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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode we're talking 
about the 1992 Long Island UFO 

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crash. 
That's correct, the 1992 Long 

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Island UFO crash. 
This first article I found is 

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from UFO digest.com. 
Title says he watched yet said 

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nothing. 
The UFO Crash of 1992 written by

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Chris Hawley published June 
19th, 2010 This is Chris Hawley,

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she's done a lot of good work. 
This starts off as says in 1992,

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the newspapers on Long Island, 
New York reported the suspected 

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UFO crash on November 24th in 
South Haven Park, located in 

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Suffolk County. 
You can find reports on this 

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event with an easy Google 
search. 

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I remember the event as I lived 
in Suffolk County New York at 

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the time and recall all the talk
and newspaper reports around 

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this event. 
It seemed to be the main topic 

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of conversation for a short time
but soon lost its interest as 

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the holidays were just starting 
and the UFO story seemed to lose

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its headlines to Santa and the 
malls. 

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Years passed and interest in 
this crash got lost when the 

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topic quickly seemed to vanish 
from the public's eye. 

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You know, that's the thing, you 
go back 3035 years, pre 

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Internet, or at least pre modern
Internet, things were different.

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You didn't have this very quick 
change. 

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Exchange information they say. 
During the late 1990s, she says,

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I joined a weekly group of women
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malls early in the morning for 
exercise. 

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It was a trend at the time and 
very popular during the long, 

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cold winter months. 
One of the women I walked with I

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knew from school. 
She and I would walk and talk 

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daily, catching up on our lives.
She told me about her new love 

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relationship with a man who 
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She talked lovingly about this 
man but secretly I was a bit 

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concerned that some of the 
things she told me about her new

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found love. 
This man lived in an old cabin 

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in a very rustic rural area. 
He made very little money and 

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was fixed on remaining that way.
His theory of living was to 

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survive off the land and not to 
get caught up with the rat race 

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of society. 
I found her stories about this 

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man a bit disturbing but could 
see she was very taken with him 

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so I just listened and smiled 
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When I met my friend's new love,
he matched what I had 

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anticipated. 
He was a tall man who had long 

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dark hair to his waist worn in a
ponytail, old worn jeans and a 

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torn washed out flannel shirt. 
He wore worn out boots and drove

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a beaten up orange pickup truck 
that always seemed to contain 

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some kind of firewood 
overflowing from its bed. 

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During the early fall, my friend
and her new man hosted a dinner 

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party held in the man's 
extremely rustic cabin. 

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The cabin was very old 
dilapidated 3 room building that

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he was holding together with 
duct tape and hope. 

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Boy. 
It sounds like the guy is just 

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on the edge of being homeless 
there to me. 

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Two large wood burning stoves 
heated it with his water supply 

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borrowed by way of hoses from 
his neighbor's barn. 

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I do not recall if he had 
electric or not as the party was

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lit by candles. 
I do know he heated water on his

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stoves to wash dishes and take a
bath every few days. 

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It did have a working bathroom, 
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He lived off the land, which 
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local farmers crops, taking his 
vegetables and fruits from their

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farms at night by way of his 
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I think that's called stealing. 
He also haunted in restricted 

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areas, fished often, and always 
killed the ducks in your area 

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for his seasonal dinner parties.
Boy, does not sound like a very 

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tasty dinner party to me at all.
He would brag openly at how 

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little he actually purchased to 
live or entertain. 

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I found him to be cheap and a 
thief. 

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Our dinner party consisted of 
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freshly killed ducks. 
The old house was blazing with 

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candles. 
He used his grandmother's China 

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to set a handmade huge table in 
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stove. 
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interestingly enjoyable night. 
The man's cabin was located near

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South Haven Park. 
At the end of the evening, we 

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were sipping coffee and sharing 
the homemade fruit pies when the

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subject came up about the UFO 
crash in the nearby park years 

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before in 1992. 
I'm not sure if this is a cabin 

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or a shack. 
Very strange as a man who lived 

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in the cabin devoured the 
homemade apple pie. 

