Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode we're talking about disappeared without a
trace. That's correct, disappeared
without a trace. We're looking at 3 cases where
people disappeared and there's reason to believe there was some
kind of UFO alien abduction. This is some weird stuff.
If you into this at all, how I suggest David Politis, I think
he's kind of the expert on this. I watch a lot of his stuff.
He's covered a lot of these cases, probably hundreds of
cases. I know he's written several
books and done documentaries and stuff and they just keep coming
up with more questions and answers.
Some of these cases are really disturbing and you have to
wonder what what on earth is going on here?
And we look at all the different possibilities.
Could it be that some of these people are actually being
abducted through UFO type alien abductions?
I found this article over at medium.com written by Christina
Gomez. I think she's got some kind of
a, some kind of a website there. It says the Vanished.
Exploring the eerie connection between UFOs and missing person
cases. This is dated May 31st, 2024
begins by saying. Throughout history, there have
been numerous cases of individuals who have disappeared
without a trace, leaving behind a trail of unanswered questions
and speculation. Well, many of these cases can be
attributed to various factors, such as foul play, accidents, or
voluntary disappearances. There is a subset of cases that
have been linked to the mysterious rule of UFOs and
alleged alien abductions. One such case is that if Todd
sees a resident of Pennsylvania who set out on a deer spotting
expedition on August 2nd, 2002, when he failed to return home, a
massive search operation was launched involving over 200
volunteers, firefighters and police officers.
C's four Wheeler was discovered 2 miles from his home, but
surprisingly, search dogs were unable to detect his scent from
the vehicle. Two days later, his body was
found in a dense brush area wearing only underwear with no
external injuries and an expression with its sheer shock.
The FBI quickly took over the investigation and CS wife was
not allowed to see the body for six to eight weeks.
In the vicinity where Todd was found, people witnessed a UFO
sighting. That's some scary stuff.
There are a lot of different things.
It sounds like this poor fellow's body was moved.
Says he was just wearing his underwear.
You have to ask what in the world's going on there.
Talks about his face having this sheer look of shock on it.
Now, if you're like me and you're old enough to have seen a
few people after they passed away before the before they, you
know, got to the Funeral Home, that's not something you really
want to see. I mean, hopefully the person is
going to have a look, a piece on their face where they just
passed away. The idea that somebody has this,
has this shocked look on their face and that's the last emotion
that they experienced before they died, and that's really
unsettling. These are the kind of things
that never really seem to get addressed in a lot of these
cases. Goes on down and says another
intriguing case and we'll come back and look at these cases
individually. Another intriguing case is that
Frederick Valentich. Frederick Valentich, a 20 year
old Australian pilot who vanished during a training
flight over the Bass Strait on October 21st, 1978.
During the flight, Valentich reported an unidentified craft
following him and described it as having four bright lights and
a shiny metal service metal surface.
His final transmission was it's not an aircraft followed by 17
seconds of metallic scraping sounds.
Despite an extensive search, neither Valentich nor his
aircraft were ever found. The Australian Department of
Transports investigation found no evidence of any aircraft in
the area at the time of the incident.
Yeah, poor fellows just flying along there.
It's almost like his plane was scooped up by this thing.
Just a young guy. That's a pretty famous case
actually. It says the Ken Ross incident
involving US Air Force pilots Felix Mankla and Robert Wilson
is another case that was captured that has captured the
attention of UFO enthusiast. On November 23rd, 1953, the 2
pilots were dispatched to investigate an unidentified
target near the Michigan border. As their F89C Scorpion
interceptor closed in on the target, Both the UFO and the
interceptor disappeared from radar.
No debris or wreckage was ever found and the US Air Force's
explanation for the disappearance was deemed
inconclusive. Another very disturbing
disappearance. We've talked about that in the
podcast. This one here says the story of
Granger Taylor, a man from Duncan, BC, adds another layer
to the UFO missing persons connection.
Taylor, who claimed to have a life changing encounter with
extraterrestrial beings in 1975, became obsessed with the idea of
building his own spacecraft called the Galaxy.
On November 29th, 1980, he left a note for his parents stating
that he was going on a 42 month interstellar voyage aboard an
alien spacecraft. Taylor never returned and no
trace of him has ever been found.
That you'd think that they'd be able to find these folks,
wouldn't you? Wow, that's just a few cases.
