1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,160 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,520 In this episode we're talking about Grush outs Dick Cheney. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,280 That's correct, Grush outs Dick Cheney. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Of course, we're talking about the one and only David Grush, 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,880 possibly the most famous UFO whistle blower ever. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,160 It's come out in a recent YouTube post that David Grush 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,600 views Dick Cheney is the head, the head entity at the top of 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,200 this pyramid of UFO knowledge. Really strange stuff. 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,600 Now, this post has been reposted by a bunch of people. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,480 The one that I found on was UAP James and I reposted it myself 11 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:45,040 on Twitter. You can go and take a look at 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:51,880 it, but there's been about a one minute video released where this 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,760 author, Walter Kern has come out and revealed that David Gresh 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,880 has told him that Dick Cheney was at the top of the Need to 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Know chain. And we'll listen to this right 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,840 here with a little comment from Ross Coltart at the at the end 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,720 of this one minute conversation. I talked to a high level UFO 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:21,080 whistleblower last year and I said to him, who among all the 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,680 people in society is keeping this secret? 20 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Who sits atop the pyramid of classified information about 21 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,080 UFOs? And I thought he was going to 22 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,200 say something strange like the Grand Mason of the, you know, 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,960 Scottish Rite Lodge or Prince Charles or the Mossad. 24 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,840 But he said Dick Cheney. I can tell you is that these are 25 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,760 people whom I know are directly involved as legacy programme 26 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,040 gatekeepers. One of them sat on the National 27 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Security Council with Dick Cheney in his White House years. 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,960 It's very, very interesting to see the people who are now being 29 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,920 revealed to me as the people involved in frankly, this cover 30 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,280 up. And yes, they are going to be 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,720 named, they are going to be revealed. 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,520 There is going to be an unveiling of who these people 33 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:19,200 are in my own good time. Now to me, that's a real 34 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,360 bombshell. I guess. 35 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,080 I thought Dick Cheney was kind of out of the loop by now. 36 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,480 He's gotten to be quite old, but according to Grush, he's still 37 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,120 alive and active with this whole UFO thing. 38 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,000 To some people, Dick Cheney might just be another 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,000 politician. To others, he could actually be 40 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,080 the face of the deep state. I know back during the whole 41 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Iran thing, Iraq thing, he was kind of known as Darth Vader, 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,960 really kind of a tough guy. Even though I do believe that he 43 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,840 avoided service in Vietnam. He was known for his aggressive 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,320 stance on going to war with Iraq and all that we don't have to 45 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,120 get into but So I did a little investigative work about this 46 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Walter Kim guy. Interestingly enough, he did an 47 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,760 interview back in September with David Grush, September of last 48 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:20,360 year, so 2023. And I put a link to the paper 49 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,480 that came off of this is called Country Highway. 50 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,200 It's a paper. It says America's only paper, 51 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Volume 1, Issue 2, September, October 2023. 52 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,800 So it must be some sort of some sort of AI don't know locally 53 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,640 made paper. It's got a just kind of a bunch 54 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,680 of it's kind of got like a neat little, you know, illustration 55 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,680 across the top. But the article with Grush that 56 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,800 says the Republic of occluded facts chapter exclusive 57 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,200 interview with UFO whistleblower David Grush reveals black 58 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:02,160 projects saps NHIS, our top Hollywood executives, Aliens by 59 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Walter Kern. So that's the guys name who's 60 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,080 kind of broke this 1 unsettling way to spend a weed in our 61 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Republic of occluded facts is to drive to a small mountain town 62 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,920 in Colorado, ditch your phone because it gets no signal and 63 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,280 it's a spying device in any case, and speak for hours after 64 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:26,280 trippy hour about aliens, their weird craft with a man who 65 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:28,400 purports to know something of their history. 66 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,160 A history he says our leaders lie about out of fear, arrogance 67 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,800 and greed. OK, First off, it does seem to 68 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,600 be a little bit, I don't know, over the top there. 69 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:40,720 As far as your cell phones being spying devices, well, they 70 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 certainly are spying on you to market your stuff. 