1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,200 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,680 In this episode, we're talking about Immaculate Constellation. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,280 That's correct, Immaculate Constellation. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Now, this is a new program that's come to light, a UFO 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,680 program, a secret program that the government's been running, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 reportedly. At least that's what we're told 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 by the whistleblower. But before I get into it, I want 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,240 to just define the terms. What is Immaculate and what is 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,240 constellation? A lot of you probably already 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,000 know. Some of you might not be quite 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,520 sure. If we go to Merriam Webster 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,480 Dictionary, we find that the word Immaculate means spotlessly 13 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:45,640 clean, having or containing no flaw or error, having no stain 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,640 or blemish as in an Immaculate heart, having no colored spots 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,720 or marks used. Especially in botany and 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,160 zoology, a petal can be Immaculate. 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,640 Of course, many of us are familiar with the term 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Immaculate Conception. This idea, if you're a 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,560 Christian, the truth that Christ was born through the Virgin 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,040 Mary, therefore the conception was Immaculate. 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Seems like it might be a slightly strange term to use for 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,080 a UFO program, but we'll get into that. 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,360 The second part of this puzzle that we're looking at is the 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,760 term constellation. Of course, that's much easier. 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,400 A group of stars forming a recognizable pattern that is 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,560 traditionally named after its apparent form or identified with 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,040 a mythological figure. Modern astronomers divide the 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,560 sky into 88 constellations with defined boundaries. 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Or it could be known as a group or cluster of related things. 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 So you kind of have this idea. So I guess we're talking about a 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,360 perfect cluster, a perfect group, a perfect constellation 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,400 of stars. Perhaps. 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,280 The first article that we're looking at comes to us from 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:03,280 tribune.com dot PK Immaculate Constellation Pentagon 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,360 whistleblower reveals a secret UFO program A Pentagon 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,200 whistleblower has exposed a secret UFO program, alleging the 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,400 military had key information from Congress Dated October 9th, 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,680 2004. A recent revelation by a 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Pentagon whistleblower has disclosed the existence of a 40 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,480 highly classified government program called Immaculate 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,640 Constellation. Reported by journalist Michael 42 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:32,840 Schoenberger on his Substack newsletter Public, this secret, 43 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:36,720 unacknowledged spatial access program allegedly deals with 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,200 unidentified anomalous phenomena formerly referred to as UFOs and 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,080 has operated for decades without congressional oversight, raising 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,640 concerns about government transparency. 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,200 Well, if you know anything about the UFO game, you know that 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,800 transparency has got nothing to do with anything the 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,560 government's doing. According to the whistle blower, 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,160 elements within the military and intelligence community, what 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,640 they like to call the IC, have withheld information about UA PS 52 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:10,280 violating constitutional obligations. 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,160 Schellenberger notes there is a growing body of evidence that 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,880 the government is not being transparent about what it knows 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,880 about UA. PS I'll tell you you'd have to 56 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,680 be living under a rock for the last 70 years not to know that. 57 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,520 The whistleblowers report outlines 7 categories of 58 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,800 evidence detailing various UAP sightings captured by U.S. 59 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,040 military sensors and personnel. It claims that the variable 60 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:43,480 chain of custody for UAPIMINT or imagery intelligence collected 61 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,880 by U.S. military assets ensures a high level of confidence and 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,960 accuracy and integrity of the data gathered. 63 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,000 The report also maintains alien reproduction vehicles being 64 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,240 secured within this program. The whistleblower further warned 65 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,680 that publishing the name Immaculate Constellation could 66 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,760 lead to government surveillance under the Foreign Intelligence 67 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,160 Surveillance Act. These revelations aligned with 68 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,040 former President Donald Trump's ongoing claims that the 69 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,519 government is withholding information about UA PS and a 70 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:21,600 June 2024 interview, Trump said. I have access and I speak to 71 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,720 people about it. I've had actual meetings on it, 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,800 and they will tell you there's something going on. 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,240 He has frequently expressed frustration over the 74 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,600 government's secrecy, stating that his administration sought 75 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,920 to release more information to the public. 