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Hello and welcome to the 
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You have a warning, today's 
topic, a tip timeline. 

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This comes from The Black 
Vault.com, so much good work 

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comes out of there. 
And in this, the author John 

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Green Will Junior. 
Post an article titled 

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navigating the Twisted Maze of 
the, a tip timeline, aat IP, and

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that, of course, is the aerial 
threat program that Louis 

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Elizondo and Company were in 
charge, of course, Louis 

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Elizondo. 
Now, working with Tom DeLonge, 

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and the academy to the Stars 
project, So his name is in the 

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news a lot and I think it Bears 
a little repeating to talk about

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this somewhat and green wall put
up. 

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Some more documents that have 
been released about this. 

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And if you have an interest in a
tip and a tip has really come 

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out to the Forefront. 
Of course, other ones that 

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release the Tic Tac video 
regarding the three videos there

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that were taken by the Navy 
fighter pilots off of the Nimitz

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group. 
We've talked about those at 

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length on the blog. 
And when somebody comes up with,

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This type of really 
paradigm-shifting evidence of 

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UFOs. 
I think it's okay to take a long

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hard look at the person that 
presented this evidence and to 

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question the chain of command. 
And to also demand a little bit 

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of accountability out of the 
people who are presenting this 

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evidence, because it affects 
anybody who's part of the UFO. 

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Investigative Community were 
asked to accept these people. 

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As experts in the field. 
So I think it's okay to take a 

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look at their credentials. 
Now, green will starts off. 

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He says, on December 16th 2017 
news. 

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Broke about a Secret Pentagon, 
UFO study, that rock not only 

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the UFO Community but appeared 
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some fashion around the globe. 
The New York Times and political

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our career are credited for the 
initial reporting, but that 

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spawned hundreds of Articles and
news broadcast by various news 

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agencies very quickly. 
As the weeks months and now more

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than a year has unfolded, there 
has been a lot of controversy 

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and contradicting information 
that has come to light. 

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There are multiple sides to the 
debate about if the program we 

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know as the advanced Aerospace 
threat and identification 

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program or 880 IP, that's 
Advanced Aerospace threat 

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identification program. 
A tip referred to, by some media

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media Outlets as they Advanced 
Aviation threat, identification 

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program was even a UFO research 
program at all. 

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This is an extremely important 
issue to unravel since after 

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December of 2017. 
The media has been somewhat more

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interested in the ufo-related 
destroys based on the 

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Revelation, on this Revelation, 
many researches have worked very

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hard over the years, to prove an
active cover up regarding 

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phenomena. 
And as a result, once the 

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mainstream media to take it, 
seriously, So, if the existence 

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of a tip is a UFO slice, you AP 
research program is 

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extraordinary on many levels and
does nothing but help the 

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Integrity of the UFO field of 
research. 

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But what if it's not what we are
led to believe, what will the 

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repercussions be in the grander 
picture? 

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If the a tip story turns out to 
be a misunderstood Over 

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embellished or simply downright 
fabrication about what a tips 

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objectives. 
Really War facts about. 

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Such an important topic are 
automatically pun intended, or 

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astronomically pun intended 
important aspect to this. 

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However, facts seem hard to find
taking the government out of the

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equation. 
The facts given to us. 

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Still offer a very confusing and
convoluted story to understand. 

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Even when only looking at the 
statements from former eight hit

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personnel, It is hard to make 
sense of it all. 

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If the source of information 
outside, the government are 

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contradictory to one another. 
How are we supposed to assume 

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the government is simply lying. 
When they say something we don't

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we do not want to be true. 
Well, he's got a point and all 

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are in all of this past couple 
of years with all this 

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information coming out about a 
tip and I, you know, I've done 

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podcast on this, where we talk 
about a tip, the government 

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throwing a tip under the bus, 
the government throwing Louis 

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Was onto one of the bus, it 
seems like the stories that come

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out. 
Don't quite Jive. 

