1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,720 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,960 Today's case Bud Hopkins alien abductions. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,640 And we're talking about the late, great Bud Hopkins and now 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,560 deceased UFO investigator and some of the UF abductions and 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,470 UFO cases that he looked at. I found an interesting article 6 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:28,110 actually listed on pbs.org from Nova talking about that. 7 00:00:28,110 --> 00:00:30,510 It's a short read, but I think it'll be a fun thing to look at 8 00:00:30,510 --> 00:00:33,390 for the weekend. And before we get into that, I 9 00:00:33,390 --> 00:00:38,870 want to go ahead and just take a look at the the Bud Hopkins bio 10 00:00:38,870 --> 00:00:42,070 on Wikipedia. It says Elliot Bud Hopkins, born 11 00:00:42,070 --> 00:00:49,350 June 15th, 1931, died August 21st, 2011. 12 00:00:49,830 --> 00:00:53,570 Says he was an American artist, author, and ufologist. 13 00:00:53,810 --> 00:00:57,410 He was a prominent figure in the alien abduction phenomena and 14 00:00:57,410 --> 00:01:01,690 related UFO research. It was on to say that he was 15 00:01:01,690 --> 00:01:07,850 born in Wheeling, WV, June 15th, 1931 and died August 21st, 2011 16 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:11,730 New York, NY. Went to school Oberlin College. 17 00:01:12,210 --> 00:01:16,450 His occupation was artist, author, ufologist and 18 00:01:16,450 --> 00:01:18,530 organization of Intruders Foundation. 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,800 Looks like his first spouse preceded him in death. 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,960 His second and third spouse also preceded him in death. 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,680 And then it has a nice little write up here about about Mr. 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,120 Hopkins. But I want to go ahead and get 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:41,200 into First off the the article that I found here on npr.org. 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,600 The first case we'll take a couple looks at, but I want to 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,000 because I've done a podcast on the first one once already. 26 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,520 It's called a Manhattan Transfer, I think is what the 27 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,160 title was. It was about a lady that was 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,120 actually abducted and levitated out of her apartment window into 29 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,720 a UFO, and we'll get right into that. 30 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Now the article here is, like I said, from pbs.org. 31 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,800 I have a link posted at the Twitter account UFO warning. 32 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Of course you can get there by just going to the Twitter 33 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,560 account UFO warning or at warning sub UFO and why are 34 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,000 there do a follow. It says excerpts from interview 35 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,360 with Bud Hopkins. His cases people who believe 36 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,080 they have been abducted by aliens. 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,160 And then it starts off. It says the Linda case file. 38 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,240 That is the Linda case abduction file. 39 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,560 It says here Hopkins the best case says this is him speaking 40 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,720 the best case that I had ever worked with. 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,250 And it's extraordinarily important, and it's the subject 42 00:02:46,290 --> 00:02:48,170 of the book that I'm working on right now. 43 00:02:48,490 --> 00:02:52,930 It involves a woman who was abducted who I had worked with 44 00:02:53,290 --> 00:02:57,130 before this experience. She was abducted from a 12th 45 00:02:57,130 --> 00:03:02,090 floor apartment in Manhattan, floated out the window, and in 46 00:03:02,090 --> 00:03:06,650 this case, the UFO occupants wanted this to be seen for 47 00:03:06,650 --> 00:03:11,730 various complicated reasons. So therefore it was not masked 48 00:03:11,890 --> 00:03:15,530 or hidden or whatnot. Even though it was three in the 49 00:03:15,530 --> 00:03:17,730 morning. This woman was witnessed 50 00:03:17,970 --> 00:03:23,410 floating with three aliens below the UFO12, stories up by a 51 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:26,330 number of different people who I have heard from. 52 00:03:26,730 --> 00:03:29,170 One of the people who I interviewed at great length 53 00:03:29,450 --> 00:03:33,090 described her absolute terror when they saw this site from the 54 00:03:33,090 --> 00:03:36,010 Brooklyn Bridge, her first attempt to explain it to 55 00:03:36,010 --> 00:03:39,410 herself. This can't happen was somebody 56 00:03:39,410 --> 00:03:42,130 must be making a movie. This must be a movie, because 57 00:03:42,130 --> 00:03:45,640 this is impossible. And yet I'm looking at it. 58 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,360 There were other people on the bridge too, also terrified. 59 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,720 There are people floating in the air as they described it, and 60 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,240 that's exactly how she claimed that it happened. 