1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,100 Hello and welcome to the program. 2 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:06,500 You have a warning and this episode were talking about 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:09,500 Skinwalker Ranch making bank. That's correct. 4 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:12,400 Skinwalker Ranch making bank. Now, we don't know exactly how 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,600 much can walk around chisme, but it seems like it's doing pretty 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,000 good. It has this recent re-up either 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,700 of their television show on the History Channel. 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,700 They've got the tourism going on. 9 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:24,000 They seem to be partnering with the state of Utah on that. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,400 And then they got these conferences that they Stars can 11 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,600 attend where they can give speeches to get. 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,100 No, Ops all sorts of things and some of those seem to be paying 13 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:35,000 pretty good. In fact, I was on Twitter today 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,100 and I follow Steven Greene Street reporter from New York 15 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:47,600 Post and he has taken a little bit of a, how should I say, 16 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:49,200 skeptical view of some of the stuff. 17 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:53,100 And he's been writing, some stuff about different Stars so 18 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,900 to speak and the UFO community and he did. 19 00:00:58,700 --> 00:00:59,800 I guess you'd almost called it X. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,900 Is a on Skinwalker Ranch, and I'd left in the comments asking 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,800 if anybody knew how much these guys make for showing up at 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,400 these UFO conventions. And he said, yeah, watch my 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,100 video. So thank you to Steven for 24 00:01:14,100 --> 00:01:16,500 replying to me. I did watch his video, he had a 25 00:01:16,508 --> 00:01:18,600 link there and he's a Twitter feed. 26 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:24,000 Absolutely fantastic video done. Of course, you know, highly 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,400 professional. It's coming out the New York 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,700 Post and he did some really good research on the ground. 29 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:33,800 Literally Early and talked about this and showed, just some of 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,300 the money that's getting made here. 31 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:38,300 Now, I couldn't find how much was being paid by like the 32 00:01:38,308 --> 00:01:40,600 History Channel. I got some estimates on some of 33 00:01:40,608 --> 00:01:45,100 the stuff that will take a look at it, but needless to say, it's 34 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:47,700 something to consider. But before I get into all that, 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,800 I've just want to take a look at a couple other articles here. 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,500 After the first one is from Utah.com written by Brian 37 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:55,700 Higgins. March 17th 2023. 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,300 It says, what is Skinwalker Ranch and what's really going on 39 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:02,300 there and then Says, did you know that one of the most 40 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:04,400 uniquely mysterious places in the world is right here? 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 In Utah rumors of UFOs and extraterrestrial beings have 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,600 been swirling around this area for years, but despite the 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,600 stories, no hard evidence has been released to show what's 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,500 really going on there. In fact, the world may never 45 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:17,700 know. That's kind of been the gripe 46 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:20,100 with a lot of people. As we have all this talk about 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Skinwalker Ranch, lots and lots of really cool stories, but 48 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,300 there seems to be a lack of really credible, hard evidence. 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,300 Now, it says Has but enough about the big you to claw and 50 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:35,600 blah blah blah. And then he says but just how 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,200 did this patch of land in eastern Utah gained worldwide 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,300 notoriety and how many of its strange stories are worth 53 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:43,700 believing. The first question is easy to 54 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:46,400 answer but we'll let you make up your mind on the second one. 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,100 Then he goes and says the earliest known inhabitants of 56 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:53,700 this land played a big part in the ominous name, the property 57 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:57,100 belongs, on lies on land. Traditionally inhabited by the 58 00:02:57,100 --> 00:02:58,600 Ute tribe. I hope I'm saying that right? 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,800 But the term. Water comes from the Navajo 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,700 Legend and translates to by means of it. 61 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:07,100 Goes on all fours. That we talked about the 62 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:10,100 skinwalker Legend before the podcast and kind of gone over 63 00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:12,400 the fact that is some really scary stuff. 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,900 And it seems like from what I've been able to find a lot of 65 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:18,100 Native Americans, really don't seem to want to talk about this. 66 00:03:18,100 --> 00:03:22,200 Now whether that's just because they view these stories as their 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,000 own Birthright, something that they don't want to and have no 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,700 desire to share with non-native people. 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,100 I mean, I can't Totally understand that considering the 70 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:35,000 fact that they've been, you know, they've had their land 71 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,100 taken away, they've suffered a lot of right bad things over the 72 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:39,700 years. So you know, part of me just 73 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:43,000 says these are their stories. They should have them and I try 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,200 not to get too far into it but you have to admit the stuff 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,700 that's really strange that goes on and says the Navajo culture 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,300 and and Navajo culture skinwalkers are evil witches 77 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,300 with the ability to shape-shift into any animal or human. 