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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode we're talking 
about Tom Delong says UFOs 

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interdimensional. 
That's correct. 

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Tom Delong says UFOs 
interdimensional. 

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Now, before I get into this, I 
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there's been some changes in 
Spotify. 

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So I can't use they no longer 
offer editing software to for 

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the podcast in that, which is it
was great before and then 

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they've shipped me over to 
Riverside now and they give you 

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a free version. 
That worked OK, but then I got 

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up this morning to do the 
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whatever functionality I had 
with the free version to edit my

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podcast was just gone. 
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I want to check on a few other 
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So I decided to just rip this 
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the old days. 
Just one take and not worry 

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about any mistakes or or any of 
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Now in the background, you might
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He's laying here on the floor 
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So let's go. 
This is from market.com, the 

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first article. 
I got to tell you, the article's

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interesting, but there's like a 
whole paragraph in here. 

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Looks like it was written by 
somebody who had English for a 

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second language. 
We'll just just skip over that. 

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But it starts out saying Blink 
182 guitarist, frontman Tom 

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Delong's resume is already quite
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his music career. 
We're talking about a bonafide 

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rock star who met success at a 
very early age. 

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But amongst his many passions, 
Delong is absolutely determined 

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to prove UFOs are real. 
And he has already been involved

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in the ongoing disclosure effort
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government. 
And it goes on talks a little 

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bit about his new book coming 
out, Secret Machines. 

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It says as a part of his book 
promotion, Tom Delong offered 

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his interview to a publication 
and along his first interview in

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a publication in a long time and
he didn't talk about music at 

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all. 
Tom discussed the UFO 

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phenomenon's nature and what he 
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only these objects, but the 
nature of reality as well. 

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Delong seems to think the 
interdimensional hypothesis is a

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real way to explain his 
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He says, I think it's an 
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I think that we're dealing with 
is that the universe is kind of 

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like the mind of God, if you 
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be happening past, present and 
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simultaneously, kind of like 
that movie Everything Everywhere

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All at Once. 
I think what we're dealing with 

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are life forms that are 
traversing timelines through the

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use of artificial frequency 
variation and also biologically 

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might be able to traverse 
timelines without a credit, just

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through their, without a craft, 
rather just through their 

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consciousness. 
Yeah, we've talked about this 

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before, how these things almost 
just seem to, some people seem 

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to have the ability to call them
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I mean, we've done podcasts on 
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You've probably watched 
documentaries where these things

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seem to be manifested through 
somebody's consciousness, he 

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says, He continued. 
I think when you learn something

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that's very, very complicated. 
I have a working theory and I'm 

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not 100% on it just yet, about 
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disclosure. 
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there is a unique law of physics
or free will matters, and what 

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you think creates reality. 
Consciousness is a force that 

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flows through the human being 
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physical matter. 
So your body, your mind, your 

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being is a transducer of its 
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They're taking an energy wave 
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So you have to believe 
something, see something, think 

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something for it to be there. 
And that's quantum physics. 

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Well, maybe he's on to 
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Maybe it is that the Deep state 
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level of physics. 
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and I think it was the stealth 
bomber when they developed that 

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craft, how they had to come in 
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master's degrees and PHD's in 
physics and they had to relearn 

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new math. 
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there? 
You know, I thought you learned 

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it all when you when you got 
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Now, this next article is from 
bloody-disgusting.com. 

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That's the people he did the 
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Tom Delong talks to UFO 
phenomena and secret machines. 

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That's spelled SEKRET, or 
exclusive interview and written 

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by this gal named Michelle 
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It looks like studying Violet 
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Welcome back to DEAD TIME. 
The purpose of this column is to

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inform and entertain when 
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get you to open your mind to new
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around you. 
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someone who has been 
investigating the UFO phenomena 

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for many years, as well as 
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about what they might know about
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Tom Delong is the Co founder, Co
lead vocalist and guitarist of 

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the rock band Blink 182. 
He's also an author and UFO 

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researcher. 
In 2014, Tom founded to the 

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stars and award-winning 
entertainment company that 

