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Hello and welcome to the 
program. 

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You have a warning in this 
episode we're talking about 

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Bigfoot bones. 
That's correct. 

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Bigfoot bones. 
You know, a lot of people when 

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we talk about Bigfoot say, well,
why haven't we found any bones? 

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Well, maybe we haven't found 
bones of Bigfoot, but maybe we 

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found some bones that were 
chewed on by Bigfoot. 

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Kind of an interesting thought. 
I found this article over at 

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chromeline.com talking about 
these Bigfoot bones or bones 

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rather that were possibly not on
by Bigfoot around the Saint 

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Helens area. 
The article says proof of 

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Bigfoot is in the bones. 
Winlock Man says and that's got 

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a picture here, several pictures
actually these these bone 

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fragments that look like they've
been just had chunks spitting 

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out of almost like, you know, if
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or something, It says in the 
picture, it says this photo 

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shows a bone with human like 
teeth imprints, including a 

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front incisor and lateral 
incisor. 

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The research compiled by 
Mitchell Townsend, it shows the 

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bite ratio is 2 1/2 times larger
than that of a human. 

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So that would be an awful big 
bite. 

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I mean 2 1/2 times the size of a
human and you just to bite 

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straight through his bone 
cleanly like I said, like it's 

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just like a bite of an apple or 
something. 

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This article is written by 
Justina Tomatis. 

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I think it says May 14th, 2015 
is a mystery of Bigfoot's 

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existence finally solved. 
One Centralia College instructor

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said he has discovered 
scientific evidence that proves 

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the creatures existence. 
He believes the information will

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be one of the biggest scientific
finds of the century. 

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Mitchell Townsend, a Winlock 
resident and teacher in the 

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college's continuing education 
program, said he was walking 

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through the woods near Rhine 
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he came across a stack of bones.
The find itself was unusual 

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since predators typically 
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he said. 
Upon further inspection, he 

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noticed large human like teeth 
imprints in the bones. 

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I got to looking at the bones 
and they had been knawed on, but

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what looked to me to be giant 
human teeth. 

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He said. 
After two of his students from 

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Lower Columbia College found two
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South side of Mount Saint 
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the kill sites were similar in a
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The bone stacking technique is 
specific to a humanoid and was 

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cited as human behavior, he 
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Well, I I think they're missing 
the point here. 

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Human is not the same thing as 
humanoid. 

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Again, human like teeth imprints
were notched into the bones. 

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Yeah, human like is not human. 
This sounds really weird to me. 

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No predator impressions or tool 
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and after consulting with the 
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Townsend said all natural 
predators in the area were ruled

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out. 
The two additional sites located

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by his students shed more light 
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the activity. 
The trio found footprints with a

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length of 16 inches. 
He claims height, weight and 

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proportion calculations paired 
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between steps conferred. 
The creature had to be about 8 

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feet 8 inches tall. 
Although the footprints looked 

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human, they had a much wider and
broader profile and did not have

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an arch, so they look similar to
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I wouldn't even say if they 
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There's no arch. 
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an 8 foot 8 inch tall creature 
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different areas of Mount Saint 
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chewing them up, literally, skin
and bones and all, and spitting 

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them out between his legs. 
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The teeth Marks and the bone 
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impressions of incisors and 
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were beyond the range of human 
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As for the mouth size, the bite 
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times wider than that of a 
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The bones also showed dental 
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chewing strategies from ancient 
caveman, including bone peeling,

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he said. 
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do that because of the shape of 
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jaw, so we have to gnaw at the 
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A double arch structure also 
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related to the Neanderthals and 
the molars left triangle 

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impressions as opposed to 
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chimpanzee would leave, he said 
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professor said was forensic 
dental evidence and behavioural 

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evidence showing the massive 
creature is part human. 

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Now, to me, they're making a 
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His discovery aims to prove 
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species living in the area of 
Mount Saint Helens that derive 

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from the breeding of Native 
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Now, to me, you've taken a, 
you've taken a giant leap there 

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when you're saying, well, 
because the saying looks similar

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to a human, it has bite marks 
that are similar to humans, only

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2 1/2 times the size. 
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situation where Native Americans
interbred with some kind of a 

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giant ape. 
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that the human and, and ape DNA 
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that. 
My theory is it's not an ape. 

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It's a hybrid that has been 
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Americans for the last 80,000 
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That's why it's so smart and it 
has human teeth. 

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Talents information will be 
published in a research paper 

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and he challenges the scientific
community to discredit his 

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information. 
He said the four year project 

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helped solve the mystery because
the focus was based on forensic 

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evidence. 
The information used was heavily

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based on comparison proof from 
the top scientists in the world.