76 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,760 Pretty sure here that we have a parallel government, a deep 77 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,920 state operating separately and independently from the people 78 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,000 that we vote for. Pretty clear, isn't it? 79 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,280 Lawmakers like Senators Marco Rubio and Kristen Gilderbrand 80 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,400 have pushed for a greater transparency on UA PS and have 81 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,760 voiced concerns about the lack of accountability. 82 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,240 Most of the UAP whistleblowers have held very high clearances 83 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,960 and high positions within our government, Rubio said last 84 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,080 year. While the full extent of 85 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,760 Immaculate Constellation remains unclear, the disclosure has 86 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,920 reignited public interest in UAP investigations. 87 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,600 The Pentagon has yet to respond to the new allegations, though 88 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 it previously denied any reverse engineering of extraterrestrial 89 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,920 technology. Whistleblowers, however, 90 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,600 continue to claim that crucial information about UA PS is being 91 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,760 hidden from Congress. Well the main problem that I see 92 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,360 from this is that it's a government whistleblower from 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,080 the inside and they aren't named. 94 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,680 So we have no chain of custody for this information. 95 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,160 We have no idea really what's being said. 96 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,360 I don't know how reliable the authors sources are. 97 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,880 The original author that does a sub stack and we're not getting 98 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,120 really enough details. We'll take a look at a couple 99 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,240 more articles here and see if we can kind of flesh this out a 100 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,360 little bit. This next article that we're 101 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,480 looking at gets us a little closer to the heart of the 102 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,280 matter here is from newsnationnow.com. 103 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:07,000 newsnationnow.com, of course, a lot of you are familiar with 104 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,680 Ross Coltart's work over there. There is about an hour long 105 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,560 interview, a video on here. Highly recommend it. 106 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,280 I'll put the links over at Kofi. You can watch that if you like. 107 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Definitely thanks to all the people that support the program 108 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,440 over there at Spotify. Don't forget to like, follow and 109 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,720 subscribe wherever you're at. It doesn't cost a dime now. 110 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,080 This article is titled Report names Immaculate Constellation 111 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,560 UAP Program Journalist. Then it says the whistleblower 112 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,240 report names a UAP program. For the first time, a number of 113 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,120 people have come forward alleging secret UAP programs. 114 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,840 Pentagon has denied that it has such programs and says Uaps are 115 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:50,320 not alien. Ross Coltart, dated October 9th, 116 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,840 2024, says a leaked whistleblower report says the 117 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:58,680 Pentagon is operating a secret UFO retrieval program called 118 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,080 Immaculate Constellation. According to the independent 119 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,960 journalist Michael Shellenberger, the report 120 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,160 revealed for the first time the name of an alleged UAP program, 121 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,000 stating that the executive branch has been managing UAP 122 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,080 issues without congressional knowledge or oversight, possibly 123 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,280 for decades now. I just can't imagine that it's 124 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,400 the executive branch doing this. I mean, think about it, the 125 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,720 president's only there for 4 to 8 years, right? 126 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,840 And you have these people in the DoD, they're there for decades. 127 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,400 So that doesn't make sense to me. 128 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Department of Defense spokesman Susan Goughman, that's spelled 129 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Gough. This lady, she's been around for 130 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,600 a long time, denied records of the alleged program in a 131 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,200 statement to the News Nation Tuesday evening. 132 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,560 The Department of Defense has no record, present or historical, 133 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,560 of any type of SAP called Immaculate Constellation, she 134 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,960 wrote. And then it says Schoenberger 135 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,520 told News Nation's Ross Colthart he has been in touch with the 136 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,160 whistle blower whose exact role and other identifying details, 137 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,000 including gender, he has withheld because they fear what 138 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,200 could happen if they are publicly known. 139 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,400 I would be more afraid of not being publicly known myself. 140 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,920 I mean, the way these guys operate, I don't think that 141 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,600 they're faking it or that they're lying about their fear, 142 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,440 he said. This person discovered this 143 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,000 material accidentally. This was not something they had 144 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,960 expected to encounter. That fear is why Schoenberger 145 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,120 said the whistleblower did not share intelligence imagery 146 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,960 showing Uaps. That's interesting. 