1 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:06,800 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,000 In this episode we're talking about Arrow looking for aliens. 3 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:13,320 That's correct, Arrow looking for aliens. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Now we're talking about Arrow. We're talking about the US 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,000 Department of Defence's All Domain Anomaly Resolution 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Office. As I always say, the office that 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,560 seems to resolve nothing. Not really sure why they've 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,400 decided to bring this puff piece out here. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Maybe it's because there's been some talk about, you know, the 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,360 need for disclosure. Don't know. 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,200 But I think it's important to keep an eye on these guys just 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,280 to see what they're up to. This article comes to us from 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,600 scientificamerican.com written by Leonard David. 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,720 Looks like I stated March 25th, 2025. 15 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:50,280 Says the US government's top UFO scientist has an open mind about 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,600 alien visitation. Begins by saying have you seen 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,680 something inexplicable in the sky? 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,440 John Koloski, director of the US Department of Defenses All 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, wants to hear from you. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,800 That's interesting. Whether captured in declassified 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,280 military footage or in a smartphone videos uploaded to 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,000 social media, UFOs are swarming Earth's skies and demonstrating 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,560 capabilities so astonishing that they must represent technologies 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,920 that are advanced beyond any available on Earth. 25 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:29,320 Clearly these sightings point to the involvement of space aliens, 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,440 or perhaps just a global cabal of nefarious humans with ultra 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,400 spiffy above top secret flying machines that routinely break 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,640 the known laws of physics. You can see here by this almost 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,960 a 7th grade style of writing that the author is really trying 30 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:49,800 to minimalize the phenomena of these UFOs. 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Just, you know, just kind of cheeky little thing they like to 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,680 do. At least that's what modern day 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,480 folklore would have you believe, no matter how many times 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,280 skeptics convincingly debunk. OK, now you're starting to see 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,520 the, the, the narrative that this author is trying to push. 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,320 He's not being at all open minded about this. 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Look at the term convincingly debunked. 38 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,920 So they're assuming they're assuming that all, all these 39 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:25,040 phenomena have been explained. So I mean, when, when they say 40 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,120 you can't fix stupid, I mean they're correct, convincingly 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,400 debunked. So think about all the, the 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,360 millions of people that have had experiences where they've seen 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,720 UFOs, where they've had contact with UFOs. 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,680 It has to be in the 1,000,000. But yet this guy here says that 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,320 skeptics, skeptics have convincingly debunked. 46 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,720 There's no way that a few dozen skeptics online or wherever the 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,560 the ones we see all the time have convincingly debunked every 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,120 single UFO sighting ever. And we just think about that. 49 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Think about the volume of UFOs sightings that we that we, I 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,840 mean, we talk about here all the time, thousands and thousands 51 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,120 and thousands. I just barely scratched the 52 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,040 surface here. And be it we're to believe that 53 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,360 every one of those sightings has been convincingly debunked, 54 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,840 sightings that they don't even know about have been 55 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,200 convincingly debunked. So this is a kind of close 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,720 mindedness, the kind of nonsense, the kind of stupidity 57 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:33,520 that we are up against as these lap dogs in the mainstream media 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,240 try to defend an indefensible narrative. 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,520 So it goes on and says how many times deputies convincingly 60 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,640 debunked sensational UFO sightings as mere 61 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,040 misidentifications of conventional aircraft sensor art 62 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,840 crafts for natural phenomena. Regardless of what one 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,240 personally believes about all of this, what's certain is that 64 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,640 claims of mysterious trespassers in American airspace are taken 65 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,520 very seriously by the US government for reasons of 66 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,440 national security. So he is this very dismissive 67 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,840 tone. Well, they probably are nothing 68 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,000 but mistaken identity. But just to be sure, big daddy 69 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,280 government is going to check into all this so you can go back 70 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,080 to sleep. They're taking the 71 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,560 responsibility for identifying these things off the shoulders 72 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480 of the viewer, off the average person. 73 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Nothing to see here. Move along sheep and telling you 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,200 don't worry about it. The government has this all 75 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,080 under control, all part of the narrative, it goes on. 76 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,400 That's why, at Congress's behest, the US Department of 77 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Defence established its All Domain Anomaly Resolution 78 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,160 Office, where they resolved nothing in July of 2022. 