1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,840 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,520 In this episode, we're talking about UFO hotline Mia. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,760 That's correct, UFO hotline Mia. Of course we're talking about 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,200 that UFO hotline that Congress ordered to be installed. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,520 Still haven't seen it. This article comes to us from 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,000 politico.com. The title of the article says 7 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:27,740 UFO Reporting Hotline is Mia. Witnesses say they're frustrated 8 00:00:27,740 --> 00:00:30,580 and feel forced to turn to Capitol Hill or outside groups 9 00:00:30,580 --> 00:00:32,659 to tell their stories. Well, I would definitely 10 00:00:32,659 --> 00:00:35,020 recommend using outside groups. If you can do that without 11 00:00:35,020 --> 00:00:37,940 getting locked up for leaking confidential information, that 12 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:39,460 is. There's a picture here of Tim 13 00:00:39,460 --> 00:00:43,300 Burchett and I believe Representative Luna and a couple 14 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:46,160 other folks. The article is written by Lara 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,600 Seligman and Joe Gould, dated August 10th, 2023. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,120 Now I'll put a link to this at the Buy me a Coffee website. 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,280 As always, thanks to the people that support their program over 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,160 there, it really helps. And you can also find me at 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,680 Twitter, go to at Warning Sub UFO, be sure and like there. 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,600 And last of all, please do like and subscribe on whatever 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,720 platform you're using. It really helps. 22 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:15,270 Now this article says there's no phone number, no e-mail address, 23 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:18,630 not even a website. More than a year since the 24 00:01:18,630 --> 00:01:22,510 Pentagon launched an office to investigate UFO sightings, there 25 00:01:22,510 --> 00:01:25,590 is still no hotline for pilots and others to report mysterious 26 00:01:25,590 --> 00:01:28,510 objects directly to the investigators. 27 00:01:29,150 --> 00:01:32,110 Now the article goes on and says some witnesses say they're 28 00:01:32,110 --> 00:01:36,230 getting frustrated and feel forced to turn to Capitol Hill 29 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:37,470 or outside groups to tell the stories. 30 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:40,710 Others say it discourages them from attempting to flag such 31 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:42,150 incidents. It's at all because they're 32 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:45,550 worried about recrimination if they report to the FAA or 33 00:01:45,550 --> 00:01:48,630 military supervisors. And you know, this crush fellow 34 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:50,270 has said he's been recriminated against it. 35 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:53,270 Now they tell us there is an immense amount of data that 36 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:56,390 could be collected out there from general aviation or 37 00:01:56,390 --> 00:02:00,110 commercial aviation pilots that are afraid to come forward at 38 00:02:00,110 --> 00:02:03,550 this time, said Chris van Voorhees, a commercial airline 39 00:02:03,550 --> 00:02:07,470 pilot who says he regularly sees self luminous orbs high up in 40 00:02:07,470 --> 00:02:10,190 the atmosphere flying in strange formations. 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,640 Van Voorhi said he hasn't reported those through any 42 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:16,640 official channel because the methods for doing so or so 43 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:19,800 opaque. He goes on and says, I'm not 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,480 even sure what they are, to tell you the truth, he said. 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,360 And even if he were to report the incidents, he believes it 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,600 would fall on deaf ears. And we've been doing some 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,520 coverage of this in the podcast about these pilots. 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,000 It just seems like every other day you have report about pilots 49 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:38,690 who see these UFOs and we're going to take a look at some 50 00:02:38,690 --> 00:02:40,970 more of these here in these next couple articles that we're 51 00:02:40,970 --> 00:02:43,450 looking at. But the fact is this pilot's not 52 00:02:43,450 --> 00:02:46,810 alone and it's at the point I think that if these guys would 53 00:02:46,810 --> 00:02:49,890 just release their sightings just right now what they saw and 54 00:02:49,890 --> 00:02:53,290 anonymously release them even to something like move on or what, 55 00:02:53,290 --> 00:02:55,410 what's the one called that? We always look at the UFO 56 00:02:55,410 --> 00:02:57,970 Sightings Daily. There's different reporting 57 00:02:57,970 --> 00:02:59,970 sites out there, even posted on Twitter. 58 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:03,740 It would get so much more exposure and disclosure than 59 00:03:03,740 --> 00:03:08,140 what you would do going through a government agency now, the 60 00:03:08,140 --> 00:03:11,180 article continues. It says the reporting issues are 61 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:14,260 highlighting the tensions over gathering data on socalled 62 00:03:14,460 --> 00:03:16,620 unidentified anomalous phenomena. 63 00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:20,980 Pilots, wary that they won't be taken seriously, hold back from 64 00:03:20,980 --> 00:03:24,780 saying anything that means information that might identify 65 00:03:24,780 --> 00:03:27,340 objects as benign as foreign surveillance tools. 66 00:03:27,340 --> 00:03:31,470 Or yes, maybe even something extraterrestrial simply isn't in 67 00:03:31,470 --> 00:03:34,270 the system, and may not be for quite a while. 68 00:03:35,230 --> 00:03:40,670 In other words, it looks like a systematic effort by the 69 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:44,550 apparatus that controls things to just cover these things up. 70 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:47,310 And This is why so often you hear when these pilots report 71 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:52,110 these these Ufo's that refer to them as a drone or maybe even a 72 00:03:52,110 --> 00:03:54,950 jet pack. Man, people just don't want to 73 00:03:54,950 --> 00:03:58,510 admit these Ufo's are real. They feel more comfortable 74 00:03:58,510 --> 00:04:01,190 claiming to see a man wearing a jet pack just hovering around 75 00:04:01,190 --> 00:04:04,110 for several minutes, far longer than what that jet pack would 76 00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:07,850 likely carry him to report. That UFO as that. 77 00:04:07,850 --> 00:04:10,810 Or as in Peru, all those weren't aliens. 78 00:04:10,810 --> 00:04:14,370 Those were a gang of Colombians or you know, Brazilians riding 79 00:04:14,370 --> 00:04:16,850 around our jungle and jet packs. And how ridiculous is that? 80 00:04:17,089 --> 00:04:20,850 They'd really say that and say, well these are just some some 81 00:04:20,850 --> 00:04:23,970 types of strange entity or UFO we can't, we can't identify. 