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podcast Big Body Cisco. How you doing, Joey?
And the new host of Versus US podcast.
Nice. 15 year and counting UFC veteran Brad Tavares.
Punching your feet, He. Doesn't watch?
I'll send you the link. So Super Bowl 59 halftime show,
right? That's the hot topic of the
world right now. But we gotta let them know why
we had this emergency podcast. Let them know it's a big body
because. So we was on social media and
everyone was talking about it had their, you know, opinions,
which social media is about. And then I had seen Justin had
PO. It was wack.
It was trash, trash. So I didn't mind Everybody else
talking shit about it is when you see what, like your boys
like. Then I was like, oh, I said
watch. Then Raleigh chimed in and was
like, yeah, she was like, hold up.
Emergency meeting emergency. What I said.
Trash. Yeah, same thing.
It's. Trash.
No, I just put a trash emoji. Yeah, he put the trash can.
Yeah. And then when Brad had chimed in
too, I said, OK, Brad has his. They they didn't comment on my
shit. Yeah, honestly.
I was kind of hesitating too. 'Cause I went on Brad.
No, no, I was running. To Brad and then Brad going no.
Not even not bro, 'cause I was like, I was like, dude,
honestly, that shit took me by surprise.
And This is why 'cause I I'm not a big Kendrick Lamar fan.
I like Kendrick. I think he's a great lyricist,
probably one of the best right now.
But as far as song goes, speaking about the the current
beef, I rather listen to Drake to be.
Honest, don't get me wrong, I'm a Drake fan, I'm a music fan and
like I'm a Kendrick fan. I'm a Drake fan.
I think where it fell for me, I started seeing all the posts
about how wacky was worst ever like come on, we got to know
that the halftime show is who's the most popular at the time,
right? And they said Jay-Z has some
kind of say in it, but not like us.
Yeah. And then we were like the beef
song that just happened to be the only reason he was even, you
know, thought about being the halftime show because that song
already kind of took of it's a whole little, you know, moniker
of its own. So, yeah, it was a diss song,
but that kind of got him the opportunity to do that.
What I wanted to know was, why is everyone putting it as the
worst ever? Because we got to look what the
Super Bowl halftime shows are, right?
They just started doing what Michael Jackson made it a big
thing and everything from there. And that's like, what, 93,
right? Oh yeah.
Right. Because if people don't know the
history behind that, In Living Color started to do stuff during
halftime. That was the show back in the
day with Dwaynes and they were doing something during Super
Bowl halftime because back then it was just marching bands.
And stuff like Grambling State, yeah, the Super Bowl show fight,
so. Everybody went to In Living
Color at halftime. The NFL was like, OK, we're
missing out on an opportunity. And that's how these big,
extravagant halftime shows came about.
Michael Jackson came up and then you have all these big halftime
shows. So I see where everyone can say
it has to be like the pinnacle of entertainment, right?
But I think what my gripe was was that Kendrick as an artist
and as a creative that we all are, I think it was to see him
take this opportunity because mind you, people don't get paid
to do these halftime shows. They get paid off the exposure
the. Weekend I thought they were
giving like 2 mil. As a budget, they're giving a a
productive budget. But Kendrick Lamar made about
450 bucks for the halftime show. Because you spent the budget.
Because you spent the budget on production.
Yeah, regardless. Yeah, yeah.
But you got to see what the being on that halftime show,
what it got him. He got a million followers after
that he got now he got he's like the hottest record, like he's
selling. Like that's work.
So what I wanted to say, Justin, let's sit down and say why was
it trash? And we'll tell you everyone has
their aspect of it. Yeah.
The performance itself, first. The song selection, horrible.
The mixing of the audio. Yeah, a DJ yourself, you got to
say it was horrible to start off.
It was. So my take on it as far as like
looking at the music wise was could he have used other of his
hits? Yes, but he took the opportunity
where GNX with the, you know, the Grand National everything.
That's what his album is now. So as an artist, my thing is GNX
right now, I just released it. I need more people to be more
aware about that. So he ran with that aspect to
kind of say had the Grand National on the stage, did all
the songs from it TV off, not like you know, so that aspect I
can see where the IT mixed it went through, but we have to
talk about like we were talking, you didn't even know it was
Serena Williams when she was on cripple or whatever.
But the geniusness of this beef, like don't get us wrong, we're
not Drake haters. I'm not Drake hater, but to have
Serena there, to have Scissor there and the connection between
them being Drake's ex genius on my part, on my opinion.
Because when you're funk funking with somebody, where do you hit
them at? They're ex's, right?
I didn't even know they were on there because I stopped watching
it. Yeah.
Tell us why you stopped watching it though.
But if you if you take previous Super Bowls, Usher.
Yes. Bruno Mars.
Bruno Mars Rihanna Bruno Mars
Rihanna Bruno Mars Brilliant dress, no dog $0.50 Rihanna.
But it's it's extravagant. Sit ups come.
On no my it's. My traffic is Bruno Mars, LA No.
So Bruno Mars weekend, the LA Hell no.
He's like performing, bro. Performing performers.
That was the worst. Not even that time.
So that was the worst thing I've ever seen.
I walked out of that one. I walked out of I feel.
Like he's more of a performer. How you guys feel about the
weekend, how you guys know how you guys feel about Kendrick 1
is how I feel about the weekend, but probably more.
Yeah, I'll put it this way. I didn't even watch the Super
Bowl. You guys already know I can't
fucking stand the cheese. I absolutely we could come in
the green spot them then hate Raiders and Niners.
We were just not hating. Yeah, we.
Just want to bro, everybody wants to watch the cheese lose,
right? No, I don't even watch.
I was like, I never, I never even watch.
And then the Zoe was like, oh, who is when they announced it in
September, Kendrick, I was like, I'm not like, like I said, like
I told you, I'm a big Kendrick fan.
I was like, whatever. But then Zoe filled me in and
she was like, Oh yeah. But apparently Drake has this
lawsuit on him and if he performs.
The storyline if he, if he. Performs a song.
So then I was like, OK, let's see if he's fucking about it.
Now I want to see it. They grabbed your attention.
It did, yeah. So you just like beefs, though
You're No, you're. Just like beefs.
He's a fighter. Yeah, talk.
Shit, let's go I. Grew up on fucking Tupac and
Biggie. Yeah, come on.
And then these two fuckers ended up dead.
Yeah. Who did it?
Who knows? I don't know.
We. That's a story for another day.
But I'm glad Brad said that the Tupac and Biggie thing, because
another aspect of this thing was as a California kid, as a West
Coast kid, when the beef was going on with East Coast, West
Coast, I was raised on West Coast hip hop with the Tupac's,
NWA's Easy ES Ice Cube. So as a California kid, see
somebody on that stage. It started with Snoop and Dre
when they did the one, and it so happens they did it at Sofi
Stadium. So they was at home.
This one, you got Kendrick in New Orleans.
So you're past the Midwest, you're almost down South, you
have the East Coast. So they're not going to kind of
like relate with the West Coast mentality of West Coast hip hop.
So when you see Kendrick doing his thing and has his you're as
a West Coast kid, you're like, this is sick.
That's how I took. It So what you're saying is it's
nostalgic but it sucked? It didn't.
Snow but it didn't bro. It like it tapped into your
childhood. We get it.
Reminds you of when he was a happy little boy.
But yeah. It sucked.
No way. To me it didn't.
Suck, it was trash. Like looked at it to me.
Why? Was it trash?
