1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,200 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,600 In this episode we're talking about Navy shot down UFO orb. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,520 That's correct, Navy shot down UFO orb. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,880 At least that is the accusation coming out from a 1962 missile 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,680 test. Now, this story has been 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,040 bubbling up from the surface for, I don't know, probably six 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,480 months or so at least. This article came out today 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,840 though on dailymail.co dot Uki think it's worth covering 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,320 because not only is it a really cool story, but it does involve 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,560 some of the made members of the UFO mafia. 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 And it's just curious to me to see how these guys always seem 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,880 to be entangled with each other. Not sure if this is accurate, 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,040 what they're talking about, this thing being shot down. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,720 We're going to look at both sides of the issue. 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Or if this is just another limited hangout for the deep 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,040 state. It always seems like the actors 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,800 involved are people that are career intelligence or career 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,440 military. Now like I said, article comes 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,200 from dailymail.co.uk written by Josh Boswell. 20 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:11,400 The date on this is March 24th, 24th, 2025. 21 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:17,080 Says an orb UFO was shot out of the sky and retrieved by the US 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Navy during a 1962 missile test. A former top aide to to four US 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,360 presidents revealed Harold Mount Malmgren. 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:32,120 That's spelled MALMGREN was a senior advisor to John F 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Kennedy, Lyndon B Johnson, Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,520 The retired government official said he was briefed by top CIA 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,800 and Atomic Energy Commission officials on a videotape missile 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,760 test that took place during the Cuban Missile Crisis of October 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,960 1962, during which the shocking UFO incident occurred. 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Malmgren's daughter, economist Dr. PIPA Malmgren, herself a 31 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,840 former special assistant to President George W Bush, 32 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,840 revealed the details of her father's story on a blog last 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,600 week after the veteran presidential aide passed away on 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:19,240 February 13th, aged 89. So do you see what's going on 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,400 here? It's almost like these high 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,040 level government officials, it's generational man. 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,840 She said before his death, her father had recently decided to 38 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,560 tell his full story for the sake of history. 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,680 So this guy's passed away. We really can't go back and 40 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,960 cross examine him. Harold described a video of a 41 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,600 missile test launch from October 25th, 1962 in which a mysterious 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,760 white orb can be seen flying in circles around the rocket as it 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,760 speeds through the air. The missile was equipped with 44 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,520 what Pippa describes as an X-ray machine in the nose cone, 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,400 designed to use radiation to disable an incoming nuclear 46 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,240 missile. But the missiles intense X-ray 47 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,360 burst appeared to disable the UFO too, as long as says the 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,320 X-rays knocked it out of the sky. 49 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,760 The US Navy retrieved the orb out of the ocean, Pippa wrote in 50 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,720 her March 18th blog post recounting her father's story. 51 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,320 And it wasn't the first time an orb had been spotted chasing AUS 52 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,720 missile, according to Harold. We called them Tagalongs, Harold 53 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,640 said, according to the blog post. 54 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:31,280 We knocked the tagalong out of the sky. 55 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:35,720 Pippa said her father was briefed on the incident because 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,120 he was in charge of the budget for the missile testing program 57 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,200 as a top White House and Pentagon official. 58 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Before my father recently passed away, he went on record 59 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,280 explaining what he knew about all this because he felt it was 60 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,200 important for the sake of history, she said. 61 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Harold, who was active on social media site X even in his final 62 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,600 months, alluded to the incident in a tweet last August. 63 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,040 We'll go over that here in a minute. 60 plus years ago I was 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,480 provided highest level classifications to lead DoD 65 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Department of Defense work on nuclear weapons and anti missile 66 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,760 defense. He wrote and formally briefed on 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,880 other world technologies by CI as Richard Bissell who had been 68 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,840 in charge of Skunk Works, Area 51, Los Alamos, etcetera, but 69 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:27,400 sworn to secrecy. Then it says Bissell briefed me 70 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,400 off the record after his resignation as CIA Deputy 71 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Director OPS. He felt I needed a heads up in 72 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,160 case the subject ever came up in my meetings with Presidents or 73 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,040 others. I swore secrecy to him. 74 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Not under any law. This sounds a little sketchy, I 75 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,560 have to say. Sharing his top secret 76 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,560 information, like on a personal basis. 