78 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:01,000 The skinwalker Legend is not Well, understood outside of 79 00:04:01,008 --> 00:04:03,300 Navajo culture. But what little is known about 80 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:06,500 it by Outsiders is enough to inspire scary stories of all 81 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:09,100 varieties. One, such story involves the 82 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:12,300 tribe, the legend goes that. During a time of hostility 83 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:15,100 between the, it's a Navajo members of the Navajo decided to 84 00:04:15,100 --> 00:04:17,000 unleash skinwalkers upon their enemies. 85 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:20,899 And those skinwalkers, still stalk the land today, kind of 86 00:04:20,899 --> 00:04:23,900 heard similar things. I've that I've come across in, 87 00:04:24,700 --> 00:04:29,500 folklore, from Comanche people, saying how they use some of this 88 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:35,600 - I don't know, religious curses or whatever on on enemies and 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,900 how it sort of had this Boomerang effect and seem to 90 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:41,500 cause a lot of hardship back into the tribes of the people 91 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:45,300 that actually released this. I guess you would call energy or 92 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:49,300 whatever, interesting stuff and says the Sherman's, the idea of 93 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:53,600 shape shifting, which is in the present-day, United Basin might 94 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 be hard for some to believe, but not for the shrimp, the family 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,600 who purchased a ranch in 1994 with intention of settling down 96 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,200 and real and relax. And their new country home. 97 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:04,100 If that sounds like the beginning of a horror movie, 98 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:06,900 it's for a good reason. The Sherman's experienced a lot 99 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:10,900 of spooky goings on during their time at the ranch, most notably 100 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:14,500 was something matching the description of a skinwalker one 101 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:16,100 night. Terry Sherman, heard a noise 102 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:20,000 outside and we'll startled to see a wolf in his yard one, much 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,200 larger than he had ever seen. Terry grabbed his gun from 104 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,300 inside and shot the wolf several times, but his bullets appeared 105 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:30,300 to do no damage whatsoever. Although the wolf Dick, take 106 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:33,300 off, he eventually, its tracks disappeared entirely as Cherry 107 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:36,600 chased it, as if it had, simply vanished Into Thin Air. 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,400 This is exact sort of thing that we hear over and over again. 109 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,400 These Bigfoot cases, where somebody takes a shot at one. 110 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,800 It disappears there, track the tracks disappear. 111 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:48,900 And even in some of these UFO cases, where the things just 112 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:53,900 seemed to vanish out of our Dimension and says, could it 113 00:05:53,908 --> 00:05:56,200 have been an ancient Skinwalker that scared them? 114 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,300 That night one thing's for certain. 115 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:01,400 It was far from the only At the Sherman's, got during the time 116 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,200 there during their years. At the ranch, they reported 117 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,400 seeing various kinds of flashing lights and mysterious objects in 118 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,900 the sky strange circles in their fields, mysterious voices of 119 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:15,900 floating overhead and countless cattle mutilations, unlike those 120 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,900 families and horror movies the Sherman's decide. 121 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:20,200 Don't the property before. It was too late, they sold the 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,300 ranch in 1996, just two years have after they had bought it. 123 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:26,400 I really can't blame him for that. 124 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:32,800 It says then it says Robert Bigelow and nids CI, knids, who 125 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:34,500 would be stupid enough to buy haunted? 126 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:37,600 Ranch, someone with a lot of money who's into that kind of 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,500 thing, of course and says, and boy was Robert Bigelow into that 128 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:45,600 kind of thing. Just a year earlier in 1995, he 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,300 founded the National Institute for Discovery Science to fund 130 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,000 research on UFOs and paranormal. The Sherman's nightmare Ranch 131 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,800 was Bigelow's playground in 1996. 600 million are Bots, 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,700 Skinwalker, Ranch and made it a research hub. 133 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:03,500 Did say I have to tell you, you got to watch this video that I 134 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:07,200 posted there to buy me a coffee site and tweet it from mr. 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,900 Greene Street, over at the New York Post, he goes in all this 136 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:13,800 and does a great job of tracking the financial aspect of this? 137 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Okay he says of course, one of the main points that Skeptics 138 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,000 will make about Skinwalker is that most of the evidence for 139 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 paranormal activity on the ranch comes from the Sherman's who 140 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,100 sold the ranch to a millionaire known for his interest. 141 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:29,000 In UFO research, could they have faked cattle, mutilations and 142 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,400 invented Tales Of wolf men to entice Bigelow or another buyer. 143 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:35,500 Then it says, it's an interesting Theory. 144 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:38,100 However, the Sherman's didn't exactly milk Bigelow for all he 145 00:07:38,108 --> 00:07:40,900 was worth, they sold the ranch for around two hundred thousand 146 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:44,700 dollars, which was an average price for a home in that day and 147 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:49,500 certainly a low one, for a 500 acre ranch, their behavior seems 148 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:52,000 less, and line with people trying to turn a profit and more 149 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,800 like folks who are trying to get the heck out of Dodge. 150 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:56,700 That's what it sounds like to me. 151 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:59,400 Now whether we're just leaving because they were afraid or 152 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,400 maybe they had Financial issues, I don't know other 153 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,300 opportunities, who knows? He's correct. 