Though like so you see, you can only run back and forth so, so
much and rap like cool, if he was at Dre's, I'll go watch him
at Dre's. That's pretty much like the
performance, but there was no entertainment.
It's not like a performance. Were you able to rap along or
sing along to any of it? Yeah, other than.
A minor no no, but. There was.
A few no, but that's that's what I'm that's what I'm saying too,
is that the and, and maybe for me is because right before the
halftime show, because like I said, I didn't watch the Super
Bowl and I we turned it on just for the halftime and it was
because I got the background story and then I was like drawn
in that drew me in. And then so when he started
performing whatever. Again, I'm not a Kendrick fan,
but I was like, OK. And then when he fucking kind of
teased it. Oh, I wanna do your guys
favorite song. But you know what?
They like to sue and you know it.
They're not like us playing in the background.
But there was a build up before that even happened.
The Samuel Jackson intro was genius.
That was the best part of it. Like what?
Like what part of the music though?
Or the performance, other than the drama and the beef that it's
I guess is the what was like about the performance, what was
good. So there was a story that was
told. I think when you look at it in a
perspective of, OK, you knew what the beef was.
How was he going to intertwine that beef with a halftime show?
And he the glue to that whole thing was Samuel Jackson, the
Uncle Sam. He had to.
There was a lot of hidden stuff in that thing that you start to
see on social media now with like the PlayStation controller,
the XS and the OS. Like all that was genius.
You get Samuel Jackson to kind of say, look, for the people
that might not understand Kendrick, let me tell you what
this next song, what his next set is going to be about.
Oh, don't do that song. But look, he's talking about
like history. Then he's oh, 40 acres.
He got real deep into it like well, I don't think it went
over. It went over peoples head that
didn't let looked at it as saying I want to be entertained.
As someone that's watching Super Bowl show, looks like Riley just
said I want to be entertained. So I think on an entertainment
thing where it's not Taylor Swift or a Beyoncé or a Bruno
Mars, like everyone's looking for that wow factor.
But for as a hip hop fan, you got to say man, you got all
these people from whites, from rich to poor, all along the
stadium, all along the world, 140 million, can't beat that 140
million. Watch that on the show. 33
terrible people around it. I'm Madonna, Christina Aguilera,
Britney. But listen to the names that
you're saying. Those are pop.
Stars.
Had. Anybody else I think would have
been better? Because they're pop stars.
When you're looking at the pop stars are automatically supposed
to be the halftime show as how we grew up.
I grew up hip hop and R&B. To see a hip hop act West Coast
hip hop at Compton. That's kind of like the
nostalgia for me to kind of say I'm glad they didn't have a
Taylor Swift. I'm glad they didn't have like
these big old stars that would you know you already are
supposed to be as AUS get behind Kendrick kind of like put that
he. Could have did more.
Let's make it simple, yeah? Would you have enjoyed a Lil
Wayne halftime show better? Me, I'm not a Lil Wayne fan and
that and maybe I'm West Coast bias and but it would for
nostalgia for where it was at in New Orleans would have been
perfect. But the only reason that people
started saying oh, it should be the regional acts that should be
there is because Dre and Snoop did so far.
Yeah. So when they do LA they say OK,
so every city supposed to have their main artist be the one.
Now it's at the end of the day who's the hottest at the time
Kendrick and this Drake beef catapulted him to this pinnacle
of entertainment where not like us took him there.
So everybody, whether you're white, that's what's.
That why is the beef so big but. Even to me, like if if Drake was
to perform half time I I think it.
Would have been better, absolutely.
I I don't, I don't not agree with you.
He's an entertainer. But because I feel on my thing
with Drake didn't come back from not like us, he still hasn't
came back from it. They were doing little diss
songs and not like this kind of catapulted to the beef as a hip
hop beef and hip hop beef artist.
It never could come to blows, never could come to like.
But it's personal on what you rap about.
He talked about him being a pedophile, talked about him like
little girls. Like, that's part of the game of
hip hop. You want to pull every, you
know, every negative thing about somebody, glorify it.
And now that's the beef. Now it's my turn as Drake to go
do that to Kendrick. And he didn't do that.
And for him not doing that, there was like, oh, Drake lost.
Drake ain't tripping. He's not he's tripping, but he
ain't tripping off what Kendra's doing.
He's getting the free publicity too, because everyone's like,
man, what's Drake saying now? He's having his concerts.
I mean, his concerts were sold out anyway.
But now since there was no like retribution or there was no
rebuttal from Drake and still not to this day, that's going to
be not like not like us hit him up was one like Tupac.
He killed Biggie with that one, but Biggie was still able to do
that. Unfortunately, they died, but
now this was the hit him up. This was the hit him up of this
era. Sounds like what we're saying is
it wasn't that good of a performance, but it was
nostalgic. It goes along with you know
what, what with your childhood, it kind of reminds.
Elaborate on hot trash it. Wasn't great like what was?
No it wasn't. Articulate it.
No so for me. Other than the beat, I don't
understand what you like. About it.
But that's but that is what fucking drew me in.
So like for me, if, if it wasn't for that, if it and it if it
wasn't for everything, yeah, 100% I would not watch it.
Yeah, I would not watch the whole Super Bowl.
And I think it's manufactured. I do think these streams are
manufactured. There was a lot of fake streams
and you, you got to look at this.
You know it was. About to go solo and it it's the
same thing they did to Michael Jackson back in the day.
It's when I say it's Michael Jackson's competition.
Own all these catalogs. And right when Drake was about
to own his catalog and he was about to start making a hundred
$200 million a year and change the whole record industry, look
what happened with UMG and Universal.
But like we, we're, we're talking about like litigation.
They just settled out of court. So.
So for this thing, they settled. They settled.
It's supposed to be a nine figure.
So you don't to me, I always think like when beef like this,
you don't think Kendrick and Drake are in a room like this,
like forgot him. I don't think so.
They were. They were.
You watch video from them back in the day they were.
Too. They were close, Yeah, they was
close. But it always happens like that.
They're close, you know, just like Tupac big.
It was quite until Faith, until Tupac got fucked Faith and then
they kind of fucked everything up because it was over, you
know, whatever it was. But like the beef is like if
that was manufactured to make this beef be so big that you it
was so big to have Kendrick be on the halftime show of the
Super Bowl. Then it it it worked its
purpose. And that's why I'm saying it
wasn't as trash as everyone's saying academic, some Kaiser,
not one of the biggest was saying, oh man, that was filling
in crowd noise. It's like it's the talk of the
town, right? Now bro, it looks like they
were. Does it not look like they were?
Because if you look at the footage in the stadium, quiet
silence, you're talking. About the Nosebleed seats
though, you're talking about the Nosebleed seats where there's
people that can't even afford those that would are Kendrick
fans that are probably at home watching it.
Like when I was watching it, it was a vibe.
Like I watched it with the comic Kings were.
Outside. And pedophile peekaboo that
holds the pedophile like I don't see like as as Justin and
Raleigh looking as trash. What makes you sit there and say
this is trash because it's not like a Taylor Swift concert or
or like what made you guys say this is trash?
I like the. Like the extravagance, like the
fireworks or some shit shit and. You know what?
It's funny, I'm the opposite. I I just like.
Less is more. Yes, and I like that he they was
able to like he for one, he fucking stood on his business,
right? Yeah.
He was like, oh, lawsuit aside, fuck you, I'm not seeing it
anyway. And he did it, but he still did
it in a fucking cool way. He could have.