We'll go back and look at these individually.
The idea that somebody that is just, you know, especially this
hunter out there, just just doing your thing and then they
completely disappear. The dogs can't find the scent.
And then we find this body in this strange condition where
clothes have been torn off, guys laying there in these underwear,
terrible look on his face. You have to ask yourself what's
going on. So let's go ahead and take a
look at this first case we talked about this Todd Sees from
Pennsylvania who went missing on August 2nd, 2002.
So looking at this Todd Sees case, wow, this is a weird one.
I guess this is one I wasn't really aware of.
Shame on me. I found this over at fortina.org
and I dated September 16th, 2002.
This this little right up here It says how did we miss this
when? Mods feel free to merge if this
has been covered. So this must be some kind of a
some kind of a social networking place for these types of
stories. It says on August 2nd a witness
saw a UFO above Montour Ridge in Northland Pennsylvania in N
Cumberland, Pennsylvania. Now this is kind of East Central
Pennsylvania. Looks like some pretty rugged
mountainous area maybe? It hovered above some power
lines and directed a beam of blue and white light to the
ground. Next he saw what appeared to be
a man suspended in the light being pulled up toward the UFO
head first. The man was moving his arms
slowly in the light and seemed to be pulled up into the bottom
of the craft. A few seconds later the UFO flew
W rapidly, stopped again briefly, then flew straight up
and out of sight. Two days later, the body of 39
year old Todd Sees was found nearby.
Sees lived at the base of Montour Ridge and went up on the
mountain on his four Wheeler to look for deer.
He told his wife he would be home by noon.
He left home at little after 5:00 AM and his wife began to
get worried around noon. A search party was organized at
2:00 PM with local police, state police, paramedics and 200
volunteers. So they got right on this.
His son found the four Wheeler on the top of the mountain near
a power line with the ignition key missing.
Tracking dogs could find no human traces.
Now tell me he he drove the he drove that thing up there, he
got off of it. Why was there no human traces?
Unless he never got off of it. Maybe he was just basically
vacuumed up off this four Wheeler man tracking dogs could
find no human traces. The search went on for two days
covering 6 miles of territory. Skin divers even searched upon a
few 100 yards from the house. In the evening of the second
day, something white was spotted in a large brushy area 25 feet
from the pond. So if if they had people out
there diving in this pond, surely they would have been
looking around the pond, right? So are we to assume this body
lay there for two days? Nobody noticed it?
I don't think so. Police and rescue workers spent
20 minutes cutting and hacking brush and small trees so they
could reach what looked like a body.
It turned out to be the white emanciated body of Todd Sees.
It wasn't bloated, so he appeared not to have drowned or
been in the pond for any length of time.
His face had an expression of horror on it.
He was wearing only underwear despite having been fully
dressed when he left the house and will tell me his four
Wheelers on top of the mountain, why would he be down next to the
pond? The FBI arrived within 30
minutes and took charge of the case, questioning area
residents. Is that weird to you that the
FBI showed up that quick? I mean it is to me. 3 farmers
said they saw a large, round, bright object hovering above
power lines at the time of the disappearance.
It was silent and didn't move for about 10 or 15 minutes, then
it shot up and suddenly stopped again.
A light shone down and something was pulled into the light.
It then shot up again, hesitated, then flew out of
sight. 1 Farmer said the UFO appeared out of nowhere and he
could see sparks flying power line tower as it hovered
overhead. The whole incident lasted about
10 minutes before the UFO got very bright and took off flying
low. His horses were very upset and
nervous for about 12 hours afterwards.
When the body was autopsied, no cause of death was found.
Two rattlesnakes were spotted in the area.
The toxology test ruled out snake bite as the cause of
death, as well as drugs or other toxins.
There were no signs of foul play as there were no visible cuts or
bruises to the body except for the brush.
One of his boots was discovered in the top of a tree from where
the four Wheeler was found. Excuse me?
One who's one of his boots was discovered in the top of a tree.
Yeah. So tell me how that boot got
there. So he's seen by at least one
person being just levitated up into this flying saucer.
You've got a one of his boots in the top of the tree and then you
got his body down at the bottom of the mountain next to the pond
next to his house. Oh my, that is really, really
weird. So let's take a look at this new
fork. Report here says it happened on
August 4th, 2002. Reported on August 25th, 2002.