79 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,760 The office investigates reports of UFOs under the more generic 80 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,280 rebranding of unidentified anomalous phenomena. 81 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,160 Uaps. Yeah, they want to equate UFOs 82 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,640 with ball lightning. If they can turn these things 83 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,200 into a weather event, it's that much easier to get people not to 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,800 be focused on them. Arrow's work, however, isn't 85 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,120 really about chasing down extraterrestrial invaders so 86 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,840 much as it involves standardizing reporting methods, 87 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,200 curating and analyzing data sets, and assessing possible 88 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,040 threats posed by Uaps. In other words, it's not about, 89 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,760 it's not about identifying UFOs, It's about setting up a massive, 90 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,240 massive spy network where we can surveil the skies. 91 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,680 We can surveil, you know, about everything that's going on. 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,480 But then, when a invasion of drones happens in New Jersey or 93 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,560 New York, we're told nothing to see here, move along. 94 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Think less Men in Black and more Pentagon desk jockeys with 95 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,160 advanced degrees and highly classified resumes. 96 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,160 There you go. Appeal to authority. 97 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,120 These guys are so smart that we can't even tell you what their 98 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,440 CV is. They're just that smart. 99 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,840 The office's current director, John Klosky, who took over in 100 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:03,800 August 2024 after the departure of his predecessor Sean 101 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,480 Kirkpatrick in December 2023, is a good example of the archetype. 102 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,840 This professional past is punctuated by the National 103 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:15,360 Security Agency research in networking and computing, 104 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,480 optical light communications and cryptography, as well as its 105 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,120 invention of an advanced language agnostic search engine 106 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,600 for the dot. That's what we need. 107 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Somebody who is an expert and spying on us has a picture of 108 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,720 this. Pretty happy looking chap here. 109 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,600 Koloski spoke with Scientific American about his vision and 110 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,520 agenda for Arrow and of course, his thoughts on the 111 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,120 extraterrestrial hypothesis for unexplained UA. 112 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,360 PS I just get the feeling that this time they've brought 113 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,080 somebody out who's a little more approachable, a little less 114 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,560 academic looking. This looks like a dude that you 115 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,400 might somebody that you might be comfortable buying life 116 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,680 insurance from. I'm getting a feeling that he's 117 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,680 going to be this down to earth guy that can sell you a Pooh 118 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 sandwich if that's what, yeah, you need to be buying. 119 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,240 As opposed to Kirkpatrick, who just seemed a little bit too 120 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,160 uppity to a lot of people. Koloski spoke with Scientific 121 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,800 American about his vision and agenda for Arrow and of course, 122 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,040 his thoughts on extraterrestrial hypothesis for unexplained UIP 123 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,240 S. The question begins with what 124 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,440 milestone and direction do you and AARO foresee as as you 125 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,840 assess the UAP situation in response? 126 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,320 We have quite a lot going in the office. 127 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,840 We're working diligently to make our AARO website available to 128 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,040 the public so they can report an incident. 129 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Why wouldn't you know it? Wouldn't you like to know what 130 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,200 that thing cost? Wouldn't you like a good old 131 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,800 fashioned doge investigation, the Aero website up and running 132 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,560 cost on that? We want to have a semi automated 133 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,720 processing chain to quickly bring those cases in and then 134 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,080 look for correlations with other cases from government sources. 135 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Or perhaps you could direct the CIA, the Department of Defense, 136 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,960 and the rest of these agencies to just release the files on 137 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,440 UFOs unredacted. That would be a start. 138 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,800 We're also working on machine learning and artificial 139 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,600 intelligence tools that we can look for correlations at a 140 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,400 larger scale. In other words, we're going to 141 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,680 radar map your entire country so we can we can tell immediately 142 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,520 if there's a household drone flying around or if you're out 143 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,880 in your backyard walking your dog and we'll know exactly. 144 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,800 They want 100% God's eye view of everything. 145 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,760 That's what they're really that's what they're really 146 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,120 talking about here. They're not talking about 147 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,960 finding UFOs, they're talking about surveillance. 148 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,039 ARO is also looking at better utilization of the whole fabric 149 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:42,480 of U.S. government censors that are available. 