I got my nipple pinched by a lady boy.
Let's start first. I first time in a long time.
Still French episode 100. I got 2 special guests with me,
Legendary Ben the Bane Davis and King David MMA here with me
today. Let's go.
I appreciate you 2 legends being in the house today.
Listen, man takes one to know one, my God.
There we go. So wait, you guys started off
talking about a legendary Thailand trip recently?
Yeah. Can we get back into that?
We. We went to Thailand for Fight
Circus. I was a Fight Circus pays me to
shake my Dick. OK, so I'm a professional
gyrator at Fight Circus and they pay Ben to do a much classier
job, which is being intellectual and like talk and he's a
commentator. I don't even know, but the
classy and fight circus do not belong in the same sense, right?
Yeah. You Dong Master 3000.
You had a very different assignment than me.
Right. Yeah.
So I, I was shaking my Dick and getting felt up by women in the
crowd and everything like that. But, you know, no.
Well, I did get my nipple pinched by a lady boy, which is
you can, you're allowed to say that in Thailand that's what
they prefer to be called, whereas in America that's
probably like not kosher, you know?
But yeah, it was. I was like, dude, this chick's
hot. She's feeling me.
And then I saw an Adam's apple and I was.
Like dog out bounce, you know? What I mean?
My nipple still hurts a little, but that shit, that shit got a
strong grip. Yeah yeah bro.
So how you doing? My God, I've.
Never been to Thailand yet you're taking on Thailand?
Ben It was It was an interesting place.
You know, I think Thailand, I didn't get to see a lot of like
the touristy sides of it. I know some people went and saw
like the islands and the really cool water and it looks like a
postcard. A lot of places look like a
postcard. But where we were was definitely
like, all right, I can't go outside at 9:00 PM or else.
Yeah, we we were in like whatever you see in the Hangover
and you imagine Thailand's like that's what we were saying.
There was a club called Illusion and it's like the number 11
nightclub in the world. It's the number one nightclub in
Thailand, right. So we're like, oh, we're staying
close to the venue. This is perfect.
We don't have to travel in a foreign country where we don't
speak the language. Nobody disclosed to us that club
Illusion is on Bangalore Rd. which is the craziest St.
I've ever been on in my life. And you know, as a man out
there, you get physically, sexually assaulted non
consensually by workers of the night, we will call them, or
women of the night. The.
Family. Dude, the.
Family comes for you. There's a lot to process out
there. No club going at all for you.
I'm, I'm not single man. So like, there was a lot of it
that I just didn't feel comfortable engaging in this.
Guy, this guy's a choirboy. We were out there.
There's dudes out there that are fully wild.
They're like, OK, so there's someone that shall remain
nameless that was busting in Thailand prostitutes and to be
like, there's no child support. Laws out here.
Doc and I'm like. Whoa bro, you're living.
Can't. Get pregnant anyway you're.
Living your best life and we're looking.
Around like, where's Ben Davis? And he's back in the room, you
know what I mean? He's got like incense burning.
He's like meditating, right? You know what I mean?
Listen, I got a little crazy the night after the show.
FaceTime and his girlfriend from his hotel room.
I'm trying. We're all like bad influences,
like, oh dude, we're going out, you know, so I.
Did I lost several $100 in Thailand after the show?
Because what happened was me and Sammy J Luxton was my color
commentator. Sammy's a fantastic fighter.
Her boyfriend Dane and I, we took on several Thai lady boys
in in a never ending game of Connect Four.
They were kicking our fucking asses in Connect 4 and every
game was like 50 bucks. I've never played high stakes
like that right? And so I I was drunk.
I just kept going back and forth to the ATM losing games of
Kinect. 4. So that's as crazy as I got.
So so they're excellent at Connect Four and there's this
game where they hit nails into a piece of wood and like, yeah,
listen, you go out there, you think you got a like a strong
game of hitting a nail into wood or whatever, bro, you're not
going to beat these trannies, dude.
They're just they're going to mop you up.
Yeah. And then?
Not even a Mexican. We were out there well, so we
were out there with the building out there.
Just talk. I got you, bitch.
Yeah, they're. They're running it up in Connect
4 for money and you know. I got swindled.
Yeah. And then and then they make you
propositions like if you want to make your money back, then you
gotta you. Know you know I.
Think that's how they get you, right?
Just it just clicked who you were talking about, right, Man
who were man nameless. But it is really funny when
like, let's say you're in a group and they, they bring that
person to dinner. It's like they're like, I don't
know what to talk about with them for three hours.
Yeah, like so we're out there, the homie brings.
This chick to dinner. He met her in a fucking bar,
which out there if you meet him at, they're called bar girls,
right? So that's the word for
prostitute. So he met a bar girl and he's
bringing the bar girl to like production meetings, like table
reads, right? And if so, OK, so before you do
like a Hollywood production, you read at a table, right?
So you all have your script and then I go and you, you little
motherfucker, you took my girl and I'm going to get you, right?
Because I'm playing a pimp who's fighting a rival pimp.
And then, you know, Ben hops in and he's like, oh, Dorm master
is fucking great and crazy here, right?
So we do the whole table read. This dude's got a fucking hooker
with. Him.
Right. You know what I mean?
And they're all cuddled up, like, make it out like, yeah,
everybody's like, oh, so she's like.
Oh, what you do for work. Oh well.
I play dorm master. I'm a professional.
Dorm. Master.
And then she's like, oh, I master Dong too.
And I'm. Like what?
And then you know, and then Ben's like.
Ben's. Ben's the sweetest one of us
all. He's like, oh, so how was your
night? Oh, yeah.
I mean, maybe I, you know, like I was.
Trying to like actually, he's asking.
Nice. Questions, but like you can't
even ask like how was your night?
Right, because like she got railed by like however many
dudes like, but she wasn't attracted.
It's like really sad and you're like, dude, she's she's a great
person, you know what I mean? But she's in this line of work
and now my boy's bringing her to a table read and Ben's like
trying to make her feel comfortable and now it just got
really fucking awkward and weird.
I remember homie turned, I think this is like the day before he
left. He was like, I think I'm getting
married man. No you aren't.
Wait. It just made like to clarify she
wasn't he right? No, in this scenario, this she
was a she, but she was she was a very she.
Was a lady boy though, right? No, no, she was a very
experienced professional woman who's who's got a lot of
experience. I thought she was a woman.
I thought she was. I didn't I Oh, I.
Wasn't I thought I. Thought differently.
I mean, maybe. Again, I didn't check I so I
don't know. Ben was not convinced.
It's. Hard to tell.
It's hard to tell. He's like.
I'm gonna need you to pull down your pants and we're going to do
a full body cavity search to to verify We're going to oil check
for for facts and and chromosomes.
I've been doing some work with the peppermint hippo here in
town the strip. Club right?
Dude, I just met 2 chicks from there last night at Tough
Enough. Yeah, they they had a couple
girls down there. Who?
Who'd you meet? Her Instagram handle is Cashley
OK? Good name.
Great place. Nice.
Yeah. And then I met, I met another
girl. I don't, I don't remember.
Her name? Well anyway, so I met a couple
girls out there. Listen, I was very attracted to
the other one, but I didn't end up talking to her 'cause Cashley
was quite aggressive, you know what I mean?
And she was like dominating the conversation.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to holler at your
friend real quick. It's kind of wonder you can't
ruin it 'cause I had the guarantee.
Or do I swing for the fences? Yeah, so let let's say Cashley's
a very sweet girl. And I think for the right
person, she's fantastic. She's got a target audience
she's looking for, and that will be perfect for her.
I don't fit into that category, right.
And so I was more interested in the other one.
And I'm like, trying to like, hey, yeah.
So I know you want me to go to the strip club, but I'm saying
you want to go to breakfast. Yeah.
But anyway, so you work with Spearman.
Anyway, a couple of. Girls peppermint rhino
peppermint. Rhino.
There's Spearman hippo and peppermint rhino animal.
Kingdom but. A couple of those Thai chicks
down there, they say the crazy thing is when you go to
Thailand, if they're prettier, if they look perfect, it's going
to be a guy. They're they're going to be
leaner, they're going to have better bodies and better tits.
Yeah, so essentially, if she's got perfect hair, perfect
eyebrows, fake lips, fake tits, a fake ass, she's got a bigger
Dick than you do straight up. You know what I mean?
And that's the rule. So I had I had various ways of
determining one Step 1. You always got to ask, right?
So I would, you know, Hey, you lady or lady boy, right.
That's but like any sign of like Adam's apple, you got to bounce,
right? If the Thai people on average
aren't super tall, right? So if she's like 5-10 and a
straight dime, like dude, you can't even, you can't even press
your luck. I mean, unless you're into that.
But like, you know, if you're not into that, you don't even
want to take that risk. So did anybody mention to this
buddy at all? Let's call him Stew, right?
Stew is the guy that's. Let's call him Big Stew Dog.
Big. Stew.
So big Stew, right? Big Stew gets stewed up.
Yep, right. Does anybody talk to him about
this? I want to say that somebody at
least mentioned to him, hey, man, what are you doing?
Yeah. Are you talking about the table
read? Or just in general?
Any point on this trip or since? We talked to Stu.
We had to have mentioned the Stu dude.
What's? Going on.
You know, she's a she's a lady of the night.
And I had a conversation with him where I said, man, you know,
just so you know that like this is a meme, right?
Like you come out here, they pretend that they're into you
and they're trying to get like back to America.
And, you know, you're kind of like living the meme right now.
And he's like, Oh no, bro, I think it's, I think it's, he
thought it was real, you know what I mean?
You thought it was real. I'm like, listen man, more power
to you. She's either a really convincing
actress who's good at her job or they had a genuine connection.
And I'm not ruling out either possibility.
It's a probability game. We'll go 1% Genuine Connection
99. She's playing Big Stew like a
violin. I thought it was I'm a romantic.
OK. I believe in love.
I really think they fell in love.
They got on pretty well, you know, they they had a great
connection. What do you think it was?
He was paying her like. There's no way.
What do you mean? What do you think it was?
You're in Thailand. What made him fall in love with
her? Was it?
Did she give him an experience that he's never had before?
I mean, those are questions for Big Stu, but I guess if we had
to wager an answer, I'd go with good personality.
She was very pleasant. She was she was a fun person to
to have around because that's where that's where mine stops.
I didn't have anything more than.
That you were on a shorty's podcast for this recently.
He's got a buddy that he told me a story of that he likes to get
a finger in his ass and it's the hardest he's ever came in his
life. What do we call it?
A spark plug or something? What's the name for that?
Yeah. Is that what Stu went through to
the Stu? I mean that's a that's a high
clearance question that I don't. Even know if.
I have the passcode for it. Stu's in defeat, OK, yeah.
So I'm sure she had great feet. She had a great personality.
A lot of landscape. And so and so the other.
Thing too like so a lot of the dudes out there are just
dishevelled whatever Stu Stu's a put together charismatic guy.
He's put together fashionable. So I think that in one way like
she has a job but she's got to do her job.
She's probably really good at her job and very experienced and
like, you know. She crushed you, I mean.
Had several years of back-to-back to back-to-back
work all night, you know what I mean?
So she's probably really, really good.
For the time to another bag. She's in another bag, Yeah, and.
And at the same. Time though.
Stu is probably in the top percent of like fashion and like
coolness that she's going to experience on a day-to-day
basis, right? So it was probably like a win
for her and a win for him. Right, right, right.
Everybody, everybody got something out of it.
