1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,400 Hello and welcome to the program at UFO morning, today's topic. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,900 Bob Lazar, that's correct, we're talking about Bob Lazar. 3 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:15,000 Now, this is something, I haven't really gotten into too 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,800 much because I just didn't know what to think of this guy. 5 00:00:19,300 --> 00:00:22,800 No doubt about it though. He's a big part of UFO folklore, 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,700 and he goes back a long way. So, loving hating, believe him, 7 00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:30,100 don't believe him. You just can't get around. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Round, Bob, Lazar. And one podcast is not going to 9 00:00:33,408 --> 00:00:37,200 be enough to cover this guy. I mean, the Bob Lazar story is 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,900 very interesting, whether you believe it, whether you don't 11 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:43,500 believe it. I mean, it's it's there. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,300 So I just want to go over a couple articles that I think are 13 00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:49,100 relevant that kind of talk about where Bob is at today. 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,000 I want to go through these a little bit and then we'll come 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,900 back to the subject a little bit later. 16 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:56,200 I want to cover things like Element 115. 17 00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:58,900 His relationship with George Knapp and some of the earlier 18 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:00,900 days but right. Right now, I think it's 19 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:04,500 important to see where the Bob Lazar story is today. 20 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:14,100 And the first article comes from looks like, Just a rich ju St RI 21 00:01:14,100 --> 00:01:17,100 CH is the okay, just the richest that's silly. 22 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:21,100 All right, and the article title is, what happened to Bob, Lazar, 23 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:26,000 and where is he now and articles by the dhola Sue Ann, and it's 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,300 has a date here of June 18th 2020. 25 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:32,600 It starts off and it says and this is an updated article. 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,900 So that's why it might sound just a little bit dated. 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,100 It says, a recent storm Area, 51 trend on social media has 28 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:42,400 rekindled Old mainstream conversation about the existence 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,600 of aliens and UFOs. At the heart of that 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,600 conversation is Bob Lazar a man who once stunned American 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,900 citizens with claims that he worked in a secret site on alien 32 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:56,400 technology, his claims have been a subject of controversy 33 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:59,400 rejected by those who do not believe in the existence of 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,400 aliens and as proof by those who do, I just want to stop right 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,800 there. Now there are a lot of people 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,800 that do believe are at least some I've heard it come out over 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,200 the years I believe. And Freeman had something to say 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,600 on this and we can look at that later. 39 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:20,700 But not everybody who believes in e.t. or ID or NHS also 40 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:23,000 automatically believes and Bob, Lazar. 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,400 So if they're kind of simple simplifying terms, just a little 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,300 bit, it goes on and says His Resurgence in the news has left 43 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:33,900 observers wondering what happened to Bob Lazar after he 44 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:37,200 came out with his claims and this article, we answer that 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,700 question along with answers about what he has been up to and 46 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:43,400 where he is now. And then it says, what happened 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,000 to Bubbles are on a seemingly regular day in May. 1989, 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,600 history was made when the Lost biggest TV station, klas became 49 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,000 the first mainstream mainstream news, Outlet to link the 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,700 government military. Base area 51 with aliens. 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,200 It did so via an interview with Bob Lazar who appeared in the 52 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,100 first interview under the pseudonym. 53 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:15,900 Dennis, I think it's real important to give Credit to some 54 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:19,900 of these guys that did this early groundbreaking work and 55 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:23,300 this is here, we are going back, 31 years, and are talking about 56 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:25,200 this stuff. You know, before the internet 57 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,800 before it was even really socially acceptable to talk 58 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,300 about this stuff. It says to ufologists and fans 59 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:35,700 his interview, which he claimed in, which he claimed that he 60 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:37,700 worked for the US government on alien. 61 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:42,800 Aircraft at a subsidiary, at his subsidiary facility in Area 51 62 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:46,500 named S4. For became proof of what many 63 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:50,900 had spent decades looking for. I'll point out here too that 64 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:55,100 you've done podcast on the area 51 and specifically on S4 and I 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,900 can't remember the gentleman's name, but somebody had spotted 66 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:02,100 what they believed was the entrance level to this 67 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:06,200 underground base, S4 and pointed it out on. 68 00:04:07,900 --> 00:04:11,700 On the Google Maps. It says, according to job, 69 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:16,300 according to Bob, Lazar who conducted Subsequent interviews 70 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:19,200 with his real identity. He worked on the reverse 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,600 engineering of a flying saucer. Well, I can't think of the name 72 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,500 right now. George Knapp did the first 73 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:29,800 interviews here George Knapp. Of course, is a legendary UFO. 74 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,000 Investigative journalist, may not agree with them. 75 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,600 On every single thing that he comes up with, but his 76 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,500 credentials are impeachable in my opinion, and I believe 77 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:42,500 George. Knapp was the first guy to take 78 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:45,500 this public out of Kelly s. So, we have to get credit where 79 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:48,100 credit's due. According to Bob, Lazar who 80 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:50,100 conduct the subsequent interviews with his real 81 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:51,900 identity. He worked on the reverse 82 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:53,400 engineering. The Flying Saucer. 