77 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,640 But it is though on some level very believable to me. 78 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Pippa wrote on her blog that her father told her he was also 79 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,880 briefed in 1963 by then regional chief of the Atomic Energy 80 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,560 Commission, Lawrence Preston Geiss. 81 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,240 Dice also happens to be the grandfather of Jeff Bezos, 82 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,080 billionaire founder of Amazon and space travel company Blue 83 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,680 Origin. But like I said, you hear these 84 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,000 stories about, oh, they just brought themselves up from the 85 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,440 from the bootstraps to become multi billionaires. 86 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Maybe, maybe some of these guys though, tapped into some 87 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,640 generational wealth. I don't know. 88 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,840 It was at that meeting, Mel Grimm claimed, that he got his 89 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:36,280 hands on a piece of the alleged otherworldly craft and had an 90 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:41,240 out of this world experience. He flew out to Albuquerque to be 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,520 briefed. Peeper Pepper wrote, adding dice 92 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,280 apparently received materials from the crashed craft. 93 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,440 He kept them on his desk, handed them to my dad, and then asked 94 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,200 him to describe how he felt. Dad said. 95 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,400 A voice began talking to him inside his head. 96 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,120 That's all guys wanted to know. That sounds strange to me, man. 97 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,240 So you're keeping the stuff on your desk. 98 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,880 If that's true, how disturbing is that? 99 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,640 You have this government employee who has come into 100 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,480 possession of a, of some meta material from a UFO, and instead 101 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,760 of having this stuff kept securely locked away somewhere, 102 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,200 they've got sitting on their desk and the stuff has some kind 103 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,960 of property. If you can speak telepathically 104 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,040 to whatever this, whatever, this voice is interdimensional, I 105 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,280 don't know, alien, demonic, you pick it. 106 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:37,360 I don't know, says Dad never recalled or would not say what 107 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,600 that voice said. Apparently he said some people 108 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,080 interact with the materials and others don't. 109 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,280 This led to briefings at Los Alamos and an invitation from 110 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,440 Richard Bissell. So maybe they're just trying to 111 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,520 find the people that are able to telepathically communicate with 112 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,600 these things. Then it has some weather 113 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,600 observation logs here. It looks like Harold told his 114 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,840 daughter that. Then President John F Kennedy 115 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:04,160 and Vice President Johnson received their own raft of 116 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,560 highly classified briefings about the incident on December 117 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,880 7th, 1962 at Strategic Air Command Headquarters and off at 118 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,560 Air Force Base in Nebraska, the Los Alamos National Laboratory 119 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,360 in New Mexico, Kirtland Air Force Base and Sandia National 120 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Laboratories in Albuquerque. She claims it was this incident 121 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,640 that spurred JFK's historic de escalation talks with Soviet 122 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Union leader Nikita Khrushchev. The reason JFK reached out to 123 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,680 Khrushchev and commenced arms limitation talks was because he 124 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,360 was made aware by America's top government scientist that Uaps 125 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,560 identified anomalous phenomena were appearing and even being 126 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,920 brought down in anti ballistic missile tests, Peeper wrote. 127 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Specifically, JFK was briefed in three locations on December 7th, 128 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:59,960 1962, including Los Alamos, about a missile test operation, 129 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Bluegill Triple Prime, and became aware that this brought a 130 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,760 UAP down and confirmed that we are not alone in this universe. 131 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,800 My father confirmed to me and others that we learned something 132 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,800 from the UFO crash, the former White House advisor wrote. 133 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,560 He said we learned that these strange craft were susceptible 134 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,040 to X-rays. That was another reason we were 135 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,080 testing X-rays at high latitudes. 136 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,520 The extraordinary story is partially backed up by 137 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,120 government records dugout by former Australian intelligence 138 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:37,480 official turned UFO researcher Jeff Khrushchenk, who published 139 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,000 last December on UFO news site Liberation Times. 