71 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,960 David Grush, aged 36, is a former intelligence agents, Air 72 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Force officer and briefer of precedence on spooky matters, 73 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:57,560 many related to satellites and space, now known only to our 74 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,400 military elite. He's 6 foot six. 75 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,480 Wow. He's a big dude. 76 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Pylon of a guy with close cropped hair and an open 77 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,480 unshaven face that goes pink in the sun but doesn't quite tan. 78 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,040 I met him on a warm Alpine morning in a hotel parking lot, 79 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:18,040 the very definition of our neutral ground, standing beside 80 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,200 his spotless new Ford truck, which he plans to trade in soon 81 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,760 because that's how he is, a car guy who buys one rig then covets 82 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,400 another with custom high performance modifications. 83 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,840 We venture some small talk and size each other up. 84 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,040 An art in which crush in Afghan war vet seems well practiced. 85 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 When my hands move, his eyes move. 86 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,720 He has a he has a planted way of standing that seems like it 87 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,320 might provide the basis for a solid karate kick. 88 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,200 I agree. In the parking lot to conceal 89 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,840 the name of Gresham's hometown, though, he's lately become a 90 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,800 public figure, the UFO whistle blower testifying in front of 91 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Congress about the nation's alleged actual secrets and 92 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,160 appearing on podcast and cable TV shows. 93 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,200 He likes his privacy, he says. He's been through a lot. 94 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Intimidation tactics, warnings, threats. 95 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,400 I can still carry, he told me. Soon after we met, he lifted the 96 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,200 hem of his worn red T-shirt and showed me a black 9mm sidearm 97 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,320 tucked outlaw style into the waistband of his hiking shorts. 98 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Gresh's troubles and his strange path to national celebrity began 99 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,400 several years ago with an assignment from a superior in 100 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,840 the Intel world to poke around inside the government and try to 101 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:33,280 learn whatever there was to learn about so-called non human 102 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:37,720 intelligence Nhis in the incredible vessels they thought 103 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,120 to pilot. Gresh was thorough wary of being 104 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,200 misled. The investigation took four 105 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,000 years. Now what's that say about our 106 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,560 government? If the if an Intel officer's 107 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,280 being assigned to poke around for four years to try to find a 108 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,520 UFO stuff, what's it say in the Bible? 109 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,720 A house divided against itself cannot stand. 110 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,160 It looks like our own government's divided against 111 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,800 itself. And who's the deep state? 112 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Are they the people employing Grush, telling him to poke 113 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,920 around in the government and find out where the UFOs are at? 114 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Where the alien bodies are buried? 115 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Or is it the people that are hiding this information from 116 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 him? I mean, you poke your head down 117 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 and you're immediately in the rabbit hole, he says. 118 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,400 I already had a map because of the stuff I'd done in my career. 119 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,320 I knew where the skeletons were and what doors to knock on. 120 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,400 You bump into one thing, I think you found it, but it's only one 121 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,160 slice. I would see one facet of the 122 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,640 prism, but I wasn't able to look down on all the vertices. 123 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,160 There was a lot of deception, a lot of lies and some reverse 124 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,000 interrogation. In the end, Grush Comply 125 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,520 compiled 40 interviews, some from people he'd worked with in 126 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,160 the past but but hadn't suspected held pieces of the 127 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,520 puzzle. The essence of what he says he 128 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,720 found is that the aliens are here. 129 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,520 They've been here for a while. He's cagey about how long? 130 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,440 And we have several other ships, which we keep stashed away in 131 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,360 secret hangers whose locations he claims to know. 132 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,040 We also. That's pretty dangerous to have 133 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,640 that knowledge, I think. We also have biologics, meaning 134 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,120 bodies whose characteristics Grush isn't free to specify, 135 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,680 though he hints that these come in different shapes and sizes. 136 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Finally, he learned that these beings may not be friendly, 137 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,880 indifferent to us at best, he says. 138 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,840 He also suggests that they belong to groups or species 139 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,240 which may in some cases dislike each other. 140 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,039 Grush predicts that much more will be revealed soon. 141 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:38,280 Within a year. Of course. 142 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,400 It's been a year, he hopes. But such forecasts are common on 143 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,960 the UFO scene. It's not just aliens who 144 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,040 supposedly warp time. It's the humans who discuss 145 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,120 them. But the process may be speeding 146 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,560 up. Grush says he is working behind 147 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:57,080 the scenes on legislation that should allow him and others to 148 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,520 bring forth evidence that will Pierce The Veil and launch a new 149 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,560 era of interstellar cross species exploration. 