Hello and welcome to the program.
You have a warning, today's topic been rich and Skunk Works.
That's right. Ben rich and Skunk Works.
Now, this is some of the stuff that goes back door back to the
1940s. Of course, Ben Rich has passed
away back and I believe, 1995, but I think it's important to
talk about this subject because it plays such an important Merle
and modern-day UFO lore. And it's important that we talk
about the Big Time Players, some of them still with of us, some
of them and passed on. But as we examine this idea of
UFO technology, back-engineering the Deep State, these are the
players names who keep coming up over and over again.
And it's a good thing to at least have an idea of who they
they are and what they're about. Sometimes, their importance can
be a little overplayed, sometimes it can be completely
under plate. But as we begin to take a look
at the UFO Saga, we see all of these actors enter woven
together over time, and it really does create a fascinating
tapestry of have a fax places named States.
It can get a little confusing sometimes, but if we just stop
and take a podcast down then to talk about who some of these big
time. Just some of these big-time
players war and still are, it helps us as we try to get our
mind around, what's going on in the UFO field today.
Now, I found the first article here from Wikipedia because it
seemed to be the most, you know, I don't use Wikipedia a lot.
But sometimes it is a good repository for this sort of
stuff. You don't have to believe every
word that's written here. But in general, when it comes to
this kind of thing, they will get some of the facts down to
kind of give us a launching pad for where we're going and This
one article is linked at the Twitter account, UFO, warning
course you can get there by going to sub.
Warning UFO, excuse me, at warning sub UFO, at warning sub
UFO, and way there do a fall. Now, it says here skunkworks
says, skunkworks is an official pseudonym for Lockheed Martin's
Advanced development, programmer, ADP formerly called
Lockheed Advanced development projects.
It is responsible for a number of aircraft designs including
the you to the Lockheed SR-71. Blackbird the Lockheed 117
Nighthawk Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and Lockheed Martin F-35
lightning to which are used in the air.
Forces of several countries. Its name was taken from the
Moonshine, Factory in the comic strip, Lil Abner, the
designation Skunk Works or Skunk Works.
One word is widely used in business, engineering and
Technical fields to designate a group within an organization,
given a high degree of autonomy and unhampered by bureaucracy.
With the task of working on Advanced or secret projects, of
course. This is the idea from which
people, develop the notion that Lockheed Martin was back,
engineering UFOs. And this kind of goes along with
Bob lazarre's story that he was back engineering UFOs.
Now it says here under history, it says there are conflicting
observations about the birth of Scott Gore's been rich and Kelly
Johnson set. The origin is June 43 in
Burbank, California, they relate, essentially, the same
ecology and their autobiographies theirs is
theirs, is the official Lockheed skunkworks story and it says,
the are technical service command are atsc.
The Army Air Force met with Lockheed aircraft Corporation to
express its need for a jet fighter.
A rapidly growing German jet threat gave Lockheed an
opportunity to develop an airframe around the most
powerful jet engine. That Allied Forces had access to
the British Goblin. Lockheed was chosen to develop
the jab because if it's passed interest in jet development and
its previous contracts with their, with the Air Force one
month after atsc and lock in the Lockheed meeting.
The young engineer Clarence L, Callie Johnson.
And other associate Engineers hand-delivered, the initial xp80
proposal to atsc, two days later.
The go-ahead was given to Lockheed to start development.
Skunk Works was born with Kelly Johnson at the helm.
The formal contract for the xp80 did not arrive at Lockheed until
October 16th 1943, some four months after work had already
begun. This would prove to be a common
practice within the skunkworks. May times a customer would come
to the skunk works with a request and on a handshake, the
project would begin, no contracts in place, no official,
submittal process, Kelly Johnson and he skunkworks team design.
Signed and built the xp80 and only 143 Days Seven fewer than
was required. That's pretty incredible.
We think about it here. These individuals are working
with us government to develop that Jack technology at the very
beginning actually, before the beginning of World War Two.