It was brilliantly set up. Like he could have went, you
know, like whatever and made it fucking trash or whatever.
No, he didn't. I 100% think touching back to
what you guys kind of just or you this is way fucking better
than the weekend that was see, but see, see, and that's the
difference though, And and that's the difference in opinion
wise is you just said you like all that extravagant shit and I
and I don't like I don't give a fuck if they're flying up
through the rafters and this and that and oh, he he he was
singing up here and singing out there like like, bro, I'm not
watching WWE. Bro I look at performance like
so you look at only run back and forth rapping so many times.
But Rihanna was pregnant on a platform pregnant.
But it's all about running back and forth.
Weekend was running in a glass house, but.
It was. A.
Glass. House, yeah.
So the weekends on was terrible. Yeah, but so the last she was
actually right. Right Weekend is one of them.
But then I said every Madonna was numbered a fucking no.
That was who was Janet Jackson? Just Timberlake.
Oh, that was a while ago. Yeah, my my usher.
Rollerblades. My favorite in recent memory was
Bruno and then the LA Yeah Doctor.
Dre with $0.50 and yeah. That fucking hit me because
that's, again, that's the era. Yeah, era.
But it was a that was some of the best hits that they've put
out through their whole entire careers.
Like this Kendrick catalog. It was just him.
And it wasn't great. Yeah, it was usually like even
for for like me. I'm not even on fucking Kendrick
outside of what is they not like us and squabble up.
Honestly can't even really. Yeah. 880 but there's a few like
loyalty, which. Is you had to like, you had to
be a fan of rat beefs to like the halftime show.
I put like this like I'm not like a, I'm not a huge, I'm not
a huge. That's what I'm saying.
That's exactly what I mean. But it broid that that for me
hit the entertainment factor. I I like Mari, right?
Yeah, What was Jerry? Jerry.
I like all those shows too, but that's not halftime
entertainment to me. So.
So what? So when you say it's not
halftime entertainment, you're your thought process on what
halftime entertainment should be is extravagant, right?
So everyone's going to have their outlook on what their
expectation is of what a halftime show should be because
of past performances, because of the Madonnas or the Beyoncé's,
the Bruno's, because it was such a big thing.
Like for music, it was like, OK, that's the expectation level for
everyone. When you come to this thing and
say, man, they got this kid from Compton performing at the
halftime show, that's so huge on a level where people ain't
seeing where they only did pop artists.
They didn't give a shit about hip hop.
They only did the top of the top Michael Jackson to the weekend
to come say this song has so much of of influence on the
whole world to kind of say, hey, we need this Kendrick Drake beef
to be halftime show. They would never did this for
hip hop in a million years. But to have that story that that
Brad was just talking about, that kind of added fuel to the
flame work it makes. It lame to me.
But why? But the only what makes it lame?
Because what? Because it wasn't extravagant.
No, it's just it's just we're basing it off like a petty like
whack beef, like but I don't I love what J.
Cole did. Like everybody talks about J.
Cole was smart not attacking Kendrick like God, I think he
was just like mature about it. Why am I gonna?
He was mature, but in the street she was a bitch.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, at the end of the day, that's ignorant though, no?
Absolutely an adult, right so. You have to look so keep that
like when you say it ignorant when you grew up, like how some
of these West Coast kid grew up to see that was a dream.
Like I can only speak for my himself, like for the West Coast
to see a Compton rapper that I wasn't really that big of a fan
of, but I knew certain or his songs and I I I supported him
because he was from the West Compton.
OK, he had a few good songs, but he wasn't my favorite.
Drake still has those hits. Drake's catalog is it was not.
There's no, there's no denying that.
Probably this year he's probably going to come out some bangers
this. Year exactly you can.
Play in the club. This not like.
This teeny bopper will know it. Every old person will know it
will know it. Yeah, I don't care how quiet it
was that people say, say was in the stadium when a minor came
on. For a black rapper to have rich
white people say a minor that's right.
There can be evolution in his own mind because they would have
never did that for anybody else. They're like, they had Trump
there. He did this in front of Trump,
you know what I mean? Like I don't think people are
seeing with the stature. Of But that's the special
engineering of social media, absolutely.
And I think that's why we're here.
We're here because. Even when they had 50 what we
knew every word, yes. Of the whole, Because we were
fans, yeah, we were fans of $0.50.
We grew up on Snoop. We grew up on, on, on, on Doctor
Dre, all that. Mary J Blige.
Remember all these people. That was hip hop artists, but
they brought out so much people that made it good.
They didn't even bring out lefty gunplay.
He did crazy. So like what What I would like
to see during this? What the fuck?
What I think in the perfect world, I think what people would
have seen in music and being a music fan, being in New Orleans,
knowing what happened with Doctor Dre, how he brought out
50, I brought him Mary J Blige. What I would have said as a
music fan, it would have been dope for him to say, oh, don't
juvenile come out, do back that asshole Lil Wayne come out and
do Lollipop. That's what I mean.
Master P come out and do make him say oh, because that's the
New Orleans. Performance.
What? But he has to realize as an
artist, I'm going to take full opportunity and full advantage
of my platform to say this is my GNX album.
Now he's got a million followers and now that album's going
crazy. People would never got it.
Now you get the. Stream brought out those rappers
or those guys. He would have grew his following
even more. Here's the problem.
He can't because who was the rapper that put him on?
Who? Drake, yeah.
Put him on. Hey shut up.
Drake did not put Kendrick on. What's the first time you heard
Kendrick Care? City mad City was the.
First came out first. Butterflies was another one that
he came. Care came out first, took him on
tour before mad City. He ever drunk but.
I knew about as a West Coast hip hop fan, I knew Kendrick.
Bro I I couldn't even fucking tell you the first song I heard.
Kendrick. This.
No, he's not.
He, he's not. I like his music.
Yeah, you say. I just performance wise.
See, but I I want to elaborate on.
Justin saying that all my. Life, all money, is the.
Standard of all the previous Super Bowls all.
The standard was set so high by these previous artists that
never lived. So you were spoiled.
In my opinion, I think this is better than Rihanna's, better
than the weekend. The only ones like I said that
I'll I'll put in recent years above them is Bruno and the LA
SO. Do you like Keeping Up With the
Kardashians? No.
'Cause it. That's what you're saying.
You want social media beef and drama over art and performance
and entertainment. Oh, I'd rather have like,
fucking yeah. You're saying like a Bruno Mars
or something like that would have been better than Kendrick
Lamar? Bruno yeah, 100%.
So, but look at look at where it's at now.
Like Bruno? But not the weekend, yeah.
Not really. Not a weekend fan meetings that.
Was a fair, actually. That was a for you, but I think
everyone like Timberly Madonna. So listen to those names that
you're saying right now. Who would have ever thought A?
Rapper would be in. This is so high, yes.
And that's why that makes this so much dope for.
Me is why? Because the.
Standard was so raised so high. I just went from like this to
like. Because you're standard, because
you're so like, I want all these pop artists to pop off.
No, but I like. I just want talent, good
entertainment. You know what?
I. Mean that was entertaining.
The whole beef though. The whole beef and hot.
That just that is the beef made it that much better that would.
Have been a dope performance for Dre's.
So we're you, exactly. Yeah, no, but what I say let's
start. No, so but what you guys are
saying is you guys want entertainment that was nothing
but entertainment. Absolutely the 100% the
performance side of things in your guy's opinion, even if that
was lacking. Bro the fucking entertainment is
just. And the story Fucking.
