Hello, and welcome to the program and UFO warning.
And this episode, we're talking about a UFO encounter at Devil's
Den. That's correct.
A UFO encounter at Devil's Den. Now, the title says strange UFO,
encounters and Missouri with Terry Lovelace and it begins by
giving a little bit of a bio here.
Entry-level us. He says, I'm 64 course this is
six years ago. Five years ago, I spent six
years in the US Air Force. I have a bachelor's degree in
psychology. And a law degree from.
You know, you of em School of Law, TMC campus.
I passed the Michigan bar exam on my first attempt and was in
private practice until I entered government service for the u.s.
territory of American Samoa because long talks about working
in Samoa, then he ends up going to Vermont where he is assistant
AG for the state of Vermont. And then he says, I've been
married for 42 years. My wife and I were active line,
club members and volunteered our time and efforts for their
mission to stop blindness. We have two adult children who
live near us and Dallas. I've never abused substances or
been arrested, but for these events my life has been ordinary
and all regards. So what he's telling you is he's
a stand-up guy. I mean, as his law license, he's
been, he's a military guy. Assistant AG for Vermont.
Some guys got a lot of power, man.
I mean these are the guys that put you in prison, if they
suspect and get convictions. So we've entrusted this Guy with
the power to determine whether or not people are guilty of
serious crimes and put them in prison for perhaps the rest of
their life. This is what you would call it
expert. Witness, just keep that in mind
historian for the 1970s. He says, I grew up in urban St.
Louis after graduating high school in 1973, I joined the US
Air Force and was trained as a medic EMT.
I was stationed permanently at Whiteman Air Force Base, for the
next five and a half years. WAFB was at sa sea bass home to
a squadron of Killer armed B-52s.
It was also the home of the 350. First strategic missile wing
with dozens of missile, silo spread across central western
Missouri. This area was very sparsely
populated in the 70s, air base is a half-a-day drive north of
Devil's Den. So this is guy that's been, you
know, he's joined the Air Force. He's working at the space, these
people are entrusted with our nuclear Arsenal, kind of a big
deal, he says, I drove an ambulance.
Alms for the base hospital and work graveyard shift from 11
p.m. to 8 a.m. my partner was a younger Airman.
First Class, I'll refer to as Toby together, we were First
Responders to accidents injuries on base or any other missile
silos. Toby was from Urban, Flint
Michigan. He was a 20 year old kid with a
gift for mathematics. We hope to attend the University
of Michigan and study astronomy. Coincidentally.
I attempted law school at U of M, I attended law school rather
at U of M years later, Toby was an amateur astronomer and on
most warm evenings with set on the ambulance ramp and lawn
chairs. And watch the sky, waiting for
the crash phone to ring. Because Lonnie says in January
of 1975 are Christ phone rang at about 2 a.m. a missile
technician servicing, an ICBM fell inside a siloed, designated
kilo 5, a whole boy. That would, that would not be
fun. The dispatch was Phil on facts
and the radio was unusually quiet.
Without the routine chatter. I drove the ambulance while Toby
navigated, it was 18 miles to kilo 5 in a desolate area in the
middle of a soybean field. We arrived at a chaotic scene, a
dozen Security place in 30 guys, with M16s ran around, looking
up, I found a captain in charge, you ordered me to parking a
balance and stay put then Toby noticed a matte black diamond
shaped. Object, hovering 20 or so feet
over kilo 5. It was as big as a full-size
van. I look for wires or some
explanation as to how this thing could just sit in midair
mentally was difficult to process.
We watch this thing. Sit for about 15 minutes, then
it just shot off to the east from a dead.
Stop to the speed of a bullet without accelerating.
Wow. So it was just instant, it
wasn't like I had to speed up and go.
This thing just took off at basically what something the
speed of light we were debriefed on our reports were Rewritten,
our CEO told us the object was an experimental helicopter and
top secret. Now does that sound like a an
experimental helicopter to you? We knew back then he was full of
shit and had no idea what we saw.
We were sternly warned not to talk about it and were asked to
surrender any drones. We may have made two years
later, my friend Toby, two years later, my friend Toby and I are
still working. The night shift at the ER one
night Toby, suggested we go on a camping trip.
I enjoy Wildlife photography and had a new camera.
I wanted to try photography was not allowed on the base Toby and
I were both City kids. Neither one of us had ever been
camping in our lives. There were plenty of National
Forest Campgrounds, all around us, but Toby convince me, the
long drive to To Devil's Den was worth it because it offered one
a high Plateau where he could stargaze without light
pollution. And to I could photograph
wildlife and scenery he was again.