147 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,720 I mean, how would you accidentally stumble across this 148 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,440 stuff unless somebody just said maybe had misplaced it, I don't 149 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,320 know. The unnamed whistleblower said 150 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,799 the Department of Defense created Immaculate Constellation 151 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:46,200 in 2017 after a New York Times report revealed another program 152 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,560 known as Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 153 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Now, there's a lot of debate about whether or not ATIP even 154 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,320 exists. There's a pretty good argument 155 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,320 that this was just a nickname for the original program, AARP 156 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,200 or whatever it was. So this idea that right here, 157 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,760 this whistleblower is saying, Oh yeah, a tip was for sure, for 158 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,480 certain. That kind of gives me some 159 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,000 pause, actually. The whistleblower report cites 160 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,480 evidence, including allegations about UAP sightings collected by 161 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,880 the Pentagon and intelligence documenting first hand 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,920 encounters with Uaps or UFOs that are kept in a database used 163 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,920 by the intelligence community. The report is also said to 164 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,200 describe various Uaps in detail, including one where orbs 165 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,800 surrounded an F22 and forced it out of its patrol area, and one 166 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,720 where the crew of a Navy aircraft saw an orange red 167 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,280 sphere descend from high altitude after they described a 168 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,800 sense of unease and feeling as if they'd snapped out of a 169 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,800 trance. That's interesting. 170 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,280 Pentagon historically denies reports of UAP programs. 171 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,040 The Pentagon has long denied claims that there is any 172 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,160 evidence to indicate any non human, alien or extraterrestrial 173 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,360 intelligence has visited Earth and it may report the Old Domain 174 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO said reports of 175 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,520 unidentified aerial phenomena UAP are the result of mistaken 176 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,640 identification of drones, top secret projects or other known 177 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,520 aerial objects. AARO said long standing claims 178 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,440 that the Pentagon is secretly studying Uaps are a result of a 179 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,040 circular reporting from a group of people who believe the rumor 180 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,600 to be true despite a lack of evidence. 181 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,240 And it goes on here. It says rumors about the 182 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,920 government and unidentified objects have existed since the 183 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,720 end of World War 2 and the famed Roswell incident in 1947. 184 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,400 Believers pointed to errors in the report and cast out on the 185 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,120 validity of the claims. Yeah, well, we're quite well 186 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,160 aware of that. I don't know about this, 187 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,200 actually. It goes on down here. 188 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,000 It says this new whistleblower is not part of that circular 189 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 reporting, Shellenberger said. I'm confident of that. 190 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,600 This person did not know the other individuals who verified 191 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,840 the name of this program. It does not fit the theory of 192 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,680 social contagion. Yeah, but could it fit the 193 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:19,120 theory of a limited hangout? Those who have suggested we need 194 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 to look more closely at Uaps, including high-ranking officials 195 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,560 like former Assistant Secretary of Defense Christopher Mellon 196 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,440 and former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe. 197 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Now John Ratcliffe, I tell you, I like this guy. 198 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,240 I think that if all the COVID stuff hadn't hit, if Trump could 199 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,440 have stayed focused, could have done what he needed to do, if we 200 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,680 would have had Trump 2.04 years ago and John Ratcliffe would 201 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:50,280 have been left in there, an intelligence agency, I think we 202 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,600 could have gotten disclosure. Because he just strikes me as a 203 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,960 really decent, honest guy. And I don't say that about many 204 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,920 of these fellows, but I've watched him on enough interviews 205 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,320 that I'm impressed with someone like John Ratcliffe. 206 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,560 We need a bunch of John Ratcliffe's in there if we're 207 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:06,640 ever going to get any hope of finding out what this stuff is. 208 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,960 It's just my personal opinion. In 2023, former Air Force 209 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,000 officer David Grush reignited interest in Uaps by claiming a 210 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,240 secret UAP retrieval program was being operated by the Pentagon 211 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,080 with the public or Congress being aware. 212 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,560 If you haven't listened to that podcast they did about the 213 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:25,320 interview with David Grush by that fellow out there in 214 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,840 Colorado, man check it out. I think that David Grush, my 215 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:35,840 personal vibe off of him is that he is a decent honest person 216 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,960 who's doing what he thinks is right. 217 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:42,080 But I'm not sure if he's being fed all accurate information. 