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,700 He said, the Sasha was fueled by a chemical element with atomic 84 00:04:57,700 --> 00:05:01,300 number 115. Later named Muscovy. 85 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:05,800 Mmm, he also claimed that while working at the secret facility, 86 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,500 he read of the Earth's ongoing relationship with aliens from 87 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:14,300 the binary star Zeta reticuli, which stretches back 10,000 88 00:05:14,300 --> 00:05:16,100 years. Here's his story. 89 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:20,100 Expect his story expectedly went under scrutiny and they were 90 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:24,300 considered a hoax. By a majority of Science of the 91 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:26,700 scientific Community. But what happened after he came 92 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:30,600 out with a claims a year after the interview was interviews, 93 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,400 were released a couple of important things happen in Bob, 94 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Lazar his life, he was arrested in 1994 aiding and embedding 95 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:40,000 aiding and abetting a prostitution ring. 96 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,100 The charges of the crime were later reduced to felony 97 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:48,900 pandering, for which he pled guilty, and was sentenced to 150 98 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:52,400 hours of community service, as part of his sentence, he He was 99 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,700 also instructed to stay away from brothels and undergo 100 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,500 Psychotherapy later in the year, he filed for bankruptcy. 101 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:02,200 Now, that's interesting because they believed he was living in 102 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:06,300 Nevada at the time. Of course, as I understand it, 103 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:09,900 prostitutions only legal in specified, areas of Nevada. 104 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:13,700 And this would seem like maybe somebody could get caught in a 105 00:06:13,708 --> 00:06:15,000 Honey Trap there. I don't know. 106 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,300 I'm not sure what Bob's statements on that are. 107 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:22,500 So I'm not going to speculate to those who believe his James a 108 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:26,500 wave of legal problems and the financial difficulty, he faced 109 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:30,900 after the interviews are believed to have been in been 110 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:33,500 engineering engineered. I think they're trying to say by 111 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:37,100 the government as part of the effort to discredit him and keep 112 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:40,700 him quiet. Bob, Lazar himself continues to 113 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,700 insist that. What happened to him was an 114 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:45,500 ordinary and he is still under government surveillance status 115 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:48,600 date. So far, the evidence of either 116 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,800 claim has not been found and if those incidents were truly 117 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,100 meant, It to keep Lazar quiet, they haven't been very effective 118 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:58,200 as baubles are continues to speak of them to this day. 119 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Now, the article continues here in a says, at the time, Bob 120 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Lazar was interviewed by klas documents showed that he worked 121 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,500 as a self-employed film processor. 122 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,200 Now, he owns and operates United nuclear scientific equipment and 123 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,400 supplies a company and and Laingsburg MI Michigan. 124 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Now this guy must be, you know, I mean I'm not going to get into 125 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,700 it in this podcast but I've heard less than complimentary 126 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:32,600 things. Bob lazarre's competence and 127 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,900 physics or mathematics. But he must be a pretty bright 128 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:38,400 guy. I mean, he seems like he's 129 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,400 attracted to technical fields. And of course, you know, this is 130 00:07:41,408 --> 00:07:44,400 like an 89. He's doing this photo developing 131 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,100 business which it must be some sort of specialized operation 132 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:52,000 because people aren't taking it to their local, you know, drug 133 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,300 stored had a pictures developed. They're taking them to Bob. 134 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Secondly, I mean was successful enough that he was supporting 135 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,600 himself. So he must have been making a 136 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,500 fair amount of money. And then he gets into this other 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,600 company. Now, I think this is still going 138 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:11,400 and we'll talk about this in the next article called new United 139 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,800 nuclear scientific equipment supplies were dealing with some 140 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,100 pretty highly specialized elements that sounds like and it 141 00:08:19,108 --> 00:08:22,700 sounds like, you know, you need some degree of scientific 142 00:08:22,700 --> 00:08:27,200 competence to deal with this stuff or you might end up really 143 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,800 enjoying yourself. Now, he says, some of the 144 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,600 company's products Radioactive ores non radioactive elements 145 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,400 radiation sensors and a variety of lab chemicals. 146 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:43,799 Since Bob, Lazar established the company, he has also faced 147 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,000 additional legal problems. He was charged in 2006 for 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,900 violating the hazard, the federal hazardous Substances Act 149 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:54,100 in 2007. He was also charged for the 150 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:57,600 illegal sales of chemicals and components used in the 151 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,400 manufacturing of illegal fireworks. 152 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,300 He pled guilty to both charges and mainstream media. 153 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:08,900 The story of Bob Lazar and and what supposedly happened to him 154 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:12,500 at Area. 51 has been made in To a feature-length documentary, 155 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,100 the documentary Bob, Lazar Area 51, and flying saucers was 156 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:20,000 released in 2019 on the streaming service Netflix. 