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The evidence stands on its own. 
You proved the evidence wrong, 

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he said, adding that the bones 
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examination to any scientist who
wanted to examine their remains.

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We put thousands of hours into 
this. 

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We just want to give this to the
world and the scientific 

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community free of charge to add 
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knowledge. 
That's interesting. 

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I have heard about this story 
before, but I never really 

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seemed to get much traction with
this idea that we have these 

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bones that have been located 
that look like they've got these

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bite marks. 
From what would be Bigfoot, very

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similar to what we could imagine
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Now I don't think that means 
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or anything like that. 
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resemble humans. 
They also resemble apes and 

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chimpanzees, but only on a much 
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Now this whole area around Saint
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lot of history with Bigfoot. 
If we go on this next article, 

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take a look at this. 
I found this over at TWRP. s.com

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at Columbian County Historian 
homepage talks about this 

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encounter that happened in 1924.
Bigfoot 1924 Strange animal 

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scene. 
A story that rivals the most 

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spine tingling tales of fiction 
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Washington as well as this 
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curiosity and speculation as to 
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It is a story of an encounter 
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creatures at the base of Mount 
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Muddy River, 8 miles from Spirit
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The men who brought the story to
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son Ray Lexington and Fred Beck 
and Joe Peterson who have been 

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prospecting in the walls of 
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past six years. 
Boy, some tough guys out there 

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prospecting for six years, I 
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representative of the Castonian.
The story by Marion Smith is 

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reproduced word for word, quote.
We have been prospecting there 

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for six years. 
About 16 days ago, Becca myself 

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saw one of these animals peeking
from behind a tree at a distance

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of about 100 yards. 
We fired and I think I hit it in

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the head. 
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And curious to know the nature 
of the animal, we crossed an an 

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intervening Canyon, but he had 
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tree. 
We noticed large tracks from 13 

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to 14 inches long and resembling
those of a man, and I warned my 

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son to carry a rifle wherever he
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We had seen these tracks in 
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to investigate. 
We came in for the 4th, but said

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nothing to any one of our 
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Wednesday, while we were at the 
mine, Roy went to the spring for

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water, carrying only a revolver.
As he was returning he heard a 

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cracking in the altars, and 
turning, saw one of the animals 

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charging out of the woods at 
him, waving his arms over his 

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head and striking his chest. 
He farted it with a pistol, the 

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animal coming with his feet 
within feet of him, before it 

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turned back into the woods. 
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hurried back to camp. 
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encountered another of the 
animals as they were going to 

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the cabin. 
They fired at it and Peterson 

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ran out of the cabin with his 
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Between them. 
They fired 16 shots, the final 

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shot by Beck apparently striking
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the edge of the Canyon. 
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we could only have gotten down 
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I heard the animal fall and 
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so steep I couldn't see the 
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Wow. 
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startled out of our sleep by 
rocks falling through the hole 

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in the roof of our cabin, which 
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The bombardment continued until 
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insisted on building a large 
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animals, which pushed against 
the door and made a great deal 

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of noise around the cabin, 
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It was a terrifying experience. 
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and I advised not to shoot so 
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ammunition in case they broke in
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We were glad to start home. 
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located our claim, we saw the 
strange 4 toed tracks with their

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toes short and stubby and almost
square across and have seen them

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several times since. 
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animals sought to enter our tent
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tent in the morning. 
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around the cabin were being 
combed with hunters for the 

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strange creatures, but so far no
report has been heard from the 

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hunters. 
Various explanations for their 

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presence have been advanced and 
many in Kelso have ventured to 

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say that the story is a product 
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The miners insist, however, that
they saw the creatures and their

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stories are given some support 
from old timers who have heard 

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of the giant creatures that are 
said to inhabit the country 

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there. 
The story was given full 

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credence by a member of the 
Callum tribe at Oakland, 

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Washington this week with the 
appearance of a lengthy article 

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describing the little known 
Seatac Indians, which are said 

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to be a skeleton in the 
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Because the more advanced 
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been ashamed of the Seatacs, 
they have kept the secret of the

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existence of this half animal 
tribe. 

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Descriptions given of these 
strange Indians tally in every 

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respect with what the miners 
said about them. 

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Indians in the Washington 
country, however, are skeptical 

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about the success that awaits 
the hunters, as their habits are

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so uncanny that it is a foregone
conclusion that they will not be

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seen. 
The story is being thoroughly 

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investigated by game officials 
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and the territory in which the 
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Wow, that's really a crazy 
story, isn't it? 

