1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,040 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,840 In this episode we're talking about a New Mexico Bigfoot 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,040 Roundup. That's correct, a New Mexico 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:16,840 Bigfoot roundup. This first case comes to us from 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,000 2010, September 6th, Los Alamos County location details. 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,080 It says the location was deep in the mountains up Ponderosa Rd. 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,080 which is off the main road and Yumez. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,680 The nearest town is Jamez Pueblo nearest Rd. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,840 Hwy. 50 Highway 550 I believe. Observed. 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,080 My name is Joe when I am 20 years old. 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,160 I recently had an encounter that was completely unexplainable. 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Let me start by telling you the story from the beginning. 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,160 I'm from Albuquerque, NM and the closest camping spot to me are 14 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:55,440 in the Yamez Mountains. A couple of months ago, my 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,760 friend who frequently goes hunting and camping in the Yamez 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Mountains shared a story about an encounter he had there. 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,440 He said he went on a camping trip with his Uncle Mike and his 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,040 family to a spot called The Meadow. 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,280 About an hour before sunset, he and his family heard a loud 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,360 shrieking sound approximately 300 to 400 yards away. 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,840 The sound lasted for about 30 seconds to a minute. 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,280 My friend asked me what kind of animal do you know that has the 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,920 lung capacity to hold a call for that amount of time. 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,800 He said they were sitting around the campfire at sundown and 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,360 there was just enough light to see between the trees on the 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,400 Ridge. He saw something walking upright 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,840 between the trees and didn't mention it to anyone because he 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,400 didn't want to scare his girlfriend, his sisters. 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Later that night they were woken by the same shrieking sound, but 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,680 this time it was up on one of the ridges. 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,880 The noise was so loud that he could feel the base of the 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,800 sound. This shriek lasted about a 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,160 minute and 1/2. When I talked to his Uncle Mike, 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,000 a seasoned backwoods hunter, he was genuinely afraid of the 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,240 campsite, he recounted at a time when he was seven, camping with 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,040 his brother and mother, and whatever was out there scared 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,400 his mother so badly that she packed up and left in the middle 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,920 of the night. We eventually persuaded him to 39 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,640 go camping with us. Last summer, my friend Uncle 40 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:25,480 Mike, my friends Uncle Richard and I went to the very same 41 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,760 campsite where the noises were heard. 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,240 We stayed for five nights, but heard nothing unusual. 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,600 About a month ago, I took my girlfriend to the campsite and 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,520 we stayed a few nights with no incidents. 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,360 However, this past weekend during Labor Day, we had a 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,240 terrifying, unexplainable experience. 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,160 The first night was uneventful, but the second night was 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 something else. My friend was camping miles away 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,280 so we went to visit him. It was getting dark so I told my 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,760 girlfriend we needed to get back to camp. 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,880 We arrived hastily and I immediately started the fire. 52 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:04,200 I felt extremely tense for no apparent reason, which irritated 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,760 my girlfriend. I told her I just wanted to go 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,160 to bed. We packed a lot of wood on the 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,360 fire and went to sleep in the back of my Hummer. 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,040 Sometime later I woke up groggy and noticed a fire had gone out. 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Moments after the light went out I heard something rubbing 58 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,400 against the vehicle on my side. I didn't wake my girlfriend 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,680 because I didn't want to secure. I listened to this for about 10 60 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,960 minutes. It was very dark with no 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,640 moonlight. After about 15 minutes I heard 62 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:35,440 it rub up against the vehicle again. 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,080 I whispered to my girlfriend there was something outside the 64 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,320 Hummer. I told her I don't know what it 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,400 is but I'm going to get the gun. I grabbed my 90mm and turned off 66 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,040 the safety. We listened as it rummaged 67 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,280 around the campsite, tearing through the trash and knocking 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,800 things over. My girlfriend's, sensing fear, 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,080 tried to calm me down. Eventually I accepted that it 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,360 might be a bear, and I felt slightly relieved. 71 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,360 But the noises continued and then the canopy, which was about 72 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,640 6 feet height, was knocked over. My girlfriend saw something 73 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,720 black past the window. Whatever it was, it had to have 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,760 been over 7 feet tall. The next morning we returned to 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,880 the campsite. Everything was mostly in place 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,080 except the canopy was overturned about 20 feet away and the 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,560 chairs were knocked over and it didn't seem like the work of a 78 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,960 bear. I don't drink or use drugs, and 79 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,360 this experience was not just the wind. 80 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,880 I've never felt terror like that night and have only shared this 81 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,640 story with a few people because I don't want to sound crazy. 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,480 I hope I can make sense of what happened under. 83 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,040 Also notice it says I couldn't find any prints around my site. 84 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,480 The evidence was a cow Patty split in half with plants around 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,040 it pressed down. The print appeared to be about a 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,240 foot and a half long. There were no other witnesses, 87 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,440 just my girlfriend and me. My friend's uncle has had 88 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,600 similar experiences. Now the time was approximately 89 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,960 2:00 AM, Extremely dark with calm weather. 90 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,840 The environment was a pine forest with 250 yard ridges on 91 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:15,560 either side, he says. The follow up investigation was 92 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,440 done by BFRO investigator Mike Sedillo, he says. 93 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,040 I spoke with the witness in early October and we set up a 94 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 small expedition to the site of the encounter. 