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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO morning and this episode. 

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We're talking about alien 
implants before and after that's

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correct alien implants before. 
And after now, this article 

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comes to us from mufon.com and 
the title is alien implant 

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removals Before. 
And After Effects, now we've 

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talked about alien plants on the
podcast before because I think 

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there's some of the best 
evidence that we have that these

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UFOs and these ET entities, 
whatever they are do exist, and 

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that they're having Any physical
reactions and interactions with 

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subjects people on Earth, people
claim that they were abducted 

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their return to their home, or 
wherever. 

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And then later on, they notice 
that they have this implant 

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stuck under their skin and the 
muscle tissue, whatever. 

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And plants frequently are found 
to be emitting radio 

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transmissions. 
And also is in these implants 

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are frequently made of metal 
alloys that we just don't 

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understand. 
Now, the article begins its the 

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several years. 
After the surgical removal of 

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their alleged alien implants, 
five individuals courageously 

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accepted to take part in an 
interview to discuss your before

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and after effects, all persons 
one male for female shared, one 

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thing in common UFO. 
Encounters and contact with 

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non-human alien beings dr. 
Robert dr. 

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Roger leir, a podiatrist from 
Thousand Oaks California, 

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founder of first that's fun for 
interactive research and space 

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technology and Derrel Sims. 
A certified hypnotherapist 

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co-founder of first and To UFO 
investigator of over 27 years. 

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Orchestrated the successful 
surgeries with a team of 

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competent medical professionals 
and volunteers. 

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The first set of implants 
surgeries took place on August 

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19th, 1995 a doctor, Roger 
layers Podiatry, Clank and 

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Thousand Oaks California. 
Now, of course, dr. 

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Leir, has since passed on and 
these operations would have 

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taken Faith Place won't 28 years
ago now, it says Pat peroneal. 

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A 47 year old male from Houston,
Texas, and Mary Jo. 

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Jones, it's a pseudonym 52. 
Also, from Texas, had the 

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anonymous objects appear at 
x-rays, although both UFO 

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experiencers had no record of 
previous surgeries. 

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Both individuals were 
investigated by Derrel, Sims of 

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who of hoof on as Chief 
investigator for Houston, UFO 

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Network and refer to dr. 
Lior for surgery, based on their

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past UFO, encounters and x-rays,
which confirmed the anonymous 

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objects. 
Pat's object was removed from 

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the back of his left hand and 
Mary's object. 

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Is excised from her left. 
Big toe. 

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All services were performed free
of charge. 

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Now, I have to thank have 
nothing in your big toe. 

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Cannot have been comfortable. 
It says, the alleged implants 

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removed from the first set of 
surgeries were studied by two 

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different pathologist and then 
sent to various independent 

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Laboratories for extensive 
scientific analysis. 

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The tests performed on these 
alleged alien implants were 

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pathology tissue evaluation 
Nikolas, just a ton of tests 

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that they did on these Sings 
there. 

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Just everything you can think of
the test, the test of metal 

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composition. 
All these things were made, is 

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guys, you're doing it. 
It says tests were conducted by 

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the National Institute of 
discovery of science, that's 

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Ned's, many of you will 
recognize that as an 

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organization that bleep was 
founded by Robert Bigelow, New 

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Mexico Tech and other 
independent sources. 

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So they had multiple independent
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Look at these things, but that 
is not all well. 

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These unusual objects were being
evaluated for scientific study. 

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Another set of implants 
surgeries Place on May 18th 

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1996, two women from the second 
set of surgeries came forward 

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for this interview and follow-up
study Dorothy o'hare's a 61 year

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old female from Palm Springs. 
California and a lease Levy 40 

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from Newbury Park, California 
each had similar objects removed

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from their left lower leg. 
Another woman Lucia Davison 237,

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who has had numerous UFO and 
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Encounters had a rare 
crystalline like object removed 

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from her foot and January of 97 
so those are the five different 

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individuals of five different 
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The / was interesting. 
A rare crystalline like object 

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removed from her foot. 
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metal but not always the 
findings of these implant 

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surgeries are highly unusual, 
reported doctor earlier, and all

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these cases, there was virtually
no inflammatory response. 