But I I think you were on to something because the male G
spots inside the ass, right? That's what I've heard.
I didn't take anatomy I've heard.
That too, but I've never. You never experimented.
I had someone get close and I knew where.
They were headed right you. Got to shut him.
Down missile defense system was like we got out of there real
quick. Sure, sure.
I. Puckered and I was out.
What? He's with the pucker.
Right, like tongue was getting close and oh shit, 'cause I.
Shrimp out, man, you got you got to hit the hips and then.
Exactly. Exactly.
You guys had another, you guys had that viral clip as well
where you guys were in Thailand, right?
BLOB Tang? You talking about BLOB Tang?
Are you talking about Dick kicking?
Are you talking about lady boy versus real boy?
There's. A lot of viral clips that fight
circuses. I'm talking about Ben Bane Davis
getting knocked out by King David.
Oh shit, I forgot about. That one I.
Forgot about that one listen he wanted.
To spar, he got to smoke. Straight up.
You know, I thought I could dethrone King David and I was
very incorrect, as I usually am when it comes to competition.
So so I fight professionally for real, in addition to slanging
Dick at fight circus, right? So when I'm not gyrating my
penis publicly for fun and profits, right, I'm scrapping
dudes in the cage. And you know, Ben and I, we're
like, we're in Thailand, we're going to spark, right?
But in my head I'm like, dude, this.
I never met him. I'm like, he's an influencer.
He's not going to fucking punk me on Instagram reels and and
land a fucking two piece in a biscuit and then post it and
make me look. So I had to get him before he
got me. And I'm very comfortable hitting
people. And so when I hit, it was not
like, like not like a oh, I'm mad at him.
It's just like, you know, man, that.
Was just business, baby. That was just a spar as a spar,
you know, and that was the game, right?
I I think it was a fantastic opportunity to learn from a true
pro. One thing about.
Ben, I got to give him credit for he's not afraid to get
knocked out to go viral. You know what I'm saying?
There's a lot of dudes that want to like, hey, I want to go
viral, but I don't want to take a risk, you know what I mean?
This dude will put it on the line, bro.
He'll make the walk. Someone say too too much, too
much. Someone say you do it too much
man. Like like maybe like get hit
less? If I ever make it to the second
round, that's probably my corner with.
Saying hey can. You stop getting it.
We need to get OK will somebody. Hire this guy for a commentator
gig. Stop getting punched in the
face, please. You guys are either really good
or you're really good because I can't tell if you're fucking
with your. No, no, no.
That that. Is a real blow.
Yeah, that's a. Are you are you being serious?
No. Yeah.
Watch the clip back. Watch the clip back point right
now. I had thought that was WWE has
at its finest. Well, the angle, so obviously
the angle that you're you're looking at it from was a little
tough and it looks a bit goofy. But if we add a couple more
angles of it, you could clearly. See, well, knowing you was the
biggest part of it. Knowing how goofy you are and
how great of an actor and how into it you are, I knew you
could pull that off. Well, yeah, and I know that he's
not. He's not afraid to get hit.
And in the event that I did, I he's not hurt, no, don't get me
wrong. But if I heard him, if I heard
him with a shot, I know he's not going to get mad at me and it's
not going to fuck the whole promotion up, right?
So at one point I felt like he hit.
OK, so sometimes I fight with my hands down a little and I felt
like he had kind of landed a little on me.
And that's what I'm saying. Like I'm not gone.
You're not. Going to let this.
Guy in all offense bro. But I'm I don't know him, so
I'm. Looking at him like dude, this
fucking influencer thing. Oh.
Yeah, you're not joking right now.
Holy shit. No.
And then I'm like, I'm, I'm a pick it up a little and then I'm
like, oh shit. I was down and.
Then and then and then. So Fight Circus already had an
issue with me, right? Because when I did the the
casting, they said I was concerned I might be a little
too extreme, right, Because I'm, you know what I mean?
I like at first it's hard to process what's going on.
You go to King David MMA on Instagram, you're like, there's
a lot here, right? And so now I'm like, dude, I
hurt the fucking in my head. I'm like, dude, this is going to
be a great viral clip. But at the same time, like we're
not we're not like super tight boys at that time.
And he's with like, to me, the production side, like he's he's
one of those dudes. He's not, you know what I mean?
And then he's like telling me, oh, I thought Anderson Silva's
kid and shit. And I'm like, dude, I don't know
how to process him either, right?
So I hoped it would be all right.
I. Wasn't bragging, I think we were
talking about experience. And I was like, oh, I've done
this, this and that before, but but yeah, I mean, I was I, I
think that was a big thing is we didn't want to fuck up the vibe,
right? And thankfully we, we had so
many fun memories after that. I was down for a couple minutes
and we were attacking Muy Thai and I remember the guy who was
the name of the instructor, the guy that was holding pads for
us, really famous Muy Thai referee.
And we wanted him in there because we recognized, hey, this
could get a bit hairy. And so I'm down for three
fucking minutes, dude, and he's just cradling me and you know,
when I come to him fucking my little baby in his arms, right,
King David still on the ropes. It was a tough one, but you
know, we, we had a good memory. We had a great memory.
We. Had grappled before that too, so
I knew that he was a little tough and it, it might get
weird, but yeah, you know, so that that turned out to be like
the the spark of our friendship. What?
Amazing friendship you get. Slapped by your boys?
Yeah, I do. OK, well, you're not a pussy,
you know what I mean? He's a hand, right?
So, yeah. And then, you know, ever ever
since then, we've been boys. So.
And ever since then you've had another huge fight that got put
together. Unfortunately, yeah.
BKFC, that was an interesting one.
How did that get? Put together in the first place.
The the short story of it is I'm coming back from an event and
Oscar Willis calls me and he says, listen, now that you know,
Connor is involved to be KFC and has equity, they want to push it
on the Mac life. Well, what would justify more
exposure on the Mac life? Oscar Willis fighting, You know,
he did tough enough a couple years ago, which was fantastic.
And when he pitched this idea to them, they loved it.
They were like, Oscar, who you going to fight?
Who who would make sense? And he called me and he was
like, dude, I think, I think, you know, this would be fun for
us to do. And I within about 10 seconds
said yes. And with how the fight went,
maybe I should have considered it more, but but it immediately
I was like that be a great opportunity And I had about it
was a six week camp, but two of those weeks I had shows and he
was travelling I think the last three weeks.
So he had he had a really strong first three weeks, I think at
extreme couture and then he had to go work.
I had a really strong last couple weeks heading into it.
So we almost had the exact opposite fight camp experience.
So I didn't feel like he was getting a better edge training
wise and I don't think he felt like I was getting a better edge
training wise. I felt like it was 5050
competitive as fuck. And and you know, ultimately
styles make fights and he had a great game plan and melted me
apart. So I mean going into it you
didn't even ask number numbers wise what what we're looking.
At I tossed a couple numbers at BKFC that they weren't fans of.
They're like, take a zero off the end of that, you know what I
mean? Like, well, 'cause you know, and
I was asking for both of us. I think what I told them is, you
know, I, I, I wanted a specific number for both Oscar and I
because I'm like, this is incredibly crazy and stupid.
And I think at that point, Bryce Hall was the only guy that was
outside of traditional combat sports to get in a BKFC.
So I was like, let's make it worth everybody's while.
And. And worth it, right?
Like to put it in context, if you've never been to BKFC, it's
the sketchiest thing you've ever seen in your life live like
dudes are getting stretchered out, people's faces are getting
busted wide open. They have like vaginas above
their eyes just bleeding into their dude.
Guys are like winning fights and breaking their both their hands
or like one of their hands is like the bones coming out of it
and they can't fight anymore. And it's like that guy was
winning and he had to quit because his, his middle knuckle
is popped out of his skin and there's blood going everywhere
and he needs medical attention. So when they when he when Ben's
saying like, we need to make it worth it, like dude, there's
like it's the sketchiest thing I've ever seen live outside of
like somebody getting jumped in the street like an actual
sanctioned event. BKFC is is.
Nutty to watch live. It's insane and.
So he's putting his health on the line.
Well, especially 'cause like, I have to go do these broadcasts
and if I get a busted nose that's gonna take a long time to
heal, might not look the same, right?
And so I was trying to consider all of these other variables,
but like I always do, it was a great opportunity.
And I never like things coming on my table and saying no
because I'm never, I don't want to look back and go, man, I wish
I did that man. Fighting Oscar in a bull
fighting ring in Spain on BKFCI. Wish I did that.
No, I'm going to do it. And then if it goes poorly or it
goes well, I'm still going to be glad that it occurred.
So, you know, thankfully we we agreed on some numbers and got
it done less than I wanted. I'll be fine saying that it was
less than I wanted, but I recognize the opportunity was
worth, you know, more than the the financial less.
Than you want it sounds like. Still a pretty penny.
Yeah, it was great. No, I mean like, like it's it is
stupid that I've made a lot more than most fighters ever will.
Isn't that pretty? My fighting career?
It's fucking stupid. It's that's not how it should
happen. I think that, you know, I think
that the. I think that is how it should
happen, right? Because like really what, what
is it? It's fight and it's business,
right? Right.
Well, you got the business side down.
You're bringing eyeballs, you're selling pay per views, right?
Some other dude might be training in his garage or a gym
or whatever, like super good at fighting, but it's like, no, no
one cares, right? So if you bring a story, you're
going to scrap the dude for Mac life, right?
And people are interested in that because Connor is going to
show up and now the pressures on and the lights and bull fighting
arena and all this shit. Well then dude, you deserve to
get compensated. And I'm not saying the other
dude doesn't right, But I'm just saying to like, oh, you know, I
you shouldn't get paid less if anything, right, If maybe the
other guy should be paid more. Right, he's bringing the value
less he's. Bringing the value with the
entertainment, right He actually bringing an audience.
It was the biggest fight of that card.
No disrespect to my man Austin Trout or the title fights that
were on it, and those were some fantastic scraps.
But when you look at the numbers, when you look at who
Dana White was talking about that week, who Rogan was
mentioning that week out of Sanya was mentioning that week,
it was me and Oscar, you know, And that was I think an
understanding that Oscar and I had at the outset was this was
going to be a really and. That's a value you bring too,
because Oscar can't no offense, like fight a a super good pro,
right? And then he can't fight some
influencer that doesn't know how to fight at all.
So he's in a weird space where he's like a pretty good amateur
boxer, but at the same time he needs somebody that's one, not a
pro, but two, like we'll fight him, but there's also an
influencer. So it's like this weird mix that
kind of Ben can fulfill in that like niche, you know what I
mean? So to me it's like yeah the the
if the fight takes 2 to tango. Specifically in the media side
of things, right in the media market, who else would there
have been for Oscar to go against?
Exactly. Yeah, I think it it makes it
made the most sense. And that's when he called me.
The thing that I realized immediately was like, there's
nobody else really that could probably do this outside of.
It was a perfect storm, it seemed like.
And I had sparred both of them, right?
So we had trained in Thailand. And then Oscar came to Extreme
Couture and I didn't know who was going to win.
Really. No, I did it.
I really did it. OK, Because so, so there's
there's X Factor with Ben, Ben's Ben's very well buttoned up and
composed and professional, but he's, he's got like this like
underlying, like suppressed rage in his eyes.
And I'm like, dude, if the rage comes out, who knows what might
happen? Because sometimes it's not
necessarily like a technical battle.
It's like someone fucker's got the dog in him, you know what I
mean? And I know that Ben's not afraid
to scrap, right? So I was like, dude, I was like,
they're both pretty inexperienced.