Duration unknown. Observers 3 N Umberlin, PA
shaped disc. A farmer saw an object above
Monterey Ridge near the power lines at the top of the
mountain. It was round and remained
completely still over the lines. Suddenly the object moved what
appeared to be a few 100 feet to the east, stopped and emitted a
beam of blue and white light toward the ground.
What happened next was deeply unsettling.
The farmer saw what appeared to be a man suspended in the beam
of light. He was being pulled up head
first while slowly moving his arms.
The figure, resembling a man, was then drawn into the bottom
of the craft. A few seconds later, the craft
began to shudder, then moved westward at high speed, stopped
briefly and shot straight up into the sky, disappearing from
sight. Two days later, a nearly naked
body wearing only underwear was found.
The man later identified had reportedly ridden up the power
line trail about 5:00 AM to look for deer signs.
His ATV was discovered 2 miles from where his body was found
deep in thick brush. His clothing was never
recovered. Bloodhounds were unable to pick
up a scent beyond the ATV. OK, he's found a thick brush
with it took him 20 minutes to hack the way through to it.
But when he was found in there, he was only wearing his
underwear and he was missing a boot.
So our two boots, I suppose, barefoot.
How did he get in there without getting any scratches on him?
This is crazy. The newspapers are not reporting
the full story. It says they're emitting key
details, including the fact that he was.
And then it says due to the presence of unverified
information. Oh great new fork note.
Due to the presence of unverified information, certain
details have been temporarily removed.
Out of respect for the deceased family, we will refrain from
posting additional details until official reports from police in
the north Umberland County Coroner's Office are released.
We emphasize that this report was submitted anonymously and
may be from the same source responsible for other
unstantiated reports. We sincerely regret any distress
that these previous that previously posted information
may have caused the family. Below, we have included several
articles published by the Daily Item regarding this incident.
We extend our gratitude to The Daily Item for granting
permission to share these articles.
Wow, that's weird. So yeah, so somebody has posted
some stuff here. It must have been after this
happened and maybe the family was upset by it.
Our new fork was where they would be.
That's kind of a problem when you're talking about a ongoing
missing persons case. And you got to be kind of
careful what you say, I suppose, on these public forums because
nobody wants to get sued. And it's a it's got to be just a
a terrible situation for the family.
Oh my goodness. So I'll finish up with this.
Todd sees case for this last article.
It's from phantomsandmonsters.com.
It says. Update Todd Jaycees death
investigation October 2014 dated Thursday October 23rd 2014 so
the article says the disappearance and eventual death
of 39 year old Todd JC's has been one of the most mysterious
cases in modern ufology. A joint investigation by Butch
Wachowski, cold case shoot of the UFO research team, APA and
myself LON Strickler of The Phantoms and Monsters 14
research team has been has uncovered previously undisclosed
information in regards to this incident.
Here is a brief synopsis of the incident.
In the early morning of August 4th, 2002, Todd Jeffrey Sees
wrote his ATV starting at his home at the base of Montour
Ridge in north Umberlin County, PA that's Point Township, on a
short jaunt up a mountain trail adjacent to a sprawling high
power line. After he failed to return home
by noon, the family became concerned and notified the
authorities. A massive search effort ensued,
which included search and rescue personnel with search dogs and
helicopters, local and state police, as well as an organized
search team that number 200 plus volunteers.
The entire area from the top of the Ridge, adjacent woods, and
the family property was explored, including a small pond
located 70 feet from the Seas House.
Divers and dogs searched the area in and around the pond
without success. The effort continued for
approximately 36 hours until the 2nd morning of the search.
A family member noticed something in the bushes around
the forementioned pond. Todd C's body had been
discovered in an area that was heavily searched the previous
day. Since that time, there has been
very little information released to the public.
The death was ruled as fatal cocaine toxicity.
Well, I hadn't heard that before.
Despite evidence suggesting that something else most likely
occurred. The circumstances involving the
recovery, handling, autopsy and final arrangements with the body
are also mired in controversy. So we are left with the obvious
question. And what happened to Todd Sees?
Peter B Davenport, president of the of the National UFO
Reporting Center, investigated the information forwarded to
Youfork by witnesses, including the following report.
The craft was seen on Montour Ridge on August 4th, 2002 at
5:30 in the morning by a farmer and also three fishermen on the
Susquehanna River. It was at the very top of the
mountain on the western end, just hovering above the power
lines. The farmer said it appeared out
of nowhere. He could see some sparks flying
from the tower and dropping to the ground.