82 00:04:24,370 --> 00:04:26,850 The word unidentified just seems to freak them out. 83 00:04:27,250 --> 00:04:30,170 The article Gazanin says the all Domain Anomaly Resolution 84 00:04:30,170 --> 00:04:33,170 Office, which was launched by the Biden administration in July 85 00:04:33,170 --> 00:04:37,490 of 2022 to investigate UAP sightings, has made strides in 86 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:40,290 recent months to set up internal channels for service members to 87 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:43,690 report such incidents. Now this author has just made a 88 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:46,970 statement here that I believe is completely false and they offer 89 00:04:46,970 --> 00:04:52,650 no proof of in May, the military service and geographic combatant 90 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:56,920 commands for the first time standardized UAP reporting and 91 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,080 require the information to be transferred to a ARO, Pentagon 92 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,680 spokesperson Susan Gal said in an e-mail. 93 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,200 The group is also working to expand UAP reporting the rest of 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,120 the government, including the Weather and Oceanic Agency, 95 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,080 NOAA, the Coast Guard, FAA and Department of Energy, she said. 96 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Well, are they trying to create a way to disseminate this 97 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,200 information or or just a bottleneck where they can just 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,600 throw it all in the to the circular file and it is taking 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,920 them a year to set up the hotline? 100 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,580 I think we know the answer to that goes honest as one of 101 00:05:26,580 --> 00:05:31,100 Errol's first efforts has been to established a streamline. 102 00:05:31,420 --> 00:05:34,540 One of Errol's first efforts has been to establish a streamline 103 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:37,500 reporting system for all service members, Gal said. 104 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:41,460 I see 0 proof of that. I don't see one thing that they 105 00:05:41,460 --> 00:05:44,540 can show me that that just show me that that statement is true. 106 00:05:44,860 --> 00:05:48,980 Not one thing they say. The FAA also documents UAP 107 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:52,100 sightings whenever a pilot reports them to an air traffic 108 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,850 control facility. According to a statement from 109 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:58,490 the agency, if the incident is cooperated with supporting 110 00:05:58,490 --> 00:06:02,690 information such as radar data, the FAA shares it with a row a 111 00:06:02,770 --> 00:06:04,930 ARO. Now look, we just talked about 112 00:06:04,930 --> 00:06:08,530 those sightings yesterday and I played the the radio 113 00:06:08,530 --> 00:06:11,090 conversation back and forth with aircraft and control with you 114 00:06:11,090 --> 00:06:13,730 had what, four different pilots, 3 pilots clearly saw. 115 00:06:13,770 --> 00:06:17,250 The UF O's 1 pilot was kind of him hauling around. 116 00:06:17,450 --> 00:06:19,770 It was pretty evident to me that he did see him but didn't really 117 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:23,360 want to talk about it. That wouldn't have been reported 118 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,560 because according to the air traffic control, nothing was 119 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,760 showing up on radar. So we know a lot of these UFO 120 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 reports, the UF O's don't show up on radar. 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Who knows why, but how we going to be able to figure out what's 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,880 causing them to show up on radar if the FAA doesn't bother to 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,240 share their reports with a ARO when they don't show up on 125 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,120 radar. So you can just see how these 126 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,980 just a multitude of agencies by of the federal government are 127 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:56,180 being used to just like I said bottleneck bottle up and and 128 00:06:56,180 --> 00:06:59,740 just contain these UFO reports. They treat these reports like 129 00:06:59,740 --> 00:07:02,060 they're cancer or something goes on that says. 130 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:05,900 But that hasn't been enough yet to counter suspicion on the part 131 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:09,100 of those who witnessed strange phenomena, especially following 132 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:11,500 a whistleblower's explosive accusations that the US 133 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:14,260 government is covering up a decades long program to reverse 134 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:17,580 engineer alien craft. The former U.S. intelligence 135 00:07:17,580 --> 00:07:21,220 officer, retired Major David Grush, claim during the July 136 00:07:21,220 --> 00:07:24,900 hearing that the US has recovered non human biologics 137 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:28,420 from alleged crash sites. Well of course if they would 138 00:07:28,420 --> 00:07:31,220 cover up UFOs, why wouldn't they cover up you know, alien 139 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:33,140 entities? The Pentagon has denied the 140 00:07:33,140 --> 00:07:36,620 claims at the same time and has encouraged witnesses to come 141 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:40,060 forward with any information related to the effort to 142 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:44,140 investigate UA P's, but it's not yet provided public Ave. to do 143 00:07:44,140 --> 00:07:46,180 so. So you can see what's happening 144 00:07:46,180 --> 00:07:50,010 here. They're just, you know, saving 145 00:07:50,010 --> 00:07:51,770 face. They're just putting these 146 00:07:51,770 --> 00:07:54,610 little announcements out there and they're not doing anything. 147 00:07:54,610 --> 00:07:58,130 It's just straight up mafioso. I mean, just going to smile on 148 00:07:58,130 --> 00:08:00,890 your face. Let me tell you something, don't 149 00:08:00,890 --> 00:08:02,450 get in the front seat of the car, OK? 150 00:08:02,890 --> 00:08:06,730 Arrow is required by law to launch a public facing website 151 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:11,130 where witnesses can directly report potential UFO sightings. 152 00:08:11,450 --> 00:08:14,210 But the website is tied up in Pentagon red tape. 153 00:08:14,650 --> 00:08:18,980 It is still under development after officials submit a first 154 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:22,820 version to Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks for 155 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:25,340 review before Christmas, Gal said. 156 00:08:25,980 --> 00:08:30,980 So it's still tied up in red tape under development. 157 00:08:31,460 --> 00:08:34,380 Let me tell you, these guys got access to the best computer 158 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:36,780 programmers in the world. There's no reason why this thing 159 00:08:36,780 --> 00:08:38,980 couldn't have been done a year later. 160 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:42,140 Why not just say, hey, we're going to subcontract this out to 161 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:44,220 one of the many UFO reporting websites? 162 00:08:44,780 --> 00:08:47,440 It'd be simpler. The existing reporting 163 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,080 mechanisms only received two or three reports a month, said 164 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Lieutenant Graves, the first active duty military pilot to 165 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,240 come forward with his experience seeing a UAP that's UFO in 2018. 