I was like, I, I sparred Oscar. And I didn't know, like, at the
time that he was with Macklife, right?
I just was like, hey, man, you want to get around because we're
both in the same class. And he's like, oh, yeah, man,
I'm an amateur boxer. Is it cool if we just box?
And then we box? And then I'd landed a couple
shots on him and he was like a little frustrated.
And I'm like, dude, I got 11 pro fights, bro.
What are you frustrated about? You know?
And then it turns out that he's going to be fighting Ben and
like he's got this pressure on him and all this shit.
And I was like, OK, well, so the fact that he got frustrated that
somebody landed on him, that's a good sign, right?
But at the same time, you know, I know Ben's a fucking dog.
And I'm like, dude, this is this is the most entertaining fight
to me, like the most interesting fight on the card because it's
like bare knuckle in itself is cool.
But when I know. Both the people.
You know what I mean? And I'm like, do I've trained
with both of them and I don't know how it's going to go take
my money, you know what I mean? Just fucking yes.
I. Mean I would pay for more media
members to fight to be honest. I think everybody should, man.
I think there's a lot of people that in this space want to say
that they have a voice. And thankfully this this is big
enough that everyone can say what they want and everyone can
have the platform and shows that they want.
But if you really want credibility and legitimacy,
there's no reason why you shouldn't want to try and get in
there at least once. And I'm not saying you need to
go all the way to Spain, fight in front of 13,000 people, take
a smoker, right? Or just train and then take
something local like, you know, I, I, I think that it's.
You were telling me about the emotions that you felt backstage
and, and he's in the back and people are getting fucked up,
right? And he's like, dude, I'm, I'm
going to make the walk. You know what I mean?
And like like. So the fact that he's felt that
fucking fear and that like, holy shit, my health is really on the
line, it makes him a better commentator now, right, As
opposed to somebody else who hasn't felt that.
Walking that walk. Oh, you know, so and so has
really got a fucking bite down on his mouthpiece.
And I'm like, bro, yeah, you think that right?
Until you've been fucking rocked and now it's time to bite down.
If you've never done it, you don't know what you're talking
about, right? So this dudes done it.
I think from a play by play angle, I get to make and build
moments in a more effective manner for that exact reason,
right when they're making that walk, when there are such high
stakes on the line. As someone that's been in that
position and have have been in those shoes, I I think as a play
by play, I can inflate these fights to a bigger degree for
these athletes. That's more authentic because
like you said, anyone can just look at it and go, oh, he's got
to dig under hooks and he's got to reposition.
But it's like, if you haven't fought, then that that really is
just, you know, a bit of a baseless opinion.
Right. It's like, it's like
speculation. And you see how articulate he is
too, right? I'm over here like.
See, he's good 'cause he's not. A pussy And he's like David and
what? He's like, look at, you know, I.
I try and be authentic. I'm like, dude, that's perfect.
Yeah, so. Look at the lexical durability
is. But what was that like?
I mean because it is different going out with gloves going
knowing you are going to be bare knuckle.
Yeah, it was weird, man. It was tough.
We did a lot of work in camp to try and replicate what that
would feel like with no gloves. And so we, we were doing the
Karate Combat on pads and on the bag and like the Karate Combat
gloves were about under 4 oz, just under 4.
So really light hard spars and seven oz.
So I, I, I thought that I had a really good grasp on what it's
going to be like. And then when in there and I
start eating those shots and I'm trying to cover up and just,
there's nothing that's stopping his shots from coming through.
I was like, yeah, this isn't going well.
Like I remember. So I remember after the first
knockdown, he he catches me this beautiful uppercut in the
clinch. I go down and Connor's sitting
right there and I make eye contact with him and he's like,
you call, keep your chin poked my and I was like, thanks man.
And it went up and got knocked down three more times.
So but it was weird. It hurt and I remember like.
Thanks, Connor. Yeah, thanks, buddy.
But I remember I was telling myself like right before I
walked out and there were so many complications that that I
won't, you know, bore anybody with.
But like, it was a difficult week.
And right before I walked out there, I was just telling myself
I'm a showman, I'm an entertainer, they want to show.
I know I can put that on. And it was a fun fight.
It was not a great competitive display from my end.
But I think if you watch that fight, it's far more
entertaining than Derrick Lewis and Francis and Ganu, right?
So. He's calling out name.
No disrespect to those two,
they're fantastic, but like there's a lot of fights that
have come and gone where it's like, all right, well, that
happened, but I think this one, you know.
It was. It was a.
It was a fun fight. If you haven't seen it, go watch
it back Dan Davis. Go watch me die.
Versus Oscar from the math Life and tell me if it's entertaining
or not because it was. It was a fun fight.
What was the game plan coming in?
So the game plan was round one. We were going to really take
some time off and establish the jab.
I wanted to keep him at the end of the length because I was a
little bit taller and I think I had a little bit more reach than
him. And I recognized that.
You know, what's funny is like I didn't want a brawl.
I didn't want to engage in the firefighter, the trenches.
I wanted to fight smart, which might have been the dumbest
thing because like you said, BKFC is fucking insane and so.
And any short rounds. Super short rounds, so the
smarter approach, yeah. And so and so he's got the right
approach for like a 12 round boxing match with big gloves,
right? You know, I'm for real.
And so everybody would think that's the correct approach, but
I've cornered it. BKFC, dude, it's it's like balls
to the wall. Hurt the motherfucker before he
hurts you, straight up. And if you can hurt the dude,
now he's behind. And once you're behind, it's
you. Yeah, you have to.
It's a totally different game. I think the big thing that, you
know, during fight camp, we worked one specific combo that I
just was so confident in, It was that 2-3 and I thought either
going forwards when I'm putting the pressure on him, that 2/3
was going to be there. And then even if he was trying
to get in my pocket when I'm coming backwards, bop bop, like
walk into that left hook. The problem was when the fight
was occurring, I couldn't land it at all.
Like no distance management. I, I just couldn't.
He was just so pressure heavy. Off we weren't expecting.
Because we watched that Tough Enough fight and like that was a
couple years ago, so we weren't thinking that he was going to
fight the same way. But when you watch that fight,
like he was so patient and there was a lot less volume pressure
right off the bat. So for him to jump in and just
straight shots, which I probably should have done was more
straight shots, right? I, I was, I was like, damn, this
is a bit surprising. But like I said it perfect game
plan from him, you know, talk about and that was the thing I
said after the fight. I was so happy and proud of him
because it was a great, fantastic display.
I was as proud of him as I was bummed for myself.
So it was a weird, it was a really weird position for me to
be in mentally. But at the end of the day, the
way I think of it is if I was going to lose anybody, I thought
it was him. And so when Conor McGregor's
telling Ben. You got to keep your chin up.
Mate, right now when Ben sees a Conor McGregor fight having
tried to land a 2-3, it puts a new context on what Conor was
able to do to let's say Eddie Alvarez where you're like, dude,
I've tried to land a specific combo in a like, how did this
dude land four shots on a guy who's falling down?
Who's a champion? And so when I'm saying he's a
better commentator for having fought, I would encourage more
commentators to fight so that it's one thing to like
intellectually know, it's another thing to like actually
have done, you know? Right.
And so obviously you've done boxing now Bare knuckle boxing,
MMA Next with John Anik. Against John, I saw someone put
this up on Twitter. They're like, all right, genuine
question, who would win? And everyone said that I would
die. I don't know.
I mean, I I think Annex talked about doing MMA before, but I
know that he's not super interested in it.
I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight John, man.
I don't want to fight anybody that works as a play by play
commentator like the fights that I have, especially from this
point forward. I don't know a lot of question
marks. I don't even know, but I've
never. You don't have to say names, but
I'm genuinely curious like what are you looking for?
Like if not that you have to fight again, right?
But like if you were to fight again, would it be more of a
you're saying you don't want to fight a play by play
commentator, right? But you would like to fight.
Somebody else in the media. Right.
No. Like Dan, Tom.
Like a fighter. Dan Tom.
No bro, it's my boy. Dan's my man, no?
Big shouts to Dan. No, I, I'm.
Telling like you know what I'm telling.
Well, I'm telling be funny. See that be?
Viral. What I'm saying?
So he's got a different like metric of like, I don't want to
fight a guy that like I think I could beat.
He's like, I want to fight the craziest fucking viral moment in
a what not to saying that like there's not people out there you
could go viral with. You could still beat, but like
BLOB 10 would be a challenging fight, you know what I'm saying?
But that would be visually appealing.
It would be like, whoa, these two like, you know.
I think for me, what I look for next, if I was going to fight,
which I'm not actively interested in, if I never fight
again, I wouldn't be mad. I feel like I've checked the
boxes that I needed to. I, I didn't have anything to
prove even before the Gabe Silva fight, even before the Brad
Bolton CFFC match, which again, both of those were not entirely
competitive or fair, but I didn't have anything to prove.
But I've gone out and this is all extracurricular.
This is icing on top. So again, if I had to do
something, it would have to be MMA next because it's the only
thing I haven't done. I've done jiu jitsu, I've done
boxing, I've done karate combat, I've done bare knuckle.
The last Infinity stone that I could possibly collect is a MMA
debut. Now the question is where, where
would I do that? What platform would it be on for
me? I look at it and I go, I'm a man
of constant escalation. I have to always be one upping
or else I'm going backwards and regressing, which is just
stupid. I don't think anyone should do
that. So I go, I look at it, I go BKFC
13,000 people bullfighting ring in Spain.
The only place that I could compete at next would be UFC.
Right, it would be. I have to get like and listen.
I'm fine if they throw me on Contender series, all right in
some random showcase or like prelims of an apex right against
somebody, I don't care. But that's the only logical
place. That's the only logical place.
That they can put me on. To me it's logical.
To me it would make sense. I know to many others it
wouldn't, but I just don't think I could really like go from,
from, you know, what I've done within BKFC and, and how big
that was to them backwards. And so I'd like.
I'd rather not fight than go backwards.
Interesting. Really.
It's like even if it was with Bellator PFL.
Oh, PFL. Maybe if PFL wanted to throw me
some money, maybe I'd do PFL. Ben Ben Ben Davis on the Jake
Paul undercard. Jake Paul's PFL debut You know
what I. Mean, there we go.
Maybe as his opponent. Yeah, well, if that I mean shit,
actually talking about people in media that I don't like that
Derek from better media guy, right.
If he ever was serious about competing.
I know, I know Oscar wanted that.
I would love that fight, but I I don't think he'll ever.
Keep weighs like $1.30 right? Buck 20.
Cut down I will remove my left arm to make his weight so.
So what do you weigh right now? Like 50 or something.
I was, I weigh my stuff. Yes, I was 156.
Oh. Dude, we'll get you to 30 no
problem. Easy.
No problem. I told my coach I was like,
dude, if we ever do this again, bantamweights, where we got to
fucking be. Listen man, that that guy, if he
doesn't say yes, he's ducking straight up because you're,
you're not a £250 dude, you know what I mean?
You're not 100 fight fucking pro fighter veteran.
You're not Mike Tyson, you know what I'm saying?
Every everybody wants to be around it, but nobody wants to
step in there and get the smoke, is the issue.
So I mean, we could probably get that lined up right if Jake Paul
finally does do APFL fight, which he has signed to them,
right, Right. If you get a fight on that card
against better Derek. I'd be down for it or anyone
else like I think I think if Jake.
Paul Holler at Ben Davis looks. Great.
