1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,600 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,520 In this episode we're talking about disappeared without a 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,720 trace. That's correct, disappeared 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,079 without a trace. We're looking at 3 cases where 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,720 people disappeared and there's reason to believe there was some 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,480 kind of UFO alien abduction. This is some weird stuff. 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,640 If you into this at all, how I suggest David Politis, I think 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,560 he's kind of the expert on this. I watch a lot of his stuff. 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,320 He's covered a lot of these cases, probably hundreds of 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,520 cases. I know he's written several 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,160 books and done documentaries and stuff and they just keep coming 12 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:41,560 up with more questions and answers. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,800 Some of these cases are really disturbing and you have to 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,960 wonder what what on earth is going on here? 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,640 And we look at all the different possibilities. 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,560 Could it be that some of these people are actually being 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,360 abducted through UFO type alien abductions? 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,840 I found this article over at medium.com written by Christina 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,160 Gomez. I think she's got some kind of 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,240 a, some kind of a website there. It says the Vanished. 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Exploring the eerie connection between UFOs and missing person 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,600 cases. This is dated May 31st, 2024 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,440 begins by saying. Throughout history, there have 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,640 been numerous cases of individuals who have disappeared 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,440 without a trace, leaving behind a trail of unanswered questions 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,320 and speculation. Well, many of these cases can be 27 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:36,040 attributed to various factors, such as foul play, accidents, or 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,840 voluntary disappearances. There is a subset of cases that 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,720 have been linked to the mysterious rule of UFOs and 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,520 alleged alien abductions. One such case is that if Todd 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,400 sees a resident of Pennsylvania who set out on a deer spotting 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:58,080 expedition on August 2nd, 2002, when he failed to return home, a 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,040 massive search operation was launched involving over 200 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,840 volunteers, firefighters and police officers. 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,080 C's four Wheeler was discovered 2 miles from his home, but 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,000 surprisingly, search dogs were unable to detect his scent from 37 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,440 the vehicle. Two days later, his body was 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,720 found in a dense brush area wearing only underwear with no 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,880 external injuries and an expression with its sheer shock. 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,920 The FBI quickly took over the investigation and CS wife was 41 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:33,960 not allowed to see the body for six to eight weeks. 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,560 In the vicinity where Todd was found, people witnessed a UFO 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,160 sighting. That's some scary stuff. 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,240 There are a lot of different things. 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,680 It sounds like this poor fellow's body was moved. 46 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:46,360 Says he was just wearing his underwear. 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,360 You have to ask what in the world's going on there. 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Talks about his face having this sheer look of shock on it. 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Now, if you're like me and you're old enough to have seen a 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,280 few people after they passed away before the before they, you 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,640 know, got to the Funeral Home, that's not something you really 52 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:05,600 want to see. I mean, hopefully the person is 53 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,480 going to have a look, a piece on their face where they just 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,360 passed away. The idea that somebody has this, 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,360 has this shocked look on their face and that's the last emotion 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,960 that they experienced before they died, and that's really 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,200 unsettling. These are the kind of things 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,080 that never really seem to get addressed in a lot of these 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,120 cases. Goes on down and says another 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 intriguing case and we'll come back and look at these cases 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,080 individually. Another intriguing case is that 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Frederick Valentich. Frederick Valentich, a 20 year 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,640 old Australian pilot who vanished during a training 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,360 flight over the Bass Strait on October 21st, 1978. 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,280 During the flight, Valentich reported an unidentified craft 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,160 following him and described it as having four bright lights and 67 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,800 a shiny metal service metal surface. 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,720 His final transmission was it's not an aircraft followed by 17 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,040 seconds of metallic scraping sounds. 70 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,520 Despite an extensive search, neither Valentich nor his 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,600 aircraft were ever found. The Australian Department of 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Transports investigation found no evidence of any aircraft in 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,360 the area at the time of the incident. 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Yeah, poor fellows just flying along there. 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,600 It's almost like his plane was scooped up by this thing. 76 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Just a young guy. That's a pretty famous case 77 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,519 actually. It says the Ken Ross incident 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,040 involving US Air Force pilots Felix Mankla and Robert Wilson 79 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,600 is another case that was captured that has captured the 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,920 attention of UFO enthusiast. On November 23rd, 1953, the 2 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 pilots were dispatched to investigate an unidentified 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,720 target near the Michigan border. As their F89C Scorpion 83 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,640 interceptor closed in on the target, Both the UFO and the 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,520 interceptor disappeared from radar. 85 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,040 No debris or wreckage was ever found and the US Air Force's 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,640 explanation for the disappearance was deemed 87 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,640 inconclusive. Another very disturbing 88 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,080 disappearance. We've talked about that in the 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,360 podcast. This one here says the story of 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,640 Granger Taylor, a man from Duncan, BC, adds another layer 91 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,600 to the UFO missing persons connection. 