61 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,800 She's just levitated out of her bedroom window on the 12th floor 62 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,480 somehow and the next thing she knows, she's looking down and, 63 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,200 you know, 150 feet below her there's the streets, the 64 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,360 sidewalks, and then city of New York below her as she's 65 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,640 levitated. And more or less just almost 66 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,120 like she's vacuumed up into this UFO. 67 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,320 It says people on the ground contacted me. 68 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,160 They still have not wanted their names used. 69 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,320 They're they've not wanted to talk to me personally for 70 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,520 various reasons, but described exactly the same thing. 71 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,320 I've got matching sets of drawings of what everyone saw 72 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,800 from their own perspectives. So you see, what you have here 73 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:45,090 is the investigator has multiple witnesses seeing the same thing 74 00:04:45,250 --> 00:04:47,850 at the same time. He goes on and says another 75 00:04:47,850 --> 00:04:52,090 woman who I've dealt with at length, saw the UFO right next 76 00:04:52,090 --> 00:04:55,450 to the building from which this woman was floated out. 77 00:04:55,970 --> 00:05:00,250 She said it was enormous and at that point, somehow her car 78 00:05:00,250 --> 00:05:04,330 stopped and their memories are very unclear from that point on. 79 00:05:04,330 --> 00:05:08,520 As if somehow or other, as often happens in these cases, there 80 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,440 was some kind of effect, electromagnetic effect or 81 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,080 whatever, we don't know what to call it, which stopped the car 82 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:19,760 and their memories only went up to the point of seeing this UFO 83 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:25,240 directly next to the building before the people floated out. 84 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:28,440 It's almost like this UFO was an opportunity. 85 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Employer just decided to slide around the top of this building, 86 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:38,400 reach in and grab a couple of unsuspecting abductees, he says. 87 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,400 I have another witness at another location here. 88 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,800 We have eyewitnesses to people doing an impossible thing 89 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,520 floating 12 stories up and a beam of light. 90 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,600 There's much, much other testimony connected with this, 91 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,080 some of which I'm not at liberty to present right now. 92 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Now you know, that whole beam of light thing? 93 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,400 That's something that many of us have experienced with encounters 94 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,110 with UFOSUFO sightings. It's just this brilliant light. 95 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:07,990 It's almost like an encompassing light that just comes down and 96 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:10,950 it's as if there's no shadows to it. 97 00:06:11,030 --> 00:06:13,230 And it seems like this is what's going on here with this woman. 98 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:20,790 She's just being levitated up toward, lifted up to the UFO. 99 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:23,230 And it's almost like in this case, this light is some kind of 100 00:06:23,230 --> 00:06:25,430 a tractor being maybe goes on here. 101 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:29,770 It says Bud Hopkins. First case, Hopkins says. 102 00:06:29,770 --> 00:06:32,930 When I had looked into the very first case that I investigated, 103 00:06:32,930 --> 00:06:37,770 which was back in 1975, having to do with the landing, that was 104 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:41,370 observed by a man I knew in New Jersey, the little figures 105 00:06:41,370 --> 00:06:44,130 getting out, digging oil samples, etcetera. 106 00:06:44,410 --> 00:06:47,610 And I checked into the apartment building that faced this part 107 00:06:47,850 --> 00:06:51,010 where the landing took place. It took me weeks to try to run 108 00:06:51,010 --> 00:06:54,850 down a man who was, who was probably the night doorman at 109 00:06:54,850 --> 00:06:57,930 the time of this landing case. And when I finally got to him on 110 00:06:57,930 --> 00:07:01,920 the phone and I ask a very loaded question, do you remember 111 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 anything unusual happening in the park around January of this 112 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,640 year? And the man said to me, I 113 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,600 certainly do, I'll never forget it. 114 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,600 This UFO came down and landed in the park and scared me half to 115 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,640 death. And as he started to describe 116 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,240 it, I started to get chills because something in me, even at 117 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,240 that date after I had a sighting years before, did not want to 118 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,440 accept that this could have really, really happened. 