I think if if there was a couple other names right that were
floated on me and and Jake Paul was doing MMADB, being on that
card would be a lot of fun. I think that'd be a lot of fun.
Well. I I want you to fight non rose
and fight circus. I don't.
I'm gonna beat my ass. No, no, no.
And Muy Thai she would. Yeah.
But if you could. Change.
As an MMA I have no edge even if the rules set change.
You can. You can shoot.
Bro why I don't? Grapple, yeah I would need a 9mm
to beat. On yeah, OK, right.
So. Yeah, me.
The shooting. What wrestling credentials?
Just. Meet him on the way in I.
Got hope bro, I got hope. It's the optimist.
It's the glass half full of mindset.
I'm like you. Could beat a lady boy bro, you
know. You gotta believe a.
Lady Boy. Yeah.
Bro no shot dude. She's been founded by plenty of
men, you know what I mean? She.
Especially had big stews in her corner.
Big Stew in the corner. She can take a beat in and keep
on eating less. Oh gosh.
No, I've either of you hang hung out with big stews since.
I've, I've hung out with him in a couple different cities.
Yeah. And you know, he's he's.
How's he doing? Man, he's a change man.
He's what happens in Thailand stays in Thailand.
Well, that's true, I guess. Not unless we're on the Still
Friends show. We're talking.
About. No, so he's he's currently in
America and he currently does not have any Thai women living
with him to my knowledge. Is he too single?
Has he found someone or is he? He's flying solo so.
He's playing the field, yeah. You know.
What? I mean, he's playing the field.
Big Stu keeps his options open. I've not seen him since.
Thailand, man. No, no, no.
We'll all have to hang out. One day we'll figure out a city
or something. Not Thailand and not nowhere in.
Thailand freaking out a city. Oh base dudes like poo cat.
I've never. Been.
Who? Knows what I like and what I
don't like. I I like it, Right, Right.
You know, you never know what that happens.
You've been a poo cat, right I've.
Never. No, no.
No. Oh man.
But you've fought before, yes, right.
So when are you getting back in there?
That's the question, man. I.
I need some stem cells. To be honest, I've got a little
bit too many things Jack. I'm I'm a disabled veteran,
right? So like I'm like, I'm jacked up.
I've got my back should be fused, but there's just no discs
there anymore. Oh wow.
So I've got a bunch of things that I should either have
surgery on or go see some stem cell specialists.
Oh shit. I'm.
Going to start running steroids. I think that's my next gambit.
It's just. Stuffing smoke straight.
Up bro. Do you imagine me just walking
out there built like a tank? Now we're talking bang.
Now, yeah, you got. Ben before now don't talk to
Ben. They drug test it, just the cup
melts in their hands. You can't even test the, that's
how drugged up I am. Fucking radioactive talking
about cups. Melting.
Yeah, this weekend, right? The UFC event.
Kaya Sakura. Do you think he's got a shot?
No, I mean everyone has a shot. I'm joking.
It's everyone has a chance and Kai is a very decorated fighter.
I think he's got 26 pro fights. Japanese.
Right, Japanese, that's your words, I think.
I think what Kai brings is like the chip on the shoulder, right.
You're the cat that's debuting for the title.
I think that he's big underdog plus 260 + 300.
So I think there's a chip on the shoulder.
My only question is, because of the rule set difference, is he
going to come in here and there's going to be a moment
where he's like, yeah, I'm going to throw a knee to the head of a
downed opponent. You know what I mean?
Like I've if if he does that, give him the title.
Soccer. Give him the title.
He's earned it at that point. Exactly.
It's a tough fight though man. I think Pantoja the big thing
for I don't honestly brother fight is one thing, but he
shaved his hair where he got the buzz cut.
Like Samson, he lost his power. That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean. He.
Definitely doesn't look as smooth, no.
I saw the photos of him doing the shoot with the belt and I'm
just like, what happened, man, with the aura go, you know, but
he's Pantoja is one of the most fantastic fighters on the
roster. 9 and O against the top ten in the flyweight division.
Like that's bananas, right? And I think for the UFC brass,
they looked at 1:25 and we're like, we don't have fucking
anybody that he can fight. So that's why Earthsec kind of
got fast pass to the title shot shot and earned that shot.
Then Kai's coming in and debuting for a title shot.
I love it because it's insane. No other division, you see this
type of movement and opportunity.
So you know, if you're a 130 fiver, try and find those extra
10 lbs because you could you you could see yourself fighting for
a belt in 12 months, right? Right, right.
It's kind of crazy. Yeah.
Especially because. I mean what, he's Owen or two in
O against Rory Val, right? 2IN O against Rory Val. 3IN O
against Moreno, yeah, there's really no one else.
He's just lapped the division multiple times already at the OR
at least the two guys at the top right, I mean.
Figgy's the only guy that's beaten him in the last couple
years, right? And now obviously Davison's at
bantamweight. So if if coming off the loss to
Jan, if I'm Figgy, I'd go well, maybe I'll test the the
flyweight waters again. I think it might be impossible
for him to get down there, but you know when you're the last
guy to beat the champ. Do you think he gets an instant
shot if he was to go back down to flyweight?
I don't know if he'd get an instant shot necessarily, but if
he was like, hey, give me Brandon Moreno, right?
Moreno Figgy again for the 5th time, who knows?
I it's the problem is Fig. He's also beating so many guys
in the. I would watch that though.
I watch it. I watch it, Moreno.
Again. Yeah, Are you?
You gotta get to 125, man. You shave off, Yeah.
Listen, I'm, I'm, I'm struggling with my weight right now.
All I all I eat is fucking ground beef and fucking steak
and lift weights. Just meat, baby.
Just meat. I'm on a all meat diet.
Pause. No ditty, you know, no, no
Thailand. But yeah, man, some of these,
some of these dudes cut a fucking tremendous amount of
weight and it's really incredible.
Like just like dude, how, how are you not that you know to
make those weight classes? What's the most weight you've
got? The most I I cut 14 lbs on an
airplane on a 30 hour notice fight one time, you know what I
mean? I started to like kind of pass
out in the fucking Uber, you know, and to.
The way it's in. You're dying in the Uber to the
weight. Yeah.
And I'm like, hey, I'm going to just lay on the floor next to
the scale and then just let me know when I can weigh in.
And then I just like stood on the scale for a little bit and.
Then Jesus. Right.
Yeah, that one. That one was a tricky one.
This last fight that I cut all the weight for, I cut down to 55
and I, I've been lifting so I'm getting a little bigger and I
was 7524 hours after and I was still rehydrating and eating.
So I put £20 back on. And then the guy acted like a
vagina and pulled out of the fight when we were the main
event for the title. But I looked that man dead in
his eyes and he knew I was going to bounce his head off that red
canvas. So he did the right thing.
By he's got a family, you know what I mean?
He saved himself the brain trauma, he saved himself the
embarrassment in front of all his friends.
You know, he has to live with the fact that he knows that he's
a pussy and he and I know it. But aside from that man, you
know, it's not for everybody. So he was the main event.
He was the champion. It was his hometown.
I flew out. I cut the weight, you know.
And but yeah, that one, that one was probably a quick little 20
in a few days. That's rough.
Where'd you have to fly for that one?
That was Oklahoma, Oklahoma and so so this gentleman is a big
time tickle ticket seller. This gentleman is a big time
ticket seller in Oklahoma. And I pulled up and he's 40
years old. So they had asked for somebody
over the age of 35 to fight him. So they thought they were
getting a decrepit dude for this dude to sell tickets and sell
merch and beat up. And then they put the belt on
him and I showed up and I got fucking nose to nose and toes to
toes with the dude. And I was looking.
And so when I'm at the fucking weigh in and I'm fucking staring
the dude down, I'm looking at him like I just, I have visions.
Like I have like hydraulic arms and then I'm like Nightcrawler
and I can just disappear. Oh man, I just visualize myself
breaking his face and his fucking head exploding.
So I'm making it his in his eyes like that.
And he's sitting there thinking, am I going to make it home for
dinner? Yeah.
Exactly see my children. And then he went and sat in the
corner and I'm still looking at him.
I'm hyping my dude thinks he can fucking fight me.
He had me fly to fucking Oklahoma.
He thinks he's going to embarrass me.
He made. Me.
Come to Oklahoma. Fucking.
My fucking elbows through his head.
I'm like looking at him like, dude, fucking look at me, bro,
you know what I mean? And I'm like ready to scrap him.
I get, I get intense, right? And he looks over at me and he's
like, hey, hey, man, I'm not staring at you.
I I, I just forgot my glasses so I can't see.
And I was like, oh man. I'm going to beat.
Up an old man I was like I'm. 43 at the time, so I'm.
Older than he is, right? I mean, but like I'm like 25,
you know what I'm saying? Like I got youthful energy right
I. Got 10 XL. 10 XL, I got the best
fucking cardio in the gym, you know what I mean?
And so in my head, I'm like, dude, this guy's head's getting
bounced. I'm I'm the refs going to have
to pull me off. And I think he felt that energy,
Yeah. That's crazy.
I cut 8 lbs for I mean that was I was like was that?
Your biggest cut? Biggest cut, only cut I've ever
done. Yeah.
And it was, it wasn't that bad. I mean, I did sweat suit and
then we do 45 minute run, go do like 3 rounds on the pads and
then get in a little sauna. Did it like an afternoon.
But that was the first time I was like, shit, I got to
actually cut, you know, I felt interesting.
To restrict carbs or anything like that.
I eat what I want. I did.
I mean, I had healthy like, you know, there was a TGI Friday's
next to the hotel and so I was getting like tea.
Chicken. Breast.
I was getting broccoli some rice, you know.
Weight cutting tips would ban the bane Davis.
Guys go to TGI Friday. That does bring the question,
when is your next fight, David? So we got Fight Circus coming up
in March, which is a whole logistical thing, so it's fine.
Finally we got a date in March and that's happened at the
Palms. But I told my manager, I said,
listen man, the answer is yes, bro.
I don't need to know their record.
I don't need to know their fighting style.
I don't need to know who they are or where they're from.
Forge my signature on the contract and tell me where to
show up. I will show up on weight and
ready to send my my shin through any man on the planet's
forehead. I love it.
That's actually a great answer, but yeah, right.
So yeah, I got no fight right now, so.
Not yet. Would you do?
Something before March or do. Something before March.
Do something today, yesterday, tomorrow, next week, last week.
The answer's yes. Ben, did you not just hear what
I? Said I did.
The answer's yes bro. Yeah.
But that doesn't mess anything up with Fight Circus for you.
No, I mean I'll, I'll scrap three times before March and
then still go to fight circus, shake my Dick and have a fucking
pro fight afterwards, you know? Listen I'm listen bro, I love
life. You know what I mean?
So I'm not. Looking at it like it's like,
oh, I got to fight and I'm like, dude, I get to fight.
I get to get locked in a cage with another dude and send my
fists, elbows, knees and shins out his head and they're not
going to take me to jail, bro, let's go.
It's dude. We're so we're so like
domesticated in real life, you know what I mean?
And then like in the cage, you get to be an animal.
And I'm like, dude, I get to. So we're spiritual, we're
physical and we're mental, right?
And so in, in the, in the physical world, we're doing this
and we're like talking. And then in cage you get to be
like. You know what I mean?
You just like snort and growl and call them dude all kinds of
derogatory names while you're elbowing him and like I'm going
to knock you out in front of your mother bro.
Fucking listen to your corner posture up and he postures up.
You put your fucking stand up. And gun a head.