Staying at the parks Campground, comparing it to camping in a
parking lot in the woods. So we trespassed deep into the
Nature. Preserve that was off-limits and
set up our camp on the edge of a plateau budding, a tree line.
Don't you love that how the government just likes to create?
Eight off-limits areas and for the creditors.
I mean it just seems like such a convenient way for them to hide
things. Yes, we have this area of
hundreds or thousands of Acres were people.
Can't go because it's a wildlife.
Preserve, how convenient he says when we were four hours into our
Drive, South toward the Arkansas border, I realized my camera,
I'm I realized I left my camera on my kitchen counter.
It was a big disappointment, but I was determined to make the
best of it. We did bring our small tent,
insect repellent, and sunscreen, and enough food, and water for
two overnights. On our first night, we were
exhausted from hike. We took when we first arrived, a
long drive and setting up a campsite about 9:00 p.m.
Toby noticed three stars on Horizon, they made a perfect
triangle. There were small at first and
moved in perfect Unison. Guess what those weren't Stars?
It became obvious. This was one solid object, and
not three independent lights. Orchestrated to move and perfect
to move and perfect information. We watched it.
End and grow closer and much larger until it was directly
over the top of our campsite. We notice that as it passed
through a star-filled, it blotted them out until it moved
past, then they would blink back on.
So it was one solid object. So, here you go, you've got
this, these two guys who just had previously witnessed this
UFO hovering over a missile silo and now they hear the art of
camping. Rip and once again, the two of
them are witnessing, another UFO.
It was odd that at first, this thing in the sky made us anxious
but that soon dissipated, we notice a whole forest was now
dead silent. When an hour earlier, it had
been alive but the Crickets and tree frogs.
While this thing was over our heads, we became abruptly
disinterested, we were all so suddenly drowsy not tire, but
almost sedated at midnight, we just Decided to get into the
tent and go to sleep. The apathy puzzles me to this
day. It seems to me as though maybe
this this sedating effect that this thing had on these two,
gentlemen, was the same thing that the wildlife, the animals,
the insects all the little frogs were experiencing its, whether
it's putting out some sort of radio wave or some sort of, you
know, chemical agent. We don't know.
But it does seem like these things frequently are associated
with people becoming apathetic or tired or sedated.
This is Woke up at 3 a.m. to brilliant multicolored lights,
white yellow, and orange illuminated.
The inside of our 10th through a rear small, net window, I saw
the force behind us lit up like a night game.
At the Ballpark, I noticed my clothing and boots were all
asked you. I pushed Toby aside, so we could
both look outside toward the meadow.
There was an enormous UFO as large as a five story office
building. It was a Eagle with each leg
being about a city block in length.
It was 50 foot tall and set stationary, 30 feet over the
metal floor. There was a there was a noise
to. It was a low bass hum or drone,
not so much loud. As it was powerful, it was like
standing next to a running diesel train engine or a large
industrial machine. Imagine this thing an enormous
UFO as large as a five story office building, it was a
triangle with each leg being about a city block in length.
This thing was enormous. We saw what I first took to be
children, walking around the meadow underneath the triangle
classic case of entities, there was a column of white light
about 30 feet in diameter shining down from the center of
the triangle. We watch these little people
walked into the light and just dissolve.
L've one by one until they were gone, the hum stopped and a
corner lights. All returned to brilliant white,
the white cylinder, from the middle stopped, and the thing
Rose about like a hot air balloon, it made a 1/3 clockwise
rotation and continued its Ascent picking up speed until it
was high in the sky then gone while we were apathetic earlier.
Now we were scared out of our wits, we have banded our
campsite and ran to the car drove back to the base, Toby
left his backpack. His name and Base address
written inside. This is how they were able to
find us so quickly. Well, that's weird.
He said that they went into this Wildlife.
Preserve area had to trespass to get in there because this is one
of those areas where the state or the feds, whoever decide that
this is only a place for animals to go.
People aren't allowed. You know, I thought the whole
point of preserving wildlife and nature was so that humans could
enjoy it. But no, this is a part for
squirrels and UFO is apparently It says both of us suffered
severe sun burns all over our bodies.
It almost sounds like radiation poisoning even as soles of my
feet were burned. We were terribly dehydrated and
we spent a couple days in hospital, man.
That's serious. Now, this kind of gets back to
this whole thing about these people, we talked about the
Stanford study where we're for 100 individuals who have had
encounters with UFOs reported having serious damage brain
damage. Even what were they?
Doctor said it looked like it was damaged similar to what
happens to a person has Ms. When you have this fibers buildup on
the nerves or whatever. Some of them I think even had
tumors are cancer. So this this this whole thing
where people are injured by these things, wow, he says, we
were terribly dehydrated and we spent a couple days in hospital.