166 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Graves recently founded a nonprofit group to support other 167 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,960 pilots who see things they can't explain. 168 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,680 Americans for Safe Aerospace. Van Voorhees is also working 169 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:14,560 with the group, and Graves said he himself gets the same number 170 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,900 of reports every couple of days arguing this is evidence that 171 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:21,380 pilots either don't know how to use those avenues or are fearful 172 00:09:21,380 --> 00:09:23,460 of doing so. Like, these guys are smart 173 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:25,740 enough to fly a jet airplane. I think they're smart enough to 174 00:09:25,740 --> 00:09:28,900 know how to use a website, and they probably don't want to have 175 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:32,060 their name attached to a government database. 176 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:33,460 Who knows what could happen to him? 177 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:36,860 Graves and others in his organization are working with 178 00:09:36,860 --> 00:09:42,320 lawmakers and officials in the Pentagon at a point, if you know 179 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,600 how, how long can you work with the people that that seem to be 180 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,120 responsible for the problem. In some cases Graves has 181 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,720 introduced witnesses to trusted senators who he declined to 182 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,200 name. And the next step is to arrange 183 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,080 meetings with a ARO just more the same man. 184 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,600 You're just, you know it's just like, well we've been going down 185 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,480 this dead end so we're going to go a little further. 186 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,420 We are handwalking people in to do that because a ARO is 187 00:10:08,420 --> 00:10:11,740 negligent on having the proper public facing procedures to have 188 00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:13,380 people do it themselves, Grave said. 189 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:18,660 You know, he seems like a smart enough guy, but shouldn't he be 190 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:21,980 able to figure out that if ERA wanted to talk to these people 191 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:25,580 that they could make it easy to talk to these people? 192 00:10:25,860 --> 00:10:27,660 You wouldn't have to walk him into the office? 193 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:30,700 Why not walk them online? Have him follow a report with 194 00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:33,140 MUFON or like I said, UFO sightings. 195 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:36,260 The UFO Sightings USA are the one that I talk about here all 196 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:37,870 the time. There's a bunch of them out 197 00:10:37,870 --> 00:10:41,470 there. Once established, we will issue 198 00:10:41,470 --> 00:10:45,510 guidance for how to access a secure mechanism for authorized 199 00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:48,990 reporting, Gao said. Did you catch what she said 200 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:50,990 there? Authorized reporting? 201 00:10:51,390 --> 00:10:54,310 In other words, these people are being told to shut their mouth 202 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:57,670 and not say anything until they're told that they can talk. 203 00:10:58,190 --> 00:11:04,070 They don't want any of the good, really exciting encounters 204 00:11:04,390 --> 00:11:07,010 talked about because those are the ones that gets people 205 00:11:07,010 --> 00:11:09,650 attention. And once you have people's 206 00:11:09,650 --> 00:11:14,210 attention about this UFO, they might might not likely, but they 207 00:11:14,210 --> 00:11:18,930 might demand that their government overlords do 208 00:11:18,930 --> 00:11:21,770 something about this. Because Donna says. 209 00:11:21,770 --> 00:11:26,050 The delay, however, is providing space for confusion to build and 210 00:11:26,050 --> 00:11:29,890 means the military may be missing out on important Intel 211 00:11:30,010 --> 00:11:34,560 of the non alien variety, said Steven Aftergood, A secrecy 212 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,720 specialist with the Federation of American Scientists. 213 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,200 Secrecy specialist. That's interesting. 214 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,600 There are some serious questions that remain unresolved because 215 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,320 of the sensational and nonsensical claims, Aftergood 216 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 said. One is whether US airspace is 217 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 being penetrated by foreign aircraft, such as the Chinese 218 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,320 balloons that made headlines earlier this year. 219 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,840 I thought there was just one balloon and three UFO's anyway, 220 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,440 says if and when that ever happens, the government and the 221 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 military need to know it instantly, not days or weeks 222 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,800 later, He said Any reluctance by military pilots to report 223 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,480 sightings or by authorities to receive such reports would be a 224 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,120 dereliction of duty. It's not clear that new 225 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,000 procedures are required. People have to do their jobs. 226 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,440 I'm not so sure about that. You know, we've known for years 227 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,640 that they have 3D radar, basically. 228 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,540 Maybe they've already got these things tracked in real time, and 229 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:32,460 what the pilot's giving them is just secondhand knowledge as far 230 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:37,580 as they're concerned, you know? Meanwhile, those questions have 231 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:41,580 become conflated in the public domain with foolishness about 232 00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:44,540 alien spacecraft, nonhuman biologics, and so forth. 233 00:12:44,820 --> 00:12:47,380 It's an embarrassment and a disservice, he said. 234 00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:49,500 Well, this is somebody that seems to me like they're 235 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:52,860 probably incredibly pompous and arrogant and really don't have 236 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:56,420 anything that's valuable to add to the conversation. 237 00:12:56,900 --> 00:13:00,710 The The kind of kind of attitude that once you shut up and sit 238 00:13:00,710 --> 00:13:03,590 down and not pay attention to what you saw hovering over the 239 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:06,990 neighbor's house last night. The administration's handling of 240 00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:10,150 these incidents is also offering fuel to its most vocal credits. 