Kick at him again and you just see the panic set in his eyes
and you're like, dude, he's going to shoot again.
This fucking pussy ass panic wrestler.
I'm going to butcher him. And that's like a very, very,
very, very good feeling to have. And I love that feeling.
And I'll, I just, I'm so grateful I get to fight.
So that's that's where my head's at.
That's why some people are made to be fighters.
This is King David was fucking built to be a fighter.
You know this. Is you talk about that
animalistic thing and the guy Igor right the the UFC fighter
who was taking down a turn a bit old boy.
Right. Yeah.
How do you blame him? He.
Went a little too far. He got a little too lost in the
sauce on that one, you know? Yeah, yeah, sometimes.
Sometimes it gets a little crazy in there.
I mean, I've had my eyes raked, you know, I've had people stick,
like thumbs into stuff. You know, one time this dude,
little steroid head, right, he was picking me up in the air and
I'm like elbow in his head. And then after the fight, I'm
like, dude, my elbow's so fucking sore right now.
I'm like, what is that? I was like, oh, that's from
elbowing him. And then I was like, dude,
imagine what his head feels like right now.
And I went in the back and he's just like slumped against the
wall and his head's wrapped up like a turban with.
Ice. And he just looks like he looks
like a fucking pumpkin head at this point.
He's got like like welts all over his face.
And I'm just like, dude, I turned that man into walk
pumpkin, let's go. It's not even.
Halloween. I was spamming leg kicks, right?
And I could not walk. My foot was swollen like a
fucking softball. I'm in the back.
Like fuck, I'm such a bitch. I'm such a bitch.
He comes walking into the back with crutches and then some
people like pick them off a crutch and they're carrying him
in. He couldn't walk because his leg
was so jacked up. Is that the?
Part that they don't see, right? They don't see you like, dude,
my foot is damaged from fucking that guy up.
And that guy is like headed to the hospital because he can't
get on an airplane, because he'll get compartment syndrome
in his leg because his leg's so damaged that he can't fly on.
He'll get a blood. Clot yeah, and and like a lot of
people don't realize that, that that there's like consequences,
right. It looks like hey, we got bright
lights and like there's ring girls and everybody's happy.
Hey cheering It's like dude in the back man there there's like
blood and tears and dudes crying and people puking on the floor
and like a guy got kicked in the nuts last night and and he I was
concerned. I thought they popped a
testicle, bro. It was so this dude was like,
I'm not, I'm not putting him on blast.
I'm not judging him. I don't know what he was
spitting. OK, so he's a cage fighter.
He's physically crying from the pain.
So I'm like, maybe his nut got caught in the tie cup in the tie
cup crushed it when he got kicked and it it was brutal,
bro. The dudes in the back just like
like basically vomiting from a nut kick.
Which is like when when you see those incidents play out and you
know how tough fighters are to get them to that point.
That's why I always say that's real.
Like very few times is someone faking it right or playing up an
injury or a foul. Like more often than not, it
genuinely, it's just like, these are the toughest sons of bitches
in the world and that's the most painful fucking thing that you
can experience. So like I, I, I was sitting
there with you last night and it was down for minutes and minutes
and minutes. And I'm just like, I'm just
like, I empathize with that man. That sucks.
I've never damaged someone enough to so have these
experiences. See.
Ben's a better person, worse than me when it when it bends.
Like I empathize. And when I saw him get kicked in
the nuts and he couldn't get up. I'm not saying this is the right
thing to do. I'm just saying this is what I
did. I yelled.
Small injury. You Dick head.
And this was. In front of the the like the
peppermint hippo girls and yeah, you know, and dude.
'S mom is right there. He turns.
Around what is wrong with you and I'm just like.
OK, I said that out loud, All right, So anyway, and then it.
Turns out the dude's really injured.
And now I'm an asshole. Right.
So yeah, that was that was the nut shot it.
Reminds me of that fight of the the two heavyweights.
Old boy kicks him in the in the in the groin and then the other
dude lands in an overhanded. PFL fight.
Yeah, yeah, that's an that was an amazing type of the best PFL
highlight of all time. You know what I mean?
Yeah, the the PFL has ever had it.
Epitomizes the organization. Or there's a simultaneous nut
shot and a overhand that knocks someone down.
I'm just like. What do you make of that with a
lot of the PFL or Bellator guys, excuse me, coming out and
saying, you know, they've been struggling to get fights
throughout the year and. Well Patchy Mix is the best
fighter in the world. He's currently signed a Bellator
and he needs a fight. The the best guy in the world in
his prime and he's not fighting. It's it's crazy.
So listen, I hope Bellator gets him 100 fights and if not, let
him go to where he can flourish because everybody that trains
with Patchy will agree Patchy's the best person on the planet.
Well, I mean, we've have you seen him grapple with Rob?
Listen, what what happens in the gym stays in the gym.
So I've got no comment on that subject matter, but I'm just
saying that Patchy's a bad motherfucker, dude, Listen, No,
no, no. No.
What's the real though like?
And, and stylistically things are different, right?
I train with both of them. I'm bigger than both of them.
Patchy fucks me up, bro. It it it like keeps me up at
night, you know what I mean? I'm like this dude, I outweigh
this dude and he's balling me up and I'm just like, he's my like
inspiration to get better at martial arts.
I'm like, dude, if he's doing it like like I, it's warnable, you
know? And so that's how I, I approach
it. So yeah.
And. That's why it that's and that is
why it magnifies how frustrating it is to see him get iced and
put on the shelf. Same thing with Pitbull, right?
The GOAT of Bellator sitting there going I can't get a
fucking fight. That's ridiculous.
That cat sacrificed so much for that company and now in the
final frames of his career, instead of getting these
glorious moments to go out on a high note or have some
competitive last couple matchups, he's getting nothing
right. You know, and that's I just
Leandro. He goes same situation.
Let's. Talk to one of the Saudi Arabian
sheiks to throw him some money or something, you know what I
mean? Like, yo, Saudi Princess, can
you send Bellator some money so they could pay these guys to
fight right now, I think. The thing is because.
What's the issue dude? They do fight, I think.
They already have that link up with the Middle East.
Obviously they do those shows in Riyadh and and the, I think the
big problem with the PFL right now is there is a issue of
overextending themselves. You've got PFL MENA, you've got
PFL Europe, you've got the Global League.
And then when you're trying to simultaneously run Bellator,
shit slips through the cracks. And unfortunately this year that
has been Bellator, they've had what, 3 cancelled events?
3 cancelled events? Come on.
So we're talking about dozens of athletes that have been in fight
camp, really slave in a way for these opportunities to advance
themselves. And then it just gets wiped off
the calendar and you don't see consequences.
And that's what frustrates me the most.
You get nothing from the organization in terms of
transparency, in terms of a accountability at times.
Look at that instance with Diane Silva.
Diane Silva was cutting weight for a Bellator London card, I
think goes into a coma. And then from what I understand,
and I could be wrong, I want to put that out there, could not
have all the facts right. But from what I understand, what
I saw, there was a bit of trying to control the narrative and
suppress that story from getting out.
And so when you have a fighter in a coma and your reaction
isn't taking fucking care of them to the best of their
ability, and PFL did retroactively brought one of her
teammates out, took care of the medical expenses, that was great
to see. I'd like to see that.
I should have seen that first. I should have seen that first.
I shouldn't have seen people going, man, they're suppressing
XY and Z. That's awful.
That's a terrible look if that's true, right?
And so if people are writing these articles and creating this
content about your organization, fucking with someone that's
currently in a coma, bad PR. And I think that's the whole
last couple months last year is bad PR.
You know, they just had their big night, the the richest night
in combat sports, millions and millions of dollars being given
out. Now a week later, nobody cares.
Everyone's moved on to the next. Thing yeah so so Bellator's got
its challenges and people hate on Dana White.
Oh, fighter pay. Listen, Dana's shows go on.
They like they got the guys got a well oiled machine.
Like if they say you're fighting, you're fighting these
other organizations can't even do they're giving out millions
of dollars and then they're canceling shows and you don't
know if you're going to be a millionaire or a homeless
person. Like imagine the life you're
you're starving, you're cutting weight, you're training every
day. Every day you're getting into
seven to 10 fist fights with the best dudes on the planet,
beating people up, getting your ass beat.
Fucking I got an injury this I got to fight in two weeks, but
my fucking finger don't bend. You're like, bro, everything, my
back, my knee. Oh, I think I tore my knee, but
I got to go fight anyway. Oh, I got a staph infection.
Should I tell the team or like, there's all this crazy shit
that's happening to fighters and then these other organizations
can't even keep their fights going.
And then people got the audacity to complain about Dana, dude,
Dana's, Dana's setting the example for everybody else.
Like, dude, whatever they're doing, model that.
And I think that's, that's The thing is the season format just
isn't working at this point. It was a great gimmick, I think
to get interest and differentiate.
I think it was, I think it was. I think there there's a way that
it can work. It needs to be modified
severely. I think Luke Thomas or somebody
said this, they were like, listen, they should just pick
one weight Class A year, do that tournament for that weight class
and have that be that. And then everything else on the
cards. All the other events are just
maybe traditional one versus 1 and normal MMA.
But you know, Bellator did Grand Prix to, I would say pretty
successful levels, you know, and they were exciting and, and fun
to watch and usually stayed together.
But the the problem is when your whole shtick revolves around
this season format. And there's not really a lot of
clarity on how these people are getting matched up for the
quarterfinals or those first matchups, right?
This kind of unknown. And then you're mixing things up
in the semis. Natanz Schultz beating Haush
Manfiel and then getting disqualified by being boring and
Shane Burgos getting pumped in despite not having enough points
to have been in that position in the 1st place.
But there goes the legitimacy, there goes the integrity, there
goes the season format. The most fair type of league
compromised their own intention with that right.
So it's just weird. I, I think that there's a lot of
great people at the PFL. They have so many smart
individuals. But my thing is again,
overextending PFL, men of PFL Europe global league, you have
to pick, sit and excel, crush it.
And you know, you say you want to be the Co leader in this
space. You don't want to be the number
2, then you got to concentrate and unfortunately this year it's
come at the expense of the Bell Tour fighters.
Yeah, and so so I've been backstage.
My ex-girlfriend used to fight for the PFL.
And so I've learned two things about the PFL 1.
I had a great experience. They were super organized.
You know that event went on, right?
So I don't know about these other events that aren't going
on. I just know that everything was
professional. And two, Kayla Harrison is buff
as shit. That's the thing I'll learn.
I think she's kind of sexy, but I like fit women, right?
Because. You know a.
Fire. Hydrant, you know?
Yeah. But like, I'm like, you know, I,
I start wondering, like, I think I could wear her out though, you
know? What I mean like you're saying?
Alright if I go under a year and she's.
A hit caughtcher. Yeah, Hey girl, you ever been
out to dinner with a man in a reindeer onesie?
You know what I mean? So yeah.
So those are the two things I learned about PFL.
She's. Great man.
Kayla is is such a phenomenal athlete.
She's. Lost a lot of weight though,
man, it's like a little less fire hydranty, you know what I
mean? I'm.
I'm I'm. I'm starting to lose.
Interest. I'm like girl, like do some
fucking deadlifts, get some squats in there or something,
you know what I mean? I like, I like bunk, I mean.
On the bunk There is no world in which Kayla Harrison doesn't
become the UFC bantamweight champion.
That's what they asked. There's no way she doesn't win.
She looks. So dominant.
