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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO warning today's topic 

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Captain horns and counter and 
this comes from Anchorage 

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press.com it's titled Captain 
horns encounter Alaska Navy 

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pilot shares his story of being 
chased by a UFO. 

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Now, the actual counter happened
in Indiana but they're 

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interviewing the This fellow up 
in Eagle River. 

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Alaska, which is actually like a
community right in and around 

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Anchorage, their articles by a 
Lawrence wyc. 

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And I think it just actually 
came out on February 22nd 2020. 

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Starts off it says Captain less 
horn. 

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United States Navy, retired 
lives in Eagle River here. 

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He tells his story about a 
fateful flight and 1966. 

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He and his radio man were chased
by a UFO. 

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Captain horn has extensive 
background in flight and 

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Airborne weapons system. 
Testing 26 years of service 5600

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hours flying time and 34 
aircraft type, and models, and 

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is a member of the Society of 
experimental test pilots. 

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He holds Advanced degrees in 
physics, nuclear engineering and

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energy resources. 
Wow. 

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Sounds like a really 
accomplished man with a 

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fantastic resume and a very 
impressive education. 

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Definitely what we would 
consider a reliable witness at 

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least in the face of it starts 
off. 

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He says, we were flying a 
version of the A4 that was used 

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for a carrier training. 
There was room for two pilots, 

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you kind of team up with the guy
you worked with and you take 

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turns on the radio or driving 
the airplane. 

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We flew to Bunker here, bunker 
Bunker, Hill Air Force Base in 

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Missouri. 
Now, I want to stop for a 

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second. 
I believe that's a typo. 

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I believe it's supposed to be 
Indiana because Bunker Hill, 

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which became Grissom Air Force 
Base, is what they're talking 

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about here. 
So, I do believe that's a typo. 

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I do believe. 
We're talking about is the 

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incident happened in Indiana. 
It goes on and says, this was a 

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late afternoon. 
Evening flight do try to get 

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some nighttime we departed write
about The set. 

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And I was driving as we launched
out of there. 

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We started our usual climb so 
climbing, out of Bunker Hill. 

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We were passing, 16,000 feet for
flight. 

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Level 4, 70. 
Usually, when you're in the more

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powerful military aircraft, you 
can take the higher structure 

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because the 30s are usually 
crowded with airliners. 

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But their butt up there. 
We know we probably only had a 

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military pilot to deal with. 
We were passing through the 20s 

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going into the 40s and As we 
started out, we were talking to 

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departure control and he headed 
this off to Indianapolis Center 

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and that was about a half hour 
after Sunset and so Indianapolis

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called up and they said, we have
Delta departing Chicago, Midway.

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Now, remember your some Air 
Force Base in up or when they're

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talking about back, then, as I 
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but it is about halfway between 
Indianapolis and South Bend. 

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If you look on the map there, 
right? 

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In the north central, part of 
the state of Indiana, and it's 

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due south of Lake Michigan. 
So you can imagine they could be

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in the area of the Great Lakes, 
Naval Academy and all that, he 

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says. 
And so, any Annapolis called up 

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and they said, we have Delta 
departing Chicago, Midway we're 

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passing through, 16,000 on Route
330, passing your 9 o'clock 

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position, you will clear and I 
look over and say, tell your 

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traffic. 
We continue to climb. 

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Meanwhile, I picked up a blue 
dot of light. 

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I expected him to call that 
traffic sooner or later because 

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it's kind of crowded in the 
Indianapolis Chicago axis. 

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And finally, this light was 
getting a little luck was 

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getting a little whiter 
brighter. 

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So I said, do you have my 
traffic? 

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He's at my 10:00 passing left 
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And I wait, one minute silence 
and he says, - I said, well 

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traffic in sight, He's at my 
9:00 passing to MI6 and another 

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voice came up. 
Probably a supervisor in said, 

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triple five, the plant 
identification number, say 

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you've had contact and I said, 
well, he's now in my 10 o'clock 

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position and level appears to be
closing distance unknown. 

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So we see from this conversation
that the pilot of that of the 

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Navy airplane has spotted this. 
And I object he's describing 

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where it's at to air traffic 
control and they're basically 

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telling him there's no airplane 
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So at this point, we know that 
it is a, he spotted a UFO and we

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also know that the air traffic 
control supervisor is involved, 

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which leads us to believe, 
possibly, that the ground 

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control had already spotted the 
UFO. 

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He says I didn't have it. 
I flew at a care. 

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I flew an attack airplane. 
We didn't have in Flight Radar. 

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We had radar to ground, he said 
- traffic but he kept asking me 

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and I kept telling him I'm still
flying on my departure heading 

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and this light I didn't know 
what it was came around behind 

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me and then in front of me mind 
you I could couldn't tell you 

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because I had no point of 
reference This is at night black

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night. 
The moon wasn't up yet. 

