Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode we're talking about Navy shot down UFO orb.
That's correct, Navy shot down UFO orb.
At least that is the accusation coming out from a 1962 missile
test. Now, this story has been
bubbling up from the surface for, I don't know, probably six
months or so at least. This article came out today
though on dailymail.co dot Uki think it's worth covering
because not only is it a really cool story, but it does involve
some of the made members of the UFO mafia.
And it's just curious to me to see how these guys always seem
to be entangled with each other. Not sure if this is accurate,
what they're talking about, this thing being shot down.
We're going to look at both sides of the issue.
Or if this is just another limited hangout for the deep
state. It always seems like the actors
involved are people that are career intelligence or career
military. Now like I said, article comes
from dailymail.co.uk written by Josh Boswell.
The date on this is March 24th, 24th, 2025.
Says an orb UFO was shot out of the sky and retrieved by the US
Navy during a 1962 missile test. A former top aide to to four US
presidents revealed Harold Mount Malmgren.
That's spelled MALMGREN was a senior advisor to John F
Kennedy, Lyndon B Johnson, Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.
The retired government official said he was briefed by top CIA
and Atomic Energy Commission officials on a videotape missile
test that took place during the Cuban Missile Crisis of October
1962, during which the shocking UFO incident occurred.
Malmgren's daughter, economist Dr. PIPA Malmgren, herself a
former special assistant to President George W Bush,
revealed the details of her father's story on a blog last
week after the veteran presidential aide passed away on
February 13th, aged 89. So do you see what's going on
here? It's almost like these high
level government officials, it's generational man.
She said before his death, her father had recently decided to
tell his full story for the sake of history.
So this guy's passed away. We really can't go back and
cross examine him. Harold described a video of a
missile test launch from October 25th, 1962 in which a mysterious
white orb can be seen flying in circles around the rocket as it
speeds through the air. The missile was equipped with
what Pippa describes as an X-ray machine in the nose cone,
designed to use radiation to disable an incoming nuclear
missile. But the missiles intense X-ray
burst appeared to disable the UFO too, as long as says the
X-rays knocked it out of the sky.
The US Navy retrieved the orb out of the ocean, Pippa wrote in
her March 18th blog post recounting her father's story.
And it wasn't the first time an orb had been spotted chasing AUS
missile, according to Harold. We called them Tagalongs, Harold
said, according to the blog post.
We knocked the tagalong out of the sky.
Pippa said her father was briefed on the incident because
he was in charge of the budget for the missile testing program
as a top White House and Pentagon official.
Before my father recently passed away, he went on record
explaining what he knew about all this because he felt it was
important for the sake of history, she said.
Harold, who was active on social media site X even in his final
months, alluded to the incident in a tweet last August.
We'll go over that here in a minute. 60 plus years ago I was
provided highest level classifications to lead DoD
Department of Defense work on nuclear weapons and anti missile
defense. He wrote and formally briefed on
other world technologies by CI as Richard Bissell who had been
in charge of Skunk Works, Area 51, Los Alamos, etcetera, but
sworn to secrecy. Then it says Bissell briefed me
off the record after his resignation as CIA Deputy
Director OPS. He felt I needed a heads up in
case the subject ever came up in my meetings with Presidents or
others. I swore secrecy to him.
Not under any law. This sounds a little sketchy, I
have to say. Sharing his top secret
information, like on a personal basis.
But it is though on some level very believable to me.
Pippa wrote on her blog that her father told her he was also
briefed in 1963 by then regional chief of the Atomic Energy
Commission, Lawrence Preston Geiss.
Dice also happens to be the grandfather of Jeff Bezos,
billionaire founder of Amazon and space travel company Blue
Origin. But like I said, you hear these
stories about, oh, they just brought themselves up from the
from the bootstraps to become multi billionaires.
Maybe, maybe some of these guys though, tapped into some
generational wealth. I don't know.
It was at that meeting, Mel Grimm claimed, that he got his
hands on a piece of the alleged otherworldly craft and had an
out of this world experience. He flew out to Albuquerque to be
briefed. Peeper Pepper wrote, adding dice
apparently received materials from the crashed craft.
He kept them on his desk, handed them to my dad, and then asked
him to describe how he felt. Dad said.
A voice began talking to him inside his head.
That's all guys wanted to know. That sounds strange to me, man.
So you're keeping the stuff on your desk.
If that's true, how disturbing is that?
You have this government employee who has come into
possession of a, of some meta material from a UFO, and instead
of having this stuff kept securely locked away somewhere,
they've got sitting on their desk and the stuff has some kind
of property. If you can speak telepathically
to whatever this, whatever, this voice is interdimensional, I
don't know, alien, demonic, you pick it.