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It says, and then it goes on 
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It says. 
Doctor DF Howard pioneer Stella 

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Washington was in Rainier 
Tuesday and Wednesday and paid 

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the review office a call telling
of a tribe known as Acetics, 

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which are which are below the 
average Northwest Indian in many

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respects and which have almost 
never been mentioned in this 

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article. 
It claimed that the Acetics 

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stand fully 7 feet in height and
have some and some have been 

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said to be 8 feet. 
Their bodies are covered with 

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hair giving the appearance of 
huge bears. 

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They said that these Indians 
take 12 lives for each of the 

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lives taken in their tribe, 
which might bear out the 

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statement that the animals 
returned and stone the camp and 

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stone the cabin after it was 
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been killed by the miners. 
Well, I guess they they weren't 

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successful. 
This is kind of strange to me 

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how it, you know it in this 
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some people think these things 
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developed out of interbreeding 
between Native Americans and 

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some kind of ape population. 
Or maybe they were just some 

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kind of a backward Native 
American tribe. 

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I don't really see that myself. 
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are mostly interdimensional, but
maybe kind of phase in and out 

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of this dimension and they do 
eat because otherwise how do you

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explain these things? 
Being able to take a bullet to 

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the head and, and, and not die 
or falling off a Cliff and not 

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dying. 
It's, it's this really kind of 

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Gray area that they seem to 
occupy. 

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But that was the count from 
1924. 

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And of course we had the count 
there talking about these bones 

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that have been knotted on. 
And then I look at this one last

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article talking about these 
Bigfoot found in and around 

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Mount Saint Helens. 
This seems like such a strange 

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place, even after the volcano 
happened. 

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This article is from 
sasquatchthelegend.com, dated 

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April 14th, 2023. 
Says what really happened on 

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mountain St. 
Helens. 

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Of all the Sasquatch legends 
originating in the Pacific 

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Northwest, there's one in 
particular that has captured the

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imagination of just about 
everyone who has heard it. 

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It's a tantalizing tale of 
exploding volcanoes, giant hairy

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beings, shadowy government 
figures, mysterious helicopter 

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evacuations and more. 
Of course, there's all this idea

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that when that volcano erupted, 
you know, devastated thousands, 

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I suppose, acres of land. 
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the wildlife was there, I mean, 
burned up, covered in mud slides

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and whatnot. 
And why haven't we found any 

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Bigfoot that might have been in 
that area also killed? 

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He says the story begins on May 
18th, 1980, when Washington's 

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mountain St. 
Helens, one of the most 

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beautiful peaks in the Cascade 
Range, exploded in a 

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catastrophic eruption, killing 
dozens of people and thousands 

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of animals and rain, destructive
rocks, ash and debris across the

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region. 
After the eruption, a thick flow

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of ash, mud and fallen trees 
choked the rivers and streams 

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and smothered what had once been
a healthy forest. 

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The US Army Corps Engineer and 
the National Guard were called 

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upon to help in the rescue and 
recovery operations. 

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While the hard working men and 
women from these organizations 

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worked to recover the bodies of 
deer, elk, bear and other 

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animals, it is said they also 
came across the bodies of two 

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Sasquatch. 
These bodies were set aside, 

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covered with tarps and guarded 
by armed men and witnesses were 

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warned to keep quiet. 
Not all the Sasquatch found on 

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Mount Saint Helens were dead, 
however. 

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One purported witness stated 
that he and other men were told 

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to follow a very large, hairy 
man like creature with a sad 

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demeanor and a burned arm into 
the forest. 

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They stopped at several isolated
rocky areas with caves, and each

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time they stopped the creature 
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Sometimes there would be no 
answers at all, while other 

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times a second creature would 
respond with the same sound. 

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Using this method, the rescuers 
were able to locate some badly 

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burned Sasquatch, who were then 
brought to the camp for medical 

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attention. 
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end of the rescue mission, there
was a debriefing during which 

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the witnesses were told that the
Bigfoot creatures lived in the 

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forest and just wanted to be 
left alone. 

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They were asked to keep quiet in
order to protect the few 

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creatures that were left. 
Another supposed participant of 

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this post eruption rescue 
mission stated that his Air 

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Force unit was sent to Mount 
Saint Helen's area to help with 

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the devastation. 
They were issued M sixteens and 

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Green Helmet Smart Guard and 
were told to protect some of the

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military's medical tents and to 
prevent unauthorized people from

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entering the tents. 
The witness said he saw doctors 

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guiding unusually tall people or
creatures wrapped in overcoats 

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with their heads covered into 
the medical tent. 