The whole incident lasted about 10 minutes.
Then it the object got very bright and took off very low,
heading West. Then it stopped and went
straight up. It was gone in seconds.
The horses on the farm were very upset and nervous for about 12
hours. Subsequently, it says New Fork
received this excerpt from another report.
Farmer saw an object, an object above Montura Ridge at the power
lines on top of the mountain. It was very round and very still
over the lines. Suddenly it moved what looked
like a few 100 feet to the east. It stopped in a beam of blue and
white light shine to the ground. What was seen next was very
unnerving. He saw what appeared to be a man
suspended in the light. He was being pulled up head
first. He was moving his arm slowly in
the light. What looked like a man was
pulled up into the bottom of the craft a few seconds later and it
started shuddering, then went W very fast, stopped briefly, then
went straight up and out of sight.
On August 29th, 2002, the day after New Fork had posted the
two reports shown above, New Fork received a third report
from an individual who provided their name and contact
information, though that information was never made
available. Much of that report, along with
another report that soon followed, contained a
considerable amount of false information.
As a result, speculation has run rampant for almost a decade.
This is why Butch and I are investigating this case, to find
the truth behind the speculation.
Wow, that kind of muddies the water a bit, doesn't it?
So many times, man, you see these cases and the narrative
doesn't fit what we've been told.
Hey, these are all top secret programs, or they're from
another country, or maybe even they're just here for a kumbaya
moment. When we have these kind of cases
where they're doing violence, these UFO's are doing violence
on people, that narrative doesn't really fit in very well.
You see what happens with a lot of these cases when the
narrative doesn't fit, you got to quit, right?
So they go ahead, they bring in another narrative and try to
pass that one off on us. This is a weird case.
So you have this guy, he's going out and doing a little scouting
for deer hunting. Gets to the top of this
mountain, disappears, find his one of his boots in the top of a
tree. Wouldn't like to know how that
got there. You have a farmer, local farmer
says, hey, I saw this guy get sucked up.
I saw a guy get sucked up into a UFO3 Fishermen confirmed that
they saw this UFO in that area. And then a couple days later,
you find the guy's body next to a little pond on his property
that kind of just dropped there. It looks like almost in this
really heavy brushy area. It took volunteers 20 minutes
just to cut and hack the way back in there to retrieve the
body. How did he get back in there?
And he was also described as emanciated.
What kind of shape was he when he left to go up to go deer
hunting? Very weird.
First off, it comes back. All the toxicology reports say,
no, it's clean. And then we hear here where it
says, well, cocaine toxicity. I mean, what, what is it?
It's almost like they're just grabbing for straws.
And I mean, I can totally appreciate that how how terrible
this would be for the family. And it just got to be just
awful. And so I think people are kind
of reticent to talk about it too much.
But man, that's that's strange, you know, to to think that a
loved one could could end up in this, in this sort of a sort of
a situation, very, very strange case.
I'll take a look at one more here and then we'll wrap this
up. This idea of people just
disappearing without a trace and the possibility that UFOs are
involved in this stuff. Now this last case is also a
strange one when I really hadn't.
I don't think I've already ever heard it before Granger Taylor.
So I want to start off by just asking ChatGPT to tell me what
it knows about it. It says the case of Granger
Taylor, the UFO missing persons connection.
Who was Granger Taylor? Granger Taylor was a 32 year old
mechanical genius from Duncan, BC, Canada.
He was known for his extraordinary engineering skills
and built a life-size UFO replica in his backyard.
Taylor had a deep fascination with UFOs and extraterrestrial
life, often telling friends and family that he had made contact
with aliens who promised to take him on a journey through space
since the the disappearance November 29th, 1980.
On the night of November 29th, 1980, Taylor left a handwritten
note for his parents stating that he was boarding an alien
spaceship for a 42 month interstellar journey.
He took his pickup truck and vanished during a stormy night.
No one saw or heard from him again.
For six years. There was no trace of Taylor or
his truck. In 1986, fragments of his
vehicle were found in a remote forested area near Mount
Prevast, alongside explosive residue.
It was speculated that he may have detonated dynamite, which
he had access to in an attempt to simulate a spaceship launch
or for unknown reasons, says theories in UFO connections.