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He interrupted the conversation 
a mouthful and grunted something

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about seeing it. 
One of the guests heard what he 

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had said and stopped the 
conversation and asked him what 

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he had seen. 
I saw that crash, he said, as if

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it were an offhanded comment 
about the weather. 

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At once the people around the 
table became silent and turned 

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towards him and asked. 
What do you mean you saw the UFO

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crash in South Haven? 
He kept chewing while his 

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girlfriend picked up the subject
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Oh, I guess we never mentioned 
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He was out gathering wood that 
night in the park and saw the 

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whole thing. 
As you can imagine, every set of

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eyes in the room were now 
focused squarely on the pie 

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eating cabin dweller. 
Finally he looked up from his 

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pie plate to a room full of 
people waiting for him to 

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explain more. 
He looked around the table 

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knowing he had to confess now as
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He sat back in his chair and 
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OK, I will tell you, but you 
cannot talk about this as I will

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deny it. 
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take wood out of the park, but 
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laying there rotting. 
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I can get into the park from the
back roads easily, so I go in 

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and gather up what's laying 
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Knowing this guy's way of life, 
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he did this. 
In fact, we knew that he most 

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likely haunted it there at night
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I think it was a favorite area 
for him to collect meat for his 

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winter house parties. 
He put down his fork, looked at 

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us all, and nonchalantly, as if 
telling us about a walk in the 

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woods, told us his story. 
I was out for a wood hall in the

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park. 
It was early around 7:00 at 

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night I think. 
I parked my truck on a back Rd. 

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like I always do and was getting
out my axe and basket to carry 

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the wood back to my truck. 
I first heard it like a huge 

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rushing air sound with a high 
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I looked around and didn't see 
anything at first. 

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It was getting louder. 
My senses just made me look 

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toward the noise and I saw it 
coming in and out of the night 

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sky down toward the woods. 
At first it looked like a big 

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fireball. 
As it got closer it changed 

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direction and dipped lower in 
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It was a huge dark colored UFO 
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It was partly on fire across the
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It was really moving fast. 
Just imagine this guy out there 

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cutting wood trespassing in the 
park after dark and he sees his 

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UFO come crash landing. 
Within seconds I heard it hit 

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the ground. 
It sounded like a big splat 

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rather than an explosion. 
I just stood there a minute, 

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kind of shocked and kind of 
frozen in fear. 

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I thought I heard some kind of 
movement coming from the park 

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from the direction of where this
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I was really terrified as I 
didn't have any hunting gear and

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no one knew where I was. 
I threw my gear in the truck and

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tried to start my truck. 
The thing wouldn't turn over at 

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first. 
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run for it back to the main road
in my cabin. 

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I tried one last time to turn 
over my truck and she kicked in.

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I backed down that dirt Rd. in 
record speed and got the heck 

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out of there. 
I think I was just crazy scared 

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and can't swear to it, but I 
thought I heard yelling or 

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screaming coming from the crash 
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I knew I was going to be in 
trouble if I was caught in there

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at night so I took off. 
When I hit the main road I saw 

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all the red lights coming toward
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I knew I had to get home and 
lock myself in. 

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That's what I did. 
I drove home and locked up the 

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cabin the best I could. 
I stayed awake all night with my

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shotgun, just in case whatever 
was hollering in that woods 

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found its way to my place. 
We all looked at this man in 

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stunned silence. 
Finally, one of the other guests

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began to question him. 
Did you ever tell the police 

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what you saw? 
Does anyone from the government 

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know you saw this thing crash? 
Were you able to get back into 

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the woods to see what was going 
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The answer to all of the 
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He was so afraid of being caught
over his sticky finger habits 

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and illegal behaviors that he 
never reported the sighting to 

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anyone other than my lady friend
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He told us that he watched the 
next few hours as trucks, jeeps 

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and helicopters flooded the 
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He watched as the emergency 
vehicles entered South Haven 

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Park. 
He told us that flatbed trucks 

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that looked to be military would
drive in empty and came back 

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down the same Rd. with a load on
it that was covered in green 

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canvas. 
He said the next day he tried to

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walk his old hound down the road
close to where all this activity

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was going on, only to be told to
go home and to stay there until 

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further notice by men in what 
appeared to be orange hazard 

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suits. 
He did not know if the phones 

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were knocked out as he did not 
have one at the time, but did 

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say his truck would not start 
easily for days after the 

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incident. 
Finally after about a week 

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passed, the people, trucks and 
helicopters were gone and the 

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parks seemed to stand bare and 
silent. 