Blew up the fucking. Internet artistic.
I mean, I wasn't entertaining, artistic.
I wasn't always seen by the rat beef at all.
Yeah, I wasn't entertained. Like to me that's like as boring
as like. So rat beef was just one element
of it. If you're looking at the Samuel
Jackson Uncle Sam take, that's a whole different element.
Serena Williams, whole different element.
That was lame scissor whole different.
Element crip walk on your dead sister bro.
That's. Crazy.
That's crazy. You have to look at for
entertainment factor, for entertainment value, if that's
what we're going for. That was beyond entertaining.
Yeah, because it had the Drake beef, it had the political beef,
it had the 40 acre, there's a new mule type thing.
It all intertwined and he did it so dope that you kind of looked
at it and the world is talking about it.
Shit, we're here talking about it because everybody on social
media, everyone on Instagram has their take, whether it's
negative, whether it's positive. Kaiser, not one of the biggest
streamers, him, he's talking about it.
Everyone's talking about where, you know, what is your take?
So that's why when we was in the comment, I said, look, our take
has to be just like everybody else's because somebody's going
to agree with you guys, somebody's going to agree with
us. But the fact of the matter is
that performance did exactly what it did 'cause we're all
talking about country. That's not a performance.
Oh, you're tripping? So what?
OK, Chris. Brown would it be?
Absolutely. Let me ask you guys.
Well, he's a fucking performer. Yeah, that's.
Right, that's what I personally thinking off of is like anytime
Usher plays in Vegas, I'm there absolutely 'cause that's a
fucking performance, you know what I mean?
Like no matter how many times I watch it, like I started off
like mid seats. Now me and Garcia's front roll
all Usher concerts. So let's look, I'm gonna say
exactly what you said, Performance.
You're looking for a performance when you watch the Super Bowl,
are you paying like are you paying money to go see Usher or
more of these other performers right.
You pay to see these just in general public and I mean we got
VIP a couple we'll. Pay for.
So you paid for that, but did you pay?
Would you? Did you?
We don't have to pay for the Super Bowl show.
That's entertainment that's given already, which for free.
That's why somebody's, everyone's so opinionated
because it's a free show that we're able to sit there and talk
our shit about whether it's negative or positive.
Like Kendra did. Whack.
So that's why when we were commenting on it, I was like,
man, Brad sees his aspect of it. Everyone has their own aspect of
how their their vision of how they seen it.
You're saying it wasn't that much of A performance.
It's just trash to Justin. It's.
Trash. No, no, it's just I, like I
said, I see the artistic side of it, you know what I mean?
But. But we needed the elaboration of
why it's so trash. Performance wise.
We need Justin the elaboration. So why?
Who? Let me ask you this then.
So who? So this year you guys would
probably wanted it to be Lil Wayne, right?
That's kind of the other guy was.
But if it wasn't in New Orleans? Lil Wayne.
Jelly Roll. There.
If it wasn't, did you say Jelly Roll?
Jelly Roll is huge right now. And I get a huge moment, but is
the only reason you said it should have been Lil Wayne is
because it was in New Orleans? I think that's a part of it.
But the catalog that hits. Yeah, right.
Like what? Rappers got more hits than Lil
Wayne. I love Lil Wayne but I've been
to his concert. I can't understand.
It's horrible. I've been to him at Dre's too.
It's it's not have. You ever seen his lives look?
Yes. It's not a performance.
I've been Lil Wayne. Sorry, it's not.
A performance? Oh, but yeah.
But I wouldn't. Don't judge him off Dre's.
Yeah, because I I heard. I heard.
No, I've been to Lil Wayne in Hawaii too.
Yeah, OK, 'cause I heard Nellie Andres and I was like bro, is
that what the fuck? But then I heard Nellie perform
at All Lovers and Friends and he fucked.
Killed that sounds. Yeah, that fucking lovers and
friends line up Lil John TI. Oh dogs, sign me up for that
over. All day, all day, that's.
What you call? Bro, that's the.
Great. I'm not.
I'm. Not fighting.
I'm not fighting for fucking all.
Kendrick is the best yes and that, like I said, I don't even
really care for Kendrick. Yeah, but you cannot call that
fucking trash. That shit was straight
entertainment. And if and if bro, like now, OK,
so you guys think it's trash, whatever the performance.
But now what I want you guys to do is go back and and start
looking at like just look at some of the little fucking
things that he did in it and. Did you rewatch it?
The little, the little pokes that he's taking.
And shit, yeah, no. I I seen it and.
Bro, just the fact like so many guys nowadays in this fucking
pussy cancel culture generation of ours is Oh yeah.
Oh, lawsuit. OK, done.
We can't talk about it. Fucking this that, whatever.
Not this fucker is like fuck, we teased him.
I'm gonna do it. Yeah, he teased it.
He got you hyped. For it, Samuel Jackson was like,
don't do it. Why'd America go?
And so he's like, no, no, I'm not gonna do it.
It just seems lame, like I don't like.
Why does it seem lame? I need to know this.
You're I got everybody on my side.
You're a pedophile. Tell them guys.
Tell them pedophile. Like it's just.
So where's the comeback? What's the?
Where's the comeback from Drake? Why?
I don't think why would you? Need a comeback?
It's the latest thing ever. Drake doesn't need a you're a
fucking still packing which. Why?
Why would you have to? Reply to Talking about.
Why would you have to reply to the hater?
Why would you have to reply to the haters?
Just thing shit that's not true. It's.
Just hip hop you have to. It's it's the art of hip hop.
It's battle rap. God, they don't.
They don't. This guy, everybody's so sure.
They don't. They don't.
He ain't shoot. Shit from everybody shooting him
for some. Reason Drake's been on the top
for so long, they yeah, Kendrick came along whatever, but you
don't think he's gonna end up on the.
Let's let's not let's not get it twisted before not like this
came out. Drake had this songs going back
and. Forth has the Best Song out of
the beef. What?
Song, What is it? The Family Matters is the best.
Song. So that was better than not like
that. 100% musically. Musically.
I'm a Drake fan, no. It's not producing, producing.
But listen what you? Just got a better producer, I'll
give you that. But listen, what you just said,
why was everyone kind of siding with Kendrick?
But Drake did the same thing. He did a, a a diss record to to
Kendrick. So why it was going back and
forth? But now that not like this kind
of went pinnacle. Now it was like, Oh yeah, no,
he's not answering to him. He did answer to him because
they were going back and forth and had songs going back.
But not like us was like, why didn't Drake come back from
that? That's what?
And like I said, I'm not a Drake, you know, hater at all.
But how come he didn't come back from not like us?
Because it was just too far of a hit to.
He won Grammys 5 Grammys for this song.
I think that for one, I think that was genetic.
I mean, artists like Russ exposed it, right?
Yeah. Of the pump it's.
A popularity contest. Right.
And the streaming and how a lot of it is fake.
Most of it is. Absolutely.
They think that Kendrick's Not Like Us is the most fake stream
song of all time. But it but look what it did to
society. It made him a halftime Super
Bowl halftime performer, right? They made him a five time Grammy
Award winner for that song, right?
He has Grammys before that. So So what else do you think
these these other big huge corporations can influence us to
do? Anyone could do it with with
influence on social media and everything that you're looking
at us as what we're doing now watch the Super Bowl like
everybody else and everybody looking at it.
And back ten years ago, we could have never did this.
