like and if Connor can 
come in there, I'm talking like 

1923
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,280
karate Connor. 
I'm talking Edo portal Connor, 

1924
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,240
you know what I mean? 
Where he's doing touch butt in 

1925
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,240
the park and fucking smoking 
dudes like with one hitter 

1926
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,680
quitters. 
Pre 2017. 

1927
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,120
That was like 10 years ago, but 
like it was not recent 

1928
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,320
unfortunately. 
He needs six weeks to get his 

1929
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,640
shit back together. 
That's it, right? 

1930
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,160
You could you listen, we all 
have friends who've gone on 

1931
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,880
benders and then got their shit 
back together, but. 

1932
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,680
A7 year. 
Bender here buddy. 

1933
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,360
That's hard to walk back. 
In a my set. 

1934
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,080
Records. 
I own all the numbers. 

1935
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,800
A. 
Seven-year Bender and I come. 

1936
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,600
Straight back into the main 
event mate. 

1937
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,640
That's what he's doing. 
I don't know, I think I'd have 

1938
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,320
to see something he's. 
Still going to break pay per 

1939
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,680
views. 
He's still going to break 

1940
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,760
Chandler's nose. 
He's still going to break every 

1941
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,200
international gate record ever 
set. 

1942
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,920
And he's still the Notorious 
Connor McGregor. 

1943
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,440
Well. 
We know he's not a Mike Chandler

1944
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:10,920
fan. 
No, no, I do I. 

1945
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,200
Love Mike Chandler. 
But I'm just saying 

1946
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,480
stylistically like, OK, then who
better? 

1947
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:17,920
Than Connor. 
No. 

1948
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:18,560
Who? 
Better for? 

1949
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:19,080
Yeah. 
For Connor. 

1950
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,080
For. 
Connor no one's better. 

1951
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,200
I think that that's the perfect 
match up so. 

1952
01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:24,440
So we agree. 
Yeah, OK 'cause you were just 

1953
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,960
like, listen, we don't need to 
spar again. 

1954
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,680
My God, I'm about to have 
another viral. 

1955
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,520
Clip up in this motherfucker. 
I think Max Holloway would be 

1956
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:33,400
fun. 
Max. 

1957
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,560
Would be a very fun one for 
Connor, run that back, see if 

1958
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,120
Max can get some vengeance. 
But I, I kind of have the, the 

1959
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:43,120
thought process of does this 
make Connor's return bigger than

1960
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,120
maybe before, right? 
The whole civilly liable of rape

1961
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,840
thing, 'cause if you look at 
Mike Tyson way back in the day, 

1962
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,080
he was that was criminal 
conviction, right? 

1963
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,800
I thought that was civil. 
Court, that was civil as well. 

1964
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,040
No, Mike Tyson went to prison. 
Yeah, I was. 

1965
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,080
I'm thinking about the. 
Yeah, he was in prison, so he 

1966
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:58,520
was. 
Criminally convicted of rape and

1967
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,000
when he came out it was I mean 
everybody was like, Oh my God, 

1968
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,720
what version of Mike Tyson are 
we going to see? 

1969
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,800
So does this and he. 
Peter Mcneely. 

1970
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,240
Yeah, six months. 
He came out time for some time 

1971
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,080
for some action, time time for 
some time for some action. 

1972
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,480
I still remember that. 
Walk out. 

1973
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:15,640
You know what? 
I mean, and he came out. 

1974
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,080
Not that old buddy. 
I was like. 

1975
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,920
I am. 
I am bro, let's. 

1976
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,280
And I'm still fucking running. 
Let's go. 

1977
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,600
It's. 
Just it's just crazy to see 

1978
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,440
somebody that like at one point 
in time again, was the 

1979
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:28,920
definition of the sport that 
helps scale MMA to a more 

1980
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,000
mainstream audience, put it on 
his shoulders in a certain 

1981
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,120
regard and and brought it up 
right to then ten years later 

1982
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,720
being in a situation where you 
found civilly liable of rape. 

1983
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:43,680
The only way to really approach 
that is just it's crazy and it's

1984
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:49,080
just crazy. 
So you're you're a a reasonable 

1985
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,760
person. 
I'm not a conspiracy. 

