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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode, we're asking 
who is Christopher Mellon? 

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That's correct. 
Who is Christopher Mellon? 

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Now, if you follow the UFO 
subject to all, you've probably 

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seen Christopher Mellon on any 
number of news shows or on The 

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History Channel. 
He's oftentimes presented as an 

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authority figure from the 
government. 

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Seems like an interesting guy, 
so I thought why not take a look

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and see how he fits in with the 
whistleblowers and all the stuff

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that's been emerging lately. 
I started off my search really 

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with a query to ChatGPT. 
They don't always have the best 

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information, but sometimes they 
come up with some insights, so 

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let's take a look at what they 
have to say since. 

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Christopher Mellon is a former 
U.S. government official who has

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played a prominent role in 
advocating for increased 

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transparency and investigation 
into unidentified aerial 

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phenomena, commonly referred to 
as UFOs. 

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He served as the Deputy 
Assistant Secretary of Defense 

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for Intelligence under both the 
Clinton and George W Bush 

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administrations, and he also 
held positions on the Senate 

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Intelligence Committee. 
Mellon has been vocal in his 

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support for serious studies of 
Uaps, often emphasizing the need

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for government agencies to take 
reports from military personnel 

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and others seriously. 
He was involved in the release 

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of the US Navy videos showing 
encounters with unexplained 

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flying objects, which gained 
widespread attention. 

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Mellon has expressed concerns 
that Uaps could pose a potential

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national security threat, and 
advocates for more open, 

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scientific and government LED 
efforts to investigate them. 

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Mellon has also appeared in 
media outlets, documentaries and

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public discussions on the topic,
including as part of The History

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Channel Show Identified Inside 
America's UFO investigation, 

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where he collaborates with 
former Pentagon official Louis 

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Elizondo. 
He remains a key figure in the 

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broader movement to destigmatize
the study of UFOs and Uaps and 

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to push for greater government 
disclosure on the issue. 

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Now that's a nice little 
summary, but they kind of gloss 

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over the Tic Tac issue and they 
kind of gloss over his 

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relationship with Julie 
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So let's see if we can dive a 
little bit deeper into that. 

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So if you've listened to this 
podcast, you've probably heard 

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me talk about the story of 
Christopher Mellon passing off 

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the Tic Tac videos to Louis 
Alexando and New York Times. 

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And how Tom Delong ended up 
posting these things on his 2D 

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Academy of Stars website with a 
big old watermark plastered all 

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over him. 
And how I just really questioned

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the chain of custody here and 
the idea that people were 

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allowed to profit off these 
things. 

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And why weren't these things 
just released publicly in the 

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1st place? 
So I asked chat GTP about 

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Christopher Mellon's involvement
with the Navy UFO videos. 

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We're talking Tic Tac and the 
other ones. 

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ChatGPT says Christopher Mellon 
played a pivotal role in the 

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release of the now famous U.S. 
Navy videos showing encounters 

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with unidentified aerial 
Phenomena, Uaps, which helped 

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bring mainstream attention to 
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His involvement occurred during 
his post government career, 

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particularly through his 
association with the two the 

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Stars Academy of Arts and 
Science TTSA, an organization 

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focused on UFO research founded 
by Tom Delong, former lead 

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vocalist of the of the Bay and 
Blink 182. 

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Here's a detailed account of 
Mellon's actions regarding the 

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release. 
So here we have this guy who's 

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been what kind of a career 
government employee seems like 

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he's using that revolving 
doorman. 

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He's going from the DoD or 
whatever right into Tom Delong's

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new company. 
And soon as he's out of his 

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government job, he's knocking on
the door asking those people to 

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release videos, which Tom can 
then profit off of. 

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Says #1 obtaining the videos. 
In 2017, Mellon became aware of 

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several videos captured by U.S. 
Navy pilots that showed 

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unexplained objects exhibiting 
flight characteristics far 

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beyond the capabilities of known
human technology. 

