Hello and welcome to the program.
You have a warning, today's topic, a tip timeline.
This comes from The Black Vault.com, so much good work
comes out of there. And in this, the author John
Green Will Junior. Post an article titled
navigating the Twisted Maze of the, a tip timeline, aat IP, and
that, of course, is the aerial threat program that Louis
Elizondo and Company were in charge, of course, Louis
Elizondo. Now, working with Tom DeLonge,
and the academy to the Stars project, So his name is in the
news a lot and I think it Bears a little repeating to talk about
this somewhat and green wall put up.
Some more documents that have been released about this.
And if you have an interest in a tip and a tip has really come
out to the Forefront. Of course, other ones that
release the Tic Tac video regarding the three videos there
that were taken by the Navy fighter pilots off of the Nimitz
group. We've talked about those at
length on the blog. And when somebody comes up with,
This type of really paradigm-shifting evidence of
UFOs. I think it's okay to take a long
hard look at the person that presented this evidence and to
question the chain of command. And to also demand a little bit
of accountability out of the people who are presenting this
evidence, because it affects anybody who's part of the UFO.
Investigative Community were asked to accept these people.
As experts in the field. So I think it's okay to take a
look at their credentials. Now, green will starts off.
He says, on December 16th 2017 news.
Broke about a Secret Pentagon, UFO study, that rock not only
the UFO Community but appeared on nearly every news Outlet in
some fashion around the globe. The New York Times and political
our career are credited for the initial reporting, but that
spawned hundreds of Articles and news broadcast by various news
agencies very quickly. As the weeks months and now more
than a year has unfolded, there has been a lot of controversy
and contradicting information that has come to light.
There are multiple sides to the debate about if the program we
know as the advanced Aerospace threat and identification
program or 880 IP, that's Advanced Aerospace threat
identification program. A tip referred to, by some media
media Outlets as they Advanced Aviation threat, identification
program was even a UFO research program at all.
This is an extremely important issue to unravel since after
December of 2017. The media has been somewhat more
interested in the ufo-related destroys based on the
Revelation, on this Revelation, many researches have worked very
hard over the years, to prove an active cover up regarding
phenomena. And as a result, once the
mainstream media to take it, seriously, So, if the existence
of a tip is a UFO slice, you AP research program is
extraordinary on many levels and does nothing but help the
Integrity of the UFO field of research.
But what if it's not what we are led to believe, what will the
repercussions be in the grander picture?
If the a tip story turns out to be a misunderstood Over
embellished or simply downright fabrication about what a tips
objectives. Really War facts about.
Such an important topic are automatically pun intended, or
astronomically pun intended important aspect to this.
However, facts seem hard to find taking the government out of the
equation. The facts given to us.
Still offer a very confusing and convoluted story to understand.
Even when only looking at the statements from former eight hit
personnel, It is hard to make sense of it all.
If the source of information outside, the government are
contradictory to one another. How are we supposed to assume
the government is simply lying. When they say something we don't
we do not want to be true. Well, he's got a point and all
are in all of this past couple of years with all this
information coming out about a tip and I, you know, I've done
podcast on this, where we talk about a tip, the government
throwing a tip under the bus, the government throwing Louis
Was onto one of the bus, it seems like the stories that come
out. Don't quite Jive.
Now, we have to admit Elizondo. Did he did come out with a
videos from the Nimitz battle group, but I've talked about
this in previous podcast. Why did he get those videos and
now? And since then it's come, it's
become pretty clear that those videos were actually dumbed-down
dumb down versions of the original.
That's what it seems to be. Basically we got We got cartoon
versions what the pilot saw. And and then we have the whole
question about is, you know, are these videos being monetized?
Because we see to the academy of stars, Watermark splashed all
over them. So we're talking about the UFO
phenomena and when somebody monetizes that phenomena, we
have a right to question their narrative, their story.
Now there are echoes. Honest is this below timeline is
the culmination of about two years worth of work.
Since a tip was unveiled, every point you read below is
generated directly, from the words, lecture news broadcast
and written material of key players involved with this whole
Sega since day one, navigating, this a Timeline forces, you to
immerse yourself in a Twisted Maze of conflicting dates
contradicting, sources questionable intentions.