218 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,680 But he seems like a genuine dude because of all the all the 219 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:50,400 nonsense he's been exposed to. From what I can see and the way 220 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,880 this interviewer described him just kind of being a little bit 221 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,240 on edge and I can see why he would be. 222 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,280 So we could have a limited hangout. 223 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,360 We could have people that are really decent, honest people 224 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,040 being fed incorrect information in order to create that hangout. 225 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:12,320 We could have people that are intentionally misleading, people 226 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,760 I don't find to be trustworthy at all. 227 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,480 And then we could have some of these anonymous sources that 228 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,760 maybe they're good people, but they've been fed information and 229 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,480 maybe it's not good information. So we have to be so careful with 230 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,880 this stuff that's coming out of the government because we don't 231 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,680 know. We weren't there. 232 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:29,920 We don't have a chain of custody, but it's still 233 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,080 interesting. They're on the move, that's for 234 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,400 sure. It says others have since come 235 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,760 forward with their own stories, including former military 236 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,040 intelligence officer Louis Elizondo and retired Army 237 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Colonel Carl Nell. I've talked about Elizondo a 238 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,880 bunch. Of course, you probably know 239 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,680 he's blocked me on Twitter. Why would he even take the time 240 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:51,160 to block somebody as insignificant as myself? 241 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,520 I just, I don't get it. It's kind of a joke to me. 242 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,880 Lawmakers from both parties have come forward to press the 243 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,560 Defense Department for more transparency and have said the 244 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:05,360 earlier hearing was not the last the public can expect to see on 245 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Uaps. Yeah, no justification has been 246 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,240 given for this level of secrecy. Schellenberger said nothing that 247 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,840 efforts to discredit those who have come forward to speak about 248 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Uaps have ruined people's lives. He also recommended 249 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,360 whistleblowers approach journalists or congressional 250 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,240 staffers, saying that protections for whistleblowers 251 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,440 who go to AARO or the inspector generals for defense of 252 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,840 intelligence are not adequate. Yeah, that's what I think I 253 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,680 would do if I was in that situation. 254 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,240 I felt like I needed to talk to somebody. 255 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:40,120 I think I'd find my Rep or my senator, talk to them because at 256 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760 least they can be cleared to have the conversation. 257 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,600 And maybe it'll be a lot less likely that you end up in a 258 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,400 slammer somewhere. Wow, interesting stuff. 259 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,560 I've got another article here I want to look at before we go to 260 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,080 close this out. This is from Substack. 261 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,160 This is the actual original article I guess. 262 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,680 Michael Shellenberger says October 8th, 2024. 263 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Pentagon is illegally hiding secret UFO information from 264 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,360 Congress, whistleblowers allege. I won't read the whole article 265 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,560 here because I'm not sure if this is supposed to be behind a 266 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,720 table or not. Somebody has gone ahead and put 267 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,880 it online, so I'm not going to go ahead and read that. 268 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,240 I don't want to get jammed up with somebody saying that I, you 269 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,640 know, access your information without permission. 270 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,120 I'll just say that they got a picture of Lloyd Austin here 271 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,440 testifying. It just kind of goes through and 272 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,760 talks about the different special access programs. 273 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Not a big fan of that stuff, man. 274 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,760 You end up with like 8 congressman that can actually 275 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,920 look at the stuff he talks about the 1947 Security Act, how 276 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,360 they're supposed to treat this information, you know, all this 277 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,400 top secret stuff. Basically what they did was they 278 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,960 just did an end run around the Constitution and said, well, we 279 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,880 won't have all of the reps have access to this stuff. 280 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,840 We'll just let 8 of them. Well, how hard would it be to 281 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,720 compromise? Eight people, really. 282 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,800 And so now we have a situation where we have billions and 283 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,840 billions of dollars. Don't forget the Defense 284 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:16,000 Department has 2.3 trillion missing and no accountability. 285 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Eight people can look at half these programs. 286 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,480 That doesn't seem right to me. It's just a recipe for disaster. 287 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,920 And if you got 8 congressmen looking at this stuff, 288 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,000 congressmen say he'd been in office for 10:20, 30-40 years. 