Everyone just kind of kept their opinion to themselves.
Now that we have social media, now that we have podcasts, now
that we have all these platforms, now everybody's
opinion is a solid gold, right? But you have to look at it.
If it really was just looking at it, we didn't do this right Now
you say, oh, it was wack and it would go on about our day.
Now that social media is making this priority #1 where it's the
hot topic on all these different podcasts, all these different
social media sites, now everyone has to have opinion to see who
has a better gripe and who has a better solution for what we just
watched. You think Kendrick is tripping
off what we're talking about? Anything Drake's tripping off
over tripping on right now? No, because Kendrick is feeding
into whether it's bad publicity or good publicity, whether you
hated it on them, whether it was a trash performance, whether we
liked it. He still did what he had to do
and he's going to reap the benefits for all the things that
that happened for that Super Bowl show.
Who do you think is going to be next year or who?
Who won? And it's in the Bay Area.
It's at the Niners at Levi Stadium.
I would love if it was Drake. You know how crazy that would
be? But see knowing that.
Actually, because I didn't care. Like I'm a Niner fan and it's it
at the Niners home. Like I was here at at Allegiant
last year when the Niners lost to the Chiefs, but I was there
and who who Usher would did that one because it it matched.
Usher was the Adele. Because you want performance.
Yeah, see, but me that I would fucking love that.
Yeah, as funny as it sounds, I would as a fan, as a fan, but I
wouldn't want this is how I would want it.
I wouldn't want no fucking extra special.
Nothing. I just want to fucking hear her
sing. And kill it.
But according to Raleigh, he wants the fireworks up her ass.
He wants the dolphin gonna fly it over.
Fucking flying off. But being from the Bay and
having it at where the Niners play in Santa Clara, of course,
because we know what they did at Sofi with Doctor Dre.
So my first we all want E40, want all these Bay, but it's not
going to happen because now. What if they do bring on E40?
That's why I say like, if we do, he could have brought like he
could have brought he. Could have brought all the New
Orleans rappers, but that wasn't cool to do until Dre and Snoop
did it at Sofi. It just so happened they were
saying we're at Sofi Stadium, we're in LA, we got to get.
Dre and Snoop, most Super Bowl performances had more than one
person, right? Yeah.
They had, like, numerous. Yeah.
Like it was like this guy, that girl, this guy, like.
I was waiting the whole halftime show for it to jump to somebody
else. For you, we're just showing
like, like we're, we're talking about.
Kendrick took advantage of his opportunity.
He could have easily said, you know, I want do Lil Wayne, but
he was like, Nah, I still want to kind of feed into this beef,
which is whack to some and whack to be Sissa and the two ex
girlfriends with with her doing the crib was like that added
fuel to the fire, you know what I mean?
So that kind of has everybody talking where if he would have
had like Lil Wayne, we would have been talking man, this
best, best Super Bowl show ever. But since he didn't now it's
kind of like he was whacked because he didn't do what I
wanted him to do. He doesn't have to really do
what we want him to do because he's going to do what he did.
And what he did was kind of say, I'm going to take this 8 minutes
of what they're giving me. I'm not getting paid for it, but
I'm going to get paid longevity wise, exposure wise, because
everyone's going to talk about it, man.
Remember what Kendrick did, whether they hate or not, I'm
not. His name is still in people's
mouth. I'm talking about white
newscasters, people that that would never talk about Kendrick
Lamar, would never have talked about a hip hop act from from
Compton. But now they're doing it
religiously on entertainment. Social media is on Entertainment
Tonight. But now his name is in
everybody's mouth. All publicity is good publicity,
because he's going to eat off that, Drake eating off that.
Not really what we're going to do.
We're going to celebrate and hold up on a pinnacle.
It's a society we live in, Jay. Social media beefs that that's
what we're going to celebrate. Unfortunately, it's the society
we live in, Like B comes, B comes from a fighting background
like this beef, like if you had a beef with a fighter, you don't
think him like you, you sell a fight, right?
Everyone has to sell a fight. So this is I'm glad I brought
this up. So when Brad is is trying to
sell a fight, you know you're going to talk shit about, even
though you really don't like the dude.
But you guys, you guys might like each other, but because to
sell the fighter, hey, B try to sell this fight, you have to go
in there talking shit about his girl.
Whatever you it takes to to sell this fight as a boxer, as AUFC
fighter. So but you really don't feel
like that about the dude. Hey, after he's done, you show
respect to each other. And you know, even at the
proposed press conference, Oh yeah, we were just saying that
to sell the fight. That's exactly what this was.
This is a perfect example. So bro, what if, what if, What
if your upcoming opponent said Brad Tavares is a edophile?
Yeah. What's your reaction to that?
Brad's gonna whoop that motherfucker's ass, I'll tell
you that. One, I was just laughing, yeah.
Yeah, but you're a veteran. That's.
Why? I was just laughing, but what
did the interview? No young, young Brad that used
to when I used to see him at the club, he'd walk right in and the
security tried to grab him. What the fuck you gonna do about
it? Yeah, that's that's that's
that's different. Different, right?
Yeah, too. But that's because I grew up on
fucking the fucking biggie B. They fucking shooting at each
other kid real. Bro I forget what club he's at,
he's all dressed up. Brad walked in with shorts AT
shirt and A and A and shorts, shorts, T-shirt and like
slippers. They got to do that, you guys.
Have to grab with me. He's like, what the fuck are you
going to do? And he just kept walking.
I was like sharing with him. But knowing that about Brad,
like when you have a fight, do they kind of pressure you guys?
Hey, you guys have to sell the fight?
Is that something that you guys? Not really.
Yeah. I would say they always try to
get something out of you when you do, you know, like right
before the they air the fight and they show you talking.
Yeah. And the, it's like kind of like
dark in the back or whatever. That's when the, the questions
they asked are prompted. Like they kind of prompt you to
like, say a story trigger you. Yeah, no 'cause they're like,
oh, so we want you to, how are you, how are you going to finish
this fight tonight? Or why are you, why are you
better than him or whatever? Even though I wouldn't be like,
Oh yeah, I'm fucking better than him, you know what I mean?
Like something. Yeah, I, I wouldn't say that,
but that's how they kind of lead you.
And, and you have to answer it like this.
So they asked also why are you better than and, and it's
something you got to answer, like, so tonight I'm better than
Justin because yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Like, so they lead you into it, Yeah.
Yeah, that's what this society does.
Like when Mike Tyson, when he came out of jail, his opponent
was like, oh, this jailbird, like that's the talk because
you're selling the fight. This was also selling the
halftime show. Man I wonder if he's going to do
not like us that sold it to people.
No, 100% it did for me. That's what it was.
That's the whole sole reason why I watch it.
And I promise you, I promise you this.
If he didn't fucking do that, I'd have been like.
Shot him right along with you, yeah.
This, this, this wouldn't be here right now.
We wouldn't be having this conversation.
But I think it's artistic. No, I think, I think really what
it is is that we just all looking at it through through
different lenses, right, Yeah, like you guys for your guys.
No, I look at entertainment. Yes, no.
So yeah, we don't know what. No, no, no, no.
But. But again I.
Love. We see and and I don't really
care for them and we on the different side of the culture
and all, but even on your guys side of the culture versus
versus ours, like I'm also looking at it through a
different lens than Cisco is, right.
So for Cisco is everything he brought up the the nostalgia,
the West Coast thing, blah, blah, blah.