The same hospital where we worked, while hospitalized we
were A great is separately by two men in business suits, they
identify themselves a special agents from The OSI.
The OSI is the office of special investigations.
It's the investigative arm of the US Air Force Security place.
I recall, the older man was a major and the younger Captain so
they did just send over a couple of privates to talk to these
guys. They demanded that I hand over
the film, I took during the trip, I told them I left my
camera at home, my wife backed up that story but they wouldn't
believe us. My car and home were searched.
I was interrogated. A second time, I do SI
headquarters They had the mistaken belief, I had
photographed. This thing.
I wish I had my best friend began to drink.
He was quickly reassigned and we were ordered to have no contact
with another one. Another, until the investigation
closed. I learned that day that Toby
began drinking heavily and was divorced and discharged from the
US Air Force. He died homeless on the streets
of flint and 1982. Oh, that's just awful.
That's it, seems this openness this It was so impactful, on
this talented, intelligent young guy, but his life just collapsed
after that intermittently over the next 10 years, I was plagued
with Dreadful, nightmares about that night.
That my wife suggestion, I began to keep a journal of my
nightmares. I kept a pen and paper by my
bedside, and I did my best to document each Nightmare Before
the evaporated. I think that helped me ever
since 1977. I am uncomfortable being outside
in Open Spaces, especially after dark, I sleep with a light or
the television on, I keep a loaded 38.
See by my loaded, 38 by my bedside table and a high.
Intensity flashlight. I'm uncomfortable around elderly
Asian women for some odd reason, I feel anxious at the mall when
we walk past a widow and window display with naked mannequins,
in the window, I have to think this guy was abducted.
I mean, that's, that's the vibe that I'm getting off of this.
Something had happened to us. It doubles down.
My heart goes out to the family of this young man who went
missing in August of last year. There is a PostScript.
I became a non competitive runner in 1980 Iran until I had
a heart problem. 2005, when I ran, there was a spot on my
right leg, the size of a half dollar that went completely
numb. Every time I passed the
two-mile, Mark, every time, it would remain them for 30 or so
minutes. In 2012, I had an x-ray of my
leg following an accident. If you look at the X-ray and
have a picture of it here, too. The very top and far right
you'll see a metal object, the size of a postage stamp, it is
directly over. What I call my num spot, there
is no scars to indicate the site.
Where this thing entered my body, according to radiologist
abstinence car, I would have had to have been born with this
thing, in my leg, the X-ray bright with it.
Intrusive thoughts, and terrible images from 1977.
This is a classic replaced repressed, rather memories From
an abduction and yet when people are so negatively impact by
these encounters, are these inductions.
It does not give me. The idea that whatever these
entities are that they're here to help after a four-year
Hiatus, nightmares about 1977 have returned and still disturb
my sleep. The book relating to the story
incident Devil's Den. A True Story by Terry levels can
be bought at Amazon. Wow.
That's that is riveting. We have a couple other things
here. It says here.
Now this articles talking about the same thing, this is from the
guardian.com He says what I saw that night was real.
It's time to take a lian's more seriously and this says, it
starts offices in June the US government published a
long-awaited report into UFOs. Although the report did not as
many had hoped admit to the existence of a little green,
man, it did reveal that, not only were objects appearing in
our skies at the Pentagon, which controls the US military can I
explain, but some clearly pose a safety of flight you shoe and
may pose a challenge. Challenge to US National
Security. The Pentagon also revealed that
it has been taking UFO. So seriously that in 2007 it
discreetly set up. The advanced Aerospace threat
identification program or a tap, which has been Gathering data on
an unexplained aerial phenomena ever since the unclassified
version of the report. There's also a classified
version. It says found no clear
indications that there is any non terrestrial explanation for
the sightings but neither did it roll out the report offered 5.
Giggling mundane and then it goes on talks a little bit about
that. It says a Foose enthusiasm for
UFOs and ETS have permeated popular culture ever since a US
Air Force, balloon crashed near Roswell then we don't know.
It was balloon, we've been told multiple things by the
government. This could have been a balloon
could have been a parachute with a dummy on it.
Obviously, this covered up and then launching into the
derogatory term, conspiracy theorist confuse a bloom for a
UFO Court more nonsense, Andre Abit, a professor of psychology
at Rutgers University, He co-authored we're not alone a
study into white. Some want to believe in aliens
object explains the belief. In Aliens is a can to
religiosity unfounded beliefs and unfalsifiable ideas which
require a leap of faith. You know, this is, this is the
kind of Debunking stuff it just, it's so maddening.