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The injured beings were always 
covered with clothing and 

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bandages so that their faces and
hands could not be seen. 

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It was a mystery to the men what
they were guarding, but they 

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were told that they were 
guarding victims of the eruption

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and not to ask any questions. 
In most versions of the story, 

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the rescuers completed their 
missions and moved on without 

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ever finding out what happened 
to the beings involved. 

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Some accounts indicated that the
beings were relocated to other 

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parts of the Cascades, while 
others say that the beings were 

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given a home on a military base,
Joint Base Lewis McCord, that 

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encompasses over 86,000 acres of
mostly forced to terrain in the 

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South Puget Sound region. 
What exactly happened on Mount 

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Saint Helens following the 
eruption or burn? 

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Sasquatch beings really 
discovered and cared for by 

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members of the military, where 
they disguised as humans, 

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wrapped in large coats and 
brought to makeshift hospitals 

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for care. 
Many versions of the story exist

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online in various publications, 
videos, documentary films, 

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etcetera. 
But hard evidence proving this 

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these events actually took place
has proven difficult to find. 

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We may never have the full 
details of this account, but the

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story lives on as one of the 
most captivating Bigfoot tales 

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of all time. 
Yeah, like a lot of these 

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stories, so much time passes 
that it just kind of transitions

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into legend status, at which 
point it never has to be 

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addressed by the government. 
I did look into a couple 

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articles we were talking about 
people try to FOIA this stuff 

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and they were just told, yeah, 
we don't have anything on this. 

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But there's so many different 
stories about Bigfoot here and 

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in Mount Saint Helens area. 
It's just, it's just mind 

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boggling to me. 
I'll just finish off with this 

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last short story from the Mount 
Saint Helens concerning Bigfoot 

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this is titled the legend of Jim
Carter chased off mount Saint 

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Helen by sasquatch's ape Canyon 
holds unresolved mystery is a 

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subtitle the Longview WA times 
stated August 1963 I found this 

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on the site was at 
newschoolers.com Spirit Lake, 

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mount Saint Helens, Washington 
is a dateline ape Canyon, the 

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legendary home of the Harry apes
of mount Saint Helens apparently

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swallowed and experienced 
Mountaineer and expert skier. 

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In May 1950, no trace of Jim 
Carter, 32, disappeared from a 

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20 member climbing party from 
Seattle was found, although 

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teams of the Northwest Most 
Proficient Mountain Rescue units

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combed the area for weeks. 
Carter's complete disappearance 

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is an unsolved mystery to this 
day, declared Bob Lee, well 

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known Portland Mountaineer who 
is a member of the exclusive 

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Worldwide Alpine Club. 
A leader of the 1961 Himalayan 

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Expedition and advisor to the 
1963 American Expedition, Lee 

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said he had never seen one of 
the monsters, but that there 

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certainly was evidence that 
there was something strange on 

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the high slopes of the mountain.
He was convinced of this during 

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the search for Carter, he said. 
Doctor Otter Trot Lee Stark and 

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I finally came to the conclusion
that the Mountain Devils got 

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him, said Lee. 
Seriously. 

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Lee, a member of the Seattle 
Mountain Search and Rescue Unit 

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at the time, describes the hunt 
for Carter and Ape Canyon as the

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most eerie experience I've ever 
heard. 

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There's some of these things 
being spotted that are actually 

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naming areas after them. 
Ape Canyon. 

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He said that every time he got 
cut off from the West of the 

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Searchers during the long hunt, 
he got the feeling that somebody

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was watching me. 
I could feel the hair on the 

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back of my neck standing up. 
It was eerie. 

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I was unarmed except for my ice 
axe, and believe me, I never let

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go of that. 
At this point in Lee's story, I 

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could feel my own hair standing 
up a bit, ready to shoulder 

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packs for a step for Safari to 
Ape Canyon to try to determine 

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whether there's any truth to ape
stories. 

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I began to feel a little dubious
about the whole expedition. 

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The rest of Lee's tale about the
Seattle man's disappearance 

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didn't do much to reassure me. 
It seems that the missing man, 

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Carter, had climbed Mount Saint 
Helens with a group from Seattle

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on a warm, clear Sunday. 
On the way down the mountain, he

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left the other climbers near a 
landmark called Dog's Head at 

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the 8000 foot level. 
Now, this is something that 

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David Pillai is always talks 
about. 

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His Missing 4, his Missing 411 
series, he always talks about 

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the same. 
He helps point separation, be a 

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group of people. 
One of them splits off and 

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that's usually not a good sign 
and but we have it right here. 