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,640 Myself, my daughter and a fellow New Mexico investigator met the 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,600 witness at a nearby cafe on a Saturday morning and proceeded 97 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,240 to the Meadow to set up camp. Not far from the Meadow, we 98 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,640 found what looked like a track way of a bipedal Animal Crossing 99 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,920 on an old logging Rd. We followed it for six or 700 100 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,240 yards, finding several large elk bones that appeared to have been 101 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:51,080 broken open with a rock. Later that night, my daughter 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,520 thought she saw eyes shine from a thick Grove of trees. 103 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,120 The group worked their way back to the camp and went to bed. 104 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,520 A storm moved in that night and we decided to leave before 105 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,920 getting snowed in. The witnesses were credible and 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,640 I believe the area warrants further investigation. 107 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,400 That's incredible. I'm interested in that track 108 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,360 that they think looks like it was made by bipedal creatures 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,280 and then with the elk bones around that had been broken up 110 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:22,080 by rocks and that's weird, weird stuff. 111 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,520 Very good sighting though. Let's take a look at another one 112 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,440 here. This sighting here happened on 113 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,920 October 14th, 2004. It says Lincoln County New 114 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,400 Mexico location details specifics withheld due to an 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,320 upcoming expedition of this area. 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,800 I believe this is 1 they're going to go take a look at. 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:48,320 It says nearest town Rudoso. It's spelled Ruidoso, nearest 118 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,600 Rd. Highway 37 observed. 119 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,800 My buddy and I have frequented the Canyon for fishing and 120 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,680 hunting over the past three years. 121 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 We are both wildlife majors as Texas Tech and are experienced 122 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,440 big game hunters and fly fishermen. 123 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,280 We followed the trail that begins at the bottom of the 124 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:09,200 Canyon until it disappeared about 1/4 mile up the riverbed. 125 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,520 From there we set up camp in our usual spot which was a Gracie 126 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,720 embankment along the river along the rocky riverbed. 127 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,880 We had been there for three days of fall brook trout fishing and 128 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,200 camping, the nights leading up to the final day war routine 129 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,560 with elk, bugling, raccoons in the Creek bed, and one encounter 130 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,680 with a small black bear that was very curious about us. 131 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,640 Spending time here and in other dense wilderness areas in these 132 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,440 mountains was no problem for us. The final night was bitterly 133 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,400 cold, so we didn't sleep much. I decided to leave camp at first 134 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,960 light to begin fishing, my partner still tired from the 135 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,560 cold night, staying behind to get some rest. 136 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,000 I followed the river upstream on my usual route through the thick 137 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,080 underbrush, fishing all the log jams and deep pools where the 138 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,080 trout gathered. I was probably about a mile 139 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,000 upstream from camp when I entered a steep Canyon filled 140 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,360 with giant boulders and a good sized pool. 141 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,000 I finished there for about 15 minutes before I started to feel 142 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,360 like something was watching me or presents nearby. 143 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,800 The strange thing that frightened me was that the bird 144 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,280 stopped singing and the woods went almost silent. 145 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,400 I then scanned the steep Canyon walls and pine forest and saw 146 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,000 brush and trees Shaking vigorously, I immediately 147 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,520 thought I was about to see a bear. 148 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,799 I slowly moved to the opposite side of the Creek and stared at 149 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:38,480 the area, trying to make out the creature. 150 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:42,919 Everything stopped moving and I quickly started back downriver 151 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:46,240 toward camp. About 10 minutes later, I heard 152 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,040 what sounded like a guttural moan or cry directly across from 153 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,120 the river, as if the creature was trying to scare me. 154 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,080 This, combined with the fact that it had paralleled me 155 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,520 downriver really made me panic. I then ran all the way back to 156 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,560 camp as quickly as I could, spraining my ankle in the 157 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:07,400 process. I am an experienced outdoorsman 158 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,360 with plenty of knowledge of bears and the area, but I have 159 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,880 never seen a bear parallel a human for as long as this 160 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,960 creature did. The cry was definitely different 161 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,400 from any kind of growl or vocalization I have ever heard 162 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,600 from a bear and are also notices I frequent in the area. 163 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,520 For the past three years and last winter I hiked along the 164 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,840 trail with my girlfriend and another friend. 165 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,320 We saw large footprints, probably 18 inches long in fresh 166 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,640 snow. However, since it was the 167 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,080 afternoon and only about 10 yards off the trail, about a 168 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,720 mile and a half, we dismissed it as a joke that somebody had 169 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,800 probably fabricated other witnesses. 170 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,160 I was hiking up the river by myself, but I was with a friend 171 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,400 who had stayed behind to the rest of the main trail about a 172 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,440 mile away from me. Other stories, no. 173 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,880 I'm from Texas and visit the area about 10 or 12 * a year, 174 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,120 but I've never talked to anyone who has gone in that far except 175 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,280 for an Alka hunter on horseback who simply warned me about 176 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,200 bears. It was around 97 AM was when 177 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,960 this whole thing happened. It says the sun was just rising, 178 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,400 but the forest, Canyon, and riverbed were all casting 179 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,760 shadows in some darkness. The environment occurred in a 180 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,520 deep Canyon filled with boulders and pine trees that extended 181 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,800 down to a log jam in the river, which was excellent for brick 182 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,720 trout fishing. The river is probably only two 183 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,080 yards across here. The boulders were huge and 184 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,960 fallen logs crisscrossed the river in the Canyon floor. 185 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,160 The surrounding pine forest is incredibly dense, extending 186 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,560 right up the mountainside. Sounds like just the kind of 187 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:46,560 habitat one of these Bigfoot would be looking for. 188 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Very very cool encounter. This sighting here happened back 189 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,920 in 2001. November says 24th Dona Ana 190 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,800 County there in New Mexico. Location details east of I-25 a 191 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,520 mile or north. A mile or two north of the Fort 192 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:13,240 Selden exit, nearest town Las Cruces, nearest road I25 it 193 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,960 says. We were camping for Thanksgiving 194 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,600 weekend. There were three adults, two 195 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,160 teenagers and two small children. 