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Hello and welcome to UFO. 
Warning this episode, we're 

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talking about UFO, abductions 
specifically, this one comes to 

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us from UFO in sight. 
The title of the article is the 

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copely woods, incident 
abduction, or Supernatural 

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events goes on and says the 
events of June 1983 are largely 

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regarded to be a case of alien 
abduction, but is one of those 

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encounters that stray slightly 
into the supernatural field and 

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Until an explanation is reached.
It is likely to be of interest 

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to both groups goes on. 
And says the incident was 

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investigated by several 
researchers perhaps most notably

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but Hopkins whose research would
result in the book Intruders 

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they're incredible visitation at
copeley Woods as his 

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investigation continued long 
after the book was available 

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more and more information became
available It would seem whatever

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was behind the events and the 
summer of 1983 in Indiana. 

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They were likely just one and a 
timeline of strange incidents 

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over several years. 
Before we look at this case, a 

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little more detail. 
Check out the video below. 

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It says, then it has video, you 
can watch on Budd Hopkins which 

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is quite interesting and highly 
recommend you. 

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Go to the website and take a 
look at it. 

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Where He's talking about UFO 
abductees, but then the article 

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continues, it says, at the time 
of the incident on the 30th of 

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June 1983, Debbie Jordan Kabul 
was living with her two, small 

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Sons at her parents home on this
particular evening at around 6, 

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p.m. after eating. 
What was left from a bucket of 

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takeout chicken, Debbie stood at
the kitchen sink, washing your 

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hands free from the groups of 
the food. 

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She was due at a neighbor's home
so she could not so she could 

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cut patterns out for a costume. 
And a service which was her 

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source of income. 
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her hands under the running 
water from the kitchen tap that 

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she first noticed the bizarre 
bright light. 

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It was coming from The Pump 
House of the swimming pool in 

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the backyard of even more 
concerned, to Debbie the pump 

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house was locked. 
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hours earlier, after replacing 
the chlorine tablets for the 

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pool water. 
She would ask her mother to look

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at the light, which she said it 
was strange, but nothing of 

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concerned. 
Besides she, besides she assured

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her. 
Her, she would lock the doors 

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after she set off to the 
neighbors. 

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Now, I just want to interject 
hurt. 

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Sometimes in these multiple 
sightings like this. 

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We do have strange reactions 
from other people. 

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You have the main character who 
is the abductee, sometimes, and 

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there were the experiencer and 
you have another person 

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involved, the two people can be 
looking at the same thing and 

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maybe not see the same thing. 
Or in this case, the mother sees

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this bright light emanating from
the pool house where there 

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shouldn't be a bridge. 
Bright light. 

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You know, obviously she should 
have been concerned but she has 

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just the opposite of reaction 
like oh don't worry about it. 

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It's almost like this 
helplessness or this Detachment 

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from the situation. 
And we see that sometimes in 

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these situations where there are
two or more people at the scene 

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and one of them is abducted but 
the other ones not one person 

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experiences, the entire 
abduction and the other person 

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even in the middle of it just 
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Register the facts. 
They seem detached from the 

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reality of what's going on 
around them and that's what I 

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sense is what that's what's 
happening right here. 

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It was on. 
It says, besides she assured her

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daughter she would lock the 
doors after she left for the 

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Neighbors. 
A lot of good that would do huh?

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Not entirely convinced they be 
set off anyway by the time she 

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approached her car a quick look 
toward towards the back of the 

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house revealed. 
The light was no longer there. 

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She quickly ran to the door to 
check to check it. 

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It was as if she had locked as 
if she had thought she'd locked.

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She went back to her vehicle and
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the neighbors upon arriving. 
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use the phone to check on her 
mother. 

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Once again, she assured Debbie, 
she was fine. 

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However, almost immediately 
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phone rang, it was her mother 
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Fright gripped. 
Her voice. 

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She wanted. 
Debbie to come home now. 

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Now. 
It says shortly after Debbie had

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left, her mother had left. 
Her mother had gone about 

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tidying, the kitchen that 
evening supper after she was 

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after she was doing. 
So she noticed a basketball 

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sized ball of light in the 
backyard. 

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It seemed to hover near the bird
feeder she had first thought 

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someone was playing with a 
flashlight. 

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However, as she watched the soft
light, it began to decrease in 

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size so much so it soon appeared
completely as soon Disappear 

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Completely. 
Then for reasons, she couldn't 

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explain. 
She had an uncontrollable urge 

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to contact her daughter to come 
home. 