So this project Skunk Works for Lockheed Martin goes back, a
long way. And we can see of course that it
was based at the very Foundation, we have some super
smart Engineers there. Developing much of the
technology we see in Aerospace and in the Air Force warplanes
today and it goes on and then it has a little article, a little
history here at talks about 1955 the skunkworks received a
contract from the CIA to build a spy plane known as the you to,
with the intention of flying over the Soviet Union and
photographing sites of strategic interest.
I think about that. That's 1955 when they built the
U-2 spy plane. 1955. 65 years ago, imagine the technology they
have today. 65 years later we go on here, says Kelly Johnson head
of the skunk works until 1975. He was succeeded by Ben rich.
In 1976, the Skunk Works began began production up here,
stealth technology, demonstrators for the US or Air
Force named have blue in building. 82 at Burbank, these
skill down, demonstrators built in.
Only 18 months, were a revolutionary step.
Kept forward and Aviation Technology because they're
extremely small radar cross-section.
After a series of successful flights, beginning 1977 the Air
Force, awarded Skunk Works contract to build the F-117
Stealth fighter on November 1st, 1978 1978, they started that
project. And remember the stealth
fighter, of course, it has a composite materials and the
design to evade radar a design. It's so complicated.
And So hard to fly that they have to have computers aided and
flying the machine to keep it near.
And remember that some of you may recall there was an
interview a few years ago where some of the engineers were
talking about the stealth fighter, and they let it slip.
That this thing is producing such enormous amounts, of
electromagnetic magnetic energy that it's warping, the
time-space Continuum, I guess you would call it around the
airplane. That's what really prevents the
radar from from picking it out. I think that radar that that
conversation was cut short because that information was
considered classified at the time.
So just imagine these guys were building these kind of aircraft
in 1978. There were they they had, they
had discovered the process back in the late 70s, early 80s of
these of these, airships creating so much energy.
Basically, creating a in electromagnetic envelope around
the aircraft. We see that.
Continue today with dr. Pies patents that they put in
for the US, Navy, the steps gotten so Advanced, whether it
was back engineered or whether these guys just created it from
their own, from their own work. Let's just get in the benefit of
the doubt and say that guys, like guys, like Kelly and rich
just made this stuff up out of whole cloth.
You have to admit that the technology for these planes has
gotten so Advanced and so complicated that it really does.
It really does imitate, what we would think of Is unidentified
flying objects, the way that it's able to move.
The the hold out though, is The person flying the plane, you
could create planes to do some of the things that UFOs do.
You might be able to create machines that can travel at
these enormous speeds and make a right angle turns, you know what
Mach 3 or mock for reaching reaching Mach 1. 35, I think
they said the one UFO did but the question is how Would you
keep the pile of Life? There would have to be some way
that you were keeping that environment within the plane.
Some kind of anti-gravity environment within the plane
either way these guys were doing cutting-edge stuff quarterback
and a in the 50s 60s, 70s. And that's been kind of a
Hallmark of the skunk works. Now you can go ahead and and
read some more of the stuff here.
It's on the link there at the Twitter account.
UFO morning. It's fascinating.
Stuff. But it's important.
I think to see that the technology has reached such a
level that it's, it's almost impossible to tell where human
techno technology ends and alien technology begins or perhaps has
some say, our own human technology is so Advanced that
it's being mistaken for alien. Technology, time will tell.
Now, there's another article here, I want to look at because
Ben rich is kind of the focus here and there are other
players, I don't want to go back and talk about later on a future
podcast, but we'll see her in a minute while I'm focused on Ben
Rich. Okay, now, this is also from
Wikipedia, it says, Benjamin Robert Rich Live from June 18th
1925 the January 5th. 1995 is only 69 when he died was an
American engineer and the second director of Lockheed Skunk Works
from 1975 to 1990. One succeeding.
Its founder Kelly Johnson regarded.
As the father of stealth. Rich was responsible for leading
the development. The F-117 the first production
stealth aircraft. He also worked on the f-104.
You 2812 SR-71 and F-22 among others.