196 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,120 My 14 year old son was outside at night getting something from 197 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,000 our SUV when he turned and saw what he described as an 8 foot 198 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,240 tall humanoid figure walking S in the half moonlight. 199 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,760 He didn't have a flashlight to get a closer look, but when he 200 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,360 saw it, I'll just call it, he got scared and ran back into the 201 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,040 trailer where we all wore. The weather was fairly cold, 202 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,680 just above freezing if I remember correctly, and it was 203 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:52,480 just after a sandstorm had passed through two days before. 204 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,840 The sky was clear with a few clouds that night. 205 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,440 Once inside, he told us what he saw and we laughed thinking he 206 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,640 was joking. We suggested because of its size 207 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,400 it might have been Bigfoot. I have a friend who has heard of 208 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,680 at least 4 Bigfoot sightings in the mountains over the last 209 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,880 decade. While it is not common to hear 210 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,120 about Bigfoot sightings in the desert, it's not unheard of. 211 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,600 Even though they usually inhabit forested areas, there were many 212 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,920 forested and winded areas within an hour's drive from where we 213 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,800 were, so it's not far fetched to think they might roam around 214 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,960 outside their usual territory on occasion, especially in the dark 215 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,320 of night. After we had a good laugh, my 18 216 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,040 year old nephew took his flashlight and he and my son 217 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,720 stood outside the trailer looking to see if they could 218 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,280 spot the 8 foot tall figure my son had described. 219 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Although they didn't see anything, they suddenly heard a 220 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,840 very loud growl which sounded like a warning or an angry 221 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,720 growl, along with a shuffling or deeking sound like something 222 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,480 scraping in the dirt. It reminded my nephew of a bull 223 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,960 scraping the dirt with his hoof just before charges. 224 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Both boys freaked out and ran inside the trailer, falling down 225 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,600 and slamming the door shut in a panic. 226 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,200 They were yelling that something was outside. 227 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,960 I asked him a series of questions and it was clear that 228 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,880 Derek was completely terrified and absolutely unwilling to go 229 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,880 back outside. I suddenly felt that we were in 230 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,000 danger. We stayed inside, peeking out 231 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,160 the windows with flashlights, trying to see anything. 232 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,160 We locked the trailer door and our friends who sleeps in the 233 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,400 car locked his car as well. The boys drove back to Las 234 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,720 Cruces to spend the night because they were too afraid to 235 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,640 stay and my nephew had to work the next morning. 236 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,520 We didn't check the area until the next morning, but any tracks 237 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,800 from the night before, including our own, had been erased by the 238 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,920 blowing sand. Now under time and conditions, 239 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,280 it says 9:00 PM near freezing temperature. 240 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Environment Bureau of Land Management land. 241 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Hilly, mountainous rocky sand desert. 242 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,480 It's free range land where cattle and other animals 243 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,520 sometimes great as there were plenty of old cow patties 244 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,400 around. It's a popular area for mountain 245 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,560 biking, ATV riding and four Wheeling during the daytime. 246 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,920 No one else was around or camping except us. 247 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:17,280 Near the highway there are some scattered homes, ranches and A 248 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:20,320 food factory. Otherwise it's a hilly and 249 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,080 mountainous area mostly covered with desert vegetation. 250 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,960 Not typical for a Bigfoot habitat. 251 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,440 But we have no other logical explanations for what happened. 252 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,960 And under the follow up investigation, it says there 253 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,840 were five people present during the incident and two 254 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,640 eyewitnesses. The temperature was near 255 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 freezing. There was partial moonlight with 256 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,080 a few clouds. The train is desert with ravines 257 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,840 and mountains visible in the distance. 258 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,480 The two witnesses were a 14 year old and his 18 year old cousin. 259 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,400 They were camping with his mother, grandmother, a family 260 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,160 friend and two small children. Investigator Greg Woolheater 261 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,640 spoke to the 14 year old and his mother on two separate 262 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,080 occasions. The 14 year old said he went 263 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,920 outside the camper to get some soft drinks from the car. 264 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,080 As he approached the car, he saw a large black figure walking on 265 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,960 two legs through a ravine. The figure appeared humanoid. 266 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,440 He could not make out any facial features or details. 267 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,800 He estimated that the figure was around 8 feet tall, as the 268 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,120 shallow ravine it was walking in is 10 feet deep. 269 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Wow, that's a big critter. After the sighting, his cousin 270 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,040 brought a flashlight and walked back out with him. 271 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,480 The tall figure was no longer insight. 272 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,120 After a few minutes, they heard a long loud growl along with a 273 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,920 digging sound. The boy said the digging sound 274 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,960 was similar to what a bull or buck would make when scraping 275 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,560 the ground with this hoof and anger. 276 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,120 The growl was both intimidating and angry. 277 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Wow, amazing. Says here that arrangements were 278 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,000 being made for the witnesses to meet with attendees of the 279 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,400 upcoming New Mexico BFR expedition in late December 280 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,320 2004. Of course, that's been a while 281 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,920 ago, hasn't it? One of the areas targeted by the 282 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,240 December expedition is not far from where this incident 283 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,840 occurred. A small team from the expedition 284 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,360 group will visit the site to look for tracks and a possible 285 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,360 travel route to other areas where sightings have been 286 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,000 reported. And they've been investigating 287 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,720 these things for a long time. Let's look at another one here. 288 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,160 This sighting is somewhat more recent. 