154 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:06,100 It doesn't look like they were trying to make a million dollars 155 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:07,100 off. This thing looks to me like they 156 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:09,100 just solar market value and got out of there. 157 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,300 So what did Bigelow and needs fine? 158 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,100 Well, if they found any definitive role, changing 159 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:17,400 evidence of UFOs or alien life, they kept it to themselves. 160 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:21,100 What did they find what we know of as much as the same as the 161 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:23,600 Sherman's and is researchers have shared stories of 162 00:08:23,608 --> 00:08:26,100 mysterious creatures with otherworldly eyes that Shone 163 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:28,000 through the dark. They also found cattle 164 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,300 mutilations including one that have occurred in broad daylight 165 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:33,400 less than an hour after they had seen the cowl. 166 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:36,500 Alive and healthy. This is also noteworthy because 167 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,200 there was a complex, the complete lack of blood 168 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,799 surrounding the cow. Even though I had been almost 169 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:46,200 completely disemboweled, that's pretty good evidence for 170 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,800 something paranormal there. Because look, they says, they 171 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,000 saw this cow. They come back an hour later. 172 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,700 It's been mutilated. It's been disemboweled, you 173 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:56,000 think there'd be blood everywhere but there's no blood 174 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 around. So that is a very strange thing. 175 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,400 It would be, it would be really good to have this document. 176 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,200 But photographic time-stamped evidence, it says, and then 177 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 stories definitely add to the mystery of Skinwalker. 178 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,100 But with years of research and millions in funding, you might 179 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:14,800 expect something more. Well, their lack of evidence 180 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,100 could serve as evidence to solve on many occasions. 181 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:20,300 They're expensive audio and visual equipment failed to 182 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:23,200 capture what several eyewitnesses had clearly seen 183 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,800 from large mysterious animals to Flying orbs in the sky needs to 184 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,900 span did in 2004, but maintain ownership of the property until 185 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:33,400 2016 when Skinwalker finally did change. 186 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:36,100 As it was passed off to a group that would experience a lot of 187 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:39,700 the Sam anomalies and frustrations is knits that talks 188 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:41,500 about brand new fuel on the History Channel. 189 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:44,000 And course, Brandon few goals are Real Estate Mogul. 190 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,800 I guess you could say, been in the news, a lot lately with this 191 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,900 new, you know, I think it's not like I said in the fourth 192 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:50,300 season. Now this History Channel 193 00:09:51,700 --> 00:09:53,800 program, that's been getting a lot of attention. 194 00:09:54,100 --> 00:09:58,300 It says in 2016 Bigelow solar Ranch to a buyer who wish to 195 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:02,300 remain anonymous for a whopping, four years, Brandon Fogle Utah, 196 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,800 Real Estate Mogul on Also 2020 that he was the mysterious owner 197 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,100 and that the History Channel would be recording a reality TV 198 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:13,800 show on the property titled, The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 199 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,100 Now, I want to go back to this video from Steve Green Street 200 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:21,600 again, video posted sqq. I'm telling you have to watch 201 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,200 this video. He goes into great detail, and 202 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,400 connects the dots between, you know, the house being sold to 203 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,500 Bigelow, being sold to Frugal the people that were involved in 204 00:10:31,508 --> 00:10:34,000 that decision how they connect the Defense. 205 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:35,800 But some people it almost looks to me. 206 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,700 Like it could be almost like a like a tug-of-war between the 207 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:42,600 dod or maybe even deep say actors. 208 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,700 And some of these, some of these new people that were in that 209 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:50,100 department and how they funneled money to research this now, 210 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,200 Green Street, takes it pretty critical view of all this. 211 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,900 I could give him the benefit of the doubt and say that there's 212 00:10:56,900 --> 00:11:02,700 some sort of contest here between these newer, guys, like 213 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:05,400 Travis. Taylor & Stratton some of the 214 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,200 others and some of the old guys that are buried in that deep 215 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,900 State structure. I don't know, by there does seem 216 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:15,700 to be some sort of struggle for power there. 217 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:18,300 Now, whether that's just between people being accountable, not 218 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:20,900 wanting to be accountable or whether that's between people 219 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:24,600 who are really thirsting to hold onto the power or seek new 220 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,800 knowledge. I don't know. 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,800 But Greenstreet goes into that, he gives you kind of this 222 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:34,900 straight above board. Mainline view or he's 223 00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:38,900 questioning how the money was spent, how it was how the you 224 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:42,700 know the different things were processed and he does at expert 225 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:46,400 job at dissecting. This whether or not you want to 226 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:49,700 read, you know, beneath the lines between the lines of 227 00:11:49,708 --> 00:11:55,000 whatever, that's up to you, it goes on and says the show 228 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,400 portrays Finkles attempts to bring scientific approaches to 229 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 the mystery surrounding Ranch, surrounded by a team of experts 230 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,400 in a range of scientific disciplines. 