157 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,900 Now, I haven't watched this yet because I really didn't have 158 00:09:22,900 --> 00:09:27,600 time to to do it before the podcast, and I wasn't real 159 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,600 worried about watching it before the podcast. 160 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,200 Because as soon as I started looking to baubles our story, I 161 00:09:34,208 --> 00:09:36,300 immediately realized that there was no way you're going to cover 162 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:38,700 this one podcast. I mean, you could probably do 20 163 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:42,200 podcast on this guy. But I will watch the Netflix 164 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,900 video and we can talk about this at a later date. 165 00:09:45,300 --> 00:09:48,500 Now, it says it was produced by George Knapp, the investigative 166 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:51,000 journalist who interviewed him and usually 1989. 167 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Yes, George Knapp is a legend in the UFO, investigative 168 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,600 Community. I mean, no doubt about it, just 169 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,100 like Stanton. Freedom Friedman was a legend 170 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,600 and the UFO investigated Community goes on assess, aside 171 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,100 from running his company and appearing and documentaries. 172 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:12,500 He also runs has an annual festival for pyrotechnic 173 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:15,200 enthusiast. He runs the festival which is 174 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,100 named desert blast with his friend, Jean Huff, the festival 175 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:23,400 features, homemade explosives rockets and other pirate 176 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,600 techniques. Pyrotechnics of this is strange. 177 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:31,900 I don't know. I mean, I don't know a lot about 178 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:37,000 the fireworks business and getting the permits to possess 179 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,300 all of that, that type of equipment. 180 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,900 And type of fireworks. But, you know, it seems like the 181 00:10:44,900 --> 00:10:48,200 government is trying to size. This guy up, is kind of a Kind 182 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,500 Of An Outlaw by throwing these charges at him. 183 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,300 But if he was that terrible, you makes you wonder. 184 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:55,200 I mean, if he did everything, the government says he did, how 185 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,800 on Earth would you ever be able to pass a background? 186 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,900 Check to even purchase the the ingredients to make fireworks 187 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,600 and right there. So, right there, I'm starting to 188 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,800 say, well, maybe maybe something happened that he felt like he 189 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,500 was forced to. Plead guilty to okay, because we 190 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:16,000 know that the federal government has, what, like a 97 percent 191 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,800 conviction rate. We saw this with General Flynn 192 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,000 and Roger Stone. So, yes, one of these things 193 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,800 where you have a little bit of doubt about the guys judgment, 194 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,000 but then at the same time, he has a business. 195 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,500 That requires a, what looks like it would be a pretty high degree 196 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,500 of sophistication in scientific competence. 197 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:35,800 So you're thinking well, how can the guy? 198 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,500 You know, just be some lunatic who's out there, claiming to 199 00:11:38,508 --> 00:11:44,700 have seen UFOs if he's able to run this business and if he is 200 00:11:44,700 --> 00:11:46,900 able to come up with a paperwork, a passive background 201 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:49,200 checks, do you put on a fireworks display? 202 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,500 I don't know. It's strange. 203 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,400 It says, he also appeared at the festival for ufologists UFO Fest 204 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,700 where he speaks about his claimed experience and other 205 00:11:56,700 --> 00:12:00,200 related subjects. So that's from that article. 206 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:03,000 Thought it was pretty decent article for a short, you know, 207 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,900 just a All right up. It got a lot of the facts in it. 208 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:08,600 Lets us know where Bob was our kind of comes into the UFO. 209 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,000 Folklore, this is back in 1980 knowing 89 with George Knapp, 210 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:15,100 will get into those details later but for now I just want 211 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:19,000 to, I just want to get a picture up there for us to see about 212 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,700 where is baubles are at right now. 213 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:23,300 You know a lot of these guys come along they can make 214 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:26,100 outlandish claims or they can make you know, really 215 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:29,700 over-the-top claims and then just they just disappear or 216 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,300 sometimes they end up, you know, when a bad hand and we've seen 217 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:33,600 that happen with some of these Close. 218 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,700 But Bob Lazar you know to his credit it seems like he made 219 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,200 these claims and see seems like he's been kind of is 220 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,800 self-employed guy doing business in a somewhat scientific 221 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:48,300 technically oriented business for all these years. 