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Now, we have to admit Elizondo. 
Did he did come out with a 

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videos from the Nimitz battle 
group, but I've talked about 

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this in previous podcast. 
Why did he get those videos and 

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now? 
And since then it's come, it's 

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become pretty clear that those 
videos were actually dumbed-down

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dumb down versions of the 
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That's what it seems to be. 
Basically we got We got cartoon 

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versions what the pilot saw. 
And and then we have the whole 

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question about is, you know, are
these videos being monetized? 

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Because we see to the academy of
stars, Watermark splashed all 

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over them. 
So we're talking about the UFO 

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phenomena and when somebody 
monetizes that phenomena, we 

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have a right to question their 
narrative, their story. 

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Now there are echoes. 
Honest is this below timeline is

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the culmination of about two 
years worth of work. 

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Since a tip was unveiled, every 
point you read below is 

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generated directly, from the 
words, lecture news broadcast 

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and written material of key 
players involved with this whole

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Sega since day one, navigating, 
this a Timeline forces, you to 

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immerse yourself in a Twisted 
Maze of conflicting dates 

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contradicting, sources 
questionable intentions. 

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And a slew of unanswered 
questions they'll ask you is a 

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listener. 
Does that sound like 

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transparency to you? 
Does that sound like? 

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This is that sound like 
accountability. 

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You, I mean mr. 
Greenwald here, he's here. 

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He's a top-notch investigator. 
I mean, this guy is the real 

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deal. 
And if he's telling you, hey, 

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there's some inconsistencies 
here. 

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Well, I've got to believe him 
and you can go to the 

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blackboard.com, look at some 
yourself. 

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I mean, The Black Vault.com is a
treasure Trove of government 

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documents, as far as I'm 
concerned. 

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It's as good as it gets as far 
as UFO information is concerned.

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I mean it's Top Notch and this 
guy's saying, hey I have some 

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questions it goes on. 
He says the intention here is 

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not to attack anyone's 
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Honesty Integrity or patriotism 
but rather this timeline is 

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created to show how many 
contradictions there really are 

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in the bigger picture in a role 
of anonymous sources and linked 

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documents. 
It seems like there is a 

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journalistic standard that is 
largely gone out the window when

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talking about or reporting on a 
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Related Stories. 
The below timeline will continue

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to morph as new sources of 
information present themselves. 

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And it says, note from John 
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Although, I have never claimed 
to be a journalist. 

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I have tried to follow that 
journalistic standard to receive

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clarification and comment from 
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I write about, I find it unfair 
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Without trying, since December 
of 2017, I have reached out to 

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all key parties referenced below
and many others not mentioned at

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one time. 
Or another seeking clarification

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to some of the disparate 
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It is public knowledge that to 
the stars of Academy of Arts and

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Science. 
T, TSA has denied my numerous 

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requests to speak with mr. 
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Wow. 
Wait one minute this is John 

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Green wall. 
We're talking about for crying 

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out loud. 
This is a Premier Premier 

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investigator. 
You can't talk to this guy. 

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I mean If you go to Black 
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work, this man has done, it is 
like I said, it's top shelf all 

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the way. 
If you can't answer a few 

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questions from this guy, I 
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story that you're telling me. 
And it says here, he's reached 

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out to Elizondo, they won't talk
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trying to raise money for his, 
for his, in his UFO company. we 

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have a group of people that are 
monetizing UFO data and made a 

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material video whatever and they
can't ask some simple 

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straightforward questions from 
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UFO investigators and the 
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I just I just don't get that 
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He goes on, he says, Two stars 
of Academy of Science has denied

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my numerous requests to speak 
with mr. 

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Lewis Elizondo after months of 
trying, but the remainder of 

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names have had various responses
to me, which I will refrain from

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offering details despite these 
varying responses or lack 

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thereof. 
I have never once had any of the

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below addressed, I've never once
had any of the below address. 

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I invite anyone capital letters 
that has direct knowledge of 

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anything below to offer 
clarification. 