140 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Khrushchenk noted a Cold War experimental warhead, the XW 141 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,200 50X1, which was built to emit high energy X-rays designed to 142 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,000 disabled missile re entry vehicles by causing intense heat 143 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,000 and internal damage, which fits Harold's description. 144 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Wow, that's really something else. 145 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,520 It goes on here it says. Khrushchev also pointed to now 146 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,720 declassified videos showing October 26th, 1962 high altitude 147 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,160 test explosion of a nuclear bomb over the Pacific Ocean near 148 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Johnston Island. An apparent object can be seen 149 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,320 tumbling out of the nuclear fireball in the footage. 150 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,360 He wrote that a later version of the video was redacted by 151 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,840 officials at Los Alamos Lab, with a white triangle obscuring 152 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,880 the region where the falling object appeared. 153 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,320 And it's not something, yeah, I think that might have been the 154 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,480 one I was thinking of. Two weeks earlier, on September 155 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,720 19th, 1962, another UFO was filmed travelling at 18 times 156 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,320 the speed of sound following an AFCO Mark 4 missile for 90 157 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,040 seconds as it descended through the sky after a launch from the 158 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Atlantic Missile Range off the coast of Cape Canaveral, FL. 159 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,360 An index card with the video records it as a UFO sighting 160 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,160 shows missile in flight then breaking U camera holding on 161 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,480 nose cone with smaller object in flight above and behind nose 162 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,160 cone on parallel path. The card says following the 163 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,520 October 1962 bluegill test, Navy ships were sent to retrieve 164 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,080 debris. Chris Shank reported that deck 165 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,120 logs preserved by the National Archives say some of the debris 166 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,560 was anomalous. Logs from 2 accompanying ships, 167 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,000 the USS Engage and the USS John S McCain, recorded picking up an 168 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,560 experimental pod as well as a black ball in the water A and a 169 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,960 green tube. The logs said the tube had a 170 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,120 radiation measurement of 60 Miller Rongen. 171 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:54,080 That's MAILI Miller ROENTGN for all youth physicists out there 172 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,320 from a distance of 1 foot, which is a safe but elevated level, 173 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,640 suggesting it had been near a nuclear event sounds very 174 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,440 concerning. The crew of 1 ship USS Point 175 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,880 Barrel reported unusually high radiation exposure levels after 176 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,520 the recovery mission according to logs from other ships. 177 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,080 But Point Barrels own logs are mysteriously missing from the 178 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,720 archives through a Shank road. Now how convenient. 179 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,120 I guess if it isn't fit the narrative, it's just gone. 180 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,360 So that's kind of the one side of it. 181 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,520 Very strange stuff. There was a a pretty detailed 182 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,680 copy of his of this Harold Malmgren's post on Twitter's 183 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:40,080 interview that was done. I found it over at Joe Murguia. 184 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,160 It's at the UFO Joe at the UFO Joe. 185 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,240 You can go find it there. It's quite lengthy. 186 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,600 So what I did in the interest of time was I just asked chat GP to 187 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,800 go ahead and write up a short summary of that interview. 188 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Save us a little time because it'd take probably 20 minutes 189 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,320 just to read through it. It says. 190 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Here's a detailed summary of the interview and related 191 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,960 discussions. Harold Malmgren, a former 192 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,640 presidential adviser, revealed that he was informally briefed 193 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,680 on other world technologies by CIA official Richard Bissell. 194 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,720 That's Bissell. Bissell, who had been deeply 195 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:21,600 involved in secret US aerospace programs at Skunks Works Area 51 196 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,760 in Los Alamos, shared limited information with Malmgren after 197 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,360 resigning as ACIA Deputy Director of Spatial operations. 198 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,720 Malmgren clarified that while he had high level security 199 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,600 clearance for nuclear weapons and missile defense projects, he 200 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,920 was never directly involved in UAP research. 201 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,560 He maintains secrecy out of a personal commitment to Bissell 202 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,920 rather than legal obligation. Malmgren referenced the upcoming 203 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,600 book Imminent by Louis Elizondo, which discusses government 204 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,360 knowledge of UA PS. He suggested that this book 205 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,720 might initiate a wave of further disclosures. 