I don't know, says Dad never recalled or would not say what
that voice said. Apparently he said some people
interact with the materials and others don't.
This led to briefings at Los Alamos and an invitation from
Richard Bissell. So maybe they're just trying to
find the people that are able to telepathically communicate with
these things. Then it has some weather
observation logs here. It looks like Harold told his
daughter that. Then President John F Kennedy
and Vice President Johnson received their own raft of
highly classified briefings about the incident on December
7th, 1962 at Strategic Air Command Headquarters and off at
Air Force Base in Nebraska, the Los Alamos National Laboratory
in New Mexico, Kirtland Air Force Base and Sandia National
Laboratories in Albuquerque. She claims it was this incident
that spurred JFK's historic de escalation talks with Soviet
Union leader Nikita Khrushchev. The reason JFK reached out to
Khrushchev and commenced arms limitation talks was because he
was made aware by America's top government scientist that Uaps
identified anomalous phenomena were appearing and even being
brought down in anti ballistic missile tests, Peeper wrote.
Specifically, JFK was briefed in three locations on December 7th,
1962, including Los Alamos, about a missile test operation,
Bluegill Triple Prime, and became aware that this brought a
UAP down and confirmed that we are not alone in this universe.
My father confirmed to me and others that we learned something
from the UFO crash, the former White House advisor wrote.
He said we learned that these strange craft were susceptible
to X-rays. That was another reason we were
testing X-rays at high latitudes.
The extraordinary story is partially backed up by
government records dugout by former Australian intelligence
official turned UFO researcher Jeff Khrushchenk, who published
last December on UFO news site Liberation Times.
Khrushchenk noted a Cold War experimental warhead, the XW
50X1, which was built to emit high energy X-rays designed to
disabled missile re entry vehicles by causing intense heat
and internal damage, which fits Harold's description.
Wow, that's really something else.
It goes on here it says. Khrushchev also pointed to now
declassified videos showing October 26th, 1962 high altitude
test explosion of a nuclear bomb over the Pacific Ocean near
Johnston Island. An apparent object can be seen
tumbling out of the nuclear fireball in the footage.
He wrote that a later version of the video was redacted by
officials at Los Alamos Lab, with a white triangle obscuring
the region where the falling object appeared.
And it's not something, yeah, I think that might have been the
one I was thinking of. Two weeks earlier, on September
19th, 1962, another UFO was filmed travelling at 18 times
the speed of sound following an AFCO Mark 4 missile for 90
seconds as it descended through the sky after a launch from the
Atlantic Missile Range off the coast of Cape Canaveral, FL.
An index card with the video records it as a UFO sighting
shows missile in flight then breaking U camera holding on
nose cone with smaller object in flight above and behind nose
cone on parallel path. The card says following the
October 1962 bluegill test, Navy ships were sent to retrieve
debris. Chris Shank reported that deck
logs preserved by the National Archives say some of the debris
was anomalous. Logs from 2 accompanying ships,
the USS Engage and the USS John S McCain, recorded picking up an
experimental pod as well as a black ball in the water A and a
green tube. The logs said the tube had a
radiation measurement of 60 Miller Rongen.
That's MAILI Miller ROENTGN for all youth physicists out there
from a distance of 1 foot, which is a safe but elevated level,
suggesting it had been near a nuclear event sounds very
concerning. The crew of 1 ship USS Point
Barrel reported unusually high radiation exposure levels after
the recovery mission according to logs from other ships.
But Point Barrels own logs are mysteriously missing from the
archives through a Shank road. Now how convenient.
I guess if it isn't fit the narrative, it's just gone.
So that's kind of the one side of it.
Very strange stuff. There was a a pretty detailed
copy of his of this Harold Malmgren's post on Twitter's
interview that was done. I found it over at Joe Murguia.
It's at the UFO Joe at the UFO Joe.
You can go find it there. It's quite lengthy.
So what I did in the interest of time was I just asked chat GP to
go ahead and write up a short summary of that interview.
Save us a little time because it'd take probably 20 minutes
just to read through it. It says.
Here's a detailed summary of the interview and related
discussions. Harold Malmgren, a former
presidential adviser, revealed that he was informally briefed
on other world technologies by CIA official Richard Bissell.
That's Bissell. Bissell, who had been deeply
involved in secret US aerospace programs at Skunks Works Area 51
in Los Alamos, shared limited information with Malmgren after
resigning as ACIA Deputy Director of Spatial operations.
Malmgren clarified that while he had high level security
clearance for nuclear weapons and missile defense projects, he
was never directly involved in UAP research.