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I can't explain it, but the part
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After that happened. 
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took everything, every twig and 
every log and every leaf that 

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was lying around in the woods. 
It was as if the whole place had

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been swept and a false fake 
wooded area was left behind. 

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I was still frightened of the 
place and since they took all 

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the wood out of there, there was
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Funny, I haven't been back there
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Well, if this is true, this 
sounds like it could be an 

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actual craft recovery and clean 
up done in a very practice, very

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quick fashion. 
It says that the conversation 

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then turned toward others who 
lived in an area who remembered 

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losing phone service, electric 
service, and having car problems

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that week. 
Everyone recalled seeing trucks 

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and helicopters around 
Thanksgiving Weekend was a day 

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or so after this event, followed
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Interest in this event seemed to
simply get lost due to the time 

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of year it occurred. 
I think about the strange man 

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living out in his cabin, 
unwilling to share his watching 

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this craft crash right in front 
of him. 

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I wonder how many other people 
have similar reasons that also 

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prevent them from reporting 
incredible encounters for rather

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simple human reasons. 
Over the years I have spoken to 

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many people who live or lived in
that area near that park who 

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also witnessed that craft fly 
over the town and bank a turn 

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into the park where it crashed. 
Many watched as a cleanup took 

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place and the craft removed. 
Yet for some reason, this 

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amazing event passed by us all 
rather easily. 

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I guess we are creatures of our 
own habits, traditions and 

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needs. 
A UFO crashing over the holiday 

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season when people are caught up
in hectic preparation for the 

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holiday Christmas traditions is 
the perfect time for something 

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like this to be kicked under the
carpet. 

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I will never forget the fact 
that this man's need for a 

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frugal lifestyle and his fear of
being caught doing shady things 

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was stronger than the fact he 
witnessed an incredible event. 

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He simply did not want to get 
involved. 

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I wonder what he will do if one 
summer night while stealing 

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Peaches from his neighbor's 
trees, he comes face to face 

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with whomever or whatever was 
flying one of those crafts. 

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No one would know what happened 
to him as he never tells anyone 

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when he slips off to Philly's 
basket with stolen fruit. 

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I haven't thought about this 
event in a very long time. 

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I wonder how many others clearly
watched as that craft crash that

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November night in 1992. 
I wonder how many people are 

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walking around with similar 
stories who remain silent in 

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order to protect their identity 
from those who expose those like

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them for personal gain. 
We need to find a way for those 

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who have seen things to be able 
to report them without the fear 

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of ridicule or abuse by the 
media for the purpose of a good 

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story. 
I think we are a really confused

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society who forever seem to 
insist on staying firmly planted

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in the dark ages when it comes 
to things unknown. 

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It is incredible we have come as
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technology as we basically are 
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comes to all things not yet 
understood. 

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Be careful out there. 
You never know what you may see 

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while stealing apples. 
That was written by Chris 

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Hawley. 
Pretty cool story actually, very

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well written. 
Hardly ever do you find stuff 

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that's written that well. 
This idea of this guy out there 

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stealing firewood out of the 
park and this UFO crashes over. 

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Really, really incredible stuff.
Now that story that we just went

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over was so skillfully written 
that you might hear that and 

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think, well, that's a good 
story, but how could that be 

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true? 
I'll tell you. 

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I did some looking around and 
I'll put these links over at 

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Kofi, but I found this post on 
Facebook. 

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It says the Shirley Drive in 
July 30th, 2022 and here's their

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version of it. 
On November 24th, 1992 around 

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7:00 PM something crash landed 
in South Haven Park and Shirley.