241 00:13:10,510 --> 00:13:14,630 Representative Tim Burchard, Republican Tennessee, whose 242 00:13:14,630 --> 00:13:17,590 concerns sparked last month's House Oversight Subcommittee 243 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:20,390 hearing focused on UF. O's, said he doesn't even trust 244 00:13:20,390 --> 00:13:23,950 the military to handle reports through existing methods or even 245 00:13:23,950 --> 00:13:27,010 directly to the a ERO. When that becomes possible. 246 00:13:27,010 --> 00:13:29,650 He says pilots he's spoken to have face retribution for 247 00:13:29,650 --> 00:13:32,210 reporting incidents to their superiors. 248 00:13:33,450 --> 00:13:35,770 Wow, One good man speaks the truth. 249 00:13:35,850 --> 00:13:38,770 I mean, that's so refreshing. You hear that so little in 250 00:13:38,770 --> 00:13:41,210 Washington. It's just amazing to me when one 251 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:44,450 of these, when one of these representatives can come out and 252 00:13:44,450 --> 00:13:47,450 actually tell us what's going on to just a little bit of the 253 00:13:47,450 --> 00:13:48,730 degree. Yeah, they're all liars. 254 00:13:49,010 --> 00:13:50,210 It's nice. It's nice to hear someone 255 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:54,030 confirm that to us, he says to Bircher, the Pentagon is a 256 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:57,590 wasteful, warmongering and unaccountable arm of the 257 00:13:57,590 --> 00:14:00,190 government that's been dishonest about UF O's. 258 00:14:00,430 --> 00:14:02,870 He doesn't see the point in speaking with a ERO or 259 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:05,230 recommending any service member to do so. 260 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:09,190 Man, I like that guy. The problem when they do that is 261 00:14:09,190 --> 00:14:12,830 this is these very brave pilots are criticized or pulled off the 262 00:14:12,830 --> 00:14:15,470 flight line and they're not debriefed. 263 00:14:15,470 --> 00:14:18,070 They're interrogated sometimes for up to 8 hours, said 264 00:14:18,070 --> 00:14:19,390 Burchett. Said Burchet. 265 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:22,350 And then they get a blemish on their record. 266 00:14:22,670 --> 00:14:25,830 So just like Gresh said, they're being intimidated, threatened, 267 00:14:26,510 --> 00:14:28,990 hurt. The Defense Department did not 268 00:14:28,990 --> 00:14:32,270 immediately respond to a request for comment on how pilots were 269 00:14:32,270 --> 00:14:36,430 treated when they made reports. For its part, Aero is tracking 270 00:14:36,430 --> 00:14:38,870 more than 650 cases of UAP sightings. 271 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:43,990 I would have to strongly disagree with the way they frame 272 00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:47,430 this, that they're tracking 650 cases. 273 00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:51,820 I think they've got their the files on 650 cases and they're 274 00:14:51,820 --> 00:14:53,780 trying to keep them as quiet as possible. 275 00:14:53,780 --> 00:14:56,340 That's what I think it's almost like back with we had Project 276 00:14:56,340 --> 00:14:58,620 Drudge, Project Blue Book. They're not there for 277 00:14:58,620 --> 00:15:01,220 disclosure. They're for enclosure. 278 00:15:01,460 --> 00:15:03,660 They're going to enclose the data so you can't see it. 279 00:15:04,540 --> 00:15:07,820 As of April 27th, the office had interviewed nearly two dozen 280 00:15:07,820 --> 00:15:12,660 witnesses, Gal said at the time. And I think interview might be 281 00:15:12,660 --> 00:15:16,020 an extremely liberal interpretation of what happened 282 00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:16,940 there. Based on what some of the 283 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:18,930 witnesses said. It was almost like a a phone 284 00:15:18,930 --> 00:15:20,610 call out of the blue. Hey, how you doing? 285 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:23,570 And the first thing out of their mouth was don't tell us about 286 00:15:23,610 --> 00:15:25,450 any of the other people that were there. 287 00:15:26,170 --> 00:15:28,330 What? That's not an investigation. 288 00:15:29,690 --> 00:15:32,850 Arrow welcomes the opportunity to speak with any former or 289 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:35,410 current government employee or contractor who believes they 290 00:15:35,410 --> 00:15:37,810 have information relevant to the congressionally mandated 291 00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:41,170 historical review, Got Gal said in an e-mail. 292 00:15:42,170 --> 00:15:45,810 Yeah, they sure seem like it. Those words feel empty to people 293 00:15:45,810 --> 00:15:48,810 like Van Voorhees, the commercial pilot who said he 294 00:15:48,810 --> 00:15:52,370 first saw a strange and unidentifiable object almost two 295 00:15:52,370 --> 00:15:54,530 decades ago while flying from Japan to Hawaii. 296 00:15:54,930 --> 00:15:58,730 At the time, he and others who witnessed the event agreed not 297 00:15:58,730 --> 00:16:02,010 to report it because they feared for their careers. 298 00:16:03,450 --> 00:16:08,370 And how could you blame them? Agreed not to report it because 299 00:16:08,370 --> 00:16:11,290 they feared for their careers. It's just so easy not to report 300 00:16:11,290 --> 00:16:16,370 this stuff, van Vorhis said. He advises other pilots to 301 00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:20,250 report sightings to outside groups that collect data on UAP, 302 00:16:20,250 --> 00:16:24,810 specifically, the National Aviation Reporting Center on 303 00:16:24,810 --> 00:16:28,650 Anonymous Phenomena, A nonprofit focused on aviation safety 304 00:16:28,650 --> 00:16:32,770 related encounters with UA P's, and the Mutual UFO Network. 305 00:16:32,770 --> 00:16:36,490 Move On, another nonprofit composed of civilian volunteers 306 00:16:36,970 --> 00:16:38,890 who study reported UFO sightings. 307 00:16:39,270 --> 00:16:41,710 Like I said, when I had my experience I reported it to you 308 00:16:41,790 --> 00:16:47,430 to move on and had a really nice fellow contact me. 309 00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:51,190 Had a long conversation with him a couple times and he really 310 00:16:51,190 --> 00:16:54,550 did, I think an excellent job investigating it and and helping 311 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:57,670 me to to get my mind around what I'd saw was just so weird. 312 00:16:58,430 --> 00:17:01,830 His goal, Van for his says, is to make sure that people that 313 00:17:01,830 --> 00:17:05,270 are working with me know they aren't crazy for seeing this 314 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:08,069 stuff and that they won't be treated as such. 315 00:17:08,540 --> 00:17:11,980 I think that's the most important thing, at least from 316 00:17:11,980 --> 00:17:13,859 my experience. If you have somebody who is a 317 00:17:13,859 --> 00:17:18,339 nonbeliever, and I was, and they suddenly have an impactful 318 00:17:18,339 --> 00:17:21,619 experience like I did, it's nice. 319 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:27,780 It's productive for them to have somebody there to hand them a 320 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:31,060 flashlight when they're looking down the rabbit hole and when 321 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:33,420 they call Mufon. At least my experience. 322 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,580 I don't know about anybody else, but my experience was the person 323 00:17:35,580 --> 00:17:37,620 was very helpful. They assured me that I wasn't 324 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:40,480 crazy. We had a we had a detailed 325 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,800 conversation about what I saw and I was able to understand a 326 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,120 little bit better that, you know, this thing wasn't a 327 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,800 government project, it wasn't a drone, it wasn't a weather 328 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,920 phenomenon. OKI was able to quickly rule out 329 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,760 the things that it wasn't. And then because the person was 330 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,240 so understanding on the other end of the line, I was able just 331 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,560 to kind of gather myself enough not to drive myself crazy about 332 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,880 being confronted with my non belief in these things. 