92 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:12,680 Taylor, who claimed to have a life changing encounter with 93 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:18,400 extraterrestrial beings in 1975, became obsessed with the idea of 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,280 building his own spacecraft called the Galaxy. 95 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,080 On November 29th, 1980, he left a note for his parents stating 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,360 that he was going on a 42 month interstellar voyage aboard an 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,640 alien spacecraft. Taylor never returned and no 98 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,040 trace of him has ever been found. 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,360 That you'd think that they'd be able to find these folks, 100 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,560 wouldn't you? Wow, that's just a few cases. 101 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,960 We'll go back and look at these individually. 102 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,240 The idea that somebody that is just, you know, especially this 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 hunter out there, just just doing your thing and then they 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,040 completely disappear. The dogs can't find the scent. 105 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,280 And then we find this body in this strange condition where 106 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,120 clothes have been torn off, guys laying there in these underwear, 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 terrible look on his face. You have to ask yourself what's 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,280 going on. So let's go ahead and take a 109 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,520 look at this first case we talked about this Todd Sees from 110 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,960 Pennsylvania who went missing on August 2nd, 2002. 111 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,920 So looking at this Todd Sees case, wow, this is a weird one. 112 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,920 I guess this is one I wasn't really aware of. 113 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Shame on me. I found this over at fortina.org 114 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,320 and I dated September 16th, 2002. 115 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,800 This this little right up here It says how did we miss this 116 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,040 when? Mods feel free to merge if this 117 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,680 has been covered. So this must be some kind of a 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,720 some kind of a social networking place for these types of 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,040 stories. It says on August 2nd a witness 120 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:49,360 saw a UFO above Montour Ridge in Northland Pennsylvania in N 121 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Cumberland, Pennsylvania. Now this is kind of East Central 122 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,840 Pennsylvania. Looks like some pretty rugged 123 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:58,080 mountainous area maybe? It hovered above some power 124 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,480 lines and directed a beam of blue and white light to the 125 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,920 ground. Next he saw what appeared to be 126 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,920 a man suspended in the light being pulled up toward the UFO 127 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,360 head first. The man was moving his arms 128 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,960 slowly in the light and seemed to be pulled up into the bottom 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,640 of the craft. A few seconds later the UFO flew 130 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:30,440 W rapidly, stopped again briefly, then flew straight up 131 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,520 and out of sight. Two days later, the body of 39 132 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,520 year old Todd Sees was found nearby. 133 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Sees lived at the base of Montour Ridge and went up on the 134 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,120 mountain on his four Wheeler to look for deer. 135 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,120 He told his wife he would be home by noon. 136 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,400 He left home at little after 5:00 AM and his wife began to 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,120 get worried around noon. A search party was organized at 138 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:02,840 2:00 PM with local police, state police, paramedics and 200 139 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,280 volunteers. So they got right on this. 140 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,120 His son found the four Wheeler on the top of the mountain near 141 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,360 a power line with the ignition key missing. 142 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,800 Tracking dogs could find no human traces. 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,320 Now tell me he he drove the he drove that thing up there, he 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,680 got off of it. Why was there no human traces? 145 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Unless he never got off of it. Maybe he was just basically 146 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,000 vacuumed up off this four Wheeler man tracking dogs could 147 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,840 find no human traces. The search went on for two days 148 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,240 covering 6 miles of territory. Skin divers even searched upon a 149 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,280 few 100 yards from the house. In the evening of the second 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:53,640 day, something white was spotted in a large brushy area 25 feet 151 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,080 from the pond. So if if they had people out 152 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,560 there diving in this pond, surely they would have been 153 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:02,840 looking around the pond, right? So are we to assume this body 154 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,760 lay there for two days? Nobody noticed it? 155 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,920 I don't think so. Police and rescue workers spent 156 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,840 20 minutes cutting and hacking brush and small trees so they 157 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,160 could reach what looked like a body. 158 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,200 It turned out to be the white emanciated body of Todd Sees. 159 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,760 It wasn't bloated, so he appeared not to have drowned or 160 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,680 been in the pond for any length of time. 161 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,560 His face had an expression of horror on it. 162 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,520 He was wearing only underwear despite having been fully 163 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,800 dressed when he left the house and will tell me his four 164 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Wheelers on top of the mountain, why would he be down next to the 165 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,120 pond? The FBI arrived within 30 166 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,480 minutes and took charge of the case, questioning area 167 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,680 residents. Is that weird to you that the 168 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:59,920 FBI showed up that quick? I mean it is to me. 3 farmers 169 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:04,520 said they saw a large, round, bright object hovering above 170 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,240 power lines at the time of the disappearance. 171 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,520 It was silent and didn't move for about 10 or 15 minutes, then 172 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,440 it shot up and suddenly stopped again. 173 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,680 A light shone down and something was pulled into the light. 174 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,920 It then shot up again, hesitated, then flew out of 175 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,760 sight. 