231 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,900 As well as a guy named Dragon Fogle. 232 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:07,500 Seeks answers to the questions that he and countless others 233 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:10,900 have asked over the years. It sounds like a lot of mids 234 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:15,300 that's because it is reality TV. Just wasn't as popular in 1996. 235 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:19,500 Like so many investigators. Before them the current 236 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,100 occupants of Skinwalker Ranch have found more questions than 237 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:24,000 answers. Why do electronic equipment? 238 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,300 Why does he like trying to keep women seem to malfunction on the 239 00:12:26,308 --> 00:12:28,700 ranch? Why have so many occupants 240 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:33,000 reported? Reported unexplained illnesses. 241 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 White is the Indescribable feeling of strangeness, they 242 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,500 feel on the ranch seem to follow them home. 243 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,100 Why is there a grown man named Dragon? 244 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Did he give himself that nickname? 245 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,600 It is he make his friends, call him. 246 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,100 Dragging all the time, the search for answers continues. 247 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:52,700 Well, the dragon character. Yeah, I don't, I don't know the 248 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:56,400 guy but just his presence on the show pack and shotgun around 249 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,300 stuff. Seems a little over the top to 250 00:12:58,300 --> 00:13:03,100 me but as we'll see He's making bank at these at these UFO 251 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:04,700 conferences, he's doing good for himself. 252 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:10,100 So I can't criticize Dragon for seeming, a little bigger than 253 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:12,400 life. Let's say on the TV show because 254 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:16,600 he seems to have really, he seems to have really created a 255 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,700 character for himself. Let's say, as far as this 256 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,400 phenomena things following people home, Travis Taylor has 257 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,700 gone into great detail about this hitchhiker effect and we've 258 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:30,900 done a podcast on. He thinks that there they are. 259 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:34,800 Encountering some sort of evil presence there and that it's 260 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:38,500 going home with them and causing havoc in their houses. 261 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:44,000 If you look at that from a Biblical perspective, they would 262 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,900 just say well, that's either a demonic oppression or position, 263 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:50,400 perhaps probably oppression of this. 264 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,400 Demonic Force has attached itself to you. 265 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:58,800 And now it's bothering you in your life back home and I'll be 266 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,800 one way to look at. And I think some of the other 267 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,500 way, Religions of the world might might look at that way to 268 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:06,100 maybe the moslems that, you know, maybe Islam has something 269 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:07,200 about that. You can talk about the gym, 270 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,900 maybe even and Buddha I think they have a thing with evil 271 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:13,100 spirits. So this is not just a Christian 272 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:15,600 thing to think that, well, maybe these guys have encountered, 273 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,500 evil spirits, and the spirits have kind of attached themselves 274 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,400 to them. So, that's the thought of The 275 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,300 Hitch-Hiker effect. Okay, now we go on to says, need 276 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:28,100 habits of Skinwalker Ranch. May have may have reported 277 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:30,500 slightly different stores over the years, but they have a few 278 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:32,300 things. Common that are hard to shake. 279 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:34,700 Most notable is a strong conviction that what they're 280 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:37,400 seeing is the real deal. And it's a conviction shared by 281 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,100 many in the area. Since the 1950s there have been 282 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:44,000 hundreds of other hundreds of reports of UFOs. 283 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,300 Unexplained phenomena in the united Basin and just not as 284 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,900 Skinwalker neighbors of the ranch reports saying various 285 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:54,500 types of bright lights in the sky often appearing as a shape 286 00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:56,800 that looks like a doorway or portal. 287 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,700 Others report giant flying objects cattle, mutilations are 288 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,400 Amin to some neighbors have reported seeing cows that 289 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,300 appeared to have been struck by lightning with no sign of 290 00:15:07,308 --> 00:15:09,300 scorched. Earth to be found one group, 291 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:12,200 shared a story of trying to spot UFOs. 292 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,200 One night only to return to find that their car had been moved 293 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,500 without a trace of tire tracks. Wow, in the desert sand up. 294 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:21,300 You strange, perhaps most horrifyingly, however, it is a 295 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:23,300 story of a group of History Channel production, assistants 296 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:27,100 who have, who have to get coffee for Dragon every day and that's 297 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:28,200 a little funny. I suppose. 298 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,900 So what's really going on? There are plenty of things. 299 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,100 Is as to what's going on over at Skinwalker Ranch. 300 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:35,800 Some of them were pretty out there. 301 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:38,200 Now this is some people think they're lying, some people think 302 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,100 it's e.t. Some people think it's 303 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:42,700 interdimensional. Some people just think that it's 304 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:45,900 some sort of geophysical process and then he kind of closes the 305 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:48,600 article up. Well he did a decent job on the 306 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,900 history of Skinwalker Ranch. I think touched on the fact that 307 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,400 Robert Bigelow bought it then sold it this brand-new fugle. 