289 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,880 Who's going to have the power over this? 290 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Oh yeah, the president might have the authority, but he's not 291 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,480 going to know where all this stuff is buried at. 292 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,200 And they keep him so busy. Doesn't it just seem silly to 293 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,200 you that we have presidents going around talking at 294 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,320 elementary schools, signing hats, doing, doing dinners for 295 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,080 the Super Bowl winner? I mean, doing dinners for the 296 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,040 college football, the college, you know, championship football 297 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,880 team, just spending hours and hours and hours and all this 298 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,160 silly public shows that don't amount to anything when he's 299 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,640 supposed to be managing the country. 300 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:09,280 The country that has what, a $25 trillion GDP, 300 million people 301 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,640 that are here legally, probably another 100 million that are 302 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,359 here illegally. We're coming up on 1/2 a million 303 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,800 people in this country and all these resources, the constant 304 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,720 threat of war and we've got a president doing Easter egg 305 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,800 hunts. I don't get it. 306 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,040 It's so who's, if he's doing all, if he's just doing all 307 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,720 these silly events where he shows up and not to mention the 308 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,840 World Travel going around to all these different, you know, World 309 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,520 Economic, this world that with the photo OPS, with all the big 310 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,920 shots, how does he have time for it? 311 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,960 If he's running things? Well, he's not running things. 312 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,440 The people that have been there for 30-40 years, they're running 313 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,640 things. And most of those people are in 314 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,520 the bowels of the Defense Department or the intelligence 315 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,880 community and they've got the rubber stamp of approval by 316 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,160 these 8 congressmen over these things they call SAPS or SPACS 317 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,880 or whatever. Spatial access programs. 318 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,880 I tell you, a dangerous situation. 319 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,920 He goes and makes kind of the connection between a row and 320 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,160 ATIP. Like I said before, there's a 321 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,320 lot of reason to believe that ATIP wasn't even a real program, 322 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,680 that that was just kind of a nickname for the previous 323 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,360 program that Harry Reid invented. 324 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,240 A lot of people think that this whole idea of ATIP actually goes 325 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,320 back to the original program, the AAWSAP, which started with 326 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,480 the help of Harry Reid. I have an article on that. 327 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,040 We'll get to that next. So what I'm seeing here is kind 328 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,120 of a collection of the same old stuff. 329 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,720 Now, this person may have stumbled across something that 330 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,680 they think is genuine. I'm just not sure. 331 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,680 I mean, I'm reading through the sub stack a little bit and this 332 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,440 guy seems to be putting out there that that Trump has some 333 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,760 kind of control over this. Trump has access to this and 334 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,480 that, you know, I'm not sure about all that. 335 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,440 I really think that Trump was just was just kept like so many 336 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,520 presidents on the outside of all this for so long. 337 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Could there be an actual program called Immaculate Constellation? 338 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:12,200 There could be. Will we ever get to the bottom 339 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,000 of it? Probably not. 340 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,120 Just to give you an idea of how these names just seem to be so 341 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:21,600 interchangeable and they could just be a distraction. 342 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,760 I want to just kind of go off the track a little bit here to 343 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,640 this article by metabunk.org. And obviously, these guys are 344 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,160 not going to be on our side of most things, but they do 345 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,680 sometimes. I think they're good for keeping 346 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,520 politicians, for keeping players in the deep state accountable to 347 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,600 at least to some tiny degree. This is dated June 21st, 2022. 348 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,440 It says Norcal Dave, senior member. 349 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,160 Where did the AAWSAP files come from and where did AAWSAP 350 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,400 originate? For the answer, I broke down and 351 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,600 paid the $9.98 for the Kindle version of Skinwalkers at the 352 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,560 Pentagon by Doctor James Lakatsuki, Column Kellner and 353 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,800 George Knapp. I would have subtitled it How 354 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Some dead Animals. Brought us the Tic Tac and 355 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,400 squandered $22 million of taxpayer money. 356 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,880 Now see this is a problem. When this stuff is done secretly 357 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,120 like this undercover where there's no accountability, they 358 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,520 open themselves up for a lot of criticism warranted or 359 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,600 unwarranted. It's a long post and I'm going 360 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,800 to need AG and T after this and it might get moved to rambles as 361 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,520 it's not a specific claim. Now it goes on here it says what 362 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,200 1 gets is that long time UFO paranormal journalist and Coast 363 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,080 to Coast AM regular George Knapp is the godfather of AAWSAP in a 364 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,600 nutshell. He hyped up some dubious 365 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,920 accounts of strange happenings and cattle mutilations on the 366 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Sherman Ranch in Utah to the point that UFO paranormal 367 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,880 enthusiast millionaire think he might be a billionaire. 