206 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Yeah, not so sure about that. Although he has no connection to 207 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Elizondo or the book's publication, he encouraged 208 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,280 others to read it and reflect on its implications. 209 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,880 He emphasized that he is not a source of confirmation on 210 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,520 government UAP research, but he felt the time had come for 211 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,040 public disclosure on the matter. His daughter, Pippa Malgren, 212 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,440 echoed his sentiments, stating that the cost of ignoring UAP 213 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,680 evidence could be far greater than investigating it. 214 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,840 She called for serious scientific inquiry, arguing that 215 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,000 dismissing the topic outright is illogical given its potential 216 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,080 impact on our understanding of reality. 217 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,320 She also criticized those who refused to explore the subject 218 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:50,200 and highlighted a bipartisan political momentum behind new 219 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,760 UAP related legislation. Citing Richard Feynman, she 220 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,600 stressed the importance of maintaining curiosity and 221 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,200 questioning established narratives. 222 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Well, questioning established narratives, which narrative is 223 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,320 are they questioning? That's that's what I'm thinking. 224 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,000 Their discussion reflects a broader shift in attitude toward 225 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,920 UA PS urging the public and policy makers to engage with the 226 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,640 issue rather than dismiss it. Yeah, at some limited level, I 227 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,880 would agree that that's true. It's really a strange story I 228 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,280 have to tell you. We'll look at a couple articles 229 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,600 here. This little short article here 230 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,000 is from Bro Bible dot com Former senior Presidential advisor 231 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,480 claims CIA briefed him on other world technologies. 232 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,360 This is dated August 29th, 2024. So just a little while ago. 233 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,640 Yet another former government official has come forward with 234 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,200 claims about the United States having obtained technology not 235 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,880 of this Earth in 2020. Eric W Davis This is a name 236 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,360 that's around a lot in the UFO community. 237 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,120 An astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a 238 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,280 consultant for the Pentagram UFO program said he examined the 239 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,680 materials that quote, we couldn't make it ourselves and 240 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,600 off world vehicles that were not made by humans. 241 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,920 In 2023, David Gresh, a veteran of the National Geospatial 242 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,480 Intelligence Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office 243 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,360 claimed the United States had retrieved and studied UFOs of 244 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,800 non human origin. And I tell you, it's a pretty 245 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,240 big claim. And now in 2024, Harold 246 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Malmgren, of course, this has been a little while, He's passed 247 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,520 away now who served as senior advisor under Presidents John F 248 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson. Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford 249 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,240 claims the CIA briefed him on what he calls other world 250 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,200 technologies. That sentence is a little 251 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,120 misleading as we just found out this was his friend, this 252 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Bissell guy or whatever that briefed him. 253 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,360 It wasn't an actual official briefing from the CIA. 254 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,840 From what I can see 60 plus years ago I was provided highest 255 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,280 level classification that lead DoD work on nuclear weapons and 256 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,880 anti missile defense. Malcolm wrote on Twitter this 257 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,440 week and formally briefed on other world technologies catch 258 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,640 that and formally briefed by CI as Richard Bissell who had been 259 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,680 in charge of Skunk works area 51 lost animals but sworn to 260 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,640 secrecy. He says sworn to secrecy and 261 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,040 that's another kind of misleading statement here from 262 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,160 this article is sworn to secrecy. 263 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Remember, he told us it was to his friend, not on an not in 264 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,080 official capacity. And I suspect that's how they're 265 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,960 moving this information around. They're not going through normal 266 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,120 dedicated, documented channels. They're just doing this stuff in 267 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,040 a backhanded way. Those comments came in the wake 268 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,080 of comments Harold Melgrim made earlier this year claiming to 269 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,880 have been told by rocket scientist Lawrence Preston 270 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Geiss, the grandfather of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, about his 271 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,120 alleged work on reverse engineering objects during a 272 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,320 conversation at Los Alamos in 1963. 