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I will gladly quote said party 
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And do so with my special, 
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Should be a collaborative effort
and then he goes on here and he 

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does a brief timeline. 
And I just want to go through a 

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few of these. 
It says the timeline last 

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updated, ten, twenty three to 
twenty 19, 2007 Advanced 

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Aerospace threat identification 
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A tip Begins the exact date 
unknown Elissa sources for this.

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This is the shattered program 
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Remain classified began in 2007 
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funded at the request of Harry 
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was the Senate Majority Leader 
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long interest in space phenomena
It says, the problem is this 

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contradicts a time, like that 
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Elizondo set up with aw sap 
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Program was renamed a tip and 
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Not 2007 mr. 
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sources used by the New York 
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contradicts his later statement 
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was quoted in saying evolved 
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But it is not a aw sap. 
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So elizondo's says it starts in 
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But The Black Vault finds out 
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2008. 
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York Times had contracts 
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By the time, show Congressional 
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million dollars. 
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research and assessments of the 
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The problem is this contradicts 
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Wow! 
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printed some fake news. 
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contradicts her. 
I'm reporting the original 

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contracts. 
Awarded in late 2008, for what 

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we later. 
Learn is a, aw sap. 

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We're not a tip contracts. 
If they were then this reporting

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contradicts, the testimony of 
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Lewis Elizondo. 
So, therefore, it must be asked 

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why the New York Times would not
stay accurate, and offer a brief

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chronological overview of how a 
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Elizondo, who headed the 
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A tip was a different program 
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So if mr. 
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their sources, why would Not be 
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Mr. Elizalde himself says a8w 
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And a tip were not the same. 
They says see. 

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Also the contradiction between 
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Hal put off a former contractor 
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tip, and who is now board member
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A working directly with mr. 
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So, apparently, the people 
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company, these guys can't even 
agree on the facts. 

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That's what it looks like. 
I don't know. 

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He Was my opinion. 
He was he has direct knowledge 

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of the program, have you worked 
on it but this statement goes 

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against mr. 
Elizondo who actually headed the

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program and it goes on and says 
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system, applications per gram, 
WWA to a aw sap begins exact 

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date. 
Unknown source mr. 

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Lewis Elizondo. 
Slide part from his slide 

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presentation at move on 
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the excerpt from the text 2007 
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bipartisan effort. 
And then you list represent, 

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Republican Stevens, Democrat in 
a way and a great read to better

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understand you a piece, not your
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counter by the US military 
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national security threat and 
also 2007 Congressional a 

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language established the 
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systems application program. 
That's a aw sap green wall says,

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the problem is this contradicts 
mr. 

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Elizondo's other statements. 
It's seen in this timeline that 

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a aw sap was a much broader 
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of that to focus on you a piece 
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This also contradicts a publicly
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Aw sap was originally intended 
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There is not a single reference 
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or unidentified objects, see 
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the AAW sap solicitations. 
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original reporting. 
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used mr. 
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sources were in. 
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multiple statements by mr. 
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started until 2008. 
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hate to get political here but 
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reporting that we've seen 
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with a President Trump where 
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Publications like the New York 
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fact and then the FBI use that 
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This strictly rumor meal, Rumor 
Mill and this is what I'm saying

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here. 
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contradictory information being 
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inand others and delong's 
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It's being leaked to the Press 
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Again, imagine that they publish
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It's fact, even though it 
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What I see here with a tip and 
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lot of the stuff for the trying 
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is a circular The rumor meal, 
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Where you have leaks from people
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but we don't know where they 
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They claim to be in one place 
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somewhere else or maybe they 
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thing stinks, it goes on and 
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listed for 2007 and then it goes
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lack of time. 
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Here's one. 
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Robert Bigelow gets contract in 
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do, it says quote, they're going
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got the contract back in 07. 08.
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selection for Bigelow and then 
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contract process of the US 
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This is a generalized statement 
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Bigelow, there is no 
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tip nor reference to bass, but 
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a timeline that the timeline 
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solicited bids as Publicly 
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It also changes a definitive 
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So you see what's going on here?
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Bigelow. 
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knows who Bob Bigelow is, I mean
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Skinwalker Ranch, you have this 
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Billionaire who seems to have a 
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Paranormal, along with the fact 
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with the US government and the 
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it's almost like they're just 
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lend, Credence to elizondo's 
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charge of a tip. 
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This guy's this guy's biography,
his narrative to the you to the 