And a slew of unanswered questions they'll ask you is a
listener. Does that sound like
transparency to you? Does that sound like?
This is that sound like accountability.
You, I mean mr. Greenwald here, he's here.
He's a top-notch investigator. I mean, this guy is the real
deal. And if he's telling you, hey,
there's some inconsistencies here.
Well, I've got to believe him and you can go to the
blackboard.com, look at some yourself.
I mean, The Black Vault.com is a treasure Trove of government
documents, as far as I'm concerned.
It's as good as it gets as far as UFO information is concerned.
I mean it's Top Notch and this guy's saying, hey I have some
questions it goes on. He says the intention here is
not to attack anyone's journalistic skills.
Honesty Integrity or patriotism but rather this timeline is
created to show how many contradictions there really are
in the bigger picture in a role of anonymous sources and linked
documents. It seems like there is a
journalistic standard that is largely gone out the window when
talking about or reporting on a tip.
Related Stories. The below timeline will continue
to morph as new sources of information present themselves.
And it says, note from John Greenwald.
Although, I have never claimed to be a journalist.
I have tried to follow that journalistic standard to receive
clarification and comment from those.
I write about, I find it unfair to do so.
Without trying, since December of 2017, I have reached out to
all key parties referenced below and many others not mentioned at
one time. Or another seeking clarification
to some of the disparate discrepancies outlined.
It is public knowledge that to the stars of Academy of Arts and
Science. T, TSA has denied my numerous
requests to speak with mr. Elizondo after months of trying.
Wow. Wait one minute this is John
Green wall. We're talking about for crying
out loud. This is a Premier Premier
investigator. You can't talk to this guy.
I mean If you go to Black Vault.com and you look at the
work, this man has done, it is like I said, it's top shelf all
the way. If you can't answer a few
questions from this guy, I really have to question the
story that you're telling me. And it says here, he's reached
out to Elizondo, they won't talk to him that Tom DeLonge is
trying to raise money for his, for his, in his UFO company. we
have a group of people that are monetizing UFO data and made a
material video whatever and they can't ask some simple
straightforward questions from probably one of the top-level
UFO investigators and the country.
I just I just don't get that part.
He goes on, he says, Two stars of Academy of Science has denied
my numerous requests to speak with mr.
Lewis Elizondo after months of trying, but the remainder of
names have had various responses to me, which I will refrain from
offering details despite these varying responses or lack
thereof. I have never once had any of the
below addressed, I've never once had any of the below address.
I invite anyone capital letters that has direct knowledge of
anything below to offer clarification.
I will gladly quote said party accordingly.
And do so with my special, thanks to below.
Should be a collaborative effort and then he goes on here and he
does a brief timeline. And I just want to go through a
few of these. It says the timeline last
updated, ten, twenty three to twenty 19, 2007 Advanced
Aerospace threat identification program.
A tip Begins the exact date unknown Elissa sources for this.
This is the shattered program parts of it.
Remain classified began in 2007 and initially. it was largely
funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat, who
was the Senate Majority Leader at the time and who has had a
long interest in space phenomena It says, the problem is this
contradicts a time, like that mr.
Elizondo set up with aw sap contract.
Program was renamed a tip and 2008.
Not 2007 mr. Elizondo, at least one of the
sources used by the New York Times for the facts but it
contradicts his later statement that a tip started in 2008 and
was quoted in saying evolved from a, aw sap.
But it is not a aw sap. That's interesting.
So elizondo's says it starts in 08.
But The Black Vault finds out that it actually started in
2008. It says, in addition, the New
York Times had contracts obtained.
By the time, show Congressional appropriation of just under 22
million dollars. Beginning in late, 2008 through
2011, the money was used for management of the program,
research and assessments of the threat posed by the objects.
The problem is this contradicts our own reporting?
Wow! You mean the New York Times
printed some fake news. I am amazed this problem,
contradicts her. I'm reporting the original
contracts. Awarded in late 2008, for what
we later. Learn is a, aw sap.
We're not a tip contracts. If they were then this reporting
contradicts, the testimony of mr.