Too dominant and Juliana Pena getting the title shot after
being 5043 by Amanda Nunez, taking what was it 18 months off
and then walking right back into that title shot with Raquel
Pennington. Not really doing fantastic in my
opinion. Was a competitive fight, but I
had Raquel and then getting on the microphone afterwards,
calling out Amanda, saying Amanda's ducking her.
Listen, there's good heels in this business.
There's people that know how to operate and maneuver on a
microphone. Thank you.
I appreciate that. And there's people that don't.
And I think Juliana Pena is, is is an example of someone who
tries very hard. And I love the effort and I love
the attempt, but but sometimes she misses the mark.
And when you have Kayla Harrison right there on the same card who
just put on a great display, who's the most deserving
contender, and you're calling out someone who retired a while
ago that 5043, do you most recently to me, that doesn't
make sense. To me, that's missing the mark.
And I don't know. So you would like to see her
call out Kayla? Oh, yeah, that would have made
sense. I think the fan base would have
gravitated around because they would have gone.
Thank you, Juliana. Thank you for calling out the
most deserving person, for calling out a badass who just
had a great performance saying give me that.
Give me the smoke instead of saying.
I want the retired person that beat me up and 5043 of me.
That's who I want because they're running for me.
And so let me ask you this. You would say that the Kayla
fight is a bigger pay-per-view draw than getting Amanda out of
retirement. That's not what I was saying at
all. Because, because if we're
looking at it from a financial aspect, if she could drag a
let's, let's say hypothetically speaking, she believes both of
these matchups are bad matchups for her, right?
Which one am I going to get paid and ride off into the sunset?
If you're going at it from a business sense, probably the
amount of Nunez one, but I think the likelihood of that occurring
is very slim, right. So then you play in this realm
of I get. So she's going to get Kayla
anyway, right? We might as well build it.
Exactly, you might as well not no sell the number one
contender, right and then defuse interest by virtue of your
actions. I get completely like the
business side of it. The financial side of it should
always be the priority. But if the business side of it
eclipse what is realistic and what's what's in reality, then
you just look dumb. And again, you've got this very
deserving contender who does have a lot of hype.
Kayla Harrison has a lot of hype, right, Kayla?
Harrison I mean, well deserved. You know this is a bad mother.
On gold medalist, multi time PFL champ, now the number one
contender at 135. Like.
Single mom. You know what I'm?
Saying do it, no. For real, though, she's doing
her thing, Doc. No, for real.
Like some of these dudes are like, hey man, I do this, that
and that. I'm like, there's people out
here raising kids. There was there's a.
Chick from China in the UFC that's like hey she make she
make a doctor too. Let's go.
Like what bro? You're just like a doctor.
Your side quest is like to go. Snap through she fighter like
I'm all aboard the she main train, baby.
Yeah, give me more. She makes she's insane.
She's amazing. But yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Those are my thoughts on that. Talking about picking fights for
career, for legacy, for money, what do you think about the
whole Jon Jones, Tom Asmol situation?
Is it looks like it's going to be put together now, right?
Jon Jones is the baddest man on the planet.
Listen, for real. My uncle's Hulk Hogan, OK?
And at one point they brought in Ultimate Warrior and my uncle
was like, dude, I get that Warrior's hot, but he's a flash
in the pan, an RIP Warrior, right?
But my uncle was right. The second that they put the
belt on Warrior, Warrior came and was asking for $1,000,000 in
appearance or something crazy, right?
And then he lost being hot, he lost his popularity and they put
the belt back on Hulk. So it's similar to this.
John Jones has beat up everybody that's ever been put in front of
them. And it's like we have a new up
and coming to Contender. He's like, dude, I beat fucking
twenty of those dudes. I beat legends.
I beat every flash in the pan that you brought up.
I beat guys that you were like, oh, that was a close fight.
And then that guy goes on and loses fights right after it.
It's like, dude, Jon Jones is the absolute GOAT.
I think he smokes Tom Aspinall, despite what anybody says.
I don't give a flying fuck, bro. It it's it's like, that's cool
that that Tom's got fast feet. You know what I mean?
He's got good footwork, but I just think that Jon Jones is a
complex puzzle. Who this last fight he finished
with a turning sidekick. He drilled that turning sidekick
3 hours a week for six months, you know what I mean?
Like he's dedicated, so. He could do all the blow he
wants. He could go out and have a
couple of drinks or whiskey or whatever he likes, proper 12 or
a howler head, whatever he prefers.
He could do whatever he wants. But if he's in there and he's
drilling the turning sidekick, he's an athletic talent that's
able to go hit that under the lights.
And the biggest the president's right here and he's he's doing
moves that he just practiced in the gym.
And then he hit the president of this dancing perfect timing with
the point, and then the thumbs up with it.
Then put the belt on. Incredible.
That night could not have gone better for Jon Jones, right?
For could not have gone better for, for America, for the United
States. We need a job.
RFKS you're in the background standard.
There perfect. RFKS out there with a six pack
about to do some calisthenics. He's getting hyped up.
He's a worm in his. Brain doing, you know.
I'm getting I'm. Getting.
I'm getting no, I think I see both sides of it so.
I'm like, oh, he's so, he's so composed and so professional.
And then he hits. Back and like, yeah, so John,
what? John Jones is in many ways the
greatest of all time, right? I think that is the consensus
opinion and there's a few ways of looking at it and filtering
it. And you might have someone has
your top spot if you care about this, that or the other.
But like what he's done in the sport, like you said, it's
ridiculous taking out all these top guys for so many years.
My thing was, you know, the serial gone fight, we saw the
blueprint with Francis and Gano. So John, great, excellent win #1
contender. I loved it.
I want to see more of him at 265, right?
And then the pectoral injury happened and I think that's
that's where things get split for me because right, he would
have faced steep a, gotten steep a out of the way.
And then I'm sure that the Tom Aspen matchup would have had a
lot more justification. But then the tear happens.
But they were. Also talking about Sergey back,
you know what I mean? And then it's like, oh, that was
the guy that was going to get Jon Jones.
And now that's like, who even thought that?
It's like, dude, everybody was saying that, right?
And it's. It's what happens.
It's always what happens, I think.
I think for. I think Tom, I mean I think Jon
Jones can shoot in on Tom Aspinall and if he gets stuffed,
I believe John Jones is so good and so dedicated he can pull
guard and submit Tom Aspinall from his back.
He threw a what? Was that rampage he threw up a
flying triangle on? Yeah, bro, he dude, come on.
I don't know. I don't see John Jones beating
Tom Aspinall. No, bro.
I don't and that's and and we can differ on that we're.
We're gonna bet 10 body shots on that.
You know what I mean? How is it not the kind of time
we're I'm talking about my fists punching each other.
We. Can do that?
We can. Bet 10 body.
Shots not any man on man drinking out each other's belly.
Buttons or whatever. We.
Whatever. Whatever you and just do like.
Ten shots to kill off you and. This person loses.
John Jones loses and I'm gonna drink 10 shots out your belly
button, bro. You know what I mean?
I think John, like what do you? Think that fight looks like.
So John put on a master class against Stipe.
He was in control the entire time.
Driver's seat, every single round, every single exchange
even. I mean, Stipe had a little bit
of success, but man, John looked tremendous in there.
The thing is, it's either going to be like how every Tom
Haspinal fights been where it's a first round demolition and
he's just too quick, he is too precise, does what he wants and
that's game over. Or we see John, which I think
this is how it could happen, extend him outside the first
round and then it becomes a bit of a dogfight.
And then this is where I think the age might affect Jon Jones a
little bit. Father Time is Father time and
Jon Jones is 38 by the time this fight happens.
If it does, he'll probably be 39, I have to assume.
And, and I don't know, there was a lot of slow movement against
Stipe. I didn't see a lot of pop.
Tom's got pop. Tom's a quick cat.
And so I think that there's a world in which if you put prime
John versus prime Tom, it's prime John Jones.
But I think this version of John Jones struggles with Tom.
And if I. What if Stipe is really good and
he just looked like that? Because John is really, really,
really good. So people like, oh, Stipe looks
slow. It's like it's hard to look good
against John. Right.
And John's training with Gordon Ryan, bro, like, and he's
training with Gabel Stevenson, right?
Doug, Doug he, he's going to go in there and he's going to maul
this dude. And he's going.
To go to the after party, he's going to do whatever he wants,
bro. And listen, he's going to be the
the, the fight of the night and the life of the party straight
up. And there's nothing anybody I
know we could want it. With the the the world, the
heavyweight. World champ should be a dude.
Listen, I train better when I'm covered in glitter after coming
out to strip club, OK? Some of us are a little bit.
Wild, right? And I think John's got a little
bit of that in him. You get, you let him get a
little wild and he and he can start feeling himself and he's
like, I'm a bad motherfucker. And then he goes in there and
fucks that dude up. Bro I.
Think it just depends on how you look at the sport right?
If you want to call it a sport, you have the interim champ.
And you're allowed to say that because you fought.
If you had not fought, I would not even engage in this.
Conversation. With you, you would have
already. Attacked.
The craziest thing, even just watching that fight happen, or
even seen the fight getting booked, was Tom Aspinol defended
an interim championship. I've never seen that done
before. Tom's got what, six wins over
the top 10, 10, five wins over the top 10.
So he is, in my opinion, the guy who has done more at heavyweight
than Jon Jones. Jon is gonna.
Know if you can deny that, Cheeks.
I'd love to see it. I listen.
I'd love to see the fight. Just manifest the fact that
you've got the interim champ sitting front row.
I want to see him fight Pereira. Bro, you're gonna.
Want to see him to be honest. Come on bro, let's go.
I'm not gonna play that game. Gee, I want some.
I want all. That Brazilian witchcraft.
And shit. Do you?
Yes. That would be that, not be one
of the greatest. I want it to happen at
heavyweight. That way there's the chance of
the fucking 3 peat, the hat trick, the triple champ, the
thing that Henry Cejudo was talking about.
And then he realized that maybe not the path for him, right?
Yeah, granted, he's a gold medalist and he's a two time
champion, but he was what was he going to go four seed?
But he's going to have three belts in UFC, right?
He was going to fight up and go up and fight Volk.
But listen, Alex has a chance to do that.
There's a. World.
As. Slim as it may be and as much as
our hearts may want it to happen, that he lands a fucking
hook and just puts his lights out, right?
So that's the actual possibility that he might be a three
division world champion. And to me that's much more
entertaining because he is a two time champ.
He does have a legacy. He was a world champion in
kickboxing and now he's going to fight Jon Jones, the baddest
motherfucker ever to put on 4 oz gloves.
But you know what I'm saying? Bro.
And and then. And then you're telling me.
Oh well. We got a white dude with quick.
Feet, you know I'm saying. And I'm like you're.
Racist. Bro you only want it because
he's white. You're white.
Hold on. I think, I think again, this is
where it I think. I said the quiet part out loud.
OK, my bad, my bad. I think this is where the UFC.
So you're saying you don't want a person of color, a Brazilian,
to fight another person of color in Jon Jones, is what you're
saying here? That's a white man.
Is not at all. What if he's?
Just his privilege when? You say?
Your trouble on bro, We're good. I would love to see every person
of color succeed, yeah. Give me these two stuff jabs all
day. I'm.
Here's The thing is, this is where the UFC creates problems
for itself because when you're putting on it interim title
fight between Sergey Pavlovich and Tom Aspinall, that thing
creates the precedent that the winner of such matchup will
immediately go face the champ when he's healthy, ready to come
back to action. That's just how interim
championships are defined, right?