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This is not the usual finding in
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normally deep bodies embedded in
a tissue result in some type of 

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acute or chronic inflammatory 
response and may include 

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fibrosis and create formation. 
Such was not the case here, but 

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naturally, you would think that 
something that had invaded the 

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body like that, the body is 
going to respond to it with an 

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immune response. 
Obviously some kind of card Scar

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Tissue. 
Something the pathology reports 

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of the first two surgeries 
revealed that the metallic 

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objects were encased in a very 
dense, tough gray membrane 

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consisting of protein kinases 
collagen, he most Sheridan and 

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pure keratin, it more, simply 
blood protein and skin cells 

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that are usually found in The 
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The tough biological cocoons, 
encasing, the implants were also

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I found to contain, no nerve 
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cells of the wrong tissue type 
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Part of the body, these implant 
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Also Floresta, a bright green 
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ultraviolet, lights, and in the 
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light source. 
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are wrap them and some sort of 
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First off the you skin cells 
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Very deep inside the skin, 
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Secondly there were there was 
genetic material from different 

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parts of the body mixed in. 
It's like they used to use some 

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sort Slurry of the person's own 
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To make the body work against 
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some sort of skin like 
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Even though all of the actual 
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for that came from some other 
part of the body clearly this 

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has been manipulated. 
Second weird thing that these 

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cocoons, they were encased in 
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put them under the ultraviolet, 
light source, the implants, from

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two women. 
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did not exhibit metallic 
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Like the it Plants from the 
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In fact, the spheroid Weiss 
objects did not did not contain 

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the tough biological outer 
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light source, these types of 
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also lack. 
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response according to the 
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The crystalline like object, 
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In the most recent surgery, also
lacked the tough gray outer 

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membrane and had virtually, no. 
Inflammatory response is any 

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other implant surgeries test 
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implants revealed that the lamb 
ruler needle shaped metal object

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in question are basically 
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at least 11 different elements. 
Wow, it almost seems like these 

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things are evolving and 
progressing as they go along the

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first couple times, it had to 
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skin cocoon. 
Looks like they derive the DNA 

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from the very victims that they 
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and DNA from parts of the body 
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naturally. 
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on from that to where they're 
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there. 
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destroy them, or reject them 
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subdue this inflammatory 
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And then finally, we have this /
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crystalline where it seems like 
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Enron mineraloid taken. 
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lady wasn't just walking along 
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by a meteorite fragment. 
And not notice it, it says in an

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interview with alien magazine 
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Derrel, Sims commented on The 
Uncommon, non rejecting human 

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response to the implants. 
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membrane may have been the 
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If this is the case, it appears 
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wrapped in a sheath of 
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fiber then surrounded the tissue
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larger nerves. 
The fact that both persons from 

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the first set of surgery, 
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physically could be an 
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This nerve system of this nerve 
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Smith mr. 
Simms believes that indications 

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are very strong that these 
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origin, but mr. 
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scientists say, Who have 
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That is what we will is what we 
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Simms has stated in a scientific
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Before. 
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This is the standard course of 
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Endeavor, I'm not so sure about 
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Because clearly these things you
see what you have. 

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We can't explain it and it's 
just too easy for other 

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scientists to come along and 
say, well that's not what really

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happened here, you know. 
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of natural occurrence, it's the 
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whatever. 
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Sims that we guess have to defer
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this sort of thing as he points 
out here, the patient's objected

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to this. 
So it's as if these implants are

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actually over writing, the Free 
Will of the individuals who 

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they've been implanted in. 
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take it aboard this craft 
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Had experiments and procedures 
run on them against their will 

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and planted with a foreign alien
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But then when the surgeon goes 
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struggling and resisting because
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clearly from these implants. 
That's what it looks like to me.

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It goes on here, a little bit is
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our best ally. 
Okay, whatever. 

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If the alien abductors are 
responsible for implanting 

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objects, the bodies of these 
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then, are the aliens cognizant 
of the fact that the implants 

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have been removed. 
So, the next question was posed,

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do you experience any UFO, 
sightings alien? 

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Abductions odd dreams. 
Missing time or paranormal 

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events just prior to or after 
the implant surgery within a 

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month. 
Pat Pat, Pat Pat piran Elio 

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revealed. 
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And Set of events took place 
with another witness involving 

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an orange glowing UFO one 
evening, about a week before the

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surgery after the surgery, I 
noticed that my psychic 

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abilities seem to decrease. 
So, after she has this thing 

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taken out, she asked that you 
have folks encounter. 

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It's like, it's checking up on 
her and then she says that her 

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psychic Abilities. 
Have decreased, both Linda, and 

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Alice did not recall any unusual
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implant Mary. 
Experienced a rear pain and 

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swelling in her toe and foot 
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At that time. 
Every revealed I knew exactly 

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where the objects were in my 
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I can feel them prior to that. 
Mary had no pain or sensation of

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that kind in her toe, what was 
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Bet it was that the was that the
moment I stepped out of a car to

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meet Darrell Sims. 
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paying stocked maybe the same 
just gave up and left. 

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The real question one may wonder
about is now that the implants 

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have been removed, will the 
aliens continue to come back and

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abduct? 
The abductees all individuals 

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except Mary Jones or able to 
answer it with resulting? 