Suicide by explosion Some believe Taylor, suffering from
delusions or mental illness, may have staged his departure and
used explosives in his life. UFO enthusiasts argue that the
lack of a body and his belief in alien context suggests he was
generally taken by extraterrestrials.
And then there's the theory of the accidental death.
Another possibility is that he died accidentally while
experimenting with explosives. Despite the official conclusion
that Taylor likely died in an explosion, his disappearance
remains a mystery, fueling theories that he may have
successfully left Earth on a UFO.
Wow, that's some strange stuff there.
Take a look at this next article.
This article comes to us from timescolumnist.com Times
columnist.com written by Mike Devlin, dated February 3rd,
2019. It's got a picture of this
fellow here, Granger Taylor says what happened to Granger Taylor?
CBC documentary digs into Duncan man's UFO claims and
disappearance. So it starts off it says Granger
Taylor. That was the name of a file I
created and placed on the desktop desktop of my computer
in 2015. Written inside that document
were the few details I knew about the 32 year old Duncan man
who went missing in 1980. I hoped to work on a story about
this curious figure from the side of my desk.
The term journalist used to stave off editors when there's
no definitive timeline for a story or new angle to report.
The file has remained untouched for the better part of three
years. Taylor's story had been told and
retold, examined and re examined long before a file bearing his
name ever made it to my desktop. The Duncan mechanic vanished in
1980, not long after building a life-size model of a UFO in the
backyard of his family's farm. In the afternoon following his
disappearance, his stepfather discovered a note tacked to his
bedroom door laying out Taylor's plans.
On the back of the note was a hand drawn map of Waterloo
Mountain, not far from his family's farm at Somonos Lake.
And then here's a note. It says dear mother and father.
It's dated 11/29/80. I have gone away to walk aboard
an alien spaceship as reoccurring dreams assured a 42
month interstellar voyage to explore the vast universe and
return. I am leaving behind all my
possessions to you as I will no longer as I will no longer will
require the use of any. Please use the instructions in
my will as a guide to help. Love Granger.
It's written in all caps. It says he hasn't been seen
since Taylor had left behind a will, taking the time to make 2
alterations before embarking on his journey.
The word funeral was deleted and the word death was replaced by
departure in 1986. Truck fragments and bones were
found at a blast site on Mount Provas.
Now they're saying here that there were bones found.
The other article didn't report that.
Though. DNA testing has not was not
prevalent at the time, pathology work by the coroner attributed
the adult the adult human bones to Taylor.
Fragments of clothing found amid the decayed material were from a
shirt owned by Taylor, as confirmed by his mother, who has
since died. The fragments matched the fabric
of a shirt she had sewn for him not long before he disappeared.
Representatives from the auto division of the RCMP confirmed
the truck was his. A report by the BC Coroner's
Office officially declared Taylor dead.
And with that, the strange tale of Granger Taylor was officially
closed. One of his friends, however,
disputes that evidence, arguing that it is inconclusive.
Others who never met Taylor have put forward a variety of
theories, including that he relocated to Colombia or was
kidnapped by the US government to work in Area 51, the remote
US air base that's at the center of alien conspiracy theories.
Spaceman, a new documentary airing on CBCTV next week.
Of course, this is what, 10 years old, or excuse me, five
years old, digs deeper into Taylor's life but ultimately
fails to draw any conclusions about his fate.
We didn't set out to prove any theories, said executive
producer Jennifer Horf, F of the Toronto's Alibi Entertainment,
which produced Spaceman. The story that is revealed is
one of a person who meant a lot to a number of people who never
had the opportunity to publicly mourn him.
A story like this is obviously a very personal one for family
members. He had some concerns because
this is the kind of story that could easily be sensationalized.
Plenty has been written about Grainger Taylor in the years
following his 1980 disappearance, and he is subject
of a healthy amount of online interest.
A series of stories in the Times columnist by reporter Derek
Seidenius covered the nuts and bolts of the story.
But conspiracy theories from authors, podcasters and
theorists from around the world continue unabated.
Plumbing the deep corners of his story, Horvath said Co directors
John Choi and Nicolina Lani chose to avoid the many
conspiracy theorists who have weighed in on the story.
Theorists about Taylor being relocated to Columbia or
kidnapped by the US government, or that he's abandoned.