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That light could have been light
outside of my instrument, right?

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Outside of my canopy or it could
have been 10 miles away. 

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I didn't know where it was, but 
it maintained it look like to me

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kind of a constant distance but 
it came around me. 

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I was taking, I was talking to 
Senator all the time and telling

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them and it came around and it 
took a position on my wing and I

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say all my wing but I didn't 
know how far away it was. 

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And there are set so you can 
just imagine what's going 

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through. 
This guy's mind is flying this 

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Navy aircraft, he has spotted. 
The UFO is called in to ground 

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control and while he's trying to
describe the thing to him, it's 

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circled around him. 
And there it is. 

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Now it's just cruising along 
right next to his wing and he 

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really can't tell how far away 
it is, because he's in Pitch 

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Black. 
He can't judge distance. 

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He can't just judge the size of 
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You can just see it there. 
He says, I kept on talking to 

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the center and was a little 
upset that he wasn't paying that

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he wasn't painting this contact,
seeing it on the other radar 

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because it would hit me, you 
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kind of went along like that for
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The area of light was kind of 
diffuse, I couldn't really tell 

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what it was. 
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there. 
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assuming he means 40,000 feet 
roughly encore. 

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Us and this guy was still there.
That's obviously formatting on 

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me tracking as if in formation 
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this. 
You 40,000 feet fairly high 

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altitude. 
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aircraft are flying in the 30 
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But in the 30,000 feet says he 
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this thing was at fault him. 
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40,000 feet. 
Now, we know it wasn't a little 

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Cessna Piper plane or some, you 
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I'll flyer at this point. 
This is pretty aggressive action

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by this unidentified. 
Flying object, as its trailing, 

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this Navy fighter plane, he goes
on and says, and I asked my back

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Cedar Jim. 
Are you seeing what I'm saying? 

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He says, I sure as hell do then 
I asked him the Fatal question. 

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I said, would you like me to 
check out the contact? 

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Wait, one another West came up. 
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triple supervisor and he said, 
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You have a contact in sight, 
question. 

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I said, Roger still no joy. 
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cruise. 
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flying on instrument readings. 
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Crews means that you can go 
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any altitude and they will 
follow you and they will keep 

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any Buddy from hitting you so 
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do when you are formatting, 
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to have extreme lengths rate of 
closure at night because you 

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don't have the depth of 
perception. 

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I just dropped a wing for a 
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change my direction about 2 
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And we were just sailing along 
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I was trying to keep alive 
chatter up, just to maintain 

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that. 
I had good Communications. 

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So as long as This thing started
coming into focus. 

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It didn't have any navigation 
lights. 

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Normally you can tell from an 
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required to have like a red and 
green light to find. 

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You can see the span of a wing 
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have dim lights in the fuselage 
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but of course you didn't have 
that. 

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If it was an airliner, you would
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would get some perspective from 
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I didn't see anything with in 
any realm of experience to help 

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me identify what This was so we 
can see this pile is going after

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this object. 
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lightning or swamp gas or 
something like that he has. 

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He has identified this object. 
It seems like it must be some 

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sort of solid object this light,
that's chased him down. 

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Now, he seems to be chasing it 
as I got closer. 

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He said it appears to light, it 
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lights. 
Plural are moving in a clockwise

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Direction and there's a dome 
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started to get some perspective 
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this object. 
I never used the words UFO in 

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the Navy. 
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picked up. 
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me. 
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all the UFO stuff. 
I heard about, you know, like I 

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was taken away by an alien who 
gave me a part of The Logical 

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examination. 
I didn't go along with any of 

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that but now this was happening,
this was different. 

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Now something that I didn't 
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it was kind of uncomfortable. 
I knew that this was a large 

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object, and if the guy In a 
plane next to you puts on power 

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takes off power. 
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because you're close to that 
very high velocity stream of 

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theirs. 
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pressure level varies as the 
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velocity. 
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applies a lot of power and maybe
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airplane, actually shakes. 
And you can hear the roar that 

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engine through the space between
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I have gone dry just talking 
about this really. 

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Now, see what he's trying to get
to are is whatever this thing 

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is, is chasing or has been 
chasing him. 

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There should have been some kind
of physical interaction between 

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his airplane. 
In that object. 

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It's just simple physics. 
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something that big through 
space, that's going to leave a 

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wake that he's going to hear the
roar that engine in that vacuum 

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are in that space between him 
and the object, he's behind, but

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he's not hearing any of this. 
What I'm going to tell you now. 

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Opinion about 3 seconds. 
I said it's pulling ahead and 

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then I stopped talking because 
the started accelerating and 

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then climbing. 
And then it went straight up, 

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all those lights, dome lights 
and rotating lights around the 

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craft just disappeared in a 
point and then disappeared in 

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the star field and it was gone. 
And I said, it's pulling away. 