333 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,120 You know it could make you a little bit it could make you a 334 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:14,520 little bit anxious to have this happen, to think wow I just 335 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,000 there was no there was no space in my reality for it. 336 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,800 But I thought MUFON did a good job of helping you to find that 337 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,960 space just to be comfortable with as best you could be that 338 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,560 wow, I've seen this thing. It was a UFOI can't explain it, 339 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,760 probably never going to be able to explain it. 340 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,680 And at the same time, that doesn't mean I'm crazy, and it 341 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,080 doesn't mean I have to drive myself crazy thinking about it 342 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:38,260 now. This text article is from the 343 00:18:38,260 --> 00:18:42,460 debrief.org written by Micah Hanks, August 29th, 2023. 344 00:18:42,460 --> 00:18:45,500 It says pilot UFO sightings collected by NASA reveal serious 345 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:48,860 safety concerns over objects in the US airspace. 346 00:19:28,490 --> 00:19:32,050 The pilot states that the object was observed close to the 8:00 347 00:19:32,050 --> 00:19:34,650 position on the captain's side of the aircraft at the same 348 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:39,650 altitude of 25,000 feet above mean sea level, or FL-250. 349 00:19:40,090 --> 00:19:43,010 At the time the first visual contact was made. 350 00:19:43,450 --> 00:19:46,250 The object of the aircraft seemed to maintain its track, 351 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:48,610 moving to the 7:00 position relative to the reporter's 352 00:19:48,610 --> 00:19:51,450 aircraft, at which time it was no longer deemed a potential 353 00:19:51,450 --> 00:19:53,970 threat. So he's flying along at 25,000 354 00:19:53,970 --> 00:19:55,970 feet, looks at the window and sees this thing. 355 00:19:57,050 --> 00:20:00,130 The object, which could not be identified by the pilot, was 356 00:20:00,130 --> 00:20:03,810 described as potentially being some kind of large unmanned 357 00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:09,610 aerial vehicle UAV or possibly a single ship military fighter 358 00:20:09,650 --> 00:20:13,370 slash trainer aircraft, which the pilot judge to have been 359 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:16,810 traveling at at least 200 knots. So you can tell how these guys 360 00:20:16,810 --> 00:20:19,400 are so. Intimidated not to report these 361 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,680 thing as just just use the word UFO. 362 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,920 It's flying, it's some kind of vehicle and it's unidentified. 363 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,840 But instead they say things like, well, it could have been 364 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,960 some sort of strange unmanned aerial vehicle. 365 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,360 So these are code words like swamp, gas, planet, Venus, 366 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:40,480 whatnot. I like the point though, he 367 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,160 says. A single ship military fighter, 368 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,920 a ship how many how many people describe it airplane as a ship. 369 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,000 A TC that's that is would be the ground control was interested in 370 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,120 the visual report since they were not talking with the 371 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:58,200 aircraft nor where if it's presence apart from the small 372 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,000 primary radar return and it was not transmitting an ADSB out 373 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,920 signal despite the clash despite the Class A airspace 374 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,960 requirements report states. Yeah, I don't think that UF O's 375 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:17,080 are really all that interested about sending out the. 376 00:21:17,540 --> 00:21:20,300 Sending out the necessary call signs doesn't seem to be high on 377 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:22,700 their agenda. Since the publication of Federal 378 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:31,460 Regulation 14 CRCFR 91.225 and 14 CFR 91.227 in May of 2010, 379 00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:34,820 the Federal Aviation Administration has required any 380 00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:38,380 aircraft operating in Class A/B and C airspace to be equipped 381 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:41,580 with automatic Dependent surveillance broadcast 382 00:21:41,580 --> 00:21:44,000 capability. In other words, you got to be 383 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,600 able to broadcast where you're at. 384 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,920 And that's what's so strange about these UF O's. 385 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,840 They're never broadcasting where they're at. 386 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,440 The jet man pack in LA didn't put out a broadcast, never has 387 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,960 never have found that guy if he exists. 388 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,600 So. So what's what's happening here? 389 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,440 This phenomena represents a significant threat to operation 390 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,880 given the potential for a midair collision without the ability to 391 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,720 react to a TC. S2 Resolution Advisory is 392 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,590 trained for the given scenario, the pilot summary of the 393 00:22:14,590 --> 00:22:17,670 incident also states, referencing the Traffic Alert 394 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:22,190 and Collision Avoidance system aviators rely on for 395 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:25,470 instructions on the avoidance of traffic conflicts. 396 00:22:25,790 --> 00:22:28,950 The recommended maneuvers provided by CC AS22, known as 397 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:32,590 Resolution Advisories or RA's, allow pilots the ability to 398 00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:35,430 increase or maintain their vertical separation from other 399 00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:39,510 aircraft operating nearby, and may instruct aviators to climb 400 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:43,330 or descend and altitude, as well as adjust their vertical speed 401 00:22:43,330 --> 00:22:46,610 to avoid possible collisions. But here's the problem. 