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Hello and welcome to the program
you'll forewarning in this 

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episode we're talking about 
whistleblower backlash, that's 

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correct. 
Whistleblower backlash. 

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It looks like some of the people
have come out in support of 

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David grush. 
The most recent UFO, 

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whistleblower may be 
experiencing some backlash of 

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their own, some strange things 
under foot. 

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And I want to take a look at a 
couple of these guys, just to 

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kind of get their names out 
there in the discussion because 

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I Find the whole thing very 
strange and somewhat disturbing.

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Honestly. 
Now this first tweet comes from 

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Ed Randall at tier and Eliezer. 
I'll put all these Links at the 

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buy me, a coffee website and you
can get there for my Twitter 

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account. 
Also, it says hashtag UFO, 

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Twitter, breaking news Carl 
Nell, who who came to prominence

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recently by speaking out in 
support of UFO. 

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Whistleblower David gresh has 
resigned from his position. 

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As modernization advisor to Vice
Chief of Staff of the army, the 

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former Defense Contractor 
executive and director, then it 

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goes on. 
Wow. 

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That's that's bizarre. 
Now this guy he's a real dude. 

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I mean it's not just some cut 
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I found a article he's mentioned
in from April 15th 2009. 

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It's army.mil. 
So I guess this is an army side.

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It says citizen soldiers. 
Mobilized for deployment by 

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Melanie SKC. 
This is dated April 15. 2009 

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looks like a picture of this 
fellow cute. 

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Little guys hanging on to, it 
must be his wife and it looks 

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like they're deploying. 
It says Fort Meade, Maryland, 

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Maryland. 
Senator Benjamin Cardin, thank 

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more than 100 soldiers talks 
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Of course I get ready to take 
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gathered for the mobilization 
ceremony for For company 3 23rd.

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Military Intelligence Battalion 
at the Fort Meade Pavilion. 

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This guy's definitely got 
intelligence background, the 

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event. 
Also, featured remarks from 

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representative, see a Dutch 
represent Burger Military 

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Intelligence. 
Ready to Commander Brigadier 

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General Lee's Leslie Purser. 
And 320 3rd, Battalion Commander

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Lieutenant Colonel Karl. 
Nell has a guy sounds like kind 

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of a big deal. 
Real military intelligence, 

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right? 
Readiness Commander, Brigadier 

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General Leslie Purser. 
And 320 3rd, Battalion Commander

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Lieutenant Colonel nail. 
So he's got a few guys under his

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command, the unit, which falls 
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Readiness command on Fort 
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Virginia and 66 Military 
Intelligence Brigade located in 

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Wiesbaden Germany headed to 
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following Ceremony. 
So it's got a picture of the 

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guy. 
He's a real person. 

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He has a real tranq and now it 
sounds like he's resigned his 

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position and this this first 
choice from 2009. 

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So this is a career guy you 
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done these, his put his name on 
this thing with this crash. 

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I don't know. 
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most intricate UFO limited to 
hang out I've ever seen or 

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something really weird is going 
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Now, I'm going to look into this
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Just a little bit further here 
and we'll get some more context 

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before we go on to the next 
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So I want to take a look at this
article here in which this 

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kernel nail has mentioned at 
this one comes to us from above 

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the law.com, and he's in a bunch
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It starts off, you know, with 
the whole thing about grub, says

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serious fed unafraid of legal, 
Jeopardy, and claim of recovered

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alien craft government UFO. 
Cover-up, this is by Jonathan 

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wolf in a recent interview with 
the debrief creche Claimed, a 

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secretive government program has
recovered material of exotic 

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origin. 
He said scientific analysis 

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demonstrated that the material 
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intelligence, whether 
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Origin. 
That's a quote, it says that 

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material includes intact and 
partially intact Vehicles. 

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Gresh added grush. 
This, no Kook. 

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He is a decorated veteran. 
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work. 
In April, grush had a celebrated

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14-year career and Us 
intelligence after he came 

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forward, several of gresh, his 
former colleagues backed him up.

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For instance, retired army, 
colonel Karl enel who served 

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with crush on the UAP task force
called gresh Beyond reproach. 

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And noted that his story 
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terrestrial arms race occurring,
Subrosa over the past 80 years, 

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focused on reverse engineering 
Technologies of Unknown Origin 

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is Fundamentally correct. 
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realization that? 
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technologies have Unknown 
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Derived from non-human 
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Now this is army. 
Colonel Carly tell retired and 

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we just saw that on that tweet 
that he's reportedly resigned 

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his job working as an army 
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So sounds like maybe he's gotten
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He's got this job as a 
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Probably getting paid. 
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He comes out. 
He makes this statement about 

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garage saying that he's a Beyond
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He says, quote concerning The 
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race occurring. 
Subrosa trust your arms race 

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over the past 80 years focused 
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Technologies of Unknown Origin 
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the indisputable realization 
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technologies have Unknown Origin
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intelligence. 
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underestimate that statement 
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He's saying that we're in an 
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is based on recovered Alien 
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That's what he's saying. 
It's a pretty big deal and he's 

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saying that grush is beyond 
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And then, right after that, 
guess what? 

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You're not a government 
contract, your anymore. 

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Now, is that a backlash? 
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something guy got something else
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I don't know. 
But I think it's worth looking 

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at now. 
We're going to take a look at 

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the other whistleblower that 
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today and this is some really 
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So the next support Order of 
Dave, aggression, I want to look

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at is Jonathan gray and he's 
brought up in this article from 

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Earth. 
Sky dot-org. 

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I'll just read it. 
I'll just read the part these 

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mentioned and it says gresh has 
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Also the new brief and the 
guardian reported Jonathan gray 

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apparently supports the claims 
being made by grash, gray is a 

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generational officer of the 
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Community with top secret 
clearance, Who currently works 

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for the National Air and Space 
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I see he was quoted by the 
debrief is saying, the nonhuman 

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intelligence phenomena is real. 
We are not alone. 