150 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,080 That will help our case resolutions, but also poses the 151 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,880 potential challenge of looking at an awful lot of data. 152 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,320 In other words, they're spying on so many people, they're 153 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,880 listening to so many conversations, they're reading 154 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,120 so many emails that they're having a really hard time of 155 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,080 trying to process all the information. 156 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,960 But every time there's some kind of a terrible crime, it seems 157 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,360 like the FBI says, well, they were on our radar. 158 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Well, they were on your radar, but why didn't you do anything 159 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,360 to keep these bad things from happening? 160 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,800 I, you should be able to look at this on the surface of it and 161 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,680 say, Oh, well, they want to put this in this whole complex 162 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,400 surveillance network into place, process all this information 163 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,680 using AI, which they've never been able to do before, but yet 164 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,320 they don't seem to be taking any of the UFO reports seriously. 165 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,080 So then what's all this surveillance equipment doing? 166 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,480 If it's not spying on UFOs? Well, maybe it's spying on you. 167 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,480 A last big push is for increased transparency. 168 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,120 But look, that's never going to happen. 169 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Transparency is sunlight to a vampire. 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,680 As far as the deep state's gone. They don't want transparency. 171 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,920 They want the opposite of transparency. 172 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:02,520 Their whole there are whole power base is the foundation is 173 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,800 deception not transparency. Our last big push is for 174 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,440 increased transparency to find more efficient ways to share 175 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,000 information with the public and scientific community to help us 176 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,120 in some of our investigations. Well, you could start by when 177 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:23,640 people like Greenwald ask for UFO files that are from Korea, 178 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,840 say from 7075 years ago, you could start by sending him files 179 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,640 that haven't been blacked out. You can start there. 180 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,560 That would be that would be a big step in transparency. 181 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,560 Take some of these files that are 6070 years old and that 182 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,360 people have been asking to see for years and years and years. 183 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Go ahead and release those files unredacted. 184 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,560 That would be the first start. Standardizing the UAP data is an 185 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,440 initiative to make it better suited for data science. 186 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,800 As we do that, we'd like having both the raw data as well as 187 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,000 post processing data available to as wide of an audience as 188 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,960 possible. But we need to respect the 189 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,040 sensitivities of the sources and methods used to gather those 190 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,680 data. Yes, sources and method. 191 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:13,760 Isn't that the same phrase that the FBI used constantly when 192 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,120 your question about some of their recent investigations that 193 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,880 the CIA used when they were asked to release some of these, 194 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,720 some of these most recent files that just can't seem to get 195 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,720 released? All these different parts of the 196 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,560 deep state, when they get caught doing things they shouldn't be 197 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:34,360 doing, and our elected politicians demand that they 198 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 tell us what's going on. All we hear is sources and 199 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,240 methods. Sources and methods. 200 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:42,640 Well, the sources apparently are unreliable and the methods 201 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,640 involve a lot of deception. So you make up your own mind. 202 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Last November, it says you testified before the Senate 203 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Committee on Armed Service subcommittees on emerging 204 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:54,680 threats and capabilities. One point you raised was the 205 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:57,840 importance of removing the stigma of reporting a UAP event. 206 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,840 How much of a problem is that? Before I I give you his answer, 207 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,560 let's just think about how some of these recent whistle blowers 208 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,520 were treated. The open letters written by Sean 209 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,440 Kirkpatrick. Stigma. 210 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,720 Yeah, I think so. It seems to have diminished 211 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,360 quite a bit. He says, thankfully, through a 212 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,600 variety of public endeavours. I think it does persist, for 213 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,080 example, with local law enforcement and some military 214 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,320 members. However, see how he's shifting 215 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,600 the blame. This whole deep personing that's 216 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,400 not from the ground up, that's from the top down, that's been a 217 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,560 hallmark of the deep state since Project Blue Book and all the 218 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:35,960 rest of this nonsense of depersoning people. 219 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,120 So it's not the the problem is not with local law enforcement. 220 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,040 The problem is not with just some random military members. 