150 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,040 What he can say, and did say to Congress on TV and a hearing 151 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,920 held last August, is that decades of hiding and studying 152 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,280 these wonders for purposes of developing high tech weapons, a 153 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,440 cloaked endeavor he calls the program, has massively corrupted 154 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,720 US officialdom and its corporate instruments and electronics and 155 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,760 aerospace, who operate without proper oversight and have 156 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,080 resorted to criminal misdeeds, including murder, he said, to 157 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,880 shield the work. Man, that's some scary stuff. 158 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 This is almost like your entire government is run by an 159 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,440 organized criminal operation. After an hour of checking each 160 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,520 other out, Gresh and I climbed into his truck and headed for a 161 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,320 nearby mountain trail. I like to drive fast, he says, 162 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,440 and he does so protected by a slick new radar detector mounted 163 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,360 in the cab. The son of a Pittsburgh Lincoln 164 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Mercury salesman and the first person in his family to go to 165 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,160 college, he studied physics at Pittsburgh University. 166 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,480 The UFO whistleblower grew up in lean, uncertain circumstances. 167 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,400 There was a bankruptcy, food stamps, church assistance, a 168 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,880 bread of fascination with distant worlds. 169 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,200 Throughout the chaos of my childhood, I gravitated towards 170 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,440 Star Trek and military stuff, he tells me. 171 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:20,560 I had a fascination with astronomy. 172 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:24,560 I had a telescope as a teenager observing Saturn and various 173 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:28,840 star clusters. I used to work at the B UH-1 174 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,360 observatory in college. I used to give night sky tours 175 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,640 to the public, and I used to help produce planetarium shows. 176 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Once out on the trail, surrounded by granite peaks, 177 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,720 which Grush loves to climb, is a masochistic hobby. 178 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,120 I pressed him for details on the program. 179 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:47,400 It's a frustrating interrogation. 180 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:50,560 He swings between a boyish eagerness to share the secrets 181 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:52,720 of the cosmos. We're not alone. 182 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Maybe we're like chimpanzees to them. 183 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,840 And recessive discipline discretion. 184 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,920 At times he falls silent in answer to my question, but his 185 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,680 silence reads in different ways when I ask him. 186 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:08,160 For example, if the beings have been with us since ancient 187 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,080 times, he gazes off at a mountain in the distance in a 188 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,480 manner I find automatically affirming. 189 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Well, a lot of people think that they have been worried. 190 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,800 Whatever these things are his most suggestive comment of the 191 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,640 hike? One that haunts me throughout 192 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,680 the day and involves the cultural history of the program. 193 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:29,640 When I venture a theory that knowledge of its secrets might 194 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,200 induce an insiders over time, a state of cultic grandiosity, 195 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,760 Grush says I'm on to something describing a Gnostic streak and 196 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 certain initiates. We are the gatekeepers, they 197 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,000 think. There are also people of 198 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,720 fundamentalist religious views who regard the matter with 199 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,880 spiritual horror and would rather it never see the light of 200 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,800 day. Obviously there are some who are 201 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,480 going to think these non human intelligences are extensions of 202 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,520 demonic principalities. Wow. 203 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,520 Well they're getting into this whole thing again, Whether or 204 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,840 not these things are demons. Who's the bad guys, Louis. 205 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,280 Louis Elizondo has spent a lot of time knocking people who he 206 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,480 sees are religious zealots because quite frankly, it seems 207 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,360 like they're afraid to make contact with these things. 208 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,280 They view them as demonic, but he doesn't seem to have a 209 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,200 problem with the people that are gnostic, the gatekeepers, the 210 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,440 ones that want to hog all this information for themselves. 211 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Look what happens in any ancient society. 212 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,760 What happened when man first discovered how to make metal, 213 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,160 copper and then bronze and then iron? 214 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,640 Well, the people with that technology, they pretty much 215 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,120 hoarded it to themselves. The group that was able to 216 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,360 collect the largest amount of long pieces of metal and sharpen 217 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,640 the edges and call those things swords and kill their neighbors, 218 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,120 well, they kind of took over the world. 219 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,880 That's the danger of of human nature, he goes on and says. 220 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,200 For lunch, we zoom off to a toy like tourist village of art 221 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,240 galleries and ice cream shops. Given their peculiar morning, 222 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,000 the strolling visitors eating waffle cones seems childlike and 223 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,440 pitiful. They appear not to know that 224 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,520 they dwell inside a puzzle world where recently retired spies 225 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,120 with heads full of paradigm destroying secrets and loaded 226 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,280 sidearms in their pants are looking beside them only steps 227 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,000 away. Or is Grush lying to me as part 228 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,080 of some vast government SIOP to design, to break our minds and 229 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,720 render us helpless to further elite manipulation? 