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Retrievals of this kind are not 
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This is a global phenomenon and 
yet a global solution continues 

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to elude us. 
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Now a couple things to notice, 
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generational officer of the 
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It's this is exactly what I'm 
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When I'm always griping about 
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It is this group of people, it's
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that's grown up around us. 
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all these bureaucracies that 
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what 1913 or whatever it was and
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You can't even get these people 
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level. 
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constantly. 
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that monster of a bureaucracy, 
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evolved this inner this 
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have been there for not decades 
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it could be that. 
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is has become so in-your-face 
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civil war between these actors 
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this generational bureaucracy. 
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But this is kind of a big deal. 
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Gray, like I said, he says the 
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We are not alone. 

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Retrievals of this kind are not 
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This is a global phenomenon and 
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to elude us. 
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Some of these guys are on The 
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the picture that if the Soviets 
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get this or some you know North 
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The UFO on her, somehow able to 
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could literally destroy the 
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I don't know. 
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here and take a look at a tweet 
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friend, Mick Wes. 
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debugger friend from Twitter, 
Mick West has been really busy, 

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trying to put this whole thing 
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whistleblower case and he has 
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trying to see what's up with 
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Jonathan gray guy and this is 
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I got to give him credit. 
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Dayton Daily News.com it says in
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See says it has no record of 
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Alias now and articles. 
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about an alias and I don't like 
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and these articles to you know, 
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this articles by Thomas looks 
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said gray was identified with 
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agency. 
How sketchy is that a 

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spokeswoman for the National Air
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in. 
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Wright-Patterson Air Force Base 
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employee who was who has adopted
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The person who was recently 
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outlining the claims of an Air 
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Who said, the federal government
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origin, though? 
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gray under the name. 
The piece says, is used in his 

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job at Naas. 
I see a nsic Representatives has

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a center has no record evidence 
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professional identity bottom 
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Don't know who Jonathan gray is 
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See spokesman said, spokeswoman 
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Daily News Monday, we have no 
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Naas. 
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debrief dot. 
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Charles assertions from David, 
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veteran, who worked for the 
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Gresh said that in his time, 
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anomaly research office, he was 
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crash retrieval program, which 
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Then it goes on here. 
It says gray is also quoted in 

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the piece as saying the nonhuman
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We are not alone. 
It's challenging to assess Grace

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claims without knowing who he 
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Where he Works or to, which 
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He's referring, March told the 
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What I can confirm is in Asics 
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characterization of airspace 
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enable full spectrum, 
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Weapons Systems at positions and
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policy. 
Yeah, blah blah, blah. 

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March added with regard to the 
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or you APS in Asics supports the
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office by providing upon request
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technical analysis for security 
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I can't get into the specifics 
of that analysis or our 

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findings. 
We have confirmed that a person 

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with the identity of Jonathan 
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Whether they acknowledge you're 
not Blumenthal said in response 

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to questions from this news 
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That's all I can say. 
So, there you go. 

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You got this article where The 
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no, we don't have anybody there 
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that name, go away. 
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the article that just blew this 
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The co-author Blumenthal says, 
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confirmation that personal work 
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You know, he's just says we have
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I see whether they acknowledge 
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he says, that's all I can say. 
That's not good enough if you're

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going to come out with this kind
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mind-blowing Revelations about 
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somebody in your article as an 
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intelligence agency and you put 
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article. 
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Check you and says well that 

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person doesn't even exist and 
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do exist and that's all I can 
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Now we've got a problem. 
Now you've thrown red meat to 

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make West and all the other 
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Now does this guy exists in the 
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cover it up. 
Possibly, I mean, look, what 

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happened to Lily Elizondo. 
First, I told us, you know, this

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guy doesn't work here. 
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it, The point where I guess, 
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they had to admit that. 
Yeah, he did work, you know, for

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the dod and this capacitor 
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him under the bus. 
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shuffling around the office are 
investigating UFO as long as any

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spare time. 
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Jonathan great person. 
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what Jonathan Grace actual name 
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When you know, they're 
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could be Joe, Blow identifying 
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So that is a problem for this 
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It could also be that this is 
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even just supporting 
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of his safety and not going to 
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pseudonym. 
And now when the story breaks he

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finds that he has to be he finds
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He's even more danger. 
There's even more backlash. 

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Almost like he's quit his job. 
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military contractor so we don't 
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So now we've gone beyond just 
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broke it into any says she's 
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by what he believes is a private
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Doesn't say who they're working 
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We gone beyond the harassment 
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whistleblower. 
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were. 
We're seeing backlash toward key

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figures, that happened to 
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Let that whistle blower and 
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What he's saying about these 
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things being back, engineered. 
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Just imagine that you were alive
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And we know how we now have the 
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Beeping door from one government
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military contractors, imagine 
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If these guys would happen to 
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to be a whole ship? 
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metallurgical knowledge that 
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That would create a 10 enormous 
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Think I can be monetized. 
Think of the motive that there 

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would be there for them to keep 
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Maybe some of these guys like 
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they see that And they're upset 
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on it or because they think it's
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money does funny things to 
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But we're starting to see some 
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The nail guy. 
I, I find him much more 

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convincing. 
This Jonathan gray guy. 

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You can't put a picture with the
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on this. 
But for right now, there is a 

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strong case that not only has 
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This whistleblower, but there's 
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whistleblowers who support him. 
Until next time, this is UFO 

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warning over now, This 
whistleblower, but there's 

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backlash against the 
whistleblowers who support him. 

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Until next time, this is UFO 
warning over now,