222 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,900 So it looks like he's been somewhat successful in life. 223 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:55,800 So you're thinking, well he's not just a lunatic, he's got 224 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,900 something else going on here. We got to get the guys, some 225 00:12:57,900 --> 00:12:59,900 credit. Now, the next article I found 226 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:04,400 was from vice.com and off the motherboard section and it says 227 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:06,900 this one eye. I think was from okay. 228 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,000 November 13, 2019. So this is not too long ago, and 229 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,700 before I continue, I have both these articles posted at the 230 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:18,300 Twitter account, UFO morning. You can get there by going to 231 00:13:18,300 --> 00:13:23,400 warning sub UFO or just go to UFO, warning at Twitter, be sure 232 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,100 and do a follow and I would just mention briefly the reason not 233 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,300 I'm doing that. I did a podcast because people 234 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:33,700 ask me to you for a while now, but also with the recent Senate 235 00:13:33,700 --> 00:13:37,700 committee on intelligence committee Any meetings with the 236 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:41,200 defense department, the Navy office intelligent, all the 237 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:48,200 revelations about a tip and the one after physicist, I'll think 238 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,400 of his a minute who came out and made the comment about not of 239 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,000 this world, Vehicles being being in the position of the defense 240 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 department. Well when you start talking 241 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,700 about not of this world Vehicles being in position of the defense 242 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:07,600 department or the Air Force or the You're whoever and most of 243 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,600 us who have been study, the UFO phenomena for very long think of 244 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,200 Bob Lazar pretty quickly because he was the guy who back in 1989, 245 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,900 claimed have been working on these things so he's ahead of 246 00:14:17,908 --> 00:14:22,100 the curve either. He's a very fortuitous liar or 247 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:24,100 something was going on there that Bob? 248 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:26,700 Maybe knew about now. I don't know if it's all true 249 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:29,000 but there's enough. That's true. 250 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,700 That's really interesting. I don't know, I just don't know. 251 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:38,800 Now, this title says, Bob Lazar, Says the FBI raided him to seize 252 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,800 area, 51's fuel, the truth is weirder, and he goes on, and 253 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,000 says new documents obtained by motherboard. 254 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,900 Show why the FBI raided the area 51 Insider scientific supply 255 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:52,400 company as articles by Tim McMillan. 256 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:54,600 This is the company. I believe that was lovely 257 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,000 located up there in Michigan where Bob is selling these 258 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,900 different types of elements. And it seems like some of the 259 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:04,500 stuff's radioactive, okay, so the article starts on May 24th, 260 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:06,700 1989. Any live interview with 261 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:09,700 investigative reporter George Knapp on klas. 262 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:12,900 Las Vegas. Robert Bob Lazar took the first 263 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:15,500 steps toward becoming one of the most influential and 264 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:18,100 controversial figures and all of UFO. 265 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:21,900 Lore concealing his identity and using the pseudonym. 266 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Dennis Lazar said that deep within a nun, confirm section of 267 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Area. 51 called, S4. He'd once worked on recovered, 268 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,300 extraterrestrial spacecraft for the u.s. government months 269 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:36,300 later. No longer You're concealing his 270 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:39,400 identity, Lazar claimed the US government must now waging an 271 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,500 all-out covid, quote covert war against him. 272 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:47,300 He said it shot out one of his tires and erased all his 273 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:52,600 educational records from Caltech and MIT Lazar eventually claimed 274 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,700 that while at Area 51 his job was to reserve was to reverse 275 00:15:56,700 --> 00:16:00,700 engineer and alien material called Element 115. 276 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:04,100 That he claimed was used to power an alien spacecraft. 277 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:08,400 Lazaro, Was repeatedly result. Excuse me. 278 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Rizal has repeatedly hinted that he took a piece of element 115 279 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,400 from Area 51. And that this element as a is of 280 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,100 great interest to the federal government while now, that's a 281 00:16:20,108 --> 00:16:22,800 lot of information. And we hear this a lot from some 282 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,900 of these guys that come forward, that they feel like they've been 283 00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:28,600 targeted by the government or the Deep state after they come 284 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,100 forward. And you don't know. 285 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 I mean some people say why wouldn't they just eliminate the 286 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,700 guy? Well, maybe it's twofold, maybe 287 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:40,500 it's just easier for the government to let these people 288 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:44,200 discredit themselves and have people write him off as a crazy. 289 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:49,000 And also maybe it's kind of like it's kind of like opening the 290 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,700 lid of the teapot a little bit. You know, this curiosity and 291 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:54,600 this demand and drive for disclosure. 292 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,600 I think sometimes reaches a boiling point and that's when 293 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,000 these deep State actors. Kind of maybe are compelled to 294 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:04,400 hit the release valve a little bit. 295 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:08,300 Let the tea kettle whistle, and maybe that's what Bob's role was 296 00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:10,400 was, too. Hey, just let this guy go out 297 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,300 here and say what he wants. There's nothing that he can do 298 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:17,300 to hurt us, we can write him off as a crazy, and we can let the 299 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:19,900 crazies be calm down. I think that's her. 300 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:23,800 Attitude was some of these guys, I don't know that goes on here 301 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,700 and says in the years after his initial appearance, Lazar 302 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,500 largely returned to private life, he eventually Opened a 303 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:33,400 business called United nuclear scientific. 304 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:36,100 A scientific supplies and equipment store based in New 305 00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:40,300 Mexico and then Michigan. Earlier this month, the company 306 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:45,000 announced its moving to Oregon from radioactive or to ammonia. 