289 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,840 It's dated June 30th, 2024. Caterina County, New Mexico, it 290 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,240 says has a coordinates list here at the site and it says the 291 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,800 location is a Meadow between pine forest on each side. 292 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Elevation is about 7000 feet. My son and I are off roading on 293 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,120 the Chloride trail nearest town Gila National Forest. 294 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,200 It says Chloride off road trail observed. 295 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,880 It was drizzling and the creature was standing less than 296 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,480 10 feet from the road at the coordinates I sent. 297 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,960 It was about 25 feet from a single tree. 298 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,360 It had hair that looked like a mop or dreads. 299 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,800 Later when I processed the situation, I realized that due 300 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,760 to the drizzle, its hair was probably matted. 301 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,200 Its nose was very different, with a flat triangular shape and 302 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,480 a perfectly angled bridge. I live in South Texas, about 303 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,400 1000 miles from this location. My son and I were unsure of what 304 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,800 we saw. I only told my wife, but I 305 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,319 couldn't stop wondering if I had just seen a stump. 306 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,840 So we drove back the following weekend, 1000 miles to the exact 307 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,800 spot. There was a print exactly where 308 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,520 we saw that creature and no trees or stumps around. 309 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,000 I have a picture of the print. We were driving about two mph 310 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,240 that night. We must have caught it crossing 311 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,000 the Meadow and it tried to make us think it was a stump. 312 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,680 Myself and my 13 year old son are witnesses. 313 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Other stories. I live in Texas 1000 miles away 314 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,880 so I don't know much about Bigfoot history in this area. 315 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:02,320 Time and conditions. 9:45 PM drizzling 68° clear skies. 316 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:08,120 We were driving a Ford F-150 Raptor with LED headlights and 317 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,880 four fog lights. Boy what a truck. 318 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,920 Meadow between pine forests says over 7000 feet and then the 319 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,760 follow up investigation says this particular case is highly 320 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,920 reliable and it has significant anecdotal value. 321 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,960 It is a landmark encounter. I hope this encounter can be re 322 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,240 enacted on camera someday. I spoke with Earning Aguilera 323 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,200 and his son was nearby to confirm details. 324 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,000 He and his wife are business owners in Texas. 325 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,440 They are credible and certain about what they saw. 326 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,320 They did not expect to gain anything by sharing their 327 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,800 experience in the Gila Mountains. 328 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,840 This occurred during their road trip from Texas to California to 329 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,840 buy a specific dog breed in the Sierras region. 330 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,960 They decided to include some Backcountry adventuring on their 331 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,320 way to California. Erwing has a capable 4 by 4 Ford 332 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:07,280 F-150 Raptor with big tires that can handle Jeep trails. 333 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,960 So they took an ambitious detour, A-150 mile long Jeep 334 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,800 trail through the Gila Mountains, which are probably 335 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,400 the most remote, unpopulated and isolated mountains in America. 336 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Even though this area is in southwestern New Mexico, it is 337 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,600 not desert. Most of it is between 7000 and 338 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,840 10,000 feet in elevation. It is an Alpine forest that 339 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,600 receives plenty of rain from summer monsoons and is abundant 340 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,240 with wildlife by North American standards. 341 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,280 In one sense, there is much to Aguilera's encounter story 342 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,560 because the sighting didn't last very long. 343 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,800 In another sense, however, there is a great deal to his story. 344 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,600 There are two major noteworthy aspects for Bigfoot researchers. 345 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,120 1 relates to the location and to the physical appearance of the 346 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:01,080 creature. The father and son got a closer, 347 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,960 better look at the Bigfoot under strong lights than anyone has 348 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,840 ever had. As far as I know, the Bigfoot 349 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,440 was less than 15 feet away. This occurred after dark at 350 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,320 around 9:30 PM, but the creature was illuminated by the powerful 351 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,600 fog lights of their 4x4 truck. Erring. 352 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,240 Aguilera and his son drove right past the Bigfoot slowly rolling 353 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,040 by on a remote Jeep trail in the Gila Mountains. 354 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,960 They observed the Bigfoot for about 10 seconds as they passed 355 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,640 it. The creature was holding 356 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,440 perfectly still, apparently pretending to be a large stump, 357 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,040 but it was on the right side of the road in drizzling rain. 358 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,720 Irving said it was close enough that his son could have poked it 359 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,960 with a broomstick. That might not have been a good 360 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,520 idea. Both father and son saw the 361 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,880 Bigfoot as they drove by. It took a few seconds for them 362 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,520 to process what they had just seen. 363 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,880 The boy was the first to speak up, asking his dad if he saw 364 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,800 what they'd just passed. Erwin was in shock at the 365 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,080 moment. A feeling of doom hit his skut. 366 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,520 He said that Bigfoot's biceps were bigger than my thighs. 367 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,000 He quickly realized that this huge animal was big enough and 368 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,280 close enough to flip the truck over if it wanted to. 369 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,480 So Erwin kept driving. Anyone would have kept driving. 370 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,840 About 300 yards further down the road, he had to stop and open a 371 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,800 cattle gate. This required stopping, getting 372 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,800 out of the truck, walking to the gate, opening it, walking back 373 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,920 to the truck, driving through, then stopping again to shut the 374 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,600 gate. He was terrified knowing that 375 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,360 thing was out there in the dark watching him. 376 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,600 I wonder why this Bigfoot chose to stand like a stump right next 377 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,480 to the road where it knew a vehicle would be passing soon. 378 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Was it just bad timing, realizing too late that the 379 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,320 vehicle was so close? Irving said they had to come 380 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,800 over and rise before their lights fell on the trees He 381 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,600 passed before noticing the stump. 