273 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Do you see how these, it's just like we have these families 274 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,280 coming together. It's like we're controlled by an 275 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,880 oligarchy. That's what I see. 276 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Malgren's daughter, former White House advisor Doctor Pippa 277 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,400 Malgren, also has been discussing UFOs, including a 278 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,200 2023 blog post and a recent post on X in which she addresses a 279 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,319 new book published by Louis Elizondo, a lead UFO 280 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:17,560 investigator in the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat 281 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,599 Identification Program. A a tip. 282 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,319 Now, of course, we've talked about this at nauseam on the 283 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:24,440 program. Lots of questions about that 284 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,200 whole situation. It says, here's a question. 285 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,840 What is the cost of asking what if this is true versus the cost 286 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,040 of assuming it is not true and being wrong? 287 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,880 She wrote. Real, serious scientists will 288 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,280 want to bring all our new tech to bear on this to prove things 289 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,160 one way or another. We have to question those who 290 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,920 insist on not investigating all this. 291 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,080 What is there to lose? Nothing. 292 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,200 What is there to gain? Possibly a transformation of our 293 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,800 understanding of reality? Seems odd that so many go to 294 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,000 such lengths to dismiss something that is potentially so 295 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,520 consequential before we can even consider it. 296 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Well, it doesn't seem odd to me if you consider the fact that 297 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,880 they've already got this stuff in their position and they're 298 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,240 wanting to pretend like it doesn't exist because the last 299 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,520 thing they want is for you to be aware of it because then you 300 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,920 might get a part of it. Now, I'll just finish up here 301 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,080 with the summary of this last article from substack.com 302 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,840 written by Nicholas Roman, dated December 29th, 2024. 303 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,960 Anatomy of a UFO Hoax. And then it says lies, damned 304 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,880 lies and declassified reports. I found this article over at 305 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,000 Substack called Anatomy of a Hoax, Lies, damn lies and 306 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,920 declassified reports, like I said, written by Nicholas Roman. 307 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,840 And the date that was December 29th, 2024. 308 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,120 It's really a long article. It goes through point by point. 309 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,440 And if you're interested in this sort of thing, it's, it's worth 310 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,200 the read. I didn't want to take the time 311 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,400 to go through everything in the article, so I tried to run it 312 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,400 through ChatGPT and it said, oh, no, this is way too long. 313 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,280 So I went ahead and run it through Grok. 314 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,240 And you know what Grok came through for me. 315 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,400 It it created a kind of a detailed summary here, it says 316 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Nicholas Roman begins by noting his initial skepticism toward a 317 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,760 conspiracy article claiming that a 1962 US nuclear test, 318 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Operation Dominick's Bluegill 3 Prime, shot down a UFO, leading 319 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,360 to a cover up tied to the assassination of JFK and Marilyn 320 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:26,800 Monroe. While such claims are common, 321 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:31,560 this one gained traction due to endorsement from Harold Malgram, 322 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,720 a respected former U.S. economic policy advisor, and trigged by 323 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,280 Malgram's credibility. Roman investigates aiming to 324 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,920 either uncover UFO evidence or debunk the hoax. 325 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,240 The article in question, authored by Giov Krushchenk, a 326 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,720 known UFO theorist, asserts that during the Bluegill 3 Prime 327 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,600 Test, a high altitude nuclear detonation cameras captured a 328 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,040 UFO's descent, military ships recovered its debris, and 329 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,960 subsequent secrecy led to the alleged assassinations. 330 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Roman focuses on three foundational claims to evaluate 331 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,400 the piece #1 footage evidence. Khrushank argues that edited 332 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,840 footage from the test shows an object falling from the fireball 333 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,240 tracked by a camera operator, suggesting an anonymous event. 