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Yes. 
Wow Alice elaborated on an 

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abduction. 
She had two months after the 

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implant surgery, I retired to 
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been a look at 1 a.m. because 
the whole bedroom lit up like 

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daylight. 
He looked at the clock reached 

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over to touch me and found that 
I was gone paradoxically, my 

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husband quickly went back to 
sleep the next day, I felt very 

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ill. 
I don't recall anything during 

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the night, but I noticed the 
next day that my dog had 

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nervously called several areas. 
And the house is, if you were 

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trying to escape something 
frightening and to change and as

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to changes in health, mood 
dreams are psychic phenomena 

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after the surgery all five 
agreed as to some type of Change

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Mary Jones. 
Simply stated that she had felt 

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a sense of Peace after her 
object was removed, Dorothy 

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commented. 
I felt tremendous sense of 

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relief after the surgery will 
see remark, yes. 

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I had a dramatic and 
intermediate mood lift after the

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object was removed from my foot.
I also stopped having to paint 

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and that weird. 
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my foot the most striking 
changes when it about Dorothy. 

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I had several diuretic effects 
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Wait a week, following the 
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And then my health progressively
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Gina and edema, the heart 
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complication from previous from 
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my late 20s. 
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fatigue and cannot concentrate 
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after which, my energy and help 
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creativity, and mental Clarity. 
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writer. 
Hey, I had a startling 

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Improvement in my memory while I
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alien abduction from 1991. 
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first time I was able to pierce 
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abduction. 
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process the memory, it was 
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emotionally in hindsight after 
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for me from illness, I felt 
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On the other hand, there are 
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Instead simply stated. 
Yes, a part of me. 

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Which really, which remains 
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changes. 
A paradigm going to have to 

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wonder Talking about there. 
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were under intense. 
Psychological pressure to me 

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Alice, Northeast shared a common
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their surgeries Alice remarked 
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had shooting pains in my left 
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turned bright red and hurt, and 
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Also, around the same time, I 
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that later came true in exact 
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Yes. 
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reaction my leg and implants Our
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I felt shooting pain in my leg 
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The season scar, turned bright 
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Could these changes in the 
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their views of the UFO? 
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admitted he was basically in 
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phenomena previous to the 
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seems like the more one becomes 
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The fact, the more I realize, I 
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sense that something is 
accelerating. 

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He concurred with Pat and that 
she fully believe the UFO 

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phenomenon, was all nonsense 
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Realize I have been able to work
through many issues in my life 

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now that I am no longer in 
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Now I have a more practical and 
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I'm more concerned with helping 
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Not promoting some new agent, 
metaphysical philosophy, married

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also admitted. 
She had no interest or knowledge

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of the UFO Abduction. 
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Mary added I have no real 
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Cannot deny. 
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Lucy. 
Sia and Alice had a good 

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knowledge and belief in the UFO 
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Filled the CEO stated that her 
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the best way. 
I can describe it as he 

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explained is that I have had a 
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highest of highs and lowest of 
lows, Alice admitted previously,

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I felt that aliens were possibly
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his life and my abductions 
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I think aliens have a let's just
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It's not a good job. 
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orders. 
Now, that tells me she's under 

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intense mind control because any
reasonable person, can see that 

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the way these things are 
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It's just an inherently wrong, 
it's inherently evil and for 

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them to just say they had a job 
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That's the same thing that the 
guards and Executioner's and the

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prison camps and Nazi. 
Germany said, this is not an 

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okay, excuse it goes on and says
many people in the UF in the UFO

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Community, have their head in 
the clouds and believe in. 

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Overly benevolent fanciful, 
spiritual philosophy. 

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There is not enough critical 
analysis. 

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I have learned. 
I have learned more from 

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one-on-one conversations that 
other abductees from the public 

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lecture sucker. 
As to the US government covering

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up the UFO, affects the general,
public. 

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All individuals. 
Agree else can Alice concluded? 

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Yes, especially the Roswell New 
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Most of the implant, he's 
described noteworthy. 

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Mental physical or health 
related changes following their 

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implant surgeries for them. 
Reported a continuation of some 

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type of alien abduction 
activity, the two women who had 

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the biological type implants 
removed experience strikingly 

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similar post-surgical changes 
involving shooting pains and 

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reading of the incision area for
a short period of time, the 

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important thing to consider here
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over-reliance on physical test. 
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are not substantial enough to 
solve the implant. 

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Mystery little on the question 
of the alien presence if not 

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then what is the lives and 
experiences of the abductees 

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themselves, tell us that we need
to stop. 

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And listen, the answer lies 
somewhere in between science and

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the hearts of people remember 
this. 

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The one thing that we have is an
advantage over any alien entity 

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over any kind of artificial. 
Intelligence is our emotional 

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intelligence. 
If whatever these things are can

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deaden can stop that. 
Emotional intelligence then 

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they've got us. 
That's the most important lesson

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from this. 
Until next time, this is your 

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phone running over and out. 
Until next time, this is your 

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phone running over and out.