402 00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:49,970 If one of these UF O's shows up in an area where there's a lot 403 00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:53,650 of aircraft around, what do the pilots do? 404 00:22:54,050 --> 00:22:57,210 If they try to avoid it, it might send them into the path of 405 00:22:57,210 --> 00:23:01,570 another airplane. So see how these things, even if 406 00:23:01,570 --> 00:23:04,370 they don't have ill intentions toward us, just the fact that 407 00:23:04,370 --> 00:23:07,810 they're in the area and there are other aircraft around, they 408 00:23:07,810 --> 00:23:12,680 could cause it a traffic jam. So it's important, like this 409 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,840 pilot says to admit these things are real. 410 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,560 They're here, pilots are seeing them and they are a safety 411 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,760 concern, OK. And even if they were a drone or 412 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,800 swamp gas or whatever you want to call them that, that needs to 413 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,240 be addressed by the federal government because the federal 414 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,400 government is in charge of this, you know, basically what's an 415 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,760 air highway system? And what we're talking about 416 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,640 here is avoiding collisions between UFOs and airplanes and 417 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:42,230 airplanes and other airplanes as they respond to these UF O's. 418 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:44,750 And what is our government doing about this? 419 00:23:45,070 --> 00:23:47,030 Well, they haven't done a thing in the last year. 420 00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:49,630 Where's the hotline at? That's what we're getting to. 421 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:53,910 There is a present and clear issue with these things simply 422 00:23:53,910 --> 00:23:56,390 because we have to occupy the same airspace with them. 423 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:59,870 Pilots are asking for direction and they're being given the 424 00:23:59,870 --> 00:24:02,310 runaround, effectively being ignored. 425 00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:08,090 Another intriguing report says log with a SRS in February of 426 00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:12,970 2023 describes a multiple pilot observation of a fast moving 427 00:24:12,970 --> 00:24:16,090 elongated white object. Sounds like a Tic Tac. 428 00:24:16,770 --> 00:24:21,170 The incident report states that the pilot observed unexplained 429 00:24:21,170 --> 00:24:25,850 phenomena at my 2:00 at what appeared to be near my altitude 430 00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:27,930 or above. I am not sure the distance. 431 00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:31,010 At first I thought it to be a reflection in my windscreen, but 432 00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:35,490 after moving my head around and point of view the object stayed 433 00:24:35,530 --> 00:24:37,590 steady. So it was there was no 434 00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:40,150 reflection. The object appeared rectangular 435 00:24:40,150 --> 00:24:43,470 or op long and Milky white, the pilot stated. 436 00:24:43,870 --> 00:24:46,990 My first officer returned from the forward lavatory and 437 00:24:46,990 --> 00:24:50,310 observed the object moving briskly southbound with me. 438 00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:55,230 After I asked him what is that it moved at a steady speed 439 00:24:55,550 --> 00:24:59,390 southbound and disappeared, he says. 440 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:03,030 I regret not taking a video but was taken by what I was seeing, 441 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:05,380 the pilot added about the fleeting encounter. 442 00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:07,780 Within minutes, the pilot said they received a radio 443 00:25:07,780 --> 00:25:12,660 communication from a nearby ARTCC asking if anyone had seen 444 00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:16,780 the light or object. I informed them I had and got a 445 00:25:16,780 --> 00:25:20,340 phone number to AZZZ controller, the reporter states. 446 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:25,580 And then it says ZCZ is a placeholder designation used to 447 00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:28,460 report identify recognizable locations and other features. 448 00:25:28,780 --> 00:25:30,940 Then it goes on. It says another flight captain 449 00:25:30,940 --> 00:25:33,790 by my friend. And also what also witnessed the 450 00:25:33,870 --> 00:25:36,790 unidentified aerial phenomenon along with numerous other 451 00:25:36,790 --> 00:25:38,110 aircraft. The pilot Rd. 452 00:25:38,550 --> 00:25:42,110 I have never witnessed anything like it in almost 30 years of 453 00:25:42,110 --> 00:25:45,750 flying, 30 years of flying. First time you've seen something 454 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:48,430 like this and they're reporting it. 455 00:25:49,310 --> 00:25:52,430 But what's ending it, what what's ending up with with the 456 00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:55,270 reports, it's just like they're just putting limba somewhere and 457 00:25:55,270 --> 00:25:57,590 that's what they want. Now it goes on talks a little 458 00:25:57,590 --> 00:26:01,080 bit about this system that NASA's, you know, does this 459 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,840 investigation of the FAA. I'll tell you something, it's 460 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,480 just to me, it's just one big game of round and round. 461 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,200 Here's a here is a incident here that happened. 462 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,040 It says unrecognizable objects in erratic movements. 463 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,520 And another incident reported to the ASRS in May of 2022. 464 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,080 A pilot instructor described being forced to take evasive 465 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,160 action to avoid a midair collision with an object they 466 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,880 were unable to identify during a routine training flight. 467 00:26:31,420 --> 00:26:34,420 Now, the reporter says while we were clearing the area for 468 00:26:34,420 --> 00:26:37,660 maneuver, I spotted the unidentified object as we were 469 00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:40,460 quickly approaching it, the pilot's report states. 470 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:43,660 The object reportedly appeared very suddenly and appeared to be 471 00:26:43,660 --> 00:26:45,940 hovering without showing any signs of movement. 472 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,660 I immediately took the controls and took evasive action in order 473 00:26:49,660 --> 00:26:52,420 to avoid emitter collision, the pilot states in report. 474 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,960 Initially I mistook the object for something of the lightweight 475 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,680 category or a drone since it did not resemble an airplane or a 476 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,520 helicopter. As we passed the object, I was 477 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560 able to get a decent look at the object and could not identify 478 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,320 what it could possibly be. It then resumed the training 479 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,960 flight in a safe direction. I then resumed the training 480 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,000 flight in a safe direction away from this encounter. 