Hello and welcome to the program UFO Morning.
In this episode we're talking about alien abductions and fake
interviews. That's correct, alien abductions
and fake interviews. Now the story comes to us from
ufoinsight.com and the title says Bizarre Fake interviews, a
little known detail of the alien abduction phenomena, and this is
written by Marcus Louth, dated July 1st, 2023.
Now I'll put a link at the Buy me a Coffee website and highly
suggest that you check out this site.
I think they've got a lot of good material over there, and I
really like this guy's writing style, He says. 3 Alien
Abduction 3 Alien Abductees investigated by the late Bud
Hopkins are intriguing, not so much for the abductions
themselves, but of a seemingly trivial detail involving bizarre
interview scenarios that each woman experienced.
As Hopkins investigated these curious setups further, he
arrived at the conclusion that they are seemingly another layer
of the alien abduction phenomenon.
You know, I I tell you, I really feel sorry for these people to
have to undergo this strange, stressful event, he says.
A particular concern is the notion that these truly strange
encounters are suggestive of an end goal of hybridization
program being directly connected to alien abductions, and that
the people themselves were alien human hybrids carrying some part
of the mission. To this concerning agenda.
That might sound farfetched, but perhaps these people have had,
you know, ancestors along the way that have been injected with
some sort of gene by these things that are simply being
tracked. It wouldn't mean that they
aren't, that they aren't alien, and I think maybe the term alien
human hybrid here might make these people sound less human
that they are. I mean, this could simply be
these people being farmed to say maybe they've been injected with
something to cause their blood to produce a certain kind of
chemical or gene or whatever that helps these aliens.
Who knows? It goes on.
It says. Of course, what the end goal of
this alien human hybridization program might be is in the topic
of debate. Are they looking to invade Earth
discreetly without us even being aware of it?
Or might they simply leave and venture elsewhere?
Once this program goals have been achieved, these questions
will perhaps have to wait for another time.
For now, we will concentrate on 3 encounters mentioned above.
The cases we are about to examine are documented in the
book Sight Unseen Science, UFO and Visibility, and the
Transgenic Beings by Carol Rainey and Bud Hopkins.
Of course, Bud Hopkins has passed away now, but he was
quite a an Allstar celebrity, you know, back in the day with
the UFO phenomenon. And at Betty Interviews it says
a letter from Terry Winthrop. After after preparing a 25 point
questionnaire on alien abduction for the December 1987 edition of
Omni magazine, Bud Hopkins, as the questionnaire had requested,
began receiving correspondence from people who believed they
had indeed been the victim of alien abduction.
One such response came from a New Jersey 32 year old housewife
and mother of three who Hopkins gave the false name Terry
Winthrop and for whatever reason it stood out to him.
In it, Terry details an account that took place 14 years
previously, around 1973 or 74, when she was three months
pregnant, and her ex-husband, when she was three months
pregnant at the time and her ex-husband were driving home
following a visit to the Jersey Shore.
It was late afternoon and the sun was still bright and high in
the sky. Then, however, something truly
strange happened in the letter, Terry states as follows.
The next thing we both The next thing we both knew we were
sitting in the parked car and it was dark and we were in a place
we'd never been. As they grapple with what had
happened, they came to the conclusion that there were
around two or three hours they couldn't account for.
And what's more, they had the feeling that when they found
themselves in the parked car, they had only waken up moments
earlier, almost as if they had been brought out of some kind of
a bizarre trance. They could also see that they
were in a barren sort of field, with absolutely nothing all
around them, and with no memory of how they had arrived there.
Eventually, after gathering their senses somewhat, they put
the car in motion and slowly found their way back to the
road. However, when they did, it was a
road that they were not at all familiar with and so they were
uncertain of which direction to set off in.
Ultimately, they eventually found their way back to the road
to take them home, and once there, the pair pretty much put
the incident out of their mind. However, when Terry read the
article that accompanied the alien abduction questionnaire,
she had a sudden flash of memory about the incident, which
eventually led her to contact Hopkins.
Now, this kind of makes me think that she had repressed that
memory until this little thing tripped her off.
And you know, I think that does happen with people sometimes.
If you see something traumatic, you can just suppress it in your
mind and then it might not come back to you for years later,
maybe after you've had time to you kind of process information
subconsciously, I think it says. In the same letter, Terry also
went on to detail a strange event that occurred much more
recently in the summer of 1986. She would state that it was a
very warm, clear, beautiful night, and she was outside,
sitting at her picnic table and looking up at the stars.