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These videos, commonly referred 
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Fast, were recorded during 
separate encounters between Navy

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fighter pilots and Uaps between 
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Mellon worked with individuals 
inside the government who were 

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concerned about the secrecy and 
lack of serious investigation 

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into these accounts. 
These individuals were able to 

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secure the declassification of 
these videos, which was a 

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critical step toward making them
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Real, real issue right there. 
So ChatGPT is telling us that 

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he's going kind of behind the 
scenes and working with people, 

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well, people maybe he used to 
work with. 

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Why aren't these individuals 
named #2 leaking the videos? 

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Once the videos were 
declassified, Mellon anonymously

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provided them to The New York 
Times and to TTSA. 

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Hey, I'll give them to the New 
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for. 
How convenient. 

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With the belief that public 
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government to take the UAP issue
more seriously, in 2017 The New 

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York Times published an article 
titled Glowing Auroras and Black

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Money Depending on its 
Mysterious UFO Program, which 

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featured the videos and 
discussed depending on its 

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advantage to Aerospace Threat 
Identification Program AATIPA 

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secretive program investigating 
Uaps. 

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Now, we're not even sure if 
AATIP was an actual program or a

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nickname for a program, but a 
lot of talk about that. 

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Mellon has since acknowledged in
interviews that he was a person 

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responsible for getting the 
videos to the New York Times 

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without disclosing specific 
details of the process. 

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Man, I don't know how you get by
with that. 

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Number three, public advocacy 
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It says, remember, this is 
ChatGPT telling us that, not my 

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words, there's. 
Following the publication of the

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videos, Mellon began speaking 
publicly about the encounters 

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and the need for the US 
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more thoroughly. 
His goal was to break the stigma

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surrounding the topic and 
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scientific inquiry into the 
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Mellon emphasized that these 
Uaps pose potential national 

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concert national security 
concerns due to their unknown 

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origins and advanced 
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He argued that the videos 
demonstrated an issue that 

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warranted serious attention from
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government. 
Goes on down and says working 

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with the media. 
Mellon furthered the discussion 

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by appearing in various media 
outlets and documentaries, most 

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notably in The History Channel 
series Unidentified Inside 

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America's UFO Investigation. 
On the show, he and his 

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colleague Louis Elizondo, a 
former Pentagon official who 

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also worked with ATIP, discussed
the Navy pilots encounters and 

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advocated for greater 
transparency from the Department

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of Defense. 
Vince is pushing for policy 

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changes as a result of Mellon's 
actions and the public interest 

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generated by the videos. the US 
government has taken steps to 

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acknowledge the existence of 
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The Department of Defense 
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the videos in 2023, years later,
and formally established the UAP

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task force to investigate such 
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Mellon has continued to push for
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the release of further 
information and more rigorous 

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scientific investigations. 
In summary, Mellon's involvement

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in the release of the Navy 
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orchestrated effort to bring the
UAP issue to public attention by

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working within the government to
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facilitating its release through
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His advocacy has been 
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government toward greater 
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Still kind of glossing over the 
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there with to the Stars. 
Let's go ahead and push ChatGPT 

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just a little bit further. 
So I asked ChatGPT, I said 

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there's a story that Mellon 
actually handed off the videos 

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and questioned to Luby Elizondo 
Independent on parking lot. 

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Tell me more about that. 
Well, they did have something to

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say, ChatGPT replies. 
Yes, there is an intriguing 

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story about Christopher Mellon 
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declassified Navy UFO videos to 
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parking lot. 
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notable part of the narrative 
surrounding the release of the 

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famous Navy UFO encounters. 
Here's a more detailed account 

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of that moment and its content. 
Number one, it says the context,

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Mellon's frustration with 
secrecy. 