He maintains secrecy out of a personal commitment to Bissell
rather than legal obligation. Malmgren referenced the upcoming
book Imminent by Louis Elizondo, which discusses government
knowledge of UA PS. He suggested that this book
might initiate a wave of further disclosures.
Yeah, not so sure about that. Although he has no connection to
Elizondo or the book's publication, he encouraged
others to read it and reflect on its implications.
He emphasized that he is not a source of confirmation on
government UAP research, but he felt the time had come for
public disclosure on the matter. His daughter, Pippa Malgren,
echoed his sentiments, stating that the cost of ignoring UAP
evidence could be far greater than investigating it.
She called for serious scientific inquiry, arguing that
dismissing the topic outright is illogical given its potential
impact on our understanding of reality.
She also criticized those who refused to explore the subject
and highlighted a bipartisan political momentum behind new
UAP related legislation. Citing Richard Feynman, she
stressed the importance of maintaining curiosity and
questioning established narratives.
Well, questioning established narratives, which narrative is
are they questioning? That's that's what I'm thinking.
Their discussion reflects a broader shift in attitude toward
UA PS urging the public and policy makers to engage with the
issue rather than dismiss it. Yeah, at some limited level, I
would agree that that's true. It's really a strange story I
have to tell you. We'll look at a couple articles
here. This little short article here
is from Bro Bible dot com Former senior Presidential advisor
claims CIA briefed him on other world technologies.
This is dated August 29th, 2024. So just a little while ago.
Yet another former government official has come forward with
claims about the United States having obtained technology not
of this Earth in 2020. Eric W Davis This is a name
that's around a lot in the UFO community.
An astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a
consultant for the Pentagram UFO program said he examined the
materials that quote, we couldn't make it ourselves and
off world vehicles that were not made by humans.
In 2023, David Gresh, a veteran of the National Geospatial
Intelligence Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office
claimed the United States had retrieved and studied UFOs of
non human origin. And I tell you, it's a pretty
big claim. And now in 2024, Harold
Malmgren, of course, this has been a little while, He's passed
away now who served as senior advisor under Presidents John F
Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson. Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford
claims the CIA briefed him on what he calls other world
technologies. That sentence is a little
misleading as we just found out this was his friend, this
Bissell guy or whatever that briefed him.
It wasn't an actual official briefing from the CIA.
From what I can see 60 plus years ago I was provided highest
level classification that lead DoD work on nuclear weapons and
anti missile defense. Malcolm wrote on Twitter this
week and formally briefed on other world technologies catch
that and formally briefed by CI as Richard Bissell who had been
in charge of Skunk works area 51 lost animals but sworn to
secrecy. He says sworn to secrecy and
that's another kind of misleading statement here from
this article is sworn to secrecy.
Remember, he told us it was to his friend, not on an not in
official capacity. And I suspect that's how they're
moving this information around. They're not going through normal
dedicated, documented channels. They're just doing this stuff in
a backhanded way. Those comments came in the wake
of comments Harold Melgrim made earlier this year claiming to
have been told by rocket scientist Lawrence Preston
Geiss, the grandfather of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, about his
alleged work on reverse engineering objects during a
conversation at Los Alamos in 1963.
Do you see how these, it's just like we have these families
coming together. It's like we're controlled by an
oligarchy. That's what I see.
Malgren's daughter, former White House advisor Doctor Pippa
Malgren, also has been discussing UFOs, including a
2023 blog post and a recent post on X in which she addresses a
new book published by Louis Elizondo, a lead UFO
investigator in the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program. A a tip.
Now, of course, we've talked about this at nauseam on the
program. Lots of questions about that
whole situation. It says, here's a question.
What is the cost of asking what if this is true versus the cost
of assuming it is not true and being wrong?
She wrote. Real, serious scientists will
want to bring all our new tech to bear on this to prove things
one way or another. We have to question those who
insist on not investigating all this.
What is there to lose? Nothing.
What is there to gain? Possibly a transformation of our
understanding of reality? Seems odd that so many go to
such lengths to dismiss something that is potentially so
consequential before we can even consider it.
Well, it doesn't seem odd to me if you consider the fact that
they've already got this stuff in their position and they're
wanting to pretend like it doesn't exist because the last
thing they want is for you to be aware of it because then you
might get a part of it. Now, I'll just finish up here
with the summary of this last article from substack.com
written by Nicholas Roman, dated December 29th, 2024.
Anatomy of a UFO Hoax. And then it says lies, damned
lies and declassified reports. I found this article over at
Substack called Anatomy of a Hoax, Lies, damn lies and
declassified reports, like I said, written by Nicholas Roman.
And the date that was December 29th, 2024.
It's really a long article. It goes through point by point.