Pickup truck grown over by Moss and trees was discovered in the
dense woods of Mount Prevos were largely left out of the film.
We have a photo of the truck, but we weren't able to locate
the vehicle. Corbeth said.
The image of an overgrown Datsun that appears to be from the same
area as the 1966 truck Taylor was driving the night he
vanished is alarming when it appears at the end of Spaceman.
They are cool stories, but they are not something anyone in the
family took seriously. A report by BC Coroner's Service
obtained this past week by the Times columnist includes
confirmation that the vehicle identification number of the
truck parts found off Satellite Road near Mount Prevos, where
Taylor was reportedly headed on the night of November 29th,
1980, matched that of Taylor's truck.
The cause of death listed on the report was massive injuries due
to the consequence of an explosion.
The mind The finding was based on circumstantial evidence at
the site. According to the report,
Taylor's friend Robert Keller was 15 in 1980 when Taylor
disappeared. Though he was more than twice
Keller's age at the time of his disappearance, Taylor had a
profound effect on both Keller and many others in the area.
Big and burly, the Grade 8 dropout was mechanically gifted
and often taught neighborhood kids the insurance and outs of
machinery. Serving as a mentor with the
neighborhood kids as helpers, he rebuilt locomotives, bulldozers,
cars, trucks, even airplanes. A Kitty Hawk plane from the
Second World War that Taylor restored was on display for
years in the Duncan area before being purchased by a private
collector in North Dakota. Some of Taylor's restored trains
and cars have made their way into the BC Force Discovery
Center and Duncan. The family's 21 acre property
was a hub of activity during the 1970s as a master mechanic.
The oldest of eight children in a blended family schooled his
understudies. He was very much of the place
where we grew up. Horbeck said The work that he
did as far as finding machinery and restoring it was impressive
for somebody who didn't have a lot of formal education.
He could build anything. He was a uniquely talented guy.
It's got a picture of this spaceship he's tried to recreate
here. Pretty wild.
Taylor's parents, Jim and Grace, have since died, and the farm is
now owned by Taylor's sister, Grace Reynolds.
It was on the same property that Taylor built the object most
often associated with the story, a spaceship constructed from 2
satellite dishes. His interest in space travel was
peaked when Star Wars arrived in 1977, and construction of this
UFO like fortress, complete with a wood stove and bed begins soon
after. At first it was all in fun, but
then he built a radio with which he could communicate with aliens
based on the recurring dreams about alien abduction that he
was having. Questions about his well-being
begin to circulate. Keller, now 53, helped Taylor
build the spaceship and maintains that his friend was
anything but suicidal. Granger was the most
intelligent, down to earth, wise man that I have ever met in my
life, said Keller, who with his family was among the last to see
Taylor alive. He maintains he would have known
if Taylor were intending to kill himself.
He wasn't a nut. He was a very intelligent guy
who carried out with his life normally.
But after you say spaceman then all of a sudden he becomes a
nut. Wow.
It's got a picture of him here. It's like his step dad and his
mom. The back door of the Taylor
family home was left unlocked for years in the event that he
would walk through it at some point.
How sad? Shy with a tendency to be
socially awkward. Taylor would could be classified
as an eccentric by some, but that didn't mean he was unhappy.
The common sense of theory that ignores the space travel
hypothesis, however, points to the conclusion that he killed
himself. Taylor's mental health had
reportedly declined in the months leading to his
disappearance, and according to a Vice magazine article written
in 2016, he was taking LSD regularly before he vanished.
It's for that reason that some members of the Taylor family who
participated in the documentary have given up hope he will ever
be found. Let's set the record.
Granger's gone. He's dead, half brother Joseph
Taylor says in the film. He did some amazing things.
Granger had some challenges. He couldn't deal with those
challenges. He took his life.
That's boy. That's an assumption.
I guess. Maybe they knew something we
don't. Not knowing either way is
difficult, is a difficult burden for some to carry, which is why
the Taylor family decided not to have a funeral even after he was
officially declared dead by the coroner in 1986.
The date of his death was listed as November 30th, 1980.
For a number of people we spoke to, this was a chance to go
through their experiences and say goodbye in a very final way.
Horvath said. He's got a picture of him
driving this old antique car here.
Guy does seem to have been some kind of a mechanical genius.