230 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,360 At the fancy Bistro he takes me to, he orders a gourmet pizza 231 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,240 topped with jalapenos and drizzled honey. 232 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,080 He turns on his phone and a Google alert appears. 233 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,800 The Washington Post is attacking me, he says. 234 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,520 I read the piece on my own phone as we eat. 235 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 It's mostly a media story. Throwing shade on the upstart 236 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,640 News Nation cable channel for devoting so much time to NH is 237 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,080 after running its first big interview with Grush. 238 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,440 The piece accuses the channel, heaven forbid, of chasing 239 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,440 ratings. Irked by the article's 240 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,320 insinuation that he is cluding in a grift, Grush reverts to 241 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,320 demolishing his pizza. Later. 242 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Outside, he takes a phone call from a congressional aide and 243 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,640 walks for 10 minutes in circles around a park, furrowing his 244 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,400 brow and nodding. It's a scene from a paranoid 245 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,840 thriller, fun to watch. We spend the afternoon together, 246 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,600 chatting beside a bubbling mountain stream. 247 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,280 He clues me in about the mechanics of the military 248 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,680 secrecy, shooting down the common notion that our 249 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,040 government is too incompetent or leaky to hold back the truth 250 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,000 about NHIS by burying pieces of the program inside already 251 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,000 existing black projects and SAPS special access programs. 252 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,840 The Enterprise has been erased from view, even the view of many 253 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,240 working on it who can't see the Galaxy for the stars and the 254 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,840 planets. But surely, I say, our 255 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,240 presidents must know, and our CIA directors and their ilk? 256 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Not necessarily, he says. I asked him to name the person 257 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,840 who knows the most out of everyone who at least knows 258 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,720 something. He offers a guess off the 259 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,080 record, a formidable figure from late 20th century politics, 260 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,640 though it's not among the few that I had anticipated. 261 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,680 I'm only guessing. He reminds me. 262 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,040 I tell him this style of interaction is madding. 263 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,720 Welcome to my world, he says. Well, of course, now we know he 264 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,920 was talking about Dick Cheney because this interview is from a 265 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,800 year ago. It's off the record. 266 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,880 And suddenly this very author's come out and said, Oh, yeah, he 267 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,720 suggested that Dick Cheney was the one that knew more than 268 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,240 anybody knew. Now, I don't know if that's just 269 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,520 because maybe Grush has a bias toward Nick Cheney. 270 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,560 I mean, he would have been a young guy growing up, I suppose, 271 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,960 going into his career when Nick Cheney, when Dick Cheney was at 272 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,040 the height of his his own career, the kind of his zenith, 273 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,080 so to speak, under the under the Bush administration. 274 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,240 I guess it's kind of fitting of this is all released right now, 275 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,720 right, Right before and on actually today, September 11th, 276 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,880 the anniversary of those tragic events, what 23 years ago now. 277 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,240 He done one of those things where we all can pretty much 278 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,160 remember where we where we were at. 279 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:08,800 And I saw this article over at discogs.com and says Vice 280 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,400 President Dick Cheney questioned on UFOs 411 O 1. 281 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,400 So this would have been April 2001. 282 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,360 Of course, the towers came down in September of 2001. 283 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,040 It says the questioning of Dick Cheney took place during 284 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,400 Cheney's appearance on the Washington, DC public radio 285 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,840 station WMAU on April 11th, 2001. 286 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,360 Dick Cheney spoke from the White House. 287 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,160 The question arises 26 minutes into the archive program. 288 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,680 For those who want to go to the link and listen, you can go to 289 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,840 the link there if you want to listen. 290 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,040 I'll put these links at Kofi. As always, thank you to the 291 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,240 people that support their program there. 292 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,440 Believe me, it does help it, says researcher Cameron. 293 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Since the statement made by George Bush last July, This is 294 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,320 back in 2001, there is a vicious rumor circulating in the UFO 295 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,560 community that you've been read into the UFO program. 296 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,880 OK, you can kind of see the facetiousness there. 