Now, it says, here that he was born in Manila, Philippines, he
died. Madera California, January 5th,
1995 869. Of course he was American
education at UCLA. UC Berkeley, Harvard, Business
School, and regarded as the father of the stealth.
Now, It's a little interesting or says Rich was born in Manila
in the Philippines. He was one of five children and
British lumber mill, superintendent is music or Rich,
and his French wife and the daughter of one of his paternal
grandfather's Jewish customers who lived in Alexandria Egypt.
The rich family was one of the first Jewish families to settle
in Manila. Having fled the Philippines just
weeks before, the Empire of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.
They moved to the United States in You 42 were Rich, became a
naturalized US citizen. So you see, he moved here at
about age 17, escaping the Japanese invasion of the
Philippines and 1942 were Rich, became a naturalized citizen.
He worked with his father in a Los Angeles, California, machine
shop, during WWII, and studied at the city's Hamilton High
School after the war. He started his college education
when he was 21, majoring in mechanical engineering at UC
Berkeley, followed by a Master's Degree in Aeronautical
Engineering. Earring at UCLA instead of the
medical field as you originally planned and he would later
complete the advanced management program at Harvard Business
School obviously just a really smart guy.
Now that's a little bit of the background so this guy's born.
There it comes from the Philippines naturalized US
citizen. But some of the things about
him, take a little bit of a turn toward High strangeness.
And just before I get into that, though, I want to point out, I
loaded a video here, there's a link to it.
You can go to it from the Twitter warrant that you have a
warning Twitter account. It's about a five minute video.
I think it's not the History Channel, but it's another one
here you can go look at this video and one of the fellows,
I'm blanking his name right now. He talks about it and it counter
that he had with Ben Rich back in the early 90s where he was
giving a speech. And apparently he went on the
speaking to her after he retired from Lockheed.
And in this interview he relates that rich made a couple of
comments. One of the comments was in
effect stating that we now have the technology to take E.T home.
That's a pretty famous quote from being rich and then the
second comment, He makes he relates to that interview as how
after the seminar speech, whatever he'd gone to with a
friend, he followed Rich out to his car and he questioned him
about this notion of the American you know the US Air
Force. Now being able to take E.T home.
In other words, having space travel technology to the stars
and according to him, rich, rich made the statement regarding
this saying that. Of the fact that it would be
like ESP space travel would work like ESP that all points to
space and time are connected. That's what rich said, according
to him, and coming from this and this store has been repeated a
lot, and it's on the internet, you can look it up.
If you just type in been Rich, quote, you'll get those quotes
verbatim. A lot of people have thought
that, that was somehow an admission from been Rich.
That the United States had back-engineered UFO technology,
and we Were using it and that they had also paid also
basically broken the code that we had come to understand that
all points in time and space are connected, kind of a kind of a
Quantum thing there. That seems like a little bit of
a leap to me. I don't see Ben rich as being
the kind of guy as far as I know from what I could read.
He never disclosed, anything that was classified.
He kept all of his Secrets EOS until he died.
So I don't see that is him giving us some kind of
disclosure some people and I'll get to that in a minute here.
Say that was just kind of a thing he did with his speeches
to him. It was a little joke you know he
was on the speaking circuit. He's probably making.
Any good money at it and as they explained in our brief and I'll
read here in a minute, that was kind of his stick.
He kind of read the same speech over and over again.
And I think that if you know anything about the speaking
circuit, that's what happens, whether you know, whether it's a
UFO conventions or, you know, the self-help people, whatever
they seem to get into this deal, where they have a speech and
they keep giving the same speech over and over again and because
it works, and I think that was kind of what he put that tag
line in there was Because it worked now that's not to say
they didn't make some enormous technological breakthroughs, and
it's not to say that it's not a possibility that they hadn't
back-engineered source that. So I want to look at this.
I would recommend going to watch that video so I'll five minutes.
You can take a look at that and then there's a couple other
things on here. There's a little thing that was
put out by Lockheed Martin, and I think it's important, not just
to when we talk about these icons of the UFO phenomena
investigation, it's not just important to read the stuff
about it. We find in the alternative news
or Wikipedia, I think it's good. Sometimes just to take a look at
what they say about themselves. Okay.