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,200 It is a way of doing business that the deep state has employed 222 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,960 for over 70 years. He says that they have 223 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,640 experienced some pushback themselves from discussing 224 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,360 events that they've been a part of, but have come forward and 225 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,160 shared that information with AARO. 226 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,960 So maybe the stigma is reduced, but not completely gone. 227 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,200 Good progress is being made there. 228 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,320 Probably there's a little ways to go. 229 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,680 What would you like on your Pooh sandwich? 230 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Ketchup and mustard or just Pickles and onions? 231 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,560 Arrow has reportedly deployed the Gremlin system and we've 232 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,520 talked about this Gremlin system before. 233 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,640 To me, this is a very, very dangerous system. 234 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Just more surveillance, a multi sensor network system for 235 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,360 detecting, tracking and characterizing Uaps and an 236 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,920 undisclosed location. What is the status of this 237 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,880 project? He says Gremlin is envisioned to 238 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,760 be a test bed for sensor evaluations and sensor fusion. 239 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,200 We expect it to be a living system, always evolving. 240 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,400 Why doesn't that make you feel better? 241 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,120 A living system? We will be swapping in and out 242 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,440 new sensors and algorithms for various approaches. 243 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,440 Yeah, what could go wrong? We want to document what we 244 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,000 learn and share that with the public and other organizations 245 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,560 inside the government. The hope is they can take what 246 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,600 we have learned and replicate that. 247 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,440 Yeah, because the deep state is so good at sharing information. 248 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Gremlins itself is going quite well and it's very robust. 249 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,520 It has been running out in the wild for several months now, 250 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,840 gathering data using radar, Electro, optical and infrared 251 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,080 cameras and some electromagnetic sensors. 252 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,080 Gremlin is pulling all that in and detecting events in real 253 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,920 time. We haven't found anything 254 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,640 particularly interesting yet, but there are a few interesting 255 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,120 sightings that are worth investigation. 256 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,760 OK, so they're filming you. They're bombarding you with the 257 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,480 electromagnetic sensors, infrared cameras, detecting you 258 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,440 in real time. You can imagine how much fun 259 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,120 these guys have spying on us in our backyards every single day 260 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,680 of the week. It says. 261 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,440 What does a few interesting sightings mean exactly? 262 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Interesting. From our perspective, it's not 263 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,040 obvious what the object is. It is unidentified, it has some 264 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,360 anomalous characteristics, and in these cases the object 265 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,760 appears to be moving rather quickly, but it doesn't appear 266 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,080 to be using the standard aircraft beacons. 267 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,560 There could be multiple explanations for that, so we're 268 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,960 not jumping to any conclusions, but they are worthy of further 269 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,400 investigation. Yes, sheep go back to sleep. 270 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,120 UFO groups continually demand Full disclosure, by which they 271 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,040 mean more than transparent data sharing, namely the Full 272 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,200 disclosure of putative secret evidence that Earth has been 273 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,560 visited by some form of alien intelligence. 274 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,600 For Arrow, if you come up with a head scratcher of an unknown 275 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,480 phenomena, how would you disclose that fact? 276 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,360 He says there are two things we have to consider. 277 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,400 One is the owner of the data. We would need to work with the 278 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,520 data owner to make sure that we are not revealing sensitive 279 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,560 information about sources and methods. 280 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,880 In other words, this stuff's all coming from the deep state, the 281 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,880 sources. They don't want you to know that 282 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,040 they're spying on you with satellite imagery that is 283 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,120 unbelievable. They could see you changing the 284 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,560 tire in the backyard. And I'll tell you what brand of 285 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,120 watch you're wearing while you're doing it. 286 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 I mean, the stuff is that good. We know this. 287 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,320 We know that the satellite imagery is so good that a few 288 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,520 years ago when they had the UFO sightings off the coast of 289 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,280 California, remember, the Navy came out and told us, well, we 290 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,320 can't release those pictures because if we did, it would 291 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,200 compromise security because the pictures are so good that if we 292 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,200 release those, then the Chinese and the Russians would know just 293 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,800 how effective we've become at taking pictures of stuff from 294 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,000 outer space. So they don't want you to know 295 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,400 that, and they also don't want, you know, to the level of which 296 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,080 you're being spied on and recorded every day. 297 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,560 Think about it. They've got these things in 298 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,200 space. The minute you walk out your 299 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,880 door, they can see you. And with AI, they can track you. 300 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:09,040 So I don't think it's just UFOs that they're interested in 301 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,440 tracking. But somehow, even with all this, 302 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,200 even with all of this phenomenal ability to track people, we 303 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,560 still have these really bad events happening that no one can 304 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,240 seem to take, can can stop before they happen. 