308 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:58,600 And so that kind of gives you a little bit of the background. 309 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,400 Now, before I get to the New York Post, Video, I just want to 310 00:16:03,408 --> 00:16:07,500 take a look at this article right here from Newsweek and 311 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:11,800 it's talking about this upcoming series. 312 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,500 That's coming up, think for the fourth season. 313 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:16,500 This, I, when I checked, I think this said this thing was that 314 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:21,300 number eight. The number eight television 315 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:24,700 program on the History Channel and I know people just watch 316 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:27,200 this thing religiously. Now this comes from 317 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,600 Newsweek.com. It says Skinwalker Ranch. 318 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,400 The UFO hotspot. In Utah that has men obsessed. 319 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:40,000 It's written by I'm trying to see the yeah written my Hannah 320 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,300 Osborne April 28 2022. So this is the last year. 321 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:48,500 It says Skinwalker Ranch has a 512 acre property, tucked away 322 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:52,100 the northeast corner of Utah that apparently UFOs and them 323 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:55,700 instead of them just can't get enough of and the 1960s and 70s. 324 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:59,000 There was a UFO flurry of UFO sightings and the United Basin 325 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,300 negocio en us', Skinwalker Ranch has the most scientifically 326 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:05,099 steady paranormal hot spot on the planet with the highest 327 00:17:05,099 --> 00:17:09,400 frequency of UFO, sightings bizarre cattle mutilations 328 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,099 electromagnetic anomalies, an unexplained. 329 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:16,700 Phenomena brand of frugal who bought the ranch in 2016 told 330 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:19,599 Newsweek. Now, this is an issue because 331 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:25,099 Green Street had he, did he interviewed Fuel and then he 332 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:29,000 points out in the in the video that he did. 333 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,100 That he actually tried to contact him and SEC. 334 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:35,400 Okay, give me the data on this stuff because, you know, he's 335 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,700 looking for data that could be peer review. 336 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:40,100 Possibly. She was not having any of that 337 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:46,400 when he got back. Basically was just some stories, 338 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,500 you know, it's a incidental stuff, anecdotal stuff. 339 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:53,900 I guess I would call it talking about cattle mutilations and UFO 340 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:57,600 sightings and Equipment, not working, but he didn't get what 341 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,100 he didn't get was we went out at this time of the I and we 342 00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:03,000 observe from this time to this time. 343 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,500 And we saw this, this, and this, so the basics, you know, your, 344 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:10,300 your, your, your person place time, you know, this where they 345 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:14,800 can really measure stuff at now. They have recorded a lot of cool 346 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:20,000 stuff there, but as far as using the scientific method, I'm not 347 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,900 so sure about that. The entertainment method. 348 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:28,000 Maybe now they do have some really high quality people out 349 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,400 there. Travis Taylor has two Dee's, 350 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,800 it's a really smart guy. I mean he's a literal rocket 351 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,000 sides. But if he's not doing scientific 352 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,900 work that, you know, that meets the scientific standard, then 353 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:45,600 that's okay. But he's making some great 354 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:52,100 entertainment, and he is making some observational assessments 355 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:54,100 at and stuff like that, which is helpful. 356 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,800 But it's not something you can really go back and write a 357 00:18:56,808 --> 00:18:59,600 dissertation about and I think that's what greens take was 358 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:06,000 getting about. Now the article says that fugle, 359 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,300 a real estate Tycoon initially bought the property through a 360 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:12,500 shell company wanting to keep his identity secret quote. 361 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:14,700 I acquired the property from billionaire Robert Bigelow, for 362 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:17,200 the purpose of conducting scientific research to determine 363 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,100 if there was any validity to extraordinary claims of 364 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,500 Paranormal Activity said, now I have to say that Green Street 365 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:26,500 points out in the video. Again, that this thing was 366 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:29,200 incorporated, not as a scientific research company, but 367 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,900 is an entertainment company. So it's almost like we have to 368 00:19:34,900 --> 00:19:36,600 be honest here. I love that show. 369 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,600 Skinwalker, Ranch, and I enjoy reading about it. 370 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,900 I think there probably is some weird stuff going on out there, 371 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,300 but I think we can use the term scientifical a little bit too 372 00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:46,600 Loosely and I don't think scientific is going to make it 373 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,100 that much money on the inter Channel, but I think 374 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,100 entertainment and that involves around UFOs and a paranormal can 375 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:56,300 make you a lot of money on the History Channel. 376 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,800 Now it says Skeptics of Skinwalker Ranch are many. 377 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,100 One of the most prominent Robert Schaefer people to point out 378 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,500 that the claims of Paranormal Activity began, just after the 379 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:06,500 family that owned their Ranch Was preparing to sell it to 380 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:08,800 Bigelow. The founder of the National 381 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,500 Institute for Discovery Science are privately financed research 382 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:15,800 organization, big Lo had bought it to investigate UFO sightings 383 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,200 at the ranch through needs. But after a decade of 384 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,000 observations TV, the team gave up the ghost. 