And then we can compare that as a standard in here from Lockheed
Martin.com, it says, been Rich The Invisible Man and the Sea.
Of 1972 been Rich. One of the most seasoned
engineers and Lockheed Martin skunkworks division.
Stood nervously outside the office of his boss.
Legendary Clarence, Kelly Johnson in 18 years since
Johnson recruited Rich to join skunkworks.
The two men had developed a unique, almost father-son
relationship. Rich had helped his mentor, show
Shore up, thermodynamic and propulsion issues.
With some of the junk was some of Johnson's most famous
Nations, including the f-104 Interceptor and the SR-71
Blackbird and in return Johnson had taken Rich under his wing.
Letting him tag along to meetings with military
officials. Rich had come to tell Johnson
that he'd been offered a new position at a rival.
Airplane manufacturer Kelly, listen shook his head, and then
offered up a secret of his own Johnson told his Protege that in
three years, he would be retiring.
And when he did, he plan to personally, Rich to take over as
director of the skunkworks operation of the Skunk Works.
The most prestigious engineering Post in the history of Aviation
Rich State and Johnson delivered on his promise, helping his
Protege. When the post he not only
desired but richly deserved. Then it goes on and says unlike
Johnson. And often intimidating figure,
the more affable Rich was more of a bridge builder, listening
carefully to the wishes of his customers and then thoughtfully
delegating responsibilities to turn their needs.
He's into breakthrough aircraft for military officials
accustomed to dealing with Johnson's brushed personality
Rich, provided a different approach.
He quickly went over the Pentagon with a redesign of the
divisions. Famed U-2, spy plane to meet
more contemporary Mission requirements.
And then turned his attention to selling the one plane.
He believed believed in more than any other.
The F-117 Stealth fighter rich took a great Gamble and
supporting his team's unusual but ultimately revolutionary
stealthy. Women shaped design, especially
so early in his tenure kelly, didn't like the look of it nay
Sayers, called it hopeless, diamond called it, the Hopeless
Diamond, but Rich pressed on confident is team.
Was on top, was on the cusp of a breakthrough that would render
the aircraft practically invisible to enemy radar.
You see, this guy was way ahead of his time and time, Rich would
prove to be a perfect manager for the project.
The Savvy salesman, encouraging team Builder and a decisive.
I see of team leader, all-in-one dubious Engineers will quickly
given stealth 101 classes to better inform them on the
technology. So you see this, it's like this
type of soil, Advanced that Rich has to educate.
The engineers were going to build it on the technology that
they're going to be using. That's kind of perplexing.
I mean, either, this guy was such a genius that he had
developed and discovered a whole new ways of doing things that,
that, that his own Engineers Smart, Guys.
Themselves hadn't, even thought of hurry guys, hands on some
kind of material and back-engineered.
It it really makes you wonder. It says dubious Engineers were
quickly. Given self 101 classes to better
inform them of the technology later the project when the Air
Force requested the creation of two experimental prototypes, And
only 14 months. He used existing Hardware from
other programs to save money and meet what was considered a near
impossible deadlines and when an official shoot-down test was
scheduled for 1979. It was rich who flew out to the
Nevada desert and personally watched as his Invisible War
Bird slip past radar defenses, undetected under richest
leadership like 81 the cell fighter competition and on June
18th, 1981 riches 55th birthday. He watched As an f-117a,
Nighthawk took off on the first official test flight changing
the nature of aerial Warfare forever because honest is a
legend in his own right by sheer coincidence.
Coincidence of first tactical strike by F 17:9 hot would occur
in 1991 on the same day is riches official retirement,
banquet. One of the pilots of the 37th
tactical Fighter Wing, who flew the planes.
First combat Mission said, he just said he dedicated the first
strike to Rich. Each later.
Handing him a tiny American flag that he's set in his cock pic
during the flight. It was a token of his gratitude,
his gratitude for creating the world's first invisible
aircraft. According to Rich Johnson's
ghostly voice, nagged at him during his entire tenure Skunk
Works director. But by the time of riches,
retirement Skunk Works was as much.