382 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,720 Or was it an act of intimidation? 383 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,640 Was it trying to show the humans that it was so big that it could 384 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,800 flip that vehicle over? In other encounters, where a 385 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,240 Bigfoot approached a park to pick up truck in the dark, the 386 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,160 creature seemed to be most interested in what was in the 387 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,320 bed of the truck. In one case, a highway worker in 388 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Wisconsin tasked with collecting roadkill from the highways said 389 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,240 his government issued pickup truck was approached from behind 390 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,560 as he parked in the dark. His engine was running and his 391 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,160 tail lights were on. When a Bigfoot walked up and 392 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,240 leaned over the truck bed, it picked up one of the roadkill 393 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,160 deer and walked off into the dark with it. 394 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Wow, I guess you can have that one if you want it, buddy. 395 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,680 Incidents like that lead me to think this Bigfoot was 396 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,160 positioning itself close to the road to see into the bed of the 397 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,080 truck as it passed by. That might tell the Bigfoot 398 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,160 whether the humans were hunting anything. 399 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,000 If there had been a dead deer, elk, bear or some other animal 400 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,720 in the bed of the truck, the Bigfoot might have reached in 401 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,200 and pulled it out and walked away with it, no questions 402 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,560 asked. You know, that's kind of, that's 403 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,840 the kind of predator behavior I can see with these things, being 404 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,640 an apex predator really taking kills from other animals. 405 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,920 I mean, that's what happens in the wild. 406 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,200 It goes on and tells us that Aguilera's close range 407 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,560 observations of the Bigfoot's face under the very bright 408 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600 lights makes them both highly qualified to judge various 409 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,520 depictions of a Bigfoot face and say which ones are more accurate 410 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,120 and which are less accurate. That is a whole separate 411 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:28,840 article. I wrote that article after 412 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000 receiving this report, but for years I had been talking about 413 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,120 the faces popularly associated with Sasquatch's and how they 414 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:39,200 strayed far from the real deal. This will come as a big surprise 415 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,800 to everyone eventually. You will see exactly what I mean 416 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,000 at some point down the line. And then it says here is the 417 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,080 link to the article Evolution of Bigfoot's Face. 418 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,240 Below is a collage of influential depictions discussed 419 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,640 in the article. A lot of really good pictures 420 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880 with this sighting here too. If you if you want to go to 421 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,200 bfro.net and check this out, they've taken a bunch of really 422 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,520 cool images. They've shown kind of how the 423 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,680 makeup people work with Bigfoot, you know, compared to what they 424 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,920 think that the actual Bigfoot looks like. 425 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,640 Really neat stuff. Good maps too. 426 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Good daylight pictures. Got a picture here of the of the 427 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,640 young man sitting next to the Ford Raptor? 428 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,520 Got a picture of dad there not looking for tracks around this 429 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,120 big pine tree, man, Really remote area. 430 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560 Oh, yeah. And here's a looks to me like a 431 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,200 giant Bigfoot track this like, I don't know, man twice the size, 432 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,880 this guy's foot or something. Even got to picture a couple 433 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,320 bears here off in the distance. Yeah, you. 434 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,640 It's clear to me where these people at. 435 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,920 It's not heavily travelled by people. 436 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,400 And I think I just, I tend to want to believe them. 437 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,160 They're just driving along and here's this Bigfoot there, bang 438 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,200 right there on the roadside. What a what an amazing sighting. 439 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,720 OK, we'll look at two more here and then we'll wrap this up. 440 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,600 The date on this one was July 16th, 2011, State New Mexico 441 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,720 County, McKinley County, it says. 442 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,400 Location details. We were on Indian Service Route 443 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,760 32 heading South into the Cheska Mountains about 5 to 8 miles 444 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,880 South of Indian Service Road 32 near Hwy. 134 nearest town Sheep 445 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,680 Springs, New Mexico nearest Rd. Narbona Pass Indian Service 446 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Route 22 Highway 134 observed. It was Saturday, July 16th, 2011 447 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,800 around 12:30 AM. We were heading back to the 448 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,680 Chuska Mountains on the Navajo Reservation for a family 449 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,360 reunion. We had just left the main paved 450 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:43,560 Hwy. through Narbona Pass on Indian Service Route 32 between 451 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,520 Sheep Springs, New Mexico and Crystal, New Mexico. 452 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,240 We went S on dirt road and in Service Route 32 into the Cheska 453 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Mountains about 5 to 8 miles in when we encountered a small hill 454 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480 that curved toward the east and then to the South. 455 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,280 As we approached the hill, the road quickly turned right S. 456 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,400 When we reached the top, we saw the full moon illuminating a 457 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,160 flat green pasture atop the hill. 458 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,320 As we made the turn to the right, SI noticed a large black 459 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,840 figure standing. The full moon was behind it so 460 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,680 all I could see was the silhouette. 461 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,960 I kept my eyes on the figure while making the turn. 462 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,240 I said to my wife. Did you see that? 463 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,760 She replied what? I said Something is standing 464 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,880 over there by the road. As I looked closer, I noticed 465 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,920 the figure was standing by a small pond about 10 to 15 feet 466 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,000 from the road. I could see the figures 467 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,080 reflection in the pond along with the full moon. 468 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,600 When I first saw it, it was about 75 feet away. 469 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,720 As we got closer, our headlights turned into the right away from 470 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,320 the figure, but I could still see it because the moonlight was 471 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,920 so bright. It stood there motionless as if 472 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,200 it was waiting for us to leave. I told my wife I was going to 473 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,480 pull the truck to the side of the road. 474 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,240 The dirt Rd. had been plowed due to the rain creating a Ridge of 475 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,240 dirt on both sides. I pulled the vehicle to the left 476 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,440 toward the Bigfoot to flush my headlights on it. 477 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,960 When the headlights illuminated the Bigfoot, it turned. 