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What to me? 
It's almost as if this I don't 

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know how you even call it was 
almost like she was under some 

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kind of thought control to begin
with. 

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She sees this light that her 
daughter is concerned about in 

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this back, building behind the 
house where there shouldn't be a

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light, she should have been 
concerned but she wasn't a 

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concern. 
In fact, she told her daughter, 

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just go on ahead, you'll be 
fine. 

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But then after a little while, 
she becomes concerned and calls 

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her daughter, it's almost as if 
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Is if this this cloud of not 
caring has just lifted off of 

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her, as if she was under some 
kind of mind control. 

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And now she's come out from 
under that control. 

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Those long as his given, the 
amount of time between Debbie, 

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calling her mother and then, and
then receiving the Penick phone 

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call, only moments later, the 
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home must have must have been 
only seconds in length. 

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Well, I'm probably a couple 
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apologize to the neighbors and 
promised to contact them. 

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When she knew what the problem 
was, when she arrived back at 

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her parents home, she entered 
the property and went straight 

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to where her father kept his 
gun. 

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Although there was no ammunition
in it, she reason with her 

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mother whoever's out there, 
doesn't know that here you go. 

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Again, you have people trying to
approach these very strange. 

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It's either extraterrestrial a 
paranormal event with a firearm,

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and I'm pretty sure that a 
firearm is not going to do any 

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good against Either a spaceship 
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And while we're talking about 
that, that's what just, that's 

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the one problem I have with the 
History Channel series on 

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Skinwalker Ranch. 
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around carrying a shotgun all 
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He's more likely to hurt himself
or somebody else there with that

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shotgun. 
Then he is to bring down a UFO 

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or take out a ticket. 
Take out a skinwalker. 

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I just think it's I think it's 
just silliness to even bring 

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that into the situation. 
In fact, if you were approached 

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by one of these Little things. 
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want to do is take a shot at it.
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from somewhere, so I'm guessing 
whatever that technology they 

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would have at their disposal but
make a simple shotgun or rifle 

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of ours look like a toothpick. 
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even more concern, perhaps even 
more concerned. 

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Her mother not only couldn't 
remember why she wanted her 

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daughter to return home. 
She couldn't even remember 

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calling her. 
Incidentally, her memory of the 

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call returned several weeks 
later that does sound like she's

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expend exposed to some sort of 
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she's really having problem 
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thought. 
Lisanna says, Debbie cautiously 

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walked outside and approached 
the pump house opening the door.

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She looked inside pointing the 
gun in front of her, so anyone 

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inside could see it. 
Clearly. 

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There was nobody there. 
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Garage, on her way to the 
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She could see the family dog who
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truck. 
It was extremely agitated and 

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making it obvious. 
It didn't wish to be approached.

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She stood leaving the dog alone 
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garage. 
She pushed open the door and 

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looked around quickly. 
It was completely empty. 

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And lifeless, however, she began
to feel a burning sensation all 

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over her body. 
She would write two decades 

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later. 
It was like I was covered in 

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acid that's almost like maybe 
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radiation. 
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urged, rushed, through her 
telling her to leave the 

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building, right? 
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before, she could do. 
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bright and electrifying her, her
hit her, squarely in the chest, 

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she would describe it. 
As if she were punched by a huge

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electric fist, which soon forced
a burning sensation all over her

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body. 
She believed she could feel 

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every molecule in my body 
vibrating and she says and was 

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paralyzed And those moments she 
believed she was dead although 

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it felt like minutes. 
Debbie believe the incident, 

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lasted only seconds slowly the 
vibrating and the burning 

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sensation subsided and movement 
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She couldn't have she didn't 
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though. 
Experiencing huge blind spots. 

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Do the brightness of the light. 
It was then an intense stabbing 

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burning pain, filled her ear and
with it came the words as if an 

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invisible entity was talking 
directly to her mind that it was

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unfortunate. 
She had to feel pain, this is 

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another one of these strain 
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These things take which leads me
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these things are just artificial
intelligence that it's almost as

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if they have no emotional 
intelligence and like we talked 

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about before, you know, it can 
be the key. 

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The smartest computer in the 
world but the human humankind 

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still has the greatest emotional
intelligence of any creature on 

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any creature or any entity on 
this planet. 

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That's the way God made us to 
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this comment that was 
unfortunate. 

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It was like the this thing has 
no empathy. 

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You can see it right here. 
It has no empathy. 