1 Farmer said the UFO appeared out of nowhere and he 176 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,280 could see sparks flying power line tower as it hovered 177 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,160 overhead. The whole incident lasted about 178 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,480 10 minutes before the UFO got very bright and took off flying 179 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,880 low. His horses were very upset and 180 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,920 nervous for about 12 hours afterwards. 181 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,000 When the body was autopsied, no cause of death was found. 182 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,880 Two rattlesnakes were spotted in the area. 183 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,680 The toxology test ruled out snake bite as the cause of 184 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,400 death, as well as drugs or other toxins. 185 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,520 There were no signs of foul play as there were no visible cuts or 186 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,080 bruises to the body except for the brush. 187 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,760 One of his boots was discovered in the top of a tree from where 188 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,440 the four Wheeler was found. Excuse me? 189 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,040 One who's one of his boots was discovered in the top of a tree. 190 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,680 Yeah. So tell me how that boot got 191 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:27,920 there. So he's seen by at least one 192 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,040 person being just levitated up into this flying saucer. 193 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,760 You've got a one of his boots in the top of the tree and then you 194 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,760 got his body down at the bottom of the mountain next to the pond 195 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,040 next to his house. Oh my, that is really, really 196 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,280 weird. So let's take a look at this new 197 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,680 fork. Report here says it happened on 198 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:53,400 August 4th, 2002. Reported on August 25th, 2002. 199 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Duration unknown. Observers 3 N Umberlin, PA 200 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,720 shaped disc. A farmer saw an object above 201 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Monterey Ridge near the power lines at the top of the 202 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,200 mountain. It was round and remained 203 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,520 completely still over the lines. Suddenly the object moved what 204 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,400 appeared to be a few 100 feet to the east, stopped and emitted a 205 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,200 beam of blue and white light toward the ground. 206 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,240 What happened next was deeply unsettling. 207 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,680 The farmer saw what appeared to be a man suspended in the beam 208 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:31,480 of light. He was being pulled up head 209 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,520 first while slowly moving his arms. 210 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,560 The figure, resembling a man, was then drawn into the bottom 211 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:43,040 of the craft. A few seconds later, the craft 212 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,840 began to shudder, then moved westward at high speed, stopped 213 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,760 briefly and shot straight up into the sky, disappearing from 214 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,160 sight. Two days later, a nearly naked 215 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,000 body wearing only underwear was found. 216 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,000 The man later identified had reportedly ridden up the power 217 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,160 line trail about 5:00 AM to look for deer signs. 218 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,440 His ATV was discovered 2 miles from where his body was found 219 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,840 deep in thick brush. His clothing was never 220 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,640 recovered. Bloodhounds were unable to pick 221 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,240 up a scent beyond the ATV. OK, he's found a thick brush 222 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,640 with it took him 20 minutes to hack the way through to it. 223 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,880 But when he was found in there, he was only wearing his 224 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,680 underwear and he was missing a boot. 225 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,120 So our two boots, I suppose, barefoot. 226 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,480 How did he get in there without getting any scratches on him? 227 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,840 This is crazy. The newspapers are not reporting 228 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,640 the full story. It says they're emitting key 229 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,400 details, including the fact that he was. 230 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,000 And then it says due to the presence of unverified 231 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,720 information. Oh great new fork note. 232 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,840 Due to the presence of unverified information, certain 233 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,800 details have been temporarily removed. 234 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,280 Out of respect for the deceased family, we will refrain from 235 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,520 posting additional details until official reports from police in 236 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,560 the north Umberland County Coroner's Office are released. 237 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,320 We emphasize that this report was submitted anonymously and 238 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,920 may be from the same source responsible for other 239 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,960 unstantiated reports. We sincerely regret any distress 240 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,600 that these previous that previously posted information 241 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,320 may have caused the family. Below, we have included several 242 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,880 articles published by the Daily Item regarding this incident. 243 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,280 We extend our gratitude to The Daily Item for granting 244 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,600 permission to share these articles. 245 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Wow, that's weird. So yeah, so somebody has posted 246 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,120 some stuff here. It must have been after this 247 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,200 happened and maybe the family was upset by it. 248 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Our new fork was where they would be. 249 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,760 That's kind of a problem when you're talking about a ongoing 250 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,240 missing persons case. And you got to be kind of 251 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,720 careful what you say, I suppose, on these public forums because 252 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,040 nobody wants to get sued. And it's a it's got to be just a 253 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,840 a terrible situation for the family. 254 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Oh my goodness. So I'll finish up with this. 255 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Todd sees case for this last article. 256 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,960 It's from phantomsandmonsters.com. 257 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,400 It says. Update Todd Jaycees death 258 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:20,920 investigation October 2014 dated Thursday October 23rd 2014 so 259 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,320 the article says the disappearance and eventual death 260 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,600 of 39 year old Todd JC's has been one of the most mysterious 261 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,840 cases in modern ufology. A joint investigation by Butch 262 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,320 Wachowski, cold case shoot of the UFO research team, APA and 263 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,520 myself LON Strickler of The Phantoms and Monsters 14 264 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,640 research team has been has uncovered previously undisclosed 265 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,920 information in regards to this incident. 