As she did so, she noticed a strange star that appeared to be
throbbing and pulsating, making it appear as though it was going
forward and backward. She watched this strange star
for several moments, almost going into a relaxed state from
its glow. Then, for reasons she couldn't
explain, she decided to turn her attention to her.
Right there, just above the next Rd. was a very large vehicle
that was just hovering perfectly, still somewhere
between 20 to 30 feet above the ground.
She set up a little so she could see the object a little better
through the trees that surrounded her garden, all the
while thinking to herself that this can't possibly be real.
She described the objects as being a Pentagon shape with red,
blue-green and white lights all along the side.
So that is a little bit different shape, you know, so
often we hear about these flying saucers.
But she says this is Pentagon shaped, with red, blue-green and
white lights along the side and total.
She watched the object for between 3:00 to 4:00 minutes
before it moved forward slowly and up with a gradual incline.
Then it suddenly took off real quick, disappearing from sight
in an instant, she says, And a further twist, although the
witness didn't sense any missing time, as she had done with her
husband a decade and a half earlier.
When she returned inside the house and checked her watch, it
was much later than she thought it was, although she consoled
herself that she was simply outside, longer than she thought
she'd been before. Well, there you go, she goes
back in the house. She sees clearly she's had
missing time, but what's the first reaction?
First reaction is a normalcy bias, she says.
Oh, what couldn't have been. Terry would return outside front
of the cigarette a short time later, this time to the front
porch. Amazingly, the same object, or
at the very least an identical one, it says, appeared from over
her house, remaining silent as it moved, before disappearing in
the distance. Hopkins immediately sensed from
some of the details in the letter that Terry was a credible
witness, not least as she had at no point in her correspondence,
insisted that she was the victim of an alien abduction and
questioned several times if there was a more rational
explanation. She also questioned her own
version of events several times, asking if if it was her
imagination or if she couldn't be sure about certain details.
Furthermore, it was also clear that she feared Hopkins himself
wouldn't believe her to be a crackpot.
However, more than that, Hopkins picked up certain details
suggested to him that not only was the missing time episode in
the 1970s likely an abduction encounter, but the incident
outside her home and the summer of 1986 most likely was too.
Hopkins highlights how quite often in alien abduction cases,
the abductees often find themselves doing something new
or unusual immediately before their abductions, with Hopkins
even suggesting that this is as if the UFOO occupants have
somehow were somehow able to compel behavior that facilitated
the abductees capture. We might recall that on that
evening, Terry felt a sudden urge to go outside and look at
the stars. Was this something that was
instilled in her by her abductees?
I I can see this a lot in people when they have these abduction
experiences where it's almost like they're drawn into this
thing. And maybe that's just because
these things are looking for people that are suggestible or
vulnerable to, you know, take, or they have to have some sort
of consent there. I don't know.
In fact, it was a description in her letter to him about that
second sighting that also drew Hopkins to Terry as a credible
and genuine witness. As he highlights, even though
she had memories of that strange evening with her exhusband in
the 1970s, she hadn't even entertained.
It could have been connected to UFO as much less an abduction.
However, upon seeing the strange object from her yard just a just
short of a decade and a half later, she suddenly recalled
that evening once more. As Hopskin writes, 1 Might One
Might is tempted to suggest that she did so because
subconsciously she knew the two incidents were real.
Absolutely, that's what I would perceive that is.
Another detail that Hopkins picked up was the fact that
despite the highly unusual nature of the events in her
yard, Terry felt No Fear, something which surprised even
herself. Ultimately, Hopkins would meet
with Terry, and eventually she would undergo hypnotic
regression sessions to unlock the members of these strange
encounters. And as we might imagine, these
stations brought forward some remarkable revelations, it says.
To begin with, Hopkins would focus on the evening.
In early in the early 1970s, when Terry and her husband were
returning home after a day at the Jersey Shore, the journey
had begun as normal. However, at some stage, Terry's
husband had suddenly turned off the main road and headed down
several quieter side roads. There you go, It's unexplainable
behavior. Terry recalled that although she
didn't, although he didn't appear fully himself, her
husband made several purposeful turns, as if he knew exactly
where he was going. Even stranger, Terry recalled
how not only did she not ask her husband why he had suddenly
taken them off the main road, but both remain completely
silent, as if nothing out of the ordinary had taken place.
It's like they're under some kind of hypnosis, it says.
Then this strange behavior turned even stranger when
Terry's husband suddenly brought the car off the road and
proceeded to drive into the middle of a field.
Once there, he calmly brought the vehicle to a stop and turned
off the engine the parry made inside the vehicle, neither
saying a word to each other. It was clear to Hopkins from
Terry's description at the moment that both were in some
kind of catatonic state. The next saying Terry could
recall is that several small Gray aliens appeared from
somewhere and took the pair out of the car, leading them to a
strange object that seemingly landed in the field nearby.