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Wow. 
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described Snowden as frustration
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Maybe he wouldn't have been 
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Christopher Mellon, having 
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intelligence roles, became 
increasingly frustrated with the

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lack of government attention and
transparency regarding UFO 

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encounters. 
He believed that these 

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incidents, many of which are 
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Navy personnel and showed 
advanced unidentified aerial 

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phenomena UAP, what we call 
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investigation for national 
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Mellon was also deeply concerned
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and stigma surrounding UFOs 
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intelligence communities. 
He felt that the public had the 

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right to know that these 
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that their disclosure could spur
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#2 Meeting with Louis Elizondo 
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The famous parking lot handoff 
involved Christopher Mellon and 

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Louis Elizondo, a former 
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Advanced Aerospace Threat 
Identification Program AATIP, a 

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secretive Pentagon program 
dedicated to investigating UFO 

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sightings, particularly those by
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Mellon had been working to 
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including the now infamous 
videos Fleer, Gimble and Go 

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Fast, captured by Navy pilots 
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Uaps. 
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2017, Mellon met with Elizondo 
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he handed over the videos. 
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part of Mellon's effort to 
transfer the footage for 

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eventual public release. 
I don't know, why not just 

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release it? 
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conversation and the logistics 
of how the videos were secured 

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remain largely undisclosed, but 
it has been suggested that the 

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videos were declassified by 
legitimate government channels, 

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allowing them to be shared with 
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Man, that is sketchy. 
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The act of handing over the 
videos symbolized the 

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frustration both men felt about 
the slow moving governmental 

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process surrounding UAP research
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traditional routes of 
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This informal exchange in a 
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how far Mellon was willing to go
to push the UAP issue into the 

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public domain. 
I have questions, it says, 

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released to the New York Times 
and Public Impact. 

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After receiving the videos, 
Mellon worked behind the scenes 

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to ensure they reached The New 
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That newspaper published an 
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which not only included the 
footage but also reveal the 

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existence of AATIP. 
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and countering fast moving 
inexplicable objects but no 

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visible propulsion systems 
became a central part of the US 

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government's emerging UFO story.
The leak was a calculated move 

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by Mellon and Elizondo to force 
the government to address these 

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incidents openly. 
They believe that by bringing 

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the issue into the spotlight, 
they could would encourage 

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further investigation and prompt
the government to acknowledge 

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the reality of these encounters.
Mellon has spoken publicly about

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his release of the videos, but 
has been careful not to divulge 

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too many operational details. 
He views the hand off as a 

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necessary action to breakthrough
the government's reluctance to 

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discuss Uaps and provide the 
public with clear evidence that 

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these unexplained encounters 
were real and had been witnessed

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by highly trained members 
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In later interviews, Mellon 
expressed satisfaction with the 

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outcome of this event, as it led
to a broader conversation about 

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Uaps and eventually forced the 
Pentagon to confirm the 

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authenticity of the videos. 
He continues to advocate for a 

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more transparent and scientific 
approach to studying Uaps, 

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believing that these objects 
could pose potential security 

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risk. 
Wow, the significance of the 

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handoff, It says. 
This is ChatGPT talking again. 

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The handoff of the videos in a 
Pentagon parking lot has since 

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become an emblematic moment in 
the broader UFO disclosure 

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movement. 
It demonstrated that individuals

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within the government, including
people like Mellon and Elizondo,

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or willing to take 
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the public's right to know about
UAP encounters. 

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This act helped shape the future
disclosure of UFOs, breaking 

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down some of the barriers of 
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subject for decades. 
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Christopher Mellon handing the 
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depending on the parking lot is 
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with the lack of transparency 
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regarding UFOs. 
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subsequent release of the videos
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public discourse on Uaps, 
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acknowledgement and an open 
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Which actually, BT really seems 
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bromance with these guys. 
I'm interested if this was even 

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legal what they did. 
Let's ask a couple more 

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questions here as we continue 
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Now, I've had a lot of questions
since the very beginning about 

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whether this was even legal, 
what Mellon and Elizondo 

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reportedly did, the Pentagon 
packing parking lot passing off 

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this stuff. 
So I asked ChatGPT, is this even

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legal? 
And they say, well, the legality

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of what Christopher Mellon and 
Louis Elizondo did in the 

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Pentagon parking lot, 
specifically regarding the 

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handoff of U.S. 
Navy UFO videos, has been a 

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point of speculation and 
discussion. 