307 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,300 Nitrate a quick check levels are scientific supply companies 308 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:52,400 website reveals, the business caters toward the Exotic and 309 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,600 potentially dangerous side of science. 310 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,700 A whimsically strange, levien GIF on the site's homepage says 311 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,500 Looking for some uranium click here. 312 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,300 Wow, that does kind of set a couple of alarm bills off at the 313 00:18:08,308 --> 00:18:11,700 guy claims to be selling uranium and starting to think. 314 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:14,700 Well you know what's this dude? All about it goes on and says 315 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:18,700 but now 30 years after initially talking to Area 51 those are a 316 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:23,600 United nuclear scientific have become part of a new and unusual 317 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,100 situation that conspiracy theorists claim is tied to 318 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:28,700 Element 115. It's worth noting. 319 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:32,200 That lazarre's 115 is not Muscovy inand element. 320 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,900 That was first synthesized in 2003 and added to the periodic 321 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:42,200 table in 2015. Hmm, that's strange, right? 322 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:44,000 Right. In the middle of the production 323 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 of a documentary about lazarre's life United nuclear scientific 324 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:52,100 was raided by the FBI by the FBI and local police Lazar. 325 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:54,900 And his followers have found this to be very suspicious and 326 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:59,100 have theorized that the FBI was attempting to recover samples of 327 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,700 element 115. Teen that Lazar took from Area 328 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:05,000 51 conspiracy. Theorists suggest that Lazar was 329 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,100 under government surveillance and that this is the latest in a 330 00:19:08,108 --> 00:19:14,300 decade-long harassment campaign against Lazar by the feds Well, 331 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:17,400 it seems like we're all under surveillance, you know, I at one 332 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,800 level or another and if you're selling uranium, I'm guessing 333 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,400 that you are going to be under some sort of surveillance. 334 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 I'm not sure that I'm not okay with that. 335 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,300 I mean, its uranium for crying out loud. 336 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:32,800 We go on here, says, what actually happened on that rate 337 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,500 uncovered in documents obtained by motherboard using public 338 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:37,400 information. Request doesn't seem to have 339 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,000 anything to do with element 115, but the real story is almost as 340 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,100 bizarre, well, as our was seemingly Content spending 341 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,100 decades as a small business owner. 342 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:50,000 The police raid wasn't the only thing that brought Lazar back 343 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,200 into the Limelight and late, 2018. 344 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,600 He was a subject of a documentary made by filmmaker 345 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:59,700 Jeremy Kenyan wachtler Korbel called Bob Lazar Area, 51, and 346 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:02,000 flying saucers a self-proclaimed. 347 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,600 It Protege of George Knapp. Corbel said, it took 348 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,500 considerable convincing on his part to get Lazard to return to 349 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:12,000 the public eye Korbel. I want to stop right there, you 350 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,300 know, it does speak. A little bit to lazarre's credit 351 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:19,700 that he went a long time without talking about this. 352 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:22,300 So it wasn't like he was profiting off it or at least not 353 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:25,100 that I can see. So it doesn't seem like he was 354 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:29,000 seeking celebrity status or seeking to make his experience 355 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,100 at Area. 51, his full-time job. Got to give the guy credit. 356 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:35,300 He went out there and started his own business. 357 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:37,600 Even at that business was plagued with some problems. 358 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:45,100 Now, what goes on here and we say, Lazar, excuse me Korbel who 359 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:48,000 also stars in the film has made a name for himself and the 360 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,800 Paranormal genre, people silly reason the documentary hunt for 361 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,300 the skinwalker and patient 17 under the title. 362 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:57,700 Since a, he also sold instructional videos for MMA 363 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:00,000 style that involves board Street in our okay. 364 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Listen, if you haven't seen patient 17, you need to watch 365 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,900 it. I think it's on Netflix till 366 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,500 it's and I talked about it in one of the podcast. 367 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:11,000 It's pretty good movie. I think one of the top 10 as far 368 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,200 as UFO maybes, go. It involves that doctor, but I 369 00:21:14,208 --> 00:21:15,900 believe those Norman Lear passed away. 370 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,600 He was the guy that was taken up to taking these implants out of 371 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,400 people. And man, if you're on the fence 372 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,800 believing, whether or not implants are real, this won't 373 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,500 just knock you off. The fence, it'll put you in the 374 00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:31,500 middle pasture. It's, it's something else, it's 375 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:34,200 a little spooky, okay? I'll just say that you have to 376 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,600 watch that movie. It's amazing. 377 00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:39,400 Okay, so it's the Bob Lazar, excuse me, the bubbles are 378 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,200 terrific. You want to find Sausage largely 379 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,100 contemporary retelling, those devil has ours original story. 380 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:48,100 The police raid on United nuclear, scientific is Central 381 00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:49,900 to the film in the beginning though. 382 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,200 What's of a documentary viewers from corbel huddled into a neon 383 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,000 lit bathroom fretfully poring. Over a series of text messages 384 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 saying, Lazar is currently being raided by the feds. 385 00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:03,000 And in suing seen a packer producer of the film says, I had 386 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,800 a feeling something, like this might happen. 