A rant protruded from this craft, which the aliens led
Terry and her husband up. Once they're inside the craft,
Terry and her husband were then separated.
Terry was taken to some kind of examination room where she was
relieved of her clothes and then placed on a table in the middle
of the room. Although she didn't understand
how she knew, she sensed that her unborn baby was the focus of
these alien creatures. This of course is something that
comes up a lot with repeat abductees and something we will
examine briefly later. These procedures and
examinations went on for an undetermined amount of time,
after which Terry was led back to the ramp.
There her husband, still seemingly in the same trans like
state as before, was waiting for her.
They were both taken back to their vehicle.
The next memory, the next memory Terry had, was realizing it was
suddenly dark, and I'm feeling confused as to why they were
sitting in the car in the middle of the field as her husband
started the car himself. Equally confused as to how they
had arrived there, Terry began to ask him what had happened.
Her questioning irritated him, likely due to his own confusion,
and ignored her, making it clear he wished her to be quiet.
This, however, was not the only change in her husband's behavior
following the strange incident. As the weeks went by, he became
increasingly aware, even paranoid, about the security of
their apartment. So much so that he would check
and then recheck all the doors and windows several times a day.
Once more, This is an interesting detail that shows up
in other abductees, often before they are even aware that
anything untoward has taken place.
Betty Barney Hill, for example, each experienced this one their
abduction encounter along with the abduction itself.
That was clear to them. However, when Terry gave birth
to their child, her husband's behavior, you're even more
intense. Wow.
This would be, I think, just such a stressful situation to be
in. If you really believe that
you've been abducted and then you're not sure your wife's
pregnant, you have beginning to have thoughts of well as this
child. An alien hybrid possibly.
Or is this child just some a human that they're using as a
carrier or some gene or some trait?
You have a lot of questions in your mind.
One particular day, not long after the birth of their first
child, Terry heard the sounds of tools and chains outside of
their second floor apartment in the hallway.
When she ventured into the hallway to investigate, she was
shocked to see that her husband had fitted the door with several
sturdy bolts and chain lock. Only these were fitted on the
outside. When she questioned her husband
on the matter, he informed her matter of factly that when he
left for work, he would chain the door and then lock it with a
heavy padlock. This of course would mean she
was essentially locked in the apartment while she while he was
away, something that was her husband claimed for her own
protection. Needless to say, the pair
quarreled over the matter with Terry insisting that his
reaction was extreme to say the least.
Ultimately, Terry would later form Hopkins.
It was this behavior as it progressed that led to the
husband separating and then divorcing.
However, now, years later, she could see where his change in
behavior came from and why her husband changed so much so
quickly. As Hosman.
As Hopkins continued to investigate Terry's abduction
counter, other strange details emerged, the details that Terry
had not all connected to the strange occurrences.
Perhaps one of the most intriguing of these was her
memories of the man who knew too Much.
And it is to those revelations that we will turn our attention
to next, the author says. Goes on here, it says.
At his request, Terry began to tell Hopkins of a time when she
was 16 years old and still in high school.
On this particular day, she was sitting in a pizza parlor with
several friends when a man approached their table.
He was in his 50s or 60s and dressed in a neat suit and tie.
You have to wonder if it was black.
The man asked Terry if she would like a summer job and if she
would like to interview for one. Now that's weird.
Terry, wanting to earn some extra money, said she would very
much like to interview for a job and gave the man her details so
that he could pick her up the following day.
Now I realized this would have been back in the 19 what, 60s or
something, but that's still some very strange, troubling
behavior. The following day is he said he
would The man arrived at her home.
At this point, Hopkins highlighted how strange it was
that both Terry and her mother were perfectly at ease with the
situation. After all, this gentleman was a
complete stranger who offered no proof of who he was.
Nevertheless, Terry left her house and got into the car
without even considering that she could be putting herself in
danger. However, almost immediately
after getting in the vehicle, Terry began to feel a sense of
trepidation and even rising within her.
The man began asking her questions, revealing that he
knew details about her that almost no one else did.
For example, he would inform her bluntly that although she was
happy now, she wasn't happy when her father left something she
couldn't understand how he knew about.
He then offered her that she had liked living with her
grandparents, which caused Terry to ask if he knew her family,
and he replied that he didn't, he merely knew her.