1986
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,440
There is. 
So, so how, how much do you 

1987
01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:59,200
believe that him speaking out 
against the One World government

1988
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,640
has to do with those charges? 
Or. 

1989
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:07,720
Honestly, that is a sandbags of 
conversation that I just can't 

1990
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,440
offer an opinion on. 
Our, Our goal, our goal. 

1991
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:12,280
Was to get. 
Cancelled here bro. 

1992
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,040
I can't offer a. 
We have one goal. 

1993
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,320
You know that? 
Who knows? 

1994
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,280
Who knows is the big question. 
Mark, you are a conspiracy 

1995
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:19,960
theory. 
So it's. 

1996
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:22,560
Possible. 
No. 

1997
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,760
I'm not, no, I'm not 
entertaining it. 

1998
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,000
So, so you're saying that you 
don't publicly support Conor 

1999
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,600
McGregor is what you're saying 
all? 

2000
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,640
Right, put me on the spot, I'll.
Just fuck with you. 

2001
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,200
Don't answer that. 
Don't answer that. 

2002
01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:36,760
I'm just, I'm just trolling. 
Kind of crazy to see how the 

2003
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,120
world has reacted to it though, 
right? 

2004
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,080
And how they've just taken them 
off of everything, How he's 

2005
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,360
every. 
Brand proper 12 saying he's no. 

2006
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:43,960
One would be KFC. 
No. 

2007
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,720
I, I don't know. 
I haven't, I haven't seen BKFC 

2008
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,960
publicly say anything about it. 
I'm not sure if they have or 

2009
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,240
haven't. 
That's crazy you got coached mid

2010
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,400
fight by Connor. 
That's that's a fucking life 

2011
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,480
moment. 
Bro it has aged so terribly. 

2012
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,840
It was like. 
Him raising our arms, I'm like 

2013
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,320
that has aged just so boring 
within a month. 

2014
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,160
I can't post this photo ever. 
I I walked out to R Kelly one 

2015
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,800
time and then he got to no no no
before. 

2016
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:09,840
When he was before. 
What? 

2017
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,440
He was what? 
He was still dope, right? 

2018
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,200
It was like, oh shit, R Kelly. 
Well, I'm dog. 

2019
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,880
I've been fighting for a long 
time, right? 

2020
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,240
And so I walked out to R Kelly, 
right? 

2021
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,480
It was after the party. 
It's the after party and after 

2022
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:20,920
the nanny and the nan and that, 
right. 

2023
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,720
And so I'm like pointing at 
girls in the audience was my 

2024
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,200
girlfriend at the time, but 
still I would fly. 

2025
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,040
I was like. 
Pointing at. 

2026
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,480
Her and she's like looking at me
and I'm like dude, this is dope.

2027
01:27:27,480 --> 01:27:29,720
And then he started pissing on 
women and under and I'm like. 

2028
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,960
What is going on? 
What concert? 

2029
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,320
Oh. 
No, no, no, no, straight on the.

2030
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,680
Stage. 
I didn't watch this right. 

2031
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,080
R Kelly did that too, right? 
He's in jail. 

2032
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,280
We can make up stories about 
him. 

2033
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,280
Because not somebody didn't 
watch about R Kelly. 

2034
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,520
I'm just playing that this. 
Is an R Kelly liar space? 

2035
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,480
Allegedly Allegedly he was 
urinating on people at his 

2036
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:48,480
concerts or something. 
But anyway. 

2037
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,720
So do. 
You have your passports. 

2038
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:52,280
A lot. 
A lot. 

2039
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,880
Of Do you have your shots? 
A lot of these. 

2040
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,000
People, you can't, even if 
they're in Hollywood, you can't 

2041
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,960
even deal with them because it's
going to age poorly. 

2042
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,400
Like, I mean, you know. 
Think, think about Jake 

2043
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,840
Gyllenhaal. 
He's like, I did a movie with 

2044
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,520
that guy. 
Fucking Roadhouse with that guy.

2045
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,240
Aren't they? 
Weren't they filming Roadhouse 

2046
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,720
too? 
I think I think they were 

2047
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,640
filming the single. 
Man, yeah, I think they're in 

2048
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:13,760
the middle of filming the second
one. 

2049
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,600
Jake's rolling up the set. 
He's like, hey guys, where's 

2050
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,720
Connor? 
Don't ask. 