478 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:16,080 We saw its legs and arms move and it started running away from 479 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,000 us up a small hill into the trees. 480 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,840 It was a smooth and swift movement, almost ninja like. 481 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080 In less than 5 seconds it disappeared into the trees. 482 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,600 We didn't see any clothing or reflections from buttons, just a 483 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,560 large mass running on two legs. We didn't see any eyes, we 484 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,720 clearly saw the legs and arms, and it was definitely running on 485 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,200 two legs up the hill. We were about 30 feet away when 486 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,440 it ran up the hill. It was not a bear or human. 487 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,120 It was much taller and wider than a person standing at least 488 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,680 7 to 8 feet tall. After it ran away, we were in 489 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,640 shock and sat quietly in the truck for about 15 seconds. 490 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Then suddenly my oldest daughter screamed and said, Daddy, what 491 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,360 was that? I was shocked that she was awake 492 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,400 the whole time. I thought only my wife and I saw 493 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,640 it, but she was terrified, repeatedly asking me, Daddy, 494 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080 what was that? All I could say was that it was 495 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,280 a Bigfoot. My wife and I were not believers 496 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,040 in Bigfoot until now. In fact, we were the biggest 497 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,680 skeptics. But we can't deny what we saw. 498 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,800 It was real. My wife later admitted that she 499 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,920 saw it too, just as we first approached the hill, but she 500 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,360 wasn't sure at the time if it was the same thing I saw. 501 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,600 It was eerie and exciting at the same time. 502 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,200 We returned on Sunday to look for tracks, but there were none. 503 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,440 The ground where it ran up the hill was extremely hard. 504 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Along the pond we saw a hoof, prints of cows, dog prints and 505 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,360 deer prints, but noticeably no Bigfootprints. 506 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,280 The pond was only about 10 to 15 feet wide, a temporary pool from 507 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,640 rain runoff. It seemed like the creature 508 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,520 didn't want to be seen. I believe that if I hadn't 509 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,680 turned my headlights toward it, it would have remained still 510 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,600 until we passed by, then left. It was very intelligent and 511 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,960 seemed to anticipate our movements. 512 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,960 Under witnesses it says 3. Myself, my wife and my oldest 513 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,640 daughter. We were all facing forward and 514 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,920 witnessed it together. Other stories Yes, I have heard 515 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,720 many more sightings have occurred in this area, possibly 516 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,720 due to the fires in the Arizona mountains. 517 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,400 A Navajo Nation Ranger mentioned that more deer, elk and other 518 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,560 animals have been migrated to the Chuska Mountains because of 519 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,160 the fires. Time. 520 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,880 It says 12:30 AM early Saturday morning there was a full moon 521 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440 and the lighting was bright. It had just finished sprinkling 522 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,000 and the roads were damp. The area was mountainous. 523 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,040 The exact location of the siding was a flat green pasture just 524 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,680 above the tree line surrounded by pine forest. 525 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,600 The pool of water, if it was standing by, was runoff from the 526 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,640 rain and then under the follow up investigation it says. 527 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,440 I spoke with the witness by phone 1/13/13 Investigator TF 528 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960 Sieminski. There was a light rain falling 529 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,200 as if toward the subject, the moon shining through the break 530 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,240 in the clouds. They saw something standing near 531 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,600 a pool of water. When the witnesses turned the 532 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,400 lights toward the subject, it began to move. 533 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,040 In the headlights they saw a dark brown hair covered animal 534 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,480 turning away and then running over the hill. 535 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Its movement was smooth and quick, much like a human, and in 536 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,520 seconds it was gone. They discussed what happened and 537 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,120 then moved on. About 3 minutes have passed 538 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,080 since they first saw it. The road continued around the 539 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,960 other side of the hill, but too much time had passed to see 540 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,200 anything. They were compelled to return 541 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200 the next day to look for tracks in the daylight, but 542 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,880 unfortunately the ground was too hard. 543 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,480 The area is around 8960 feet in elevation with clear meadows and 544 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,040 clusters of trees just east of the Arizona border on the Navajo 545 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,840 Reservation. Being Native American and 546 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,160 growing up in this area, the witness had heard many stories 547 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,640 about these animals but was always skeptical until this 548 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760 encounter. I guess it just takes seeing one 549 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,080 of these things to become a believer. 550 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,760 We'll do one more and wrap this up. 551 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,880 So this encounter is dated August 11th to 14th, 2005. 552 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,240 It says Rio Arriba County, New Mexico. 553 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,040 Location details EMS mountains. I hope I'm saying that 554 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,560 correctly. It's JEMMEZ, North Central New 555 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,680 Mexico observed. I am new to this field so I 556 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,400 won't attempt to cover everything related to this trip. 557 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,800 That's for others to discuss. I can only share what I 558 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,160 personally observed and heard. About 25 people attended the VFR 559 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,000 OS Yimez Mountains expedition in northern Mexico a few weeks ago. 560 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,240 Several things occurred during the expedition, but I will only 561 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,960 describe what I personally experienced from where I was 562 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,400 standing or sitting at the time. If you were on this trip and 563 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880 don't see me mentioning other incidents that happen closer to 564 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,720 your positions, please write them up yourself. 565 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,480 This is what I personally experienced. 566 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,840 Pam R, Albuquerque, NM And then it says it's been. 567 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560 Portions have been edited by BFRO editors. 568 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,640 Thursday, August 11th day bright and sunny. 