305 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,079 We still have missing person cases. 306 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:27,839 We still have unsolved murder cases. 307 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Even with the ability to track everybody on the planet 24/7, 308 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,760 for some reason, whenever we go to the deep state and say, Hey, 309 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,520 can you help us with this case? Well, nothing to see here. 310 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,080 Looks like the cameras weren't working. 311 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,640 So what good are they really? What good are they? 312 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,880 He goes on and says, But putting that aside, there is nothing 313 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,560 inherently classified about an anonymous event or phenomena. 314 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,400 Really nothing inherently classified about an anomalous 315 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,160 event or phenomena. Then why do we keep, why do we 316 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,360 keep getting so many blacked out papers when it comes to asking 317 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,720 about UFOs? So we would work with our 318 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,120 leadership to document that well, study it, and then produce 319 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,120 a product that can be shared widely with the community. 320 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,520 Yep. Any time they don't want to tell 321 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,360 you the truth, it turns into a word salad. 322 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,680 There is no inherent reason why we would sit on these anomalies 323 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,320 if we did come across something truly perplexing. 324 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Well, the reason is, is because you want to continue the lie. 325 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,160 You want to continue the narrative. 326 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,760 That's the reason that you would sit on these and why you have 327 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,360 been sitting on these, on these for 7080 years. 328 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,840 Given that many Full disclosure advocates would insist that the 329 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,560 absence of evidence for alien position just further confirmed 330 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,120 a government cover up, it seems like any push you could make for 331 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,840 transparency as leader of Arrow would in some respects be doomed 332 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,960 to failure. So why take on the assignment in 333 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,320 the 1st place? Once again you get the very 334 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,360 biased opinion of this author who just obviously is is a 335 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:57,320 debunker. He should be over there on 336 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,520 Twitter with Mick West and Green Street and the rest of them 337 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,160 putting out a couple 100 tweets a day talking about how UFOs 338 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,360 aren't real anyway, he says. He says. 339 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:08,720 I love difficult scientific challenges in general. 340 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,920 I enjoy the chase of trying to understand the mystery and 341 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,560 solving puzzles. Uaps by their very nature are 342 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,840 rare events. That means data acquisition is 343 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,040 difficult and there's a sensory design challenge. 344 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:21,520 I think getting the data we need has been somewhat neglected. 345 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,920 There are groups such as Avulabs, Galileo Project that 346 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,080 are working on better data acquisition, which is fantastic, 347 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:30,200 but we in the US government could do better. 348 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,520 As a mathematician and data scientist, I enjoy pouring 349 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,160 through the data, looking for the subtle correlations and 350 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,760 teasing out the threads to identify hypothesis and get the 351 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,920 scientific method started. During that with a well called. 352 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,360 Doing that with a well called group with experts from inside 353 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:50,040 arrow as well as from across the government and hopefully 354 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,760 partying with academia too was just too good of an opportunity 355 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,480 to pass up. Yeah, so was all the fun of 356 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,800 being able to set up the most advanced surveillance system on 357 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,800 the planet. How does AERO engage academia? 358 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Right now, we are primarily focused on a few key 359 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,720 partnerships with the University of Field at Research. 360 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,640 For example, AERO worked with the Georgia Tech Research 361 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,320 Institute, a nonprofit applied research organization of Georgia 362 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Institute of Technology. What you want to see the books 363 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,240 on that thing to develop the Gremlin system? 364 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,600 Oh, yeah. It's appropriately named, I 365 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,200 think, as a UARC, The Georgia Tech Research Institute 366 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,120 partnered with Arrow because of the nature of the contractual 367 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,600 relationships. We can share the data that we 368 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,680 have. Well, sure. 369 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,320 And they can bury the data. And you'll never build a FOIA 370 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,520 because it belongs to a college and not to the US government. 