2051
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,120
Don't even ask. 
He's under the prison. 

2052
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:21,800
I don't know. 
We'll see. 

2053
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,520
I think I think the best, the 
best answer is we'll see on 

2054
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,720
everything. 
I I hope all listen. 

2055
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,920
I want truth if that if that 
person was victimized. 

2056
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,520
Then. 
I support, you know, people 

2057
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,160
being prosecuted. 
I hope it's not true though, You

2058
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,080
know what I mean? 
Like I just, I, I hope it's not 

2059
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,360
true. 
I don't want to see, I don't 

2060
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,760
like hearing bad things 
happening. 

2061
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,000
I don't like hearing about 
people getting the R word. 

2062
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,800
I think that's all. 
R Word. 

2063
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,400
Yeah, I don't if we say we'll 
get cancelled or their bleep it 

2064
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,560
or something, I don't it rhymes 
with the color of his jacket 

2065
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,360
grapes. 
He's just. 

2066
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,840
Red, yeah. 
Genuinely thought you were 

2067
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,360
retarded. 
That is, that's another one of 

2068
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:00,920
them. 
Yeah. 

2069
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,080
And so, you know, any time that 
that happens, that's that's 

2070
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,800
tragic and unfortunate and 
terrible, but I really hope it's

2071
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,320
not true, man. 
I hope that that girl didn't get

2072
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:10,600
that. 
I hope she's just chasing a bag.

2073
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,920
I hope Connor makes a comeback. 
You know what I mean? 

2074
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,200
Like, I have hope in people. 
And you know, I don't know shit 

2075
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,680
about the case, so I'm just 
speculating. 

2076
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,120
I might go read the case and be 
like, damn, I take back 

2077
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,200
everything I said, right? 
Fuck that dude. 

2078
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,280
But as of right now, I don't 
know anything about it. 

2079
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,040
And I'm just having opinions, 
uneducated opinions about 

2080
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,520
subject matters I don't know 
anything about. 

2081
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,120
Well, like we said, like a 
couple weeks ago, a criminally 

2082
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:37,680
convicted rapist participated in
the most watched fight of all 

2083
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,560
time exactly on Netflix, all 
kinds of different sponsors on 

2084
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,320
it. 
Mike Tyson was there, right? 

2085
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,040
So. 
That's wild, I think. 

2086
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:45,960
Seems. 
Like the whole world. 

2087
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,280
Accepted it, it's not going to 
prevent I think in his future, I

2088
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,680
don't think that it will prevent
much again because historically 

2089
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,440
Kobe as well had that situation 
right where he went through that

2090
01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:57,360
same thing and and I think that 
was. 

2091
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,560
You know how he met his wife? 
No. 

2092
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,440
He was already an NBA All Star. 
He was getting into a phase 

2093
01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:05,040
where he wanted to be a rapper, 
so he brought some girls on set.

2094
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:07,200
Those girls ended up being high 
school girls. 

2095
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,280
One of those girls was Vanessa. 
Start dating her. 

2096
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:11,920
His parents didn't approve of 
it. 

2097
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,080
And then his parents moved away 
from him for, like, a couple of 

2098
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:15,920
decades until he had kids. 
Yeah. 

2099
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,400
It's just crazy, I think, I 
think especially with the the 

2100
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,360
rights deal coming up in this. 
Paul Walker's girlfriend was 16 

2101
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:23,600
when he was. 
Like 30? 

2102
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,240
Fuck this, I'm moving to 
Thailand and marrying a hooker. 

2103
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:27,320
Fuck. 
All you. 

2104
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,080
People, you're doing. 
It all my. 

2105
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,680
You're ruining all my idols 
we're. 

2106
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,160
Going back to Phuket, we're 
going back. 

2107
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,800
To Phuket, that's the only take 
away Let's. 

2108
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:36,000
Go. 
Stew. 

2109
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:37,840
Oh. 
My God, yeah, Big stew's going 

2110
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,600
to come with us. 
Anyway, David, where can 

2111
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,480
everybody find you on socials 
where you're going to be I? 

2112
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:45,640
Don't know man fucking I get I 
get my accounts deleted 

2113
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,000
frequently. 
Right now it's King David MMA. 