266 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Here is a brief synopsis of the incident. 267 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,240 In the early morning of August 4th, 2002, Todd Jeffrey Sees 268 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,800 wrote his ATV starting at his home at the base of Montour 269 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,080 Ridge in north Umberlin County, PA that's Point Township, on a 270 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,480 short jaunt up a mountain trail adjacent to a sprawling high 271 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,680 power line. After he failed to return home 272 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,000 by noon, the family became concerned and notified the 273 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,080 authorities. A massive search effort ensued, 274 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,520 which included search and rescue personnel with search dogs and 275 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,200 helicopters, local and state police, as well as an organized 276 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,560 search team that number 200 plus volunteers. 277 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,080 The entire area from the top of the Ridge, adjacent woods, and 278 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,640 the family property was explored, including a small pond 279 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,960 located 70 feet from the Seas House. 280 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Divers and dogs searched the area in and around the pond 281 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,840 without success. The effort continued for 282 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,960 approximately 36 hours until the 2nd morning of the search. 283 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,360 A family member noticed something in the bushes around 284 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,600 the forementioned pond. Todd C's body had been 285 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,440 discovered in an area that was heavily searched the previous 286 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,320 day. Since that time, there has been 287 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560 very little information released to the public. 288 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,119 The death was ruled as fatal cocaine toxicity. 289 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,920 Well, I hadn't heard that before. 290 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Despite evidence suggesting that something else most likely 291 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,160 occurred. The circumstances involving the 292 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,760 recovery, handling, autopsy and final arrangements with the body 293 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,280 are also mired in controversy. So we are left with the obvious 294 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,319 question. And what happened to Todd Sees? 295 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,400 Peter B Davenport, president of the of the National UFO 296 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Reporting Center, investigated the information forwarded to 297 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,360 Youfork by witnesses, including the following report. 298 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:43,680 The craft was seen on Montour Ridge on August 4th, 2002 at 299 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,000 5:30 in the morning by a farmer and also three fishermen on the 300 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,280 Susquehanna River. It was at the very top of the 301 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,080 mountain on the western end, just hovering above the power 302 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,360 lines. The farmer said it appeared out 303 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,120 of nowhere. He could see some sparks flying 304 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,520 from the tower and dropping to the ground. 305 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,600 The whole incident lasted about 10 minutes. 306 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:10,760 Then it the object got very bright and took off very low, 307 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,640 heading West. Then it stopped and went 308 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,080 straight up. It was gone in seconds. 309 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,720 The horses on the farm were very upset and nervous for about 12 310 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,120 hours. Subsequently, it says New Fork 311 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,400 received this excerpt from another report. 312 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,000 Farmer saw an object, an object above Montura Ridge at the power 313 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,520 lines on top of the mountain. It was very round and very still 314 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,880 over the lines. Suddenly it moved what looked 315 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,920 like a few 100 feet to the east. It stopped in a beam of blue and 316 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,000 white light shine to the ground. What was seen next was very 317 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,200 unnerving. He saw what appeared to be a man 318 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,000 suspended in the light. He was being pulled up head 319 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,960 first. He was moving his arm slowly in 320 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,200 the light. What looked like a man was 321 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,240 pulled up into the bottom of the craft a few seconds later and it 322 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,680 started shuddering, then went W very fast, stopped briefly, then 323 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,120 went straight up and out of sight. 324 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,800 On August 29th, 2002, the day after New Fork had posted the 325 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,200 two reports shown above, New Fork received a third report 326 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,280 from an individual who provided their name and contact 327 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,840 information, though that information was never made 328 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,320 available. Much of that report, along with 329 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,840 another report that soon followed, contained a 330 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,280 considerable amount of false information. 331 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,040 As a result, speculation has run rampant for almost a decade. 332 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,160 This is why Butch and I are investigating this case, to find 333 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,920 the truth behind the speculation. 334 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,440 Wow, that kind of muddies the water a bit, doesn't it? 335 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,400 So many times, man, you see these cases and the narrative 336 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,760 doesn't fit what we've been told. 337 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,360 Hey, these are all top secret programs, or they're from 338 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:56,560 another country, or maybe even they're just here for a kumbaya 339 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,200 moment. When we have these kind of cases 340 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,640 where they're doing violence, these UFO's are doing violence 341 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,560 on people, that narrative doesn't really fit in very well. 342 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,600 You see what happens with a lot of these cases when the 343 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,040 narrative doesn't fit, you got to quit, right? 