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From available information, it 
appears that Mellon and Elizondo

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carefully operated within legal 
boundaries when transferring the

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videos for public release, but 
the specifics of how they 

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navigated the complex rules of 
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somewhat unclear. 
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Well, This is why I think it 
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Declassification of the video is
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the legality of the handoff is 
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the videos. 
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Elizondo, the videos they handed
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Fast, had been declassified 
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channels prior to their release.
These videos were part of AUS 

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Navy training exercise and had 
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standard declassification 
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longer classified as sensitive 
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But if nobody in the public knew
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supposed to access them? 
If the videos had remained 

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classified, releasing or even 
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approved channels would have 
been illegal under US laws 

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governing the handling of 
classified information, such as 

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the Espionage Act. 
However, since the videos were 

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declassified, Mellon and 
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violation of these laws by 
transferring or discussing them 

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outside classified settings. 
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sensitive information. 
While the videos themselves were

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reportedly declassified, it's 
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information related to UAPS and 
the Advanced Aerospace Threat 

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Identification Program, ATIP, 
might still have been 

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classified. 
Both Mellon and Elizondo, as 

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former government officials with
security clearances, would have 

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been well aware of the laws 
governing classified information

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and the penalties for improper 
disclosure. 

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By carefully ensuring that only 
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transferred and shared, they 
likely avoided breaching legal 

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boundaries. 
Both Mellon and Elizondo have 

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stressed that they adhere to the
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avoid compromising national 
security, which suggests they 

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were cautious to ensure they 
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Then it has a government 
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The US governments reaction to 
the videos release further 

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suggests that what Mellon and 
Elizondo did was legal, rather 

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than facing immediate legal 
action or accusations and from 

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properly handling classified 
information. 

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Both men continued to speak 
publicly about Uaps, and the 

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Pentagon eventually confirmed 
the authenticity of the videos 

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in 2020. 
The Department of Defense did 

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not indicate any wrongdoing 
regarding how the videos were 

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handled prior to their release. 
Furthermore, the Pentagon's own 

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UAP Task Force and the All 
Domain Anomaly Research Office 

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was formed after public interest
surged in part due to these 

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videos, and the government since
has since acknowledged the 

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reality of UAP sightings. 
Yeah, well, not according to 

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Arrow. 
I mean, Fitzpatrick says they're

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all fake. 
They're all the, none of none of

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them are extraterrestrial or 
intermensional. 

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Nothing identified. 
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adversaries or high tech stuff 
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drones. 
It's Mellon, Reynolds Ando had 

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violated the law. 
It is likely they would have 

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been subjected to internal 
investigations or legal actions 

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which did not happen. 
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strategic considerations While 
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Elizondo did was legal, there is
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whether it was ethical or 
advisable from an internal 

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governmental perspective. 
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declassified information, when 
released in a certain way, such 

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as via media outlets, especially
when you work for like to the 

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Stars, could cause issues for 
the government in terms of 

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public relations, security, or 
ongoing investigations. 

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Mellon and Elizondo likely await
these concerns. 

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Against what they saw as a 
pressing need for public 

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awareness and governmental 
action on Uaps, why didn't they 

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just release the stuff on New 
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They believe the release of the 
videos could break the 

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bureaucratic secrecy surrounding
UFO encounters and prompt more 

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rigorous study of the phenomena.
In their view, the potential 

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benefits of disclosure 
outweighed any internal 

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governmental friction or 
hesitation. 

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And it says #5 congressional 
support, congregational and 

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public support. 
In the aftermath of the video 

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releases, the US Congress, as 
well as the general public, 

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increase your calls for more 
transparencies on UA PS Congress

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even passed legislation 
requiring regular reporting on 

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UAP encounters by military 
personnel. 

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This indicates that Mellon and 
Elizondo's actions, while 

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unorthodox, were ultimately seen
by many as valuable for pushing 

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forward the conversation on UA 
PS. 

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And then, in conclusion, it says
from all available evidence, it 

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appears that what Mellon and 
Elizondo did in the Pentagon 

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parking lot was legal. 
The key factor is that the 

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videos had been declassified, 
making their transfer and 

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eventual released to the public 
lawful. 