Now, it goes on. After we get after we Wade
through all the nonsense that this author puts out there, all
of the attempts to D person, people who have seen UFOs, he
gets clear down here. Then he says Loveless.
Now, 67 was on a camping trip and Devil's Den State Park, and
Northern Arkansas with a friend and colleague named Toby when
things got strange. They were sitting around a fire
struggling to chat over the din of buzzing crickets and crooking
tree frogs before. Within what quiet?
What sounds this, that sounds kind of cliched out of a movie.
But it is exactly what happened to us.
He says, three Bright Lights appeared on the horizon and
moved in their Direction. When the lights were overhead,
they could see that they were emanating from a black
triangular prism as wide as two city blocks, a blue laser beam,
darted over them, which Lovelace thought was scanning them.
When it shut off, they became sleepy next thing he woke, Cup
and saw Toby peering out the tent.
The triangle was hovering above what appeared to be a dozen
children standing in a meadow below them.
What are these kids doing out there in the middle of the night
said Loveless, they aren't, they aren't little kids don't you
remember? They took us and they hurt us.
Toby answered Lovelace says the moment Toby said that fragmented
memories of being inside the UFO flashed in his mind years later,
hypnosis helped him fill in more blanks and he recalled actually
encountering creatures while inside the UFO.
Now sounds like here. This article is written a little
bit later and I possibly Loveless has been doing some
work on. Releasing some of the repressed
memories you could say the guy's just trying to catch the wave of
UFO UFO. Abduction.
Stories, you almost to make my selling a book but the thing is
he appears to have an implant in his leg.
That's what really gets me NT. Secondly, this guy has a entire
history from childhood to adult of being a solid citizen.
He was a career military guy. He was an assistant AG in
Vermont and then he has this experience you know, before all
That even with this UFO. So this this happened, his life
in his 20s, but he goes on from there.
He gets his law license. He practices in Samoa, he goes
and practices in Vermont, and he's telling you about something
that happened, you know, 35 45 years before that, so it's hard
to believe that somebody who was that mentally fragile, would
have been able to be as successful as he was.
It says, for some fact that the Pentagon has finally admitted,
it cannot explain the behavior of the objects.
May have been a surprise but for PC Alan Godfrey 73.
It merely proves what he already knows on a Windswept and wet
West Yorkshire evening. And remember, 1980 Godfrey
wasn't hot pursuit of a herd of Escape cows and Todd modems
housing estate. Instead of cows, he stumbled
across a giant levitating Diamond that would change the
course of his life. Got a close encounter with this
UFO went viral worldwide and transformed todmorden into
Britain's Roswell. Godfrey a nun, no-nonsense
yorkshireman born and raised and Oldham is long retired from the
force. But still recalls the events of
that night where he came face-to-face with the peculiar
object. A diamond-shaped aircraft,
hovering five feet off the ground while spinning on its
axis. He just had time to sketch UFO
and his notepad before he was blinded, and he's next moment of
conscious awareness. He was sitting in his Patrol,
call his patrol car. The UFO was gone.
I got out of the car. I looked at the road surface and
it was likely, it was like a Whirlpool.
He says the UFOs rapid revolutions had arranged, the
dead cow Dead Leaves twigs, and other debris in Autumn theme.
Spiral in the aftermath of his encounter.
He had visits from Ministry of Defence, correspondence, from a
Russian scientist, and enters from the rules press.
He even underwent hypnosis to uncover memories of his
abduction. No, this is the second case the
structures articles little bit. Strange, to me, I mean, they
spend the first half, debunking the whole idea of UFOs and
abductions and then they give us these two really solid reports.
The first by Lovelace in the second here by Godfrey.
It says Godfrey was ridiculed for years.
Many who claim to have had encounters with UFOs or are
reluctant to go on the record for fear of the same treatment.
But things are changing. Well, we know people have fear
going on the record because they don't want to be Eda person.
And then article continues on a little bit more quote, some of
the deep State regulars that will take time to read.
There was one other one here that I just wanted to finish up
our episode because I just think this Loveless case is so
interesting. I never got a little sidetracked
there, but this one is from n.w.a. online.com.
I says, one man's UFO story, author, discusses lifetime of
extraterrestrial encounters. It says is hard to dismiss.
Cherry Loveless, as a crazy man. He was an EMT and Medic in the
Air Force earned a law degree from the University of Michigan
worked. As both a defense attorney, and
in the offices of Attorney, General always been married to
the same woman for 46 years and raised a reportedly happy.
And functional family, doesn't sound like a nut Lovelace.
Says he never intended to tell the rest of your story or to
write a book about it. Until he took up jogging in
2012, although he always suffered from nightmares and
hated being and wide open exposed places.