344 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,000 So they go ahead, they bring in another narrative and try to 345 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,800 pass that one off on us. This is a weird case. 346 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,960 So you have this guy, he's going out and doing a little scouting 347 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,800 for deer hunting. Gets to the top of this 348 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,200 mountain, disappears, find his one of his boots in the top of a 349 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,520 tree. Wouldn't like to know how that 350 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,960 got there. You have a farmer, local farmer 351 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,960 says, hey, I saw this guy get sucked up. 352 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,120 I saw a guy get sucked up into a UFO3 Fishermen confirmed that 353 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:39,720 they saw this UFO in that area. And then a couple days later, 354 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,880 you find the guy's body next to a little pond on his property 355 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:46,520 that kind of just dropped there. It looks like almost in this 356 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,480 really heavy brushy area. It took volunteers 20 minutes 357 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,640 just to cut and hack the way back in there to retrieve the 358 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,600 body. How did he get back in there? 359 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,760 And he was also described as emanciated. 360 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,240 What kind of shape was he when he left to go up to go deer 361 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,920 hunting? Very weird. 362 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,040 First off, it comes back. All the toxicology reports say, 363 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,920 no, it's clean. And then we hear here where it 364 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,960 says, well, cocaine toxicity. I mean, what, what is it? 365 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,000 It's almost like they're just grabbing for straws. 366 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,480 And I mean, I can totally appreciate that how how terrible 367 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,880 this would be for the family. And it just got to be just 368 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,680 awful. And so I think people are kind 369 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,160 of reticent to talk about it too much. 370 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,680 But man, that's that's strange, you know, to to think that a 371 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,960 loved one could could end up in this, in this sort of a sort of 372 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,280 a situation, very, very strange case. 373 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,920 I'll take a look at one more here and then we'll wrap this 374 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,600 up. This idea of people just 375 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,480 disappearing without a trace and the possibility that UFOs are 376 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,760 involved in this stuff. Now this last case is also a 377 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,200 strange one when I really hadn't. 378 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,040 I don't think I've already ever heard it before Granger Taylor. 379 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,760 So I want to start off by just asking ChatGPT to tell me what 380 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,000 it knows about it. It says the case of Granger 381 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,280 Taylor, the UFO missing persons connection. 382 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,680 Who was Granger Taylor? Granger Taylor was a 32 year old 383 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,680 mechanical genius from Duncan, BC, Canada. 384 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,760 He was known for his extraordinary engineering skills 385 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,000 and built a life-size UFO replica in his backyard. 386 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,840 Taylor had a deep fascination with UFOs and extraterrestrial 387 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,040 life, often telling friends and family that he had made contact 388 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,680 with aliens who promised to take him on a journey through space 389 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,480 since the the disappearance November 29th, 1980. 390 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,160 On the night of November 29th, 1980, Taylor left a handwritten 391 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,800 note for his parents stating that he was boarding an alien 392 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,000 spaceship for a 42 month interstellar journey. 393 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,920 He took his pickup truck and vanished during a stormy night. 394 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,920 No one saw or heard from him again. 395 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,960 For six years. There was no trace of Taylor or 396 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,600 his truck. In 1986, fragments of his 397 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,240 vehicle were found in a remote forested area near Mount 398 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,440 Prevast, alongside explosive residue. 399 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,320 It was speculated that he may have detonated dynamite, which 400 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,160 he had access to in an attempt to simulate a spaceship launch 401 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,480 or for unknown reasons, says theories in UFO connections. 402 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,960 Suicide by explosion Some believe Taylor, suffering from 403 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,200 delusions or mental illness, may have staged his departure and 404 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,360 used explosives in his life. UFO enthusiasts argue that the 405 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:32,440 lack of a body and his belief in alien context suggests he was 406 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,760 generally taken by extraterrestrials. 407 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,120 And then there's the theory of the accidental death. 408 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,040 Another possibility is that he died accidentally while 409 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,440 experimenting with explosives. Despite the official conclusion 410 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,320 that Taylor likely died in an explosion, his disappearance 411 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,400 remains a mystery, fueling theories that he may have 412 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,520 successfully left Earth on a UFO. 413 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,680 Wow, that's some strange stuff there. 414 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Take a look at this next article. 415 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,600 This article comes to us from timescolumnist.com Times 416 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,920 columnist.com written by Mike Devlin, dated February 3rd, 417 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,920 2019. It's got a picture of this 418 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,800 fellow here, Granger Taylor says what happened to Granger Taylor? 419 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,000 CBC documentary digs into Duncan man's UFO claims and 420 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,920 disappearance. So it starts off it says Granger 421 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,280 Taylor. That was the name of a file I 422 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,080 created and placed on the desktop desktop of my computer 423 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,760 in 2015. Written inside that document 424 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,000 were the few details I knew about the 32 year old Duncan man 425 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,000 who went missing in 1980. I hoped to work on a story about 426 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,440 this curious figure from the side of my desk. 427 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520 The term journalist used to stave off editors when there's 428 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,960 no definitive timeline for a story or new angle to report. 429 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,200 The file has remained untouched for the better part of three 430 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,600 years. Taylor's story had been told and 431 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,800 retold, examined and re examined long before a file bearing his 432 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,240 name ever made it to my desktop. The Duncan mechanic vanished in 433 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,760 1980, not long after building a life-size model of a UFO in the 434 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,680 backyard of his family's farm. In the afternoon following his 435 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,160 disappearance, his stepfather discovered a note tacked to his 436 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,880 bedroom door laying out Taylor's plans. 