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While unconventional and perhaps
risky from an internal 

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government standpoint, the 
actions did not break US laws 

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regarding the handling of 
classified information. 

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Both Mellon and Elizondo acted 
carefully to avoid crossing 

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legal boundaries, and their 
efforts have. 

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Since played a significant role 
in prompting further 

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investigation and public 
warrants and Uaps. 

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OK, I've got a couple more 
questions that I want to ask as 

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far as following the money goes 
from chat GDP and then we'll 

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wrap this up. 
So something that's really been 

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kind of a Burr under my saddle 
since this whole thing started 

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where you have the alleged hand 
off of the videos between Mellon

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and Elizondo. 
The New York Times gets a copy 

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and To the Stars Academy gets a 
copy Tom Delong's company. 

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And those videos are posted on 
YouTube with a giant watermark 

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of To the Stars Academy can't 
even estimate the value of that 

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free advertising for their 
company. 

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But my question was, how much 
are they making just in YouTube 

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ads? 
So I asked Chad GBT, what's your

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estimate on this? 
And I think, I think they 

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lowballed it, but it's still 
something as they say. 

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It's difficult to estimate 
exactly how much Tom Delonge's 

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company to the Star Wars Academy
of Arts and Science might have 

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earned from the YouTube ad 
revenue for the videos involving

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UFO UAP encounters that were 
released with the help of 

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Christopher Mellon and Louis 
Elizondo. 

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However, we can make a rough 
estimate based on a few key 

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factors related to YouTube ad 
revenue. 

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Factors to consider YouTube 
views the videos, particularly 

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the flirt 1 gimbal and go fast 
clips, gained widespread 

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attention after their release in
2017. 

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They were featured in many major
media outlets, including The New

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York Times, which drove 
significant traffic to platforms

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like YouTube where they were 
hosted. 

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For the purpose of this 
estimate, let's assume that 

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across all sources and 
repostings on TTSA's YouTube 

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channel and other affiliate 
outlets, the videos collectively

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amassed several million views. 
We can assume that we can 

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estimate that the UFO videos 
each garnered between one to 10 

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million views on YouTube, with 
some conservative assumptions 

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putting the total around 10 
million views to account for 

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various repost features and 
clips across different channels.

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YouTube ad revenue YouTube ad 
revenue is typically calculated 

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based on CPM costs per 
thousands. 

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Then it goes on here and says 
the range might range between 

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2:00 to 5:00 bucks and they're 
doing all their estimates and it

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says YouTube's cut 45% blah blah
blah. 

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Anyway, they come up with a 
total ad revenue of around 

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$30,000 with Delong's company 
taking home 16,500. 

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Now, I think that's really low 
myself because I think the views

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were a lot higher. 
My opinion, but still $16,500 

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because they got the videos 
before anybody else did. 

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There's a money angle to this. 
Yes, we all love the idea of a 

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pure study and investigation 
into UFO stuff, but there's also

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money involved. 
And some of these big 

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entertainment places are making 
lots of money. 

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I don't begrudge them that. 
It takes work to build a podcast

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or a YouTube channel or 
documentary. 

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But the fact is, if you're given
a video that nobody else has 

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access to, and you can run with 
that and rack up 10 million 

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views before anybody else has a 
chance to jump on board, that's 

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great. 
I mean, I can only imagine if 

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some former government employee 
handed me a video that had been 

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laundered through a major paper 
like New York Times and said, 

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hey, UFO warning, go ahead and 
post this. 

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And then I've got sixteen, 
$17,000 in my pocket before 

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anybody else even knows the 
thing has hit the floor. 

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See what I'm saying? 
So that's an ethical thing to 

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me. 
Now, I'm also interested in 

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saying just how much money 
Christopher Mellon makes off his

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appearances and stuff. 
And then we'll go ahead and 

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we'll wrap this up. 
So I asked ChatGPT to give me an

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estimate how much money they 
think that Christopher Mellon 

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has made from his various 
appearances on television and 

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that UFO conventions and such 
talking about this stuff. 