385 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:24,100 Yeah, I don't know. I think he, I think Bigelow had 386 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,000 his run with it. He's a rich guy. 387 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,200 Hey you know, could have been like a toy, he had me spit 10 388 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,200 years. Out there, messing around with 389 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,100 it and he sold it. And I don't believe these people 390 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:37,700 just ramped up the Paranormal stuff to sell the ranch. 391 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:40,500 I don't know. I can't prove one way, and I 392 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:43,400 can't prove it one way, either one way or the other, but there 393 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,300 was a lot of this kind of stuff going on out there. 394 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,000 And so I suspect that it was a big 500 acre ranch and two 395 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,200 hundred thousand dollars was just not a lot of money to this 396 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,300 guy and given some of the stuff that he heard about this 397 00:20:56,300 --> 00:20:58,800 interested him. And you know, 200 Grand Robert 398 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,400 Bigelow is probably Be like, you know, like a hundred bucks to 399 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,400 your eye, maybe like a buck, who knows. 400 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,300 So I don't want to get too far into that. 401 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:09,300 It goes on and says the Department of Defense 402 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:13,300 established the, you, a PTF to improve us understanding of and 403 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:15,600 gain insight into the nature and origins of you peace. 404 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,200 That the omission of the task force is to detect analyze and 405 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,500 catalog. You a piece that could 406 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:22,800 potentially pose a threat to US National Security. 407 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,100 So, that's what it's supposed to do. 408 00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:30,100 But Green Street gets into this and what it kind of looks like 409 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:34,500 and I can, I can kind of believe this is that this whole bit 410 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:39,000 about a tip and all these guys wanting to Wanting to 411 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,700 investigate the goings-on at Skinwalker Ranch. 412 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:44,800 You know, whether the 22 million dollar, grant that Harry Reid, 413 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,400 what's behind that? That that got these guys on the 414 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,000 ground out there investigating stuff. 415 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:52,300 A lot of this is seems and he puts out there was just 416 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:55,000 basically you had some people and the defense department that 417 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,200 we're really interested in UFOs in a paranormal and this is a 418 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,800 way for them to fund their Hobby. 419 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:04,300 And, you know, I can kind of see that, okay? 420 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:07,700 It's either that or it's this top-secret deep State thing that 421 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:09,300 nobody wants. Us to know about. 422 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,800 And it almost looks like, yeah, maybe that deep State interest 423 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,800 is there. And you have those pretty 424 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,500 clearly it is, but it seems like the people that were really 425 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,200 behind this whole, you know, the Louis elizondo's. 426 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,600 And these guys that were behind this UFO research, the come 427 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,300 lately, he's seemed to be a different set of guys, than the 428 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:32,100 ones that have been there since a World War Two that we're 429 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:33,500 covering this stuff up for decades. 430 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:37,000 So it's almost like these guys kind of found a new little niche 431 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,600 that they could investigate. Kind of this paranormal stuff 432 00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:43,700 and Skinwalker Ranch was Ground Zero because Robert Bigelow was 433 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:45,500 there. Robert Bigelow was connected to 434 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:50,400 the dod already, really wealthy guy had a friend in Harry Reid 435 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:53,400 so it was a way for from what I can see is some of these 436 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,300 latecomers and the dod. Whether it's Louis or whether 437 00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:01,500 it's Travis, Taylor, all these guys, I'm not sending a bad 438 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:04,200 about it but it was just a way that they as government 439 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,400 employees that doing their investigations into this, you 440 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,500 know, High strangeness. Yes, they could do that at 441 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:15,600 Skinwalker without stepping on the toes of some of these senior 442 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,000 employees that maybe didn't really want them around. 443 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,700 And you kind of saw that when this whole a tip could thing 444 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:25,300 came out and Elizondo says, hey, I used to head this department 445 00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:27,900 and the DoD said, no, you didn't. 446 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:30,900 We don't know who you are and kind of gave him the cold 447 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:32,600 shoulder. Almost like the Mean, Girls 448 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,300 treatment and Elizondo filed, a complaint, and there's been this 449 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:40,100 back and forth and some people say Well signed, you know, he 450 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,700 was employed there, but this department consisted of nothing 451 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:46,500 more than him. He had been ended and this is 452 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:50,400 nothing more than him studying UFOs and his free time blah blah 453 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,100 blah. So it's almost like a high 454 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:55,700 school popular kids fight, you kind of see this going back and 455 00:23:55,700 --> 00:24:00,000 forth and I see this coming through and green streets 456 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,800 reporting and although he's a little more critical because 457 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,400 he's looking at the money aspect of it to me, what I see is to 458 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:12,700 Groups of people, maybe three in our government that have an 459 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:15,900 acute interest in UFOs. In the Paranormal, you have 460 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,700 those guys that are just long-term employees have been 461 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,600 there for 35, 40 years and their territorial. 