437 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,040 On the back of the note was a hand drawn map of Waterloo 438 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,880 Mountain, not far from his family's farm at Somonos Lake. 439 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,680 And then here's a note. It says dear mother and father. 440 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,920 It's dated 11/29/80. I have gone away to walk aboard 441 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,000 an alien spaceship as reoccurring dreams assured a 42 442 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,200 month interstellar voyage to explore the vast universe and 443 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,680 return. I am leaving behind all my 444 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,200 possessions to you as I will no longer as I will no longer will 445 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,560 require the use of any. Please use the instructions in 446 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,440 my will as a guide to help. Love Granger. 447 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,160 It's written in all caps. It says he hasn't been seen 448 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,600 since Taylor had left behind a will, taking the time to make 2 449 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,280 alterations before embarking on his journey. 450 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,200 The word funeral was deleted and the word death was replaced by 451 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,240 departure in 1986. Truck fragments and bones were 452 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,200 found at a blast site on Mount Provas. 453 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Now they're saying here that there were bones found. 454 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,600 The other article didn't report that. 455 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,720 Though. DNA testing has not was not 456 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,880 prevalent at the time, pathology work by the coroner attributed 457 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,960 the adult the adult human bones to Taylor. 458 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,920 Fragments of clothing found amid the decayed material were from a 459 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,480 shirt owned by Taylor, as confirmed by his mother, who has 460 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,440 since died. The fragments matched the fabric 461 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,440 of a shirt she had sewn for him not long before he disappeared. 462 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,200 Representatives from the auto division of the RCMP confirmed 463 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,400 the truck was his. A report by the BC Coroner's 464 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,120 Office officially declared Taylor dead. 465 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:02,320 And with that, the strange tale of Granger Taylor was officially 466 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,440 closed. One of his friends, however, 467 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,680 disputes that evidence, arguing that it is inconclusive. 468 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:11,160 Others who never met Taylor have put forward a variety of 469 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,040 theories, including that he relocated to Colombia or was 470 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,640 kidnapped by the US government to work in Area 51, the remote 471 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,120 US air base that's at the center of alien conspiracy theories. 472 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Spaceman, a new documentary airing on CBCTV next week. 473 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,600 Of course, this is what, 10 years old, or excuse me, five 474 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,760 years old, digs deeper into Taylor's life but ultimately 475 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,120 fails to draw any conclusions about his fate. 476 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,160 We didn't set out to prove any theories, said executive 477 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,000 producer Jennifer Horf, F of the Toronto's Alibi Entertainment, 478 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,640 which produced Spaceman. The story that is revealed is 479 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,560 one of a person who meant a lot to a number of people who never 480 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,120 had the opportunity to publicly mourn him. 481 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,200 A story like this is obviously a very personal one for family 482 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,840 members. He had some concerns because 483 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,080 this is the kind of story that could easily be sensationalized. 484 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,240 Plenty has been written about Grainger Taylor in the years 485 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,320 following his 1980 disappearance, and he is subject 486 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,360 of a healthy amount of online interest. 487 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,040 A series of stories in the Times columnist by reporter Derek 488 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,000 Seidenius covered the nuts and bolts of the story. 489 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,360 But conspiracy theories from authors, podcasters and 490 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,080 theorists from around the world continue unabated. 491 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,160 Plumbing the deep corners of his story, Horvath said Co directors 492 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,240 John Choi and Nicolina Lani chose to avoid the many 493 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,320 conspiracy theorists who have weighed in on the story. 494 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Theorists about Taylor being relocated to Columbia or 495 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,520 kidnapped by the US government, or that he's abandoned. 496 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Pickup truck grown over by Moss and trees was discovered in the 497 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,680 dense woods of Mount Prevos were largely left out of the film. 498 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080 We have a photo of the truck, but we weren't able to locate 499 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,880 the vehicle. Corbeth said. 500 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,920 The image of an overgrown Datsun that appears to be from the same 501 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,160 area as the 1966 truck Taylor was driving the night he 502 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,840 vanished is alarming when it appears at the end of Spaceman. 503 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,880 They are cool stories, but they are not something anyone in the 504 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,680 family took seriously. A report by BC Coroner's Service 505 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720 obtained this past week by the Times columnist includes 506 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,040 confirmation that the vehicle identification number of the 507 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,680 truck parts found off Satellite Road near Mount Prevos, where 508 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,320 Taylor was reportedly headed on the night of November 29th, 509 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,160 1980, matched that of Taylor's truck. 510 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,920 The cause of death listed on the report was massive injuries due 511 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,960 to the consequence of an explosion. 