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I'm just curious. 
ChatGPT says estimating how much

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money Christopher Mellon has 
made from his various 

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appearances on television 
programs and conventions related

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to UFOs is challenging because 
his earnings are not publicly 

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disclosed. 
Additionally, many of his 

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appearances may not be solely 
for financial gain, but rather 

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part of his broader mission to 
raise awareness about UFOs and 

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Uaps. 
That said, we can provide a 

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rough estimate based on typical 
compensation models for public 

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figures and similar roles, says 
number one key revenue streams 

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to consider #1 television 
programs and documentaries. 

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Mellon has appeared on several 
high profile TV shows and 

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documentaries discussing UFOs, 
most notably the History 

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Channel's series Unidentified 
America's UFO Investigations 

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2019, which Mellon Co produced 
and in which he frequently 

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appeared alongside former 
Pentagon official Louis 

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Elizondo. 
For a Co producer or frequent 

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guest on a series like like 
Unidentified, Mellon might have 

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earned a moderate appearance fee
or production credit. 

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While it's hard to know exactly 
how much he was paid, someone in

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his position might earn between 
$10,000 and $50,000 per episode,

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depending on contract terms, the
show's success, and his level of

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involvement with multiple 
episodes aired across multiple 

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seasons, he could have made 
100,000 to $300,000 or more from

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this series alone. 
Wow. 

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Conventions and speaking 
engagements Mellon has been a 

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featured speaker at UFO 
conferences such as the Contact 

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and the Desert Convention, as 
well as other industry events 

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focused on UFOs and national 
security. 

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He also speaks at general 
security, defense, and 

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intelligence related 
conferences. 

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The typical speaker fee for 
someone of Mellon stature, a 

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former high-ranking government 
official and a notable voice in 

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the UFO community, could range 
from $10,000 to $30,000 per 

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speaking engagement. 
For larger conventions or 

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events, especially where he's a 
headline speaker, this fee could

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be even higher. 
If Mellon participates in 

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several conferences annually, 
say around 5 or 10 appearances, 

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he might make around 50,000 to 
$300,000 per year from speaking 

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engagements alone, depending on 
the events size and prominence. 

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Media appearances, news podcasts
and interviews. 

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It says Mellon regularly appears
in interviews both on mainstream

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news outlets like CNN and Fox 
News, and in more specialized 

464
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,400
UFO related podcasts or YouTube 
channels. 

465
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Most media appearances do not 
generate significant income 

466
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,640
unless they are tied to a 
specific production or involve 

467
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,320
sponsorship agreements. 
Many of these appearances may 

468
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,680
not involve large fees, but they
contribute to its overall public

469
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,720
profile, indirectly driving 
revenue through book deals, paid

470
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,280
speaking opportunities or 
consulting work. 

471
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,680
And, it says, consulting or 
advisory work. 

472
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Given his expertise in 
intelligence and national 

473
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560
security, Mellon may also have 
been engaged as a consultant or 

474
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,280
advisor for various media 
projects, documentaries or 

475
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,200
research initiatives related to 
UFOs. 

476
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Uaps fees for consulting vary 
widely, but someone of Mellon's 

477
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:44,480
background could command 1000 to
$5000 per day for advisory roles

478
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,120
on specific projects. 
Wow. 

479
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,800
Total estimate, it says. 
Considering all these factors, 

480
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,360
it's plausible that Christopher 
Mellon has made several $100,000

481
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,840
from his work related to UFOs 
over the past few years. 

482
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,120
Here's a rough breakdown. 
Television series Unidentified, 

483
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:06,160
estimated 100 to $300,000. 
Conventions and speaking 

484
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960
engagements 50 to 300,000 per 
year. 

485
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,720
Media and consulting likely 
additional revenue with smaller 

486
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,080
amounts compared to TV and 
speaking possibly 20 to 50,000 

487
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,680
per year. 
So it says for a conservative 

488
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,880
overall estimate, over the past 
several years, Mellon may have 

489
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,080
earned between 200,000 and 
$600,000 or more from his 

490
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,080
various UFO related appearances 
and projects, depending on how 

491
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,280
frequently he's participated in 
these activities and the 

492
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,360
specific terms of his 
engagements. 