A reflection of the Protege, as the mentor riches efforts and
shaping the Night Hawk had not only won him, the prestigious
Collier trophy trophy in the But the respective even the most
die-hard Kelly supporters through an unusual, mix of
optimism pluck, and old, and old fashioned intelligence Rich had.
Only preserved skunkworks reputation had not only
preserves Conquest reputation, but had enhanced it.
We can see from that short clip there.
This guy was an incredibly, I mean, super intelligent, genius
IQ type guy. So I have to think that he
wasn't out, you're just popping things off the top of his head
to grab attention. He didn't need attention.
I mean, for crying out loud. He run the program that created
the stealth fighter. perhaps, this guy was just so smart that
sometimes he said things, That he assumed other people would
automatically understand and appreciate and maybe some of the
people in the UFO Community. Have taken them a little too
strong. I don't know.
There's one article here that talks about this a little bit.
I'm going to go through this because there's been a lot said
about this guy with the notion that he has.
That he gave disclosure of UFOs. And I and I really think that
well, that might be true. I think it's there's not enough
evidence to show. That's exactly what happened now
this This from nouriel hayakawa. So what WordPress is from four
years ago and it says been Rich Miss quoted by many in the UFO
Community. I think it makes some good
points are normally, you know, I'm not the debunker type but I
think it's important that we consider all the evidence.
When we talk about these Giants in the UFO, Paradigm and been
Rich, certainly is a giant, who's looked back at many times.
In many people, quote is one of the first government or even
deep State actors to give disclosure.
And I just think that we need to be a little careful about making
that assumption without. Looking at all the facts not
says been Rich, born June 18th 1925, January 5th. 1955 was a
second director of Lockheed Skunk Works from 1975 to 1990.
One seceding. Its founder Kelly.
Regarded as the father of stealth Rich was responsible for
leading the development, the F1 15, the first production stealth
aircraft. He also worked on the f-104, you
to a 12 SR-71 and F-22 among others.
He is the author of skunkworks. A personal Memoir of my years of
Lockheed now, says false unsubstantiated.
Rumors abound when it comes to miss quotes cited by many
gullible UFO. Researchers many in the UFO
Community seem To believe that Ben Rich stated during a 1993
alumni speech at UCLA quote. We already have the means to
travel Among the Stars but these Technologies are locked up in
Black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them
out, to benefit Humanity, anything you can imagine.
We already know how to do now. Says they're saying here, that
that quotes not correct. It says, this is far from the
truth Ben Rich never said any such Thanks seriously.
That goes here, says from shadowhawk, Peter, Merlin,
August 27, 2013, Peter Merlin, and my opinion is one of the
most knowledgeable and respected military.
Aviation historians at the present time, I had the honor of
meeting him in 2005 at the 50th anniversary celebration of Area
51, which was held at the perimeters and it says, quote
been rich is constantly Miss quoted as saying.
We now have the technology to take E.T home.
That is not what he said at the end of his presentation.
And he showed his final slide a picture of a disc-shaped craft.
The classic flying-saucer flying into a partly cloudy sky with a
burst of sunlight in the background and he gave his
standard tagline. It was a joke.
He had used a numerous presentations since 1983.
When Steven Spielberg's e.t.? The Extra-Terrestrial a film
about a young boy befriending a loss of vision from space and
helping the alien. Get home had become the highest
grossing film of all time. Rich apparently decided to
capitalize on his. On this popularity by the summer
of 1983 he had added the Flying Saucer picture to the end of a
set between the end of a set of between 12 and 25 slides that he
showed with his lecture on the history of lockheed's famed,
Skunk Works division, Rich had long used a standard script for
his talks tailoring. The content is necessary to
accommodate is audience since most skunks works.
Current projects were classified.
It didn't matter whether he was addressing school children or
professional aeronautical Engineers, he always ended the
same way a defense Symposium on future Space Systems in
Washington, DC on September 20th 1983.