569 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,840 Along with my sister and our two boys, I follow the expedition 570 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,760 group along mountain roads near the first base camp to find 571 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,040 viewpoints over elk grazing areas where the guides could 572 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,160 blast and listen. Several good spots were found 573 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,160 and noted by GPS units. All were at high elevations and 574 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,000 offered breathtaking views across the mountain, forest and 575 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,960 canyons. The guides needed to survey as 576 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,560 many locations as possible while it was still light, so we kept 577 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,440 moving. Most of the time. 578 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,560 We explored these mountains for hours and only passed two other 579 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,040 vehicles in one ranch house. It says the night was rainy and 580 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,600 windy. Most people headed out to the 581 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,160 viewing location visited earlier in the day. 582 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,200 My sister and another lady stayed at the base camp to rest 583 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,120 and listen for sounds in that area. 584 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,320 There was a lot of wind and rain from the West. 585 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720 No animals were heard responding to the blast, not even coyotes 586 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,080 or owls. The decision was made to move to 587 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,760 the east facing slope away from the wind, it says. 588 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,760 We heard some things. Unlike the first blasting 589 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440 location, there was where there was very little wind and rain on 590 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,840 this side of the mountain. The guides mentioned that the 591 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040 east side of the mountain usually receives afternoon rain 592 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,320 from the Gulf of Mexico, but it is sheltered from the storms 593 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,080 blowing in from the West. There was only a slight drizzle 594 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,120 when we arrived at the east slope with patches of fog 595 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,280 hanging in the gullies. MY2 boys, Nick and Will and I 596 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,160 drove past the blasting site about 1/4 mile using the left 597 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,600 fork in the road. At the blasting site, one boy 598 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,240 was asleep in the bed of the pickup truck. 599 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,680 Around the first curve, the headlights illuminated a small 600 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,240 cloud of dust swirling in the road as if an animal had just 601 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,520 left the area in a hurry. We drove slowly through the dust 602 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,480 swirl. The ground was too rocky and 603 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,080 gravely to see any tracks. Not far beyond the dust, a thick 604 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,240 fog bank covered the road. We drove into the fog and pulled 605 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,200 up to a clearing on the left. About 1/4 mile up the road from 606 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,840 the blasting crew. We stopped and turned off all 607 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,400 the lights. Both boys were in the bed of the 608 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,040 pickup truck while I was inside with the windows down. 609 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440 I heard nothing for a while. After a few minutes, the boys 610 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,360 said they heard the sounds of sticks breaking inside the tree 611 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,920 line. The fog was too thick to see 612 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,120 inside the tree line. The source of the sound did not 613 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120 seem to move. There were occasional branch 614 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,400 snapping sounds coming from One Direction. 615 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,760 This lasted for about two minutes. 616 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,199 We could hear the blast from down the road but heard no 617 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,000 responses. After about an hour of hearing 618 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,639 nothing more, we drove back to the blasting team at the 619 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,719 blasting site. I continued to listen for 620 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,199 several minutes. I was very tired and cold by 621 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:41,719 then. I needed to relieve myself and 622 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,480 as I'm female, I turned on a flashlight and walked far enough 623 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,960 away for some kind of privacy. I walked in the opposite 624 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,679 direction of where we had seen the dust swirl in the road. 625 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,920 When I rounded the first curb I was hit by a series of low 626 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000 pitched growls, about 7 or 8 coming from the tree line 627 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,080 directly ahead of me. I stopped for a few seconds to 628 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,280 confirm what I was hearing. The growls were distinct but 629 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,040 very low pitched and barely audible. 630 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,760 I can feel the hum of the growls in my chest and more than I 631 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,320 could hear them. Then there was a louder growl 632 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200 which I could hear much better. That caused me to run back to 633 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,520 the truck in my voice. I went to the truck and 634 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,800 whispered to Nick and Mike that I have been growled at. 635 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,840 We walked back toward where I had heard the growls. 636 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,480 On the way down, Mike stopped me and said he saw movement in the 637 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,840 brush. I heard branches snapping in the 638 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,440 same direction. The three of us moved back to 639 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000 the truck and tried to call the others via walkie-talkie. 640 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480 As I fiddled with the radio, I heard loud moves and bellows 641 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,400 from some cows in a gully below us. 642 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,000 I had the impression they were spooked by something. 643 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,840 I got in the pickup truck to warm up. 644 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,120 Nick walked with Mike Sedello and the others down to where the 645 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,480 leg of a young deer was found in the road. 646 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,760 Will and I stayed bundled up in the vehicle with the windows 647 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,680 down. After 20 or 30 minutes, we heard 648 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,160 a wild clamor fighting coyotes in the woods uphill from us. 649 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,800 Among the coyote sounds was something odd, a strange 650 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,400 yowling. It stood out among the coyotes, 651 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,640 yips and yaps and snarls. It sounded more like a human or 652 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960 an ape. This went on for about 45 653 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,360 seconds and then died down. I think people near the blasting 654 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,560 area recorded it. People were spread out a bit. 655 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:24,040 Other people heard sounds that I did not hear from where I was. 656 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,920 Many were distant sounds somewhere closer. 657 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,920 There were lots of different animal noises in this area, 658 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,520 frogs, coyotes, owls, cattle, elk, etcetera. 659 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,600 Compared to almost no animal sounds near the first blasting 660 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,880 area. It was getting very cold. 661 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,120 Around 2:30 AM the plan for the next day was discussed. 662 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,200 It was obvious that there was a higher concentrations of animals 663 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,360 in this area compared to the first area. 664 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,840 About six or seven people, including myself, insisted we 665 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520 also heard something that was not a known animal. 