512 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,240 The mind The finding was based on circumstantial evidence at 513 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,640 the site. According to the report, 514 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,040 Taylor's friend Robert Keller was 15 in 1980 when Taylor 515 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,160 disappeared. Though he was more than twice 516 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Keller's age at the time of his disappearance, Taylor had a 517 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,920 profound effect on both Keller and many others in the area. 518 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Big and burly, the Grade 8 dropout was mechanically gifted 519 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,520 and often taught neighborhood kids the insurance and outs of 520 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360 machinery. Serving as a mentor with the 521 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,600 neighborhood kids as helpers, he rebuilt locomotives, bulldozers, 522 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,960 cars, trucks, even airplanes. A Kitty Hawk plane from the 523 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,880 Second World War that Taylor restored was on display for 524 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,360 years in the Duncan area before being purchased by a private 525 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,520 collector in North Dakota. Some of Taylor's restored trains 526 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,360 and cars have made their way into the BC Force Discovery 527 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,680 Center and Duncan. The family's 21 acre property 528 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,480 was a hub of activity during the 1970s as a master mechanic. 529 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360 The oldest of eight children in a blended family schooled his 530 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,480 understudies. He was very much of the place 531 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,480 where we grew up. Horbeck said The work that he 532 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,640 did as far as finding machinery and restoring it was impressive 533 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,600 for somebody who didn't have a lot of formal education. 534 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,360 He could build anything. He was a uniquely talented guy. 535 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,000 It's got a picture of this spaceship he's tried to recreate 536 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,200 here. Pretty wild. 537 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,560 Taylor's parents, Jim and Grace, have since died, and the farm is 538 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,640 now owned by Taylor's sister, Grace Reynolds. 539 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,120 It was on the same property that Taylor built the object most 540 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,960 often associated with the story, a spaceship constructed from 2 541 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,320 satellite dishes. His interest in space travel was 542 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,960 peaked when Star Wars arrived in 1977, and construction of this 543 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,880 UFO like fortress, complete with a wood stove and bed begins soon 544 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040 after. At first it was all in fun, but 545 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,480 then he built a radio with which he could communicate with aliens 546 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,080 based on the recurring dreams about alien abduction that he 547 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,720 was having. Questions about his well-being 548 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,600 begin to circulate. Keller, now 53, helped Taylor 549 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,280 build the spaceship and maintains that his friend was 550 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,240 anything but suicidal. Granger was the most 551 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,640 intelligent, down to earth, wise man that I have ever met in my 552 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,440 life, said Keller, who with his family was among the last to see 553 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640 Taylor alive. He maintains he would have known 554 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,480 if Taylor were intending to kill himself. 555 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,440 He wasn't a nut. He was a very intelligent guy 556 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,760 who carried out with his life normally. 557 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,120 But after you say spaceman then all of a sudden he becomes a 558 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120 nut. Wow. 559 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840 It's got a picture of him here. It's like his step dad and his 560 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,640 mom. The back door of the Taylor 561 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,600 family home was left unlocked for years in the event that he 562 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,080 would walk through it at some point. 563 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,960 How sad? Shy with a tendency to be 564 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,200 socially awkward. Taylor would could be classified 565 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,280 as an eccentric by some, but that didn't mean he was unhappy. 566 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,640 The common sense of theory that ignores the space travel 567 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,600 hypothesis, however, points to the conclusion that he killed 568 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,840 himself. Taylor's mental health had 569 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,200 reportedly declined in the months leading to his 570 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,240 disappearance, and according to a Vice magazine article written 571 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,800 in 2016, he was taking LSD regularly before he vanished. 572 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,200 It's for that reason that some members of the Taylor family who 573 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,480 participated in the documentary have given up hope he will ever 574 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,720 be found. Let's set the record. 575 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440 Granger's gone. He's dead, half brother Joseph 576 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,280 Taylor says in the film. He did some amazing things. 577 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,160 Granger had some challenges. He couldn't deal with those 578 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,920 challenges. He took his life. 579 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,200 That's boy. That's an assumption. 580 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,560 I guess. Maybe they knew something we 581 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,600 don't. Not knowing either way is 582 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,960 difficult, is a difficult burden for some to carry, which is why 583 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,680 the Taylor family decided not to have a funeral even after he was 584 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,400 officially declared dead by the coroner in 1986. 585 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,680 The date of his death was listed as November 30th, 1980. 586 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,000 For a number of people we spoke to, this was a chance to go 587 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,160 through their experiences and say goodbye in a very final way. 588 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,280 Horvath said. He's got a picture of him 589 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,600 driving this old antique car here. 590 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,360 Guy does seem to have been some kind of a mechanical genius. 591 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400 Without further data, however, many believed he could still be 592 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,680 alive. Taylor made a stop at Bob's 593 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Grill near Duncan before journeying to Mount Prevost the 594 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,440 stormy night of his of his disappearance, and neighbors 595 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,440 reported hearing a loud boom around the time he would have 596 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,760 arrived at his destination. OK, it doesn't sound good. 597 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,639 Was it the sound of UFO leave the universe atmosphere or the 598 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,360 sound of a pickup truck being blown up by dynamite? 599 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:21,120 Duncan was besieged by a historically bad storm that 600 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480 night, Keller said, so it could have been easily Thunder. 601 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,920 Taylor had told Keller that the aliens would likely arrive when 602 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,120 the weather was bad so they could travel undercover. 603 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,239 Taylor had experience with explosives, and the fact he 604 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,320 reportedly had dynamite in his possession at the time of his 605 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,400 disappearance shouldn't factor into the equation. 