He said, unfortunately I cannot tell you what, we have been
doing for the last 10 years. It seems, we score breakthrough
at the skunkworks, every decade. So, if you invite me back in 10
years, I'll be able to tell you what we are doing.
Now. I can I can tell you about a
contract, we recently received, the skunkworks has been
assigned, the task of getting ET back home, the audience laughed,
and it the audience laughed, as it was meant to.
So they're saying it was just a joke, it seemed something is
successful if it is worth repeating Rich gave an identical
speech at the u.s. Naval Academy in Annapolis.
Maryland on September 6, 1984 and continued using his script
during successive. Appearances, sometimes he
redefined the details a bit. I wish I could tell you that I
wish I could tell you what else we are doing.
And the skunkworks. You said, wrapping up a
presentation for the Beverly Hills, chapter of the National
Society of Daughters of the American Revolution on May, 23rd
1990, you'll have to come back in a few years I will conclude
by telling you that last week we received a contract to take E.T
back home. Three years later, he was still
using the same line and the same slide.
We did the f-104, C-130 you to SR-71 F-117 and many other
programs that I can't talk about.
He proclaimed during a 1993 speech at the Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base, Ohio home of Air Force, materiel command the
organizational, research organization responsible for all
all flight testing within the Air Force.
We are still working very hard. I just can't tell you what we're
doing as usual. He added his by now, Infamous
punch line, the Air Force has just given us.
A contract to take E.T back home within the UFO Community riches
words and additional statements. Attributed to him, without
Cooperative, proof have become gospel.
He is named as having admitted that extraterrestrial, UFO
visitors are real. And that the US military has
Interstellar capabilities. And although, nearly two full
years passed between riches, UCLA speech and his death in
1995. Some Believers have touted his
comments as Deathbed confession. It was nothing of the kind,
Rich, a brilliant scientist, apparently believed in the
existence of other intelligent life.
In the universe though, only is something distant and mysterious
in July 1986 after after test your corporation model.
Cake designer, John Andrews, wrote asking what he thought
about the possible existence of either man-made or
extraterrestrial UFOs. Rich responded.
I'm a Believer in both categories.
I feel everything is possible. He cautioned, however, that in
both categories, Or he's there are a lot of cooks and
charlton's be cautious. When you see here it sounds like
he was a real smart man that in compartmentalize the notion of
ETS in a cheese. Whatever.
And that while he was open to the public possibility that they
existed, he certainly wasn't going to disclose that.
Now maybe he knew better, maybe he knew more, but this guy was
he was top secret clearance and it sounds to me like he's just,
you know, I mean I guess you could call this guy deep state.
He's definitely someone who's passed a lot of high-level
intelligence and that type of background.
He's not going to disclose something.
Even if he does know it. This is a tough nut to crack.
So. So I really the more I read this
article, the more I see, the fact that they've been Rich was
just a super smart guy that invented a bunch of airplanes
that that rental projects invented.
Some of the that that created the most advanced aircraft we've
ever known. He understood physics at a level
that was so high, he had to retrain his engineers.
But I don't see him as being. This this guy who's offering the
UFO Community to community disclosure, I just don't think
that's a need that he had. I see, it's got him as being a
super smart, super hard working guy that for the last three or
four or five years of his life. He went around, he gave
speeches. He made a little extra money.
He had a lot of fun doing it, and it was, it was something at
the ice cream and cake level. He wasn't getting into deep
disclosure, and as far as comments that he may, or may not
have made about space travel being like, ESP all points in
time and space connected. I don't know.
I tell you what it looks like. He looks like one of these guys
who's so smart that the average person couldn't have really had
a productive conversation with him anyway, the guys, the guys
genius. So for him to have that kind of
a conversation was with even even say a scientist, just you
just haphazardly seems, okay, let's just assume it happen but
you notice it didn't go any further than that.
It's like this guy is so smart that all of his speeches
directed speech. Anyway, he's not sitting down
having a sit-down with a bunch of UFO and that enthusiasts
that's not like that's not even in the picture.