119 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,480 That's very, that's really insightful. 120 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,240 There you see this guy this season, investigator looking 121 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,360 back and seeing the moment where he had this epiphany that these 122 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,640 things are real and that they're presenting themselves to People 123 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,280 didn't know what they are, but they're certainly there. 124 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,000 And I like the fact that how he gets a hold of this guy months 125 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,520 later and the gentleman is just matter of fact about what 126 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,400 happened, you know, classic eyewitness account. 127 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Yeah, of course I remember that goes on. 128 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,320 It says a letter to Bud. Hop to Bud Hopkins. 129 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,080 And here it says Hopkins. She says, here's a letter, a 130 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,280 woman writing about her child. She was so concerned. 131 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Her daughter is 3 years old. When she was putting her 132 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,920 daughter to bed, the little girl cried and cried and said I want 133 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,840 to hide. And the woman asked why and she 134 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,800 said I'm hiding because the little people are coming to get 135 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,960 me. This really frightened the 136 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,040 mother and she asked what happened with the little people, 137 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,920 the mother wrote. She told me they come into her 138 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,920 room, take her outside, that they have big eyes and that she 139 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,440 went up into the sky with the man. 140 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,039 I asked what happened up there and she said they took me to see 141 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:36,120 the doctor. The next day she saw a 142 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,440 television program. Her mother was sitting there, a 143 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,400 cover of a book about abductions with the face of an alien. 144 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 The little girl jumped to her knees pointing at the TV, 145 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,880 shouting that's them mommy, the people. 146 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,600 She covered her eyes and said, I'm scared mommy. 147 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,680 I've never seen such fear in the cold before. 148 00:08:53,310 --> 00:08:56,950 Within that same week she drew many faces with only very large 149 00:08:56,950 --> 00:09:00,110 dark eyes. I also noticed at that time 150 00:09:00,110 --> 00:09:04,670 while undressing her three tiny raised pin like marks near her 151 00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:07,950 navel and the same under her left nostril. 152 00:09:08,270 --> 00:09:11,790 That same day she also had a pretty bad nose blade. 153 00:09:12,110 --> 00:09:15,750 This is something we've heard over and over again with these 154 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:20,870 alien implant cases where these aliens graze or whatever they 155 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:26,720 are taking people injecting some kind of a device into their 156 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,600 navel to maybe do some sort of medical experiment or maybe 157 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,480 they're just observing how the human body works. 158 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,560 But oftentimes we find implants implanted into the navel area or 159 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,800 the nasal area. Now, when you hear about these 160 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,320 cases, I have to tell you that my whole thought about space 161 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,050 brothers disappears. I see these things as space 162 00:09:50,050 --> 00:09:52,450 monsters. To abduct a child like this and 163 00:09:52,450 --> 00:09:55,610 terrorize them, literally to just take them on board a 164 00:09:55,610 --> 00:10:00,010 spaceship and conduct whatever kind of medical experiments they 165 00:10:00,010 --> 00:10:03,450 chose to, as if this little kid was was just a specimen for them 166 00:10:03,450 --> 00:10:07,730 to play with. This takes me back to the wasn't 167 00:10:07,730 --> 00:10:10,690 the Berkshires case where the one of the women had talked 168 00:10:10,690 --> 00:10:13,450 about being abducted onto the ship and seeing children on the 169 00:10:13,450 --> 00:10:15,970 ship. That's a pretty scary thought, 170 00:10:15,970 --> 00:10:20,230 to think that children could be, could be being abducted by these 171 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:23,870 things and maybe kept there, you know, for some time, whether 172 00:10:23,870 --> 00:10:26,710 they're doing some sort of DNA research or whatever. 