297 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,359 We're talking about this liberal newscaster no doubt talking to 298 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,240 to Cheney. Why they worship this guy? 299 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,280 I just don't get it. So my question to you is, in any 300 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,440 of your government jobs, have you ever been briefed on the 301 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,760 subject of UFOs? And if you have, when was it and 302 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,800 what were you told? Yeah, he's going to tell you 303 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,240 that, Cheney says. Well, if I had been briefed on 304 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,040 it, I'm sure it was probably classified and I couldn't talk 305 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,560 about it. What do you expect then? 306 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,320 RIM says. Is there investigation going on 307 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,480 within this administration, Mr. Vice President, as to UFOs? 308 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,840 Cheney responds. I have not come across a subject 309 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,280 since I've been back in government. 310 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,000 Oh, like since January 20th. So he's kind of joking around 311 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,680 with him here. Well, I've only been back in 312 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,480 government for a couple of months and I haven't heard 313 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,440 anything, Cheney says. I've been in a lot of meetings, 314 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,960 but I don't recall one on UFOs. The key to Cheney's statement is 315 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,520 his admission that the subject of UFOs would probably be 316 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,800 classified. The US government has been 317 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,160 claiming since December 1969 when it shut down project 318 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Project Blue Book, that nothing is classified and everything is 319 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,800 on the table. Of course, we know this is a 320 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,440 flat out lie. Now, having been chief of staff 321 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,800 for President Ford and Secretary of Defense for President Bush, 322 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:31,320 it is commonly acknowledged that if anyone knew the secrets of 323 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,080 UFOs, Cheney would be a good guess. 324 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,760 Now, isn't that strange? This interviewer from NPR comes 325 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,200 to the same conclusion that David Grush gives in his 326 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,440 interview with Walter Grimm. Very weird. 327 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,440 And then it's got a little, a little one more little paragraph 328 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,960 here which I thought this was interesting. 329 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:57,400 March 2nd, 1992, New York Times scientists said to assert fraud 330 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,560 in the stars. Defense Secretary Dick Cheney 331 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,800 has been ordered by Spatial Council to investigate 332 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,840 assertations made by a Pentagon scientist that officials of the 333 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,720 Star Wars anti missile defense program had violated the law and 334 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,760 engaged in gross waste of funds. I think that could mean 335 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,320 stealing, The Washington Post reported in Monday's issue. 336 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,960 The Post said the Office of Spatial Counsel had issued the 337 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,040 directive on Friday after having found a substantial likelihood 338 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,720 that Mister Sussier's accusations were well founded. 339 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,160 It added that the directive had also conferred whistleblower 340 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,240 status on Mr. Saucier, who was dismissed last month from his 341 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,240 job and project after complaining too loud. 342 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Aldrich Saucer does not seem to have been alone in his criticism 343 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,520 on Star Wars. So if you remember Star Wars, 344 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520 that was the idea that came about the project during 345 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,480 Reagan's years, where they were going to set up these missiles 346 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,200 in space. They could knock out the Russian 347 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,240 missiles. A lot of people think that was a 348 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,200 cover. For really funding this off 349 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,720 world interstellar base that the US deep state has, you just stop 350 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,960 and think about this for a minute. 351 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,880 Here we are 23 years after the fact now, David Gresh says in an 352 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,360 interview. Well, there's somebody there off 353 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:19,400 the record that I think probably knows more about this UFO stuff 354 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,040 than anybody in 2023. Even Cheney hadn't been in there 355 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,040 for what, 15 years or something? And then now a couple days ago 356 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,600 we come out with this interview where the guy that interviewed 357 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,280 him, when he said that, he releases the name Dick Cheney. 358 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,480 So that tells me that Grush must have been in contact with him 359 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,600 and told him it's OK to go ahead and give Cheney's name. 360 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,160 So what's happened in the last year? 361 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,800 In that little one minute excerpt I played for you, you've 362 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,440 got Ross Coulter. Ross Coulter saying, hey, 363 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,280 there's going to be more stuff coming along the way. 364 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,280 And that that was a year old. He made that comment, I believe. 365 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,560 So here we are a year later. A year later, here we are. 366 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,200 And we've got Dick Cheney outed as the guy. 367 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,680 And you know, The funny thing about this is Dick Cheney was 368 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,360 often referred to as Darth Vader. 369 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,560 I mean, that's what people viewed him as. 370 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,480 Is he the personification of this deep state apparatus? 