606 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,960 Killer said he was too smart to have an accident up on the 607 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,600 mountain. There's no way he knew how to 608 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,320 handle explosives. He was basically an expert, so 609 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,360 when it came to safety, that was his number one priority. 610 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,440 It doesn't work with me. He wouldn't have had an accident 611 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,480 and he wouldn't have done it on purpose. 612 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,400 Horvath said that despite their best efforts, they were unable 613 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,880 to locate the blast site, listed as 600 feet in diameter on the 614 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,640 coroner's report during the filming of Spaceman. 615 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Keller also has questions about the veracity of the evidence. 616 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,120 The police said it was a blue truck, but his truck was a Pepto 617 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,800 Bismol pink. I helped him paint it with my 618 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,800 buddy Darren. He said what they found on the 619 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,640 mountain was not Granger's truck. 620 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,560 They have no actual idea if it was Granger's bones or not. 621 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,760 The ongoing fascination with Taylor is understandable. 622 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,000 If there's anyone who could survive an interstitial journey 623 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,320 and still be alive today, the quick thinking of Mechanic is a 624 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,280 better candidate than most. Whether he went on the journey 625 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,760 into space or died soon after, Keller believes he won't never 626 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040 see his friend again. And that is a saddening, 627 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,000 sobering thought. He admitted not knowing if he's 628 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,760 dead or is no, but is no better than knowing. 629 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,960 Is it possible that he killed himself? 630 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,760 Keller asked, bringing himself to tears with his answer. 631 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,720 It's really hard to accept that. I know that's a possibility, but 632 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,360 there's all kinds of possibilities. 633 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080 Even though the film makers spent weeks researching the 634 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,440 story and shooting interviews for Spaceman, Horvath said that 635 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,320 the narrative was left open-ended. 636 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,040 No one has absolute knowledge of the situation, she said. 637 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,480 We couldn't close the book on it. 638 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,280 Definitely. That's really strange. 639 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Kind of a sad case there. You can kind of compare and 640 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,560 contrast these two cases between Granger and sea. 641 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,520 I mean, the one guy seems like a Family Guy. 642 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,040 He's a hunter. He's going up the mountain, he's 643 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,480 looking for deer, doing a little scouting, and then just 644 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,080 disappears to begin with. They they find a body, what a 645 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,160 couple days later, bring the FBI in. 646 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,760 At first they say, well, no cause of death, don't know what 647 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,080 happened. And then we're told later, 648 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,400 possibly cocaine toxicity. Where in the heck did that come 649 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,400 from? I haven't seen the actual, 650 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,120 haven't seen the actual coroner's report on that. 651 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,120 So I don't know either way. But just, you know, just kind of 652 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,000 a lot of cloudy stuff around it. And we also had the reports of 653 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,480 the neighbors there seeing this UFO hover over this mountain, 654 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,640 some kind of frankly, a little sketchy stuff there where it's 655 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,720 reported. And then they had to take it 656 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,720 down at Newport because in consideration of the family, I 657 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,520 guess you always have to take in mind the people that survived 658 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,680 this kind of event. It's got to be just a horribly 659 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,200 tragic situation. So like a lot of these cases, 660 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,800 it's just shrouded mystery and misinformation. 661 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,160 I mean, all we know for sure is we have a guy who's missing, who 662 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,360 is found a couple days later, dead, where people were 663 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,400 searching at just before he was found. 664 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,400 It seems pretty clear cut. This guy, it almost seems like, 665 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,200 it seems clear to me that he was abducted. 666 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,600 But how do I know? I mean, you find his shoe at the 667 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,560 top of the tree. That's really weird. 668 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,960 If that's true, how did that shoe get there? 669 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:45,440 And then you find the body kind of deposited it in within this 670 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,920 really brushy, thick area where rescuers have to cut and hack 671 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,880 way back to. How did he get back in there? 672 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,120 Odd. And compare that to the case 673 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,880 where you have this kind of maybe somewhat misunderstood 674 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,680 mechanical genius who is really does seem to be fascinated with 675 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,040 UFOs, tells his stepparent and parent that he's going to go 676 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,440 meet this UFO, leaves a note form or whatever and he's never 677 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,320 seen again. Then we end up with conflicting 678 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,200 reports about his truck. You know, what kind of truck it 679 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360 was, what color it was. Possibly it's been blown to 680 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,360 bits. I discovered 5-6 years later, 681 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,160 more mystery surrounding this thing. 682 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,000 It just leads, it leads to more questions and answers and 683 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,960 whether these things are actually, these disappearances 684 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,040 are actually directly caused by UFO's or the people just had 685 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,320 some sort of strange fascinations with UFO's that 686 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,840 happened to go missing. It doesn't seem like there's 687 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,280 really been a thorough enough investigation and there really 688 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,800 hasn't been enough transparency involved and telling us what 689 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,120 really did happen to these folks who disappeared without a trace. 690 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,760 Until next time. This is UFO warning over now.