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Witnesses driving on Sunrise 
Highway said they saw a cylinder

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shaped object with lights pass 
overhead into the park. 

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The crash caused power outages 
throughout the area close by. 

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Oddly, none of the local fire 
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were allowed into the park. 
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personnel from the Brookhaven 
National Laboratory were allowed

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to go into the park. 
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a flatbed and taken out. 
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days. 
To this day, the public has 

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never been told what crashed 
into the park. 

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It has never been said there was
a plane crash or even possibly 

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part of a plane passing 
overhead. 

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It never was said if there was 
anyone hurt or killed in the 

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crash. 
Whatever fell from the sky on 

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that evening has never been 
disclosed to the general public.

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Why? 
Very interesting. 

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I haven't heard. 
I have not heard Louis Elizondo 

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or any of the other UFO mafia 
talking about this. 

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If I am not correct maybe 
someone could tell me. 

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There's a couple of replies. 
This fellow here says Keith 

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Klein. 
It's true. 

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I grew up next to the park. 
As kids we lived there. 

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FBI would not let us in our in 
on our bikes. 

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The park was closed for days. 
When it reopened we went to the 

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crash site and were turned away 
immediately. 

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The ground to this day has not 
grown new grass. 

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Wow, here's one, says Amato P 
Thomas. 

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I remember if it's totally true.
The park was closed down for a 

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few days. 
I remember not being allowed by 

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River Rd. 
The small train bridge was 

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closed off and we couldn't even 
go to it from the Expressway 

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because of all the activity. 
If I'm not mistaken, Brookhaven 

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National Lab Fire Department was
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That's what it sounds like. 
This guy John Mock I remember 

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too had all sorts of excuses why
the park was closed. 

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Don't they always? 
Nancy Berg Johnson says. 

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Absolutely true story. 
My husband and I were on Sunrise

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Highway heading home to Mastic 
Beach on Thanksgiving evening 

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1992 with our three children 
asleep in the back seat. 

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As we approached Yapak Ave. we 
were shocked and knew what we 

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were seeing. 
A UFO. 

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My husband pulled over and we 
watched it go lower over South 

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Haven Park tree line. 
We saw a bright crash explosion,

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but no fire or smoke, just a 
bright explosion, obvious impact

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in the park area. 
Afraid for our children, we 

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chose to go directly home. 
This was before the 7th precinct

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was built. 
We know what we saw and we were 

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shocked. 
All caps. 

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But we couldn't find any news on
this event. 

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Nothing. 
See how easy it was to cover 

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things up back then before the 
Internet? 

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Here's one, says Evelyn Diane. 
Yet my dad went with the local 

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fire department and they did not
let them in. 

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So all of this just covered up 
by this Brookhaven Lab. 

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I love a good mystery and would 
love to check out the site. 

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Christine Elizabeth, especially 
as I live right there. 

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Where in the park was it 
supposed to cry? 

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She asked. 
Heidi Rabiston. 

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John Klug, weren't you working 
at the lab with Brookhaven Fire 

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Department at the time? 
Man, just a bunch of cool stuff 

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here. 
That was Grumman testing all 

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those flying saucers. 
Yeah, maybe. 

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So now we heard that, I think. 
Excellent account. 

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They're reported by a 
researcher, the lady Chris 

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Hawley. 
And then we've looked over some 

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of the Facebook comments that 
were posted just a couple of 

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years ago talking about this 
crash that happened in November 

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1992. 
And then I found this article 

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with some, actually some pretty 
good pictures, journal-news.com 

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dot pH. 
I put the link to Kofi with the 

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rest of the stuff. 
The title says 1992 South Haven 

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Park, UFO crash was a living 
alien recovered. 

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And then it's got some pictures 
of the park. 

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It says 1 area of the park 
appears to have trees growing at

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an angle. 
Yeah, they certainly are. 

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It looks like something's 
happened there. 

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I don't know if this is a wind 
or what. 

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And then it must be where the 
Brookhaven labs at. 