173 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:30,590 These are all very disturbing scenarios to play through our 174 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:34,190 mind. But it also makes sense in a 175 00:10:34,190 --> 00:10:38,310 way, because it would explain why our own government, our own 176 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:41,910 deep state, is so reluctant to share what they know about these 177 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:45,510 things. Perhaps they know what's going 178 00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:48,350 on, and they know how upset people would be if they actually 179 00:10:48,350 --> 00:10:51,630 had to come to terms with the idea that people were being 180 00:10:51,630 --> 00:10:57,710 randomly abducted by aliens and having painful medical 181 00:10:57,710 --> 00:11:03,190 experiments done to them. They're just being processed 182 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:05,590 like a lab animal goes on and says this. 183 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:11,070 This also occurred every now and then this talking about the nose 184 00:11:11,070 --> 00:11:13,470 bleeds. And she mentions other things, 185 00:11:13,470 --> 00:11:18,070 such as they take my jammies off, they hurt me, etcetera. 186 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:21,790 That almost sounds like some sort of physical abuse. 187 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:25,750 I mean, you're taking a kid onto a spaceship and undressing them. 188 00:11:26,350 --> 00:11:31,350 Listen, these things are serious crimes in our society. 189 00:11:33,070 --> 00:11:36,750 It doesn't make it OK if these entities are from some other 190 00:11:36,750 --> 00:11:40,390 place or some other dimension. That doesn't give them the right 191 00:11:40,390 --> 00:11:44,890 to take a child and physically abuse it without its consent. 192 00:11:44,890 --> 00:11:46,450 Not that a child could give consent. 193 00:11:46,770 --> 00:11:51,170 So this is a very dark side to this whole phenomena that a lot 194 00:11:51,170 --> 00:11:53,130 of people like to ignore or gloss over. 195 00:11:53,370 --> 00:11:56,250 You know, adults can be abducted and come back and say, well, I 196 00:11:56,250 --> 00:12:01,610 think it was probably, you know, no bad intention, yada yada 197 00:12:01,610 --> 00:12:05,330 yada. But to abduct a child, to 198 00:12:05,330 --> 00:12:07,970 terrorize them with these experiments on board a spaceship 199 00:12:08,490 --> 00:12:13,930 and then send them back actually physically injured, their their 200 00:12:13,930 --> 00:12:17,530 intention doesn't matter because what they're doing is a crime. 201 00:12:17,530 --> 00:12:21,770 #1 and #2. This is not the sort of thing 202 00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:25,370 that anybody wants to have happen to them. 203 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:29,250 Or their child goes on here and says there's no way that one can 204 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:31,890 read these letters. Excuse me, I need to back up a 205 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:33,690 little bit since this all occurred. 206 00:12:33,690 --> 00:12:37,370 Every now and then she mentions other things, such as they take 207 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:39,940 my jammies off, they hurt me, etcetera. 208 00:12:40,180 --> 00:12:42,820 I realize you received many letters of this kind, some of 209 00:12:42,820 --> 00:12:45,340 which are funny, but believe me, this is not made-up. 210 00:12:45,620 --> 00:12:48,740 If this is all really happening to my little girl, please give 211 00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:52,180 me some advice as to how to help her deal with these visitations. 212 00:12:52,620 --> 00:12:57,420 I know you're a very busy man, but please, perhaps a short 213 00:12:57,420 --> 00:13:00,660 response to my letter may ease my anxiety a little. 214 00:13:00,660 --> 00:13:03,340 Mr. Hopkins, could this really be true? 215 00:13:03,340 --> 00:13:07,130 Thank you sincerely. And it says there's no way that 216 00:13:07,130 --> 00:13:09,450 one can read these letters without responding. 217 00:13:10,010 --> 00:13:13,610 And the idea that something like that is made-up by a publicity 218 00:13:13,610 --> 00:13:16,610 seeker or whatever skeptics like to say, it's just absolutely 219 00:13:16,610 --> 00:13:19,010 absurd. I have worked with some of these 220 00:13:19,010 --> 00:13:22,810 people afterwards, referred them to investigators, and I think we 221 00:13:22,810 --> 00:13:26,010 brought some relief for them and helping them explore what really 222 00:13:26,010 --> 00:13:29,530 happened to them in their lives. Now I'm going to try to find 223 00:13:29,530 --> 00:13:33,370 this investigator down the red, but there is a fellow out there 224 00:13:33,370 --> 00:13:38,800 that works with abductees and his view of this is that these 225 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,400 things are demonic. And he's had cases with people 226 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,880 that have been repeatedly abducted against your will and 227 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,280 they take more of a guess. You've been called religious 228 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,920 approach, where they actually use the name of Jesus to rebuke 229 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,240 these things as if it was an exorcism, almost. 