2114
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,920
There's a lot of pro America 
comments and, you know, 

2115
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,120
patriotism on there, and I guess
that's frowned upon these days. 

2116
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,280
So yeah, shout out to me, 
myself, King David, the country,

2117
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,440
USA, Donald Trump. 
Dana White, let's go. 

2118
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:05,520
Let's go and the man and the 
bane, Davis, you can. 

2119
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:10,840
Also find me at the Peppermint 
Hippo Monday through Friday 

2120
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,640
staying up all night getting 
covered in glitter by strippers 

2121
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,320
before I go to pro practice. 
Shout out to the peppermint 

2122
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:17,800
hippo. 
That's not where you're going 

2123
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,120
to. 
Find me, I'm dragging you. 

2124
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,360
Wake up with your girlfriend and
come to the strip club with me 

2125
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,120
right now. 
I can. 

2126
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:25,680
I gotta go put a ring on her, 
man, oh man. 

2127
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,680
Well then. 
We're doing a bachelor party at 

2128
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,160
the Peppermint Hip Hop. 
I'm. 

2129
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,120
Going to introduce. 
You to Cashley. 

2130
01:31:34,440 --> 01:31:37,160
She's a she's a nice. 
Girl, I don't want to meet Cash.

2131
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,760
You do. 
You just don't know it. 

2132
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,680
Sorry. 
Sorry to Ben's girlfriend. 

2133
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,560
You're lovely and he's actually 
a choir boy. 

2134
01:31:43,480 --> 01:31:45,320
I've been the Bain Davis on our 
platforms, man. 

2135
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,840
We got APFC coming up this 
Sunday, so I'm sure when this is

2136
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,640
going to come out, but if you 
are wanting more combat sports 

2137
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,720
after Alexandra Pantosa and Kaya
Sakura, make sure you tune in to

2138
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,360
the final APFC event of the 
year. 

2139
01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:59,560
Outside of that on the Zone X 
series will be rocking and 

2140
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,600
rolling. 
January 18th, Darren Till versus

2141
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,200
Tommy Fury. 
That'll be a fun. 

2142
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,360
One with me, I didn't know that 
was happening bro I'm excited 

2143
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,120
for that that's. 
Going to be huge cards where is 

2144
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,240
that taking place and you're. 
Commentating that, Commentating 

2145
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:11,080
it. 
Hey, listen, bro. 

2146
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:12,680
Hey. 
Man I need the VIP. 

2147
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,160
You are a huge globe, though, 
Ben. 

2148
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,240
Congratulations. 
It's been amazing to watch the 

2149
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:21,360
growth. 
I mean, we've known each other 

2150
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:22,560
for maybe a couple of years now.
Yeah. 

2151
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,360
It's been awesome to see 
everything blow. 

2152
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,400
And one thing I really admire 
about Ben, he shows up, bro, 

2153
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,120
he's on a plane, he's on another
plane, he's on a layover. 

2154
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:33,840
He's no sleep in the airport. 
Listen, last night, tough 

2155
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,840
enough, he pulled up, right? 
You know what I mean? 

2156
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,600
He stayed after. 
He's going to dinners, he's not 

2157
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,920
sleeping. 
He's like, I don't know, on 

2158
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,040
water and energy drains that 
just travel in the world and 

2159
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,760
making it happen. 
So anybody that says anything to

2160
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,880
me about Ben Davis, I'm like, 
dude, that guy hustles. 

2161
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,720
So my guy. 
One of the hardest working guys 

2162
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:52,880
in the biz. 
Let's go. 

2163
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,600
Hey, man. 
I appreciate you guys so much, 

2164
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,160
both for coming down, being a 
part of episode 100 for Stone 

2165
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:58,960
Friendship. 
Triple DJ. 

2166
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,800
Go smash 100, tie husters and 
beat up 100. 

2167
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:07,960
Good Lady Boys and Fight Circus 
episode 100. 

2168
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,320
Let's go. 
Shout out to you, Big Stew. 

2169
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:10,440
We're out. 
See you guys next time. 

2170
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,200
Let's go. 
Let's go. 

2171
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,080
Big Stew of getting the shouts. 
We're still. 

2172
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:22,880
Friends. 
We're still friends. 

2173
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:32,760
We're still friends. 
We're still friends.