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creates original content based 
on their knowledgeable 

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experiences with prestigious 
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institutions told via film, 
television and merchandise, 

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hoping to open people's minds up
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In 2017, Tom, an academic 
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co-authored the book Secret 
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The first book in the trilogy. 
Secret Machines God's Man Award 

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and investigation series at Drew
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military officials and 
intelligence officers to explore

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the UFO phenomena. 
Secret Machines War is the third

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volume in the non fiction 
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Gods of War talks about that a 
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Then it says they asked him what
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the paranormal and UFOs? 
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I think I was a kid. 
I was bored like every other kid

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was and I was stuck at home all 
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So I just really. 
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imagination. 
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that there was something bigger 
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was 100° outside. 
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outside the box about what the 
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it occurred to me that I could 
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this stuff. 
I could probably get some 

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research about this stuff. 
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the paranormal and UFOs. 
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my mind up to nature and what it
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might potentially be. 
Got some pretty big thoughts for

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a little kid, goes on. 
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What inspired you to start the 
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book? 
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really long time. 
I was putting a lot of puzzle 

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pieces together over the past 30
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we're doing about them and what 
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how they have affected not only 
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So I felt that the biggest way 
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these things to people would be 
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can cram a lot more information 
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with these things through art 
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So they're trying to get someone
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He laughs. 
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learn a lot more from a 
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class at school for months on 
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There might be some truth to 
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what's really happening is a 
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put forward whatever kind of 
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pictures. 
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It says you've applied science 
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What are your thoughts on the 
interdimensional hypothesis as a

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possible explanation of UFOs? 
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absolute. 
I think what we're dealing with 

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is that the universe is kind of 
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will, and all things that could 
be happening past, present and 

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future are happening 
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Kind of like that movie 
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Once. 
It's all happening, and the only

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separation through all these 
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which we vibrate as humans or 
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us. 
But if we were to change the 

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vibration of ourselves, say we 
built a craft that could change 

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the frequency with massive 
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probably tune into different 
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different timelines, like a 
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when we would tune into 
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cars. 
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I, I have a hard time 
understanding how the past could

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still be there, though. 
It seems like it just evaporates

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as it goes along, he says. 
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with are life forms that are 
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use of artificial frequency 
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might be able to diverse 
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through their consciousness. 
Now he's calling these things 

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life forms and biological, and I
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kind of hedge his bets so he 
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spiritual thing. 
He says, So I think that's kind 

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of like when you get into more 
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are all these things, what we 
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I think it's things that are 
bleeding through the 

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frequencies. 
He goes on and says, let's talk 

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about the new book, Secret 
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He says, I was able to go 
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knew and then kind of flying by 
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ways to communicate some of 
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But I didn't really get into the
UFO subject until I met them, 

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made friends with them and they 
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I also knew that there were a 
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where I couldn't ask him about 
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And this is kind of Tom's back 
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I don't know where he says he 
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in touch people that knew things
about UFOs and then just kind of

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talked his way into that group 
and made this collection and 

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friends this network. 
And that's how he gained all 

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this access. 
I, I don't know UFO subject 

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until I met him. 
He said made friends with him 

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and they kind of trusted me. 
I also knew that they were a 

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lot, that there were a lot of 
rules on this stuff where I 

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couldn't ask them about about 
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I didn't go into this area, so I
made them feel comfortable being

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around me. 
My whole goal was to basically 

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get a group of people together 
that could set at one table and 

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all bounce ideas off each other.
I was pretty aware that I don't 

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think too many people in the 
government really know the 

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entire big picture. 
I think we're dealing with 

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something that's very, very 
complicated. 

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But I definitely know they know 
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So my main goal was to make 
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then to actually execute on the 
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That sounds like the recipe for 
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I don't know the people at Tom 
even met you. 

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I think the real people that 
know what what's going on with 

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this stuff are the ones behind 
the scenes, the ones that nobody

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even knows of. 
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I have a working theory that I'm
not 100% on just yet about why 

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there hasn't been disclosure. 
What I'm leaning toward is that 

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there is a unique law of physics
where free will matters, and 

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what you think creates reality. 
Consciousness is a force that 

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flows through the human being, 
and it is then created into 

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physical matter. 
So your body, your mind, your 

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entire being as a transducer of 
its environment, you're taking 

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an energy wave and turning it 
into a particle. 