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UFO Community through these, 
through these mufon, meetups and

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such. 
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I'm not saying that's how it is,
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on the surface. 
Because you have this guy coming

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out of this mufon group who says
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investigative agency, and then 
he's tossing names out, like Bob

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Bigelow Harry Reid whatnot but 
now Greenwell comes along with 

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this timeline and he says the 
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this is an extensive timeline. 
There's no way I have time to go

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through it all here but I'll 
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couple more examples. 
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Aerospace Advanced space studies
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Nevada Secretary of State, and 
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problem is this contradicts news
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George Knapp class TV and the, 
the i-team documents prove 

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secret UFO study based in Nevada
article. 

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The relevant quote for the DIA 
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separate entity house within 
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He hired a team of 46 scientists
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of other Personnel. 
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by Andrew by Andrew Whelan. 
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States batch created 
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contract conducted research, 
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headquarters, and Las Vegas and 
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You tal Ranch. 
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formerly owned by Robert Bigelow
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to adamantium real estate who 
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anonymous owner. 
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posted until after all. 
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no way for mr. 
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So either, this is an erroneous 
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media Outlets or mr. 
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the coming program that would 
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later and wanted to get the 
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to take it. so the more you get 
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convoluted and the more 
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becomes so The Academy of the 
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weaved, Bob Bigelow Through the 
story in and out and now the 

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dates aren't matching up and 
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your he's just saying. 
Hey, listen guys, I'm not 

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calling you a liar. 
I'm just saying that the 

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publicly available dates that 
you're saying certain things 

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happened aren't matching up with
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from government agencies and 
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This timeline is very extensive.
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And And I would love to sit here
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You know, I could probably do 
some more some more podcast on 

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this later, it would take two 
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timeline, the work that 
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So extensive and so detailed. 
And so sourced that you couldn't

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possibly go through it in 20 
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But what I'm seeing here from 
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with a tip is a obvious conflict
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if you're looking for fraud 
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if you're looking for facts or 
misrepresented and a timeline of

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the story, the first thing 
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dates because you remember any 
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identify Buy something and UFO 
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We're looking for the time it 
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where it happened at, and then 
we're looking for evidence 

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Witnesses, physical evidence, 
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So as we investigate this 
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calling a tip. 
Now, the first thing to start 

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doing is looking for the dates 
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the same. 
Is what the employees of say, 

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for-profit companies, like to 
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And from what we can see, 
there's some discrepancies here 

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in dates. 
So, you know, it kind of goes 

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along with whether smoke their 
fire if they're not, if if 

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they're not being correct on the
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are they being correct on 
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I think this is important. 
For the UFO Community. 

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Particularly, as we investigate 
this phenomena, let's keep it at

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the grass. 
Roots on a personal level, be 

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your own disclosure, don't 
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Or a government agency to give 
you disclosure. 

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If you have to use a resources 
at your disposal to create your 

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own disclosure. 
Once again, this is on 

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blackbaud.com. 
There is a lot of material 

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there. 
I couldn't possibly go through 

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it all, but I thought this was 
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That Greenwald is putting is 
putting the story under the 

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microscope and some of the 
things he's coming up with are 

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in fact concerning this is UFO 
warning until next time over and

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out. 
If you have to use a resources 

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at your disposal to create your 
own disclosure. 

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Once again, this is on 
blackbaud.com. 

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There is a lot of material 
there. 

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I couldn't possibly go through 
it all, but I thought this was 

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so fascinating. 
That Greenwald is putting is 

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putting the story under the 
microscope and some of the 

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things he's coming up with are 
in fact concerning this is UFO 

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warning until next time over and
out.