It was on a says no matter how many years have passed, since
the last time you set it was always we just got a contract of
a few weeks ago. We received a contract that was
a part of the gag making it sound like a current skunks
Works project but Rich kept copies of his scripts which he
re use, according to the needs of his audience, along with the
photocopies All the slides, including the Flying Saucer.
So these details are easy to verify.
What you see, he's sticking to the script and that's a smart
thing for a guy like him to do. I mean, the last thing he needs
to do is get jammed up because somebody accused him of sharing
classified information. You can see what's happening
here. He's got this very kind of bare
bones, little thing he does, most people are probably just
there because their fans, they want to, they want to see and
maybe shake the hand of the guy that Invented.
The F-117, I mean, he's kind of a celebrity and this is to me a
celebrity tour. It's not a disclosure to her
says John Harrison. Now, executive director of mufon
attended, the March 1993, lecture at the University of
California, Los Angeles, with fellow, UCLA engineering,
alumnus and UFO enthusiasts Todd, Tom Keller, Keller and
aerospace engineer who has worked as a computer systems
analyst for NASA's jet propulsion.
Laboratory wrote about it in the May 2010 issue of mufon you
Tarzan recently, shared this story in January 2012, interview
with web talk radio and another Allah Alejandro Rojas of open
minds UFO, news, investigations in July. 2013 ours on says that
after the lecture ended, a few people remain behind you.
Ask questions some wanted to know more about the technology
to take E.T home Tarzan, says Rich initially, brushed off
these queries, but allegedly told one engineer, you now know
how to travel to the Stars. We found an error in the
equations and it won't take a lifetime to do it.
I have also heard Rich, the statement, quoted his first, you
have to understand that we will not get to the stars using
chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new
propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out
where Einstein went wrong. Unfortunately, neither quotas
verifier is verifiable, but the second one sounds more like the
words of an engineer especially one with riches stated views is
outlined in his letter to John Andrews, as sings.
Begin to wind down after the UCL a speech rich said I've got to
go now and started to walk out of the room.
Harz a is pursued him and continue to ask him about the
workings of the interstellar propulsion systems.
It was an unanswerable question in the light of our current
scientific knowledge, Rich, finally, stopped and turned, and
then ask cars on an unanswerable question of his own.
Well, let me ask you how this ESP work stun, her as an
stammered. I don't know.
All points in space and time are connected, Rich responded.
That's how it works. Then abruptly turned and walked
away from the tone of the exchange that sounds more like
Rich having been kept well, past his planned departure time and
tired of being pestered will simply anxious to leave and not
that he was sharing some technological.
Secret ours and others have interpreted riches.
Final comments is a tacit admission that Interstellar
propulsion, technology exists, that it is in the hands of the
US scientists and that involves a specific sort of known
equations. But taken in context and sounds
more like Rich. Carry this joke too far and
talked himself into a corner is likely that he would have said
that's how it works. No matter what her Zane's answer
to the ESP question. Even if Rich had said, look, I
was just kidding. It would have done it would have
done no good. The damage was done, then it
says in 1994 a year. After the UCLA lecture Rich tool
popular make Science magazine. We have some new things at the
Skunk Works. We are not stagnating what we're
doing is Dating ourselves without advertising.
There are some new programs and there are certain things, some
of them 20 or 30 years old that are still breakthroughs and are
appropriate to keep quiet about because other people don't have
them yet he didn't disclose or even hint at any advanced
Interstellar propulsion Technologies because there was
nothing to disclose. Wow now that does sound like a
pretty good counter argument to the to the notion that been Rich
was in the habit of giving. Closure about Interstellar
travel, all these articles are fun to read.
And sometimes, you know, when we get the information second-hand,
it's easy to accept it or, or simply discard it I think it's
always good to go back, examine the facts and examine the origin
of the facts. And you have to admit, then Rich
was was a super smart guy. And I don't think he would just
been out there. You know, talking about this
stuff flippantly as this is the last Arthur said he was.
He was on the speaking circuit. He was out there and meeting
people just enjoying himself, probably making a little extra
money and he was, it was not a UFO disclosure to her.
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