371 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,280 And that's my opinion anyway. And broader engagements with 372 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,200 academia. There is a key step of down 373 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,880 grading classification to ensure we can release the information 374 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,560 that we are working on that always working on getting you 375 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,440 that unredacted page from 70 years ago. 376 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,440 Also an important partnership is the National laboratories. 377 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Oak Ridge National Laboratory, for instance, has assisted Arrow 378 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,280 with some of its material analysis. 379 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:04,040 But right now the focus has been on those few key UAR CS boy 380 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,320 that's affiliated research centers. 381 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,200 Yes. Nothing like setting up more 382 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,840 departments, more of these little boxes within boxes within 383 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,880 boxes to departmentalize and hide the facts. 384 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,920 Is it really accurate to say you're being transparent but 385 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,560 also dealing with sensitive classified data? 386 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,600 He says it's a challenge. Arrow should be as transparent 387 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280 as possible and we are working in that direction. 388 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,600 At the same time, we need to respect the sensitivities of the 389 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,320 sources and methods. There you go again. 390 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,840 Sources and methods. What are they so worried about 391 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,960 sources and methods? Well, because the source could 392 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,400 be one of these gremlin stations outside your back door and the 393 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,400 method could be eavesdropping on every single one of your 394 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,720 conversations, possibly even using some type of radar from 395 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,240 satellite based sources to appear into your house. 396 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,680 For crying out loud, 360 surveillance all the time. 397 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,760 That is the method it says. Ultimately, we are also working 398 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,560 with our partners to release as much information as possible 399 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,200 about the full context in which the data was gathered. 400 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,440 It is a time consuming process, but there are reasons why the US 401 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,840 government needs to protect these sources and methods. 402 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,320 There you go again. Sources and methods so that we 403 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,800 can't put them at risk. It's a little bit OCD going on 404 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,080 here. This whole sources and methods 405 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,840 saying that's what they want. Instead of saying sources and 406 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,600 methods, they could say power and control. 407 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,800 It's really psychopathic, this need for power and control. 408 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,560 They, they want it all. They want 100% power and 409 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,760 control. They want to leave you and I 410 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,440 with 0 power, 0 control. We're just going to be ants in 411 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,640 an Ant farm as far as they're concerned. 412 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,040 Recent reports of mysterious drones over New Jersey and else 413 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,120 elsewhere sparked a lot of public interest and discussion. 414 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,600 And I'm sure you and your Arrow colleagues were paying close 415 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 attention to what's your take on the situation? 416 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,720 Well, we know what happened. They didn't resolve anything. 417 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,960 Misidentification does account for a number of UFO sightings. 418 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,360 See that right off the bat he has to use this word 419 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,000 misidentification. Well, it must have just saw 420 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 swamp gas. Arrow has been working on 421 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,320 educational materials about common misunderstandings, such 422 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,400 as Starlink flaring, as we call it, or confusing visual 423 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,560 phenomena such as parallax. We're sharing that with the 424 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,080 public so they understand what they're looking at. 425 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,720 Yeah. Especially if it's some sort of 426 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,400 top secret program, whether by the by the deep state or whether 427 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,120 it's something that they're doing in collusion with these 428 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,680 things. They want to make sure that you 429 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,080 don't believe your own lying eyes. 430 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Specifically with the New Jersey incidents, none of those were 431 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,640 reported to Arrow as being anomalous. 432 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,440 Well, you can watch the videos yourself. 433 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,280 They look anomalous to me. Certainly many of them were 434 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,480 unidentified, whether they were drones or airplanes or other 435 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,680 objects, they weren't behaving in a way that was identified by 436 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,640 the people at the time as being anomalous. 437 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,200 So we didn't take the lead on any of those investigations, but 438 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,040 we weren't in contact with a number of federal organizations 439 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,400 offering our support. What do these guys do all day? 440 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,880 Honestly, making, what, 160 grand a year plus insurance? 