Lewis Elizondo. So, therefore, it must be asked
why the New York Times would not stay accurate, and offer a brief
chronological overview of how a tip came to be, according to mr.
Elizondo, who headed the project?
A tip was a different program entirely from a aw sap.
So if mr. Elizondo was, at least one of
their sources, why would Not be addressed or detailed.
Mr. Elizalde himself says a8w sap.
And a tip were not the same. They says see.
Also the contradiction between dr.
Hal put off a former contractor that worked within the AAW Sapa
tip, and who is now board member of TTS?
A working directly with mr. Elizondo.
So, apparently, the people working for TTS a delong's
company, these guys can't even agree on the facts.
That's what it looks like. I don't know.
He Was my opinion. He was he has direct knowledge
of the program, have you worked on it but this statement goes
against mr. Elizondo who actually headed the
program and it goes on and says 2007 Advanced Aerospace weapon
system, applications per gram, WWA to a aw sap begins exact
date. Unknown source mr.
Lewis Elizondo. Slide part from his slide
presentation at move on conference in July 29th, 2018,
the excerpt from the text 2007 program, originally created as a
bipartisan effort. And then you list represent,
Republican Stevens, Democrat in a way and a great read to better
understand you a piece, not your edified arrow phenomenons and
counter by the US military determine if they represent a
national security threat and also 2007 Congressional a
language established the advanced Aerospace weapon
systems application program. That's a aw sap green wall says,
the problem is this contradicts mr.
Elizondo's other statements. It's seen in this timeline that
a aw sap was a much broader program and a tip was born out
of that to focus on you a piece both statements cannot be true.
This also contradicts a publicly available information on a.
Aw sap was originally intended to be there.
There is not a single reference to anything related, to you APS
or unidentified objects, see below for the three versions of
the AAW sap solicitations. This also contradicts the
original reporting. I buy the New York Times, which
used mr. Elizondo, as at least, one other
sources were in. They said a tip started in 2007.
We know this. We know by this slide in
multiple statements by mr. Elizondo, the, a tip was not
started until 2008. This reminds me of so much and I
hate to get political here but it reminds me so much of the
reporting that we've seen throughout this whole situation
with a President Trump where partisan people leak stuff to
Publications like the New York Times and that was reported as
fact and then the FBI use that and their investigation.
This strictly rumor meal, Rumor Mill and this is what I'm saying
here. You're seeing contradiction
contradictory information being released by people like Elizondo
inand others and delong's Company.
It's being leaked to the Press New York Times.
Again, imagine that they publish it and then all of a sudden.
It's fact, even though it contradicts other known facts.
What I see here with a tip and with to the academy stars and a
lot of the stuff for the trying to monetize the UFO, phenomenon
is a circular The rumor meal, Rumor Mill.
Where you have leaks from people that were inside the government,
but we don't know where they were at inside the government.
They claim to be in one place but it turns out they were
somewhere else or maybe they weren't there at all, this whole
thing stinks, it goes on and says he has some more timelines
listed for 2007 and then it goes on quite a way in, for just, for
lack of time. We'll go on.
Here's one. He has 2007.
Robert Bigelow gets contract in Owls and eight Source, Louis on
do, it says quote, they're going back to the fact that Bigelow
got the contract back in 07. 08. It was a Dia who made the
selection for Bigelow and then went through the official
contract process of the US government.
This is a generalized statement about the contract, giving the
Bigelow, there is no clarification on a, aw sap or a
tip nor reference to bass, but the problem is this, contradicts
a timeline that the timeline that AAW sap contract program
solicited bids as Publicly archived in August of 2008.
It also changes a definitive 2007 date.
So you see what's going on here? They're bringing up a name Bob
Bigelow. Well anybody that UFO Community
knows who Bob Bigelow is, I mean you have Niche, you got
Skinwalker Ranch, you have this fantastically Rich.
Billionaire who seems to have a An acute interest in the
Paranormal, along with the fact that he has multiple contracts
with the US government and the space Aerospace industry, and
it's almost like they're just tossing him into the mix to
lend, Credence to elizondo's Bona, fides that he was in
charge of a tip. And they're using that to sell.
This guy's this guy's biography, his narrative to the you to the
UFO Community through these, through these mufon, meetups and
such. That's what it looks like to me.