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Carter told him he would ski 
around to the left and take a 

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picture of the group as they 
skied down to the timberline. 

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That was the last time that 
anyone saw Carter. 

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The next morning, searchers 
found a discarded film box at 

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the point where he had taken a 
picture. 

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From here, Carter evidently took
off down the mountain in a wild 

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death defying dash, taking no 
chances that skiers of his 

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caliber would take unless 
something was terribly wrong or 

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he was being pursued, says Lee, 
who was one of the first 

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searchers to reach Carter's ski 
tracks. 

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Now First off, I have questions 
why this guy decided he needed 

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to go down to the bottom of the 
mountain and photograph these 

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guys as they came down. 
And then secondly, they talked 

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about him just going down this 
mountain at a high rate of 

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speed. 
Was he being chased by 

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something? 
Was he being drawn to some point

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telepathically? 
More of this weird, weird 

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behavior that often takes place 
around these points of 

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separation that Politis is 
always talking about goes on 

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down here. 
He says he jumped over two or 

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three large crevices and 
evidently was going like the 

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devil. 
When Carter's tracks reached the

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precipitous sides have 8 Canyon,
the structures were amazed to 

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see that Carter had been in such
a hurry that he went right down 

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the steep Canyon walls. 
But they did not find him at the

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bottom of the Canyon as he 
expected. 

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So imagine this guy flying off 
the side of this mountain at 

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high speed, but there's no body.
We come the Canyon one end to 

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the other for five days. 
Sometimes there were as many as 

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75 persons in the search party, 
but no sign of Carter or his 

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equipment was found, Lee said. 
After two weeks, the church was 

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called off. 
Lee, who has lived in the 

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Northwest most of his life, 
recalls there are about 25 

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different reports of people 
attacked by ape like men in the 

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Saint Helens and Cascade areas 
over a 20 year period. 

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One was a group of Boy Scouts 
from Centralia. 

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He said. 
Couldn't we check on that story?

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As near as he could remember, 
several of the boys who were 

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taken off the mountain were 
hysterical after being attacked 

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by mountain devils. 
Director Dick Whitney of the 

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original Boy Scouts office in 
Olympia, WA promised to look for

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a record of the incident. 
To our surprise, he called back 

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to say that he had located the 
name of the leader and the troop

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involved in the incident. 
It was a troop under the late 

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Scout Master Peace from 
Centralia. 

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He said that's spelled P/E ASE 
when he promised to have Peace's

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son, who works for the state of 
Washington, call the Journal as 

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soon as he returns from 
vacation. 

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I'm not seeing any follow up 
here. 

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Miners, Scouts, Mountaineers and
most recently, an editor of 

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other reliable Portland 
residents. 

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The list of persons who have 
seen the Harry Apes at Mount 

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Saint Helens is very impressive.
This, of course, is the Longview

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Times dated 1963. 
It says, wow. 

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And then it's got a 1924 says 
that Prospector shot and killed 

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Bigfoot Nape Canyon that I 
believe was the one we just 

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talked about. 
And, well, the Bigfoot was shot 

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in the head, but no body, of 
course, was ever recovered. 

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Yeah, back to this missing 
hiker, though. 

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This is so puzzling to me, and 
it's such a strange case. 

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It reminds me so much of the 
ones that Dave Plitus talks 

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about where people are going on 
this group outing and then for 

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some inexplicable reason, a 
person decides that, hey, I'm 

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going to do this or I'm going to
do that. 

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Almost like they're being called
away and they give some kind of 

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feeble excuse and they take off.
And at this point of separation,

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and then sometimes they track 
them to the, it's almost like 

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they just disappear into thin 
air. 

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Well, in this one here, he kind 
of did if he just really skis 

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off the edge of this Canyon. 
But then you would expect to 

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find the body at the bottom of 
the Canyon. 

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Like they said, they searched 
for five days, found nothing and

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at the same time of this whole 
backdrop, this area, we have 

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multiple reports of what we 
would call now today, Bigfoot. 

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Very, very strange things 
indeed. 

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Some really cool different 
sightings and stories 

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surrounding the whole Bigfoot 
legend out there in and around 

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Mount Saint Helen. 
Fitting clear back from 1924 

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through the 50s after the 
eruption period and then with 

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these bones that were found what
early 2010, 2015 with these 

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human like bite impressions out 
of them. 

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Lots of cool evidence for 
Bigfoot in Washington state. 

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Until next time, this is UFO 
warning over and out.