387 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,900 The climax of the film, lays out what they think the rate is 388 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:10,100 really about an attempt to recover. 389 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:13,600 The supposed alien energy source alien 115. 390 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:17,600 Well, listen, if there's such a thing on this planet is 115, 391 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,400 where you can power spaceships with it. 392 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,900 I'm not sure. Bob should have it. 393 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:25,800 I'm not sure that to the academy of stars, and Tom DeLonge should 394 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,200 have it. I really don't think any 395 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,800 individual should have it because that's basically, having 396 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,000 a mini atomic bomb in your hand. If you have that much power 397 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,200 under your control, something like that should probably be 398 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,700 locked in an underground base somewhere like Area, 51. 399 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,800 Okay. Just for the Peace of Mind. 400 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:49,800 Everybody just saying it goes on and says, no evidence of the 401 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,700 Distance of a blazar, zealot 115 has ever surpassed. 402 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:55,700 However, according to Lazar, this alien artifact is a highly 403 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:59,000 radioactive element that allows alien spacecraft you Traverse 404 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,200 the cosmos impervious to Earth's effects. 405 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:07,600 If it's highly radioactive than the FBI should have no problem 406 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,300 finding it because they definitely have equipment to 407 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:14,500 find radioactive stuff. You can simply do a Google 408 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:19,000 search of a people who have been taking their pets home along 409 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,300 tollways. And that pet happened to have 410 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,200 had an x-ray at the vet's office and it set off a radiation 411 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,100 detector and they got a visit from the federal government 412 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:31,200 wanting to know where the bomb was or the nuclear waste was or 413 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,100 whatever this stuff is tracked. Okay? 414 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:38,200 And because it's radioactive and it sends off a pretty, I think 415 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:42,200 pretty little signal. They are capable of finding it. 416 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,500 So I'm a little skeptical that Bob would actually be have 417 00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:48,800 anything in this position. It was highly radioactive, I 418 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,500 don't know, maybe he's got it hidden inside a little and safe 419 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:57,900 but there again, I am not comfortable with having private 420 00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:02,000 individuals having an interpretation highly 421 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 radioactive material that's solely under their control. 422 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,500 Now it says it's a super-heavy element Lazaro wants to Larry 423 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:10,900 King. It's a unique element when it's 424 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:13,200 exposed to radiation. It produces its own 425 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,400 gravitational field will. It's if it's already a 426 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,400 radioactive I don't know why you would have to expose it to more 427 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000 radiation. Ocean but it says its own grab 428 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,500 it and its own. Anti gravitational field and 429 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:29,300 it's what it's what you used to lift and Propel. 430 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:33,500 The craft conspiracy theorist and Lazar himself have suggested 431 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:38,000 that Lazar stole a piece of element 115 from Area 51 and 432 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,500 that he has it to this day, the only presently known form of 433 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:46,500 moscovia has a half-life of of point six five seconds. 434 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:48,900 And what does have decayed very quickly? 435 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,700 Nevertheless, the thinking is that the government wants it 436 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:54,800 back, which is why law enforcement, Iseman traited 437 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,700 lazarre's business. Since corbels documentary was 438 00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:00,500 released late last year, Lazar supporters have become more 439 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:03,400 militant about the accusation that the FBI and properly rated 440 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,500 United new nuclear to recover elements of 115. 441 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,400 Listen, if you've stolen something top secret from the 442 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:16,200 government, they absolutely have the right to come back and 443 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,000 retrieve. What it is that you stole, okay? 444 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:24,000 And they will probably retrieve you as well. 445 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:27,400 Well, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. 446 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Now, we, you can just Google moon, rocks, recovered, and you 447 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,300 will find out that back in know what 67, he's whatever multiple 448 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:38,600 little moon rocks were given away, okay? 449 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,100 By supervisors, when they weren't supposed to, and the 450 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:44,200 Army is still going around, collecting those rocks today, 451 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:46,900 and they will come to your house and collect them. 452 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,600 And they may collect you. So the government is very 453 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:55,300 possessive about, it's tough. Okay, let's just put it that way 454 00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:58,800 and they don't seem to have a lot of trouble finding their 455 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,400 stuff when they really want to. So I'm a little skeptical that 456 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,300 Bob has this stuff hidden anywhere at home. 457 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:09,700 I mean my guess is that if they thought for about a second that 458 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:13,300 he did have something this valuable he would be a cellmate 459 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:16,800 next to Julian Assange underground somewhere and people 460 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,100 would be saying I'm Babu. So this part is a little, this 461 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,600 is where you kind of lose me a little bit. 462 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,800 But let's continue. It says why did the FBI raid? 463 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,200 The home of the biggest alien truther, according to months 464 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,900 worth of incident reports obtained by motherboard. 