481 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,160 So he's just telling you I don't know what it was. 482 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,680 He doesn't even really give us a good physical description of it. 483 00:27:21,150 --> 00:27:23,750 Another incident reported on December 2021 details the 484 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:26,150 observation of an unusual flashing light, the movement of 485 00:27:26,150 --> 00:27:28,230 which appeared to be inconsistent with normal 486 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:30,790 aircraft. Unidentified flying object 487 00:27:30,790 --> 00:27:33,470 observed from the ground with very sporadic flight pattern. 488 00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:37,670 Flashing beacon S off the shore. Estimated altitude 3000 to 4000 489 00:27:37,670 --> 00:27:40,590 feet. Object has disappeared twice and 490 00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:44,110 reappeared, the brief reports. Flight pattern is too erratic 491 00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:46,590 and beyond capabilities of traditional aircraft. 492 00:27:46,590 --> 00:27:50,670 Beacon was flashing white, no red, green position lights, the 493 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:52,990 report concludes. So they're seeing these things, 494 00:27:52,990 --> 00:27:54,830 they're reporting them because they know that they're just 495 00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:57,670 extraordinary. They do not conform to normal 496 00:27:58,070 --> 00:28:00,750 manmade objects. Some of the sightings it says 497 00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:04,870 involving unidentified objects were logged with the ASRS as 498 00:28:04,910 --> 00:28:08,030 incidents involving suspected unauthorized drone sites, 499 00:28:08,030 --> 00:28:11,510 although descriptions of their curious appearance of movement, 500 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:14,430 as well as their dangerous proximity to the aircraft for 501 00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:17,590 their highlight the safety issue aviators have faced in recent 502 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:19,850 years. You know, I think we could just 503 00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:23,570 rule out this drone stuff. I mean, if there's that big of 504 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:27,770 problems with drones, you know, around the country, we really, 505 00:28:28,450 --> 00:28:32,370 we we we really need to have more enforcement done. 506 00:28:32,890 --> 00:28:34,810 Because if these are drones, they're going to keep fooling 507 00:28:34,810 --> 00:28:37,930 around until some, at some point we have just a a horrible 508 00:28:37,930 --> 00:28:39,930 collision with one of these things and there's going to be a 509 00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:42,970 great loss of life. So if these are drones, our 510 00:28:42,970 --> 00:28:45,210 government's not doing what they need to do to take these things 511 00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:48,550 seriously, it says. Although unauthorized drone 512 00:28:48,550 --> 00:28:51,830 flights or sightings or of other conventional objects cannot be 513 00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:54,070 ruled out as potential identifications for some of the 514 00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:57,350 objects detailed in their recent ASRI reports the debrief has 515 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:59,670 uncovered, the reports nonetheless convey incidents 516 00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:03,590 involving physical objects of some kind operating at unsafe 517 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:06,910 distances from the aircraft where observing pilots and crew 518 00:29:06,910 --> 00:29:09,870 members were located. Yeah, I don't believe for a 519 00:29:09,870 --> 00:29:13,070 minute that the vast majority of these things, I think, are not 520 00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:15,870 drones. You've had these things acting 521 00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:18,740 and in areas where you have military flights going on, where 522 00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:22,700 you have high congestions of of civilian traffic. 523 00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:24,620 I mean, there's just no end to it. 524 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,020 To think that these things are drones and there's somebody 525 00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:30,300 who's operating with that reckless abandon of human life. 526 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:33,980 It's just it's it's just mindnumbing to me, it says. 527 00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:36,220 Although NASA says it's conducting the study for the 528 00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:39,140 agency's own science and air safety purposes, it remains 529 00:29:39,140 --> 00:29:42,750 unclear whether the independent study team has analyzed UAP 530 00:29:42,750 --> 00:29:45,870 incident reports recently obtained through the ASRS or 531 00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:48,910 from some of the sources that collect similar pilot sightings. 532 00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:50,910 I don't know. It could have just been somebody 533 00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:52,990 with NASA with a little too much time on your hand, decided to 534 00:29:52,990 --> 00:29:54,990 look at some of these things. But you get just what's going on 535 00:29:54,990 --> 00:29:58,990 here. These reporters are report, 536 00:29:59,110 --> 00:30:02,030 excuse me, these pilots are reporting these incidents to the 537 00:30:02,030 --> 00:30:04,390 FAA, you know, the air traffic control. 538 00:30:04,670 --> 00:30:06,750 And then they're just going to be bottled up there and somebody 539 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:09,070 digs around long enough, then they'll find the report online 540 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:10,910 maybe six months or a year later. 541 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Yeah, it's not good enough. The way to do this is to go 542 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,280 public with it. And that's what I want to do 543 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,640 here. I want to look at this last 544 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,760 article I found from WHS b.com. It's a local television station 545 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,880 there in Harrisburg, Harrisonburg, VA And they talk 546 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,320 about a a local Skydaver pilot who reported seeing a drone. 547 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,480 And I think it's great because it shows what happens when the 548 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760 when the pilot can go directly to local news and they put that 549 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,360 on the air and it gets on the Internet. 550 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,930 And then we all know about it now. 551 00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:45,290 The title of this story says Pilot Reports close Encounters 552 00:30:45,290 --> 00:30:48,930 with UFO during 2022 Flight by Jacob Fife. 553 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:50,850 And there's a young guy here standing in front of the screen. 554 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:52,210 He's done a couple things on here. 555 00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:54,850 I think actually does some good work for a local news guy. 556 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:58,210 Like I said, Dateline Harrison, Harrisonburg, VA. 557 00:30:58,570 --> 00:31:01,570 And they begin by saying as long as there have been pilots, there 558 00:31:01,570 --> 00:31:03,890 have been sightings of strange objects in the sky. 559 00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:06,970 Every year, pilots from around the globe claim to see strange 560 00:31:06,970 --> 00:31:09,490 objects flying near their aircraft during flights. 