So the UFC, they honestly, when you look back at this
retroactively, they shouldn't have put the interim belt on the
line for that fight. They should have just said, hey,
we've got an excellent showcase of top five heavyweight talent
that we're going to add instead of Steep A and John for this
car. That's what they should have
done. Because we got Ben telling Dana
what he should have. You know what?
I'm saying this is just one man's opinion.
This is just one man's opinion, but like the fact.
That I'm like fucking with you, but I'm kind of like, not, you
know what I mean? Like.
I mean, but. So I don't I I agree with you.
Actually, but. But then I go Dane is a.
Fucking billionaire, you're flying.
Wrong, but you can't talk about patchy mix not getting
opportunities and then shit on Tom aspinol for being the
defending interim champs sitting.
Why the fuck am I not trying to unify?
You can't big up patchy and then shit on Tom.
That's not. How shit point though.
Alex has multiple belts, not interim titles, but to the point
where Dana he he's got a case as well.
The the amount of draw that's come out of this whole Dana and
or I'm sorry, John and Asheville situation is is blowing up the
sport. I feel like it's on another
level the. The the oil Sheik, the Saudi
Prince dude said he's going to send Dana White to the moon.
He's going to give him so much money because he wants John
Jones versus Francis. Yeah, I.
Don't know if you heard that yet that happened.
Yesterday was it? Yes, he said.
Physically. Give him cash in a briefcase
that he. Can then go.
Buy a rocket ship to the moon, that's how much money.
He did, Turkey also put right he's going to give Mike Tyson
$700 million to rematch Jake Paul.
So I'm like. Do you think he's bluffing
though? I don't think he's bluffing.
I I know he has that. He's.
Smoking that good? She's out there if you.
Can do anything he wants. I I'd like to see that fight
now. I I want to.
Just not do that. That's wrong, but anyway, right?
But when you think about it and Ganu versus Jones, you've got
Francis and Ganu, who is the lineal UFC heavyweight champion.
You didn't. You got to beat the man to be
the man. Nobody beat Francis and Ganu
inside MMA. He left with the belt.
So for me, I there's such intrigue.
So in a way. Not more than that.
No, no, no. In a way, John and Aspinall are
both interim champs because Francis bounced with the fucking
belt. He dropped his nuts on the
table, he said. Here's your belt back and I'm
going to go over here and get a paycheck.
That's and Gano, the lineal champ, John, the UFC heavyweight
champ, Aspinall, interim heavyweight champ.
That's the discussion here, Alex, Alex Padilla, light
heavyweight champ, former middle weight champ.
So you do have so many storylines here.
The problem is, again, activity, right?
Tom Aspinall is a very active guy.
Jon Jones, I think, again, with the age with that injury, he
hasn't fought as actively as possible.
There might be a world in which we get all of this.
King David, we could get all of this.
Well, the only way it happens really is if if John beat.
If John beats Tom, Yep, he'll get the Alex fight.
Yep. I think he beats Alex.
Yeah, and, and then the oil sheet comes in and it's like,
dude, Dana, my brother, you know what I mean?
And then he's like, I'm a I'm a back the Brinks truck up.
I want to see it from my own personal enjoyment.
And then and then he's just he. That guy hits what he wants.
But but if? That guy, if that.
Guy wants a steak, he gets a steak.
Risk the like the reputability of the brand of the UFC, though,
by the chance of their champion losing to another heavyweight
champion that's not with his organization.
But when you look at the, oh, that's.
Easy. You.
Just you. Just start talking about how old
Jon Jones is. It's going to be a miracle.
Jon Jones is 40 years old to. Beat him 40. 40 years old, Jon
Jones is making history. 40 years old, 40, just keep
bringing up 40 years old. And in the event that he does
lose, then he just oh, he was 40 bro, Come on.
You know what I mean? We've been saying that in all
the promos. And he's already the greatest of
all time in many people's ideas, right?
So whatever Jon Jones does next, it's icing on top.
It's extracurricular. So I think, let's, let's paint
this picture. Jon Jones defends against Tom
Aspinall, beats him, right, dominates, and we go, oh shit,
that's a bad motherfucker. Alex Padilla steps up to the
plate, gets submitted. Oh my God, Jon Jones doing it
again, adding to the legacy final fight of Jon Jones's
career. Francis and Gano do it in real,
do it wherever Turkey wants, and that's it.
That's the swan song. Let's.
Reverse the order. John Jones goes in there two
weeks. Notice double legs, Alex.
Alex tries to. Wrestle No No.
Alex tries to wrestle up, gets put in a guillotine, Gordon Ryan
says lower your shoulder, his shoulder, right?
Your wrist goes higher, right? He's got technical details,
Gordon. Gordon I like the Gordons.
Here, Gordon no. Gordon Ryan has.
Technical details bro, he's the best.
Grappler on the planet, and he's in the best athlete we've ever
seen and the best fighter on the planet's quarter.
So he's going to tell him, sneak your shoulder lower, bring your
head across the center line, right?
And then he's going to wrap that, wrap that palm to palm,
guillotine up, choke Alex out and then in another two weeks,
he didn't take any damage. He goes and fights Tom Aspinall
we're. Talking same month, we're
talking one calendar month. One month, one year, whatever.
Doesn't matter. It's.
Possible. Yeah.
So. So there's a there's a scenario
where he goes in that fight, chokes him out, gets the belt,
does the Trump dance and comes out unscathed and then goes on
and fights Tom anyway, or just bounces out and collects a bag
because Dana's like, yo, man, send me that Saudi money, man.
You know, Tom Aspinall has a fight in the the meantime, he
gets beat up, people go, oh, going to beat Jon Jones anyways,
right? And then I don't know.
And then and then we get the fucking Saudi fight on Mars or
whatever, you know what I'm saying?
The moon, They're going to do that fight on the moon, bro.
That's going to build a base Turkey.
'S building a base. Yeah, what do you think's more
likely? Jon Jones fights Tom Aspinall or
Jon Jones fights Francis and Ganu.
I think it's more likely he fights Aspinall because I think
the issue with doing it in Ghana fight is you'd have to deal with
PFL and you need that cross collaboration.
And I think Dana's been quite vocal that he's not interested
in doing anything with the PFL. So it would almost have to be at
a, a scenario in which either John leaves the UFC and goes to
PFL or Francis leaves PFL and goes back to the UFC and they do
a an event there. I think that's the only world in
which it could happen because I don't see them Co promoting and
working together right for because like you mentioned
earlier for Dana, there's not much to gain by doing a Co
promotion with PFLPFL is the one that stands to gain everything
from putting Ingano up against Jones, so.
I disagree. I know a lot of rich people and
they got rich because they don't like being told no and money can
move mountains and this dude is the richest dude.
He's so rich that they don't even talk about how rich he is
because he's got like trillions of dollars.
If this guy wants that fight to happen, that fight's going to
happen and Dane is going to be happy about it because Dane is a
businessman. So if they make the right offer,
let's say they go, hey PFL, we're going to give you 100 mil,
we're going to get Francis out of there or whatever.
I'm just making a number. They get Francis out of there.
Francis re signs with the UFC, The Sheik pays him instead of
UFC having to come out of pocket.
Problem solved. If that guy wants the fight to
happen, the fight's happening now.
If it happens on the moon, that's a little bit of a bigger
investment, but that's. What?
I'm hoping for keep going galactic and keep going
galactic. It's going to go down.
On. The moon.
Elon Musk has rockets. They can do that.
We can do. We can do it on a.
Rocket we do it on the rocket to the moon wasn't the.
UFC too. He was looking at memes and.
Shit, right? You know what I mean?
He's running, he's running SpaceX from his phone.
Like, oh shit, that's Jon Jones. Hey, let me, let me send this
rocket up real quick. And you know, Dan, I got you a
couple 100 million for that thing and A and A and a rocket
ship. Let's go.
But even the, I mean, Turkey makes him look broke, basically,
right? When you think about the money
that he's got compared to Elon, especially liquid cash, Yeah.
Right and. So I thought about that like,
you know, people are like, oh, dude, I need to work hard and
get more money, right? And I'm like, what if you just
woke up and you were like a Saudi Prince, right?
You would like, So there's not a correlation.
You know what I mean? So like the.
Genetic lottery. I know we're getting way off.
Topic, right, But like there's like these limiting beliefs we
have in our heads that like things are attached to other
things and it's like those those are correlation.
They're not causation, you know what I mean?
So there's some people on this planet that like are richer than
anybody else has ever been in human history and they don't
like have to quote UN quote work, let alone hard.
I don't know, I'm just trying to expand your.
Minds, guys, you know what I'm saying?
Trying to get that alpha. Brand.
Yeah, yeah, man, I'm on the. Genetic lighters.
It's such an issue now because I'm.
Also on 400 milligrams of caffeine. 200 milligrams.
Yeah, I'm on cat right now. I'm on the Big K dog.
Yo, let's go to Access. Club 20 minutes ago.
No, bro, Yeah, no. I'm I'm.
I'm. I'm.
High as fuck. On caffeine right now and L
theanine and lions manes mushrooms so maybe what I'm
talking about isn't making a whole lot of sense.
Let's go bro. Last thing before we get out of
here, the whole Conor McGregor situation, what do you guys make
of? It well, what I make of Bo
Nickel is that a lot of people are hating on Bo Nickel.
Meanwhile, he just smoked a dude that has beaten like world
champions that that guy's finished world champions and
bone. The object of the fight is to
hit and not get hit. So that's actually martial arts
and it can upset whoever. And people can want to see him
bang. People can say I want him to
take him down and play in his guard and give him a chance.
It's like, no, dude, martial arts is like eliminating the
chance of the other dude. And he did that.
Now we can talk about Conor McGregor.
Well, what I have to add to that is when you think about Jamal
Hill, I think Jamal is doing such a interesting job promoting
himself to the point where it's turning me around.
I was for a very long time, and you know this, I was a little
bit critical of 1 Jamal Hill because I was like, why were you
saying the things you do? Why are you acting the way that
you are? But but now I see the vision, I
see the hilarity in what he does.
Jamal today pulled up on Alex Padilla at the apex and was just
yapping. Alex throws gloves at him was
like, listen, you want to spar? We can spar and he'll he'll
didn't do anything. He was just yapping and then
walked away. Alex doesn't speak English.
You know, it's in. It's so funny to me that Jamal
just walks up, talks shit to a guy that can't speak English.
The guy's like, hey, we can spar.
And he's like, no, I'm here to talk and.
And and I'll see you later. If.
You want to fight me? They need to cut a check.
But that's exactly what he said. He's like for no money.
No. And I'm like, it's, he is such
an anomaly. And like I I've I've crossed the
path of being annoyed from him to just being in awe of Jamal.
Is he a true job? What is it?
I don't know, I true that he's. Trying to get a fight and a
paycheck bro. That's what he's.
Doing a good job. He's doing a good.
Same. Conversation.
I, I have been one of his most critical people, but I
truthfully, at this point in time, I have to say Jamal, it is
entertaining every day. Whenever he opens, it's almost
like Bryce Mitchell. Anytime they open their mouths,
I know I'm going to be entertained.
And honestly, I can be content with that, you know?
Well, Bryce Mitchell was just like UFC Theo Von, right?
100% yeah. Drilled his balls off and then
said he doesn't believe in seatbelts this week.
What does that even mean? You know, like.
We don't. Birds are fake bro, you know
what I'm saying? Birds are fake.
No, but so, OK, so Connor, right.
So there there's a case against Connor.
They're alleging a lot of really bad stuff.