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So you have to believe 
something, see something, think 

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something for it to be there. 
And that's quantum physics. 

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And if everyone knew that UFOs 
are real, that might make it a 

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lot easier for that force to 
come through. 

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Maybe that could be a reason at 
the end of the day that you 

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don't want everyone to know 
about it, you know? 

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He laughs. 
The worst case scenario is that 

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we all believe in an evil and 
that an evil manifest. 

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I'm not saying that all UFOs are
evil, but I'm definitely saying 

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a lot of them are and not in the
normal type of evil, but in the 

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more different and after its own
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And that could be very harmful 
to humans beings and what we are

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trying to achieve in this 
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Well, he could be on to 
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Maybe this whole thing. 
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effect in quantum physics where 
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atoms, they tweak one, the other
one does something or the the 

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state only assumes itself when 
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It's dependent upon the 
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Well, how would this inanimate 
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observing at it? 
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have this textbook image of an 
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neutrons flying around it. 
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compact, quite small, but we 
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things can be stretched way, way
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And so actually the human body 
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it's just like this collection 
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together by this magnetic force 
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at the that's why radio waves go
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And so maybe if you're on the 
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frequency, Kenneth? 
You can just do all sorts of 

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things, you know, like he says, 
manifest stuff, create stuff, 

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whatever. 
As far as these UFOs being evil,

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a lot of them are. 
I mean, have to think so because

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look at the cattle mutilation 
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there, these poor animals just 
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Look at the people being taken 
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all kinds of procedures done on 
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implants put in them. 
So yes, I think there is a level

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of evilness with some of these 
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And like he's saying, you think 
is think of this observer 

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effect, you know, kind of in 
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If everybody starts looking for 
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believing for them, it could 
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porthole. 
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goodies or the baddies? 
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He goes on and says that 
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about. 
That's the goal. 

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The simple answer to why it's 
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it's all wrapped up with high 
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And so does Russia and so does 
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Yeah, I'm not so sure about 
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I mean, maybe they have it, but 
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And our worst fear is to 
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that we can't win because they 
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something better than us. 
Also, we have the UFO phenomena 

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that we poorly understand and we
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that we don't fully trust. 
So there's a lot to deal with in

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this enigma. 
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think about, you know, the 
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recognize these things in the 
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I think some of the Native 
American tradition is don't talk

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about Bigfoot, don't talk about 
the skin Walker because you 

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might just manifest it by 
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There could be something to 
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It says you founded, talks about
the stars of Academy a little 

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bit, not really that interested 
in that, and talks about a 

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couple shows that he's seen. 
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about what are your thoughts on 
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He says, I think synchronicities
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consciousness. 
I think that it takes a human 

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and observer to imprint physical
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So everything is just an energy 
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that energy wave into a thought,
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physical object. 
You're thinking about something 

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and it's keeping you up at night
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It's going to start to appear in
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It's going to start to manifest 
because that's just how reality 

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works. 
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people doing that, it's going to
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place. 
What gets tricky is there are 

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forces of intelligence that are 
trying to do that for you, to 

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trick you to think of something 
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you to start being paranoid 
about something so that you 

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manifest things that scare you 
even more and eventually they 

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get something out of it. 
So I think there is something to

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that line of thinking. 
Well, yeah, this whole thing of 

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synchronicities is an 
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We'll have to do a podcast on 
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Overall, I thought it was a good
interview with Tom Delonge. 

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Like I said, I've been pretty 
critical critical of this guy in

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the past. 
I still have a lot of things, 

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but he brings up some really 
interesting things about this 

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whole concept of UFOs and 
whether just the act of looking 

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for them helps them to manifest.
And then we have to be careful. 

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Are we getting the good ones or 
the bad ones? 

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I don't know. 
Really, really cool stuff. 

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Until next time. 
This is UFO warning over and 

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out.