334 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,200 Roman examines Eclipse, Kettle One, and Kettle 2, noting a 335 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,240 white triangle censoring part of Kettle 2, while Kettle one shows 336 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,080 an object falling. Khrushank poses inconsistent 337 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:37,760 censorship reflects like a cover up, but Roman finds this 338 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,640 unsupported, lacking evidence of different labs or classification 339 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,960 protocols. Moreover, Kushnanks claim that 340 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,600 the operator shifted focus within microseconds is 341 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,440 implausible. Human reaction times minimum 13 342 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,920 milliseconds, couldn't respond to events captured by high speed 343 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,960 cameras. Roman suggests the camera drift 344 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,640 is typical. Turbulence, not a deliberate 345 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,320 act, is seen in other test footage #2 he says. 346 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,520 USNS point barrel involvement. Krushnank claims the ship 347 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,480 recovered UFO debris, citing missing deck logs and high 348 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,680 radiation exposure among its crew. 349 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,720 Roman finds no evidence of anomalous debris in cited logs, 350 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:21,880 only routine mentions of point barrel. 351 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,160 The radiation claim sourced from a 1983 operation at Dominant 352 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,000 Report is undermined by the report itself, which attributes 353 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,680 high readings to defective film badges damaged by environmental 354 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,560 factors such as moisture and heat, not radiation. 355 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,400 This issue affected multiple ships, not just Point Barrel and 356 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Krushnenka. Amidst this context, selectively 357 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,120 presenting data to imply conspiracy #3 scientific 358 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:51,360 backing, Krushnank invokes experts like Conrad Longmire and 359 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:56,200 Charles Grace to argue that Emps from the blast could disable a 360 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,160 UFOs seamless design. Roman finds that this baseless. 361 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,360 Longmire's work on Emps doesn't mention UFOs, and Grace's 362 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:07,520 textbook on nuclear effects discusses EMP shielding 363 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,040 generally, not UFO vulnerabilities. 364 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:16,880 Krushnank's use of technical terms, EG spillation SGEMP, is a 365 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,880 superficial designed to impress rather than inform, 366 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,160 misrepresenting scientific findings. 367 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,320 With these claims debunked, Roman dismisses the broader 368 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,960 narrative, including the JFK Monroe assassination lake, as 369 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,920 unfounded. He then explores why Mongram 370 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,240 endorsed it, noting his history of unverified UFO claims. 371 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,680 AG, Alien tech briefings from CIA sources. 372 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,640 Roman attributes this to cognitive biases like the Halo 373 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,680 effect, where Malgren's present prestige lends undue credibility 374 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,520 and suggests even experts can fall for motivated reasoning or 375 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,240 lapses in diligence. Roman concludes by dissecting 376 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,400 Crucianks tactics, blinding trivial truths with 377 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,760 extraordinary lies, obscuring weak evidence with dense 378 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,440 documents, and mimicking scientific rigor without 379 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,160 substance. He advises readers to verify 380 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,640 sources, scrutinize evidence, and demand counter arguments to 381 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,400 avoid such hoaxes. While acknowledging the allure 382 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,680 of UFOs, Roman argues the evidence here is flimsy, urging 383 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,080 a focus on credible science, EG Dyson Sphere research over 384 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,840 conspiracies. The article blends meticulous 385 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,040 fact checking with a critique of conspiracy culture, emphasizing 386 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,840 intellectual rigor over sensationalism. 387 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,680 Well, that's quite a quite a detailed summary there that Grok 388 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,680 did for me. I'm, I'm impressed actually. 389 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,600 Yeah. This whole idea that the US Navy 390 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,480 or the Air Force or the Army or whoever has been shooting these 391 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,960 things down and not telling us about it, that's kind of the 392 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,680 heart of this current UFO disclosure movement where we're 393 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,800 involving former intelligence, former defense officials coming 394 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,240 out and telling us, hey, we're still sworn to secrecy, but 395 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,880 we're just wanted to let you know that the government has 396 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,440 been capturing these things behind your back and they're all 397 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,680 hidden away somewhere in a big factory. 398 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,040 I don't know. I had the feeling that that 399 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,400 could be true, but it seems odd these folks would be allowed to 400 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600 even talk about it. I thought this was kind of a 401 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,160 cool article. It just kind of came up on the 402 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,720 radar, I guess. It's been around for a little 403 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,160 while, but this most recent article brought it to my 404 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,160 attention. It's just another one of these 405 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,160 things where you have to make up your own mind until next time. 406 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,400 This is UFO warning over and out.