For me was more so I was just the whole thing was built on.
Oh fuck yeah. So is he going to do it?
Is it? Does he have the balls?
And that sold it for you? Bro what?
Bro? It's like fucking, it's like
being up at like fucking 2 tons. And is he going to jump?
Yeah, yeah. Is he going to?
Fucking jump, you know what I mean?
It's. Suspense.
It is suspense the build up. Then and then the literally yes.
And then he kind of teased it and drew me in.
I was like, oh, OK, exactly. And then I watched.
I, I understand the artistic side, but I said we're all
different. I was look, I look at
entertainment. No, and and again, like even
like I didn't pay as close attention to like the fucking
dancing and the whatever. Firecrackers.
Out the bull, whatever. Yeah, 'cause I was just like, is
he gonna do it? Is he gonna sing the song?
And he fucking finally did. I was like, this fucker is the
man now. I like him.
Oh my God. It was brilliantly set up from
Samuel Jackson narrating to the white people that didn't know
what was going on or to the people that didn't understand
it. He was like.
About the guy that crashed it and was on the car with the.
With the the Palestinian flag, don't take the opportunity to go
do it. It's no, because you got to look
at those. I didn't.
I didn't know that happened. Until I didn't know that
happened. I saw on Instagram.
Yeah, there's some guy. Shut out Ghazi.
Like jumped over. And every, every like, big thing
like that, like, so there's going to be someone who's going
to look for an opportunity. Yeah, if I'm a dancer, like,
man, this is my opportunity. I'm never going to have this
opportunity ever in my life again to go take a stand on what
I believe in. Right.
So I think when that kid jumped up on the, he jumped up on the
Grand National, had the flag. And that was dope because people
that support that do it, But people that don't support, who
the fuck's this kid doing that? How you guys let him do it?
Now there's another talk. What was he holding up?
Now you're drawing. Attention, but he didn't do.
But now that he's on social media, he didn't do, even if he
didn't do a good job of kind of getting his his thing now also
with the power of social media, you have higher ups saying, man,
get me that kids number. I want to, you know, give him
something. I don't think they caught it in
the Super. I think they caught it like all
the the fans that were filming in the crowd caught it because.
He's not on the actual. When he jumped on the car,
people thought it was a part of the.
Show no. When I saw it on and the thing,
I thought it was part of the show and then when I read down I
was like, oh, it was like a. Protester, Protester.
But that's like saying something like say I was one of the
dancers and and thing and Brad had a fight coming up.
But we're like best friends and we're sitting and I'm looking.
I'm like, man, Super Bowl. The big lights are on there and
I have like a Brad Tavar shirt on.
I'm going to use this opportunity, hop on the car, but
like go to Brad's fight because you're looking for that one time
and that shock value took the shock value, everything shock
value for him to say. Is he going to do it?
With a flag that opens up really good like we don't.
Got a lot of time because I didn't let you down.
If I'm, if I'm going to streak the field, I'm going with cleats
tied up. Yeah, like everybody goes with
shoes. They slip.
I'm like, oh, I'm going there. Cleats is on tied I'm jumping
over. Oil.
Oil yourself, Yeah. Yeah, oil.
So. They oil push ups.
Before you go out there. And also when they security grab
you slip out like I'm on one of those I'm wearing cleats, I'm
planning it out you. Know, but look at what we're
talking about right now, like at the end of the day you guys just
take on it, me and Brad take it everyone has their own like
different legs, a different lens.
The fact of the matter is it did what it's supposed to do and
what you're supposed to do when you go into the meeting and say,
hey, So what are you going to do for halftime show?
I'm going to fucking shock the fucking world.
And that's what he did. Whether it's bad or good, he did
what he had to do. And I don't think it's the worst
Super Bowl performance ever. No, 100% it's up there.
No, but it is post. 19. 93 is top five in the last 10 years
the. Last 10 years it's definitely
top five for. Me top three worst no.
Top see, but you're not elaborating on that.
Elaborate why you think it's the worst.
The song was good. Every one of them for me,
everyone was good. None.
So not like this wasn't good for you I think.
That song's trash. But why was it trash though?
I. Lyrically, I don't.
I don't like it so. Your personal opinion caused you
to say this was trash? Just being a personal opinion
saying I don't like this song so I'm going to say.
This thing was trash like any of the songs.
So if you don't like any of the songs, yeah, it was trashed to
you, right? Last 10 years.
Usher, Alicia Keys, Jermaine Dupri.
That was better. Lil Jon Ludacris 23 Rihanna 22
Eminem Andre Snoop Dogg Kendrick See Kendrick was on.
There that no, he was on there. I didn't even.
Notice that one? Tony 2 Barry G that I can think
21 on top of my head the weekend.
No, that one is probably. 2020 for me.
Shakira, Jennifer Lopez, Bad Bunny.
Was fire. Nah, that was Bad Bunny.
Is always dull, see. Look.
Shakira So look how we just said
2019 Maroon 5. Travis Spanish 2018 Justin
Timberlake 2017 Lady Gaga. But listen to how he's going
down the list of performers, and we're all saying, because that's
our opinion. But they put on their hit, they
put on their best songs. There I went.
To a reggaeton rave the other week.
I understand one thing that was going on but.
It was dope. But it was a fucking dope.
What's a reggaeton rave? That was my first time.
I mean I ever heard of it bro. Is that area 15?
Is it? But everything was not in
English. But we understand each other
through the music. We understand each other.
So, so wait. I'm glad you said that.
Take it right there. You didn't understand anything
that went on there, but you had a good time.
But the yeah. Justin didn't like any of the
songs that Kendrick did, but it was like, ah, but he was still
there. Like whether Justin liked the
performers or liked any of the songs or not, it still happened.
Whether you liked the rave and you don't understand, it still
happened. So whatever anybody's opinion is
that halftime show still happened and it'll go down in
history. He's still going to get the the.
So that's why I'm saying everyone has like, like Brad
says, through their own lens. I'm just having a hard time
thinking why it was so. It has to be personal.
Jake Well, I said it artistic wise because like I said, we are
creatives. I understand it.
But I look at like all the guys I just read off like there's
performers. I can't.
I couldn't name you the songs right that were played, but I
imagine they're the ones where you see the meme on Instagram
where it's like Kendra fans will look you in the eye while this
song plays and tell you that it's good music.
So if you trip the. First song he opened up with was
a song that what hasn't been released yet opportunity as an
artist as a creative, you have to say no one knows this song so
I'm going to open it up a lot of people are already saying well
dude why are you going to open up with a song that nobody knows
because as a creative as an artist I'm gonna say they're
going to know it after this that's.
The best promotion, right? Do you know what I mean?
Do you have a? Song in front of 100.
And 33 million people. No, but they've got a couple of
songs that slap right. OK, you don't listen to
Coldplay. Did you watch?
Did you watch that performance? And it slapped, right?
You liked it? It slapped like like they had
great energy, like it was not my type of music, but they but.
You never know any of the songs. No, there's a couple, there's
seen like one or two of their songs.
They got like one of those like white boy songs I like.
See, it's 'cause the. One white boy song that I like.
He was waiting for that song, the whole performance.
I can't wait for that one song to come on.
But you didn't know the rest of the songs.
But it was great energy. It was good like.
No, the energy is fine, but you didn't know any of the song.
Correct. And I just don't think a social
media beef is enough to like, get me excited like.