I'm not saying that's how it is, but that's what it appears like
on the surface. Because you have this guy coming
out of this mufon group who says I'm a former head of a UFO
investigative agency, and then he's tossing names out, like Bob
Bigelow Harry Reid whatnot but now Greenwell comes along with
this timeline and he says the dates aren't matching up and
this is an extensive timeline. There's no way I have time to go
through it all here but I'll just finish up here with a
couple more examples. It says in 2008 Bigelow
Aerospace Advanced space studies is created, according to the
Nevada Secretary of State, and then it goes on and says, the
problem is this contradicts news report by mr.
George Knapp class TV and the, the i-team documents prove
secret UFO study based in Nevada article.
The relevant quote for the DIA contract, he created bass a
separate entity house within this Aerospace plant.
He hired a team of 46 scientists investigators along with dozens
of other Personnel. It was also reported in Newsweek
by Andrew by Andrew Whelan. We're in the relevant, quote
States batch created specifically for the Pentagon
contract conducted research, both from Bigelow Aerospace
headquarters, and Las Vegas and an Infamous.
You tal Ranch. That may be the Skinwalker Ranch
formerly owned by Robert Bigelow ownership has since transferred
to adamantium real estate who manage the property on behalf of
anonymous owner. Since the bid for aw sap was not
posted until after all. Costa 2008 by the DIA, there's
no way for mr. Bigelow, Dino.
So either, this is an erroneous fact as published by multiple
media Outlets or mr. Bigelow, had foreknowledge of
the coming program that would open the bidding eight months
later and wanted to get the paperwork set for a Nevada LLC
to take it. so the more you get into this, this Nest the more
convoluted and the more convoluted and complex, it
becomes so The Academy of the Stars, ulua Zonda they have
weaved, Bob Bigelow Through the story in and out and now the
dates aren't matching up and that's what Greenwald saying,
your he's just saying. Hey, listen guys, I'm not
calling you a liar. I'm just saying that the
publicly available dates that you're saying certain things
happened aren't matching up with the dates that we have recorded
from government agencies and contracts.
This timeline is very extensive. It goes on a long, long ways.
And And I would love to sit here and go through it.
You know, I could probably do some more some more podcast on
this later, it would take two days to go through this
timeline, the work that Greenwald has done here.
So extensive and so detailed. And so sourced that you couldn't
possibly go through it in 20 minutes.
But what I'm seeing here from this timeline, he's presented
with a tip is a obvious conflict between the dates and you know
if you're looking for fraud somewhere or if you're looking,
if you're looking for facts or misrepresented and a timeline of
the story, the first thing you're going to look for is the
dates because you remember any time that we're trying to
identify Buy something and UFO investigation.
We're looking for the time it happened, the place it happened,
where it happened at, and then we're looking for evidence
Witnesses, physical evidence, whatever.
So as we investigate this phenomena basically, what we're
calling a tip. Now, the first thing to start
doing is looking for the dates and see if the dates match up
the same. Is what the employees of say,
for-profit companies, like to the academy of star say.
And from what we can see, there's some discrepancies here
in dates. So, you know, it kind of goes
along with whether smoke their fire if they're not, if if
they're not being correct on the dates that they're giving us,
are they being correct on everything else?
I think this is important. For the UFO Community.
Particularly, as we investigate this phenomena, let's keep it at
the grass. Roots on a personal level, be
your own disclosure, don't depend on a for-profit company.
Or a government agency to give you disclosure.
If you have to use a resources at your disposal to create your
own disclosure. Once again, this is on
blackbaud.com. There is a lot of material
there. I couldn't possibly go through
it all, but I thought this was so fascinating.
That Greenwald is putting is putting the story under the
microscope and some of the things he's coming up with are
in fact concerning this is UFO warning until next time over and
out. If you have to use a resources
at your disposal to create your own disclosure.
Once again, this is on blackbaud.com.
There is a lot of material there.
I couldn't possibly go through it all, but I thought this was
so fascinating. That Greenwald is putting is
putting the story under the microscope and some of the
things he's coming up with are in fact concerning this is UFO
warning until next time over and out.