666 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,560 Everyone agreed that we should focus on this area and move the 667 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,600 base camp closer to it. Friday morning, August 12th, we 668 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,080 packed up base camp #1 everyone helped break camp near the first 669 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,680 blasting location, reloaded it, and relocated it closer to where 670 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,040 the sounds were heard the night before. 671 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,680 Friday night, August 13th, it says at Base camp #2 the guys 672 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,280 recommended that we blast Tahoe Screams and Ohio Howls along 673 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,200 with some other sounds from the base camp that evening because 674 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,000 the sounds were would echo through the area where we were 675 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,040 the night before. They said that if if what we 676 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,720 heard the night before was actually a Sasquatch, the blast 677 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,600 would likely attract it toward the base camp. 678 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,160 After the second blast, a short but distant return call was 679 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,200 heard. It sounded very similar to the 680 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,880 Tahoe recording which was being used for blasting that night. 681 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,120 Some of the others who heard it said over the walkie-talkie that 682 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,440 it might have been a loud echo of the talk of the Tahoe 683 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,240 recording. They radioed Ed to blast it 684 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:53,720 again to see if the echoes could be heard again. 685 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,720 After a few tries, there was agreement that what was heard 686 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,040 originally could not have been an echo because we could not 687 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,920 reproduce it within 30 minutes or so. 688 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,200 Some people said they could hear something walking in the woods 689 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,320 on the north side of the camp. There was some discussion about 690 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,280 how to respond to this without scaring off whatever was 691 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,480 stalking the camp and instead encourage it to come closer. 692 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,600 I didn't hear those sounds myself. 693 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,560 My tent was about 100 yards away from the group. 694 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,160 What they heard at that point later on is for them to tell. 695 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,480 Saturday morning we returned to the blasting area #2 and during 696 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,080 the day and searched the area where Mike and Nick said they 697 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,360 had been paralleled through the woods by something. 698 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,920 We found some freshly overturned Aspen trees and cow bones. 699 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,440 We also found the spot where I believe the growls came from. 700 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,120 There were many possible impressions, but the sound and 701 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,640 leaf litter were too thick to identify any tracks. 702 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,360 The group I was with drove up the road beyond Blasting area #2 703 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,400 and dropped off us, Nick, Will, Mike, Pam and me and Brooke to 704 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600 walk the road downhill. The drivers moved the vehicles 705 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,120 ahead to make various sounds from their positions. 706 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120 They gave warnings over the radios, then made a specific 707 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,760 sequence of sounds they had heard in other areas. 708 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,600 We could hear it clearly from our position. 709 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,880 Everyone stood still on silent, listening for responses. 710 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,960 There was no immediate response. After about 20 minutes, the 711 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,120 sequence was repeated. Within a few seconds, we heard 712 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,520 at least two faint womanish shrieks in the distance. 713 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,720 The shrieks frightened my extremely skeptical sister. 714 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,560 We assured her that those noises were nothing compared to the 715 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,960 ones we had heard the night before. 716 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,960 We listened for another 20 minutes and heard nothing. 717 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,160 It started to rain, so we drove back down to base camp #2 which 718 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,800 is not that far down the hill. Then it finishes up here. 719 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,000 It says blast made from the base camp could be heard from this 720 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,360 area, so we figured we could lure toward the base camp by 721 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,080 blasting a few times. From there we went back and 722 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,880 blasted from the base camp for about an hour. 723 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960 We heard no response, so we turned in for the night. 724 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,360 Well, in our tents, the four of us who were camped furthest away 725 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,680 from the other tents heard whistle noises coming from the 726 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,760 woods on the slope above us. There was more than one 727 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,720 Whistler, and there might have been 3. 728 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,000 They were not whistling continuously, it was an 729 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,720 occasional back and forth exchange, but this one on for 730 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,960 about an hour and we probably heard 30 or 40 different 731 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,120 whistles. They were definitely not elk 732 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,680 whistles and were too variable in tone and pitch to be bird. 733 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040 They sounded more like short, soft human whistles, calling 734 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,880 back and forth to each other as they moved to different parts of 735 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,560 the hillside. I fell asleep eventually, but 736 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,040 then awoke to the sound of two loud, heavy footsteps directly 737 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,720 outside the tent. I thought at first that someone 738 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,320 from the group had come silently and approached our tent and 739 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,600 expected to hear someone call our names. 740 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,200 I whispered to my sister. Did you hear that? 741 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,760 She tapped me on the shoulder twice, which I thought was a 742 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,120 signal to go back to sleep. As it turns out, she was trying 743 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,720 to tell me that she had heard it as well, and wanted me to simply 744 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:04,520 be quiet and listen some more. I went to sleep and heard no 745 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,560 more sounds that night. The next day, several people 746 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,800 took time to look around the hillside where the hills where 747 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,960 the whistles were heard. Several possible tracks had been 748 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,120 found on a different part of the hillside the day before. 749 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,120 More were found on Sunday. Bill and Brooke from San 750 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,880 Francisco cast a few of those tracks and some brush structures 751 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,720 were found and photographed. I'll leave it to the others to 752 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,960 tell about the other things that they heard and saw. 753 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,120 Wow, 20 people all together said environment was pine forest. 754 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,040 That is a really, really I think awesome detailed account of what 755 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,200 this person saw. I don't want these Bigfoot 756 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,160 hunting expeditions almost 20 years ago. 757 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,880 Until next time. This is UFO warning over and 758 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,000 out.