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I stop talking for a long time 
and then, the older guys voice 

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came up and says 55 radio. 
Check, are you still there? 

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And I said, Roger eyes. 
I said the Boogie just pulled 

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out and I have no contact with 
it. 

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FAA never saw this object, then 
it was kind of very 

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businesslike. 
And nobody ever said anything 

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about aliens and we were very 
professional, they knew things 

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that I didn't know and that's 
why I think there was a lot of 

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interest on the ground. 
Basically, I knew there that I 

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was looking at a very non 
Newtonian object when this 

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object was Formatting on me and 
I closed it with what's and I 

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closed with it. 
That's when it started that 

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rapid departure, but I did 
notice that this, that it's 

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motions were not like the way an
aircraft would fly. 

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First of all, when I said 
non-Newtonian, there were no 

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wings suspending or holding this
object up against the forces of 

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gravity at all. 
So it moved in very jerky 

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motions, especially when it 
started accelerating away from 

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me. 
Any structure that I was 

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familiar with would have just 
torn itself to Pieces pulling 

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away like that. 
That's a very good point. 

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You think about man-made 
materials, or man-made aircraft 

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are limited to the number of 
g-forces, they can withstand it,

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just like, he says, if this was 
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way that thing was jerking back 
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itself apart and that puts me in
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Cockpit videos that we've seen 
the Tic Tac videos and such Such

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when these UFOs are just flying 
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moving back and forth in G 
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But, you know, it would just 
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human-built materials. 
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made through some top-secret 
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whatever we From the technology 
that, that we, at least are 

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familiar with these things. 
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physics. 
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itself apart. 
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Maneuvers and we see that with 
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a while back. 
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gentleman is talking about right
here, he goes on, he says 

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Captain horn. 
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couldn't sleep thinking about 
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I got up and went to the dining 
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through some paperwork that was 
about 3:00 in the morning at 

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5:00 in the morning, there was a
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was the Washington Post. 
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to the table and opened it. 
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That headline said many UFO, 
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and 48 Point type. 
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presentations made my captain 
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University of Alaska Anchorage, 
it has been edited for length 

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and Clarity and they've also got
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They're pretty cool. 
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bizarre UFO sighting then 
Captain horn, informs us that 

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The next thing he knows there's 
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Washington Post headline. 
Many UFO sightings reported over

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Indiana. 
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reporting them, so we don't know
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that many other people saw or 
perhaps the ground control that 

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he was talking to was related 
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story. 
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Narrative of these UFO sightings
or maybe they had nothing to do 

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with it. 
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case where he was observing this
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From the are at 40,000 feet plus
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were observing and on the ground
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reports. 
Either way what what it does for

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my mind is and I'm sure for 
Captain horn. 

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Is it just it's simply verifies 
that he saw what you saw I found

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this report especially 
interesting because the source 

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is so good. 
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professional pilot and navy 
pilot and a guy with that. 

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With a strong background in 
science and Newtonian, science, 

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and a guy with a strong 
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In general, just a solid witness
and just to hear him describe 

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how this how this UFO. 
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It appears like a light. 
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It follows him at rails him. 
It's just setting the out there 

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on his wing tip and when he 
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it's almost like a little bit of
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At Mouse. 
And then as he falls this thing 

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up in the atmosphere up to over 
40,000 feet, you can actually 

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make out the crafts, describes 
the lights around the clap. 

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Sounds almost like a classic 
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type citing where you have 
lights on lights on top of the 

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vessel, lights around the sides 
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where it appears to have a very 
physical form at. 

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But then as he tries to approach
it a little bit closer, this 

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thing just does something Crazy 
it just blast into outer space 

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and I've heard this said many 
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these things and they say that 
it disappeared into the star 

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field. 
Now we don't know if that's just

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because it's moving away at such
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undergoing some kind of 
interdimensional transmission, 

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interdimensional transition 
rather where it just disappears 

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into another dimension and we 
just aren't see are seeing it 

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and we are We are interpreting 
that interdimensional shift is 

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some sort of high speed transfer
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any rate, it's really hard to 
wrap your mind around, you 

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really have to ask yourself. 
How does this thing shift from 

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an orb of light to this giant 
Mothership to just simply 

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disappearing into the star 
field. 

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It really makes you make sure 
where that as the pilot said. 

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And these things are not 
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physics, whatever they are. 
And that's a good place to start

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when we try to Define just 
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We know that they don't seem to 
be bound by the laws of physics 

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and our world. 
So are they Something From 

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Another Dimension? 
That's outside our laws of 

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physics or, or are they simply 
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That is so beyond our 
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Ology that they've been able to 
develop a way that they don't 

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have to abide by the laws of 
physics and art world, all great

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questions to ask. 
Until next time, this is UFO 

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warning saying over and out