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They've got some map pictures 
here too. 

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I didn't realize how much timber
was out in this place. 

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Really kind of remote, it says a
statement submitted to MUFON. 

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In 1992, a UFO crashed in South 
Haven Park and Shirley, Long 

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Island. 
Many witnessed the event as it 

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is near Sunrise Highway, a well 
travelled roadway. 

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The park was closed for three 
days. 

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Brookhaven National Labs was 
called in a large flatbed truck 

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brought something large back to 
the lab. 

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My brother who worked on the lab
at the time told me that they 

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had an alien alive on the lab 
property. 

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He told me this shortly before 
he died in 2006. 

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He told the same thing to my 
mother and to his family in real

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time at the time of it 
happening. 

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There are reports saying there 
is film footage of the event. 

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The spot of the crash is still 
obvious from the aerial view. 

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The trees were twisted and 
turned about. 

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Some of them are bent and it is 
reported that there is no 

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electromagnetic field there. 
In order to corroborate my 

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sighting information, Ioffer you
this report from the paranormal 

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investigative group Long Island 
Oddities. 

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I've also enclosed a picture of 
the twisted trees Strange South 

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Haven Park the crash. 
The most coherent information on

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South Haven was located in the 
Li Yufan press release on August

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the 3rd, 1998. 
The actual crash occurred at 

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7:00 PM on November 24th, 1992. 
A man was driving E on Sunrise 

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Highway heading toward William 
Floyd Park. 

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There was a patch of trees 
separating Sunrise from Montauk 

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Highway to the South of Sunrise.
He saw a large craft that he 

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described as tubular in shape 
with two large bright blue 

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lights on each end, with a 
bright white light in his center

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whose structure was composed of 
dull metal Gray texture. 

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He saw the object make a very 
tight right angle across the 

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highway and crashed into the 
woods of South Haven Park. 

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When it hit, the object emitted 
a dazzling white beam that was 

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said to turn night to day for a 
moment. 

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The man turned and came back on 
the other side of Sunrise to 

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backtrack and find the source of
the crash. 

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He saw helicopters near the exit
to William Floyd Parkway. 

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Neither the helicopters or the 
personnel that came to block off

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the westbound exit to William 
Floyd bore any markings or 

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Insignia, and the men were 
dressed in plain black. 

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Finally, he went West on 
Victory, which was closed off 

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later, and reached the second 
turn on Garrett Ave. 

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This street and its neighbors 
would soon report all manner of 

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electrical glitches, phone 
ringing with no one there, and 

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TV static. 
At this time, though our 

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witnesses could see a huge fire 
back in the woods. 

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At the time, someone also 
driving E on Sunrise saw an Oval

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shaped object fly over the town 
dump hill on a descending course

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30° to the horizon, which was 
leaving a green ionization trail

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as it passed. 
Could this have been part of its

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crisis trajectory? 
The Oval craft or one like it, 

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may have been scouting out the 
local area because there was an 

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incident reported over Islip 
Town, which were seen on the 

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Channel 12 News in March of 1992
at the Baked Hill Rd. exit of 

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the Long Island Expressway. 
Some researchers say even now 

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that there are areas of South 
Haven that have trees bent. 

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It's just as if almost torn out 
of the ground at some point in 

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their growth. 
On a scouting mission, we think 

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we found such a site. 
We also found good aerial shot 

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of the area that shows a large 
roundish area that has no trees 

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at all. 
Yeah, I'm looking at that in the

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map. 
And it's just like, oh, my 

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goodness. 
I mean, it's just like it's been

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plowed up. 
It's a huge, barren area. 

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And of course, this crash 
happened 30 years ago, over 30 

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years ago. 
It says. 

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UFO crash at South Haven Park, 
1992 Newspapers South Shore 

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Press Issue Volume 10 #7 date 
Tuesday, May 25th, 1993 A local 

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investigative group has been 
researching accounts of 

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unidentified objects on Long 
Island for the past five years, 

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released a report with photos 
and a videotape yesterday that 

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claims an alien spacecraft 
crashed into a remote area of 

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South Haven Park and Shirley 
just before Thanksgiving last 

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year. 
The incident happened just after

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7:00 PM on the night of November
24th, according to John Ford, 

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chairman of the Long Island UFO 
Network, who said that it has 

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taken his group 6 months to do a
thorough investigation. 