And then there are people on the Internet who are called
conspiracy theorists that say Connor started speaking out
against illegal aliens coming to Ireland.
He spoke out and said he was going to run for president to
stop the global military industrial complex from
promoting their one world government agenda.
And all of a sudden he's getting these charges right.
So those those are the two things that are happening with
Connor. As far as him fighting.
I think Connor is one of the most talented people on the
planet. And I think that six weeks
training camp, he comes back in there and cuts through Michael
Chandler like Buttermate. Was that your Irish accent?
Yeah, bro. Like Buttar Buttar.
I don't know. It's it's.
I'm going to break your nose mate.
That was better. We're getting there, We're
getting there. I do.
I do think if he had six weeks, I don't know, because you think
about the last couple years for him and his focus outside of the
ring, outside of training, like I have to imagine that that's
going to impact his ability in ring when they fight.
But I do think it's a great match up for him.
I think if you're going to fight anybody, it's got to be Mike
Chandler. That's that's probably the best
person in the top 15 that Connor can beat as it pertains to
everything that's going on with him outside the cage.
It's crazy. It's tough to see.
You know well people. Well, people.
Love Michael Chandler because Michael Chandler is willing to
make poor choices you don't like.
He'll stand and trade with Connor and be like, dude, one of
us is going to go, you know what I mean?
And that's what people come to see.
And and that type of thought process plays right into
Connor's like and if Connor can come in there, I'm talking like
karate Connor. I'm talking Edo portal Connor,
you know what I mean? Where he's doing touch butt in
the park and fucking smoking dudes like with one hitter
quitters. Pre 2017.
That was like 10 years ago, but like it was not recent
unfortunately. He needs six weeks to get his
shit back together. That's it, right?
You could you listen, we all have friends who've gone on
benders and then got their shit back together, but.
A7 year. Bender here buddy.
That's hard to walk back. In a my set.
Records. I own all the numbers.
A. Seven-year Bender and I come.
Straight back into the main event mate.
That's what he's doing. I don't know, I think I'd have
to see something he's. Still going to break pay per
views. He's still going to break
Chandler's nose. He's still going to break every
international gate record ever set.
And he's still the Notorious Connor McGregor.
Well. We know he's not a Mike Chandler
fan. No, no, I do I.
Love Mike Chandler. But I'm just saying
stylistically like, OK, then who better?
Than Connor. No.
Who? Better for?
Yeah. For Connor.
For. Connor no one's better.
I think that that's the perfect match up so.
So we agree. Yeah, OK 'cause you were just
like, listen, we don't need to spar again.
My God, I'm about to have another viral.
Clip up in this motherfucker. I think Max Holloway would be
fun. Max.
Would be a very fun one for Connor, run that back, see if
Max can get some vengeance. But I, I kind of have the, the
thought process of does this make Connor's return bigger than
maybe before, right? The whole civilly liable of rape
thing, 'cause if you look at Mike Tyson way back in the day,
he was that was criminal conviction, right?
I thought that was civil. Court, that was civil as well.
No, Mike Tyson went to prison. Yeah, I was.
I'm thinking about the. Yeah, he was in prison, so he
was. Criminally convicted of rape and
when he came out it was I mean everybody was like, Oh my God,
what version of Mike Tyson are we going to see?
So does this and he. Peter Mcneely.
Yeah, six months. He came out time for some time
for some action, time time for some time for some action.
I still remember that. Walk out.
You know what? I mean, and he came out.
Not that old buddy. I was like.
I am. I am bro, let's.
And I'm still fucking running. Let's go.
It's. Just it's just crazy to see
somebody that like at one point in time again, was the
definition of the sport that helps scale MMA to a more
mainstream audience, put it on his shoulders in a certain
regard and and brought it up right to then ten years later
being in a situation where you found civilly liable of rape.
The only way to really approach that is just it's crazy and it's
just crazy. So you're you're a a reasonable
person. I'm not a conspiracy.
There is. So, so how, how much do you
believe that him speaking out against the One World government
has to do with those charges? Or.
Honestly, that is a sandbags of conversation that I just can't
offer an opinion on. Our, Our goal, our goal.
Was to get. Cancelled here bro.
I can't offer a. We have one goal.
You know that? Who knows?
Who knows is the big question. Mark, you are a conspiracy
theory. So it's.
Possible. No.
I'm not, no, I'm not entertaining it.
So, so you're saying that you don't publicly support Conor
McGregor is what you're saying all?
Right, put me on the spot, I'll. Just fuck with you.
Don't answer that. Don't answer that.
I'm just, I'm just trolling. Kind of crazy to see how the
world has reacted to it though, right?
And how they've just taken them off of everything, How he's
every. Brand proper 12 saying he's no.
One would be KFC. No.
I, I don't know. I haven't, I haven't seen BKFC
publicly say anything about it. I'm not sure if they have or
haven't. That's crazy you got coached mid
fight by Connor. That's that's a fucking life
moment. Bro it has aged so terribly.
It was like. Him raising our arms, I'm like
that has aged just so boring within a month.
I can't post this photo ever. I I walked out to R Kelly one
time and then he got to no no no before.
When he was before. What?
He was what? He was still dope, right?
It was like, oh shit, R Kelly. Well, I'm dog.
I've been fighting for a long time, right?
And so I walked out to R Kelly, right?
It was after the party. It's the after party and after
the nanny and the nan and that, right.
And so I'm like pointing at girls in the audience was my
girlfriend at the time, but still I would fly.
I was like. Pointing at.
Her and she's like looking at me and I'm like dude, this is dope.
And then he started pissing on women and under and I'm like.
What is going on? What concert?
Oh. No, no, no, no, straight on the.
Stage. I didn't watch this right.
R Kelly did that too, right? He's in jail.
We can make up stories about him.
Because not somebody didn't watch about R Kelly.
I'm just playing that this. Is an R Kelly liar space?
Allegedly Allegedly he was urinating on people at his
concerts or something. But anyway.
So do. You have your passports.
A lot. A lot.
Of Do you have your shots? A lot of these.
People, you can't, even if they're in Hollywood, you can't
even deal with them because it's going to age poorly.
Like, I mean, you know. Think, think about Jake
Gyllenhaal. He's like, I did a movie with
that guy. Fucking Roadhouse with that guy.
Aren't they? Weren't they filming Roadhouse
too? I think I think they were
filming the single. Man, yeah, I think they're in
the middle of filming the second one.
Jake's rolling up the set. He's like, hey guys, where's
Connor? Don't ask.
Don't even ask. He's under the prison.
I don't know. We'll see.
I think I think the best, the best answer is we'll see on
everything. I I hope all listen.
I want truth if that if that person was victimized.
Then. I support, you know, people
being prosecuted. I hope it's not true though, You
know what I mean? Like I just, I, I hope it's not
true. I don't want to see, I don't
like hearing bad things happening.
I don't like hearing about people getting the R word.
I think that's all. R Word.
Yeah, I don't if we say we'll get cancelled or their bleep it
or something, I don't it rhymes with the color of his jacket
grapes. He's just.
Red, yeah. Genuinely thought you were
retarded. That is, that's another one of
them. Yeah.
And so, you know, any time that that happens, that's that's
tragic and unfortunate and terrible, but I really hope it's
not true, man. I hope that that girl didn't get
that. I hope she's just chasing a bag.
I hope Connor makes a comeback. You know what I mean?
Like, I have hope in people. And you know, I don't know shit
about the case, so I'm just speculating.
I might go read the case and be like, damn, I take back
everything I said, right? Fuck that dude.
But as of right now, I don't know anything about it.
And I'm just having opinions, uneducated opinions about
subject matters I don't know anything about.
Well, like we said, like a couple weeks ago, a criminally
convicted rapist participated in the most watched fight of all
time exactly on Netflix, all kinds of different sponsors on
it. Mike Tyson was there, right?
So. That's wild, I think.
Seems. Like the whole world.
Accepted it, it's not going to prevent I think in his future, I
don't think that it will prevent much again because historically
Kobe as well had that situation right where he went through that
same thing and and I think that was.
You know how he met his wife? No.
He was already an NBA All Star. He was getting into a phase
where he wanted to be a rapper, so he brought some girls on set.
Those girls ended up being high school girls.
One of those girls was Vanessa. Start dating her.
His parents didn't approve of it.
And then his parents moved away from him for, like, a couple of
decades until he had kids. Yeah.
It's just crazy, I think, I think especially with the the
rights deal coming up in this. Paul Walker's girlfriend was 16
when he was. Like 30?
Fuck this, I'm moving to Thailand and marrying a hooker.
Fuck. All you.
People, you're doing. It all my.
You're ruining all my idols we're.
Going back to Phuket, we're going back.
To Phuket, that's the only take away Let's.
Go. Stew.
Oh. My God, yeah, Big stew's going
to come with us. Anyway, David, where can
everybody find you on socials where you're going to be I?
Don't know man fucking I get I get my accounts deleted
frequently. Right now it's King David MMA.
There's a lot of pro America comments and, you know,
patriotism on there, and I guess that's frowned upon these days.
So yeah, shout out to me, myself, King David, the country,
USA, Donald Trump. Dana White, let's go.
Let's go and the man and the bane, Davis, you can.
Also find me at the Peppermint Hippo Monday through Friday
staying up all night getting covered in glitter by strippers
before I go to pro practice. Shout out to the peppermint
hippo. That's not where you're going
to. Find me, I'm dragging you.
Wake up with your girlfriend and come to the strip club with me
right now. I can.
I gotta go put a ring on her, man, oh man.
Well then. We're doing a bachelor party at
the Peppermint Hip Hop. I'm.
Going to introduce. You to Cashley.
She's a she's a nice. Girl, I don't want to meet Cash.
You do. You just don't know it.
Sorry. Sorry to Ben's girlfriend.
You're lovely and he's actually a choir boy.
I've been the Bain Davis on our platforms, man.
We got APFC coming up this Sunday, so I'm sure when this is
going to come out, but if you are wanting more combat sports
after Alexandra Pantosa and Kaya Sakura, make sure you tune in to
the final APFC event of the year.
Outside of that on the Zone X series will be rocking and
rolling. January 18th, Darren Till versus
Tommy Fury. That'll be a fun.
One with me, I didn't know that was happening bro I'm excited
for that that's. Going to be huge cards where is
that taking place and you're. Commentating that, Commentating
it. Hey, listen, bro.
Hey. Man I need the VIP.
You are a huge globe, though, Ben.
Congratulations. It's been amazing to watch the
growth. I mean, we've known each other
for maybe a couple of years now. Yeah.
It's been awesome to see everything blow.
And one thing I really admire about Ben, he shows up, bro,
he's on a plane, he's on another plane, he's on a layover.
He's no sleep in the airport. Listen, last night, tough
enough, he pulled up, right? You know what I mean?
He stayed after. He's going to dinners, he's not
sleeping. He's like, I don't know, on
water and energy drains that just travel in the world and
making it happen. So anybody that says anything to
me about Ben Davis, I'm like, dude, that guy hustles.
So my guy. One of the hardest working guys
in the biz. Let's go.
Hey, man. I appreciate you guys so much,
both for coming down, being a part of episode 100 for Stone
Friendship. Triple DJ.
Go smash 100, tie husters and beat up 100.
Good Lady Boys and Fight Circus episode 100.
Let's go. Shout out to you, Big Stew.
We're out. See you guys next time.
Let's go. Let's go.
Big Stew of getting the shouts. We're still.
Friends. We're still friends.
We're still friends.