But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, we literally
didn't have a fucking conversation about any of the
other ones except this one. Yeah, because others are really
good. No, but even even even a good
one, there's not. There's no conversation fucking
around. That's why I said.
The Black Eyed Peas was they, they talked a lot of shit about
that one. The Black Eyed Peas, they.
They just even Coldplay like no one on this level went to so
because it wasn't available at that time, but no one was
talking like the way we're talking now about anything
because we just we we see Coldplay.
All right, cool, let's wait for next year.
We didn't really didn't have an opinion about it.
You know what I mean? Unless somebody say, what do you
think happened? Oh, I was waiting for that one
song and it was cool. Like it wasn't.
But now we're dissecting. Kendrick from the No, no, we
were, we were, we were doing, we were doing it with when?
Cause Bruno Mars and Beyoncé had done it before.
They did it in San Francisco, right?
So they, like they were talking about like Beyoncé was the star
of the show. It wasn't really.
Yeah, we have been breaking it down hard for a long time.
Everything. Was a positive light.
It was more than a positive light where it was like this
one's put that put that right there because as it's an opinion
that Justin has, which is fine, like we don't lose no money or
lose no sleep off of what Justin's opinion is.
Everyone's going to have it. The next Super Bowl show will
probably have another discussion because there's going to be
more. We'll probably have to be more
integrated into it. It depends on who it.
Is Chris Brown, Then we'll be like.
See, but OK, let's bring that up.
If it's Chris Brown, all the domestic violence just going to
come up, all the wives, Veder girls, they're going to protest.
No, but but but listen to that. If Chris Brown does it, how much
bad beep he's going to get from all the de naughty girls,
battered women that. Arrow's done.
Because Trump 2024, I don't think you can still punch girls
in the face. Yeah, the arrow's still going.
Punch you to be like but it was a Dope Show though.
You know what? I.
Mean no writer writer next year. And you kind of touched on it.
Bro. I would be sick.
Fucking Jelly roll and Morgan Wallin.
Something like that, that'd be done.
And that's not my type of music. Yeah, I don't even like that.
Would be dope. I like Jelly roll bro.
Jelly. Rolls OJG bro yeah.
Oh, his his concert or the the one with him?
Morgan. I went to order just a Jelly
roll. Concert but listen to this
conversation this is a wish list of what we would love to have
there yeah but what they force feet to us and what's going to
be we have to just accept it you know what I mean so.
So. Jay-Z.
Bro, I was.
I was just watching a fucking interview and Jay-Z apparently
is the one who fought. Yeah, besides.
He's the coordinator. He.
Has that. Somebody was saying that this
might be his last one or. Something that they just, they
just resigned, didn't. They there was, I mean, Jay-Z is
going to have his like, like I said, there's going to be
everyone's thing on it. But Jay-Z as I think as long as
so Jay ZS first one I think was Dre and Snoop.
That was his first one that he can be together.
But if you look at it, all the ones like what was last year,
ever since Jay-Z got that seat, yeah, sure, it's been nothing
but urban artists, right? Let's call it what it is.
Same thing whether it's Doctor Dre, it's Snoop, Usher, now
Kendrick. So now now the whites are
uptight. Like dude, what are?
We gonna have. White bro, you know what I mean?
So call it what it is, but now, ever since now that Jay's in
there, there's someone in there that that's actually bringing
artists that I actually can resonate with.
But I still like Jelly Roll and Morgan Wallace.
But the people that's on the Super Bowl stage, I could, I was
jamming to it with my friends. People that I knew had the same
vision that I had. Like if I was me and Jess were
sitting there, he was like, it's transit, like Jessica go there.
Because it's just a vibe at the end of the day.
But I think we're going to be forced or whatever they give us.
It could be whoever and wouldn't sit there and say it should have
been that. But who?
No one cares at the end of the day because they're still going
to get paid what they get. They don't get paid for it, but
they're going to get paid and expose everything.
EDM artists would end up on there.
Absolutely. I could see like a TS store or
somebody doing trash. Yeah, but that exactly.
But we would sit there and probably I wouldn't watch it,
but I'd probably go get rid of something to eat at that time.
I like EDM too, but I think it. Wouldn't match the Super.
Bowl. Yeah, I don't think so, but it
was. EDMI think coming through EDM
with. Kendra.
But check this out. Like if Tiësto was having no
Avicii and they had a beef, they were like, we're going to have
Avicii on this end zone and Tiësto on that.
Yeah. And they're going to go.
At it the only homo set. Up one of the only artists I
could see, Artists, I guess you call them whatever D JS I could
see pulling it off, but he's dead is Avicii.
Avicii could have pulled it off. I think Calvin Harris was a part
of one of the Super Bowls one time.
Steve Aoki could just cake somebody, Steve.
Aoki is good too, I like him. I try to get kicked all the time
and fuck I never get kicked. I'm on fucking people shoulders
like fucking raising my hand. Fucking don't ever get it.
But what I what I like about this is that Justin's going to
have a field day to clip up everyone's, you know, opinion,
opinion on it. And once it goes out, look at
the comments that have come under it.
But because this conversation is had with, you know, we're all
friends and we have our views, but once we put it up on social
media, they're going to take a side, Oh, I'm on I'm on Cisco
and B side. Oh, I'm on Riley and just aside
because now we didn't put everybody on.
There's a divide, you know what I mean?
I think at the end of the day, that's what the society is, as
long as we put up against each other.
But at the end of the day, after we're done with this, we're
going to go on and still be friends and kind of do our
thing. But that's what the beauty of.
You got to look at the silver lining, the whole thing, whether
Jay doesn't like it or whether me and B do like it in certain
ways to do it, we're still going to carry on and go on with our
lives. But he's just saying, I remember
that conversation we had about Kendrick and now we see who's
the next one. I remember we talked about that.
So I think at the end of the day, you got to look at what
social media is doing to the world and what this society we
live in. We're all in different aspects
of it. Everyone can have their own
opinion. Their own opinion, like we got a
UFC fighter, we got a podcast, we got a clothing brand, we got
everyone that's content creators where we can do this.
Thank God we live in a country that we can be freely and do
this, to do that from there. So I think at the end of the
day, I have my my my opinion about Kendrick.
It was dope as like of what I seen as a kid with JC.
I still don't know what JC but but it was trash, yeah.
But I see the artistic side. But exactly for me, I look at
like the. But this conversation was so
dope. There's no.
Fireworks. That's why he.
Works like. We need to deal, we need to deal
with a bottle rocket come out around.
Sparklers and. Kendrick's one of the best
rappers of all time, and he had none of his best verses out
there. I don't know.
About so I don't know, I don't know at all time well.
For me. Some of it Kendrick's versus
especially like early 2000s and mid 2010, he's a good.
I still think. That, but the flow, everything
he was, he's one of the best still.
A Drake fan no matter what. But for me, Kendrick, Kendrick
is not even top five in my top five, but.
Who's your top five though? He's like like top 15 for me
type of thing. But my top five would be so
different than Raleigh's top five.
My top five would be so different than Brad's top five.
Old. Old school guys or?
That's well, there's no newer school guys, but like like if I
said somebody like sucks me being from the raised in the Bay
Area and you guys be raised in Hawaii.
I was always in the Bay. So I I kind of like appreciate.
All who are Who is top five rappers for you all time?
Is Keek the sneak in there? No, and I'm a Bay dude and I'm a
Bay and I love Keek, but he's just not a lyricist.
He's like, you know, we had our high fee movement.
We had yeah, he's a vibe. Exactly.