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It was just recently though that
this group was able to acquire 

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the video and the photos. 
We knew that something crashed 

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into the park that night and we 
have bit by bit set for it, been

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able to finally put the picture 
together. 

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Several motorists who were 
travelling along Sunrise Highway

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that night, according to Ford, 
contacted his organization and 

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described what they thought was 
a plane that was going down into

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the park. 
And many local residents whose 

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homes border South Haven report 
that they heard loud rumbling 

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sounds and saw strange lights. 
Eyewitness accounts have 

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confirmed that a fire was 
reported immediately after, 

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noted Ford. 
In addition, the roads around 

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the park were blocked off to 
travel by county and Park Police

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the next day and for a few days 
after the park was closed to the

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public. 
One local resident who lives 

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near the park said that for A5 
to six day period after the 

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incident, his house experienced 
numerous power surges and the 

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phone would ring strangely 
without anyone on the other end.

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I ride horses in the park, so 
I'm perfectly familiar with the 

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activities there, I said the 45 
year old man, who requested 

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anonymity because of the 
sensitive nature of his job. 

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They would fire me if they 
thought I believed in flying 

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saucers. 
For the next few days there were

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a lot of military helicopters 
going over the park and I 

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couldn't get in. 
Records show that South Haven 

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Park was closed between November
25th and 28th. 

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According to park officials, the
park was closed to the general 

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public that week because it was 
reserved for duck hunting. 

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Although some of the area fire 
departments were initially 

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called, they were turned back 
and the fire was handled by the 

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federally controlled Brookhaven 
National Laboratory Fire 

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Department, said Ford. 
Ford's group finally gained 

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admittance into the park a week 
later. 

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We found an area that was burned
out and some trees were bent 

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over, Ford recalled A section 
looked like it had been plowed 

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over by machinery. 
But two things were of 

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particular interest to Ford. 
We were getting higher than 

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normal radiation reading in the 
area, higher than regular 

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background radiation, and the 
fence line in that area, said 

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Ford, had no magnetic reading. 
Ford explained that metal fences

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maintain a magnetic charge from 
the earth. 

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Something had stripped away the 
magnetic charge of the fence. 

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Last week, Ford received what he
had been waiting and hoping for,

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a video film of the crash. 
I can't say where I got it from 

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because people who supplied the 
tape are afraid that the 

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government will go after them 
because of the poor quality of 

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the tape. 
Ford has been working with video

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specialists to try and enhance 
the quality of the picture and 

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to produce stills. 
The video, a copy of which was 

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given to South Shore Press, 
shows people examining a bright 

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reddish metal type object about 
four square feet that appears to

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be emitting a white cloudy gas 
and a hissing sound can be 

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00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,640
heard, a sight and sound that 
resembles dry ice that has been 

456
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,920
exposed to warmer temperatures. 
The next shot shows what appears

457
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,680
to be a person trying to lift up
a body near a tree, but the poor

458
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,640
quality of the film makes 
positive identification 

459
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,960
impossible. 
In a final scene, 3 uniformed 

460
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,040
men wearing dark jackets and 
rounded caps similar to federal 

461
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,440
SWAT teams are seen placing a 
large shiny spread similar to 

462
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,440
Mylar over something on the 
ground. 

463
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,440
Ford makes no apologies for the 
poor quality of the video. 

464
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,400
Things were happening fast and 
the guy who took The Who took 

465
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,280
the shots doesn't want to be too
obvious. 

466
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,160
And he confesses that it is hard
to get people to come forward 

467
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520
and admit what they've seen. 
One of the major problems in 

468
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,000
researching UFOs is that people 
are afraid of sounding like 

469
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,200
lunatics when describing 
strange, unexplained events. 