230 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,320 And he says that they've had great success. 231 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,560 It's hard to argue that these things aren't evil when they're 232 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:11,690 abducting children, taking their clothes off and doing invasive, 233 00:14:11,970 --> 00:14:14,730 hurtful medical procedures on them. 234 00:14:15,610 --> 00:14:20,570 So it's it's a very strange situation, a typical case here, 235 00:14:20,570 --> 00:14:23,130 it, says Hopkins. I was working with the man who 236 00:14:23,130 --> 00:14:26,290 once was a Lieutenant in the Army at the time of the 237 00:14:26,290 --> 00:14:30,890 incident, big, tall man, Irish man, pretty macho, had a young 238 00:14:30,890 --> 00:14:34,170 wife and a little baby, and he told me that he was taken into 239 00:14:34,170 --> 00:14:39,880 the craft, put on the table, paralyzed, terrified, couldn't 240 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,240 move. He resolved that when he was, He 241 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,640 resolved that when he was going to get off the table, he was 242 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,160 going to make a break for it and where and wherever. 243 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:56,840 However, he thought that was going to work and he said he was 244 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,240 lifted up after this physical examination, which was 245 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,040 humiliating. Well, that tells you it must 246 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,260 have been sexual in nature. And that is about as strange as 247 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:11,780 these cattle mutilations. There is some level, some 248 00:15:12,660 --> 00:15:17,700 baseline level of evilness around these abduction stories, 249 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:20,300 just like there is around the cattle mutilation stories. 250 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:22,860 It's very odd. And he said he was lifted up 251 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:25,980 after this physical examination, which was, which was 252 00:15:26,140 --> 00:15:29,380 humiliating. So either it was some sort of 253 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:33,580 invasive procedure where he felt helpless, perhaps. 254 00:15:34,370 --> 00:15:36,170 And perhaps it was one of these things where they were 255 00:15:36,170 --> 00:15:40,410 extracting DNA from him. But he says it was humiliating. 256 00:15:40,690 --> 00:15:44,130 His feet went down to the floor. And he said, but I just stood 257 00:15:44,130 --> 00:15:44,810 there. I didn't move. 258 00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:47,370 I didn't do anything. I just couldn't do anything. 259 00:15:47,370 --> 00:15:50,290 And this little figure came along and these long Gray 260 00:15:50,290 --> 00:15:53,210 fingers reached out and took my wrist. 261 00:15:53,210 --> 00:15:55,850 And he said he just gently took me by the wrist. 262 00:15:56,130 --> 00:16:00,010 And I went with him and he said, you know, I was the giant in 263 00:16:00,010 --> 00:16:03,490 that room, but I was the baby. And it was so difficult for this 264 00:16:03,490 --> 00:16:06,290 man, with all his military training and his Irish 265 00:16:06,290 --> 00:16:09,450 background and his youth, to admit that he could be that 266 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:13,250 easily manipulated and moved. And if you think of that as an 267 00:16:13,250 --> 00:16:16,250 example of what might lie ahead for society, in a certain sense 268 00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:20,290 it's a pretty grim future. But you see, you see this 269 00:16:20,290 --> 00:16:28,530 dichotomy between the physical and the spiritual, or maybe the 270 00:16:28,530 --> 00:16:32,160 physical and the alternate reality, whatever. 271 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,280 These things aren't operating. I mean, they're operating above 272 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,240 a physical level. They're able to take this big 273 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,160 guy and completely dominate his free will. 274 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,760 That's what it seems like. Now, whether that's through some 275 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:48,560 kind of drug or mind control or whatever, it shows you the the 276 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,200 attitude. Not a healthy one in my opinion. 277 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Hopkins in another case. This is a Long Island case. 278 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,160 Hopkins, Hopkins in another case on Long Island. 279 00:16:58,770 --> 00:17:02,250 The woman who I have worked with had remembered walking up, had 280 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:03,690 remembered, excuse me, waking up. 281 00:17:04,010 --> 00:17:07,410 And there was a range of physical phenomena which she 282 00:17:07,410 --> 00:17:09,770 described. I think she was paralyzed. 283 00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:13,690 At one point her, her son in the morning had described these 284 00:17:13,690 --> 00:17:16,810 figures coming into the room. He was enormously terrified. 285 00:17:16,810 --> 00:17:19,290 The woman remembered walking downstairs in the middle of the 286 00:17:19,290 --> 00:17:22,290 night, and she doesn't remember coming back up. 287 00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:26,290 She found herself in bed. There was a lot of confusion. 