And if you're interested in this sort of thing, it's, it's worth
the read. I didn't want to take the time
to go through everything in the article, so I tried to run it
through ChatGPT and it said, oh, no, this is way too long.
So I went ahead and run it through Grok.
And you know what Grok came through for me.
It it created a kind of a detailed summary here, it says
Nicholas Roman begins by noting his initial skepticism toward a
conspiracy article claiming that a 1962 US nuclear test,
Operation Dominick's Bluegill 3 Prime, shot down a UFO, leading
to a cover up tied to the assassination of JFK and Marilyn
Monroe. While such claims are common,
this one gained traction due to endorsement from Harold Malgram,
a respected former U.S. economic policy advisor, and trigged by
Malgram's credibility. Roman investigates aiming to
either uncover UFO evidence or debunk the hoax.
The article in question, authored by Giov Krushchenk, a
known UFO theorist, asserts that during the Bluegill 3 Prime
Test, a high altitude nuclear detonation cameras captured a
UFO's descent, military ships recovered its debris, and
subsequent secrecy led to the alleged assassinations.
Roman focuses on three foundational claims to evaluate
the piece #1 footage evidence. Khrushank argues that edited
footage from the test shows an object falling from the fireball
tracked by a camera operator, suggesting an anonymous event.
Roman examines Eclipse, Kettle One, and Kettle 2, noting a
white triangle censoring part of Kettle 2, while Kettle one shows
an object falling. Khrushank poses inconsistent
censorship reflects like a cover up, but Roman finds this
unsupported, lacking evidence of different labs or classification
protocols. Moreover, Kushnanks claim that
the operator shifted focus within microseconds is
implausible. Human reaction times minimum 13
milliseconds, couldn't respond to events captured by high speed
cameras. Roman suggests the camera drift
is typical. Turbulence, not a deliberate
act, is seen in other test footage #2 he says.
USNS point barrel involvement. Krushnank claims the ship
recovered UFO debris, citing missing deck logs and high
radiation exposure among its crew.
Roman finds no evidence of anomalous debris in cited logs,
only routine mentions of point barrel.
The radiation claim sourced from a 1983 operation at Dominant
Report is undermined by the report itself, which attributes
high readings to defective film badges damaged by environmental
factors such as moisture and heat, not radiation.
This issue affected multiple ships, not just Point Barrel and
Krushnenka. Amidst this context, selectively
presenting data to imply conspiracy #3 scientific
backing, Krushnank invokes experts like Conrad Longmire and
Charles Grace to argue that Emps from the blast could disable a
UFOs seamless design. Roman finds that this baseless.
Longmire's work on Emps doesn't mention UFOs, and Grace's
textbook on nuclear effects discusses EMP shielding
generally, not UFO vulnerabilities.
Krushnank's use of technical terms, EG spillation SGEMP, is a
superficial designed to impress rather than inform,
misrepresenting scientific findings.
With these claims debunked, Roman dismisses the broader
narrative, including the JFK Monroe assassination lake, as
unfounded. He then explores why Mongram
endorsed it, noting his history of unverified UFO claims.
AG, Alien tech briefings from CIA sources.
Roman attributes this to cognitive biases like the Halo
effect, where Malgren's present prestige lends undue credibility
and suggests even experts can fall for motivated reasoning or
lapses in diligence. Roman concludes by dissecting
Crucianks tactics, blinding trivial truths with
extraordinary lies, obscuring weak evidence with dense
documents, and mimicking scientific rigor without
substance. He advises readers to verify
sources, scrutinize evidence, and demand counter arguments to
avoid such hoaxes. While acknowledging the allure
of UFOs, Roman argues the evidence here is flimsy, urging
a focus on credible science, EG Dyson Sphere research over
conspiracies. The article blends meticulous
fact checking with a critique of conspiracy culture, emphasizing
intellectual rigor over sensationalism.
Well, that's quite a quite a detailed summary there that Grok
did for me. I'm, I'm impressed actually.
Yeah. This whole idea that the US Navy
or the Air Force or the Army or whoever has been shooting these
things down and not telling us about it, that's kind of the
heart of this current UFO disclosure movement where we're
involving former intelligence, former defense officials coming
out and telling us, hey, we're still sworn to secrecy, but
we're just wanted to let you know that the government has
been capturing these things behind your back and they're all
hidden away somewhere in a big factory.
I don't know. I had the feeling that that
could be true, but it seems odd these folks would be allowed to
even talk about it. I thought this was kind of a
cool article. It just kind of came up on the
radar, I guess. It's been around for a little
while, but this most recent article brought it to my
attention. It's just another one of these
things where you have to make up your own mind until next time.
This is UFO warning over and out.