465 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:35,200 The 2016 raid on the united nuclear-armed, united nuclear 466 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,900 was part of an ongoing and extensive murder investigation 467 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:40,800 that includes State local and federal authorities. 468 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,800 The documents make no mention of element 115. 469 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 According to reports, written by Michigan State, Police Sergeant 470 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,400 detective, Thomas, rajala the events leading up to the search 471 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,900 of United nuclear. In late 2015, with the 472 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:58,100 mysterious death of 31 year old Journal. 473 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:02,300 Streusel Rolla says, doctors concluded. 474 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:05,000 Streusel was poisoned and died of thallium. 475 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,900 Toxicity, colorless odorless and tasteless. 476 00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:13,000 Volume sulfate has been described as the poisoners 477 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,200 poison due to the substance High toxicity. 478 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,500 And difficulty to detect volume is most often used in the 479 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:24,400 manufacture of electronics as Well, as in glass manufacturing 480 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,600 and any pharmaceutical industry, when isolated it looks like 10 481 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:32,100 volume is a regular topic of conversation among elements 482 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,400 collectors. We try to obtain samples of his 483 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,400 many elements in the periodic, table is possible. 484 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,600 According to the Michigan, police reports and United 485 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,500 nuclear scientific website, lazarre's Company, sell 486 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:48,600 Stallion, and a police. Search was intended to learn 487 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,400 more about who can solder material. 488 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,500 To Lazar has not specifically listed as a suspect in the 489 00:27:54,500 --> 00:28:01,200 murder and the police documents. According to the report Lazar 490 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:06,600 sometime in March 2017, a woman provided him with her deceased 491 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,300 Brothers element collection. which was our agreed to sell 492 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:16,200 through his website, according to the report and Lazar Valium 493 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:22,200 was indeed one of the elements and this collection, Volume is 494 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,700 something we never carry before and was just recently, no 495 00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:29,000 donated to us by the family of an element collector that died. 496 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,600 So, we now have a collection of some unusual materials. 497 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,000 We've never had before, Lazar said, in an interview because 498 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,400 the case Is still active investigation, still active 499 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,100 investigation, some names and details are redacted from the 500 00:28:43,108 --> 00:28:45,900 reports. MSP reports suggest that people 501 00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:48,700 that police believe, one of their suspects May have 502 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:50,900 purchased materials used in struggles. 503 00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:54,000 Murder from those are the documents note that the 504 00:28:54,008 --> 00:28:57,200 investigators obtained, search warrants for a suspects, Google 505 00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:00,400 Yahoo and Bing search results and seized computers and other 506 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,700 data from a suspect shortly after. 507 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,100 Obtaining information about those internet, searches 508 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,500 investigators decided, they wanted to question them. 509 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,400 Azhar the MSP report indicates that local and State Police. 510 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,800 Travel to several areas in Michigan to conduct interviews. 511 00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:20,900 During the same time frame, it's noted efforts will be made in 512 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:24,300 contact will meet made to contact Bob Lazar and person 513 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:27,500 regarding any thallium cells, specifically to an unnamed 514 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:31,000 individual rajala goes on to say, in his report that a police 515 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,600 officer had recently. Discovered United nuclear 516 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,900 advertisers thallium, a check of the business's website shows, 517 00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:44,200 indeed, United nuclear cells. Custom-made safety, safety 518 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,100 celled, epoxy disc of thallium, according to the site's 519 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:51,800 description, the Valium disc United nuclear offers do not 520 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,900 require any sort of special handling or storage, and they 521 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:58,400 may be discarded with normal trash no longer needed. 522 00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:02,100 Wow, a local police report released to me in April by the 523 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,300 Lynchburg, Michigan Police Department of this is your 524 00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:06,700 office speaking. First hinted, there might be 525 00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:09,300 more to the story than up, substantially any theft of 526 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:11,700 unproven of an unproven daily An element. 527 00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:14,500 The first report was sparse on details but noted this 528 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:18,000 investigation started and how often Michigan in regard to a 529 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,700 homicide investigation and may Corps built old British, I'll 530 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:24,100 Express. We believe the official intent 531 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:27,300 of the raid was a cover story and that they were looking for a 532 00:30:27,308 --> 00:30:31,500 piece of fuel source for the Extraterrestrial craft Lazar 533 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,300 once worked on for the United States government at Area, 51, 534 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Lazar and Korbel, have publicly said lazarre's company was rated 535 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,200 as part of a sustained survey. It's campaign against that man. 536 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,800 He's been called a reluctant UFO Messiah and the documentary 537 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,700 Wells are and Korbel. Discreetly discussed the 538 00:30:49,708 --> 00:30:52,800 possibility of lazara. Have you taken a piece of the 539 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600 mysterious element that police searched for the United? 