470
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280
But an even greater fear of 
notes notes of Ford is a 

471
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,680
government. 
You get involved with things 

472
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,440
that the government doesn't want
people to know, and they can 

473
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,440
make life pretty tough for you. 
What are Ford's conclusions 

474
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,680
about the South Haven event? 
We're still very actively 

475
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,600
investigating this event. 
We believe that an 

476
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,480
extraterrestrial craft with 
aliens crashed that night in the

477
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,520
park, and we're out to prove it.
Wow. 

478
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:41,480
John Ford, the 49 year old 
founder of the Long Island UFO 

479
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,080
Network, who in mid 1996 was 
charged with plotting to kill 

480
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720
local government officials 
because he believed they were 

481
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,440
covering up three crashed UFO 
saucer incidents on Long Island,

482
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,640
has been found to be delusional 
and has been sent to a New York 

483
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,680
State psychiatric center. 
Oh boy. 

484
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,240
If and when Ford is judged 
competent to stand trial, he 

485
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,680
faces the prospect of 25 to 75 
year jail term. 

486
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,960
Of course, this this is 1998. 
So what, 26 years? 

487
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,920
Edward Zabo, a Defense 
Department employee who obtained

488
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,480
the radium, is slated to be 
sentenced in early March. 

489
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,600
The evidence included a tape 
recording of Ford and associates

490
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,240
discussing their plan, which was
covertly recorded by a person 

491
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,840
who had been asked to 
participate, who instead gave 

492
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,800
the tape to law enforcement 
officials. 

493
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,120
Oh boy. 
Ford claimed that 1998 the US 

494
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:41,680
had forced down and recovered an
ET craft near Moorish Bay, Long 

495
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,160
Island, that in 1992 and alien 
craft had crashed in South Haven

496
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,960
Park, and that 1/3 had crashed 
later near the Pine Barrens 

497
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,520
area. 
Publicly accused local 

498
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,560
government officials are 
collaborating with federal 

499
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560
governments to cover up the 
incidents. 

500
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,920
In an article in November 1996 
issue of the MUFON UFO Journal, 

501
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Miss Elaine Douglas charged that
Ford was the first UFO 

502
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,120
investigator to be seriously 
persecuted by the authorities. 

503
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Douglass's Mufonts, the state 
director for the District of 

504
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,120
Columbia, and Co director of 
Operation Right to Know, the 

505
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,280
latter which periodically stages
public demonstrations, describes

506
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080
itself as the only UFO 
organization with guts. 

507
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,000
It is scheduled to March on the 
White House to end UFO secrecy 

508
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,840
for July 5th, 1999. 
In her MUFON article, Douglas 

509
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,400
announced the formation of the 
John Ford Defense Committee and 

510
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,880
sought contributions. 
Son eagerly awaits the reactions

511
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,480
of Douglas and MUFON to recent 
events. 

512
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Boy, well, it goes on down here 
and talks a little bit about 

513
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,400
some of his legal problems. 
This is quite a twisted deal 

514
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,760
here, I have to tell you. 
It says In 1997, a Suffolk 

515
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,960
County Court judge ordered that 
Ford be sent to an upstate New 

516
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,920
York mental hospital, where he 
remains today. 3 psychiatrists 

517
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,120
and a psychologist. 2 hired by 
District Attorney James M 

518
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,000
Catterson. 
Junior's office examined Ford, 

519
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,840
and all four concluded that he 
was not competent to stand 

520
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,360
trial. 
Robert H Burger, director of 

521
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,640
forensic psychology at Bellevue 
Hospital Center, said that while

522
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Ford seemed to understand his 
legal predicament, he thought 

523
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,560
the criminal case against him 
was in reality an intelligence 

524
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,120
operation being run by the CIA 
together with the Israeli 

525
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:27,320
intelligence agency Mossad. 
If it was, got to drag Israel 

526
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,520
into it, I guess. 
Responding to an article about 

527
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,080
himself and saucer smear, Ford 
wrote, My case is a frame up and

528
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,880
a smear tactic to destroy my UFO
organization and to neutralize 