Yeah, I mean, and all that stuff too.
But like I think the longevity that Too Short and E 40s had in
this game, I think that being from the Bay Area, you know, him
being from Vallejo, too short is like 60 years old.
Everybody knows doing. Everybody cutting knows what to
say, went 2. Shots, but he built that one
where that that was straight out of the trunk rap where that's
how I was raised to seeing how they came up.
But I was also raised in the N.W.A area with the ice cubes
and the Eazy's. And you know, you watched the
movie where Eazy wasn't even a rapper.
He was just a doughboy the Ice Cube wrote lyrics for and Dre
taught how to rap. Like how dope was that for him
to still, he'd been with the top rappers and then he got bone.
And then you know, they came from Cleveland.
Like it's all geographic, right? You're gonna have some East
Coast casts that are gonna watch this, be like those dudes don't
know what they're talking about because there was raised on the
East Coast. But I was, I was always a biggie
fan. Even through the East Coast,
West Coast battle. I was, I sided with POC, but I
was still a Biggie fan, You know what I mean?
I, I feel like, 'cause we came from Hawaii, so we were more
like, we just like, I don't know, I just like the music.
Oh, you West Coast. We've.
I know. We West Coast, but I.
Remember going to Hawaii, they had such a huge East Coast
influence too. When I go out there, like Wu
Tang was huge in Hawaii like, but that was like, because
that's what you guys were raised with.
Like when I was in Hawaii was living there.
We kind of brought the Bay aspect to kind of over there.
Like man, I know you guys are doing the East Coast stuff.
We want to listen to the Bay over here too, where that's the
beauty of it, right? You have LA rap, you have
regional rap West Coast, you have down South with Ludacris
and everything. You have the straight, you know,
Bun B and UGK. But that's the beauty of music
where it's bringing us together where it's dope to kind of see
Kendrick and kid from Compton being on the halftime show that
you would only think Adele and those top pop artists would
have. And that's why it was a win for
me to be like, damn, that was kind of dope that a kid from CPT
was on there doing what he did. It meant.
And it had this song that Not Like Us is going to go down as
one of the top song. And it sucks that it's a diss
record because I see the aspect of that too.
But it was cleverly done in the art of hip hop, in the art of
beef wrap. It was dope.
Before we get out of here, yeah, who are your top five rappers of
all? Time don't put me on the spot
now for it. Like my top five consists of
like what I just said, it's ice cube, it's Tupac, it's 40 and
short. And then I have Biggie in there.
So he's he's 5. But I have my four West Coast
dudes and but I was always I was raised on hip.
I like tribe called quest and I so I can't really hate on the
East Coast. You know who the big it was,
guys? I always listen to from way back
in the Brother Lynchung. Oh yeah.
Rupert Minnow, right? Who are your top five rappers
all the time? I can't even think of Fiverr and
all my fucking like. Top 2 is probably PAC and M
yeah. I'm not really even a big Eminem
fan, you know what I mean? Like, but I see what Eminem's
impact was like once he got with Dre and them.
That's when I kind of, oh, OK, I fuck with him.
But like when Em was like straight Detroit battle rapper,
I wasn't. That wasn't like my thing.
But like when you put Tupac and, you know, when you're in the
gym, you throw some Eminem and throw some Tupac.
Like it's all different. Yeah.
What about you, Riley? Who's your top five?
We can, but. You can always say like, that's
why I say we all grew up on on POC Biggie.
I like brother Lynch hung. I always listen to brother Lynch
Hung. He was.
That was dark rap. Like it was dark.
Fuck. Who else is there?
Who'd you go watch at Drake's right now?
Like just off your list? Like who would you Drake?
Like, like $0.50 is definitely up there too.
And for me, yeah, 50 Cent, $0.50's dope.
Drake's dope to me. Like, so who's your top five,
Justin? Brought our last lovers and
friends $0.50. 50 killed. No, that's.
What I said lovers like bro, lovers and friends.
That's like the dream lineup. I thought 100% yeah.
Do you not think the first one was fake because there was so
much? Talent, they people do that like
there's. I was in though, I was so bummed
they cancelled it last year and I've not heard anything about.
Oh no, but the remember the first one because you went to
the. First one, first and 2nd.
Yeah, first and 2nd. So I went to the first one too,
but the lineup was so heavy. I was like, there's no way that.
Everybody thought it. Was.
But then when you get there, you see the three sticks like I
can't even see everybody. Do you think this is fake?
And I was like, fuck, it seems fake.
There's way too much talent on here.
But you look at you look at the lineup though, too, there was so
much acts that are not not in high demand, but it was like,
that's people we grew up on. But that's why it was like
they're they're available for those type of shows.
And I loved it because they all only got like 10-15 minutes and
they just played their bangers. Bangers.
Yeah. Back-to-back to bass.
Lovers are. Friendly Fucking yes Fucking.
Justin top five. Top five working.
Give me Drake, one Kanye. 2 Hold on, there's now it makes one.
Now this makes sense. Kanye 2.
Kanye's Kanye's cool. Wait, Lil Wayne, old Kanye or
new Kanye? Old Kanye.
Could not new Kanye? Lil.
Wayne #3. Wow.
Jay-Z #4. Jay-Z. 50 set #5.
Cool, so now that we had this whole thing and you picked
Drake, this makes sense why you would think it's so trash 'cause
you're so hurt about what it did.
I don't care about that at. All.
I I would have loved good. I just like good music.
I just there are songs from Kendrick I would have loved to
heard, like yeah, swimming pool like I.
Didn't know that song. Like there's so many songs from
it that I would have wanted to heard.
Like there are verses from him that are like crazy verses.
But I I like I gotta say this too, like so shout out Gino and
Frannie. You know, they do a lot of stuff
with Drake. So those are good friends of
mine. You know, he's the resident DJ
at Dre's. So when this beef kind of
happened, it's kind of awkward, right?
Because you know, they're always with Drake when he comes to
Spearman Rhino when whenever he comes to Vegas, Drake's always
around with with with my boy. So when this Kendrick thing
happens, it kind of puts you in a position where it's like,
damn, I fuck with Drake. But this Kendrick thing is kind
of taking my mind if it's also everyone has their opinion, but
they actually kick it with Drake.
So I can see where their stance on it was like, you know, if it
was my boy and somebody was talking shit about Bill, like,
hold on, man, you know what I mean?
So I'd be kind of be more defensive because I personally
know B. So she don't drink it all.
Though I called it, I don't give a fuck.
I call it how it is. Sound boy.
Yeah, that's it. See, that's what it goes down
to. Ladies and gentlemen.
Drake's just got the best music. I mean like.
It No, he does he's. Proven here he's he's got the
most things you have to hear bro, he's crazy.
It's crazy how like it is crazy how much fucking bangers he can
just put on there. When you're in the club, when
they do play his shit, everybody.
Fucking absolutely. 15 years. Absolutely, guys.
Number one, we'll leave you with.
Yeah, at the At the end of the day, everybody is entitled to
their opinion. Me and Cisco, we like the
performance. Justin and Raleigh, they did not
like it, so their opinion is wrong.
It's OK, You can have it. Might be wrong, but you can have
it. And you get the final say when
you can fight, so you know. Yeah.
And we're like, oh. Yeah, all right, we're still
friends to episode one O 4. See you guys next time come.
On yes. Perfect.
Hell yeah. Boys, we're still friends.
We're still friends. We're still friends.
Still. Friends, still friends.