Without further data, however, many believed he could still be
alive. Taylor made a stop at Bob's
Grill near Duncan before journeying to Mount Prevost the
stormy night of his of his disappearance, and neighbors
reported hearing a loud boom around the time he would have
arrived at his destination. OK, it doesn't sound good.
Was it the sound of UFO leave the universe atmosphere or the
sound of a pickup truck being blown up by dynamite?
Duncan was besieged by a historically bad storm that
night, Keller said, so it could have been easily Thunder.
Taylor had told Keller that the aliens would likely arrive when
the weather was bad so they could travel undercover.
Taylor had experience with explosives, and the fact he
reportedly had dynamite in his possession at the time of his
disappearance shouldn't factor into the equation.
Killer said he was too smart to have an accident up on the
mountain. There's no way he knew how to
handle explosives. He was basically an expert, so
when it came to safety, that was his number one priority.
It doesn't work with me. He wouldn't have had an accident
and he wouldn't have done it on purpose.
Horvath said that despite their best efforts, they were unable
to locate the blast site, listed as 600 feet in diameter on the
coroner's report during the filming of Spaceman.
Keller also has questions about the veracity of the evidence.
The police said it was a blue truck, but his truck was a Pepto
Bismol pink. I helped him paint it with my
buddy Darren. He said what they found on the
mountain was not Granger's truck.
They have no actual idea if it was Granger's bones or not.
The ongoing fascination with Taylor is understandable.
If there's anyone who could survive an interstitial journey
and still be alive today, the quick thinking of Mechanic is a
better candidate than most. Whether he went on the journey
into space or died soon after, Keller believes he won't never
see his friend again. And that is a saddening,
sobering thought. He admitted not knowing if he's
dead or is no, but is no better than knowing.
Is it possible that he killed himself?
Keller asked, bringing himself to tears with his answer.
It's really hard to accept that. I know that's a possibility, but
there's all kinds of possibilities.
Even though the film makers spent weeks researching the
story and shooting interviews for Spaceman, Horvath said that
the narrative was left open-ended.
No one has absolute knowledge of the situation, she said.
We couldn't close the book on it.
Definitely. That's really strange.
Kind of a sad case there. You can kind of compare and
contrast these two cases between Granger and sea.
I mean, the one guy seems like a Family Guy.
He's a hunter. He's going up the mountain, he's
looking for deer, doing a little scouting, and then just
disappears to begin with. They they find a body, what a
couple days later, bring the FBI in.
At first they say, well, no cause of death, don't know what
happened. And then we're told later,
possibly cocaine toxicity. Where in the heck did that come
from? I haven't seen the actual,
haven't seen the actual coroner's report on that.
So I don't know either way. But just, you know, just kind of
a lot of cloudy stuff around it. And we also had the reports of
the neighbors there seeing this UFO hover over this mountain,
some kind of frankly, a little sketchy stuff there where it's
reported. And then they had to take it
down at Newport because in consideration of the family, I
guess you always have to take in mind the people that survived
this kind of event. It's got to be just a horribly
tragic situation. So like a lot of these cases,
it's just shrouded mystery and misinformation.
I mean, all we know for sure is we have a guy who's missing, who
is found a couple days later, dead, where people were
searching at just before he was found.
It seems pretty clear cut. This guy, it almost seems like,
it seems clear to me that he was abducted.
But how do I know? I mean, you find his shoe at the
top of the tree. That's really weird.
If that's true, how did that shoe get there?
And then you find the body kind of deposited it in within this
really brushy, thick area where rescuers have to cut and hack
way back to. How did he get back in there?
Odd. And compare that to the case
where you have this kind of maybe somewhat misunderstood
mechanical genius who is really does seem to be fascinated with
UFOs, tells his stepparent and parent that he's going to go
meet this UFO, leaves a note form or whatever and he's never
seen again. Then we end up with conflicting
reports about his truck. You know, what kind of truck it
was, what color it was. Possibly it's been blown to
bits. I discovered 5-6 years later,
more mystery surrounding this thing.
It just leads, it leads to more questions and answers and
whether these things are actually, these disappearances
are actually directly caused by UFO's or the people just had
some sort of strange fascinations with UFO's that
happened to go missing. It doesn't seem like there's
really been a thorough enough investigation and there really
hasn't been enough transparency involved and telling us what
really did happen to these folks who disappeared without a trace.
Until next time. This is UFO warning over now.