529
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,640
my effectiveness. 
The main reason I'm sitting here

530
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,120
is due to the fact that I had 
information indicating the 1995 

531
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,560
E end forest fires have been 
deliberately set to cover up the

532
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,000
crash of a large disc near 
Suffolk Community Colleges South

533
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,040
of Riverhead, Long Island. 
The county was asked to set 

534
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,520
fires near the crash site to 
keep people out of the area, but

535
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,800
dirty politics being the case, 
the Republican leadership in an 

536
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,840
effort to gain control of Pine 
Barrens properties set forth far

537
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,120
South of Sunrise Highway and 
populated areas near the coveted

538
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,920
land. 
I was able to document some of 

539
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,560
this. 
While doing so, I was targeted 

540
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760
for elimination by the 
politicians. 

541
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,480
I had several attempts of my 
life failed due to the 

542
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,120
intervention of is right 
intelligence, which protected me

543
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,440
for some 3 1/2 months. 
Yeah, this thing's really not 

544
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,120
making sense. 
Well, it goes on and talks a 

545
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,520
little bit about more about 
Brookhaven National Laboratory, 

546
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,880
TWA 800 flight and JFK Junior's 
crash. 

547
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,520
Man, a lot of bad stuff there. 
I don't know what to make of 

548
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
this. 
I really don't. 

549
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,000
I think what we could have is a 
case where we have an actual 

550
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,360
authentic UFO crash and then we 
kind of have these people on the

551
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,840
periphery moving in the the 
comments on Facebook. 

552
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,320
I can pretty much believe those 
because people are just talking 

553
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
about their experiences and not 
really kind of getting into any 

554
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,320
kind of of attention seeking 
behavior with this Ford fellow. 

555
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,600
I don't know what to make, you 
know, 25 years ago. 

556
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,760
So I've looked around all over 
the Internet. 

557
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,880
I cannot find any information on
this John Ford, if he's still 

558
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,000
getting psychiatry treatment or 
if you know how this whole thing

559
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,600
played out in the courts. 
It looks here like he was locked

560
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,120
up back what, 1998, nineteen, 
9925 years ago? 

561
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Sounds like he was in like these
late 40s then. 

562
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,960
So he would be in his 70s now, 
maybe mid 70s, Don't know. 

563
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,960
Some of these cases are so out 
there and they're so far outside

564
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,880
the norm that when someone comes
along, they talk about 

565
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,800
abductions or sightings or 
whatever. 

566
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,360
It's easy to label that person 
as mentally impaired. 

567
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,360
They could be, but then again, 
maybe they're just being honest.

568
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,880
It's strange how this guy gets 
into all this investigative 

569
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:57,520
stuff and then we find out that 
suddenly he finds himself in the

570
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,080
eye of the storm here. 
He seems like a normal enough 

571
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040
guy from the interview, but then
we're told that he has been 

572
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,240
institutionalized, basically 
found waiting to get back into 

573
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400
his right mind. 
I suppose so they can they can 

574
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,360
put him through the wringer in 
the in the legal system. 

575
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,360
It's almost like it's a 
cautionary tale about getting 

576
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,400
too close to the flame. 
It's one thing to witness these 

577
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,960
things. 
It's one thing to talk about 

578
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,400
him. 
It's one thing to investigate 

579
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,920
him from the comfort of your own
home, but it almost seems like 

580
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,120
sometimes, and I don't know if 
it's just the people doing the 

581
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,280
investigating or if it's just 
the nature of the beast, it 

582
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,720
seems like sometimes people get 
a little too close. 

583
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Maybe they're getting a little 
too close to the truth. 

584
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,720
And I'm not sure if the chaos 
and the breakdown is all on them

585
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,080
or if it's something that just 
happens when they get too close 

586
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,920
to this stuff. 
Are they being persecuted by 

587
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,880
some hidden hand to the point of
mental exhaustion and mental 

588
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,920
collapse? 
I just don't know. 

589
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Until next time, this is UFO 
warning over and out.