493
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440
However, it's important to note 
that Mellon's primary motivation

494
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,320
for involvement in the UFO field
seems to be advocacy and raising

495
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,840
awareness, not solely financial 
gain. 

496
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,760
That's nice to tag that on 
there. 

497
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,320
But I mean, if he only cared 
about releasing this stuff to 

498
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,560
the public, wouldn't he just go 
ahead and give that money away 

499
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,600
then? 
I don't know. 

500
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,160
So this is what I'm getting at. 
The guy's got a background, you 

501
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,800
know, working in the government,
high security level, high level 

502
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400
background. 
It looks pretty certain, at 

503
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,840
least on the face of it 
allegedly, that him and Louis 

504
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,560
conspired to release these in 
Navy videos, which ended up in 

505
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,520
the hands of the New York Times 
and Tom Delong. 

506
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Tom Delong splatters him. 
All of his YouTube site Jack GPT

507
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:23,000
says it looks like he 
conservatively made $16,500. 

508
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,400
That's not even considered in 
the free marketing he got. 

509
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,880
They're telling us that Mellon 
could have made between 200,000 

510
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240
and 600,000, maybe more the last
few years. 

511
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,800
I think Mellon is independently 
wealthy anyway, as I as I 

512
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,840
recall, he does descend from the
banking line of the famous 

513
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,720
melons. 
I don't think money is really an

514
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,080
issue to him. 
To me, I think he's mainly just 

515
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,800
having fun and any extra money 
that comes in, well, that's just

516
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,360
a little extra free frosting on 
the cake as far as I can tell. 

517
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,200
I'm not saying he's a bad 
person, he seems like a decent 

518
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,480
enough guy, but I just wish that
him and Louis would have done 

519
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,760
things differently when they 
released those videos. 

520
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,400
I think the thing to do there 
would have been to have released

521
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,400
them and posted them on a site 
like New Fork and then announced

522
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,120
what they had done. 
And then anybody could go there,

523
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160
download the videos, talk about 
the videos. 

524
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840
You wouldn't have had to use Tom
Delong as a gatekeeper. 

525
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,160
And so that's my biggest problem
with Christopher Melon as this 

526
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,840
revolving door thing going from 
the government into Tom Delong 

527
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,120
now into his own stuff, kind of 
using his government job as a 

528
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,960
springboard, which I guess 
that's fine. 

529
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,760
But if a person's primary goal 
is to monetize this stuff as 

530
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,640
opposed to just releasing it 
like they could have done, I 

531
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,480
mean, literally, they could have
taken these videos, they could 

532
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960
have made copies of them, and 
they could have posted them on 

533
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,960
New Fork with an explanation. 
And then people could have went 

534
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,840
there and viewed this stuff for 
themselves. 

535
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,000
They didn't have to monetize it,
but everything they did seemed 

536
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,680
to be like to keep it as secret 
as possible until they were able

537
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,360
to get as much money out of it 
as possible. 

538
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Really use it as fuel for their 
careers, Use it as fuel for 

539
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,280
people. 
Describing them as 

540
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,920
whistleblowers went to my mind. 
A true whistleblower would have 

541
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,480
just posted the stuff online on 
New Fork, possibly anonymously, 

542
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400
and then just left it there. 
They wouldn't have had to try to

543
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,480
parlay this whole thing into 
some sort of production company 

544
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,400
or multiple appearances at 
different UFO conferences. 

545
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,960
And if they want to do that, 
that's fine. 

546
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,760
But I think that the ethical 
thing, the most ethical thing at

547
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,960
least, would have been to have 
posted the stuff over at a site 

548
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,680
like Newport where everybody had
access to it, instead of trying 

549
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,680
to build a wall around it. 
A paywall in effect. 

550
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,560
But that's just my opinion. 
Until next time, this is UFO 

551
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,800
warning over now.