540 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,500 Nuclear came, the very next morning after this 541 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,500 cloak-and-dagger discussion, according to Lazar, and corbel, 542 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,100 and an interview with Larry King, corbel and Lazar claimed 543 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,900 during the search that FBI agents were able to repeat back. 544 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:14,100 Back verbatim in a portion of their previous day's private 545 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:18,300 conversation at the annual UFO Festival in McMinnville Oregon. 546 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Those are told a crowd that the FBI had played an audio 547 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,800 recording of he ain't corbels Element 115 discussion. 548 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,100 According to the MSP reports. Police had already obtained 549 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,600 search warrants a day prior to accrue bail and lazarre's 550 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,100 conversation. When I spoke with lazara, he 551 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,900 told me, he didn't believe everyone involved in the raid 552 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:40,100 was aware of the work on the alien spacecraft. 553 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,700 We're element 15, thus? According to the author. 554 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,500 However, Lazaro was explicit in saying at least two mysterious 555 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:50,000 individuals at the raid, were absolutely concerned with his 556 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,300 past, and new of he and corbels conversations. 557 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:56,700 They asked to go upstairs with me and commented on the location 558 00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,800 of 115. And Jeremy said, and Jeremy 559 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,200 said, Lazar in the interview Those are any supporters have 560 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,300 been steadfast and saying it was the FBI who spearheaded the 561 00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:11,900 church the search of United nuclear indeed, the MSP reports 562 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,300 confirmed. The FBI was present and involved 563 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:18,300 in the search and the article continues on a full wall of this 564 00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:20,200 kind of discussing this, and you can finish reading it. 565 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:26,100 But And just kind of wraps up with there and it looks like 566 00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:29,200 those are you know he could he cooperated with the law 567 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,100 enforcement, he wasn't trying to hide anything. 568 00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:34,200 I didn't have a warrant for element 115. 569 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,300 They had a warrant for his records apparently of whatever 570 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:40,200 he sold or bought and he gave them access to computers 571 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,500 computer so it doesn't it doesn't make him look like he's 572 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:45,800 criminal just makes him look like hey maybe somebody bought 573 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,000 something from him, that was toxic. 574 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,300 And then use that toxic substance to commit murder. 575 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Now, I have not come up with any updates. 576 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:55,700 It's from this criminal this criminal investigation in 577 00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:58,700 Michigan, but you can kind of get an idea here. 578 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:05,500 Bob Lazar apparently, he's a pretty pretty, pretty smart guy, 579 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,300 maybe even a little bit of a cagey guy. 580 00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:13,800 He's, he's engaged in some what appear to be perfectly legal 581 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,300 businesses, although he has had Federal problems with the 582 00:33:19,308 --> 00:33:22,800 government's far as like what the fireworks issues with the 583 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,000 stuff at leaders in the with Indiana with the sex worker 584 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,000 issues, but that doesn't make him a murderer. 585 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,200 That doesn't make him a fraud. I just makes him a guy who 586 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:35,900 either maybe has Indulgence and things that he shouldn't have, 587 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:39,900 or possibly as he claims. He was falsely accused as what, 588 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:44,500 he seems to be a lady to any simply plead guilty to avoid to 589 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:48,700 avoid the 97, 99 percent conviction rate that Goes along 590 00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,400 with these kind of charges. I don't know. 591 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,100 The very fact that he's involved in these French businesses 592 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:57,500 though and then he still is suggesting or implying that he 593 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:01,800 could have this element. 115 is very interesting to me because I 594 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,100 don't know why you would do that if you had it. 595 00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,500 Why would you put yourself at risk? 596 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:09,300 He's saying that he stole it or implying that he stole it and 597 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,300 this is something that number one. 598 00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:13,100 I would never do. And number two, I guess, if I 599 00:34:13,108 --> 00:34:14,699 was the kind of person that would do it, I don't think 600 00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:16,900 whatever one admit to it. It's to me it would just 601 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:18,199 jeopardize your life and freedom. 602 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,100 However, you look at it, Bob Lazar is a very interesting 603 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,300 person. I think I might have been a 604 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,000 little quick to disregard his story at first, the more I get 605 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800 into this guy and when I find nuggets and it seems like the 606 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,400 more you learn, the more questions you have. 607 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:34,500 And I have made up my mind yet in this fellow. 608 00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:37,199 I think, when you talk about him a little bit more because I 609 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,600 think he deserves the attention that that he gets quite frankly. 610 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,199 Until next time, this is UFO warning over and out.