288 00:17:26,290 --> 00:17:29,050 But in the middle of all of this, the neighbors called to 289 00:17:29,050 --> 00:17:32,650 say, what is that thing in your yard with all the lights on it? 290 00:17:33,130 --> 00:17:37,290 So you have witnesses who happen to look out the windows and see 291 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:39,530 the UFO on this person's property. 292 00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:44,490 Well, you have cases like this again and again and again, and 293 00:17:44,490 --> 00:17:52,210 either this happened the way the way it happened or again you 294 00:17:52,210 --> 00:17:55,050 have some kind of elaborate collective hoax, including 295 00:17:55,050 --> 00:17:57,450 people's children. There's no motive for this. 296 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,720 I think the evidence is just again and again totally 297 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:07,000 persuasive this these cases never blow up in your face and 298 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,120 suddenly oh we found out that so and so and we and they were a 299 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:15,640 crook and they were doing this or and that and it doesn't 300 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,520 happen. The material will stands all 301 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,120 kinds of scrutiny as a matter of fact and where you look at it 302 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:22,440 the more evidence comes together to support them. 303 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,640 Well, these things happen to the ordinary people. 304 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,000 You know, I was just talking to a a relative of mine a few weeks 305 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,400 ago, and he was recounting a story from an old fellow who's 306 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,680 deceased now about how they just got into talking about the 307 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,800 subject. Said the guy was just a really 308 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,240 kind of a roughneck, an old, an old outdoorsman, a tough guy. 309 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,840 And he described how a flying saucer with windows around the 310 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,980 edge had literally landed in the pasture or backyard outside his 311 00:18:55,980 --> 00:18:57,780 house. And he looked out and he could 312 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:00,220 see creatures walking around inside of it. 313 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:05,100 And you know, he said I asked him if they were green. 314 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,100 He said. I couldn't tell. 315 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:08,860 But I know what I saw. You can believe me or not, 316 00:19:08,860 --> 00:19:11,380 believe me now. These were the sort of things 317 00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:16,020 those kind of people don't go around talking about that stuff 318 00:19:16,020 --> 00:19:18,100 until maybe you really prod them into it. 319 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,000 And the kind of people that Bud Hopkins is describing here, for 320 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,200 the most part at least, don't seem to be the kind of people 321 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,120 that would just make up an alien abduction story, especially 322 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:31,640 about their kids. So it seems to me at least, that 323 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:37,160 these things are happening. I mean, a lot of us have either 324 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,800 seen UF O's, a lot of people have seen UF O's up close and 325 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,760 then some people have actually, I think have seen these 326 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,790 creatures, whatever they are, and a few unlucky people have 327 00:19:48,790 --> 00:19:51,670 been abducted. I think I would pass on that as 328 00:19:51,670 --> 00:19:54,430 long as I could. Now if you, I'm going to close 329 00:19:54,430 --> 00:19:57,830 off here, But if you go to the Twitter account, I did post that 330 00:19:57,830 --> 00:20:02,990 one article on the Manhattan Transfer, the gal that was 331 00:20:03,310 --> 00:20:06,870 abducted out of her 12th floor apartment in Manhattan. 332 00:20:07,150 --> 00:20:10,230 And you can go back and the podcast is probably because it's 333 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:12,950 an old one, probably a year or a year and a half ago. 334 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:14,790 And I think it was called Manhattan Transfer. 335 00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:15,990 And you can listen to that if you like. 336 00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:21,740 Bud Hopkins was a really, I found to be a sincere and 337 00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:26,260 genuine UFO investigator, and I think it's important to remember 338 00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:28,700 some of these old guys because they did a lot of groundwork for 339 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:32,540 us and they recorded a lot of stuff that happened and they 340 00:20:32,540 --> 00:20:36,820 left us with a lot of good data. Until next time, this is UFO 341 00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:37,980 Warning. Over and out.