441 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,640 I mean, with all the benefits and stuff, they got to be making 442 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,680 200 grand a year, right? Half of them working from home. 443 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,400 Or at least a word before Musk came along. 444 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,120 What do they do all day? Offering your support? 445 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,560 Come on, it says. Do you have any advice for true 446 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,200 believers who are convinced that aliens are visiting Earth skies? 447 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,360 True believers? That's another one of these code 448 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:35,920 words means nuts. Yeah, the people that the people 449 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,080 that have seen something and are like, wow, that was weird. 450 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,560 I can't explain that. I guess it must be unidentified, 451 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,040 he says. I don't have advice per SE. 452 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,000 I don't want to be the thought police. 453 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,840 Oh, really? I think everyone, you don't want 454 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200 to be the thought police, but you just told us that you're 455 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,720 going to educate people on why the thing that they identified 456 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,240 as an unidentified flying object was actually just a star link or 457 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,360 some kind of trick being played on their eyes. 458 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,200 But you don't want to be the thought police. 459 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,360 We want to tell you what to think about the UFO you just 460 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,960 witnessed. But I don't want to be a thought 461 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,880 police. I think everyone is welcome to 462 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,480 approach this topic however they like. 463 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,920 As I come into the subject, however, I try to approach it 464 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,880 without bias in either direction. 465 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,560 I'm open to any possibility. Sometimes an unusual event it's 466 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,480 just a sensor artifact. Sometimes just a balloon. 467 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Oh yes, always the balloons. We do have some events in our 468 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,760 holdings that are really peculiar and I don't know yet 469 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,720 what's behind them. But because we don't know what's 470 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,000 behind them, also, we can't attribute them to anything in 471 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,680 particular, and that includes extraterrestrial sources. 472 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,960 Well, how about interdimensional? 473 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,760 Any closing thoughts, it says on your primary objectives for 474 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Arrow. And how do you feel about the 475 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,440 big daunting question, Are we alone? 476 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,120 Says I it's, I'm a patient and being a data scientist, I'm also 477 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:58,520 a data hog. Oh, yeah, They like to hog the 478 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,520 data. Believe me. 479 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,160 They want, they like to hog every single one of your emails, 480 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,840 your phone conversations, video of you. 481 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,200 They like it all. I want more data, and I want it 482 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,840 quicker so that we can get to the heart of these problems. 483 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,840 It boils down to asking ourselves what type of data is 484 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,640 it going to take to prove to the scientific community beyond a 485 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,640 shadow of doubt that this anomalous phenomena was not a 486 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,520 sensor artifact? Isn't and is indeed something 487 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,760 truly peculiar, And I feel like it's going to require multiple 488 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,800 sensors gathering the same event from different perspectives at 489 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,880 the same time. Well, yeah, Don't you want that? 490 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,280 Don't you want recording devices set up all around your house? 491 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,960 My goal is for Aero to be able to enhance our national security 492 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,520 by increasing domain awareness. At that domain awareness, that 493 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,520 means just stand up, take a circle, look around. 494 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,720 That's the domain. They wouldn't be able to record 495 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,280 everything that's happening in your domain. 496 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,280 Ensuring that we understand everything that is operating in 497 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,880 space, in the air and maritime environments, as well as those 498 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,640 transmedium objects, Uaps that seemingly slip between, say, the 499 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,680 sky and the sea. Yeah, they want to. 500 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,800 They want to. They want to video it all. 501 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,720 They want to record everything. OK. 502 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,120 That's why they're protecting their sources and methods, power 503 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,960 and control. I think it's plausible that 504 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,880 there's life out there. I haven't yet seen the 505 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440 substantial evidence I need to convince me that 506 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,880 extraterrestrial life has found its way to Earth as yet, but I'm 507 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520 open to anything. Wow. 508 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Yeah, well, that's your new guy at Arrow and you can see what's 509 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,720 going on there. They're bringing this thing out. 510 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,080 This is called narrative control. 511 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,480 It's kind of this old good cop, bad cop. 512 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,960 We've had the bad cop for a while now. 513 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,200 They're going to bring out the good cop and he's going to give 514 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,680 you a a spoon fed Pooh sandwich and you can either eat it or 515 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,320 not. I guess that's up to you. 516 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Until next time, this is UFO warning over and out.