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It's just drawing up this word 
to somehow calm her a little 

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bit. 
Maybe the next thing she knew 

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she lay on the ground near the 
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She had no idea how much time 
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arrived there, and in front and 
above her around five feet in 

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the air Hubbard. 
A small ball of having a ball of

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light. 
It was basketball shaped, but 

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then morphed into an egg shape 
after several moments and 

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vanished from sight. 
And was then that another 

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ensuring egg-shaped light came 
into Focus around 10 feet, in 

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diameter near The Pump House of 
the pool even more bizarre. 

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She can see a humanoid 
Silhouettes in front of her. 

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She tried to count them six in 
total, they appear to line up 

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and slide into the oval-shaped 
light. 

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Vanishing into it. 
She wasn't sure if it was 

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perspective or not, but the 
figures appear to have larger 

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heads than their bodies 
dictated. 

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They should now and this This 
lady. 

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She also, if you watch the 
video, they recommend here. 

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She was one of the first to draw
these aliens that we now 

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describe as Grace, she was one 
of the very first people to do 

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that. 
The next thing she knew she 

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could hear someone say it's 
over. 

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There was nobody there, but her 
memories of the events came 

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flooding back. 
She suddenly thought about her 

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children, strangely, a voice 
spoke inside her head, assuring 

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her that they were, okay, then 
she arrived back at the main 

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house. 
She ran inside to find her 

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mother stood there, looking 
outward in a daze, only, then 

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Debbie called out to her. 
That she seemed instant seem to 

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empty. 
It was instantly snap out of the

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bizarre trance-like State and 
select, is it? 

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Her mother was hypnotized, 
really? 

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She decided to return to the 
neighbor's home thinking as 

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bizarre as an incident. 
Had been there would be an 

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explanation for it when she 
arrived. 

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She was missing for around 15 
minutes, her worried neighbor, 

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informed her, she had left their
home over two hours ago. 

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It wouldn't be the only incident
of missing time that evening 

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being of a similar age, Debbie 
Debbie exhausted and Confused. 

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Ask. 
If her neighbor, we used to go 

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for a swim at her parents pool. 
It was just after 8:00 p.m. and 

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still warm Debbie, would Debbie 
wood. 

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So the patterns in the morning 
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teenage daughter made their way 
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were making their way to the 
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However, the flashlights of 
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in the driveway, announcing his 
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suddenly 11:10 somehow they had 
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So here this poor lady has been 
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Obviously, and she's missing for
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neighbor's house, she fetches, 
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They walk over towards the pool.
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realize that they've been 
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not to say anything. 
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pool. 
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though. 
The young girl, let out a gasp. 

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A pain. 
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on something hot which had 
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All three of them were in the 
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The teenager claimed her entire 
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After all three began to feel an
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well as sore eyes and fuzzy 
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They decided to call night in 
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The following day though upon 
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The Debbie couldn't open her 
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They were so swollen upon seeing
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He would like him to injury to 
someone who had been welding 

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without a mask. 
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repeatedly in these abduction 
stories where people have burns 

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your injuries to their eyes that
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When they're exposed to this 
bright light, this should show 

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you the nature of whatever it 
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That's abducting these people. 
Whatever it is, is not some 

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happy Pie in the Sky. 
We're here. 

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Out Clan. 
It is some kind of entity that 

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that is without empathy. 
It says it goes on and says Upon

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seeing a doctor he would then 
like in the injury to someone 

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who had been welding without a 
mask special screams and liquid 

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drops would eventually decrease 
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several weeks for them to return
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However, Debbie would continue 
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light for the rest of her life. 
She would also experience sudden

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flare ups of Burning Sensations 
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Lost and the initial incidence 
was the eventual Discovery 

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around a week later of an eight 
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yard. 
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which ended in a perfect Arc 
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The grass was brown and dead 
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ground itself being gray and 
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As she stared at it and heard 
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That is where the UFO landed. 
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but flood back with even more 
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So that sounds like her mother 
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memories of this UFO. 
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know it's strange but to me it's
also believable believable 

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because it's a Common Thread 
that runs through these 

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abduction stories instantly. 
The circular mark would remain 

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there for several years. 
No grass would grow over this 

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mistress, this mysterious area 
and when it snowed the snow By 

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quickly melt away from this part
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One thing that did grow though 
was dandelions which Debbie 

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would stick, which was state 
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normal ones. 
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them. 
Pets wondering cats for even 

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birds with step on this. 
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land. 
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was in Kansas or Missouri where 
there was a UFO observed and it 

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was an eclipse grandparents and 
grandkids live there and it 

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left. 
A patch in the yard that seems 

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like there was something about 
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Debbie herself would suffer from
a wide range of health problems.