368 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:01,400 Robert Bigelow bought in Bigelow using his own money to set up 369 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,320 the National Institute for Discovery Science NIDS, headed 370 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,600 by Colum Kellner, to investigate what would come to be called 371 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,120 Skinwalker Ranch. For eight years afterwards, 372 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Kellner and Knapp wrote a book about it. 373 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,600 The DIA employee, James Lakatsky read the book, traveled to the 374 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,800 ranch where he met Bigelow, and had a minor vision, quote UN 375 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,960 quote. With the help of Nevada Senator 376 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,400 Reid, whom he had been introduced to Bigelow by Knapp 377 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,360 many years before, Lakatsky crafted a government contract to 378 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:40,120 look at UFOs, Strange stuff, and Skinwalker Ranch, all under the 379 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:43,800 guise of future aerospace technologies and threats. 380 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,360 You see how convenient that is? You get a bunch of your friends 381 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,320 together, you get a famous journalist, you make a lot of 382 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,840 claims, you tell some really cool stories, and then the next 383 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,160 thing you know, you got $22 million rolling around. 384 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,520 There's a whole thing that this is not how UFO research should 385 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,400 be done. This is not the way to do it. 386 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,320 The contract was written so that only Lekowski could be in charge 387 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,560 of it. Bigelow's BAASS Company was the 388 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,640 sole bidder and was awarded the contract so that Lakatsky was in 389 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,640 charge of funneling $22 million to Bigelow's company, which was 390 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,760 run by Kellner. At least some of this money was 391 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,800 used to send Kellner back to Skinwalker Ranch, now with 392 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,200 taxpayer dollars. Wow, wouldn't it be cool if you 393 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,840 or I could get a $22 million grant to study UFOs? 394 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,240 Imagine what we could do. I'd have a new mic right away. 395 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Many from Knapp's circle of UFO paranormal researchers such as 396 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,720 Hal put off. We know that name and Kick Green 397 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,880 also know that name. Former intelligence guys got a 398 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760 little taste as they helped provide what would become the 399 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,760 DIRD files. Bass also rents MUFONZ database 400 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,360 and may have used some of their field investigators. 401 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,320 See, that's why I like New Fork. Now, I did make my first UFO 402 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,040 report and only to MUFON. That's because I knew about 403 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,360 them. I didn't know about New Fork. 404 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,160 They did have an investigator I talked to. 405 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,480 It was a very nice experience. But man, I'm following the money 406 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,880 here. Lakasky was the originator and 407 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:21,160 the only person ever in control of a a WSAP. 408 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,480 There was no formal ATIP. Got that. 409 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,200 There was no formal ATIP, AAT IP. 410 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,240 So that really brings into question what's Louis going 411 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,480 around telling us that he was in charge of ATIP about where was 412 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,160 this guy at? That acronym was created solely 413 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,800 as a ruse to be used in a letter that got circulated at the DoD 414 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,800 so as to hide AAWSAP. So they didn't want these guys 415 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,480 to know what was going on at the ranch out there, $2,000,000 416 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,520 flowing out toward the ranch might not look good. 417 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,040 So we've got to make up another name. 418 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,320 AATIP, That's what it looks like. 419 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Whether or not people like Chris Mellon or Louis Elizondo use the 420 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,920 term a tip to describe their unfunded and unofficial UFO 421 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,880 research is unclear. It appears that New York Times 422 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:19,320 article of 2017 got a hold of the a tip name and applied it to 423 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:25,160 what was really AAWSAP. Once in the public sphere, it 424 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,520 might have been used accordingly. 425 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,640 After funding dried up, Lekowski eventually retried and as 426 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,440 before, he now joined Calendar and Knapp in writing a book 427 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,320 about it. Of the $22 million, only 428 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,920 $350,000 is accounted for as it went to MUFON and appears on 429 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,000 their tax filings. This was for use in their UFO 430 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,880 database and possibly some training of old field 431 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,440 investigators or the use of MUFON investigators. 432 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,440 It's a little unclear in the end. 433 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:04,600 AWSAP produce the 1500 pages that this thread is about, along 434 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560 with mountains of reports about different encounters. 435 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,040 It's unclear though how many other reports were actually 436 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,360 generated by Bass employees and subcontractors for a swap, or 437 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:19,680 were just culled and rehearsed, rehashed from MUFON and other 438 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,480 databases, for crying out loud. So you're saying maybe, maybe 439 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,920 these guys just made-up stories or retold stories from the MUFON 440 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,240 databases? This is what I don't like about 441 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,120 MUFON not being like public and out there with their stuff like 442 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,400 new fork is totally different organizations. 