It was, then he noticed something about his body, he
couldn't explain every time he said, he'd hit the to Mark a
place just above his knee, would go numb.
Finally medical tests revealed an unexplained piece of metal,
the size of a fingernail. Implanted in his leg.
It says it wasn't sharp. It wasn't trapped while he'd
never been in active combat. He'd never been through surgery.
There was no entrance car and he had no memory of ever being
injured. Or did he Lovelace is the author
of incident at Devil's Den? A true story and one of the
speakers on the Russia for the 33rd annual, Ozark Mountain UFO
conference and Uric Springs which has been rescheduled says,
your for July 24th your 26. This must be from a couple years
ago. I think it says I want to be
clear from the start. He says, and interact news book.
I am not on a mission to change your mind about the topic of
UFOs were existence of alien life.
I plan to take my story to my grave, but having started to
tell it two years ago this month, when this book came out
level of says, the experience of speaking at UFO.
Conferences has largely been positive after 40 years is
speaking to juries, I have zero anxiety, speaking in front of
people. He says, I just tell my story.
En us', as honestly, as I can without embellishment people
appreciated. Something about the story seems
to resonate that with them. He has also received some 1,300
emails from people who claim. They too have been have had
experiences with ETS. Think about this guy was a
lawyer for 40 years or better. I mean he's trying criminal
cases if we really think that his story is just totally
nonsense. He's crazy.
It's bogus whatever. Then shouldn't we go back and
review every single case he's prosecuted?
I mean, honestly, that Arc we just looked at, we spend the
first half the article trying to deep person, someone like this.
How do you D person somebody who's been a prosecuting
attorney for 40 years? I mean, how do you do that when
we've trusted this guy? Not only to be at a nuclear
weapon sight, but we've trusted him to dispense Justice for
decades. And if we don't trust him, then
every single one of those cases he was involved in.
Should be looked at. I have to trust us.
I mean, he's his history is impeccable.
There is a core group of about 700 that really rang true.
He says, by phone from his home in Dallas, there's certain
Kamal, commonality, it runs through them.
He's talking about the all of the different emails.
He gets level has his own story starts, when he was a child
about eight years old, and started seeing little monkey,
like people and his bedroom at night.
It continues with, sightings of UFOs, sometimes when he was
alone, sometimes with these Air Force, buddy, Toby and sometimes
with his wife, and we're getting old.
More detail, here. This sounds like this guy was
really targeted by these things, but it was a Devil's Den
incident. That haunts him most to this
day, stationed at an Air Force stationed at an Air Force Base
in Missouri Loveless, and his EMT colleague.
Toby decided decision was very random, de site decided a
decision that was very random and out of character.
He says, to take a camping trip into Arkansas, Toby chose
Devil's Den but they didn't want to stay in the camp grounds at
this at the State Park. To be found a summit outside the
part where the intended to pitch a tent, watch the night sky, and
take photos of majestic, overlooks and animals, 24 hours
later, their lives were changed forever levels believes that
over the debt over that time period.
They both were taken aboard a spacecraft and whatever they did
to me. Toby got a double dose of it.
They never spoke about what happened, not on the drive, back
to Missouri, and not later. Except during one brief
encounter, when Loveless, assured Toby, but he wasn't
crazy. And it really did.
Happen is remembered it. Diagnosed with PTSD twice.
In recent years, level of says, writing the book was very
therapeutic for me and I'm, and I'm glad that I did.
It speaking in public was really very helpful to me to, and, to
those who say, he's simply seeking attention, Loveless, has
this response to be honest, I don't need to sell books, that's
not the object of my of the exercise.
If you think I'm a liar, there's nothing I can do to change that.
Have a nice stay, and it's a kind of a good attitude.
So, what I like about This case is that we were able to see some
stuff that he'd written. A few years ago, I went to a
book about the experience and just kind of put it out there
and just give us a outline of what happened and then it
appears as if he's been doing some kind of therapy to access
these repressed memories, which so many people that claim to
have been abducted seem to have. And he's been able to flush out
some more details, very sad that his friend, who was that Co
experiencer? Had such a tragic end to his
life. I have to say I really find this
case believable, not just you know partly on the character of
this Loveless but also from the x-rays of this.
What appears pretty obvious to me to be an alien implant found
there in his leg? And I think that the third
article we looked at just goes to show these kinds of
experiences. They aren't just It's not just
Loveless, it has them. These experiences have been had
by many people all across the planet and they've been had by
people that, you know, law enforcement military people that
we consider to be reliable Witnesses.
Until next time, this is UFO warning over now