371 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,720 I don't know. It's funny to me how you have 372 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,160 this guy who's been in and out of government for years and 373 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,800 defense contractors and all kinds of controversial stuff 374 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,920 surrounding him, let's say. And then now we have him in kind 375 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,680 of the twilight of his life, being outed as this person who 376 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,000 probably knows the most about UFOs. 377 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,920 And putting that in the context of what's happened in the last 378 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,600 few weeks. He has come out viciously 379 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,120 attacking Trump, accusing him of being a traitor, him and his 380 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:48,840 daughter endorsing the opposite party that he worked for his 381 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,160 whole life. Weird stuff. 382 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,720 At the same time that Trump is coming out and saying that that 383 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,720 he's going to release all these files on Epstein and Kennedy and 384 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,840 UFOs. And he's saying this right after 385 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,320 an assassination attempt where he just missed being killed. 386 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,440 I think it was by like less than 1/3 of an inch. 387 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,000 He happened to turn his head within milliseconds. 388 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Not even probably 1/3 of an inch, probably, you know, like 389 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,240 1/10 of an inch. The bullet whizzes by Nix's ear. 390 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440 We find out. Then there's all kinds of really 391 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,120 sketchy stuff going on with the security that day. 392 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,400 Lots and lots of unanswered questions, lots and lots of 393 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,320 really strange things happening surrounding that whole event. 394 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,920 There was a UFO actually recorded at the event that Trump 395 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,520 was at. Remember that? 396 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,400 I did the podcast on that. This thing flying overhead. 397 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:48,280 So it's, it's almost like we're in this vortex right now. 398 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,680 We've got Trump, who has made a lot of mistakes. 399 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,920 Sometimes he's like a bull in a China closet, but maybe just in 400 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,800 his in his rage over what's happened to him, they're afraid 401 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,440 that he's going to start releasing this stuff. 402 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,120 I don't know if Grush has uncloaked Dick Cheney at at this 403 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,600 really pivotal moment because he's trying to save us from some 404 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,080 sort of imminent destruction or if you just thought it was time 405 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,440 to do it. I mean, why didn't he tell us it 406 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,240 was Dick Cheney a year ago? Why is he just telling us now? 407 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,760 Are some of these guys are in this whistleblower program? 408 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Do they have one last big one to pull out at the last minute to 409 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,640 let us know what's happening? A lot of us already have our 410 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,160 suspicions about Dick Cheney and a whole lot of other folks. 411 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,800 Not the person that I would want to cross up by any means, any 412 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,600 stretch of the imagination. And if he is the one that's kind 413 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,280 of the figurehead over all this UFO stuff and Trump's got his 414 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,040 hands full, he better be careful. 415 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,800 He better be hiring his own security is what I would say. 416 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:54,280 I don't know, after what happened on July 13th there, you 417 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,480 just have to wonder, was that a warning or did Trump just, did 418 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,280 he just escape the missile by, you know, by the grace of God, 419 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,880 so to speak? I don't know. 420 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,560 But it's just as I look around and we get closer and closer to 421 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,520 October or November rather, and to what could be an accidental 422 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,440 disclosure on Trump's part, or maybe he'll just act out on what 423 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,920 they see as a very irrational way to where he outs some of 424 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,520 these people. And then the normally start to 425 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,800 wake up. There could be a wave of 426 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,240 revelation that would go over this country to where even the 427 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,640 deniers and the debunkers are no longer able to sit there and 428 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,640 look at all this evidence and not and not admit that we do 429 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,280 have a secret deep state apparatus within the bowels of 430 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,240 our own government funded by all of this misspent tax money. 431 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,880 Don't forget 2001, just before 911 happened. 432 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,160 Rumsfeld comes out and says, by the way, the Pentagon's missing 433 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,120 $2.3 trillion. Of course, they still are. 434 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,840 And what happens a few days later? 435 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,400 The towers go down. The Pentagon gets hit. 436 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,400 I believe it was right in the vicinity where a lot of those 437 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,680 files were kept at. Coincidence. 438 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280 I don't know. And then we have all this, all 439 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,800 this UFO stuff that's just being kept secret for all these years. 440 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,560 It's all tied together, all the corruption. 441 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,280 That's why I go on so much about corruption on this podcast. 442 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,640 It's not just corruption with disclosure of UFOs that they're 443 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,480 hiding there. It's all the different things 444 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,600 that they're hiding. By the by their very nature, 445 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,200 they are deceitful and power hungry to the point of being 446 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,640 mad. Until next time, this is UFO 447 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,040 warning over and out.