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In the Years, following the 
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rashes, headaches and problems 
with her teeth, too light to 

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life-threatening allergies. 
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would the family's dog who would
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months afterward that examined. 
The animal and said instead it 

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appeared as though it was 20 
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Wow, as word spread about 
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more and more paranormal and UFO
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family home. 
Several corroborating Witnesses 

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would come forward. 
Several of the neighbors. 

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For example, what state, what 
state do having seen strange 

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balls of light on the night in 
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inside of their homes, one 
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had Hundreds of strange balls 
away dancing and floating around

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the copely woods in the night of
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This is ought to because we know
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couple years we have lots of 
reports of these, orbs of light,

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sometimes white. 
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myself where they're at least on
one instant where they were 

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orange and the silly thing just 
was I don't know, hovering 

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around maybe 20 30 foot off the 
ground they just and just 

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drifted off. 
Like it was a balloon as it was 

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a nighttime, these Whether 
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natural phenomena, or in this 
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extraterrestrial paranormal. 
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But there definitely aren't have
been observed by people and some

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of them even filmed. 
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Night in 1983 and Indiana will 
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It says, was it a case of alien 
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And if so, was Debbie, the only 
abductee or might, we are might,

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there have been some kind of 
mass event. 

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Remember several neighbors. 
Would eventually report activity

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their homes that evening, 
perhaps? 

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Perhaps they had forgotten to 
such as this until David's 

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account released the previously 
suppressed memories. 

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And what of the hundreds of 
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another sign of mass abduction. 
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might that or might that the 
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Supernatural interdimensional 
encounter one which perhaps 

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distorted time instead of wiping
memories of it. 

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Well it's all possible very 
interesting article with go on 

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to saying there's more to the 
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You can, there is a YouTube 
video floating around out there.

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She actually believed that she 
had been impregnated by aliens 

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and experienced that she had and
and in her in her video with a 

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but Hopkins, she talks about the
fact that she had been abducted 

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multiple times from the time. 
She was a little kid. 

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Until he know, I suppose she was
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described how she believed the 
shoe was that pregnant by, I 

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think it was her fiance or 
husband and then She realized 

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that she wasn't pregnant and 
during one of the abductions, 

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she was actually shown many 
entity that that she was 

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informed was hurt her daughter 
which was half-human half-alien.

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I know that really gets out 
there a long ways but there is a

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lot of concern about why are the
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And it wouldn't be the first 
story that we've heard about 

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aliens trying to trying to 
create some type of hybrid 

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creature. 
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Aliens whether that's aliens or 
whether that's some other kind 

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of paranormal being, I don't 
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But you know, you can even go 
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Genesis 6 talks about the sons 
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there's a whole theory on that 
whether these were some sorts of

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Fallen Angels or some sorts of, 
you know, supernatural creatures

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that interbred with humans and 
what that all meant. 

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But this idea that humans have 
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not just found the Bible. 
I mean it's throughout a lot of 

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different belief systems and it 
comes in through these abductees

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accounts. 
So you have to ask yourself if 

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there isn't something to this. 
What I also find interesting 

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about this, with case of Debbie,
was she, she's one of these 

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lifelong abductees. 
She's one of these people that 

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they keep coming back for time 
and time again. 

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So, you wonder if it's something
peculiar about her DNA that 

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they're after, is she just 
seemed like she she is a 

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personality type, a physical 
type is what makes her special 

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that they want to keep coming 
back and abducting her And you 

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find that story a lot with these
people. 

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It seems like it seems more 
often than not, if you read and 

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abductees story, they've been 
abducted repeatedly that they've

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had that experience. 
And to me that would just be 

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terrorizing. 
But anyway, this is a story of 

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copeley woods and you can find 
it on UFO in site.com just to 

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just to great article until next
time. 

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This is UFO warning over and 
out. 

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And you find that story a lot 
with these people. 

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It seems like it seems more 
often than not, if you read and 

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abductees story, they've been 
abducted repeatedly that they've

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had that experience. 
And to me that would just be 

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terrorizing. 
But anyway, this is a story of 

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copeley woods and you can find 
it on UFO in site.com just to 

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just to great article until next
time. 

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This is UFO warning over and 
out.