443 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280 As this is a metabunk. I will provide a timeline below 444 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,720 using quotes from the book of those that want to see what was 445 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,640 actually in it and important notes. 446 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560 It says cattle and other animals mutilated by unknown entities, 447 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,960 intelligently guided orbs, silent black triangle craft, 448 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,320 poltergeist, 7 foot tall creatures, government agents in 449 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,160 black suits, and all the other high stranges that reportedly 450 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,920 occurred at Skiwalker Ranch and elsewhere. 451 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,760 It's prima facie that these things happen as described as a 452 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800 giving fact. There is no notion of mundane or 453 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560 traditional explanation for any of these encounters, rather an 454 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760 attempt to understand the underlying phenomena. 455 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,640 Cattle don't just die and get picked up, picked over with 456 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,640 scavengers. They are dissected by other 457 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,040 worldly entities, blah, blah, blah. 458 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,360 You can see what happened, man. You start off with a very shady 459 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,560 way of funding these things and it's very opaque. 460 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,160 And so when someone does a little bit of investigating work 461 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,800 and they're like, well, wait a minute. 462 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,720 Why was Bob Bigelow the only one that was allowed to bid on this? 463 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,120 And why was all this research focused on his ranch in Utah 464 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:38,800 that he bought for 200,000 and reportedly sold 10 years later 465 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,040 for what I think 1/2 a million? Why, why, why was this thing 466 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,960 started out being named a, a WSAP and now it's supposedly 467 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,120 referred to you as a ATIP? What, what, what are we doing 468 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:54,200 here with all these different names of this place? 469 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,800 Why, why are we being so quiet about it? 470 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,600 What's, what's all this confusion for? 471 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,160 Well some people might look at this and say well $22 million 472 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,960 and only 350,000 of us accounted for that went to MUFON, $350,000 473 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,080 is a pretty good chunk of money to sit around until and and 474 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,320 recant UFO stories, especially if you can just read them off a 475 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920 MUFON, which I don't think they share theirs with people. 476 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,800 If you can read them off a MUFON and just kind of credit those 477 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,440 two as to have happened over at the ranch, it's going to walk a 478 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,840 ranch, $350,000 is a lot more than what I get paid for 479 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,200 relaying UFO stories. The whole, the whole thing just 480 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,000 stinks to high heaven. And so now when this other 481 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,760 program comes along, we've been through so many of these. 482 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,160 Now this other program comes along. 483 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,880 They're calling it Immaculate Constellation. 484 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,400 And it's given to us by a whistleblower who seems to like 485 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,000 not be in the loop. Maybe they say they just 486 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,680 stumbled across this stuff. A lot of people thinking about 487 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,200 the bad things that could happen to you for sharing that might 488 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,600 just forget they ever saw it. But this person contacted this 489 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,320 writer, the Shellenberger Fellow, and he seems to take 490 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,000 about the word. But the problem is we don't have 491 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,200 any light on the subject. We have no chain of custody for 492 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,600 this information. Was this idea that there's this 493 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,400 government program called Immaculate Constellation that is 494 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,600 dealing with these UFOs and entities or whatnot, is that a 495 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,920 real thing or is that just something that was planted there 496 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,840 for this person to find? If it is a real thing, would 497 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,400 they be that careless with the information or would this 498 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,200 perhaps be some kind of a limited hangout? 499 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960 I see some real problems with this story about the Immaculate 500 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,400 Constellation, the notion that it's controlled by the executive 501 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800 branch. I think that's laughable when we 502 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,920 think of the presidents that have tried to get to the bottom 503 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,640 of this, have just been pushed off to the side. 504 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,520 When you have a deep state that's been in full force since 505 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,760 the 19 teens now over 100 years, we have such an inoculation to 506 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,600 the truth in these departments, I don't think there's any chance 507 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,760 that we'll ever get disclosure from them unless somebody can 508 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,160 just bust the doors wide open, go in and find this stuff. 509 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,760 Until next time. This is UFO warning over and 510 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:01,920 out.