462 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,400 They don't want to give up any of their power in either 463 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,100 territory. And you probably have some that 464 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:28,900 are really are what you would think of as deep State actors 465 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:33,400 Taylor, even acknowledges this, when he talks about, we're not 466 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,300 going to let the Men in Black interfere with operation because 467 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:39,000 that's illegal. He's in a he's in a You saying 468 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,000 that on camera? So, You see this? 469 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:47,100 These entrenched employees whether they're just long-term 470 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:50,400 employees or deep Staters and it's almost like they're 471 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,900 competing with this newer bunch of fly. 472 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:57,600 She characters like Elizondo or maybe that melon, or or Travis 473 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,700 whoever you just just pick your poison all these guys that you 474 00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:05,500 see at these UFO conferences and these newer bunch of guys are 475 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:10,100 seen as kind of Outsiders, maybe Intruders and you, you can 476 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:14,000 constantly pick up on this. Belittling coming from the 477 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,800 establishment of these guys and part of it is maybe just 478 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,600 jealousy and part of it might actually be some deserve a 479 00:25:22,608 --> 00:25:27,100 criticism, just because of the money involved where the money 480 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:30,300 is coming from. How has been budgeted, you know, 481 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,700 the whole situation with Harry Reid, how he appropriated was a 482 00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:38,500 22 million dollars. Just a Skinwalker Ranch, how 483 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,700 they kind of couched that paranormal study and terms of a 484 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:44,500 defense department. Budget, that sort of thing, sort 485 00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:48,000 of this Shady stuff. And then on top of that, you 486 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,300 have some other weird things happening as far as the overlap 487 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,900 between the monetization of all this UFO stuff. 488 00:25:56,500 --> 00:26:00,800 And these very guys that have come out of the dod aware ever 489 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:04,200 and these programs where they've been studying Skinwalker, Ranch 490 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,600 or UFOs or whatnot, guys like Elizondo and Travis Taylor and 491 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,000 the rest of them, it's the money thing. 492 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,300 Like It's on this video here. Once again, this New York Post 493 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:18,600 video by Steve Green Street and he has a screenshot where it 494 00:26:18,608 --> 00:26:23,200 shows this one, one of these UFO conventions and if you want to 495 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,400 go there to the, to the convention, here's your deal for 496 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:33,400 a weekend pass, $120. You've got a, a cosmic pass. 497 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,600 That's where you get some autographs and stuff at $349, 498 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,700 you got the galactic pass boy. Yeah, there you go. 499 00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:44,700 More autographs and pictures. 1499 that's 50 picking on our 500 00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:48,500 bucks and if you want the big Infinity pass two thousand 501 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,700 dollars, I'll think about it. These conferences are ten are 502 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,300 attended by hundreds and hundreds of people. 503 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,800 So they are generating an awful lot of money and any time you 504 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600 get this kind of money generated, you're going to start 505 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,000 to raise some questions. And if there's not transparency 506 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,100 and there's not accountability, people are going to immediately. 507 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,600 Thank well, this guy's just in it for the money. 508 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,600 I mean, In the state or the county of Utah's getting in on 509 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,000 this. I mean he had the video shows a 510 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,700 clip there with the AG of Utah sitting down with Fugal talking 511 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:27,200 about this we have he has a screen shot here from says you 512 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,800 know Tha County paid tens of thousands to Phenom con 513 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,000 speakers. This is where they had this big, 514 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,900 you know, this big Roundup or the stars of the show came in 515 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,300 and did a personal appearances and repay. 516 00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:41,600 It says, financial records obtained for unit. 517 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:45,000 Sauk County indicate its spent over a hundred and thirty three 518 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,800 thousand dollars on the 2022 Phenom akan which with while 519 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,000 racing about 124,000 in Revenue. So let's look at net loss of 520 00:27:54,008 --> 00:27:58,500 about 9,000 compiling a record compiling, a reported data, some 521 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:02,700 9,000 dollars for sponsoring the Paranormal theme conference, the 522 00:28:02,708 --> 00:28:07,100 inaugural 2021 phenomenon likewise tallied over 74,000. 523 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,200 Payouts what collecting about 59,000 in Revenue? 524 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,600 Finishing some fish 10,000 in the whole expenses for the two 525 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,000 conferences confirmed to be sponsored by unity County 526 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,300 included. Tens of thousands of dollars in 527 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:27,200 payments to dubious speakers and catered VIP meals in which such 528 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,700 unsupported rumors were spread of dangerous paranormal. 529 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,800 Phenomena payouts. Also include workshops 530 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,300 permitting such topics as remote viewing and payments for rental 531 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,800 car. Rental car reimbursements. 