561 00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:12,650 Sometimes these encounters are close enough to force pilots to 562 00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:16,370 take take evasive maneuvers. Sometimes this is a story that 563 00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:21,010 stays with them forever. Cleo Figario is a Virginia pilot 564 00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:23,970 who had a close encounter with a strange object while flying a 565 00:31:23,970 --> 00:31:26,770 plane carrying skydivers in July of 2022. 566 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:29,850 Figario says since he was young, he has always been interested in 567 00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:32,240 aviation. He served in the Navy for two 568 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,640 years to help increase his flight time and become a better 569 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,360 pilot. After the Navy, he took a job in 570 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,160 the Midwest as a skydive pilot. During a flight on July 10th, 571 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,440 2022, he would see something he'd never forget, he says. 572 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,800 We were climbing to 10,000 feet and at around 4300 feet I was 573 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520 looking into the distance and this thing caught my eye, 574 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,400 Figario said. It started getting closer and it 575 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,960 was approaching me about 15 feet to my left, heading north, 576 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,840 Galani says. Something interesting he 577 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,120 reported was that you couldn't see the object when you looked 578 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,640 at it directly. Other pilots have reported the 579 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,920 same thing during their encounters. 580 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,720 He said. The object was the size of a 581 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,600 small car, and without realizing it, he started turning his 582 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,960 plane. To the left is the object passed 583 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,600 by Virgil Etta Yell, which caused the people in the back of 584 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,280 the plane to look out the window. 585 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,680 Three of them see it, including one of the instructors, Figuera 586 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,990 said. By the time I turned the plane, 587 00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:34,630 it was already on the horizon, and I have an illustration of it 588 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:37,870 here. It's just kind of a gold orb. 589 00:32:38,110 --> 00:32:40,590 I don't know how big it is. I mean, from the picture, maybe 590 00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:44,470 the size, like maybe, he says, the size of a small car and his 591 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:47,510 thing's just flying right outside the window of this small 592 00:32:47,510 --> 00:32:49,950 airplane. That had to be thrilling. 593 00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:52,830 Now it says shortly after the object was gone. 594 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:55,750 Figure out contact the air traffic control and asked if 595 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:58,550 they had seen a drone on radar, to which they said they didn't. 596 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,000 He called again and described the object he saw and asked if 597 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,800 they'd seen it. There was a long pause on the 598 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,880 other end, and then they said they didn't see it, Figaro said. 599 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,400 Figaro's story sounds very similar to other stories from 600 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,960 all over the world, and he says he always keeps his head on a 601 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280 swivel during flights to see if it happens again. 602 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,800 As more investigations were launched into Ufo's new Ap's, 603 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,080 more studies could pop up from anywhere and everywhere. 604 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,880 And then they have a number here you can you can call this, Well, 605 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,700 if you happen to see a UFO, I like the fact that the news 606 00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:31,100 people took the time to do a short story on this and they 607 00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,380 created this really cool little image which you can go take a 608 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:36,700 look at cuz it helps. This is what's called 609 00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:38,060 disclosure. There's disseminating 610 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:40,820 information that people are giving about these different 611 00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:42,940 UFOs they saw. And we can go through these and 612 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:44,820 we can really just analyze them, see what's going on. 613 00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:47,660 In this case, he talks about this saying that when you look 614 00:33:47,780 --> 00:33:51,870 directly at it, it disappeared. Sounds like more of this 615 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:54,950 observer effect that we've so often hear about these things. 616 00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:56,750 Sometimes they appear when you look at them, sometimes they 617 00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:58,750 disappear. The fact this guy had the 618 00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:00,430 courage to come out and talk about it though is great. 619 00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:02,870 That's what we need. When you people just to begin to 620 00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:05,950 talk about this stuff publicly, even if they don't want to do it 621 00:34:06,190 --> 00:34:08,949 with their name attached in it, then by all means go to 622 00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:12,550 reporting site and anonymously talk about this stuff and just 623 00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:16,370 tell us what you've seen. Because the way to get these 624 00:34:16,370 --> 00:34:20,449 stories buried is to give them to a row or the DoD or some or 625 00:34:20,449 --> 00:34:22,730 the FAA or some government reporting agency. 626 00:34:23,090 --> 00:34:26,330 As Representative Burchett says, you don't trust these guys, so 627 00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:27,969 it's time just to go around them. 628 00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:31,610 I don't think we'll probably ever have a UFO hotline that 629 00:34:31,610 --> 00:34:34,290 really works. I expect it to continue to be 630 00:34:34,370 --> 00:34:36,610 Mia. But we have the Internet that 631 00:34:36,610 --> 00:34:41,250 works and there's dozens if not hundreds or maybe even thousands 632 00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:43,850 of places online to report these things. 633 00:34:43,850 --> 00:34:47,699 So if you see one, pick the time to report it until next time. 634 00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:49,100 This is UFO warning over now.