He went on to reveal further details of her life, even in the
previous day. Despite this truly bizarre turn
of events. When they arrived at the
location, Terry followed the man into what was ultimately an
empty office space to conduct the interview, an already
strained situation that was about to get a lot stranger and
darker. The interview began innocently
enough, with the man telling Terry that the business would be
open in two weeks time, and that although she couldn't recall the
specifics of the business, she did recall that it involved
trucks and people. He led her to a desk that he
said she would be working from, basically answering the phone as
well as taking messages and keeping records.
Then, however, the man's demeanor changed.
He began making advances toward her, even placing his hands
around her waist. She pulled herself away from
him, attempting to make it clear that she was uncomfortable.
Undeterred, the man then stated that the job depended very much
on her, reciprocating his advances to this, she responded
that she no longer wanted to wanted the job and that she
wished to go home rather than flying into a rage, which she
fully expected him to do. The man back down and began
leading them back out of the room, saying simply all right,
but you are the but you are the one I want.
The pair walked to the car and they set off, both remaining
quiet. However, rather than taking the
route back to her house, the strange man took a turn down
roads that Terry didn't recognize.
When she asked where they were going, the man replied that he
had to stop off somewhere to quickly see a friend.
The further they got into the middle of nowhere that
increasingly, she felt scared. Eventually, the man brought the
car to a stop outside a small twostory house.
He went to get out of the car, asking Terry to wait in the
vehicle for him rather than making a run for it.
As a man walked to the house, she simply slumped down to the
seat and watched him approach and watched him approach the
front door. As Hopkins asked her to view
these events further, it became clear that the house was not a
house at all. The more she looked at the
house, the more it began to change.
She realized it wasn't a two-story house at all, but one
level with the smooth roof. The more she concentrated, the
more the house looked funny, elaborating that it keeps going
back and forth. It looks like a house, then it
looks like not a house. Then she made a particularly
revealing claim. She offered that the house looks
all metal and that there were little windows along the bottom,
and when she looked at the door, it also looks strange, like an
awning. But it's not an awning.
She also had some startling revelations about the overall
scene, specifically just who the Mister man was meeting.
She recalled there were several other ones, and that they were
smaller and all looked the same with no hair.
By comparison, the man looked like a giant standing next to
them. She also recalled that these
smaller creatures appeared to have a great interest in her as
they all turned their attention to the car, staring intently
inside at her. Then one of them approached the
side of the car and opened the door.
As soon as the door was opened to her, stepped outside and sure
why she was doing so, almost as if she wasn't fully in control
of her own decision making and movements.
She further recalled that she was feeling scared.
But I'm not doing anything, although the following details
were sketchy and a little disoriented to her.
Recalled another other creatures approaching them and then
walking with her. She recalled that there was no
apparent destination to the walk, simply that they'll walk
down a dirt road and then walk back.
The next thing she realized she was back inside the car.
We have to imagine that something occurred during this
walk. Well, clearly to me, this
woman's being manipulated, you know, and this goes back to one
of the motives of these things. I mean if that was just taken
basically mind control somebody and to do everything from
strange experiments up to physical assault.
You have to. You really have to.
You really have to take this information in as you assign a
personality profile to these aliens.
Clearly what Terry was was describing was some kind of
meeting between the man and several Gray alien creatures.
Furthermore, the house, at least what she perceived and recalled
as a house, was in fact an apparent disc or Oval shaped
object, ultimately UFO. Following these revelations,
Terry recalled how the man simply returned to the car and
drove her home. Indeed, there are many details
in Terry's account that resonate with other UFO and alien
abduction counters, and you can go ahead and like I said, I'll
put a link and you can read that if you want to.
But what I take from this first part of this article you're
talking about this Terry Winthrop case is that at first
she had memories of 1 alien abduction and then there was a
second one. And then as Hopkins took her
into this hypnotic regression, she started to remember details.
And she basically came up with what would have been a third
alien abduction, But before that first alien abduction.
And there seemed to be this interview process where she was
picked out of a crowd by the strange person, which she
thought was a person which maybe was just some sort of humanoid
alien. And they interview her, they
select her. And even though she tries to get
away from him, you find that she's she's she is just
basically her. Her will is overridden.
So you could safely say she was forced against her will into
this very first abduction as a teenager and who knows what
happened on there. But then through important
points in her life, like when she gets married and when she's
pregnant with this first child, she undergoes this, this alien
abduction again. So you start off with this
interview, then you have an immediate abduction, then you
have a second abduction that when she gets pregnant, and then
the third almost like a followup abduction down the road as if
they're tracking her. I think definitely is going on
here from the interview process to these multiple abductions
into the alien implants. And and you know what?
It's one of those things that you never hear brought up in any
of these congressional hearings. Until next time, this is UFO
warning, over and out.