532 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,700 Then it goes on from there. So you see see this is a money 533 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,600 thing. So people to tell you that these 534 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:50,000 guys is these UFO experts are working for free, show me the 535 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,400 receipts because the receipts that I am seeing is showing that 536 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,700 places like Skinwalker Ranch are making bank, even when the state 537 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,200 or the county is losing money. And let's take a look at a 538 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,700 couple other ones here. Now, I'm going to post some 539 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,700 screenshots on the buy me a coffee website, or you can just 540 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:09,600 watch the video yourself and just and just hit pause. 541 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,700 But I noticed a couple things. They were going through the list 542 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:18,100 of expenses for this phenomenon or whatever I guess to this to 543 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,300 the county because this is public information. 544 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800 It has speaker costs listed as thirty three thousand five 545 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,800 hundred and sixty four dollars and sixteen cents so thirty 546 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,900 three thousand five hundred sixty four dollars paid to the 547 00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:31,800 guys that came here and talked and then it has it has Travis 548 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,200 Taylor listed as a special speaker is thirty nine hundred 549 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,800 dollars. So he got paid just about 4 550 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800 grand at least, then it goes on here. 551 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,200 It has some other ones that At that are listed, the money 552 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,700 involved is just what really just boggles my mind. 553 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,500 Here we go. I says Swain Brothers $542 antic 554 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:57,300 a form 600, swing Brothers, 274, Caleb bench 976 Dragon security. 555 00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:00,400 Now, I'm wondering if they're talking about dragging, the guy 556 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,200 that gets so much grief on the show carrying a shotgun red, 557 00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:08,500 dragon security, 3389 dollars and 82 cents. 558 00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:11,900 And then it says behind the scenes dinner with skin Her 559 00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:15,700 Ranch and then it has looks like Travis is listed again for. 560 00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,700 Let's see here. Was it 15 grand? 561 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:22,700 It's got a throw in Winter tenant for a thirty four hundred 562 00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:25,700 dollars, so you can see what's happening here is. 563 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:33,000 These celebrities are just are just piling up at Travis Taylor 564 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,200 1539 dollars behind the dinner was Skinwalker Ranch, so you can 565 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,400 go. If you go online or you watch 566 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,300 the Video. You can see these guys are 567 00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:44,800 getting their pictures taken here. 568 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,600 It says Travis Taylor. Shane 38-hundred dollars plus 569 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,500 1365 and then another bill for 3900 and then another one for 570 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,600 1500. So it looks like Travis's take 571 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,200 on this but phenomenon was around 10 grand. 572 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400 If I'm reading that correctly, 10 grand. 573 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:06,900 So this is kind of what's going on and this is the sort of thing 574 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:13,300 that that the groom takes way. About here, he's showing Utah, 575 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:17,500 County fun, General. Dear detailed revenue report, 576 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,000 and then it's showing, it looks like a Spence's of Sixteen 577 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,200 thousand ten thousand, two thousand, six thousand, my gosh. 578 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:32,800 So it becomes a problem when you start mixing this stuff with 579 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,100 government, whether it's the dod budget, whether it's the state 580 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,900 of Utah tourism budget, or whether it's just a county 581 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,000 budget, when you have the county kicking in ten, fifteen, twenty 582 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 thousand, whatever it is, and at this, and they're losing money 583 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,800 on that endeavor. By the way, while you're paying 584 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000 a star, the show ten thousand dollars while you're paying 585 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,400 Dragon security almost 4,000, then people on the outside 586 00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:01,000 people that aren't true believers of the UFO. 587 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,100 Phenomena people who've never had the experience with you. 588 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,900 If are seen one, they look at that. 589 00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:08,900 And they say, man, this is an abuse of taxpayer funds and they 590 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:11,500 start to just pick apart these guys testimony. 591 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:13,300 And they start to notice a little things. 592 00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:15,100 And then all of a sudden, everything they disagree with 593 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,700 becomes related to the financial aspect of it. 594 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Because I that's like, I always say, follow the money and when 595 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,500 you're following the money and the money is all going into a 596 00:32:24,508 --> 00:32:27,900 few hands. Then you have to start saying, 597 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,200 well not saying they're a bad person, but we have to start 598 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,300 saying this person is making bank and from what I can see, 599 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,700 Skinwalker Ranch is making bank. Not that there's anything wrong 600 00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:43,800 with that until next time, this is UFO warning over and out. 601 00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,100 Then you have to start saying, well not saying they're a bad 602 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:33,800 person, but we have to start saying this person is making 603 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,100 bank and from what I can see, Skinwalker Ranch is making bank. 604 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,000 Not that there's anything wrong with that until next time, this 605 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,800 is UFO warning over and out.